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PS8 did not want Gente to get that record on their watch. Gente entered the game due to 131 yards. A break in the record, a tie in the record, 132 to break it. Barry had 26-29 said in 1988. Penn State defense typo Gente holding him to a season low 104 yards rushing. It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in the game this season. He finished 28 yards shot of breaking Barry Sanders. Listen, they were they were they were they were they were popping young boy like their man. They were they were letting him have it. Now I thought, honestly, I'm just gonna be honest with you. I didn't think he was going to do well against Penn State because the level of competition he was playing playing at or against for that matter and his conference. But he looked he looked pretty pretty pretty goddamn good. Listen, yeah, he was breaking tackles. He ran hard hard after contact. You know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact, but most of them. He was hard to bring down the first the first guy never made the tackle and the first guy never put him down. But yeah. But like I said, Oh, Joe, you look, you don't want that record. My thing was that I said this on first take. I said, look, I know what Aston Gente is. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. If that quarterback goes at them four for three fifty three touchdowns, I'm gonna go to the middle of the field shake his hands and congratulations young man. Good luck moving forward. But I refuse to let Gente run their ass to a victim. That's not going to happen. And they felt the quarterback couldn't beat them throwing the football. Yeah. And he couldn't. Because, you know, when you when you take that running game away, because they wanted to give him the ball, but I thought in the problem is they fell behind. You fall behind, that game was about to get really out of hand. Had the quarterback, Alan, he's doing the right thing by coming back because he's not very good. I don't think in my eyes watching him play for the three or four games that I see him play. He is average. He's an average. He's an average college quarterback. There's nothing special about him. But if he doesn't follow that ball and they're about to go up 21 to nothing, it's just they about to get out of here. And now you really and that's what happened. When you get a hand like that, guess what? You take him out of the running game. You have no choice. Now you got it. Yeah. But Gente, he ran hard, but they give him state credit. They say, we don't want you to break that record on us. And they did a great job of neutralizing him. Look, they need to go back. And everybody that played in the bowl game, they need to put add those yards to the total. You can do that. Just add, just add Barry, what he did in the holiday bowl, just go look it up. Barry had like 225 in the holiday bowl. Barry's record is really like 12 games, 28 hundred yards and like 40 plus touchdown. They didn't count the bowl. See, they didn't count the bowl games back then or to like they do that. Barry had like 20 and it took him out. Barry could have had another 300 yard game. They're talking about what they were letting taken Gente out. Go look at some of Barry games and they when they took him out, Barry was having 300 yard games. That's crazy. Look at what he did in Oklahoma. Look at what he did in Nebraska. What he did to Missouri. Go back and look at Barry's staff. It's the even if Gente had a broke his record. The greatest college Russian season is Barry Sanders. I think it's one of the two best seasons in the history. Yeah. Joe Burrow, that 5,000, 60 touchdown season in the Barry Sanders, 28 hundred yards and 40 plus touchdown. Y'all if y'all just go back and look at the numbers that Barry put up and you'll like you'll get a better appreciation of your Barry Sanders college career. And his sophomore year, he backed up Herman Thomas. Yeah, Barry didn't start. Thurman started. Barry read back points and kickoffs. Yeah, that's let that sink. Let that sink in. Many of you believe Barry is the greatest running back in anything. He had to see it started with you. It's crazy. That's crazy. It was it was what Joe Burrow did that season there. You're probably not going to see it again, because you're probably not going to be able to find two receivers like Chase and Jefferson. And then when you combine Marshall, and then you had to tie it in a random all son, you had Clyde. It was a lair. You had Joe Burrow throwing the ball. You had an offensive line that was the best in college football. You got the perfect storm. Yeah. And you get the perfect storm. You saw it. I mean, the guy threw for 60 touchdowns. That's 60. And look at and look at somebody look at somebody's staff. What do you did to Georgia? What do you did to Clemson? Hey, what do you did to Alabama? The the sugar bowl between the Georgia Bulldogs and fighting Irish and Notre Dame was postponed and senseless act of terrorism. And so before we get into the show, we want to have a moment of silence for those that were impacted in all the New Orleans, New Orleans, that was impacted the family, friends and loved ones of the senseless and tragic. So we want to take a few moments to pause to a heartfelt condolences to those that were impacted by this. I know sometimes it's really hard for you to try to wrap your mind around some things that's so senseless. I would encourage you to be vigilant but not be afraid. Go about your normal life because that's what terrorists cowards try to do. They try to put you in fear for your normal everyday activities. But we should not we should be vigilant. But we should not be afraid. As we know, there is something that a person that sits high or spirited, whatever you believe that sits high and looks low. He is the king of kings. He's the Lord of lords. He's the Alpha and the Omega. He's the omnipotent one. And I know right now it's hard to understand, but I encourage God to give us all strength and understanding that what transpired today to start 2025, someone wanted their moment. And they took this they took the coward's way to do just that. To all those that's impacted all the people that lost loved ones, that lost family, that lost friends, the nightcap crew, along with many other sins, our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. We pray that you gain comfort. We pray that you have understanding and and time. And only when you're ready. Hopefully you find peace and solace in this. Oh, Joe, my heart breaks. I can only imagine receiving the news that some people received that this had happened. But I do understand, but I do I do sincerely and all my heart believe there is a higher power and a higher being. And we don't understand everything is not meant for us here to understand. But I do believe sunshine follows right. And it's really dark right now for a lot of people in New Orleans and for the city of New Orleans, because I know your morning, I know you're hurting. But just know, you're strong and think about what you've already overcome from Katrina and a lot of other things that have happened in that city. You're built for this. We're built for this. And like all things, we'll get through this. Prime Rips reported that your door wouldn't want to play for the browser to tighten. It will be multiple idiots that will say things that are totally aren't true regarding I would like your door and Shiloh to play in the NFL. If I would say it directly to whom it may concern not an attention seeker, I don't know NFL Commission personally. I do know. Oh, I do know NFL Commission personally drop. He like might drop. I had talked to Prime in a while, because look, he's getting ready for the bowl game. I don't want to bother. I'm a bother there. Now, he got the bowl game. Yeah, he got the bowl game to play for. So I'm a bother there. Tomorrow, I'm a caller. I talked to Prime yesterday or day before yesterday, he would check it. He would check on me, right? Yeah, about my situation. You already know what I'm talking about. I'm going to go in depth. He's like, everything good on there. I said, yeah, everything good. He said, man, I'm going to hit. I'm going to hit. I was waiting on my spirits to get back up, because, you know, we lost. We lost the whole boy. I need a few days in myself. So, you know, he hit me and I said, everything, everything is good. Everything good. So, you know what, I'm going to come on there with you guys. You know, I was like, I said, I like, no, don't come on. Don't come on. Let's save it. Let's save it for February 6. Yeah. Let's save it for February 6. Nah, all he want to do is clown me. No. That's all he want to do. That's all he do what he called. He sent me a text. So, no. That's going to be live. The thing in time, like, I think I read something where you said he had, y'all forgot, y'all were talking like this, but y'all forgot I got time today. The only thing I tell time is, like, when I'm going to 25, I ain't chasing no lies. Yeah. I'm not going to chase it. I'm not going to shoot it down. I'm not going to try to refute it. Whatever y'all believe, run with that. It is what it is. It is what it now. I'm going to see how long it's going, because that's one thing we know about a lot. Watch out. Watch how quick it disappeared. Yeah. Watch how quick it disappeared. You know, you know what I don't like to not getting back to prime, you know, a door and whatever reporter says, you know, he wouldn't want to pay for the Browns. I mean, why even write something like that? It hasn't come from somewhere, or you just making it up. A lot of times people want to, want to be the first to report something, because if you're second, you know, the first man to climb out Everest, the first man to put a man foot on the moon, it's not the second man, it's not the second guy they remember. It's the first guy is Roger Bannister that broke the sub four minute mile. He was element, Edmund Hillary. And notice the, uh, uh, and the sharper circle that scaled my Everest. Right. Who remembers the second guy, old y'all. Yeah. We all have experience paying extra fees. Like the one time I had to lay over in Salt Lake City, they canceled my flight, and I had to buy another plane ticket just to make it home. When we're trying to make progress, life's curveballs often feel like taking one step forward and two steps back. A chimed checking account makes financial progress easier with features like no maintenance fees, fee free overdraft up to $200 or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit. 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Travis Hunter had four receptions for 106 yards, including a 43 yard touchdown, electric touchdown in the third quarter. Talk to me, because BYU ain't no sloshes boy. At all. They're not a shell out, but you got to have a better effort than this. They were never in the game. You give up, you give up a punt return for a touchdown, you give up an on-side kick. Coach Primes job to have this team prepared and ready to play better than what they showed up to that. It's really that simple. Let's not make it not. Oh, they had a chance. No, they didn't. No, after after the first after the first two series, Ocho, you knew you knew Colorado didn't have no chance of winning this game. It looked as if they didn't belong. Oh, it almost looked like they didn't belong. As if they were the JD team and the JD team, the scrimmage in it gives varsity. But some reason BYU didn't just look look lancer. They looked a little bit more dominant at the point of attempt. I'm like, where's something ain't right? Yes. Oh, okay. I thought Ocho, I thought exact same thing. I was like, wait, I'm going to circle around you. I was like, I'm like, wait a minute now. If my memory serves me correct, and I'm thinking of the old by BYU and not thinking of the new BYU, you know, the culture of his change, the players over there have changed, and the boy flat around. Man, I thought, hey, I thought my TV a glitch. I said, they got the boy. I said, man, there ain't no way they're moving that fast. Man, I do hit that cone on that one. Oh, Joe, that dude hit that cone on the poor return. I know what that is. Anybody going to get close to it? And then, and then they kick the field goes come in with an onside kick. See, because you know what I see on film? I see when they kick the ball, y'all leaving before the ball kick. Okay, we got a surprise for you. That's how you block a punt. That's how you block a PAT. That's why you do an onside. You study a L3, the L4, they leave real quick before the ball even kill it kick. They already turn it to get back in position. We're here on side. And that's the perfect time, because guess what? See, if you down by five points in the fourth quarter, they expect it. You're not expecting that in the first quarter, are you? That's why I remember how New Orleans got the course in the Super Bowl with onside. Open the second half with it. Hold on. It isn't big. Yeah, but oh, Joe, I'm watching this game. I'm like, Hey, I'm like, damn, I said he DB. They do it. They did these receivers up. I'm like, they in they help pocket. And Colorado report resorted back, not not still on their blogs. And it was just, it was just bad. It was bad. It was bad. It didn't mean it was bad. I'm like, I've been here too much time. Look, they had a great season, but they dip. Oh, Joe, they had a great season. You didn't finish it like you wanted. I commend your door for playing. I commend Travis. We're going out there and playing. Boy, I was like, yeah, I didn't wreck. Oh, Joe, I ain't gonna lie to you. I did not this Colorado look like the Colorado that lost to Nebraska. Remember, they lost in Nebraska early in the season on the road, oh, Joe. And the brass opened it definitely. The funny thing about it, they look like a team that wasn't prepared, but no, I'm prime and understand how he how his preparation works in the time that he's put in with the players and having a great game plan, having a great scheme. They just weren't able to execute it the right way and that that's that's on the players. The owners of that is on the players, but obviously, because the the main problem where it would result, it would always point to the coach when you know that not the fact. But man, this dad agreed. They had a hell of a season. I'm glad Travis Travis Hunter and should do it. We're able to come out healthy. I wish I wish them all the best, too, man. I wish them all. Yeah, you want to do you want to get the win? I somebody got to lose. The thing I like about college football now, there are no more ties. There used to be ties in college football. That's up. Ties like kissing a pretty girl through a screen port, you know what I'm saying? You got the screen up there and she on the other side. Ain't no lips touching. Ain't no nothing. I ain't trying to tie nobody. I don't want no time. Tie your shoes. Damn, she ain't tying no football game. We don't go out there compete or chill for an hour. And then all of a sudden, okay, that's it guys. Hell no. But congratulations to BYU. We don't want to take anything away from you. This is look, obviously we did a lot of covering up Colorado. Coach Primus is a friend of the show. But you guys, y'all put it on them. Y'all opened up a can. They went with the purpose. They showed up. Oh, Joe, they showed up. They showed up with the sole purpose of doing what they did to Colorado. They say the world is going to be watching Colorado, but make them remember us. We remember you bro. We remember cuz y'all y'all did a number on them. Y'all did a number on them. Yes, sir. Oh, Joe, Cam Ward says the NCAA Division one mark with his 156 touchdown pass on the Miami loss, but doesn't come out in the second half after the loss. Miami coach Mario Cristobal was asked about the decision for war to sit. All meeting, all meeting with player and decision like that. We made them private. We kept them private. So I prefer not to answer any questions as it relates to that. But I know he played his best while he was in there. Is it a good look or bad? When I think about it, I'll go first. It's a terrible look. The fact that he even played and he played, I'm not sure if something may happen in the first half. We're kind of scared him away from wanting to play in the second half. But if you played the first half, you might as well finish the second. Now that's just my thought. I'm more I'm more in there. I mean, yes. And I'm just you want to win the game. You play to win the game. If you you don't want to leave your teammates hanging, if you're gonna start the game, you might as well finish, y'all. I mean, that just might think. Yeah, so I think everybody's thinking like something might have happened. Something might have happened. You know, I don't. I think he I think he got out of you like I'm unscathed in the first half. I'm unscathed. I ain't gonna chill and fail. I think it just don't play. Yeah, I mean, if you go and I think that's how you got it. And I think the thing I agree with you and I think Scouts that I think pro personnel is gonna, you know, they're gonna look they're not gonna look favorable upon that decision, because they're saying if you're there, you took yourself out of the game. And but the myth. Hold on, Ocho. But he said all meetings with players and decisions like that, we made them in private. We keep them in private. So I prefer not to answer any questions as they relate to that. If that was his decision, he would have said that was my decision. And we're gonna go with that. Clearly, it was not his decision, because he doesn't want because he doesn't want the kid to look bad. I give him credit. But I think the most the average person knows that the kid made a decision. And look, that's his decision to make. But for me, if I start, I'm gonna finish. Either I'm gonna play the whole game. Yeah, I'm not playing. Listen, I kind of understand it, but I kind of don't. It kind of makes sense. But then when I sit back and think about it, it really doesn't either. What's the point of playing two quarters that not playing the second, you know, they made them. I don't know. Thank you, Ocho. That's why I keep saying I think something must have happened in the first half. That's why I keep saying that, because there's no way it. It did happen. He threw three touchdown passes and he didn't get hurt. That's what happened as a competitor. Once you're in that environment and you're competing, ain't no where you're coming out. Absolutely not. I mean, just it's just in your nature. When you get hurt, they can barely pull players out the game. Right. I mean, for a guy, even if he's hurt, Ocho, he has to be really hurt where he feels he can't do his job, or he's going to end up hurting himself or putting a team in harm's way. Other than that, the guy's not coming out. That's the heart. That's why they started having a spotters with concussion, because guys wouldn't come out of the game. Or they would lie. They said, no, I'm good. But now they have because sometimes the one thing that we do know about this. Yeah, you do. Sometimes you got to protect this from myself. But for me, I think this is a bad look. I think scouts is going to be very interesting, because I can assure you, you and I have always, we've been in those meetings at the combine when they go in there and they're going to say, son, tell us what you were thinking. Why didn't you play the second half? Now, just just so you know, your head coach is going to tell them. So don't go in that thing. You put in the world over somebody. They don't know everything. But in his case, in his defense, when they turn the film on, the entire day of the season, you know what you're getting. Outside it wouldn't be more the night in that second half as a quarterback. Any team that may need one in it. So it's a few of them. Up in the first five picks, you know what you're getting as a quarterback. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liars Poker. On the latest season of my podcast Against the Rules, I'm exploring what it means to be a sports fan in America. 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