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So why don't you play me? I played you. Okay, we started the game with what I started. Then you come in, you closed the quarter. Okay. But it was your group that got us back into the game. But do you not see my highlights? No, I have. Yes! I'm not, it's just better than everybody owned that was on that whole court. Yeah, yeah, you have some good highlights. So now I feel very, very comfortable when you come back. Thank you. Giving you more quality minutes. That's all. That's all. 16 minutes. Okay, I like that right there. I'll take that. 16 minutes. 16 minutes. How you doing, man? I'm doing great, man. You want to talk? You too? I don't water 'cause like... Okay. I drove here so... Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me tell you some water. Congrats, bro. Bro. I've been doing great though. I've been doing great though. How you been, man? I've been good. I've been good. You know, life has been great. Life is great. Just taking it in, just enjoying it as I go on and just, you know, just living like... You grew up in the Bronx, New York. What do you remember most about growing up in the Bronx? Growing up in the Bronx, I remember... Oh my God. With the fun times? It was fun, it was also like that, like, down in terms of like... Like my family being able to do certain things and like... And I just, I just have like a lot of childhood friends that I'm still for. It was today, I still can remember. But like in the Bronx, I feel like it was the perfect place for me to grow up at though. Okay. When I look at all the famous people, Cardi B, Fat Joe, J-Lo, Mary J, KRS1, Ice Spice, Swizz Beat, French in Montana, Big Pun, Remy Ma, Biggie with the hoodie, Slick Rick. Were you familiar with all those people when you were growing up in the Bronx? Yes, yes, yes. To this day, I bump a boogie. He's my favorite artist. Still is. We feel what I'm saying from the Bronx and just that when I was going up in the Bronx. Like New York, New York is different because like New Yorkers can really relate to it. Correct. You know what I'm saying? And like they'll say things in certain songs that's just, that's just New York related that only New Yorkers can take in and get it. And it's just some more up-tempo vibe. Knowing all those people were from the very community that you were growing up in. Was that motivation for you to say like, you know what? Look at what they're doing. Look at what they became. I can do that. Maybe not so much in the music industry, but I can choose a profession and I can be just as famous as though. Yeah, it was definitely, it just looked so good in terms of like them representing the city. You feel what I'm saying? What I'm saying and being a voice for the city. You know like not the possible for Brooklyn, but like New York. We look at New York as one unit. Like the city itself. Like anybody who come out of it is just like it's fine. And it's tough. It's really tough to make out of New York because everybody would think it's like can I curse? Yeah. Oh, it's like Dick Rodden or somebody. Right. Like when you feel me or like not, you got to like someone support to somebody out of New York. It's like. Yeah, they call it meat ride. You feel what I'm saying? You meet riders. So it's like, nah, like so when they do go crazy, it's fire. Somehow you leave the Bronx and you end up in Georgia, but you end up in a homeless here. How did you end up in Georgia and how did you end up in a homeless? Yeah. So when I was younger, like it's way younger. My mom, she had four kids. My little brother, my little brother dad was very in his life. So like he had like both parents, but the three of us really had him. My mom and my mom was like struggling on her own and stuff. It was a lot of tough times and we had to be in the shelter for quite some time. I'm in Georgia coming from New York. That was like, it was like weird, but like you feel me? We was there. I remember like bits and parts. She has like the shelter sheets that she still has at her house. Just like remember like certain things and all that. But it was definitely weird. When you were in there, what was what? I mean, did you think anything like it? Man, we left Brooklyn and left all. I mean, excuse me, you left the Bronx. I got all my friends there and we come to Georgia and we're in a homeless shelter. No, I didn't even know. You didn't really know what it was. Yeah, at the time, I didn't even know it was in Georgia. Okay. Like we must have hopped on like a bus or something. Correct. But like at the time, I didn't know we was in Georgia and I didn't, I was just going with the flow. You feel what I'm saying? Like wherever my mom went, I was just going. Right. It was me, my twin sister and my older brother. And whenever she went, we just went. Seeing that you've become so successful, Kai. And there are a lot of people that, a lot of young people that's going through things right now and some might be in a shelter. What kind of advice would you like to give those people that says no matter how tough the situation may be, sunshine follows, right? Oh, yeah. No, yeah. No cap. This is like my mom. I would say like keep family close and never forget like the small things in your life that happened because my mom is literally like a superhero with times where I don't know. Like I don't even know how she was able to make sure that we was able to like get through some nights and get through days because I know it was definitely hard. I would definitely say keep your head up, keep God close because a lot of things in the world is definitely a lot of things that goes on in life happens for a reason. You feel what I'm saying? And it only builds character in the storyline. So like whenever, whenever people is struggling, it's never, it's never too late. You mentioned that it's for you guys. You have a twin sister, you have two younger brothers, right? Older brother and younger brother. Older brother and younger brother. How tough was that on your mom to try to raise four young kids? Obviously, you say your youngest brother, his dad was in his life, but how difficult was that on your mom knowing that you see her go to work and she's struggling, trying to make ends meet to make sure you guys have the best of what she can afford. Yeah, it was very difficult, you know, and my mom, she, she just never gave up on us like, you feel what I'm saying? Anything could have happened. She could have, she could have even quit on us and like, you know, things could always be worse. But my mom, it was definitely hard, like there was some, like we had to like, it was so much time where she had to find food or like not only like so, like she always like, make, make sure we cook this stuff, but like even like, us, even simply, we just wanted like McDonald's or something and like, and she couldn't get it. You feel me? Or like us, one of certain clothes, she couldn't get it. You feel me? And we just had to live with that. And that it was definitely hard. You feel me? She was by herself. And I don't know how to do it. I think it's her this day. Do you have a relationship with your father? I do. I do. I was just with him. Actually, um, I was just going to yesterday, first, the first Christmas I ever had with my, my pops. Wow. Yeah. So what was that like? It was fine. It was good because like, I have my whole family there and like, I, I understand when I was younger, I, when I was younger, I used to be so hard on my pops. I didn't like want to like talk to him when I like that. My sister was very close with him. But as I got older, it's like, I'm mature and I realize like damn like, even though there's like no excuse for, for, for a man, yeah, for a man not to be there. It's just more of a like, I've grown older to accept the fact and forgive, like, I don't know what was going on in time and it's like, I don't know what was going on. I don't know how stressed he was. I don't know how anything was. So when I did spend the Christmas with him, he was very happy and like, now I'm able to provide for my family, you feel me? And he has kids, he has kids with somebody else and the, his little kids remind me of like me and my brothers when he was going up. So I just want to be able to be able to help my pops out so that he can give, give those kids what he can give you. Yeah. You feel me? Yeah. So it's just an amazing feeling. I was just with one of his, his son yesterday and I met him for the first time and he loves all my stuff. So it was like that, like, I got to see, I got to see him and I just want, I just want the best for my, my pops right now so that he can give them the life, you know, that I, that I always wanted. Did your step brothers know that your dad, that your father and it was your dad also? That's so. Yeah, so they, they knew, they at first, like, um, he called me and after they, uh, it was one day I met them on FaceTime, but he goes back into his friends, yo, yo, yo, cah, yo, cah, yo, cah, my step brother, cah, my step brother, cah, my brother, and nobody believed him. And then like, what he always calls me and like he remind, he, his name is better than he reminds me of like me when I was younger, like for real for real. So like it was, it was just so far like he was a, he's a big supporter of mine and when he found out he was going crazy. Right. Yeah. I've talked to people that a parent was not in their life when they were younger. And when they finally get an opportunity to talk to that parent, there's like, look, I'm not trying to go back and get the time that was lost. I'm trying to start right here and move forward. Right. Is that how you feel? Right. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. That's how I feel. Cause like, um, it's like, it's nothing, it's nothing I can do to get that time back and get back with loss. Yeah. It's already happened. And it's like why, why like grieve on it when you could build a connection right now. You feel what I'm saying? Like as he's, he's, um, as we're getting older and stuff and like, I could just tell that like now it's, it's, it's on some where I could like build a general connection. I could text him. I could call him. And plus what I respect so much about him is like, even when I did take off with a lot of my success, like he never, he never played a role in like asking me for anything or like a role of like, trying to be sneaky and like, try to like, um, be like, Hey, never put like, Hey, I'll be a dad card, like none of that. So, um, it, I have gotten to that point where I have matured and if it's a good feeling too. Yeah. Like when you get over something, it's like, and you can move forward with it. It's just a wonderful feeling. So you, you've forgiven your father for not being there because, you know, I tell people all the time, forgiveness is not for your fathers for you because you have to let that burden go. Right. And you've since you've been able to do that, what, what a relief has that, what kind of relief have that given you? Hey, it gave me a great relief, like, it's, like, it's, it's so critical yesterday when I was spending time with him, it was like, um, it was like, damn, like, we, I'm actually like joking with my pops, like, I'm actually like laughing and joking around and he may not know, like, too much of what I like or what I'm into personally, but he's able to learn now. You feel what I'm saying? And like, you were able to have that connection, but it feels amazing though, because like, I've always seen other, when I was growing up, I was seeing kids with both parents, like, you know, when somebody has a good dad next to them and they, they learned certain things and stuff. I was, I was ready to my mom. So it was like, you feel me? It was like, it's, it's so different. It's a good feeling. My step pops are there for me a lot though. Yeah. So was that, was that your first Christmas that you could remember with your dad? First Christmas and my birthday to some 16. So like, it was like first, like, happy birthday. I don't know. I don't visually remember. Okay. 100% though. First Christmas. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. What kind of student were you in school? How was school? How were you in school? Oh, man. Class clown. Oh my gosh. I used to mess around all the time. I'll probably go to the section like, and I'm at your school terrible, like I was a bad kid. I used to get calls home every time, middle school. I think like sixth grade, bad, seventh grade, bad, and then eighth grade, I got my stuff together. Like, I got, I started to like realize like, okay, I'm in school and represent my mom. And then after high school, the ninth grade was okay, 10th grade, terrible. Like, I did not care about no work, I didn't want to do no work. I wasn't locked and I wasn't focused. And in 11th grade, it was okay, 12th grade. I rounded up. Got it together. You feel me? But I was, I was, I was always just like joking around now. So did you spend, I mean, how much time did you spend in New York and how much time did you spend in Georgia? Or with the majority of your school life in New York and then? So, yeah, so from, from, from one of the New York, so I started to finish, I probably like left, I moved to Georgia when I was 19. Okay. 19 or 18. Okay. So all your, so all your school was New York. Yeah. All New York. Everything was New York. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I just, I just, you moved to Georgia probably like, um, it's been like, since I've been living in Georgia, probably like, like, like, for going on five years, going on four. Okay. Yeah. Um, were you popular with the girls in school? Nah. I wasn't, I wasn't, I was, like, I was cool, like, on a friend level, but like, I was like scared to talk to anybody and stuff like that. Were you good in sports? Hell no. This is like, it's crazy. This is like, it's crazy. Cause I wasn't good academically. Okay. Right. I wasn't good in sports. Like, I tried out for the basketball team one time. They kept, they called like 10 trials that game. Like it was bad. Like, I was just never an athletic type, um, I wasn't good at like, no, like robotics. I wasn't good at a lot of stuff. Like, I really love like being in front of the camera and like, and like watching like YouTube. Okay. And, and playing like games. Right. So it would be games in front of the camera and YouTube. Oh. That was me. So like, I wasn't going, I wasn't in those sports and I actually hate it. I hate it athletes in my high school girls, like, damn, like, why am I not athletic? Like everybody. They got the girl. They got, everybody got varsity jackets. Yeah. They got the lacrosse sticks. They got the, um, they got the, they got the, they come in with the football helmets. Yeah. Baseball bats. Yeah. One in track. Like, I'm like, damn. So like, in middle school, I was like the water boy for like, um, my basketball team. Yeah. I wanted to be involved in something. But I'll, but like, they just say, hey, just cut, just cut, just cut. You weren't good at school. You didn't play sport with them. You just didn't daycare. You just, you, you didn't just go in the water. I was literally, you feel what I'm saying? Like nobody, my mom never got like forced me into the, he never forced me into sports. Did your dad play sports? Did your mom play sports? Did anybody in your face? My dad is not athletic. But he got his jeans handed down like, mom, I think she, the most she did was like volleyball. Okay. But like, it was like barely, like she always like, um, she was big on like cameras, like taking pictures and stuff. TD, Teddy, taking it to the house, reservations for six, whatever you call a touchdown. One thing's for sure. Touchdowns matter more at draft King sports book and official sports betting partner of the NFL on the ground in the air from the special teams or the defense. We don't care how you score them. 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And every day I'm going to upload three skits, because I started doing, I did skits first, and I went to YouTube. When I went to college, I was trying to balance them out, I would literally like edit on my laptop, I learned how to edit on my laptop on the videos, and when I was like one minute until I had to start class, I would run across the campus, get to my class, enjoy it. I didn't really like the learning part of it, but then COVID hit, they had made an announcement like, everybody got to go. And I was like, what? And after I went home? You seem very pleased about that, that this show, but I was recording and college was my content. So like I was doing a whole bunch of stuff, I see my friends, I was recording the videos, and then he's had a goal. So like now I'm like, oh damn, what am I going to do? But I had dropped out, but I told my mom, they want me to do online work. I told my mom, I said, I ain't going to lie, I can't do online work. So like if I might not want to go back, and she was like, hey, if you could do what you can, can you do it and just show that you're getting money or like some type of proof of something going on? Right. I'm going to go with it. Yeah, she's going. So she was never restricted. She was always supportive. Right. Yeah. What's college? Oh, you know, I'm listening to you talking, you say you weren't back, you know, you wanted to be a class clown, you weren't very good in athletics. Did you go to college because that's what your mom wanted to do? Or did you go to college because that's what you wanted? No, I wanted to go to college. Okay, you wanted to go to college. Yeah, I wanted to go to college. Yeah, I wanted to because in New York, everybody. So in New York, it's so different because we don't have no other people who we can't drive a car, we take a train, we take buses, we're in buildings with our families, it's kind of hard to get, live on your own so early and stuff like that. So the thought of going up state and going to college in your own space, I share the room with my little brother for 18, 17 years, the whole time me and my little brother, we had a share room, twin beds, so the first time going to college, I was like, oh yeah, I'm out. I got to go see what this is about. And it was fired on. Show you a little bit of how you live on your own. Right. So, yeah. You mentioned that when COVID hit, you were always doing videos even before COVID hit. Is that when COVID hit and you're doing your videos, is that made you realize that you know what, what I'm doing in college is really not what I really, really want to do. I got another passion that I don't know if I can, I can complete. If I'm going to school, spending my time on this because when I tell people, kind, you can attest to this as a content creator, that's all you do. You don't do anything. You ain't got another job content creating is your job. Yeah. So when I, when I did drop out, I knew, I automatically knew I didn't want to go back. It was crazy. Like I had got, I automatically knew I didn't want to go back and I was also like trying to already just brainstorm in different videos. Okay. So I was restricted so my mom didn't let me like record in the house. Okay. But my friends and stuff, it was COVID. So, and then we want to do that do outside in the car. Right. So that's how to do these car videos and just stacking from there and just like just pushing out as much stuff because everybody's at home chilling and just waiting. You make, you said you were doing like prank videos. You want to be a comedian. Do you want to be a comedian? I mean, what? No, I want to do, I want it to, I want it to, I just skits at first. Right. So I want to do funny skits or something in Atlanta acting. Okay. Let's do that. Right. Yeah. Cab, but the pranks, man, man, people take, y'all take, they would take any pranks too far in that car. No. Somebody go get hurt. No, yeah. I stopped. Yeah. I stopped. I didn't prank. I didn't prank. It was one point of time. I did like wired up like 2021. I was going around doing these wired up pranks, but mine was never too extreme. Right. But the only, the, the only extreme prank that I did was I, I did like something where I took money from a tip jar and then paid them like a crazy, another crazy amount when I just paid them a crazy amount as a prank. But people, people dumbed down on me on that and I was like, oh yeah. Like that is extreme. Right. At the time, I didn't see, I was like, damn, I'm giving them money though. Why is it extreme? But I ultimately got to realize like that was kind of crazy. Right. You feel me? Right. So I just understood that that was me. I ain't want to do no more pranks unless it was like all my friends and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You feel me? Pranking friends is one thing for pranking a stranger because everybody don't play like you play. True. Yeah. Did your mom give you a time limit in which she said, okay, Kai, this needs to work by ex or you're going to have to, you know, go back to school. Never. Never. She always supported me. She always was there behind me. She still is. She always makes sure that she's better positive light on me when it came to the videos and stuff. Kai, when did you find your voice? When did you find out, says, you know what? This is it. This is what I'm good at. Yeah. Um, I'll probably say, was it freshman year? I think like freshman year or sophomore year, I had posted a skit on Facebook when you get like a thousand likes at the time. It was crazy. Yeah. So I knew like it was crazy, but locally my skits were like, and this is for people that know that lived in the Bronx locally, my skits was like started like picked up a lot of attention. And I was like, okay, hold on. I can actually do something, but the skits wasn't putting out a lifestyle for me in terms of like, um, like what I wanted to really, really do. And then I went from the skits and I went to, uh, YouTube, I started doing YouTube and in college, I just had to do ding dong ditch in college, um, and like the hallways and stuff. I did one, I posted it the next day. I woke up to like 25,000 views, which is crazy. So I'm like, what the hell? It's fun to speak. Walk with the next day. It was at like a hundred thousand. And I just spam that and every time I dropped the new one, it's the, it's finally started to hit like a million, a million. It was like hitting a million views and I had like, um, flight was the first person, flight reactions, um, YouTube where he was the first person to react to my, um, to my ding dong ditch thing. And why I was in college. 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I did the YouTube and I noticed like I was not, how do I explain this? Like, damn, I noticed, but I was doing the YouTube. It was cool, but I would see like, I had a good friend. I had my friends at AMP, my group at AMP, and I had a good friend named Phantom and his people really loved him on his YouTube and stuff like that. And I seen it and I was like, damn, like he got like a real base, you feel me? Yes. And like, it was cool. I was making, I was making some money, I was getting a good amount of money on YouTube. But then I started in 2021 was when I started streaming and I had what a PC and it was out from there. You mentioned the AMP, and it means possible, that's the group that kind of discovered like your videos and you kind of joined that. So is this a group and so I'm helping me because I'm not really familiar with the gaming space and how this thing works. So, AMP, they like, they discover you, did you reach out to them or did you reach out? No, so he started with Alfred of Bronx and another member named Phantom. He's also from the Bronx too. And I'm assuming that he had just seen my stuff. So that after we ended up, I mean, had a good, great time and after we, he loaned fast forward a little bit. We had like a good connection and he was just like, he was at a vision of like, yeah, bro, I feel like you, you definitely got like, he's seen I was like, very hungry. Right. And this is before I started streaming and he's like, this, you see, I'm very hungry. He said, look, come to Atlanta, I got these people I want you to meet and then see how it is. Now, I already knew AMP before I met them. Okay. So you were familiar with that. I was really familiar with them, but they was already, they already had their own thing going on. Like agent, um, agent Duke Davis, they started for a 2K and they already built like a million plus subscribers off that just off 2K playing the video game. Then Chris, he was a great editor, like Chris next door, um, he was the editor. He wasn't even a member yet, but he was the editor of the channel and I, and if it wasn't for him, like a lot of those videos and a lot of AMP, AMP would not be what it is. He was like behind the keyboard and stuff. Then Phantom, he was, um, he's from the Bronx, but he was, he was doing 2K at first. And then he was like, he was like, nah, I'm gonna stop doing this. I want to do IRL stuff. So he was vlogging and his vlog was lit. So like he already had a good, he had a good fan base. He had a good following. They all came together, it was, it was just for them at first, it was Duke Phantom, agent Chris. Then when I went to go link, uh, he got Chris out there and me. So then after I went, so we driving in the car, then we driving in Atlanta. So you drove from New York to Atlanta? No. I flew. I flew. So like, I'm hyped as hell when you get in a plane, you hype me like that. I got a great outfit on. I'm just ready to go. So I'm over here in the plane, being Phantom, um, in it, and after, um, we land and then he, uh, we get the car with the rental at the time, we got the car. So when we got in the car, we driving, we driving in Atlanta for the first time. I'm looking around like, Dan, this is crazy, like airport, big as hell. Then we got to like agents, um, neighborhood, and then man, I mean, it's never, I would never, I would never, I always say this, I'll never forget it. I mean, I'm looking at the, I look out the window and these houses. Big houses. Now look, I ain't never really see big houses in the frog. You look at it. I'm looking at this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm over here, like, look out the window. I'm like, yo, these houses are huge. Like I'm talking about like some good, good quality homes and we pull up in front of this, this house is a nice house and a Phantom, but Phantom's moving as if like, you don't care. Like he done did this so many times. So I'm like, damn, how you like so like chill, whole time, I'm like getting ready. And I already know these people, because of their videos, like that, I've already watched their 2K videos and stuff. So you pull up to the house, you pull up to the driveway, you go to the steps, you knock on the door, agent open it or agent opens the door, and he's like, he just woke up and I'm looking and I'm like, nah, and I seen his YouTube plaques and I never seen a YouTube plaque before. And look at these, he's like, yo, this is crazy. And then, long story short, they took me to a shoot, Phantom took me to a shoot. He just said, I was quiet at first. It was filming, it was filming. I was very quiet at first. And then Phantom pulled me aside, he was like, bro, why are you so quiet? I was a little nervous. He was like, be yourself. And I just started being myself in the playing basketball game and I was the hype. I was the energy. Then they did another video. Everybody had loss and nobody in the person with the punishment has to jump into a local mall outside of what to find. And nobody wanted to do it. Like nobody wanted to do it at all, even the people that lost, they didn't want to do it. And I was like, yeah, I don't want to jump into a water fountain. Like I'll do it. Like I was the one willing to do a whole bunch of crazy stuff. So like I jumped in there and it was like, nah, he's good. After that, we wound out. It was like 3 AM and we having good conversations about like life and stuff. And then he was like, and then after Asian came to me, he was like, yo, how are you feeling about AMP? And at the time, I'm like, I had, I met a Phantom, I was like, damn, I don't want to mess up your chemistry. Like it's so good. Like, yeah, I have great chemistry going to come when we are together. So I don't want to get added to it and I don't want to mess up enough. And they were like, nah, they took the chance on me because Duke didn't even like me when he first met me. Like the, it's just a random person being vouched by Phantom, somebody else in the group. And I'm being vouched, but like, you don't know this person, like you're not sure. So they took the chance on me and like we became a group. And that's how I'm forever thankful for all of them. Like those, those like family, they're like family to one of them. Do you think you could have become what you become now? Obviously, you have, you're extremely talented, you do what you do. But what was some of the benefits that you think of joining the group? Oh man, it was, it was, it was good. It was, it was, cause we have bought a house together. We're not bought one. We was renting a house together. Okay. The first thing. And that's big. I never had my own room. Okay. I never had my own space. Right. My mom is not here. Like I can do, I'm on my own. Like I'm being this lit house together like a good house. Right. I'm all here grinding and that was massive for me because I was able to have my own creative space. I have my own space to grow up and mature a little bit. Also they, it's like they, they had a huge platform. I had my own like little community, but they had a huge platform and they put me on the stage and I just displayed my talent. And that's huge. You feel what I'm saying? Cause that support base was very solid. So I'm, I'll be so thankful for it. Cause like, I know, I, I feel like I still would, I wouldn't be where I'm at for today, and then just, it would have just took a little long. Yeah. You feel me? You just sped up the process. Yeah. I just sped up the process. Yeah. For sure. Do you believe this was the best decision of your career? One hundred percent. One hundred percent. Like I've learned so much from them. Um, I've grown to like actually have brothers. Um, I could close my eyes and, and, and I could literally close my eyes and I trust them with anything. I go to them. I talked about them about life. Um, they talked to me about life and I love them so much. Like without, without them, it's like, like, I start just like, if I'm not, if I'm not very away from each other for too long, it's like, I can feel that we away from too long. Like those really my brothers for sure. Did they help you understand the business model of social media? Because there's a lot, people just say, okay, I'm just got a camera. I got a microphone. I'm going to do X, Y, and Z. But there's a lot more to it. There's that. I need that advice. So I go to agent, like agent has good financial advice. Um, but for the most part, I actually learned a lot about myself. Okay. Yeah. For sure. You feel comfortable being it by yourself, huh? Yeah. So do you have to sign a contract or the verbal agreement or you sign a contract that you wear them? I mean, how to, it was, it was, it was, it was literally like, it was just, it was just like this. No, like we're not, it was no contract. It's just like literally us talking about, um, how everything is supposed to go and we literally agreed on it like, um, I would just more, I'm more, was in it for like, just like the experience and stuff, but like this, it was, everything was very like, we don't even look at like a lot of that stuff. A lot of it was built off like just strictly friendship. It was no contract. It was nothing sketchy. And that's why I already loved it because it was like, it was just perfect. Right. Yeah. And, uh, so how was it like, because like you said, you grew up with your family, you're very close to your family, it was your mom and your siblings. Now there's no mom and there are no siblings, these are total strangers. You have your own space. Uh, obviously I'm thinking there's probably a lot of going out to eat a lot of people ordering food in cause everybody could be, nobody could be, we couldn't, we couldn't get any, we didn't have no chef at the time. Um, he's all of my own. So we was door-dashing Uber Eats Kings. Um, but yeah, that's how it was like literally like, but we, we were, I'm waking up and everybody waking up like we all, but we, it's like six people with the same mindset. So we all understand what's going on. Like, hey, what video are you working on today? Oh, I bet. What video are you working on today? Oh, I bet. And we have our own group channel. So we're all planning out videos. Now we're together instead of having to do online meetings, we're together and we're able to plan out these, these, these videos. So that's, that's, that's what made it even better. Do you grind? Did you guys, do you guys prank each other now? Oh, we still do it. It's crazy. We, um, the whole firework in the, the whole fireworks in the house, we were the first people to just like fireworks in the house, um, it's everywhere for July. We blow up the house even crazier and crazier. Um, Duke used to prank me, try to, you, you had like fake pair of sneakers and burn them, make me think they were real. We prank each other all the time, like literally. You do realize that, uh, the problem, you're not going to get that, uh, that deposit back, right? For that. That mentioned that y'all know, the people, y'all know, met the people at house, let's meet you about for what? No, yeah. The, the, the, the first, the first, the first house, he was violent because he was wrenching that. Yeah. Yeah. The part that y'all put down, y'all didn't get it. Yeah. It was, it was over. Yeah. A lot of, we, we, we live, we risk a lot. But it was worth it though. Like the supporters was set, the supporters was entertained. Like it was fire. Like we woke up, we were going to sleep. So like hype and it wake up like on our tippy toes. Like it was fun. It's, it's so fun and it still is. Do, um, did people find out where you guys lived and you had unwanted gas people show up? Oh yeah. Oh my God. Hell yeah. Like even our first house. Um, yes. It was as bad as today, but now it's like, it's crazy. We got to talk to the security guys. Oh, do you? Yeah. Your neighbors. Do your neighbors, when you got, when you moved in, did your neighbors knew who you were? Currently. Yeah. Order on my first house. Your first, either one. Okay. So first one, they didn't know who he was. Yeah. They had, I remember, um, I have bought my car out of, my, my first car, an MGGT53. And everybody had these nice, like everybody cars was pretty nice at the time. Right. And this is rolling in. You know, white neighborhood. Yeah. It's just like six black kids in this big ass house. Cars coming in, they loud as shit. Speaking of backyard loud as shit, you filming these videos, it's, it's just so loud. Um, we actually had a note one time, I would never forget it. This note came in our door and it said, um, I forgot what it said, but it, it was along the lines of like, they know they said that we know there's this drugs and like cocaine coming inside of here and like they know that like, we got to be selling drugs or something. Right. So they had a lot, they had corner cops, they wrote a note in the, to the cops and the note brought it to us and the cops brought it to us and then they read it. It was online. It was, oh yeah. They got drugs, fancy cars, there's got to be something that's got to go on there. And I'm like, oh my God, there was one time I had, there was kids who angry and had gave them a gift basket and they were upset about it. It's like, I was over recorded and they were upset about it and they said, I was like, I'll be broken five years and stuff like that. Right. And it was crazy. Yeah. So what about your neighbors hated us? What about now? We don't got no neighbors. Oh, okay. Like, yeah, the way our thing is set up, we have the best, I think we have the best view in, um, in Georgia, like literally the best view we can see Atlanta. We can see the whole sky view, um, um, but we don't got any neighbors, so we can do crazy stuff. Um, I read that, uh, and I don't know if this is true, that you guys got evicted from your in New York. Well, yeah. Yeah. We got evicted in like three days. Wow. Okay. So here's my theory. Okay. Give me the theory. We got, so the guy was selling that, that spot, yes, we ended up was able to tell them that we'll rent it and like we got to where we're going to be able to move in. I think he knew who we were. He had us do a whole rollout, like shoulder crib, strata stream there and it like five days in, he said, now you got to go and we didn't even do nothing like this time. We literally knew the precautions to make the part, the limit to go. We did not even do nothing. And I feel like as soon as like we displayed it and stuff like that gave a nice tour, like people got interested in it. I don't know if it's sold, but like he got us out of the ACE app, they had to switch. That was the worst experience as a group. I'm not gonna lie. In terms of like a stream mate, like at the time, streaming every couldn't like that's my home base. Like I don't have mad because you should have had a riot there and all that other stuff. People knew exactly where we was and it was getting crazy like for real. Where do you like living better, New York or Georgia? Living Georgia for sure. But like in terms of like city life and like family and stuff, New York 100% for 100%, like literally, I like Atlanta, it has great property. You can get into like a lot of good, you can find a lot of good houses. You can actually drive your cars out here. You can live a low key, you can be very low key out here. New York, it's kind of tough for me right now because like everything is so fast. There's so many people everywhere and like anywhere like you post or anything, they know who you are. They don't pull up. Yeah, they know where you at. It's kind of hard. But like in terms of like the people around it, I love New York. What made you take your talents to Twitch? Twitch. Because you say you originally started on YouTube? Yeah, I did. But like Shiman was like, in my opinion, Shiman is kind of like, it's so hard to build on YouTube. Like speed was, in my opinion, speed is like the only one I can see. There's a lot more than but speed is like by far like, that's his own, that's his whole playground, like YouTube's his own playground. And I'm not going to lie, Twitch was just cool at the time. I just, I just see the whole bunch of like streamers read to AMP content like rage, I'm a whole your rage, who else I seen flight, I've seen a whole bunch of streamers reacting to it. And I was like, damn, Twitch is lit because like, everybody's watching it, but I also grew up watching Twitch too. I've seen a lot of streamers shout out Summit 1G, Summit 1G was like somebody I watched, I watched Ninja, when I was on it and like, but like, there was a lot of cool people that was streaming on it. So a lot of people. Right. A lot of people. Yes. Because I remember trying to, I was trying to do something on Twitch. We were like, nah, it's not streaming, not streaming. You like, like watch, it kind of like the man in CAS where you watch the game and then you know, you talk like that, but it was a lot of you trying to get the kinks out of it at the time. Yeah. And so clearly you guys have got that rectified over there. Yeah. So you guys. So you'll be on YouTube too. Yeah. Yeah. You're just fired. I like the way y'all do y'all fine. I appreciate that man. Appreciate it. Let me ask you this. Like, because like all day you'll love me, not all day, but you're on your streaming and you like, you come up with this platform. It's like, you know what? I think people will play for subscription. I think they'll pay X, Y, Z to watch me do this. How do you, how do you, what made you think of that? Well, which I really have is subscriptions thing and like, you just, when you buy it, you can no ads. So like, there's no commercial breaks. You can watch the streamer for as long as you want. Right. It'd be good for a whole month. And then after like, I had this idea, I just want to do 30 day. I just want to, somebody had a world record at the time for subs. They would love to make did. And I personally, without a sub-a-thon, I had hit 100,000 subs. And like, people were speaking so supportive, I had to get, I had to drag through like a lot of like, communities, people thought I was money laundering, people thought it was like, I was doing something behind the scenes that was sketchy, but not, I was literally just sitting there. I was getting like, 10,000 subs every stream. Wow. I was just sitting there and we back to back days too. So I'll come back, 10,000 go off, it'll be 20, 30, I started posting my picture every time, 40, 60. And I did a 24 hour, just to prove people wrong about like, how, what they saying about me. And we ended up closing it out on a 100,000, like literally live and everybody loved it. And I was like, damn, like, we should do this for a month, straight. And after I did it for a month. So that's what gave you the idea of the thorns. Yeah, mafia thorns. Yeah. Cause it was originally called a sabaton. Right. And like, cause it was like a marathon. Right. But I, I had put mafia thorns on behind it. Who the first to live to make an appearance? There's one. Damn, that's a good ask question. I'm shrimp. Yeah. I'm going to say, and then lead chopper. Okay. Why is it an elite chopper? I could be wrong. Right. But I'm going to say an elite. I think it was. Everybody turned you down. No celebrity has turned me down. I've like, it'll be like conversation and then like, we'll get busy. Okay. But I definitely turned down a lot of opportunity. Right. Just because I don't want anything to feel forced, like there would be so much money for people to try to pay me to come my stream, but I feel like it's naturally not organic or there that I wouldn't do it. Right. Yeah. What celebrity did you meet for the first time that had you like, man, I can't believe I'm sitting next to this person or I'll probably say that I couldn't believe that like, damn, we have a lot. Oh my God, Kevin, um, but the first one I was like, damn, this is going to be crazy. It was like, little baby, he put up to the house and then we had a good, we had a good stream. Yeah. It was crazy. It was insane. But I mean, now it seems that even those guys are doing a lot of streams. I hear tea pain. He's pretty amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He genuinely loves it too. He's not just doing it. Right. Because it's a wave and I am like, tea pain is that ass streaming because he actually has a crap and he has, he has a thing where I can just tell he has laser beam focus when he likes to do something. Right. So you feel me? Like, I'm like a lot of that. But people, we try to force it and it's like, you can't, you can't force it. It's got to be organic. It has to. It was helping me understand. I mean, I can't think of a better person to help me understand. So streaming, so people are watching you play a game. Correct. It's like cod or... Oh, no. Just watching me talk. Oh, okay. Yeah. I could be talking like, um, just regular. I could just be like, yo, let me tell y'all what's happening today. And then I'll talk, talk, talk, do a fire sack, man. It could be a random segment. A horse coming my room starting to explode. Then I go to, um, then I'll be reading what they, like all the jokes and memes that they just drop in my community. Right. Um, we probably do like some community stuff to, uh, to help everybody. And then like, wind down and just like, or this is the album reaction, I'm a reaction to some music. Um, or... So you're not always playing video games? Yeah. I'm not all playing video games. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But, but definitely video games, every streamer has definitely played it. I want to say every streamer, but that's, that's the main. That's where it started. Right. It started gaming. That was the first thing that it changed, like just being able to talk in front of it. How did you book your first guess? Because I remember when we first started doing Club Shayshay and CJ, my EP back there here and I. Um, and I was like, how do I get a guess? Cause I had no idea if we didn't have a booking, we don't have, didn't have a booking like we do. And he said, we're just going your phone and call the most famous people you know, and see if you can, you know, when they come on. So you know, I did. Floyd Mayweather, Ice Cube and Snoop Dogg and Travis Kelsey and Rick Ross and so forth and so on. And then he's like, man, you ought to DM somebody and I was like, man, man, they might think I'm crazy. CJ. So I just started doing it. So I'm always interested to see like, I don't know if you have people that book get asked for you. Or you just reach out on your own. I just reach out on my own. Okay. And either I reach out or they hit me up. Okay. And then when I see a, a DM, I was like, how do, how do this person know me? Cause I'm not gonna lie. I never, and I still don't, but I had to realize it is that I don't think I'm, I still, I still feel so normal. Right. So when people do hit me up, I'm like, damn, like, you know how you, yeah, you know me? Like, how you know me? You feel what I'm saying? You feel like I'll be so surprised, like, um, and it's just crazy. What's the most surprising DM you got? My person, I'll probably say like Michael B. Jordan. Wow. Uh, Donald Glover, um, Kevin is this big cause I, I always want to do something with Kevin. Um, it's probably, I'll probably forget it something, but it's crazy. It get, bro, it gets crazy, like, bro, you'll just never know. And it starts up like, like Jonas Brothers, like it'll be the most random. Wow. Yeah. It'll be the most random people because they'll see, cause like their kids will know about it. You feel what I'm saying? And then thing it, but it'll be like, um, NBA players, like I, I, I still can't believe I still can't believe it. And I'll just be like, how you know me, like how you feel me? So let me ask you this. How do you determine the games that you're going to play? How do you come up with that? Oh, yeah. That's where it gets fun. But my chapter size that, um, or like this, this usually like a, every year, it's something like a fun game to play on stream that everybody plays that that'd be one of the games or whatever is just more, most popping right now. Or like right now I came, I came up with a routine with my, with my community to even be on some like, okay, y'all, y'all give me a list of games to do and I will stay on the stream until I beat the game. Right. So it's very engaging. It's a storyline building, like from beginning to end, the first game I ever played was Red. And I think it's the best single player game of all time, Red Dead Redemption 2 and I went all out. So I spent money to change from my room into the theme of the game. Wow. So that's based off of a Western time, my whole room be Western and all that. And I had like these little funny like bits and stuff and then after, um, uh, my biggest one that surprised me the most is a soul's game called Eldering and that's the one you played like a hundred and sixty seven hours. I played a hundred and sixty nine hours on that game. And I literally, seven, it was like a week straight and I, and I, and I, everybody has so many, so much people watching me just on the game. You feel what I'm saying? And I was like, damn, like it's one thing like streaming and regulating is going crazy. So when the gaming community accepts you for who you are and like, want to see you play? That's a blessing. So I go all out, like I don't care what the prices for my room to get it done and be entertaining. Like I'm going to give my community whatever they want every single time. I started doing trailers on top of it, um, and I started making my room me fire, you feel me? 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That's the vibe that I always want to give, because anybody thinks that anybody can come on the stream or anybody can do this, and it's like the chemistry might not be there. You feel me? But I just know how to break ice, and I just know how to let, I just know how to have people have fun. Like, bro, we don't got to talk about anything you got going on right now, just relax, sit back, and let's have a good ass time, you feel me, and have my friends pull up, and we just have fun, and it's like, my house is just like an escape from like, yeah, a big playground, whatever you want to do, I'm going to do it, no cap. So why do you think you've resonated so much with celebrities and entertainers? But I don't know, I think it's just because like, I just see them as me like, like, like normal humans, like, and good people, and you would never see me, you would never see me do anything for us in terms of like, I would never do a stream with somebody that I feel won't work, like, never, like, I feel like, I would never do a stream with somebody that I'd be like, I don't think the chemistry is there, so I don't want, yeah. You don't want to get on camera to find out whether or not the chemistry is there or not. You want to kind of have a pretty good idea going into it that this thing is going to be the best. Yes, I was scared. One person I was going to, was Nikki. I was, I didn't know how Nikki was going to be, but Nikki was amazing. When she pulled up, she, you know what's going to be about Nikki, Nikki is so real. She pulled up like, and like, was an amazing person the whole night, she came late, but like, she was made it worth it. And to this day, without me even like, being in contact with her, she knows my sister and my mom are being supportive, she checks up on them, to this day, like, whatever, send them free stuff, whenever. And my sister's her biggest supporter. Right. What's your craziest guest experience? Um, the party sleepovers, sleepovers definitely probably like, Kevin, Kevin and Juicy, that's like legendary. But like, those are definitely one, but crazy, like, that's crazy guys, not everybody crazy, but like, shock was blue face and croissant. Yeah, she threw the chair through the wall. Yeah. When she threw my chair through the wall, it was a shock that went through my body was like, Oh, it can get real live, but it had to hold it in, you feel what I'm saying? Right. So it was, that was a craziest one though, for sure. I mean, cause you don't want to do a great job of destroying your own room. Were you worried about somebody else destroying you? Like, it's one thing if you tell me you want to destroy the room, it's another thing if you just do it. Like, you gotta let me know. You feel what I'm saying? I'm trying to be prepared. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was like, you'll be good. You got me on my back and said, you'll be good. You're rich. I'm like, yo, what? Yeah, so, um, you beat, hold on, you met 21 Savage, $300,000 that you could beat him in man. Yeah. He cooked me. I don't, I, to this day, I don't know how I lost. What you mean you don't know how you lost? I don't know how I'm taking it, bro. He is trash. 21 is sold. Why did he trash? He beat me too. So whatever you got. No, cause he was getting in my head. Okay. So I get went up in an intense moment. Yeah. I literally feel like, like I, I still, my heart started beating fast and I, and I sold the last play of the game. I sold and he sold trash and it was bad and, and I lost, it's like, it's like, when there's no money in the line, I win, but as soon as there money in the line, I lose. And that's why I don't gamble. You don't gamble no more. No, I don't. That's that gambling though. That's a wager. Okay. You, okay. Okay. The gambling is like, you don't know what's gonna happen. Clearly, you don't know what's gonna happen. Wait. Wager is like, you got control in it. You feel me? Yeah. You got control in it. So it's like, I'm trying to, you really, it's a bet. It's more like a bet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you done with that? Yeah. Twenty one. Yeah. Listen. I'll make sure he get his money. I don't want no problem with sex. Yeah. Okay. Hey, another guy that you said that you, you, you have a relationship with his little baby. And I heard him the other day that he lost eight million gambling in like, oh my God. What? Yeah. Eight million like a day and a half. Dominique. Yeah. Eight mil. Eight mil. Eight M's. Yeah. And like 40 hours and he said he had Michael Rubin write a letter to all the casinos in Vegas that they banned him. Oh my God. I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that. That's crazy. I don't want to go down that hole though. Hell no. Hell no. Hell no. No, that's how people go when they do it and you hit. Right. It's crazy. And then this is what can you give me? I don't, I'm good off that. I'm chill. I'm chill. I'm chill. You cool with a little baby. So what's your favorite moment with a little baby? We have like, like we're just like cool in terms of like, I don't know what's in a while. Yeah. He's back once in a while. But we didn't get to like, I really hung up one time. Right. But like, I'm like off camera. Right. But other than that, like we ain't get to have any hang up. I would taste, um, his kids love me. Yeah. So his kids want to be at his birthday party and I put up on him Jason and I put up, I was like, I know I'm gonna go show some love to his head. Right. And like I went there and he made it cool. Everything was cool. He's a cool guy. Right. Yeah. You made money. He's got that, the first, the money started coming and you're like, damn, ooh, ooh, what you about? Oh, damn. What did I about? My first big purchase. Yeah. For me personally was my car. Okay. That was like a huge accomplishment. You still got it? Still got it. Okay. I still got that. I would never get rid of it. I, I, I love that car. And, um, that was like, that was like my first one and then my, my, my, my, my most proud is my, my house. Okay. So good. Is she here in Georgia? She's still here. She's still here. No, no. She lives in New York. New York. Yeah. But she's here in Georgia visiting. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So what have you learned about money? Oh man. What, first of all, I'm so glad that I'm naturally a good saver. Uh-huh. Um, I don't like to spend too much, but, um, I also know, I have, I have a, I have a good team around me and I also know like you should be purchasing some property. You should be purchasing, um, saying that's going to make your money worth it. You know what I'm saying? Like, of course you're going to have your phase when you go through clothes and all that stuff. But like, I think everyone who you realize is not worth it. Right. You feel me? So, um, besides that, like, I'm very, I would say I put all my money right back into my content. Wow. Like, literally all of it, I put right back into it or unless like, I like clothes or like, unless I like, I get outfits and stuff, but it's never on though, like, yo, you're tells me like, you got to spend time, you got to spend, you got to spend, you got to spend, cause I like to save. Yeah. So. Get some enjoyment out of it. Like, gee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to, you got to think so I make sure to get some more into like, get houses or like, I like, I like watches. Like playing jane watches. Right. And that's it. No, you got to pack that. I saw them. It's fire. Like, understand, I just, I don't even, I got over, I got, I'm glad I was able to get over like, the diamonds and stuff. Right. You know what I'm saying? I just, I just got one last novel chain, but like, it's not as bad as like, how you should think of it. Right. Like, for real. What's kind of guilty, what's, what's your guilty pleasure? My guilty pleasure. I just, I love, um, I don't know, I think my guilty pleasure is, I love just watching like, YouTube and, and Twitch, like, I'm still a viewer. I feel like I'm still a viewer. Like, I love just being on my phone and seeing what's going on and like, watching movies and reading billboards and, and like, different stuff going on in the room to get, um, inspiration. But like, ain't nothing, pleasure me more than like, an idea coming to life. Right. Sitting in there by my whiteboard, it'd be fire because I'd be coming up with the craziest stuff and I don't know and I'd be the first thing to do it. So it'd be good. What's your, what's been your best and you say, I, you told me your best purchase has been when like, you felt the best when you bought your mom a home. What's been your worst purchase? My worst, my worst purchase, how'd it probably be my, my first chain of my first watch. Like, you had a bus down? I had a bus down, rolly. And I had a, um, a bus down AP, I have a bus down AP and I, and I don't, I don't like those, those are like, I'm like, damn, like, I got the ease of it. It's, it's what it was though. You feel me? It's a special question. When you fly, you fly a charter. Do you fly private or a PJ or do you take. So boom, when I fly, I love flying on commercial because it made me feel like I don't want to get too big headed by myself or, or certain things, but I just learned a new trick that nope that I had to find by myself that nobody wants to. So like whenever, like, whenever I travel, it's either for a business opportunity, a sponsorship or I got to do something inside. So what I noticed that you can request travel fees. So like, companies are willing to just pay for a free PJ, like, like not out of my, out of my money. It's just like, you, if you want to get here faster, here's this, we'll cover this and things. So I was like, I just keep using that. Like, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. I just thought everybody just kept paying, but it's like, I didn't know I could just request it. Somebody else paying for it PJ. I'm paying for it commercial. But you definitely, but you definitely, you, you, you definitely get to, you have to get to that point. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Like, this just, this just started happening. You feel me? But yeah, that was the smartest thing I ever, like I ever discovered. I was like, what? And you get you in and out. Yeah. You feel me? But it got to a point where it's like, you know, when I do corncomber, it's crazy. Like TSA even be slowing me down. Like, yo, the streams is crazy or like when I'm on the air, or when I'm on the airplane. Well, you flying out Atlanta, why don't you use a private squeeze tier one? I've seen that. Is it the, um, you got like a nice little thing and it gets you straight to the commercial, right? Yeah. I've used it like once or twice. Right. They need that everywhere. They do. They do. I mean, they got it in Atlanta. They got a JKJ of K. They got it in LA. That's it. I think that's it. Yeah. Yeah. They need, they need more of that. They really do. They really do. They really do. But I do like flying commercial because I don't know, like just seeing like my supporters in person, it was freshly ambushed, like I feel like I still, you know, I read that you turned down 60 million to join kick. Why did you do that? It wasn't right. Man, I couldn't join kick at the time because it was like, I got to realize like, not all money is good money. Some money, I think some money that you did, some money you could take and some deals that you could sign that would like literally jeopardize and slow down everything that you built up for. Sometimes you got to just say, no, this is not, this is a, it's cool, like it's generational, but I'm not, I'm more like, what am I, what am I stepping on the world? Like, what am I going to be known for? So like, I don't even, if it don't make sense, I'm not doing it. They like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I have such a great community where I'm at right now. Why would I leave it? Who did you rely on to help make that decision or was that a sole decision that you made? Nah, that was me and God. I can tell you exactly what happened. 2023, right before my sub-a-thon, I had a call from kick, they say, hey, we got these millions for you to do 15 days on Twitch, then come to kick for 15 days, and then reveal that you're on kick. And I said, I told, I told my team, I said, I can't do it. I didn't want to do it, they hung up, as soon as I hung up, I got down on my knees and I put my hands together and I prayed and I said, God, we just turned down a crazy amount of money that can help me for a lifetime, but I just hope you keep me on the road of staying focused and being able to achieve my dreams at a natural pace, at my own pace. And the answer, I literally just locked in and it's like, when you get money, it's like, how do I explain? It's like when you get to a certain level, how much more money do you? Yeah, you know, what can I do with the money that I'm making, that I need to do this? Because if I need that, I got a problem to begin with, I'm probably going to blow through that. Right, that's what I'm saying. So I'm like, damn, I can't, I'm already blessed financially, why would I need to do this? Right. Like, wow, I'd rather pay the long game and a more natural or getting wrote. I mean, I mean, you turned on that stuff. Stuff makes 55 a year. That Chris Scott makes 60. That's, that's professional high top of the boot chain. But think about it though, Steph is doing what he loves. Yes. It's basketball. He's getting paid to play the game that he loves. I don't know if I would have loved it on TV. Oh, okay. You feel me? I have this, I have this through. Yes. Like, like streaming platform and stuff, and how it is. But like, from my home, I'm ready to be at, and like, I'm not worried about money. I just, I just built my community and I don't got to worry about the actions I could get when I'm already blessed. Right. You feel me? So I just keep that mentality and just make sure I never lose that mentality. Oh. Can I have you built your team? It's always interesting to see, because obviously, in order for you to do what you're doing to it, you need a team, but you need a team that you trust. You need a team that I don't feel like my team that I have around me, I never feel that I'm the smartest person in the room, because if I do, I need to find other people to be in the room. Right. So I trust my team. Clearly you trust your team. Right. How did you go about assembling your team that you've put together that, okay, this is the, this is the team that we're going to go to the top. At first, I had a videographer that I used to work with, and we built up a lot. We built up a lot until we stopped working, but after having an assistant, and oh my god, her story is crazy too, I had posted, I'm looking for an assistant. Okay. And her little cousin was like, "Yeah, you know, Cod needs somebody in the assistant." And I think he had to talk to you to do like property assistant, and then she text me like, "Hey, I'll do it." I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, damn, okay? I actually wish she lived back. She didn't live in Georgia. And I said, "You know what? Just say this time, Tom. I need to find somebody in Georgia. I don't want to move you out here. I don't want you to come out here. You do something like, you just fail or something, and like you have to figure everything out." He said, "I'm a grown, I'm grown." Whatever the decision is, I'm gonna take that decision, and I'm gonna live with it. She had like, I forgot her story is crazy. She had like $200. She rented a spot out here to stay for a test phone with me to see how it would go. She went to the spot on her for herself, got scammed, lost to $200, had to call family, and then gave her some spare money. She found somewhere, she found somewhere like, just slay her at that. Her first task was, and I was like, "You know what? I gotta give her a hard task, so I know." I said, "Find me a zebra, and I want to have a..." Hello, like a zebra zebra, like, a zebra again, like, yes, like, a legit zebra. "Find me a zebra. I want my house to be a zoo. I want a lot of men here, I want kangaroos, I want a zebra." The zebra was the harder. I'm like, "There's no way she found a zebra in Georgia." She said, "Okay, I'm on it." She put up with a goddamn zebra, and the way she fought to get the zebra there, 'cause it was one up north, and they were like, "No, no, no, no." And she was on the phone, she told me, she's like, "Yo, I literally have to get a zebra, or you're going to cost me my job." She's literally on it, and she got the zebra there, and I was like, "Yes, she's good. If you get a zebra in Georgia, you can do..." "Yeah." "You can do anything, I'm not going to lie." So I got her there, and she's like, she's like a older sister, like, I did as go to her for her advice, like, on life, and like, she's able to give me advice, and we're able to lock in. I could close my eyes, and she knows exactly what I wanted, how I wanted it, what I wanted done. Like, that's the best thing. And that's the best thing. Yeah, and I have to rebuild. I have to rebuild my technical side with my boys, Daniel and CB, they're like, "Ying ying ying." And we got some more people going on the team, and my management is good, they never forced me down the wrong path. We live, we learn, we keep going. Yeah. We keep going, we keep everything in a tight, tight circle. I saw what Duke, he got his car broken into. I don't know, he go from South Carolina to Atlanta, he just popped up, and he got his car broken into. But he didn't care though. He was actually like, he had said that it's crazy how he gets to say like, he got his Lamborghini broken into like, that's a blessing in his own, like, he didn't care though. The picture was fire, him taking the picture, but I don't know, you know, people still be out here, gotta be safe. I'd be moving with security and stuff, but- Oh, do you? Yeah. Yeah. I don't got security with me now, but- Yeah. We don't go back. We don't go back. But nobody go down that road. Yeah. By the time you're serious, it'll be long. You be long ago. You guys, you be gone by 15 years later by the time you're here. No, yeah. The mainstream endorsements. You have deals with NBA, Chime, T-Mobile scams, and DoorDash. How do you decide who kind of net partners with? Yeah, I gotta use it on a daily, or it gotta just make sense. Like, I'm so big on like, making sense, like, but I want to, I love the hands. Like, I said, I love the hands, hands, gotta push out to me, they send me free hands, hands, stuff. My ultimate one was Nike. Yeah. I love Nike. I'm talking about shoes. I didn't grow up with the best shoes, or a gear, athletic gear, or anything, and Nike, and then, that was possible, camera on the corner, and it just has to make sense. If it's a daily use that I needed on a daily, that's just a perfect one up, but- Yes. The endorsements and sponsorships that I did not like, that I feel like it was- It's gotta make sense. It has to. It can't be. And that's literally one of the biggest things to the blueprint. Always keep it organic. Yes. Always keep it real. Yes. What fits you? You feel what I'm saying? Yes. So, yeah. What do you learn most about negotiating? Because a lot of times, you know, like, we started out with CJ and I, we started with club Shay Shay, we wouldn't have any advertising, we didn't have nothing. And then you're getting a situation in these six and seven-figure deals coming along. Sometimes you have to say no. And it's hard. You're like, damn. I mean, I remember, CJ, we didn't get $50, we didn't get $100. And now, we saying no to six and seven-figure deals, but it just doesn't seem like- Yeah, I don't go shit. I don't like, it's certain things that I don't like, the host thing, like, they be going to everything else. You'll post this, put a link on it here, put this on here, as you do this. Make sure I need five slides on the IG story. Won't you start asking too much? It's okay. I'm going to tell you exactly what I will give you in deliverables. But if you, if you start asking, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to tag me, got to tag bro. Yeah, you got to tag bro. You're my best friend. Yeah, my best friend. Nah, bro. I'm good, bro. I'm good. I'm good. And it be worth it. Yeah. Like, you don't, like, it be worth it in terms of, like, making sure that, you're, like, like, you're, you're, you're. Because it's your personal page, you don't want to turn into a billboard. Yeah. Like, I don't even, like, I don't even, like, post it on my feed. Yeah. Like, I don't even, like, doing that because it's like, yeah, when it comes with a billboard, it's like, all right. You feel me? But I, I do commend people. I don't really want to be seeing, like, I've been seeing a lot of young folks do it, bro. I feel like when you get older, then you can start, you do stuff like that. You start doing a whole bunch of side missions and stuff like that. You feel what I'm saying? But like, keep it, keep it good. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on, just simply go back to Club Shae Shae profile and I'll see you there. The New Year's here. It's the perfect time to refresh those household essentials and score some cash-back rewards with Colgate Palm Olive. 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