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2024 Best of Club 520: Derrick Rose on NBA retirement, Bulls MVP season, scoring 50 with T'Wolves

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04 Jan 2025
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To end the year we're throwing back to some of our biggest Club 520 interviews of the season! In this exclusive episode, Jeff Teague and the guys sit down with Derrick Rose for his first appearance since announcing his retirement from the NBA after his career with the Chicago Bulls, New York Knicks, and more. Jeff and D-Rose talk about playing against each other in AAU basketball as kids, becoming the youngest MVP in NBA history, and being teammates on the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Of course right when the idea came up I had to pull up and it with it being so close to Chicago so He's got your cater Well, I listen I usually order somebody so much We're like we gotta do like freakin my game. I'll tell you boy. You might be a cater after this boy You should fall shout the chef ball. Y'all went crazy for this episode, but I gotta say something before we really start but my dog Mike. All right, Mike is our guy behind the scenes, but They know freaky Mike the podcast family no for tomorrow. He told me I'll get excited about too many guests, bro You differ I respect that Niggas rose To freakin my phone to down man, but listen man. We are honored that you are here, man Man, we just got to start with it. Oh fuck my heart felled over. This is crazy, man I want to say man shout out to you and the team and one of the best rollouts I have ever seen For real for it Just the way that you would went through everything and we were jumping with Tig about this We are just like d-roll such a legend. He the only person who could send another new rose and nobody think nothing else of it Ain't nobody have a quick everybody was like what is like now that's the road, but it's a reason for that I'm glad it came with a nose. You don't know I'm a focus in trouble It's crazy because the week before I have bought my wife some roses and put them on there Yeah, so they died or whatever something she sent me a picture of and I'm like damn She didn't buy her own rose. I was like, I would have got it. She was like full region. No Me and my team we decided to like just come up with something different, you know, yeah We did that within like two weeks Randall and Maddie Stand up late Going over shit to the day before I stand up to 3 o'clock in the morning to send out the post making sure you got your eyes Procho tees, but this whole shit was about like just giving back or just flipping everything on his head where normally when you do do something like this it You receive the flowers, but I didn't get here by myself. You know I'm saying I got here with Randall I've been knowing him since sixth grade. I've been known Maddie since for 10 plus years now and my team is the same thing it's sixth grade and and That's something that we built we built in the Empire right now But just doing the right way trying to do it with class and just showing a lot of love and support to all the fans We definitely appreciate that. I know so, you know for you you speak on this, you know, I'm saying class all seven You know saying careers when you notice how real how was that like that moment? You know, I'm gonna see what the other side might be for a second. I see my my retirement was a little different It was kind of because of injury, but I Just knew it was my time was up I wanted to ask you like when did you know you were done playing like what made you feel like? Yeah, I'm gonna hang it up because I feel like to me watching you annoying you. I'm like man He could play forever. I just think you had that ability. I just wonder like what made you want to hang it up bruh, I Man thinking about it for a while bruh, but um What I was just telling you in the room or telling y'all in the room about like Like give me your all to your kid Like my younger kids down mentioning the game at all now and say they don't ask about already going to the game They don't say nothing bruh. So with PJ I have to talk to him a little bit different so before I even talked to everybody we in the room it's me and I'm just talking and Before then I'm thinking the whole time I damn when I'm out of this conversation with him, right? So we talking and he bring up cayenne name and we was just in the room talking about me so I'm like eyes time I'm like come downstairs. He come downstairs. I'm like brother. How you think he got better? He was like he working out with the trainer I'm like who else in the gym? I'm his dad. Like his dad, huh? His dad president. I'm like you think Melon got nothing to do with that. He was like, yeah, but After I kept talking first when I told him of course devastated hurt But after I kept talking to him He was excited because he seemed like man now I get this individual time with my dad and Like my son. He know exactly where he's at right now. Like this moment, he knows exactly where he's at so for me to tell him that and for him to be like sad at first then be Excited and since that day has been nothing but love but I knew right like sometimes since since like last year I'm going through it. You know, you go through the rehabs You're the only one that's going through that shit, bro. Like nobody else your family members. Nobody else is Staff you're what nobody going through with you. So I'm like, man You have the question of like what the fuck am I doing? Like you know, I'm saying like give them all like it's cool, but I want to be able to Elevate to show growth And that's one of the reasons why I came on here because I wanted to like tell my stories and To be able to articulate myself and show people to grow from when I first came to the league to now with me being a grown-ass man Real, bro. Yeah, and like you said like that the influence especially at this age is so impressionable with kids growing up so fast It's supposed to so much and we were talking like in a room But you know I'm saying shout out to pop tea like having y'all in the gym early on having like you said it does make a difference No, it sucks but I wanted to make sure that we clarified that like You decided to retire not that anything else like Situation with Memphis if you want to speak on it Yeah, I mean with even with that I Really didn't want to speak on it But people thought that like they weighed me that's just a process of them trying to I guess do business or figure out The numbers on the back end and which that has nothing to do with me but what I Can't control this what I did. I reached out to Zach prior I reached out to my team reached out to everyone prior and told them reached out to Adidas So that everybody's on the same accord and yeah, just doing good business That's something that I always did throughout my whole career even though I fucked up in the beginning by Having some lessons I had to learn I got through that and I'm all I always been optimistic, bro As long as I got my breath, bro, I'm always gonna get my I know I got a chance and I feel like that way about anybody around me So like um, you know, just paying attention to where I'm at and it's time for sure Listen, we're gonna talk about the career. We got to talk about the first time y'all bet I'll be waiting for this Man, all right this before I wasn't even like getting 30 because I did kill no no But I seen him in eighth grade going to eighth grade he played for a team called Ferrari and It was a team called Houston Hoops we in a gas station and they like you good But it's they just talking to us like he not you nice. I'm all this dude nice, but you ever seen Derrick Rose I'm like who that and your name like your name sound fake like Derrick Rose Like you know here nobody last night Rose like instead of Jalen Rose. I was like he called it like they calling D Rose He called so we go to the game y'all happen to be playing the team from Memphis. It was just a Memphis Magic boom you remember that right That's crazy I remember that I do and I'm like they threw the first play they threw you a lot And you went you ain't dunking you just finger wrote it in I said oh shit Nobody else doing that and they had one do they might have beat y'all they did yeah I'm gonna say they might be sure I had one dude that was cooking. I can't remember the Georgia Georgia Tech Oh, I forgot his name mom Miller. Yeah, mom. There you go. Yes. He had a good game He had a good game, but I'll never forget. I was like, yeah, that nigga different like this nigga killing Yeah, but that nigga moving faster jumping hard to everybody my dad was like we gonna be reading about him He ain't supposed to be on this team he's like me. Oh, you know me he older That we're about Mike bro, and USA we played 16 to 17 USA He my roommate His eye he I had to look at his ID his ID was on the table right he left the room I'm like he's so good, bro. I gotta see if you your real I looked at his ID, bro He was younger Michael Mike I'm not met him, but that's first on my scene. Yeah, but my first time I Played against you so we had a tone sticking you and you had birds then yup. You have Precious she going out 30, bro, and tone our coach. He Toned the guy that was sticking you his dad was the coach and he will not get toned off of him So we like brother this whole game Jeff win them out for a hitting three stuff back tone lateral movement fucked up By the end but then we beat you up. Yeah, we end up beating them, but he had a great game I'm like bro. I got a watch dude, but at all in our class when you ran up against niggas like that you knew like If it challenged you in the way though, right when like I was when we were talking to room about OJ Yes, sir when I see him for the first time brother that he changed my whole perspective of the game and Like made me feel like I wasn't working hard enough and my whole chase for the shit was like chasing him So the old nigga you put that battery in my back for sure. No Juice juice for sure. No, that nigga was different I'll never forget when y'all got to cuz if we went to ABCD that year our last year and you had got hurt But the match, you know, I forget shit. I don't think it's it in the match up with y'all But I'm from Indiana. So I know I see you. I'm like, oh, they don't know this thing about to kill that nigga Yeah, so I'm like rooting. It's like I don't know why I'm rooting for you But I'm rooting for you like kill him if you get hurt. So everybody. Oh, he hurt. He's scary scared Then I see y'all in Vegas. I'm like, yeah And the game scared They was going at it, bro. They was having a game. It was one of the best games I've seen him and Eric against OJ and Bill. That's shit. It's crazy. We chased them, bro We used to go to tournaments looking for him like like really chased OJ my nigga That's that could be a whole chapter of my shit chasing going to tournaments staying the game But it's real it's us too, but our coaches on bullshit, too But we're the same shit. I'm quiet. Of course. I'm in the cut, but I'm on that too. They get like All right, we we wanted that match up, especially since we played him like in seven to eight seven or eight and He he was on the whole another level and I never forgot that like that's my baseline right there like yeah Like I I went back to shot. I stayed in the gym And I and I I think my junior year We was close to playing him But that Tyrek and all them was it was in some tournament and the shit end up like not happening and that Vegas one That we and we had EJ. I'm like, oh, come on I was playing nobody else that was really like a D1 player at that time on my team like that So he had three or four guys, but to like play against my Vegas on that stage and to know that everybody likes The alarms and shit was going that shit was nuts. It was crazy Yeah, and you said we talk about we're talking about all seven EJ him and EJ. Like that's the craziest backward play to me How'd you feel about him enjoying a team? Would you like? I love my Vegas, but Like we played I played on the team of four of the winners, right? Yeah, we won even though we was undersizing all that we won a lot of the games So when we got him they like hell. Yeah, like we got another dude that can go and EJ we needed that because I was scoring my brother in high school. I play more organized shit I was playing the three like my freshman year. So I Already have a ball in my hands cuz my man right there around he had the he was the point We had like a system so like even when I came in I play JV because the head coach was like nah Like we you gonna listen. You're gonna buy by the rules You you ain't bigger than the system and I went to the school only because we're doing with them So I'm like I like but we won and I fucked around with a nigga So I'm like all right this like it's love we went in and we low key We have beat y'all varsity niggas anywhere If y'all put it when we used to practice and shit, that's how we felt. So it was all love, but the system was The big man get majority other shots and everybody else fine with whatever they got to do Like find your way throughout the game and so like my my brother started coaching and he liked me I'm gonna put you at the point. That was like my sophomore junior year. Put me at the point I started going back to school and they started like let me play with the ball a little bit more So I'm like I I'm running up the court. Hey, I don't got the plan of system nor I'm getting lives and all that now I'm pushing the point And everybody else following me and so it opened up my game for him, but at that school it was strictly just but I fucked with it though because Semi-eyed room me into like all of the guys that went there and groomed this into like really being young men learning Like discipline learning that you just can't fuck off even though we were like Knuckleheads and all that shit, but like knowing that man we have a We have a bond that's bigger than just this basketball shit And that's something that we hold on to this day We have picnics to this day of our school And that's rare for like a public school to still be having picnics to I'm going on and all this shit What made you choose 25 listen me on being Wilson. I didn't choose it. All this shit chose me, right? Everything that I've ever been in I lived in I know my whole life all this shit just came to me Yeah, I never wanted none of this. Yeah, no fame. None of that. Yeah, even hooping my Curler or my basketball dream I didn't know about salaries and none of that until like my my sophomore year and click Like that may sound crazy. Yeah, I think about that your sophomore year You it clicked like damn I could change my family life with this All way into my sophomore year. I had just a pure love for the game I then look at niggas salaries. I then look at NBA games like that Randy. We look I look at me outside I'm a whooping. I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure love sophomore year hit. I'm like Damn, I'm sitting around my man. I'm arguing with my mom at the time and all that, you know, Mom got their little shit in high school. You look I'm arguing with her then it clicked. I mean I could change this shit if I go to a league early I'm looking at KD now. I'm like if KD leave, I'm gone Change the rule. Yeah change the rule. Yeah, I've changed the rule. 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Love. Yeah, I mean, that's That's one That's the only thing I care about Even the the wave or the vibration now man right now like I call it DZ 720 Like DZ Stanford don't forget about the zealous you and zealous mean pursuit of a great cause or great energy So don't forget about the use and pursue of a great cause so Like getting back and I feel like that was one of our ways of like getting back You know, I'm like like me and my team not only my team but the fans because at that time I'm doing this shit, but I'm not knowing why I'm creating. Yeah, you know, I'm saying I'm I'm not going out to clubs I'm not going to dinners. I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that you like you have to be a machine I am enjoying none of that but until like my fourth year. So That rule was not only for me. It's for everybody money Here's I before you could you explain that rule for him So I know you know saying some of our la's your father's who didn't pay attention to that rule, you know, same The rule is that you get 30% of the cap Meaning that you get an extra 30 to 40 million if you hit the benchmarks this In your rookie year contract. So all-star team Any award going to the all-star game those benchmarks will give you 30% more than a cup and Yeah, I at that time I know what I was doing, but I'm very grateful and very Very thankful that like the league allowed me to do that Take them all them boys. I'm first thing all day. They think I see Jason say them. Tell me that straight up I'm like bro. He won a autograph. He won a jerk, but he was real like bro. He rose the greatest bro I was like Not to jump too far. He's still got to talk about the rest of his high school and stuff But like when people would see him when he was on a team together Bro, I said telling my bro. You have a cold fall on this shit is crazy like and he would come out And he's so humble and chill and I just joke all day. I play too much My autograph So the first time we get back to the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew like all right I'm messing with different type of like status Everybody asked you to go out in Miami We went out you was we was in Minnesota. I begged you. We in Miami. I begged you to go out You know how you step on the back of your shoes and shit. So you was standing on the back of your shoes. He's like Man, no, I can't go bro. I'm like, no, man. Come on. Please. Please. Come on. Let's go be cool I go bad. We go. We gonna cover you up or he like not even that bro. I'm just telling y'all really like going out Finally you got tired and he's like all right. I'm gonna go. We walk in there. We walk in the club We walking in the beginning part and somebody said dirt. He rose. I said shit I swear God like 200 people came. I said, oh shit. I looked that way. I said We get in the club and the dude was like damn, we just gonna put y'all back here They just started standing outside the section. He looked at me. He was like, I'm gonna go. We didn't have my fucking chin I'm just gonna go So imagine that Brian won't let like it's like my problem It's weird even doing like doing this so like putting myself in like weird quagmire situations You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, I typically wouldn't wouldn't I wouldn't part and I'm like that But I fuck with y'all shit and you know and order to grow you got to put yourself in those uncomfortable situations. So like Come in here or even talking like y'all don't know how much this means to me You know I'm saying I love coming in and express this shit and express like Just how I feel about where I'm at at this time, so I appreciate y'all I always use any time somebody playing the paces And I'll be hitting these with the Ruby Rose and Taylor Rose the roach of his shoes So that's that's what you saw. I got a rose room JT if you want my autograph Ellis, but listen, I like I said, we got so much to talk about but I want to read back So y'all days is teammates man. Yeah, obviously I plan going to get your other growing up How was that first time I look up in Minnesota man? I was love bro. I mean let me let me tell you That probably match up no bullshit, you know that here he a good dude and his energy that he bring to the locker room is you can't compare it to nobody brother like he The the vibration he brings he's always talking shit even though it may rub people Different that didn't grow up that way you think it says they grew up that way that you need that in the locker room You need my focus joking plan, but when it's time to go. He was always ready. Yeah, and I know you could hoop dude on to those so Just having them around having Tibs fuck with them having to cat. He used to fuck with cats so much Motherfuckers needed to hear you were saying truthful shit. You know I'm saying and When my focus was scared to say I'm new to the team So I'm just trying to get the vibe on the team you saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear and people respected that So it was always love just having Jeff around it surprised me to when like you start coming over to the crib Cuz you know niggas normally don't hang out with each other like yeah It's like on some fake shit. So like having you start coming over then you came over the night that I don't believe in coincidence either. You came over the night that I had 15 my brothers knows that My brother was in the kitchen not drinking this shit. No, I mean, I don't know if y'all want to talk about that right Yeah That was crazy Now but I'll be out that's a little layer of story because you still got so many years cuz yeah He put he gave me a chance I played against him and I kind of I'm gonna speak on the Minnesota moment But I want to talk about the Bulls moment for sure we played him in the the payoff the playoffs. Yeah, and he spared me So before we get to the 50 I'm gonna tell you when he could have 50 at night another time Oh, you told me in the playoffs mother's day First I'll never forget bro. We having a first quarter. We going back and forth. It's a duel I'm like in my head. I'm out here dueling with the MVP. What the fuck? But I'm talking shit. It's the first game in Atlanta, so I'm like, yeah, motherfucker He like he ain't saying nothing. He just like like looking at me like I'm guarding. He go by he dunk once I say, oh shit Crow go Going back and forth second quarter we had like 13 14 second quarter I think I scored two points He scored like another nine. I'm like damn Go to the locker room. I'm like tomorrow. You can switch off on him. I was like hell not You keep going you doing good Hey, like don't worry about it keep going playing good get to the third quarter. I'm looking like man I score no more. This is my fuck still going starting to blow us out. He gets what you have like 44 For yeah, 44. Yeah, so it's like what it was like five six minutes left in the fourth I'm all set the same. I know I'll let you get a nigga look that I'll never forget I'm like I had like 21. I'm like looking at him I'm still trying to guard him hard and you know how I need kind of like relax like not tell you relax But kind of like it's over bro, and then you're kind of like Come get me tips. I say Oh I was so mad I was like I went to a locker room and smooth was like, you know, it's just one game dog I was like now. I made them there have 50 Tough ass series it was but you spared me. Why are you sparing? I didn't spare you, bro? And you know at that time I wasn't even thinking about I'm gonna be thinking about scoring like I'll be really in the game, bro like every Because my mindset was if I didn't score like we was gonna fall back So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that when I was playing I just knew I had to affect the game in the positive way. This one. I really was like fuck you Floater, right? I'm right. I could test this shit out this motherfucker. I was playing hard as hell Y'all don't play defense. I'm playing hard as hell. I'm like he came here. It's me. He hit a floater Threw it up and caught that dog. Yeah. I said Hold on. He caught it out the net. He caught out the net Luis I said, yep, I saw he playing around I'm with Joe. He getting ready for Miami. Okay, cool cool. I was hot like I was 38 hot. My brother like bro. You getting your chance all good. You ain't playing bad I'm like bro. He embarrassing me bro. Like it's like bro. He embarrassed everybody the MVP And I thought about other you right? I'm good Now I remember that I helped your career to the bro. Yeah Just even have some good moments against them at that time. Yeah, they helped my career But I took that to say I seen you could have got 50 then I seen you get 50 So that's where I was going I'm like am I seen where he could have had 50 I was a part of that and then to be a part of that moment to see you actually get 50 and for you to say Yeah, I'm gonna I'm going for tonight. I'll never forget. Oh, you said to you playing tonight Nah, I ain't fucking with it. He said I'll bet I'm going for it. I said What you going for? I was like, no, I'm going for I was like, well, he's I'm getting it I'm getting 50 Damn, I'm with the Josh and Colleen said you're getting 50 tonight Huh jumbo one player. Yeah, nobody's playing and I was like damn He gonna get 50 and you know Rudy go bird now defensive player of the year all that shit. I'm like who he's gonna have to kill He's Nick. Yeah, man that first quarter now you I hurt my ankle. I'm jumping up and down Well, Ryan I never forget Ryan was like you could play And he just started going crazy in the whole game like we just watching and I'm just like this dude is amazing And it was like, you know me playing before you got hurt and stuff. I'm like this I This is him like he always got this and to see him going crazy. Then you hit Rudy with the move Finished to lay then it started getting emotional like everybody on the team just like Damn, bro. He works so hard I'm like you fuck that. We're about to win the game. Then he got emotional did I look at the niggas? I know I'm like I fuck with the security. I'm like now. This means some shit. Well, I start Fuck man. I'm a nigga, bro. I'm from the west side of that Brother be careful. Don't they get scored no point? The game go over. I'm like shit. I'm always about to be a party locker room. Fuck this. I'm gonna turn this more fuck up He do the interview. I even hear But I remember he was emotional. I remember seeing on TV. We're on back there. I'm like give me my phone I'm about record that shit you walked and they throw the water on it. Then I send it to your girl like This got to be a moment. Y'all never forget like no, I was that shit was hard Why that game dope who water game? We made you know me. I don't know. We just I just felt something, bro Right when he told me he won plan. I seen Jimmy one plan. I'm like, all right That's what it's just that opportunity and every every Nigga in the league. That's not playing which they could have that opportunity facts and everybody, bro I'm shit. You look at um nix that's not that in the league. You look at IT right now Just give me that one chance. I could go out there and I could at least shoot 15 to 20 field goals And see what's gonna happen. Yeah, and we're not once I get rolling You really gonna see what's gonna what's gonna happen? You know I'm saying I just felt like that moment was like just my moment especially going through everything like I went through went through the little shit I was still going through like injuries and Yeah, like I said, bro I'm just living in it, bro. Like it the shit that be going on I can't really explain because I'm in it, but all I could do is like prep myself For the moments like when I was in basketball. I was prepping myself for that moment now that I'm switching over to this Like my shit gonna be like y'all shit one day six seven cameras of you. Oh, yeah Not another part. I guess I'm trying to get into directing girl. Oh, yeah She's gonna better know listen, but directing telling like real stories That's in book, but I mean y'all would see Like everything that y'all saw though the commercial or the video that's me Mattie and that's random All of us came together got that shit together along with Carlisle and Mark along with the other guys that was a part of the team like but we Created that moment so you know prepping ourselves for something you For sure, you know, we'd heard a support shots at the team as well Can I say one thing before we get back to the Cuz it's my nigga. I'm just high. I ain't gonna lie, but I never forget this one. I was like This nigga different like y'all know me. I'm they know me when I'm moving the same. No, this is all good It's good. They know I'm wild like y'all know me. I became a man in Atlanta So my perspective is a little different like shit. I was going out. My team was going out Everything so when I came to Indiana did I get to Minnesota my mind still like Yeah, all right. We had a good practice. We had some game. We who but like where we going? Sorry for one night John Lucas called me. I'm like I think and Luke called me like yo, what we at he called me like man You should come in the gym I think uh, no Like you talk about going on a gym, but I was like, bro. I ain't here for all that He like man. You tripping bro. Come here. I come in there And he like he like text me like he rose in here And I come in. I remember it's your whole family has your daughter in the stroller your girl sitting on her own stroller And you were shooting and you had shot damn near 500 shots And I remember because you had ended up hurting yo, yo, yeah, so I'm like How many shots is naked shoot? They look like he gonna be ready That's a fun. He gonna be ready, and I'm like And we about to play in a playoff. He's about to play at Houston That's when you first came to the team. He like gonna be ready. Don't trip. He gonna be ready. I'm like Well, shit, shoot fire. I'm gonna shoot 50 from the 30 I said get him up So I'm laughing this shit. I'm coder. I'm joking this shit and we getting the playoffs and I'm like I'm to go on the tips. Like man This thing's got to play like he was having we get in the game. He killed him. I'm like, no, no He got it. Come on, man He got to get in the game earlier tips. I I know What do we take out? I'm like, I don't give a fuck take him take him out. He like how do I tell My nigga tips is you he's like everybody y'all Then then they get to start saying fuck it. Come on. I swear come on. Yeah I watched his nigga bill. Hey, bro. He was that's fire. Then next year. What you shot 40 from 30 But um, you assisted with that too though, right when I got to the team You probably remember you. Hey, that's you for that bird Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. I need the money to You like understand it though when you like I The league ain't nothing but specialist right effects So when you are aren't labeled or shoot it like that That shit can last for like a long time until you beat that shit up. You gotta you gotta beat that You know, I'm saying allegations. Come on, man. So For motherfuckers that know how to shoot niggas when indiana, they know how to shoot when they one years old Teaching they form man. They crib Elbow all that all y'all shots the same I have not one person growing up to tell me my shot like how um to fix my mechanics or show me mechanics for my jump shot I figured this shit out solely by myself. No basketball camps couldn't afford it None of that name is solely me being in the park by myself testing out shit and like all that stick Or I'm you know how this is after experimenting. That's just stuck But so to like go to a team And to be cool with a motherfucker To be in a shooting game with them and don't take it personal if they beat you I'm not crazy You know what I'm saying, but it takes To go one-on-one or to the challenge of motherfucking one and to push yourself and practice when you ain't know nothing about it I'm shooting with you. You don't know that I'm feeling as well. Oh, yeah You get what I'm saying. Yeah, it's popping around shooting playing talking to people. I'm trying to make every motherfucker I'm gonna teach your well I'm gonna show your ass. I'm in 40 this I'm about to stop shooting because I was like this nigga starting to beat me Are you quick? He didn't take he was taking that light because he planned he always planned it preheavacy as much as you're all right But if tears ain't on that he ain't on that That story in my life. That's one of the god, right? So like to To actually challenge your motherfucker. That's a shooter. I took pride in that. Yeah, even though you didn't know about this But now I seen it then when the next year I never forget I started like we started starting together the beginning of the year And I'm like I'm going on fast work. I'm starting to bother him in the corner and he's firing. I'm like This nigga really a shooter like he running the lane. Why you like nigga? He's the MVP. He's great with the ball. Like I should be running the lane nigga He like get it get it taken off the run to the corner and firing threes and I'm laughing I'm like this nigga a shooter Like what this nigga's fighting up 40 shooting 40 from the three And I'll never forget. I was like niggie shooting 40. He was like, you know, he had student of the game like niggie You gotta be a shooter three man. Yeah, they paying niggies to shoot the three And I remember she was sweet. Mm-hmm. He was like, I remember everything bro. He was like I'm a I'm a shoot 40. He was I'm gonna get that bag bro. Then I'm done. Yes, sir And I was like Nah, are you gonna leave like I'm in my head like he's about to leave in a soda because ain't a way he's starting over me *Laughing* No niggies will tell me the crap Get him out there. Get out there. I'm like, damn. That's my nigga Boy, I gotta help you like that No, there ain't two niggies like that That's your problem That's 44 mike's nasty It got so bad. I think I started telling niggie like do you want to start because this is easier than he was I was going for him to bitch, bro You got to go on the road But I give him credit and the guy there forget he told me like And then we got to get back to where it started, but then he told me he was like Tea, you gotta find your niche cuz nigga, you know We ain't gonna be starters the whole time like coming off the bench. They gonna pay they need somebody to kill off the bench They gonna find a new role And I never he did not want to start. No, I remember I went to teeps. I said teeps I am sick of hearing these motherfuckers Well, you start him. He was like who am I starting over? I'm like nigga me He's like you're getting paid. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench He was like no, no, and I was starting together He was like I could do that who we take out and we start trying to figure it out or whatever But I just remember when you said that so when you left I went to Ryan. I said I won't come off the bench Because I was I'm about to do exactly what he did. I was I want to come off the bench Yeah, because you told me like, bro, we ain't gonna be starters for the rest of our career But you gotta figure it out and we about to show these new roles. I was like I'm about to take his role and I started doing everything he did. I started Stretching and I didn't do none of that shit bone roller ball and shit. I'm like that nigga He figured it out. Fuck that. I'm doing that She did quite work out Yeah, it was too late by then Body was broke down. I was a money car. Oh, buddy. What was um, it's all I had your knee And that was it. Yeah, well, I had circles. I had surgery on my ankle Yeah, but then I had my patella was gone. I ain't got I'm bone on bone now. Um, it's all with it 88 ain't worth a quarter It was it was it was gone Um My last year in Minnesota Yeah, so I was bone on bone, but I was just playing and then the last piece of my patella tour And um when I was in Milwaukee Me No, that bone on bone. That's something definitely it was over. It went once you go there For sure. You know, it's doing that. It's west. Huh? Yeah, I don't know. How are you doing that? How are you doing that? He different bro. Shout to him. Shout to him, man. Well, listen, you have something crazy accomplishments, man We got to speak on some man. Obviously we got started wanting to crazy ones MVP youngest MVP ever Having wanted a craziest season of the NBA and the conference where LeBron James was like How was that season for you? Because obviously you know saying you came in a league going crazy. How crazy was that particular season for you, bro? It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember at that time Um, my whole mindset was like keeping moving so you know And I saw you always wish that you were a chair or some of the days a little bit more like me looking in the past and shit but Um, when I was telling y'all at that time. I didn't enjoy anything I didn't go out to eat my family or friends like that. No movies like that. None of that, bro. No concerts because I was totally locked in to Thinking that I had to follow what like Kobe was doing Like thinking kobas Not enjoying themselves not going on vacay. It's not doing any of that. So I felt tricked like in a way Whenever I at the time I I felt that way like my fourth year I ended up going to the Philippines where my song like relaxed I'm like, oh you motherfucker was tricking me this whole time and I dedicated three years Three years of thinking you didn't do shit, bro And to see you actually out here just chilling like it kind of Fucked me up, but like I couldn't take it personally because he even though I was like admiring them like that. So uh That year it was just fun. I had some that um, you can't explain like uh my being this shot at the going number one and being the point guard of the team like You got the rocking on hand and you got your guys. I got my guys. Well, I've been around since sixth grade on the baseline Yeah, talking or you know what I'm saying? So I'm in the whole time like that's something that Yeah, we but we did it right though meant fact we made sure that The ups and downs that we had in chicago no matter what it was we could go back there and and still Like do business or whatever it is with them So but that it was a blast over for show man. Both y'all can speak to this being you know I'm saying point guard the man in your city playing with your hometown. They're like, what's that feeling like like we talk about it But what's that feeling growing up in chicago? Like all right. I saw mj hit us now. They look at me like that. It's pressure That's why uh, it's a lot of pressure. I can imagine Um, lah, I got to talk for chicago because a lot of people when they talk about chicago They always mention like the bad shit. Mm-hmm. So I got to mix it up mj Wouldn't be mj If he was if he played anywhere else but chicago, but his pro career He would have been a great player anywhere else but in chicago He became the black cat he became mj in chicago Just off the strength of the culture that's in chicago and it's coaches everywhere like where the basketball culture is just strong and that um The expectation of Like I what you're gonna do. We seen you we seen things like you back in the sixties I you post them being Like elevated the game of doing something they're like what what's next mj one them three? I guarantee you he had people in this corner like It's no way they gonna let you win. Yeah, you just went on vacay naked. You ain't finna let you come back and win Um three mode. Yeah, I bet you can't. Yeah, that's what niggas in shot. Tell them. Yeah, bet you can't It talks to the wrong one. Yeah, I bet you he what right? I bet you can't win another one Let's tell guys. They let him get in the monthly. Yeah Oh, that's Chicago. Yeah Yeah Giggling them up just off the strength, but that's what I meant by the culture though. Like yeah, yeah being there That's what I felt Even though people my guys never came up to me and was like man, you gotta kill this month. Look at this game I felt it though. They had to say nothing. They say little shit. They are being the kitchen or something Man, what's called her? What's called doing the party tonight? Not saying it to me, but they just talking but making sure that I hear like what? What for going down before they play me? How was that big? I was going down Well, I'm listening though. Even though they ain't bringing it to me. They've been saying stating it so that I just could hear I'm like, oh So is this nigga fuck? But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest person that they had to go. I like who is a little person like That she was like damn. What's curdling, but I Gotta sleep with him. I had a problem down down there with everybody Especially in tips system defensive system where like at that time we icing Everything he if one person go over the top basketball terms he he Beat you in over the top of the pick and roll and like he now you're chasing them like behind them and shit if that happened he only like it was just hard, but I'm a pure point. So I hate point guards that feel like they about to control the whole game So scoring if you scoring I don't care about scoring like that even though like the NBA forced me into scoring I never was the leading scorer on any of my Elementary talent probably was the leading scorer, but high school somebody else was college CDL was So I never was the leading scorer. I just found my spots and um, I found the way to like make it look good But um, I'm a pure point that hard. So I hate Point guards that don't care about scoring like a rhondos like this nigga like they could fall into just a system of just playing the right way Yeah, like no, no, no, I'm gonna least try to give me your head people don't yeah, I scoring ain't really that much to me because I winning the game is more than Like, uh, I heard one of my og's Kurt Hirek say like, um, after somebody gave him like 40 or 50 He's saying this shit out like out loud, but I'm just hearing them. We walking in in the hallway We won and he was like, huh, I'm gonna fucking just score 50 points for no reason Yeah, that shit hit home. Yeah, like that's why I thought scored that 50. I was so happy that out Not one nigga like you got the win bro, but like 50 or 60 whatever it is if you ain't getting that done at the end Raised up facts. That one jet in high school. How many college? Though he adjusted Everybody like that in the high school college you getting to it. That's how you got to the league That's what these young kids. They don't be looking at these players or like thinking like all you were bummed because you want to mention Bro, did you see this play? I mean, it's a high school of college. Yeah, that's how you got a scene, bro For sure. Hey, man. You brought one of my favorite college players of all time. My boy CDR. Y'all was going cray I love to see y'all man. Yeah, no, that's a fun CDR We got and I gotta tell this story CDR. So he tried to hold me, right? So it's me him and tone in the gym. We in we there for summer Summer school. We shouldn't have court shots for hundred hundred dollars. I'll shot them At the time we both flies and we don't got it like that. So every shot You know, that's a shot in college So He hit a shot and um, I shot right behind him And um, he said that my foot was on the line and he tried to stand on me like, yeah, you know his voice And i'm like I am back. Oh, I'm like, nah, nigga. No, you got no my foot wasn't on the line. No matter the fact He shot the shot and his foot was on the line and I made him shoot over And he was surprised that I said something and he he fucked with me for saying something like damn you and let me hold you And i'm like, nah, nigga. I ain't going for it And check. I gotta tell another story. So this one I really knew that I made the right decision So um, so um, once again summer school we there Joey Dorsey Uh, end up going to against the boo concert, uh, video sheet Hold on He missed the run right He missed the whole run. I'm thinking none of it. I get to Uh, the house Joey come to the crib. He thinking everything cool. CD. I ain't talking to him at all He started cursing. Joey. Oh, so bad, bro Like, man, you let them on fucking team down. That's some whole ways he talking to him crazy And you know, Joey big i'm thinking that they about to fight because that's my first I don't know. I'm like, yeah, I just got here Joey respected it Start crying, bro. Oh, that's right. I said, uh, I made the right choice He's niggas care about winning bro. Like you mad at the nigger for um, uh, there's some summer shit You know what I'm saying? But and there was some shit that we were running. I cow We we set that shit up or he set it up in the nigger then show up and once I seen that I'm like, this is gonna be a good That this year. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the niggas that's on the same page. I'm like, all right. Yeah, I had a hell of a run Bro, like do you remember anything from that game that championship game? I The only thing I Yeah, the fireworks, bro after you leave the court the ship be burning you bro Why as you walking off I wanted to fight so much. That's the only thing you remember as you walking As a loser The fireworks you see on tv that shit come down a lot of people begin burning that shit I didn't know that yeah, the shit was burning. 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This game is torch on us I can feel my blood pressure rise if you carry on with that cocky attitude you might get yourself in trouble Oh, I've missed this The traitors streaming january the ninth only on peacock What it was like when you was like, you know, I I seen a video a documentary you on You know chicago getting the first pick or Miami or whatever What was it like that feeling when you seen chicago got that first pick like damn? so, yeah, we were in LA at the time and Right when I seen that uh They were like one of the last ones. I kind of knew then and like what it was Even though people didn't in the room didn't say it. I'm like damn chicago 7% chat. I'm like, we're gonna end up winning That's it. Yeah, and Yeah, that's going back to the crib like Yeah, everybody got the experience that one time at least one talking Like don't you know how everybody be saying you should plan new york at least one time as a as a uber just to Feel the atmosphere. I feel the same way About people playing at home if you could you might as well like at least get the experience I lean don't you you don't even know but I left Indiana to come to minnesota, right? So when you came on the team, I'm like damn because I hate No shade to minnesota. I love minnesota cool, but I hate it leaving the crib You know, I mean like damn it was everything I wanted like i'm at the crib My homeboys everybody be at the game after I leave the game. I even my family all that So when I came when you came to minnesota, it was like It's somebody i'm about to lean on because he experienced what I experienced like he had to lead a crib before So like that's why I started like you probably only know I started gravitating towards you like, bro You want to shoot you want to do that you know and you like because I just want to get like damn How did that nigga get like through leaving chicago like you was every like I was nowhere near what you was in the end But you are the chicago like I was good, but I played one year. He was there MVP High expectations show that i'm like man how you get through leaving the crib So I just wanted like i'm like man how he worked what is mental like and then I start seeing you read books and shit And it's everything that I had never even thought like i'm thinking you like Like not like me, but I knew you was like damn. He from the midwest He probably joking clowning clowning and you joking clown. Yeah, you were super like dedicated to shit. I was just like All right, let me not fuck up his dedication Because I was talking to that fuck this shit I started hey bro. You try to get some bullshit and he was just like and he kind of like made me start like Appreciating the craft again because I was kind of like damn I got paid. I'm cool My family straight, but then I seen you. I'm like and he's super cool. Like he got paid Yeah, he don't even gotta be doing this really but he appreciating the craft and it made me like start like Oh, no, let me stop playing. Let me like remember why I love whooping I'm going into the lead though. No, I think I was like everybody else this shit It takes time, bro. It takes growth, bro to get I went through what I went throughout try leaving two times Like so you get to a point where like I could keep doing the same shit or I could change so After I went through my my case Um, I made a vow that for seven years that I was just gonna like try to change my image You know I'm saying by just just being me just then out of sight out of my And um it went from seven to now. I'm on year like 11 of me just Like finding joy, bro. Yeah, I mean like a basketball got me that but even coming here I'm always looking for something for inspiration. So like coming here seeing what y'all got going on Um watching from afar like a huge fan of the judge, of course And seeing how he's adapting to like this new world and new business venture that he's in So the questions that I ask y'all in there. That's why I ask Because but that's what y'all hid So I appreciate you Was it a vet that when you got to the league that kind of embraced every almost every vet, bro Every teammate I had I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this every one of them because When it comes to like the basketball shit when I was in it I'm like, even though I am on the fame I still wanted people to like appreciate like the work that I put in or like um like the way that I played So nice to be on teams when they get up And they tell me they from booze from Alaska. I'm thinking about market Market market. Yeah, that's a market. Okay. Yeah, like them. I never knew Well, I mean, y'all you from overseas damn they watching you too. I mean, they watching me. All right, but like you Way show love to everybody. Um, and I had great vets to Great vet like uh, show me about health. Like, uh, luau was the first one I seen uh, uh, uh, uh, eat like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at halftime And now that's a custom in the league that's dead before you go on the buzzer I mean like brunch all that shit is a it's just there now but before It was there you had like oh geez that really you saw stretching before every game like a nazi mohannett Like, um, joe keem. He took care of his body Like a lot of guys were really pros, bro. You played at least 16 17 years Didn't get in the game at all, but they are get ready there get activated like they're about to play 30 minutes And to just chill. So I seen that and i'm like man Uh, whenever I do get enough position, I'm gonna try to handle that the same way But only how you get there is you got to kill your ego And that's not like a one time thing. That's like a continuous fucking everyday thing. You know what i'm saying? Well, my focus think it's just one time. No, that's just the first challenge This shit just gonna keep popping up, especially if you call your man You feel like you you accomplish something. You know, I mean, it's a thin balance. It's a balance You got to balance the shit out. So Um, being aware of that being mindful of it Like that's when he met me. That's what the stage that I was in When I'm seeing you like I ain't gonna lie everybody know me. I'll be like, I don't want no kids Yeah, but when I see you with your son like being in Minnesota and like seeing him Shoot the bat on this just random shit. I remember because I even watch him like that's hard Y'all trying to shoot the ball into the rack. Correct. Yeah, and I'm like y'all niggas know y'all not about to hit that And I'm like y'all looking like they ain't gonna hit that and y'all would continuously do it and I remember one time he hit it Yes, and I was like No, I'm not one the bet, but that's my version of the crate for him. Yeah The crate up Yeah, bro We gonna we gonna make a basketball rim out of anything on this motherfucker just being creative And I want you to be able to be on this court this stage and feel comfortable Around 20 to 10 people 10,000 people looking at you just be yourself Yeah, because a lot of kids I see like a lot of kids that get on that stage freeze up Scared in the morning. I'm like now I don't want my kids going through that And I'm putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable like I'm putting my myself in positions But for them, I wish I had a dad or yeah Some now I wish I had so I got to present the opportunity for them Man he over there tossing that bum That's so it was like three days in a room like yeah, he ain't gonna. Yeah, that that ain't gonna I'm over there like That's dope to see but that's hard a lot of these days employees You ain't trying to but a lot of these niggas trying to live through their kids on the hoop world Especially a lot. He's a you dad. So I was gonna ask you like how do you balance that dad life and you know Making sure he stay on the straight nerve on the hoop store, you know pushing itself to his max ability I mean, I'm pushing but at the same time. It's more like disciplined with him right now but uh It's about knowing your worth too because he's in the stage and a lot a lot of little hoopers need to hear this like uh knowing your worth like if a company come to you for nil deal or something like that and Like you don't know your worth you'll take any deal But you got to look at like what do you see your your brand or what you see yourself associated with Like he had a deal to come to him in which I thought that he shouldn't have took But I can't say that to him. I asked him about it. Hey, I think it's right. So Who do you see yourself associated with this brand that brand? You start thinking about it like I gotta make you think I gotta provoke a thought You know i'm saying like just to see where your head that where you think at least put it on your mind that if you see yourself being uh mvp type caliber Whoever you associate yourself with got to be on that same level too. Mm-hmm. So like um The hoop inside I let him just play bro. I'm not on him. I make him do his push-ups and sit-ups and shit like that But yeah, it's really just school and making sure that he's mental right like a lot of the kid he quiet so A lot of kids be like going through shit by themselves and I'm sure with my kids I want to be able to make sure that i'm there or not only like my kids, but my my family, you know So it's interesting here. You said you know what i'm saying with tea he caught your arm in body. You know i'm saying Yeah, uh kids that now like you said, it's a different situation now growing up in high school being good or having some type of impression They getting deals is like all right. That might be cool now, but you don't know what you getting yourself into Anybody getting deals in high school Not at the end But like it's like coaching kids like you're right It's a lot of the mental stuff like what they go through outside of basketball You just want to make sure that they ain't a comfortable spa or they in a good place But like you doing that with your kids and that's dope I wanted to know like when you watch them play Because I seen him hit a game a game winner. Yeah, you know you too I'm like damn like I remember him like you said i remember him shooting on the on the little rack or whatever So to see him hitting game winners. Do you see his skill belt like his skill level going up and you like shit, man I'm starting to see it. Do you hey there's no and like I said, that's why i'm taking this stuff I'm taking now, bro. Like I have to be there. Yeah, I'm from my man's room like uh It's all about the discipline, bro like I don't know how many times like as a As a I'm talking as a dad not a father because it's a difference Like my kids call me dad. I love when they call me dad not father Yeah, they don't sound right to him. You mean that's how I feel like i'm jacking shit I'm like a boy I don't sound right to him. So like that time that i'm putting in giving everyone of my kids my My that equal time You know i'm saying but with him since he's the oldest I have to be a little bit more strict on him As far as making sure he gets up on time for school Taking out the garbage a little choreship, but it creates your character. You know, I'm saying So discipline call man. So I'm seeing like it carries over to Where if you're not Discipline and something that you're passionate about about in basketball how you think you're going to be Disciplined in the other areas. Yeah, you're not if you're not Disciplined about something that you love other areas. It's gonna fall too. That's you're gonna crumble with something You know what i'm saying. So i'm like bro dedicate yourself to this and I guarantee you it's gonna pay off But he listened to like that's half the battle too and which I love about him. I could talk to him He got his own individuality too. Yeah, so when once I see that I don't want to tamper with that because I see that if I do You're gonna try to make you gonna try to follow me or Follow in my footsteps you your own person. Yeah, you are PJ wrote. You are your own entity Right How you feel about this? I ask him how you feel bro How what you think He had tell me the honest truth. All right, this how we're gonna think about just like we were talking about what to deal He was mad that I was telling him that shit about the deal Like because he he knew that I was telling them right Like what it was like I was asking him questions and the question I was he had the answers. He was like not elaborating on him like yeah Um, he he said a certain company name. I don't want to say the name said they name I'm like so how like they don't add up. He see what i'm saying He started to hear what i'm saying. He heard what i'm saying, but start crying I'm like bro. I'm not here to chastise you or make you feel like you made the wrong decision I'm just showing you that you have worth They come in because you have worth now. You decide what that worth is going to be A lot of kids these days, they don't know what the worst they don't they don't even know that they got work Long tell them off of it that they love them with some of it Hit them. I'm patting them on the back for letting for doing something right. So I'm me expressing To him where i'm at right now telling him my man PJ i'm doing this for me my nigga. Yeah, not doing this for you no more. Yeah I'm quitting because of me. Yeah I'm tired of it. I'm doing this solely To be around y'all. Yeah. Yeah taking you to school. I'm picking you up. I'm doing this. I'm doing that He gonna appreciate that shit. He may not understand it. No, that's my whole little saying that you ain't gonna understand it But later on you're gonna respect it I say that all the time. What's up with the house, bro? You ain't got a mother's mother's mother's mother's kid's trifling God damn why you gonna do it at home? I did a lot of talk about fuckers. Hey, bro. Yeah, I keep this room trifling These mice a shit. Go come fuck your roaches and shit. You got a lot to them. You got a kind of gas No for sure I would have said all kind of bullshit Look appearances Anything to make them listen, bro. No for sure. You got a trick them a little bit Yeah, like that's why I'm about being a dad like sparking like sparking that engine. Sometimes you got a A lot of the kids now they don't know how they ain't gonna know because of the The conditions and living circumstances that you gather man because of what you went through I went through this. I'm putting you in this type of environment So that you don't got to go back to that if they do go back to you'll feel you anywhere You'll feel you if you let them go back. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying? so I'm creating this for you And to see you thrive and that's all I'm that's the stage. I'm about man. Just bossing up, bro No, I'm pushing it all about, bro Man for sure. Listen, man. We are blessed blessed blessed man. We appreciate you pulling up I know how much this means for you, bro And how much this means to us like we said we got this opportunity shots at the team for making this happen man We were at static man. We are really happy that you pulled up on this man means the world to us for show, bro No, no I gotta say something for you leave. I'm so geek, bro. Like I'm a fan Like I know we graduated on seven whatever so like when I was a And I college you as a rookie And you going against rondo and them and the seltics and the playoffs and stuff and I'm watching them like damn It's them I know him like I competed against him I seen him to see you do that shit and then like to get to know you over the years And then see what kind of person as you kind of father your how dope you are as a person and cool And like for you to have all the accolades and all all the shit that you've got and how humble you was like, bro You would put me in spaces and we'd be in rooms and you're like you the one and you're Like this needs crazy. I'll take it over the floor, but everybody want to be around you Yeah, and that shit is dope. You don't meet too many people who just like Who got the resume or the person that you are and let you be you Like look you ain't had to let me start, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like No, no, you that's not my say or I ain't saying I earned the store At that time if we be honest, bro I'm just a realistic person, bro Like you have might have went through some stuff you went to New York and whatever, whatever And then you came to the team, but when you started hooping Oh, you nigga, you was average at 16 off the bench. I was average at 10 But still I At that time I was fully aware of where I was at at that time I didn't want to start tips used to try to come to me. I'm like no, I know you want to start I was like, please I'm gonna start So crazy in a different situation, that's going differently and most of the time I mean, that's the typical in NBA tip here I'm going to get each other, but y'all pushing each other and that's why I worked out now I think it doesn't do what I started because they were hurting this feeling It was about Listen my last day after we went to print house, right? Yeah, we went to print house, right? We had a little show and I'm gonna let y'all get out of here Me wig so if you to know wig is to love wig And he's like he's me him person. We're anti a lot of stuff He said that so didn't know wig and then to know gorgi. So it's me gorgi and wig at a table, right? We don't smile for shit. We don't do shit. We mean like people don't know this out of me Only the teammates know I'm joking shit like the fans don't know they think I'm mad so I don't smile about shit But wig don't smile about shit gorgi. He the nicest person in the world, but they don't know like he don't smile Man our table empty nobody walk on our table. I'm talking about his table Nigga the Prince Jersey walking by not one person had a just tea pressure I think my mom had that one This nigga Prince Jersey Bro had to be the highest selling shit in the NBA. They had to be bro. Yeah, it was up there I know what bro. They was walking by. I was like damn damn. That's not a damn damn. Damn. I'm like wig damn We just got a max. I'm like fuck bro You might want he's like, I gotta leave bro. They don't fuck with me. Yeah, I'm like they don't know I was just I gotta leave like they're not fucking with me no more. It was cat and then d-roke This jersey was more than cats I was like, yeah, he's not gonna be bad. You know what I mean? I'm like cat not fucking with that I'm keeping it up I'm keeping a bean bro. I was like I love cat bro cat cool as hell. I think cat one of the coolest players I ever played When I seen that shit you had to be there bro if we act Prince house bro with Prince jerseys I'm watching. I'm like, this is d-roke shit. Like I'm gonna say shit You know me. I'm I'm I'm a real nigga. I'm real. I realize shit like Yeah, he went in six. I'm like, yeah Yeah, this is team. That was one of the best collabs that they did. What? Yeah fire. Was that the first time they ever uh, did that? I don't know that shit was fired up to be bro My mama called like get that Prince dresser. I said, baby. It's gonna be a lot for you Shit I look at the road. I'm a brother. I said can you sign this month? It's how much people house like he signed it for me He was like, yeah, I signed it and somebody took that bitch From like you got yeah, you started putting the locker nigga. I came back. It was gone. It was one of them quick. Oh, it's a bike. Yeah Yeah, okay, I'll show you right now. I care I know somebody who was asking for that shit. I was I didn't want to actually decide another one like that My fuck gonna be on eBay right after this interview I'm like Yeah For that mother right now I said, yeah That was a hell of an experience. No, that was dope. That was the big house was crazy. That's where that's one of craziest homes I've ever been to I don't think I still respect them. Oh, he's a legend, bro No, I'm talking about in the house the rules. Yeah, I know Nigga, don't touch can't touch none as if he's still there. I never saw none Nigga it beats into around that like don't shoot on that go like I was like damn They said they used to hold too I love to meet him like that but Same Food menu like you can't bring no meat No other shit in the crib. They still respect him. I never saw none like it Damn, that's not all we gotta have I gotta ask we brought up the jerseys How does it feel to still see you know, I'm saying like people wear your dress like because I know like we always talk about the jars Like that light that baby blue nuggets mela jars, but that number one bull jersey Oh, man. That's like a hood legend jersey like everybody in the world even you go to the frat house of the old crazy white boys Playing beer paul. They got a deep roast jersey. Oh, how's it feel for that? Like to that universal moment? It's like everybody like no matter where my boy at we fucking with that jersey as far as right now I'm living in gratitude You should be appreciative. Yeah, I'm saying and not to make y'all this episode serious like this because I know y'all normally got like Some humor some humor shit, but now you Some people need to hear. Yeah, but yeah, just living in gratitude, bro And that's one of the reasons why I think wanted to come here and show love No, it's precious. Yeah, it's me and west shit. Mark. I said the show man. Hey, man Like I said, we appreciate you. We appreciate you giving us this moment man means a lot of both sides Man, we can't wait to see what you do next. 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