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It's on way his way to winning the Triple Crown. I think he'll be the, what, the sixth Triple Crown winner? Yeah, he won. Jerry, my brother, Cooper Cup, Smitty. I think Don Hudson, was it Don Hudson that won the Triple Crown? ♪♪♪ Don, yeah, Don Hudson, Jerry won it in '90. My brother won it in '92. I think Smitty won it in 2005 or 2006. ♪♪♪ 2005, and then Cooper Cup won it in 2020. Right, or 2021? ♪♪♪ That's why he had like five of them, but they don't really count. ♪♪♪ They go, I don't think they take anything, you're a pre-merger. ♪♪♪ Okay, right. But that's, that got to make you feel good. When the young, when the young, like man, I chop it up with old Joe, he's one of the first guys that came in and offered me some words of encouragement and, you know, talk to him and blah, blah, blah. That got to make you feel good, old Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, most definitely. Obviously, having an opportunity to watch him in college, him getting drafted, it's a Cincinnati. I was one of the first people, one of the first people to, you know, I got his number right away. Called him, congratulations. And I was happy, I was hyped. I prayed with him in the off season. Of course, my crazy ass, a young guy, they're playing DV. No, I'm, like, serious. I'm talking about, are we out there? We out there really competing and talking trash. And I'm either trying to cover him and Justin Jefferson. Man, I'm getting, I'm getting the, the, the. No, blow it off you. What? Man, I'm, but I'm, I'm going, I'm going as hard as I can. Man, he's just being able to watch some dudes up close and watching how they work and how, how serious they take the craft, you know? Everybody's, you can finish product on Sundays. They see the finished product. I'm, I'm seeing them in the grind and the trenches, you know, before, you know, in the, you know, in the off season, getting, getting right, man. So I have such an appreciation for, for, for Jamar Chase, man, his game and just, just everything he does on the field. And he is so much, such a much. I don't know. He's such a better. Complete. Even I am complete. Some of the stuff he does, I can't, but I can't come on. Yeah, that's why you see, if you've been working out, because see, he got the kind of body that can run through tackles. Your ass couldn't. Nah. I ran through Ray. I ran through Ray. That's all that matters. You lost that one. Yeah, I did. This is, I lost every time. But you try to get your A for effort. I will give you your A for effort because a lot of people wouldn't be born. They hit it. You tried to, you tried to sneak it. If I see him, I'm coming. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. Hey, listen, can't change, can do some things I can never do. If I see when he has a ball in his hands, I don't have that gift. Yeah. You have to be able to do that. To be able to bounce off of tackles, I can't bounce off of people. I'm making business decisions every time. Now, you know, I have 50/50 balls. Hey, I can't manage that, that ain't me. Now we talk about getting open. We talk about entertainment. We talk about coming up here in press if you want to. We talk about trying to double team me and thinking you're going to stop me. Now we talking. We talking about running routes. Run as fast as hell is stopping on the dive or getting open. Close your eyes and you tell me to get open and you throw to a spot and you know I'm going to be there. Now that's my game. Right. That chase shit. Well, I can't do none of that boy. Oh, sir. He's special. He's special, man. He's special. I mean, like you said, he's great at running after the catch. Great contested balls. He does it all. Now, you know, a lot of times because look, in order to run after the catch, you got to take your eyes off the ball a lot of times. You got to trust that the balls will be where you say it is. Yeah. And so you see he get a couple of times he'll drop a few. Yeah. He's so anxious to try to get home to go. Yeah. He's trying to get out. He's trying to get out to do it. Hurry on the road, Joe. But man, he's phenomenal. Yeah. He shouldn't be. I think he and Saint Quand will probably be the only unanimous first team on the ball. Right. All pros. And I think deservedly so. I don't think we're going to get, you know, I think the two running backs will be Derek Henry and Saint Quand. Right. It's going to be interesting. What's going to be interesting? Who's going to be the tight end? Is it going to be Kittle? He's a loser squad. Is it going to be Laporta? Is it going to be McBride? Is it going to be Bowers? Right. It's going to be very interesting. I think that the Bowers find like so for the soul. They probably don't go with Brock. But I know those two running backs are going to be Derek Henry and Saint Quand. Right. And the backs have been good. Kyron Williams got a cake with any other season. He would be in contention. Josh Jacobs would be in contention. What's the guy at Atlanta? They're going to be on Robinson. They've got some guys that play really, really well. But when you get Saint Quand on the historic pace that he was on and you get Derek Henry being Derek Henry behind that offensive line with that quarterback and you got to focus on that quarterback. And the next thing you know, King Henry is running down hill at you. You got a lot on your plate to get that. But that's real good. I mean, I'm Donna will be the quarterback going forward. This scenario is complicated because of Donald proves not to be the long term answer. They would have gone two years into McCarthy's rookie contract without seeing him seeing what he's capable of doing. McCarthy was considered developed middle prospect coming out of Michigan due to his limited starting experience. 29 games over two years and the style of offense he's played in. Oh, Joe, do you think this is the right move? I mean, shoot. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That's the answer based on what we've seen. You know, from the small sample size this season because of the players that he has around him, Sam Donald is not going to. He's not going to digress. He's not going to digress. You know, Addison still going to be there. How comes it still going to be there? What happened to my damn camera? Tell us what we both know. Hey, it just cut off out the blue. Hold on. What the hell? Can you still hear me though? Yeah, we hear you. Oh, let me keep talking. Yeah, how comes it still there, Addison still there? So, um, what now? I'm going to switch to my laptop. My laptop camera. But here's the thing. If you thought if you thought Sam Donald was that, why would you draft? Why would you draft JJ McCarthy? You took Sam Donald in. They didn't know though. They didn't know. That's my thing. But if you thought he was that. So he surprised them too. I remember having a conversation about being surprised and everybody that. How were you surprised? He was the third pick in the draft. I was surprised because they took him and they still drafted a quarterback with a top 10 pick. Yeah. If you're secure. I mean, most people that I know. I mean, if you, you know, you got a car like, okay, I got a car. I'm not going to go out and buy a new car. If I'm, if I'm, if I'm convinced that the, the used car that I got can get me from point A to B in a timely manner. Consistently. But you know what? You got to look, think about the, the scouts. Think about the GMs. Think about the, the film that they had to study when he was in New York or we was Carolina. So they're thinking, they're getting that Sam Donald. Not knowing what what kind of Sam Donald are we going to get when we put elite talent around him like this. Now you see what you get. You got to, you got to, you got to, you got to add a quick quarterback that can get the ball, that can get the job done. That can get the ball to the receivers. You have a decent running game with Eric Jones. You, you in good company. You know what? We can do this for the next three years with you. So there's no need for J.D. McCarthy. But I would say I wouldn't let J.J. go. I wouldn't, I wouldn't let him go somewhere else. He still can be the future. But here's the thing. Sam Donald is only 26. That's the problem that you'll up against. He's 26. Oh, Joe. Yeah. You know what? I don't like, I don't like where my camera in here. Interrupt in my. I wonder why I cut off like that. Okay. Let me try it again. Yeah. Oh, Joe. Barnard unforeseen change. The jets are expected to move on from Aaron Rodgers and Devonta out of this offseason. The relationship between Woody Johnson and Aaron Rodgers is reportedly a repair. It's not bad. It's reach irreparable harm. Dang. It's right. She didn't do well in school. I just know that right now. Somebody wrote up papers was you're irreparable. Okay. Aaron Rodgers acknowledged that Sunday could be his last game in the NFL. So Roger said he would decide before free agency in March, whether to play in 2025. Joking that he won't need darkness retreat this time to help him through the thought process. Hey, well, and he's going to change his tune. You know that, right? Yeah, me. Oh, look, they just give him a contract extension. So he, how much money he got guaranteed? He probably got. You woke up. Teddy. Okay. Good. Like his answer. Oh, I think he just signed a contract extension. Who Aaron. That's it. They ain't nobody. They go eat that he go. Yeah. Because it seems that at some point type, if the reports are to be believed. Right. That Woody Johnson wanted to be Aaron Rodgers five, six weeks ago. And now, now basically it is, it's true with him. I don't like the fact that he gave rid of my, my dog Devontae. I think they doing so and they're probably going to pay Garrett Wilson and I'll see you. But now we write back at square one. Because let's see. Also reports are being said, if they were to be believed that if Aaron Rodgers stays, Garrett Wilson is going to ask to be traded. The report says that there were some issues in many cap training camp that has not been resolved. Now, I remember Oh, you're having a conversation with you. And I said, Oh, this don't look good. You say, Oh, come on, you know, you know, I said that because I had those same heated conversations like that. But Carson, I had those same heated conversations like that with Kidna. But guess what? Kidna was there. You were there. And Rodgers is an outside. He's an interloper. Oh, I see. He came from somewhere else. That guy says, hold on. You're supposed to help me take my game to the next level. The guy that was here, I won off as a player of the year with Sam Darnell. You're supposed to be better than Sam Darnell. I'm regressing and people saying, I'm taking a step back. I'm trying to find out what do you need from me. I'm trying to tell you what I need from you. And for whatever reason, we saw this a lot of time on the sidelines. They were having these conversations and they weren't connecting. I don't know what was being said. I would have liked to be on the fly on the wall to hear. But this relationship has never materialized. Yeah. Maybe it's just, I don't think it's material. I don't think it's gone. Listen, nobody is happy, not one Jets fan. I don't know if you can pull a Jets fan and say, yeah, we want Rodgers back. It'd be interesting to see. No, they probably all say no. They probably also not only the fans. The players might say no as well. The front office might say no, you know. But I tell you what they need to go. Where? The Chiefs. Oh, that'd be a good one. You want to win? Now he tried to lose it. Now he been in Oakland for two years. He was in the Jets. So that's two and a half. That's two years of losing. Now they're three years. Because he wasn't. This is a third year. Just so it's third year out of Green Bay. You tired of losing? Go on there. That'd be nice. That'd be a good move. That'd be a great, that'd be a great move. Can you imagine? Yeah. If I tell you with my home boy. That's nasty. Wow. But I, like I said, I don't, I don't, I don't think, look, I don't think the Giants, the Jets giants. I don't think the Jets fans. And it doesn't matter. It only matters if the owner want him back. Right. And you know, indication reports are that the two young teenage sons, they're kind of like calling the shots, they're sending their dead stuff on the internet and so forth and so on. Joe Douglas reportedly said, I've got to answer the two teenagers. And when it comes down to it, he's taking the advice of its sons over, you know, what we're, what we're asked to do the amount of time that we spend studying film and critiquing and doing all this and two kids that don't do really anything with still on the internet. And he takes their advice. But, uh, it'll be, it'll be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays out. But I think there's no well around it. This is one of the biggest disappointments in free agency on a very, very long time. Absolutely. There's no well, there's no well around it. Absolutely. We all have experienced praying extra fees. Like the one time I had a layover in Salt Lake City, they canceled my flight and I had to buy another plane ticket just to make it home. When we're trying to make progress, life's curveballs often feel like taking one step forward and two steps backwards. 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It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm going to be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you send it. Yeah. You're like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Cowboy's Grant Ezekiel Ella's request to be released. Zeke will be placed on waivers once he clears. He's eligible to sign with any team. Jerry Jones in a statement out of respect and appreciation of Zeke and wanting to provide him an opportunity to pursue any playoff participation possible. We are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today. Oh, Joe. Yeah. What team in the playoff need a running back average of two yards a carry? All of all of them have running backs. Coach. Yeah. I mean, you need a, what's the big average? Because maybe maybe maybe I'm being a little harsh. Maybe it's three yards a carry. The roster, the rosters of pull up. He's averaging three. Okay. Tell me the team that's going to be in the playoffs that needs a running back. That's averaging three point one yard of the carry. That by all intents and purposes, it's over. It's over. At one point in time, Zeke, your alien wasn't fair of bread. He was a race horse. Well, when he couldn't run anymore, you hook them up to a plow and you turn them into a plow horse. Now he can't even plow anymore. So you know what time it is, Ocho? You put him out the pastor because pretty soon we're going to have to turn his ass in the blue. Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't know. I got to be honest with it. Shut up. No, I'm telling the truth. Y'all see Zeke. Zeke, Zeke came in that guy in a very, very long time. Go back and look at it. Every year, his numbers have done this. Every year since the week, year, he got into the league 2016. Look at Zeke's average. Y'all is for a game, average for carry. So you don't think the other team you can go to on week and week and contribute? You don't play special teams. The only one potentially because they lost Montgomery. Maybe Lions. There we go. There we go. See, I like what you're doing. I like, I like when you go over there. I like when you go over there. I like when you go under and lightning again. Ezekiel Elliott, Jamir Gibbs, in the playoffs. Well, bro, I know you're going to see this. Let's bring Zeke in. Matter of fact, that might happen by tomorrow. Ezekiel to the Lions is hard for me to believe. They don't have a running back on their on their practice squad. That's better than what Zeke is right now. Because what you're doing is that you're looking at Zeke from the past and he's been long past that. You're never going to get the old Zeke. You just got an old Zeke on your hand. It happens to us all. Sometimes it happens sooner. It happens sooner for some than it does others. But they know about it. There's not one person back until you Zeke has anything left. I just, I didn't understand the move to begin with. You let him go because you said he didn't have anything left and you bring him back because what you thought the year in those 200 carries that he had on his legs in New England, what revived him. I was confused. And then you bench him because he showed up late for meetings. Y'all make it seem like that's the first time Zeke has ever done that. I guarantee you that's not the first time Zeke has been late to meeting or practice. So he waits to now that they're losing to do this now. The habits that you establish, they carry over. That's why you don't accept anything in a win. You wouldn't have lost. You see, a lot of times he lost it. I give prime example because he losing doesn't, doesn't, doesn't show care. It reveals it. Right. He was happening with what P. Mack is talking about in the coast about guys showing up late, missing, missing, missing that. That's the time that you reveal who you are. Everybody wants to be a part of everybody. When you winning, everybody watching extra film, everybody showing up on time. Everybody make it wait. Everybody doing what they're supposed to do. But the moment you start to lose. Guy coming two minutes late, three minutes late, five minutes late. All of a sudden they're not paying attention to details. They're not falling asleep in meetings. They're coming in a little overweight. Nah, we're going to do things the right way. When you lose a draw, there's only one way to do things. And that comes from the culture that's been a step away. You don't have no culture because Jerry. But really, really the culture and I think Saturday, like the coach sets the vision. Right. The locker room sets the culture. That's the problem in Dallas. You don't have that. That's the problem. There lies the problem. There's only one way to do things. That's the right way at all times. Right. We're going to show up on time. Your time isn't more important than mine. We're going to be professional. If I can get my old last year on time, you can get your young ass here on time. We'll a we're not going to sleep in meetings. Hell, I ain't sleeping hell. I'm tired too. I love take my midday nap. Cause as soon as I get our first take, I go right back up there and get me 30 minutes to an hour. Oh, no, but that's the locker room. That's where you have veteran leadership. The whole people accountable. And to make sure they're doing the right thing. But you can't hold them accountable. Right. My car. They can't find nobody. Cause yeah, if it's his favorite, you'll wipe it off. Can't wait like that. You can't. One voice, one sound. One chef. Many servers. You heard us saying too many cooks in the kitchen? Yeah. No, no, no, no. You have a chef. A sous chef. Okay. That's the problem. I hate it. I hate it. I mean, look, I'm on. I'm not sitting in tangent. You're a little. Yeah. I won three soup bowls, but I played 14 years. What happened to the other level? Right. I was five or 11 some of those years. I was seven and nine. I wasn't always perfect, but I tell you what, I was always professional. Not just, not just my job description. But what I did. You have to accept accountability. Be there on time because I knew one day, and I told Al Wilson this. I said, Al, one day you're going to sit in this seat. Al, you're going to be the guy. I was a thumbful boy. It was. I said, Al, you're going to be the guy. That everybody's going to be listening to and looking to. And if you show up late or you'll. Went out again. I said, but if you show up late, they're going to think it's over. Late. They're going to think it's okay. Right. And I remember having him a conversation with him about four years, about five years. That's our retirement. He like big play. You're right. The more folks don't care about nothing. You can't get them to do this. They don't want to come on time. They don't want to yada. I see yada. No. But you do the right thing. And hopefully there'll be someone there that's going to be in your position. And they'll carry that tradition of doing the right thing. He's been dealing with lower back issues that might be chronic. He was ruled out for last week's game against the New York Giants due to a back and foot injuries, though is back. That's the main problem. Rich is originally under winning MRI that revealed he had a disc problem. Rich is and said last week was tough. I couldn't even stand up on Tuesday. Could barely even walk crawling around the house. But here I am. I'm standing now. If I could do everything in my power to get out of the field. I'm going to do something. If I could do everything in my power to get out of the field, I'm going to do so. That's my mindset last week as well. But I could barely move. Rich is and said he's aware of the critics, many of whom to labor him injury prone. And that's why that's they have their right to their opinion. Since he missed significant amount of games. He added that all they can do is work hard and try his best to be available in the future. What's your thing? What's your thing? It is, huh? They say he got a disc problem. I mean, something like that. Something like that would have been on the medical report before you got drafted, though, huh? It could have been. But, you know, hey, it happens. I hope that's something that he can resolve. You know what? Hey, you ever have bad problems? I ain't never had no damn injuries on. Boy, that back ain't nothing to play with, Ocho. It's worse than the half string and the groin. What? You can't move. You can't, listen, at least you can, when you got a hamstring or groin, you can like drag. Put that back. You can't even get up out of bed. Real? What? Man, that boy. Whew. Man, I ain't, man, I, boy, you letting me be. Bad Ocho that they had me so bad, Ocho, I was driving home. Yeah. Man, I had to stop side of the road and just cry. What was that, man? Man, you try to say anybody had a back. You try to drive like this. You try to have the one foot, the right leg, and the positive seats. You driving with, got the left foot on the gas. Ocho, you try some bad. Bad Ocho. I'm talking about you crawl. Ocho, you crawling. Man, that thing was so bad on my, it was a compressing on my sciatic. Ocho, you know I'm 6'2". Man, I couldn't stand up. I was about 4'5". Wait a minute. How did it get like that? I don't know how it got like that. Squatting too heavy? No, no, no, no. I ain't been stopped squatting. I ain't putting nothing on my back. 1.75. 1.75. That's how I got going back right now. Do you know what I'm saying, Ocho? But boy? Yeah. Well, I'm telling you, hey, that thing has you crying. So, hey, I don't envy you, bro. Hopefully you can get that thing resolved. I ain't really, like I said, I wasn't going to have a, I don't be wanting to go in that I didn't get enough of a duel and it definitely helped. But he told me I was going to end up having to have a surgery. But no, I ain't really trying to do that. Because they want to go in there and open it up because mine is starting to compress. All right. All right. Other than all, nothing. I got artificial hips. Mm-mm. I say I'm good, but boy. The back of the end of the play with Ocho ain't nothing. No, that's crazy, man. Ocho. Bears quarterback Jalen Johnson says out the Packers for the game against Green Bay. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel it. I'm going to try to go out with a bag. There you go. That's what I like. I like it. Listen, Jalen Johnson wanted a better corner than the league. Sometimes you got to come out like that because the Packers have owned the Chicago Bears for a while now. They've owned them, you know? It's going to be bad for a minute. See, like everybody been owning them. This makes the game exciting. Now guess where all the eyes and attention will be on? Yeah. If you're Johnson, you can open a can. You'd engage. You'd engage the Packers. Blue's the ball material. Now, all you got to do from an individual standpoint is hope your team may show up for you and back up your words, but then you also have to back up everything you said. Yeah. If you said F the Packers, then you got to go out there and play like F the Packers. And that's something that he can do. He's one of the better, better players in the NFL at the DB position. I'm way, I'm waiting to watch you nephew. I'm going to be watching you. Mm hmm. Yeah, you're a look. That's the thing. When you talk, this is the NFL, the oldest rivalry. Yeah. There's no love loss between these two teams. The Packers. As a matter of fact, was that 86 when Charles Martin, Jim McMahon on his head and knocked him out. Good. Let me look at Jim. I think it was Charles Martin that late that cheap shot in man was just standing there. He grabbed him and boom dumped him. Yeah. I think it was Charles Martin. I think it was 86. I'm almost certain it was 86. Charles Martin cheap shot, Jim McMahon. What year was it? Ask, ask, you've got a roll of eyes on you. All I said was just look it up. And she looked it up and it was Charles Martin, chief shop, Jim and man in 1986. She'd have to roll the eyes at me like that. Oh, so you got it right? You got it right? Yeah. All the time she getting happy. And when I get the question. Don't go on the roll. You do like you work for state media, right? You supposed to be in this corner. Yeah. But, uh, there's no love loss between these two teams. They've never been in a love loss between these two teams. Right. This is Hatfield McCoy. This is Ohio State, Michigan. This is North Carolina Duke. This is Alabama, Auburn, whatever rival rivalry you can think of. That's this Baltimore Pittsburgh. This is it. Yeah. This, this is it. Uh, uh, there is no love loss between these two teams and they haven't been in a love loss between these two teams and, uh, if they can man each other, that's what it. They try. Right. But Barry says, hey, he says he wants to go out with a bang. The Packers definitely want to get a go into the playoffs on a winning note. And, uh, we'll see what happens, Ocho. Now, if time for Q and A, that time, why? Okay. Hey, time. Time go by fast. Are you having a good time now? So Clayton, uh, Lejo said you'll handle like shave. Uh, acorns. Who said man? Look at what he calls. Walnuts, Brazil nuts. Who said that? Clayton, the lejo. You lucky I can't see you boy. I'll fire you up real quick, boy. You hear me? Being ahead, boy. You lucky I can't see you. Post a picture of your face real quick. Then we get to. Triple X comes on it. It's got sanity said. Ocho got to add a lot of money to the cursing, John. And do. I ain't even. Whoa. Time. Wait a minute. I ain't even cursed tonight. Oh, yeah. Chad. You heard this man saying this man say he ain't cuz. When did. When did that. Yeah. I did that. Chad, the Ocho custom night chat. Oh, I've been, I've been well aware of everything I've said out of my mouth. And if I had cursed, I would have said, oh, my bad, my bad. Like I always do. You try to, you try to, what you call them? What you try to do is just try to keep it moving. And in fact, we heard it, but we heard it. And I even told just the Ocho. Yeah. Yeah. I might, I might have slipped up. Well, I might have back said it. You say I could get a change that Eduardo Roman Texas need to stop letting teams hang around with them for so long. That's what happens. You get an opportunity to put a team away. You need to put them away because once Arizona State got that momentum and it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much. So when you get the momentum, you got to put some distance. You see what Ohio State did Ohio State got that. Got the momentum. Go and put the game out of reach. Cameron. Shaver. I don't know what your happy holidays question from my Q and A. Do you think guys miles get or Jalen Carr possibly another piece of draft capital? Why would I, why would I trade? I mean, yeah. Actually, yeah. Filling would actually do absolutely do that. Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter for Miles Garrett. Oh. Yeah. Miles Garrett is holding 29. I don't know. I want Miles Garrett and Jalen Carter to play together. I don't want to break him up. I mean, Miles Garrett is in potential. I don't think he's going to win. The defensive player of the year, because his record doesn't reflect how just how good he's been now. My draft partner and my Hall of Fame class made rest. Just so Ted Cortez Kennedy. He won defensive player of the year on a two and 14 team. He was. He was. You a ball in there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Man. Two and 14. Two and 14. I don't think you would have to happen again. But I don't really know where they're going to go with this. The defensive player of the year. Because you got some guys. I mean, you got Hendrickson, your guy. Since that had 14. My dad had 14. They're not going to give it to him. It's not as bad as that defense being. You got Danielle Hunters playing really good. And in Minnesota, obviously TJ. It's going to be a, you know, Chris Jones had a little down year. He's been dominant, but they do a great job of double teaming him and a lot of this has been, has been the beneficiary of that. Zach Braun is played really well this year. I mean, he's been, he's been a tackle of machine. Kerry Joseph has nine, what nine interceptions, Xavier McKinney, I think has eight interceptions. I just don't know. I really don't know. Oh, Joe, where they're going to go with defensive players. Yeah. I mean, there hasn't been one clear dominant player. No, it's been dominating all season long. Everyone has been playing. You know, really well. All together, but it still hadn't been one clear person like, well, God damn, every time I've watched ESPN or I see a goddamn highlight. It's him. All of them collectively have been playing well. I guess somebody could go, you know, who might get it? Cause he's been dominant. Who? Pass or 10. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good. Hey, oh, Joe, he's been dominant. That's a good one. And he has the numbers to back up the claim. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you look at the completion percentage. Quarterbacks. What you call them? Average is against him. He's been, he's been, he's been special. Yeah. John Stewart is back at The Daily Show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics, entertainment, sports, and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the shows, correspondence, and contributors. 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What do you think about Devarti going to the Steelers? Also, should you be scared of the Bengals getting into the playoffs? I think the Bills. Who should be scared of the Bengals getting into the playoffs? I think the Bills. That's what he's saying. Man, the Steelers don't really pay a whole lot of money for free agent receivers. They like to go into the draft, get their receiver than the draft. Build that way. I can't remember. I'm trying to say, I can't remember the Steelers if ever signed a free agent receiver. Right. I mean, from the time I go back now, they normally let them leave. Yes, if they paid Mike Wallace. [INTERPOSING VOICES] I don't see Devarti going to Pittsburgh. You never say never, but I don't see that happening. With the talent money that he's going to want, we know the Steelers. They like to stay a little bit under market value when it comes to other than the quarterback. Right. I really don't see that, Ocho. What do you think? I don't know. I don't think it would happen. Juju was another one. Yeah, they did let Juju go. I don't know. I'm curious. I don't know. Everybody go and sell hives. Hives was the only way if you think about it. Yeah. He finished right there. Yeah. Hives. I mean, you go back to Louis Lips, all those guys. Oh, you're obviously just smart and stalwart. They retired. But I'm seeing what you've got past that that that Super Bowl run of guys. Hey, I'm trying to thank, man. Yeah, I don't see. I don't see him in Pittsburgh. I don't see him. I don't either. Even though I know it would be a nice fit. You know, obviously with Russell Wilson throwing to him. I just don't see it happening. Yeah. Erwin Lichtenberg. What about your thoughts on Jeremiah Smith potential in the NFL? Yeah, he's going to be nice. He's going to be nice. Listen, right now, obviously as a college player, I compared him to the Julio Jones. Even as a freshman, I mean, what we're seeing right now from him, which he's had a historic season, he's only going to get, because he's only going to get better. He's going to get bigger, going to get faster, have a better understanding of the game from my offensive standpoint, you know, getting better at man to man. You see, just polish up that route game. You know, just where he has no, what you see right now is you'd have to nitpick to find a weakness in his game right now, because he does everything really well. Everything really well. He does. People mentioned Anton Randall Ale, Anton Randall Ale went to watch the book on T ended up coming back. Right. DJ said, happy New Year. I don't know what team do y'all see? Jented fitting best with based on the draft order, I think, between Dallas Denver or Seattle. Well, he definitely needs to run it back. So you think you think he's going to keep going in the first round? Yes. I think, yeah, yeah. I mean, you see Gibbs and what he's been able to do. Right. And you see the emergence of the running back. Like Gibbs is a little different now. Yeah. He got, I mean, I'm looking at Gente. He's faster than you think. Now, he don't have four, three, three speed like Gibbs. Right. But I think he's going to clock four. I think he clocked low four, five. Okay. You see a four, five running back going into the first round. Yeah. I mean, look, the thing is, a lot of time you see they've been trying to push the running back down, which you look at the team that got him, Josh Jacobs, his team is in the play on. Uh, Saquan Barkley, his team's in the play on Kyron William for the Rams. His team is in the playoff. Uh, uh, King Henry, his team is in the playoff. Go look at your top runners. Uh, Bucky Irby, his team is in the playoff. Well, they win. They win Sunday there in the playoff. Um, for the most part, I mean, the running back has had a resurgence. Oh, Joe. Uh, and, and, and I think over the last, the last year, especially this year, I think they proved their value. I think that we've proven their value and, and, and the better ones are starting to really play up play big dividends for their, their teams. JJ Carver said, how is a ring a bigger goal than a long time record? Rings are one every year. Records are rarely both broken. I mean, you could get both. I think the thing is that sometimes people think, well, it's either either or, like, if you don't take a pay cut, uh, you can't win a Super Bowl. Well, if you don't, if you don't do this, you can't, you can't win a champion. That's not true. Right. That's not true. Um, I would love to see. to say quan break that record. But it seems like the Eagles and the brass from Jeffrey Lori, how it rose from the general manager, Jeffrey Lewis, the owner, obviously, uh, Nick Sariani, it seems to me they've made the decision. And, uh, say quan says he's a piece with it. I don't know, but he's putting on a brave face. Um, but they have to break me off. I came back. I can't believe it. I can't believe it for for it to be that close to a milestone. Just be the all time. I just don't understand it. I agree. Robert Gomez, Happy New Year's guys fans since day one, my wife and I just celebrated our 21st wedding at a birthday. Can you give my wife Yasmin G and I shout out my 42nd birthday is in January, January 4th. Bro, that man been married half his life. He got married when he was 21 and he's still currently married. Hell yeah, Robert. Congratulations man to you and Yasmin man. Happy birthday, happy wedding, whatever, whatever you want us to wish, bro. Congratulations for you to be married half your life at such a young age. Now, obviously, Oh, you know what I'm saying? I mean, he's 42. He got married a young young man. Grassing grassing grass. I mean, you got married like the more like my grandparents got married. They got married. You know, they got married back then 17 and 18. Yeah. God, hey, it wasn't that a she get pregnant. Oh, you got old you, man. And you go down into the co-op got your look, you know, got your little $15 rain, go round out to the co-op and did that. It wasn't it wasn't a wedding. No, no big extravagant. Her parents stand stood next to her. Your parents stood next to you. Okay, y'all married. Okay, bring it out. London deal. Can I get a prayer for my grandpa? He suffered a heart attack today. He's okay. Him and my grandma were celebrating 32 years of marriage. Yes, London, but I'm sorry to hear about that. Boston prayers go out to London deal and his family, his grandpa suffered a heart attack today. But he says he's he's doing well. He's a good spirit. And the grandma was celebrating 32 years of marriage. So congratulations on the marriage. And, you know, the nightcap crew is praying for a speedy recovery for your grandfather. Leonardo Rose, Happy New Year, nightcap. I'll get on show. What's your New Year's resolution? I want to thank you guys for the extra push. I've lost 10 pounds. So far started a new career in education field. Thanks. You got love you guys. What's your resolution, don't you? We're back real. Huh? I hear what you're saying. What you're saying? I said, I said, I went back and I was whispering it. I said that. Go ahead. I mean, why was this? I mean, my new is resolution is stop, stop cursing. This year that that lasted about 22 minutes. This year, I want to I want to add about 30 more jobs to what I already have. And that's pretty much it. I mean, I have to discipline in all other areas to continue doing the way I'm doing this and just just stay focused and locked in. Stay focused. Stay focused. Ain't chasing the lies. I'm going to let people whatever they say, that's good with me. I know who I am. I know what I am. It's not what they call you. It's what you ask that you want, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, but I'm going to get the last laugh in the end. It'll be mad. But it'll be okay. But I think the people that that sincerely support you and I, Nightcap Club Shae Shae, they're genuinely happy for us, for me, for you and what you do outside of a nightcap. And those that aren't, they'll keep trying to bring up stuff and try to do all this other stuff, but it's not going to work. I think that's that's one of the things and, uh, I got to find more time. I got to find more time to do stuff for Shannon. Yeah, like we need to go to the DR, me, you and Brian clapping for that. Hey, I'm gonna take me a little bit. I'm gonna take me a little minute, make three day vacation. Here we go. Don't call me. Here we go. We'll call me. Let me go on. We'll be going. Don't tell me. Don't be talking about, uh, balls will, uh, what's up with you. Don't worry about what I'm coming back. I'm gonna do my portion of the show over the phone. As don't call me talking about, uh, with, uh, I want something to run by you. No, no, I'm on vacation to run nothing by me. Jada, are you guys proud of my book? I started my New Year's resolution. What do you think can happen first? I lose 30 pounds, or I'll get the two T and see you in, uh, Nola. I'm trying to lose 30. The funny thing about it, by the time we get into Orleans, I'll probably be about two, 15. That ain't happening. All right. You'll see. Now you, and you can't even see it. Look, look, just looking at the camera real quick. Look how goddamn big I am or better, man. Like, I done got so big. My head looked like it don't belong on my body. You hear me? I'm looking at them off. They don't like they belong on your body either. Yeah, they don't. That's how big I done got. No, it looks like you should be holding a sign. Gold bingles. What we did, bro? What we did to them? Oh, never mind. I ain't even gonna bring that up. Oh, babe. Hold on. Y'all do realize y'all had to go to overtime with a rookie quarterback, right? Okay. That doesn't let the ojos. Let's see. Now, I want you to remember that. Don't let the Steelers beat you. Don't let the Steelers win this game. You're not telling you we was gonna win that game. I told you that already, right? And don't, boy. And when the Broncos beat them, when the Broncos beat you, well, Carson went for the mob to flow with y'all. Man, stop playing. Okay. Okay. Nick Marr said Mr. Anken Ocho. Okay. Wait to see y'all. No love. We could use some thought and prayer for tonight. That would be a beat and greet ticket can explain what was involved in that lead. Thanks for all you do. Get to sit in the front row, likely get a call to the stage, get to be Ocho and after the show, take a picture. Nick, thank you, bro. Appreciate the support. Yes. Yes. There's a lot going on in New Orleans right now. Don't know if you're referencing that. We had a little at the stop of the show, but maybe you have something a little bit more personal that's a little close to the home that's personal to you. So we look forward to seeing you in Nola and we can't wait to have you there with everybody else. But yes, there's a lot going on currently right now in New Orleans and I've found some praises with everyone that's impacted by that situation. Ocho, that concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank everybody for tuning in and joining us. As two teams advanced to the semifinals, we watched the Ohio State Buckeyes beat the Oregon Ducks, the number one Oregon Ducks 41-21 and we watched the number five Texas Longhorns take down the number four ASU Sun Devils, 39-31. Y'all know me. I'm your favorite up, Shannon Sharp, that Liberty City legend, bingo ring of fame on a re-Pro Bowl or all pro, if Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson, please hit that subscribe button. 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