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But I do believe sunshine follows Ray and it's really dark right now for a lot of people in New Orleans and for the city of New Orleans because I know your morning. I know you're hurting but just know you're strong and think about what you've already overcome from Katrina and a lot of other things that have happened in that city. You're built for this. We're built for this and like all things will get through this. Oh show the game that you just watched the Ohio State Buckeyes took apart the number one team in the country. The Oregon Ducks 41 21 in the Rose Bowl Oregon. Excuse me Ohio State gets their revenge. It was one of their two losses on the season. They lost earlier in the year to Oregon in Oregon. But tonight they were really no match. Jeremiah Smith set the stage early. He had seven catches a book 87 and two touchdowns. But this was really a mismatch from the word jump. I think this is what's so frustrating about Ohio State because you see what they can be. Now this is the team that took away to talk apart the number one team in the country. Yes, I pointed by three touchdowns. Yes, sir. And lost on their own home field by a team that they were favored by three touchdowns. That's what's frustrating about them. And I think that's what but Ryan they give him credit. We've been very critical here. Not critical. We were critical of the game that he lost. Lou to Ohio losing to Michigan year in a year out. Having that level of talent that you've had. Think about the quarterbacks that they've had. Think about the wide receivers. Think about the D linemen. Think about the DB's from the Denzel Wars and the Jeff O'Cudas and all those guys that's come out of there. Yes, sir. You ain't got no national championship to show for. All those receiver. So Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got Crystal lobby. You got Garrett Wilson. Look at those D linemen from Chase Young the Nick Bosa. Look at those quarterbacks. Justin Fields and you have rest his soul. What's the guy that lost his life tragically? Dwayne Haskins. Wayne Haskins. You had the other quarterback and so I you can understand why people are like, hold on. Come on, Coach Dave. You got this level of talent. They had a top what top six top seven pig last year. The offensive tackle position. They're like, hey, you got this level of talent and you losing the Michigan and you ain't got no national championship. But all will be forgiven. If he takes this thing and finish it out with Ohio State look good today. Oh, Joe, they ran the ball well. They drew the ball well. Oh, yeah. They stopped. I mean, the high powered offensive organ. Yeah, it looks very it looked very pedestrian, very mundane today. It did. Oh, listen, I don't know. Maybe I could be wrong, but I think I think the week off, I think it did more harm than good for them to be as flat as they look today, as well as organists played all season long, being the number one team in the country and the way they showed up today that had to be a little bit of rust and not only was it a little bit of rust, but it was too late and there was no room for the rust. When you're playing somebody like Ohio State who had a point to prove after losing the first time they met early in the season. And that's exactly what they got. Jeremiah Smith, he said ahead of time that if you play one on one. Hey, if you play one on one, you're not going to be able to cover me. He went out there and did exactly what he was supposed to do and handled his business. The funny thing about it, people don't, people right now are talking about just Jeremiah Smith and how great he is and how good he is. And he's right now, even as a freshman, probably the number one receiver in the country right now as a freshman. Oh, I've been watching young boy last Chaminade down in Miami, you know, for a few years. He'd been like that. And literally he was like that. At Ohio, he is like that. When you get drafted into the NFL, he's still going to be like that. He'd been like that for a long time outside of that man, Ohio State looked very, very well. Again, hoping Coach Ryan Day can finish the task at hand. And for all the great players that have come through Ohio, Ohio State, they can have, they can hoist that trophy at the end of the day. Yeah. Oh, CJ Stroud was a quarterback. You have CJ Stroud, no national championship. Just the fields, no national championship. Duane Haskins, no national championship. That's three quarterbacks taking them to first round. We couldn't love a first round pick. Garret Wilson, first round pick. Jackson Smith and Jigba, first round pick. Marvin Harrison Jr, first round pick. Chase Young, the number two pick. Nick Bosa, the number two pick. Jeff O'Kuda, Denzel Ward. Come on now, Ocho. Come on, Ocho. I mean, people, they make it seem like we just making stuff up. You got that level of talent, you're in and you're out. And you ain't won no national championship. And people like, oh, oh, they're being too hard. Oh, well, and you lose at the Michigan. I don't think I personally don't think that's a stretch. Right. When you got that level of talent that coming out year in and year out and you're achieving and there's no other. There's no other way around. Oh, Joe, Coach Day, you get a phenomenal job of having this team prepared and from the word junk. I have a question, huh? Do you still, is it, is it considered underachieving the fact that you've had all these quality players year in and year out? Is it still unachieving simply because you haven't won a national championship, but the season is happening. The season is happening to the class. Oh, I'm just asking. I'm saying. Oh, think about it. Yes, sir. Office of player of the year, office of player of the year, office of player of the year. Think about, you got quarterbacks. Yeah. CJ Stroud, Justin Beals, and you had Dwayne Haskins. In succession. Yes, sir. You think about you as Jeff, your Smith and Jig, but you had Gary Wilson. You had a lobby. You had Marvin Harrison Jr. In succession. And a lot of those guys played together. Yeah. You had a chase, you had Nick Bosa, a Jeff O'Kuda, Denzel Ward. Come on, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's 10. Bro, that's 10 first round picks right there. Yeah. And I said the same thing about Coach Saban. Coach Saban said that the fans in Ohio State are psychotic. I asked Coach Saban this. If you had consistently lost to Auburn, and you got Julio, and you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Judy, and you got rubs, and you got waddle, and you got DeBontay Smith, and you got a Mario Cooper, and you got those quarter back. You got to a, you got a Bryce Jones. Like young. You got, what's the guy that went to New England, Matt Jones? Not Jay, Matt Jones. Matt Jones. Okay. You got him. Now you got, and plus you got a, what's the guy? Derek Henry, and you got Naiji Harris. You got Damian Harris, and I ain't going to talk about the defense. I ain't going to talk about what they got over there. Yeah, that one. We're going to National Championship. That one looks down. Even after a couple of years of Coach Saban and Alabama fans, y'all know this. Even after a couple of years of not winning the National Championship, after he had done one four or five, they say Coach Saban lost his fastball. That man had got four or five National Championships, and they say in that with the talent, right? You got 20 Williams and you got Allen and you got all those guys. Man, you better a, you better you a when you have that level of talent. Oh, Joe, I mean, think about Alabama, the level of talent that they put out every single year, Ohio State ain't far behind. The only difference is Alabama has has once in the last 15 years has won six National Championships played for another three. That's the difference between them and Ohio State. And you know what I would love to hear, especially in the chat, and then probably people that are going to watch this after the fact and hear us talk about this and saying that Ohio State is underachieve based on the level of talent they've had in succession there without winning the National Championship. I'm curious to hear the bottles and with the not excuses, but the reason behind why they haven't won will be. And you know, always find a way they come up with something. I don't want to call them excuses, but there are valid reasons depending on what they may be, but whatever reason, I'm curious to hear what they have to say. And Ohio State also had Joe Burrell, he transferred Lee. He transferred with the election year. You had Jamison Williams. Hey, I went, how do they, how do they list up like that happened? You know, how does, how does, how does Auburn, how does Florida let, let, uh, Cam Newton, how does, how does Ohio State let a Joe Burrell get away? Do they not see the level of talent at that time? Or is it the fact that they don't have a talented, but you got to be able to beat the guy that's in front of you out. Oh, Joe, maybe so who, who, whether Joe Burrell couldn't beat out of Ohio State? Jay Jay, uh, JT Barrett. Sometimes it happened. Uh, who was that? Was it Derek? Was it David Carr that couldn't be like Billy Bolick at Florida, at Fresno State? I think it was Derek. I think David Carr couldn't beat out Billy Bolick. Billy Bolick was like a fifth or six by David Carr with the first pick of the trial. So I'm, I'm, maybe, maybe I'm confused. Did they have the issue beat these individuals out or these players had, um, I don't want, I don't want to play politics. I don't want, I don't want to, I don't want to, uh, seniority. That's what I, yes, seniority. Because Adrian Peterson said he didn't go to Texas. Even though he's from, I think he's from Palestine is because they had a guy and, and Mack Brown says you won't play. You won't play a whole lot this year because we believe that the guy that's in front of the senior, he deserves to play. See what I mean? Oklahoma said we're going to let you play. Okay. That's probably it worked out well. Jamison Williams. He left. Well, uh, la vie. You got Jackson Smith and Jacob. You got Gary Wilson. Okay. Jmo, Jmo was at Ohio State too. He absolutely was. Oh, we all have experience praying extra fees. 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You know, and the player, even the players in the secondary taking the angle. I don't know what kind of angle they took. Yeah, I don't know what he took. The first guy that missed him because they were so the other guys were so far out of position, they were going to catch you. Once he hit that sideline, he was a rat. Yeah, but Will Howard, 17 of 26, 3 19 three touchdowns, zero interceptions. Ohio State running attack, 31 rushes, 181 yards, two touchdowns. Hey, I hit him. I hit him. Killers back down. I hit him. Killers with that. That's outside, though. I think it was a car, Henderson, eight carats for 94 yards to touch down. Logan 66, Judkin, 17 carats, 85 yards, but they did whatever they wanted to do. And they were all a little bit dealing Gabriel, eight sacks, like tonight. Oh, Joe, check this out. They had 28 rushes. For miles, 23 yards. Let me repeat that. 28 rushes for miles, 23 yards. Now, a lot of that. Oh, Joe came on sack yards college. They still take the sack yard. They take it from your rush. Yes, sir. So Dylan Gabriel carried the ball 12 times from minus 43 yards. So they're in lives. Why the minus 23, but he was 29 to 41 for two, nine and nine, two touchdowns. But give Ohio State, give Ohio State credit. They rushed three. They got pressure. They rushed for they got pressure. It didn't matter what they did. They could do whatever they wanted to do. And they took them apart. They were, they were clearly the better team. Now, all the teams that I've seen play thus far. Yeah, they look the best. Ohio State looked the best. The best, the best college football team that we've seen in the college football playoffs, thus far was Ohio State. What Ohio State did tonight? Now next week might be something entirely different. Oh, Joe, Joe, no, no today might come out tomorrow. I think the game is still a schedule for tomorrow, right? Okay, no, the day might come out here and blow us away. Georgia might come out here and blow us away. Right. But the best team that we've seen thus far top to bottom is the Ohio State Buckeyes. Yeah. I wonder what the difference is though. I wouldn't have, I mean, look, look at looking at the game. You have a week to prepare. You've already played them once. You beat them once. So I wonder what the difference was. What did Oregon do wrong? That they didn't do the first time they played. Uh, didn't Oregon get a couple of special teams touch down with the first time they played? I think, I think something had, that had to go really well, but, but to their credit, Oregon did have like 500 yards of total office for the first time, but I'll show you're at home. You know, you played better at home than you do on the road, especially college kids. Now you got to realize you're dealing with 18, 19, 20 year olds, right? These aren't professionals. Well, they are somewhat, some of them are professionals. Well, they get paid like professionals. Yeah. Let's, let's do that. Let's say that. Um, and so, yeah, I mean, 14 points in the first quarter. They got 20 points in the second quarter. That was 34 Oregon scored right before the half, went for two, got it, made it 34 to eight. But the game really wasn't that close. Let's be, let's be realistic. The game really wasn't that close. If you watched it, I don't think anybody thought once that game got the 20, got that game, got the 21 or nothing. I don't think anybody thought, man, Oregon going to come back. I don't think anybody thought that not even Oregon fans, not even feel night. And he, he might be the most, he might be the, uh, the most die hard. Duck fan. He knew it was over. Yeah. Will Howard seem to be finding a stride, uh, 319 yards, three touchdowns. Howard second straight game with 300 plus passing yard and his third this season. And freshman wide receiver, Jeremiah Smith had a career day. Seven catches 187 yards and two scores. Look, Ohio State has had some receivers. It started with Chris Carter. And you know, you come on down. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of them. Uh, David Boston. Uh, you know, they've had, you know, obviously this, this runner receivers. You had Michael Thomas. They've had some receivers with this kid. If big as he is, and the way he could move. Cause most guys, Michael Thomas was big. He went fast like this kid. Even CC couldn't run like this kid. Listen, the other guys are a little on the smallest side now. I love it. I think a lot of their Gary Wilson look, but they're not 2015. Yeah. They, they, they ain't a little bit more wire. They're a little bit angular. This had, I mean, no disrespect, right? Chat. They all stay with me now. I've been watching Jeremiah Smith since since I was his high school. He was that shaman. Right. So my comparison, even at the collegiate level, even as a freshman. Now I, I know my eyes, I know my eyes. My eyes ain't fair. I mean, I got too many, too many vision. I got, if I was in the Marines, I'd be a cycle. That's kind of vision. I got to him. Jeremiah Smith comparison right now to me is no different than Julio Jones. It was at Alabama. Yeah. I grew that. That, that, that's him. That is him. There's no weakness in this game. Man to man, bumper run zone, carpet's going deep. Intermediate short hit your head off the goal post or anything. That's everything. He's well rounded and does everything very well. Everything. He does. But I, when I compare them with Julio Jones, with some people might be over that disrespectful, slow down a little bit. You know, he's young. He's only a freshman. I'm telling you, he's only going to get better. He's only going to improve. He's only going to be faster, stronger, get a better understanding of the game. Oh, trust me. That's his comparison. And he, he will be the number one pick in the draft. Unless there's a quarterback that comes out of nowhere and just blows us all the way. Jeremiah Smith will be the number one pick in the draft. I'm not sure what, what year would that be? You got two more years. He's a freshman. Now, I think he's 19, but it all depends. See, he can't come out until he's 21 because his class, he's a freshman. He had been red shirted. You know, hey, he can come out next year because his class would have graduated. But you can't come out into the class that you come in, graduate. So that's going to put him two more years. But guess what? He good. He'd be making $2, $3 million a year. It ain't like, it ain't like the old days. When you stayed at school, you maybe you got a challenge or a charger or you got some, you got a free meal here and there. You're in that bag, huh? You got now, they make it, you know, they make it $800 million a year. Yeah. NIL deals, when you saw with the kid, the college kid is going to Michigan. You got 12 and a half million. Quarterback? Yeah. You got 12 and a half million. And he got something else. Oh, and he get tutored by Tom Brady. Yeah. Hey, is it, is, have you seen footage of film on him? Is he really like that? He like that. He like that. Yeah. Now, put it like this, he was like that in high school. There's a lot of kids that would like that in high school, but they like that in college. Right. Adrian Peterson would like that in high school and in college. Yeah. You look at him like, damn, Derek Henry, we've liked that at every level. Yeah. Adrian Peterson would like that at every level. Yeah. Uh, ED. Like that at every level. Yeah. Some guys, it doesn't matter. Randy. Jerry. Yeah. Even though Jerry went to Mississippi Valley, people were like, oh, he only doing that. Yeah. Cause look, where you doing it? Okay. They said the same thing about Walter Payton. Right. He ain't doing it. He's doing it again. Okay. He's all time leading Russia. Yeah. Jerry's all time leading receiver. So, uh, yeah, it was, uh, it was, that was the game. Ohio State. They, they, they put it on them. Uh, Oregon. Got to go back to the drawing board, boy. Oh, yeah. Texas. Now this is the type of game that I liked to watch. This was a good game. Yeah. Listen, I don't know. I don't even know what the tickets. I don't know what the ticket prices were. I don't care if there was no speed. I don't care if you were sitting at the 50 yard line. This was, this is what you call a game that's worth this money. I don't care how much it costs. Yes. I don't care how much it costs. This is how football should be weekend and weekend. The Texas Longhorns beat the Arizona State while a son doubles and an OT thriller, a double OT thriller. The number five Texas squandered a 16 point lead in the fourth quarter, missed two field goals in the final two minutes of regulation and still somehow managed to escape with a 39 31 double overtime win over the number four seed Arizona State in the peach bowl. Yeah. Chick. A late. Yeah. Oh, Joe. Hey, I know. Sorry. And as I just texted my, uh, congratulations on trying to get him on here. One of these over the next couple of days, maybe we can, uh, we can, uh, we can get him on there. He's why they're flying back now. So. Or we would have had his ass over here tonight. But man, this was a, oh, Joe, this is how I'm supposed to be. Ain't nobody trying to see no double digit everybody with a double digit. Listen, I thought, I thought it was, listen, the way it started out. I thought Arizona State was going to get blown out now. But a 14, well, the 14, what was the 14, three? 14, three. Yeah. But it meant they jumped out on top of them boys. Hey, and I'm like, oh man, I'm from the turn of channel from the turn of channel. And then obviously things started to change things, thought the mood. And I don't know what's wrong with college kickers hell. I don't even know what's wrong with NFL kickers. You have one job. You do one thing the entirety day of practice. You kick the ball. That's it. These kickers almost cost them almost to key field goals that could've sealed the win. Now they did win the game, but ain't no telling what could have happened. Ain't no telling what could have happened. That goddamn cam. How you like? You say you're a young boy. Last name. I'm going to stay. Scatterbo. Scatterbo. Scatterbo. Scatterbo. - Is it Scatterboo? 'Cause they will say it's Scatterboo. They say it's Scatterboo. I'm confused. - I'm gonna call him Scatterboo. I'm gonna call him Scatterboo. I'm gonna call him Scatterboo. Cam Scatterboo. - Okay. - Hey, he's nice, boy. - What are you talking about? - He's not, he's a senior too. He coming out, huh? - Scatterboo. - Cam Scatterboo. - Okay, Cam Scatterboo. Cam Scatterboo. I know you're probably gonna see this. I know you're probably watching the show. Listen, if you don't see it, I know my son gonna let you know. Boy, you the real deal. Boy, you hear me? He a senior, huh? - Yeah, I think so. He a senior. - Yeah. Well, you know, you belong. You belong. He run the ball. Like he, he belong. He's for the play for the Ravens or the Browns. - Yeah. - He's gonna be, he's gonna be, he's gonna be a rarity. He's gonna be one of our white running backs. We don't see, they don't come along very often. But boy, when they come along, boy, Joe. - Hey, you know, you know, you know, you're gonna be like, I'm gonna get a good name right here. Tell me if you remember this, Peyton Hillis. - Yeah. - Yeah. - The little, the little Peyton Hillis. Don't keep up, run hard. If you didn't know where he, he didn't shake you a little bit. He got, he got a little, he got a little, little move to him now. - Well, you remember, Hillis was in that backfield with Darren McFadden and the other kid that went to, they went to the Cowboys. - Yeah. - What's the other guy named? I mean, they were, they, they were doing it. You remember Fadden and, what's his, I can't think of the guy's name. What's, what's the guy's name, guy? - I know y'all, people talking about Toby Gerhart, the old Cardinal, Stanford Cardinal. What's the, he was at Arkansas. Felix Jones. You remember Felix Jones? - Oh my man. I remember Felix Jones. - Yeah. - Yeah, McFadden, yes. All the way within the backfield. Yeah, yes, yes. But this is where a game is supposed to be. Quinn viewers, 20 or 30, 33, 22, three touchdowns, one of the semesters. They didn't run the ball particularly well. 30 carries, 53 yards. Golden had a big catch. Simple, Buck 49, Hillman had 356. And Ocho. - Yeah. - I think Arizona State's gonna be kicking himself. They kinda, I think they kinda let this one go. - Oh yeah. - You can't let that guy get over your head in that situation, Ocho. - Yeah. - That, that, that touchdown, that first touchdown of OT. - Yeah. - Ocho, you can't let it. You can't. - I mean, that's that. - That should have been the number one rule from the coach. Keep everything in front of you. - Nothing. - Every, - Number one rule, Ocho. The number one rule. Late football game. Nothing cheap, nothing deep. - Yeah. - Keeping it in front of you. - Nothing cheap, nothing deep. - Yeah. - I don't care if he catches, I don't care if he catches 50 yards right in front of me. It's when you try to be the hero and get you a cheap pick. - Yeah. - That gets you in trouble. - Yeah. - Ain't no way. You lengthy, you last line of defense. If he's even with you, you're wrong. - It's a wrap. - It's a wrap. - Hey, Ocho. It was fall down. - What the 13? - Ocho. You cannot give that up. You can't, Ocho. - Ocho, my heels on the goal line. I'm thinking, as a matter of fact, I think they throw the hair on Mary. - Okay. - Ocho, I'm going to goal line. My heels on the goal line. I'm knocking down. I'm knocking down. You're not getting mad at you. I'm going to keep it on cheap, too. - Yeah, man. Yeah, I don't want to blame the coaches. I don't want to blame coaching. As a player in that situation, you've got to have some type of awareness. Some type of awareness and understanding. I understand the situation that you're in. And no, you just, you can't be, you can't get beat. Not in that situation at all. And if I am letting me make a great play, but let me be in position. - Yeah. - If you're going to make the play, at least let me be in position. And may he have to make a great play in order to cast that. - Man, I was like, oh my goodness. Oh, fourth and 13, you give up that. But I think Arizona State showed that they belong. - Yeah. - I was like, were they there below that weak conference and they didn't do this and this team didn't do that? They played, they gave Texas all they could handle. - They definitely belong. - And more. - Oh, Joe, when you watched Quinn Ears, what you think? - You know, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell at this level. Obviously, to me, if you have enough, if you have enough talent around you, enough players at this kind of level, any quarterback can look good on. So what kind of quarterback is Ears? Is this type of quarterback that goes to the NFL and elevate the talent around him? Who is the kind of quarterback where he needs a talent around him to be able to be able to help me? - Yeah, I don't see him elevating anybody. I really don't. And the mere fact that he's thinking about coming back lets you know. - Right. - 'Cause normally guys, whoa, whoa, come back where? - He's gonna come back to Texas, he gonna transfer. I don't see him going to the league. - He's not gonna see the field before he-- - Where are you at? - Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he probably, if he gonna come back, he probably gonna come back somewhere else. But I doubt his Texas, 'cause he's not gonna be Ears man and out. - I mean, I've been reading, I don't know if these reports are true, Joe, but I've been reading that some team, some college team got $6 million in NIL money for him. - Okay. - I just, when I just watch him, I'm like, bro, that ball that he threw, that got picked, I'm trying to figure out the love, the love that he loves. - Yes. That hospital ball. - Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. - I still don't know where he was throwing it 'cause the back side safety and the front side was there. So I'm just trying to figure out, I said, okay, well, who, what did you see? What did you think you saw? - I know what did happen on that play right there. They ran it in practice at multiple times and in practice it was open. - You know why I was open? You know why I was open? Tell the people at home what they say. They tell the same thing to do what? Jump the underneath so we can throw the ball and load you down with it. - That's exactly what he did, that's what he called. Anyway, instead of understanding the arena coverage, you know, and you just letting the ball go. And it's not open. - 'Cause that's what happens. What happens is we, hey, you go draw the thing up and then the guy circle, okay, we wanna throw the ball. Now the guy that's running the scout team said, hey, safety, you drop the crossing route and we gonna throw the post over your head. Boom. Well, come game time. Hey, can you drop this open? Can you drop this over round so we can throw the post behind your head? He gonna read it. - Right. - Duh, you should read it. But you see what happens, Ocho? When you make your mind up pre-snap that you throw in the ball? - Yeah. - That's what happens. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's what happens. I'm throwing this post, no matter what. Bro, ain't no way you inhale. You read that and said, you know what? I'm throwing this. And then he's throwing it like a putt. - Right, yeah. - That's gotta be on the line. But even if it was on the line, first of all, that was targeted too, 'cause the backside guy left his feet and hit the guy in the chest. - Yeah. - But they didn't wait. They didn't wanna like, nah, we can't call that target and blah, blah, blah, because they returned to favor because by the letter on the law, the Texas got targeted. But they didn't wanna impact the game in that way. They said there was no targeting, but that was absolute target. - Yeah. - I mean, he would help him to help it. And the other guy left his feet, he launched. They said, you can't launch yourself and hit the guy in the neck of the shoulder area. He launched and they said, you can't use your helmet, you can't use your helmet to crown the helmet to make a tackle. He went to help him with the guy. - Yeah. - But there's like, man, we can't impact this game like this ear, we can't-- - They pick and choose, they pick and choose them in the car lab. - Absolutely right. - They gotta find some level of consistency when you're making these calls. - Texas had 375 total yards, Arizona State had 500 in 10. Total rush yard, Texas had 53, Arizona State had 214. Quinn Ewers was 20 of 30, 332, three touchdowns, one an exception. Sam Levitt, 24 of 46, 222, no touchdowns, one an exception. But that last interception, Muhammad made a great play. Give him credit. I mean, sometimes, oh, Joe, we keep blaming, we keep blaming the quarterback, you threw that blah, blah, blah, blah. But you know, the defensive guy, they steady film too. He made a hell of a play. - Great play. - He didn't settle, was just trying to break it up. He caught the ball, he caught it. And it's okay, you know, I'm, you know, hey, 84, you gotta make that play. Hey, coach, you get paid too. (laughs) You think, you think Bronco plans on him to make money in the NFL? - Right, right. - And they steady film, and they got coaches too. - Oh, okay. Yeah, so, hey, I understand, I'm supposed to make the play, but you know, it's just the NFL. Everybody can make a play. I'm gonna win more than I lose. - Yeah. - But hey, that guy made a hell of a play on that interception to seal this victory, on Joe. - Yeah, he did. - But you can't get beat on 4 to 13, oh, Joe, we'll talk for two. You cannot. You can't, oh, Joe, you cannot. - At all. - I was like, bro, I said, are you serious? - That should have been a conversation had with the, not just the head coach, the defensive coordinator, the DV coach, the secondary coach, the man upstairs in the booth, don't get beat deep. You can't. You can't. - Nothing, cheating, nothing deep. - I am not, you, you will not complete this ball over my head. 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Listen to football today, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the post-season run. (upbeat music) - See, I want to play in my hands, old joke. - Right. - I want to play in my hands, I get them on the ground. That's all I got to do, get them on the ground. Well, you get them on the ground on the end zone, it's still a touchdown, you don't get no tackle for that. You got to tackle the middle field of play or put your hands out of bounds in order for you to get a tackle. Once he in the end zone, God, and it'll be what, oh, Joe, did guys do me a favor college kid? If a guy get a first down, can y'all stop celebrating? What did you do? - Hey, come on, huh? Wait a minute, man. Come on, man. - Oh, Joe, the guy got the first down. - He got first down. When you get that first down, you got to. - No, I'm talking about the defense. - Oh, the defense. - Oh, you got a big hit on somebody, he got a first down. - Oh, I thought you made a receiver. Okay, okay. - No, no, I'm like, oh, I'm like, what the, maybe I missed something. I say, let me rewind this 'cause I want to see what you did. It's still a first down. - Yeah. - Now, look, look, be college kid, they gonna celebrate that. I don't mind them celebrating. And plus, oh, Joe, if you make a tackle, I mean, if you ever defend it, what's your job? Make a tackle? - Yeah. - You can't celebrate every tackle. I mean, if you get a sack, oh, Joe, I get a sack of the loss. - Tackle for a loss. You get a sack, oh, Joe, a big key third down. You know, you want to do this. I get all that. But bro, the guy get three, four yards and you jump up celebrating, come on now. Now, we do it way too much with this. I'm like, hey, they having a good time out there, man. - She, scatterboom, scatterboom. Three carries, 143 yards, two rushing turns down. Eight catches, a 99 yards. Had that guy not pulled his face, man, he's gonna drag you, you know what, into the end zone. Oh, Joe, scatterboom was so outstanding. He was named Peach Bowl, offensive player of the game. - Yeah. - Scatterboom. - You don't see that very often. - His name is Scatterboom. - Scatterboom. - Scatterboom. - Scatterboom. - Scatterboom, Scatterboom did something that you don't see very often. A guy winning offensive player of the game from a losing team. - And yeah, yeah. - It's only happened, you know, Jerry West, Jerry West, the first year they gave out finals MVP in 1969, Jerry West won the award on a losing squad. They lost the championship, 43, the final game, they lost on their home court. Again, now you got to go back to the end of football. Chuck Howley, he won Super Bowl MVP on a losing squad. They lost 16, 13 to the coast. Chuck Howley was the MVP. That's the only time that I can remember somebody from the losing squad winning an award. - Yeah. - Now, I'm not saying that maybe it's happened. I don't know if it's in baseball, if somebody's won a World Series MVP from the losing squad, I don't, I have to go way back, but I don't remember it. That's what, I don't think it's happened in the last 25, 30 years, but it just goes to show you just how outstanding that this gentleman was from the Sun Devils running and catching the football. - He was, he was, he belongs. When you're able to perform like that against a team like that, it lets you know you belong. Regardless of the conference you play in. - Oh yeah. But you can tell, guys that the talent's shining above. You can tell, I mean, he, okay, that's an SEC defense. And he wouldn't got a book 33 on him. And he almost had 100 yards receiving. So he had what, 200 and what's that? 242 yards of total offense. - Hey man, the two touchdowns against an SEC defense. - Look good. - When you go, when you go play, and if you are a small school, though, Joe, if you play up a level, say you go to division two and you play FCS or you FCS, you play D1. - Right. - The talent is shining through. Darius Leonard, when he played Clemson, he was at South Carolina State. He had 29 tackles. Oh, he could play. - Yeah. - I played Georgia Southern. They were the one double A national championship, the year we played him. - Right. - I dropped two or two on him. Oh, he could play. - Yeah. - He longed with the NIA national championship the year before. I dropped two 21 on him. Oh, damn. He did that. - And you know what? This is another conversation that I always like to have, where young players coming out of high school, they're always so focused on all their offers and where they're going. And I'll say it again, if you really like that, if you really like that and you feel you're as good as you think you are, it really don't matter where you go. - Right. - You can put up performances like that, which you were able to do against better team, which you were able to do better talent. Or being like Scat Pack and coming out there and performing very well against, I mean, it's just- - You know what they, Ocho, I think a lot of times when you cut on the TV and you see that horse you pack, or you see 108,000 at Texas A&M, you see 100,000 at Georgia, you see 93,000 at Alabama, you see 105,000 at Tennessee. Kids like, I'm gonna play in front of that. - That's all I mean, I, you know, that's what I want, that's what I wanted, Ocho, because that's what I saw on television. I didn't see no HBCUs. - Right, but see, I understand what you're talking about, but then now we go into the issue of, okay, I wanna go to these big schools where they have players that have been there before me, and they, I get there and they tell me, oh, I gotta wait my turn. Oh, I might not trust the feel as much because we have so-and-so and he asking you already over you. Not about, no, I'm coming in here to compete for the job, but you mean to tell me he asking you already over me, so he's probably gonna play before me instead of let me have an opportunity to beat him out, regardless of what, what is the grade level is? - Joanne's choice. - Freshman. It don't matter. - Oh, they had to play me, Ocho. - Although you think Jeremiah Smith who's gonna go to Ohio State and have to sit behind somebody? That's the C-E-R-G, because they've been there for three, three or four years and shit, man. - Hey, you better get a little pot of that in here 'cause hey, you know who's coming? Hey, hey, they had to play me, Ocho. Oh, what, you thought, oh, mm-mm. I was one of the future freshmen that traveled. - Right. - I ain't just traveled to, oh, you could travel this week. Man, traveled to do what? I still don't sign that in my uniform? Oh, hell no. - Right. - Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm. And the first game, the first game we played, Ocho, our first home game. - Yeah. - Man, I was so embarrassed, Ocho. I called it go-ball, Ocho. - Right. - 50-6 yards, got tackled on the one. - Oh, huh? - You got it. - My first catch in college. - Oh, hello, what you embarrassed for? - Man, it's supposed to be a 50-7 yard touchdown, not a 50-6 yard catch. - Well, what's my answer? You've got to stiff him. Oh, you got to kick that thing and, you know, get that stiff arm back behind him. - Ocho, it felt like I was running, it felt to me like I was running slow motion. I was like, damn, is somebody pulling the ears all the way from me? Damn! - Whoa, shit. Hold on, man. They got the AC on in here. - Trippin'. - You mean they, you. - I mean, no, listen, huh? If it's, when you come to a hotel, right, and the hotel know you in the cold city, they should have all the rooms already set with the heat on. - Nah, well, see, if you had an assistant, the assistant would tell them, Mr. Johnson, like his temperature, set at a certain temp. So when I get to my hotel room, the hotel is already at temperature of 68 degrees. - Well, how about if my assistant didn't decide to leave me, that's been my assistant for the past five years, didn't decide to motherfucking up and leave, then maybe my goddamn heater would have been on when I got in this motherfucker. - Well, I don't know if that she say, she say, first of all, as long as you cursing, she ain't coming back, second of all, she say, she ain't no more for an assistant. - Shit. - Well, listen. - But you said you were looking for an assistant. - Yeah, I was, 'cause I had to get into it when I, I didn't, well, the position. - How's it gonna be your assistant that she got husted up to do, old Joe? - Hold on, hold on. You knew what you signed up for, when you tried to holler at me. - Now you didn't tell her that? - I did, I gave it, listen, I gave it a paper word. I gave it a paper word. This is what I come with. Like, are you able to abide by these obligations that I need, I need help in my life. - You waiting for that? How about you pay for that? 'Cause I know what I paid my assistant. - Oh, she make back, maybe that 150, 180 a year. - Okay, that's good money, yeah. - That's exactly what I paid my assistant. - Yeah, yeah. - I did my hand this. - But then, everything you have to worry about nothing, hey, you get into the car, the seats already pulled all the way forward, you don't have to do none of that. - Hey. - Mr. Sharp, like his bag, this bag, your buckle bag, you're like sitting next to him. - That's all. - Yes, all that, old Joe. - Yeah, let you guys understand, I ain't had that for two months now. So now, I got to feel, I got to feel, I got to feel a position. - I don't got time to wait number one, it's a new year. It's 2025, I ain't got time to play. I don't have time. - Well, probably, well, I mean, with her business schedule, she got a Netflix show coming out, she got another show coming out. She doing that. - Hold on, hold on. Before all that came along, you knew what the obligations were when you signed up for this. - No, did you relay that information to her? - I did, it was in the goddamn contract. - Oh, okay. - Ain't nobody tell you to sign a month on the dotted line if you want to finish the goddamn job. (laughing) - Shit. - Oh. - All right, Gwen Ewers has received a $6 million offer to enter the transfer portal, rather than head into the NFL draft this spring, according to on three. Multiple power four schools are working to get Ewers in the portal ahead of the final year of college eligibility. Six million for one year, oh, Joe. - Yeah, he got to come back. He has to come back and continue to work on his game 'cause when you watch yours, I need your play to pop out on the screen. - Yes. - I needed to pop out. When you watch the Joe Burrow in college, you watch the Seton Extroud in college, and you watch other quarterback, like the Cam Ward, they pop out on screen. There's something special about those individuals, special. So he needs to come back another year, no matter where it is. And, you know, pop out. - I agree with you, I agree with you, Ocho. I don't see special. I see a good college quarterback, but I don't see special. I don't see, I don't see man a must out or a guy that say, like, boy, they get him. He's gonna drastically change their fortunes. I don't see that. - Let's see, I mean, he might come back and get better because nobody saw that. If you'd have asked teams that were gonna look at Joe Burrow before he came back for a senior year, Joe Burrow didn't seem special, but he came back for that year, he was special. Matt Jones, hell, if Matt Jones don't come and get that one year, Matt Jones ain't no first round pitch. - Right, right, right. - Some time, look, and I ain't, I don't blame Matt Jones, people are like, well, look with, yes, okay. Now, can he make it happen? You're throwing a debonty. You got nausea, you got water. You know, you got a, you got a very, very talented team. It just goes to show you just how good he was 'cause he kept a bright young little bitch. - If we see bright young the next year, what in the Heisman? - Hey, and also look at the talent. This was what I like about Bryce too. Now, we saw Bryce win the Heisman, but you look at the talent that Bryce had around him. - Yeah, for sure. - No, he got the Carolina, he thought something was wrong with him. Then he gets benched. He come back after getting benched, and I don't know what the hell happened. I don't know what type of prayer he said. Now, he's back to playing great football, look like the Bryce young we saw on college, even in losing, even in losing efforts at the team and as a quarterback, he looks completely, totally different than he did when he first started. - He did, he does. They just need to give him some talent. If you look at the quarterbacks that perform work, look at CJ Stroud. Look at what he was throwing a tank down in Nico Collins. Look at what he was throwing too. Okay, look at our Caleb Williams. He got Roman Dune's like first round pick. He got DJ Moore who just signed a contract to Stench it. He got Keenan Allen. Look at what Daniel's. - Yeah. - Look at what he's throwing too. Damn, I mean, y'all want the man to come back. Hey, I don't care. Even Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison when he got there. He had Marvin Harrison. He had Ken Dilger. I mean, and he had Marshall fall. - At Craigie. - Yes, as a rookie. He had two first baller Hall of Famers as a rookie. - Yeah, he's building up in the Pro Bowl. There's another, I forget the guy named. Oh my goodness, the other tight end. As a matter of fact, Nicole's had two tight ends to make the Pro Bowl. Mark, what's his name on? Let me make a look at 90. Teddy, stop scratching the couch. I can't think of the other bro. He was like, what's that dude's name? 'Cause I traded helmets with a Ken Dilger at the Pro Bowl one year. - I'm trying to think what year was that? Yeah, I don't even remember. - Pro Bowl tight end, no, no, no, no, in like the 90s. Yeah. Marcus Pollard, thank you, Chad. Marcus Pollard. Marcus Pollard. - I remember Marcus Pollard. Hey, I ain't heard that name in a minute, man. - Yeah. So, I mean, y'all won't need guys to come out here and do specks, you're acting a thing, but go back and look at your favorite quarterback and see what they were throwing too. Y'all do realize that when my home became the starter, y'all know who he was throwing to, right? Yeah, Ty Reek. He had Sammy Watkins. He had Travis Kelsey. - Yeah. - Could I interest you in any of those guys? Two of those guys are going to the Hall of Fame. Ty Reek and Kelsey? Gonna go to the Hall of Fame. That's what he was throwing too. Look at what Big B had to throw too. - Oh, no, look what he's always, always had to throw too. - Thank you, thank you. - Hey, the Pittsburgh Steelers are just like Cincinnati when it comes to receivers. You know that? You noticed that? They always, always had good receivers come through that channel no matter what. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, always. - Yeah, they had plaques, they had hines. Well, she got it one of the Super Bowl MVP. - San Antonio home. - San Antonio home? - Yeah. - I mean, bro, y'all make it seem like, I mean, I mean, y'all give Bryce Young those type of weapons and let's see. Let's see. 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Gente entered the game, neither the 131 yards of breaking the record, of tying the record, 132 to break it. Barry had 26, 29, said in 1988, Penn State defense type for Gente, holding him to a season low 104 yards rushing. It's his first time not rushing for at least 125 yards in a game this season. He finished 28 yards shot of breaking Barry Sanders record. Hey, listen, they were popping young boy like that, man. Yes, they were letting him have it. Now I thought, honestly, I'm just gonna be honest with you. I didn't think he was gonna do well against Penn State because the level of competition he was playing at or against for that matter and his conference. But he looked pretty, pretty, pretty goddamn good. Yeah. He was breaking tackles. He ran hard, old Joe. Man, very hard, after contact, you know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how many yards he had after contact, but. Most of 'em. Yeah, he was hard to bring down. The first guy never made the tackle, the first guy never brought him down. But like I said, oh, Joe, you look, you don't want that record. And my thing was, and I said this on first take, I said, look, I know what Aston Gente is. Let me tell you what I'm gonna do. If that quarterback goes out there and throws for 353 touchdowns, I'm gonna go to the middle of the field, shake his hands, say, "Congratulations, young man. Good luck moving forward." But I refuse to let Gente run their ass to a victory. That's not gonna happen. Yeah. And they felt the quarterback couldn't beat them throwing the football. And he couldn't. Because when you take that running game away, 'cause they wanted to give him the ball, but I thought, and the problem is, they fell behind. Yeah. You fall behind, old Joe. That game was about to get really out of hand. Had the quarterback, Alan, he's doing the right thing by coming back, 'cause he's not very good. I don't think in my eyes watching him play for the three or four games that I've seen him play. He is average, he's an average. He's an average college quarterback. There's nothing special about him. But if he doesn't form with that ball and they're about to go up 21 to nothing, it's just they about to get out of hand. There we are, dear. And now you really, and that's what happened. When you get a hand like that, guess what? You take him out of the running game. Mm-hmm. You had an average. No, you got it. Yeah. But Gente, he ran hard, but they give him state credit. They say, "We don't want you to break that record on us." And they did a great job of neutralizing him. Look. They need to go back and everybody that played in the bowl game, they need to put and no yards to the total. You can do it. Right. Just add Barry, what he did in the holiday bowl, just go look it up. Barry had like 225 in the holiday bowl. Barry's record is really like 12 games, 2,800 yards, and like 40 plus touchdowns. They didn't count the bowl. See, they didn't count the bowl games back then or what you're like they do now. Barry had like 20,000 and they took him out. Barry could have had another 300-yard game. They told me what they were letting take his Gente out. Go look at some of Barry's game and they when they took him out. Barry was having 300-yard games. That's crazy. Look at what he did in Oklahoma. Look at what he did to Nebraska. What he did to Missouri. Go back and look at Barry's staff. It's the, even if Gente had a broke his record, the greatest college rushing season is Barry Sanders. I think it's one of the two best seasons in the history. Don't borrow that 5,060 touchdown season in the Barry Sanders, 2,800 yards and 40 plus touchdowns. Y'all, if y'all just go back and look at the numbers that Barry put up and you'll like, you'll get a better appreciation of your Barry Sanders college career. Yeah. And his sophomore year, he backed up Berman Thomas. Yeah, Barry didn't start. Thurman started. Barry read back points and kickoff. Yeah. That's, let that sink, let that sink in. Many of you believe Barry is the greatest running back in NFL history. And he had to sit. Started with you. That's crazy. It was, it was what Joe Burrow did that season there. You're probably not gonna see it again because you're probably not gonna be able to find two receivers like Chase and Jefferson. Yeah. And then when you combine Marshall and then you had to tie it around him all son, Thaddeus. Yeah. You had Clyde, it was a lair. You had Joe Burrow throwing the ball. You had an offensive line that was the best in college football. You got the perfect storm. Yeah. And you get the perfect storm. You saw it. I mean, the guy threw for 60 touchdowns. That's. 60. And look at and look at some, look at some of the stats. What do you did to Georgia? What do you did to Clemson? What do you did to Alabama? Yeah. Oh man. There's some straight up bull diggity. What I told you it was going to do. Say Quon Barkley will sit out and find a regular season game against the Giants, putting an end to his chase of single season rushing record with silly, with Philly's postseason seating secured. Nick Sariani will be resting his starters. Say Quon told Philly reported Debon Caney at 94 WIP. He's at peace with the decision. What happened? What did I say? What did I say? Coach asked me, you know, what I like to do. We had a conversation and, you know, I would call me back. Let me know that we were probably going to be resting and I mean, my reaction was kind of like I told my family. I would see my family. You know, probably 100 a little bit more than me. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is winning football games and winning playoff. So I got a bigger goal in my name. Even even listen, that was all PC. That was all PC. I talk, I talk, I talk, I talk, I talk, you believe I'm going to do? Listen, you have a player in say Quon Barkley. That is on a historic season on that historic run. Now, I understand the bigger picture. Obviously it's getting into the Lombardi Trophy, you know? You can do both. You can do both. You can do. There's a milestone that he had the chance of reaching and we said, oh, we rest in our starters. I told you they were going to do that. I knew they were going to do them like that. I knew it. I knew it. Oh, Joe. And I'm speaking from experience. We had a very similar situation with the Real Divas. Yeah. The Divas need a hundred and seventy, a hundred and seventy one yards. Yes, sir. A hundred and seventy. And we got once he needed the last game of the season. We had home feel sold up. Right. We're thirteen and two. The worst we could be was thirteen and three. The Jets couldn't catch us because they were twelve and four. The best they could be was twelve and four. We had home feel sold up. The offensive line said we want that record. Yeah. Well, hell, we. T.D. They say they want it. Let's go get it. We got one seventy eight. My final game. Hmm. And guess what happened in ninety eight? Oh, Joe, I went to and he went ran for one ninety nine against Miami. The first game blew them out. He was out in the third quarter ran for about 50 against the Jets in that game. And then went over a hundred again against Atlanta. Right. So it can be that make it seem like, well, if you play in the final game, we and he might get the role he might get being in the first play of the other regular seat to get the playoff. You can't look at it like that. You run it by you play football. I'm getting that. I'll tell you what, it costs you all five million dollars for me to sit out or I'm a raise. Holy and give me five million. I just got it down and I said, I'll give something out of this. Oh, that's too close though. Oh, that's too close. Even if I did, you know, Joe, I'm like, what did I say? I'm leaving with something. Yeah, I'm leaving with something. You got to say, quiet. I would have said, listen, you the rest of starting, but I'm not, I'm not resting. I'm going to play. Hey, I'm a backup. I'm going to play. Yeah, oh, Joe, do you understand how close that is? He's a hundred and one yard. Jonathan Taylor just ran for one twenty five. He's just one twenty five against the giant plus I want to stick it to him. I want tomorrow's I won't show him or whatever his name is, the general manager. I want him to see I would have been perfect. Can you imagine NFL, Russian record against the team that let you go against the team that gave up on you against the team that said, you know, we don't, we don't really value not only you, but the position you play and what you can do for us. Yes, I would love. I would love that. Come on, man. And I think, you know, honestly, I think that call is coming coming up from from somewhere else. And that's all I'm breaking up somewhere else. When Tom Brady broke that record, they have nothing to play for against the giants. So did Tom Brady with out there and got the record? Randy Moss, when I didn't got the record and had nothing to play for. Now, OK, they lost the Super Bowl, but do you think them playing in that game? Had anything one doesn't that y'all trying to make it mean exclusive? Well, if we do this, we can't do that. Nah, man, I'll be better than me. Cause I'm like, bro, 101 yards as soon as the first off in the series would have happened, I would have been not doing my helmet on. Hey, hey, I was like, Hey, guys, I got, I got a hundred thousand. And we get this record by the half. Each off is a line. We get a hundred thousand. As a matter of fact, everybody on the offense, I got a hundred thousand for you. Cause guess what, Oh, when you say when you when you go to the autograph signing now, you know, you're the single season, Russian League, and you write 2106 or you write 2120, you make that back in one signing. You don't understand your life. You're like, can you listen? Siquan is already that boy. Anyway, yes, he happened to his life. If he gets that Russian record. Don't you listen, I'm telling you, cause I don't, like I said, I don't sign that much guys. I only sign about once every five years. I'm good. But when you put that in senior, now you can just get the names. Okay. Say quan Barclay, 26. Now. Single season Russian leader. Oh, that extra. That extra. That extra. Yeah. Every inscription is extra. Oh, P O Y. Extra. If he sports enough to make it into Hall of Fame, H O F. That's an extra. Excellent. Yeah. Oh, man. And then I have a question on history that in that fail, when it comes to running backs, has there been any to go back to back 2000 yard seasons? No, there's never been a 2000 yard. No. Dan Henry had the best chance. Dan Henry had about 1100 yards and nine games and he got hurt. He went 2000. He was on another history. He was ahead of the pace in which he rushed for 2000, but he got dinged and missed. Our whole point of why, when you have the opportunity to do it, to make a change, to make a difference, to make history, you take it. Yes, take it because you're not going to get the opportunity again. The chances of doing this again are slim to none. Slim to none, but it is what it is. I mean, I think about the NFL is over a hundred years old. I would have had the greatest single season rushing in NFL history. Be greatest, OK, somebody to break that record. But you know who wrecking they broke mine? That's who wrecking they broke. That's just a guy. I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. I'm just too close. I honestly, I'm just too close. A hundred and one yard and he played his tail. He probably looking back like, man, man, some of those games that I when I let the other guys, I could have it might have been a situation. I've been only like 50 yards and then 50. They might have let me get it. But I just hope I just hope they make a run in the playoffs. I hope they make a run in the playoffs, especially taking this route. Obviously, wrestling the starters. I want I want I want I want the Eagles to make a run because they act to me or as for say corn to say the rest and have the chance of getting the individual accomplishment of that magnitude. We're either leading rush of all time, right? The first trial, you mean to tell me, God, damn, we go on home and I set out and I have rested for this shit. Oh, hell no, I mean, I'm old enough. I'm old enough to remember when Edie broke the record in 1984. Yeah. So to like to see a record and to see somebody break it again, I'm when when when Danny, Marino, because those two records happen in the same year. Danny threw for 5,000. E.D. ran for 2,100. That happened the same year in 1984. I'm older than the room when Peyton broke the record broke the touchdown record. He threw 49, Marino had 48 and then Tom Brady in 2007 through 2000 through 50. And to see like to see the records, you know, happen, you know, I remember when I asked, you know, when you asked, you know, broke the exact record. I mean, just to see the like not just like a while with a lot, but I saw it. I remember it. Man, hey, I'm saying, why are you the rule of my week? They I started here with with, I don't know. We're going to talk to brass. That's why I said what I said last week. I know I know the game. I know how they're going to play. They're going to play. They're going to play every time. Well, he already got it. He already got he got the money. He got, you know, he had 500,000 if he's first team on pro. He had another two 50 for the Pro Bowl. He had another five. He's that he's made one point or one point two 50. But even forget the money, forget the incentive that he's already reached. I'm talking about the milestone of being the all time leading Russia and NFL history. You don't pass up that opportunity. You know, it's not going to come again unless you plan fucking Madden. Oh, you can't miss that. So many things have to go right and you're running back. Oh, chill. Think about it. That man, he got 300 plus carries. OK, that's running the football. How many passes have he called? OK. Hit in the ground, getting tired. I understand the ones that he did, but what about it? I ain't talking about the just the one tackle. What about they hit him? He hit the dirt and then another two, three guys fall on top of his ass. Oh, hell no, give me that. Yeah, I'm sorry, but I really want him to get it. I mean, I ain't got look. I'm a fan of the game. I'm a fan of history and I just like, I like to see records broken. I really do. Sorry, Edie. I was in. I was cheering for him too. Yeah. And Saint Kwan is the right person to do real good thorough do. Who there? Saint Kwan, he's the right person. I mean, I said, I don't really know that well. You know, go to the Super Bowl. You see a lot of these young guys, but he seemed like a stand-up dude to me. And I want to break the record. We're at the room, we're at the room. And I'm going to be the first, when he broke the record, I'll be waiting. And as soon as he broke the record, I'll go hit dial or Edie's number. Oh, man. The volume. I'm Peter Schrager, host of Good Morning Football on the NFL Network and the season with Peter Schrager podcast, whether you're ordering wings for the game or you're whipping up a seven layer dip or you're ordering a pizza, there's something about football that makes you want to eat in this football season. Uber Eats has the best deals on game day food, no matter what you're craving. From two for one pizzas to buy one, get one wings to whatever it is you want. 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