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Now, you going to give me $28, $29, so when I project it out, that's about, "Okay, I'm going to lose $10 million, you know what, Ocho? With a couple of incentives here and there, I do a couple of appearances, I can make that up." But when you tell me on the free agent market, I can get $5, $160 million with $80 million guaranteed and what y'all can only get to is $120 million, "Oh, hell naw, when you start once you get past $20, $30 million, I can't even hear nothing y'all say it." Yeah. Y'all boo job. I can't do it because here's the thing, Ocho, if the networks were to go to the NFL and say you know what you think they're going to say, "Oh, Joe, no, they're not getting no deal from the NFL, it's not giving you." Because I don't think y'all understand, Chad, stay with me right here. Do y'all realize that even though, like, ESPN has paid $2.2 billion and Fox has paid $2 billion and all these networks, do you realize, even on playing the $2 billion, the $1.8, the other $2.2 billion, that in order for ESPN to show video clips, they got to pay for that, too? Oh, yeah. 11 minutes of video clips is about $2 million. Let that sink in, Chad, listen to me, 11 minutes worth of video clips, how many video clips do you think ESPN show in a day? Right. How many of you do you think they show in a week? Same for Fox, same for CBS, same for NBC, same for Amazon. Think about that. So, I just pay, hold on, it's like Ocho. Yes, sir. I go pay $200,000 for a car. You made a deal, man. I got to pay for the umbrella to come in the car, too. You can't give me that of a discount. God, pay. Yeah. I mean, listen, listen, I just, I don't understand, and I think about the nature of the business when it comes time to get paid. For one, the teams aren't going to come to you with your best interest in heart or in mind. They're going to lowball. Of course. They're going to lowball you, you know? I understand. I know the game that they're going to play, as much as I love the game of football. But I understand the bidding war. It's almost like Ocho just reminds you of like, in Pennsylvania, Montana, Marino, Naima, Kelly, all of them from that little pocket. So many, you know, what's up, boy name, Reebas, Aliquippo, Tony Doersett, Aliquippo. I mean, that, that little smaller Pennsylvania, a lot of Hall of Famers came out of there. But this is, I mean, within 120 miles of each other, it'll be interesting. They probably, you know, chase, and they probably know each other before they go to the trail. You don't say no joke, whatever, whatever, whatever parts of Louisiana they were from, they just start getting good. They've been good. Yeah. They've been good way back then. So obviously, you know, you know, players in different counties and different cities that are playing well. So I'm sure they know each other, especially the seven or seven stuff when they were coming up with being, and I'm sure they crossed paths in those types of areas and environments. Chase is going to win the triple crown. Jetta's having an outstanding season. He's over a hundred catches, Malik neighbors. He's on pace. Well, the only thing you know, that he's got Brian Brock Bowers, who needs nine catches to set the single season record for tight ends, he has eight or more catches than Malik neighbors. He has 108 neighbors. That's a lot. Two man. That's a lot like, listen, I, Brock Bowers was the real deal at Georgia. He was a real deal. I didn't know what he would be in NFL on we've, we've seen many players. We've seen many players dominate, you know, at the college level. And to get to fill and absolutely disappear. Yeah. Brock Bowers is everything as advertised boy. Everything is advertised. You know why I thought you. Yes, sir. You know why I thought he would be good, Ocho? Because he's not a finesse tight end. Right. He's an old fool. Put his hand in the dirt tight end. That's tremendous run after the catch. He has great body control. He got great hands. He catch the ball in traffic. He's good run after the catch. Now, is he grown? Is he marked by role or some of these big drug kiddo? No. No, no, no, no. He's not that now. I'm not saying he's that, but he's a decent and what I tell guys all the time, are you more of an asset in the passing game than your liability in the run game? Because if you are, you can play, you can be special in this league because that's all I'm asking. And that's what I told about some money. I'm going to be more of an asset than I am a liability. Now, now, if you want me to try to hold up against Reggie and sprayhand and Bruce up and it happening. And so I'm going to tell you right now, go and put somebody else in there. And when it comes to passing down, let me go over and get my little passes and I come on out. But dang, on just wearing me out all day long, I'm going to get me a couple of wins back. And so that's the way you got to approach it. But four leading receivers, all within 120 miles of each other. Chase, Justin, Jefferson, CD lamb, Brian Thomas, Jr. and Malik neighbors for good measure. It's been speculation that the Raiders co-owner Tom Brady really liked Brian Flores as a potential head coaching candidate. Flores has done damage, some amazing things with the bikes. Remember, he, he was the defensive coordinator when they won the Super Bowl against the Rams, right? And Atlanta. And then he got the head coaching job at Miami. Okay. Here's a linebacker coach. When did he become the DC? He was never the DC. Okay. So he's the linebackers coach, they got the job, okay, because Patricia was the DC. Okay. Do you like that? You like Brian Flores to be a nice lead now, listen, I think Brian Flores and what he was able to do with the Vikings defense, obviously the personnel in the talent and skill level may be a little different, a little bit more upside when it comes to the Viking defense. But I think it would be good. I think he, I think he'd be a good fit. I don't like the fact that they're firing or getting rid of AP when AP hasn't had a chance because he'd been going through a goddamn quarterback carousel and that got them married around a quarterback. So it's hard to be able to get in. I say it all the time. You can't compete unless you got a quarterback. Yes. Yes. Yes. None. He had a chance for opportunity and who do they have? Who do you have? Oh, he had Jimmy G got him into a no-cono. No, those, those are the many that everybody was member and there's no disrespect to them. No disrespect to them. But, you know, we talk about tier two, tier three quarterbacks, bro. What I'm supposed to do with that? None you can't do. You give me chicken poops and make me some chicken salad and I needed to be yummy. Nice. Yeah. You're right. I mean, I like Ryan Flores. I think he, I think he's done a great job of rehabilitating himself because all the things that were coming out with weren't favorable. You hear two or say things. You had Ryan Fitzpatrick say things. There are some other people that have come out and said something, but that, look, at the end of the day, Brian, if I would tell all I would say is this, be you. You're not coach bubble chain. And I think that is the one mistake. They made it. Yeah. All the coaches. Kind of that tree. It's made. Right. They try to be coach. That way of coaching wouldn't work in this area anyway. If you look at, look at the guys that come out of said Mike Shanahan, I mean, Kyle Shanahan Street. Yeah. Sean McVey. Sean McVey. Matt LaFloor is Matt LaFloor. Kevin O'Connell is Kevin O'Connell. Mike McDaniel is Mike McDaniel. Nobody try to be like him. I don't know why when that's not your personality. When they look up there and they hear you sound like coach double check, but then like you Brian Flores, you Matt Patricia, you Johnson Daniel, you billo Brian, you Charlie White. You brought me your canal. You're not him. Why try to be him? So that would be my advice to him. I hope he gets another opportunity. The second time around is very important, but you have some pieces you get to work with over there. Jack Jones, Max Crosby, then you got some other young book. Yeah. Yeah. You got Christian Wilkins. Yeah. You got Brock Byron. You got to get a quarterback. You got to get a quarterback and they got a lot of, never got how much cap space do the Raiders have? Raiders got a lot of cap space. Now they're gonna have a little dead cap space on there with a Devontae Adams dealing him. They got a lot of cap space. But no, that's it. They got money. I mean, listen, you don't want to spend anything. You want. Raiders got the second most cap money to spend, you don't just want to spend on anything. You want to spend on the right thing. I just, you know, I thought Jamal Adams should have should have should have stayed at the Jets. I don't know. Maybe it was his contract. He wanted to get paid sometime, bro. The grass ain't always greener and it's really difficult. It's rare. It's really, really rare, Ocho, that you can build up something here and then go somewhere else and it'd be the same. It's difficult. And I remember having a conversation with a very, a great player and he called me. He said, uh, tell me what you think I should do. I said, I said, I'm going to be honest with you. I said, where are you thinking about going? They're never going to love you like you like they do where you are. I said, never. I don't care what you do. You're being loved where you are. You're just going to be another piece. He stayed and and I don't think enough guys realize that. Yeah, I mean, I get Ocho like free agency and they won't pay you, but when you request things, I mean, what's fair, it's fair based on where he was at his time, being a safety. You got to hit it when the stove is hot and the stove was hot for him. Right. And then think about it. Because think about how he not did what he did and he had gotten hurt then he wouldn't got that money jets are reportedly set to interview Ron Rivera and Rex Ryan for the head coach and vacancy at the Jets. Oh, Joe, who would be the red better fit? I'm biased. So don't ask me. Yeah. Yeah. He's going back. Right. No, but I'm saying I know Rex, sexy Rexie who's on the staff in Baltimore, his dad came and worked me out when I was at the wrong, not the Broncos, when I was in Savannah State. Oh, Joe, buddy, his dad rested. So came and worked me out. He said, son, I've watched the tape. He says, right. We're going to take a bunch of receivers. He said, we're going to put all the ads in the bag and the best ones are going to play that. Now, when he told me he drafted all those receivers that I remember him telling me, he's like, I F'd up, he said, we took a bunch of receivers, but none of them was you. They took a Fred Barbnet, they took Calvin Williams, Mike Bellamy, they took like four receivers, don't you know what I'm saying? That's motivating. Oh, yeah. That is motivating in itself. Mm hmm. Who you like before? You like Ron Rivera? You like Rex Ryan? I don't think Ron has a. The right and personality is not the right word to use. He just doesn't fit the New York atmosphere, the New York meter. I mean, the New York, Rex has been there, done that. He knows. He knows. Yeah, he definitely knows. He definitely knows how to talk to the media. He has the personality. Yeah. He cares about it. He doesn't fit. I mean, good, good coach. He just doesn't fit in that atmosphere. I don't think that's what they need. 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I want you to check this out, the bills defeated the jets 40 to 14. At one point, this goal was 40 to eight. Aaron Rodgers had a 1.2 QBR today versus the bills. It was one of the worst 20 worst games by quarterback in NFL history. It was the worst game since Davis Mills in 2021. The bills for three turnovers, not the safety, sack Aaron Rodgers four times. Rodgers had a from a forgettable game with season lows and path yards 112 quarterback rating 44. Aaron Rodgers benched himself in the fourth quarter, essentially saying, you know what Elcho. This is what he said. I mean, it was 33 to nothing. We're sitting there and I said, at some point, you probably go to Tyrod. Huh? Yeah. Probably should have went to Tyrod about five games ago, huh? Uh, you know what a bills and then y'all to give me your vaccination status. Because that probably that probably why y'all want a so I can ask you a question on a chat. Can I ask you a question? A chat. Listen, listen to me. Yeah, sure. Is this any different? Then Anthony Richardson saying he would quiet and coming out the game and everyone was saying, you know what? I'm going to bench myself. I guess what? Maybe based on my play when there's nothing wrong with you. There any different. I'm just curious. I'm here a chat. I'm curious on your thoughts. I'm. I just want to. I don't get it. I've never heard of a player actually mentioned himself unless he's saying he's been some self. And then they unless they actually did it. Yeah. No, that's not what he said. He said he went to the court basically went to the court. You say we're sitting there and I said, at some point, you can't give up with your team in the middle of a game. No matter how mad you're going, you still got to keep fighting to the end. You have to. I'm sure. I'm just trying to figure out. I mean, but in fact, I probably did look, I mean, he doesn't beg enough for a job or they draft the quarterback. I would mentor him. You know, that's not a conversation for me. I mean, he's begging to stay there. You know, he's playing bad and y'all getting people have given him every excuse and when you say that he's played bad, you're talking about vaccination status, that ain't got nothing to do with him playing bad. That ain't got nothing to do and that was four years ago, ain't even nobody talking about COVID. He keeps bringing that up to try to when he's playing, he's playing the shell game with Jojo. Mm-hmm. I'm playing. Let's talk about COVID. So you, so you try to say you're trying to distract me with the right hand is what you're playing bad with. Yeah. Right. He tried to distract. That's why he keeps bringing it up. Don't nobody don't nobody bring up that he misled people. And you know, immunization, you know, if he vaccinated, he immunize, nobody brings that up. Right. We're talking about your play in 2024 has been abysmal. Right. There's no, there's no way around it. He's playing bad. He's still a four time league MVP. He's still a Super Bowl champ. He still has grown 499 touchdowns. He's done all of that. And I say that. But he's played bad in 2024. There's nowhere around the chat. There's nowhere around the jet fans. Even the most die hard, start your supporters of air Rogers can understand what that being said. Let me play. Good. When we have season was abysmal. It's been bad. It's been really bad. Does he get an opportunity to redeem himself next year? That's the question. I don't believe he redeems himself in New York. That's just me. Right. I mean, what did Johnson, if the reports are to be believed that when he Johnson tried to bench him earlier than the season, I don't know why you would bench him and then have him back. Now that's just my fault, owners have done things that made me scratch my head before. But all I know is this, they fired the coach. So like I said, you know, play, play, play, play, play, play, play, play as a sport. No, but Ocho, the thing is, that's what you have to understand when you bring a guy like that in, you basically turn the, you turn the organization over to it. Tampa. Did that, but Tampa did that for Brady. Broncos did that for Manny. The problem that you have to be careful with is that people sometimes they have power. They'll abuse that privilege. It'll tell you a lot. Give a person. If you want to know what a person and people say, well, give him money. Give a person power. That, that, that, that, that'll tell you exactly who a person is. That's telling law. And Rogers had 499 career touchdowns, suddenly 500 a look at certain things going to be interesting to see. Does he play? Right. Does he start next week? Does he play next week? Uh, if being reported that Garrett Wilson will reportedly request a trade if Rogers comes back as quarterback, I remember having a conversation with you this offseason when they were in training camp and he kept talking to Rogers. I said, Oh, Joe. That's not a good sign. You said, oh, oh, you're just a preseason. I said, Oh, Joe, I'm telling you, right? Go to it. You keep talking and I don't blame it. Y'all keep telling me all I know is that when I have a quarterback, he, I'm not saying he's not been being utilized the right way, but I know what he can do. I know what he can do. And there's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing wrong with him. But the quarterback has been abysmal and we've seen Aaron Rogers before be able to facilitate the ball and be able to the dish it and deliver it to multiple players at a time because they did it for a very long time in Green Bay. Maybe he's just not the same quarterback we're used to seeing because there's no reason Garrett Wilson to be upset. There's no reason Garrett Wilson with his talent, with his skill level and wasn't he can contribute to that offense. There's no reason for this and his time, his young United in his prime yet is being wasted in New York. It is. And that's, and that's a look guys, y'all have a little, a little, a different way. I just call it like I see it. I don't, I don't have anything personal against anybody. I don't think I'm better than anybody. I don't care what somebody else is doing. I just look at him and say, okay, the guy's playing good, the guy's not playing good. And let me try to tell you explain to you why he's not playing good or why he is playing good. I don't just don't look at touchdown, interception, sack blah, blah, blah. I'm trying to look at how it came, I'm trying to look at how it came to be. That's why we were able to look at the play and say, oh, that interception that y'all blaming on Russ, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't Russ. That was Pickens. He quit on the route. And so once he quit on the route, the safety said, why the hell am I going to get wired with? There's not a threat. Why? The danger is screaming up the seam here. Let me just cheat this here. Okay. Thank you. Thank you Russ. I appreciate that. Had to say had Pickens not quit on that route, and he stayed wide. That means Reid would have had to stay wide. And that means Brian Muth would have got over the top of it because he picked it. You have to understand everything ties together. We're talking about from a standpoint of running routes. We know how things tie together front side. We got to maybe the front side, we got a dagger hoping that safety get knows it that we got the post on the backside. The Broncos ran the Dino, the Marvie Mills Jr. Safety is already outside, so I'm going to get him a little further. Now I'm going to head back to the post, safety ain't paying attention on the backside. Now I'm not I'm passing it. So in the offense, things tie together. It's almost like, you know, rice and gravy, you know, corn bread and this, potatoes and that. And so you trying to see, okay, this went together, but guys, at some point in time, even even even our favorite players, they're not what they once were, and they can't do that. And that's the one thing is that you learn is that you can't do it consistently. You could have a game or two, but Aaron Rodgers to throw three hundred two fifty, Aaron Rodgers turned. How many interceptions did the man got he probably got three seasons in 20 years in which he's had double-digit interceptions? Rodgers was throwing forty five touchdowns with six picks, forty touchdowns with four picks routinely. Yeah. I'm not sure he had 100 interceptions on the other night, I saw the graphic come up. I saw the graphic come up and I'm looking up, though, I'm like, man, what in the hell? If he does, he might not have about a hundred and two. Oh, he has the greatest touchdown to interception ratio in NFL history. So he had four hundred and ninety nine touchdown, a hundred and thirteen picks, which is crazy. That's why he's afforded opportunities. That's crazy. Give me a trace of the quarterback because of that, when people understand it, you know, they're going to use that as a crutch over and over and over. He's going to get another opportunity to play if I don't know if it's going to be New York. I don't know if it's going to be in New York. No one, Aaron Rodgers, in the way he is and the way he operates, he going to want to come back. He going to want to come back. But here's the thing. Oh, Joe. Yeah. Oh, Joe, as you get older, you don't get to make the decisions. Yeah. But think about it, Tom Brady didn't get to write his ending. Peyton Manning didn't get to write his ending. Montana didn't get to write his ending. Emmett Smith didn't get to write his ending. There are not very many guys because once you get older, small problem, you don't get to write. You just have a very small problem. Aaron Rodgers might not be able to write the ending, right? What's that? They can't close the page on that chapter because they don't have nobody to open the new book. Oh. Yeah, they do. Why would you go back to Sam Donald? I like, you know, I like did you see, oh, Joe, it's a lot sometimes, sometimes, even in a relationship, the individual, the female or the male can be paralyzed because they're so afraid that somebody might not out there. What am I going to do? Yeah. I know he don't pay. I know he beat on me. I know she cheated on me. I know this, but I am I going to be able to find somebody else? Yes, sir. You get paralyzed by that because you overthink said situation. I refuse to be in a situation like that. I refuse to. I am not going to let you hold me hostage because I don't see it right now, something on the other side, right? Because the Jets cannot see well, who's the quarterback right now that we can definitively say? Are you saying that there's somebody out there that gets be worse? I mean, are you telling me you need to tell me you can't find somebody out there that can go five and 11. I mean, five and 12 that can go six and 10 that can go seven and seven and what nine and eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be kidding me. There are now no quarter of a chat. Tell me if I'm wrong. You all believe that there's another, there's not another quarterback out there that can do what Rogers did this year. Now, if you tell me you're going to give me 2021, Rogers, that's a hard thing in there. Without, without him, but that guy, Oh, Joe, that guy, you would be in the playoffs, but he's not that guy anymore. Carolina had Sam Donald and the handmaker, mayfield, I don't know if y'all know, but make a mayfield guy like four or five games where he thrown four touchdowns this year. Now he threw five a day with over 300 yards, Sam Donald, through three today, he's thrown 35 touchdowns, which is the third most for for Viking. So clearly these guys can play given the right sort of circumstances. Now, look, they were devoid of talent. They didn't have this level of talent in Carolina. So you have to take look, I'm not saying that it's all Carolina fault. But Mike Evan, Chris Godwin, you look at what they got in Tampa, not even though Chris Godwin is going down. They still have quality receivers and they have a nice running game. You look at what they were obviously looking what Sam Donald is throwing to. He got Aaron Jones in his backfield. He got Hockinson who's been a who's been a pro ball player. He's got Jenna. He's got Addison. He's got Naylor. I mean, look, he's got guys that he can throw the ball to, but it just goes to show you. I don't care without talent around you. Now you got some guys now, guys like a Mahomes or guys like some guys can ever like Brady. They used to elevate could elevate, you know, not if you're in the lead, you're good, but everybody is not going to be a judge. Everybody's not going to be random. I was Tio and so forth the song, but what a great quarterback like a Mahomes. He can elevate those guys play when you're not that level of players. You need guys to elevate your play. And that's what the great skill position players around you are able to do. Baker Mayfield has been better since he got the temple that even when he wasn't Cleveland because he got more talent around Sam Darnell was never going to be this good and in the jets and at Carolina because he didn't have this level of talent around it. And so if you go out and sign a Sam Darnell, look at what you have. You have the roster that's equipped to help continue to elevate him because if you don't, he's not Mahomes. He's not burrow. He's not Lamar. He's not Josh. That's not what he is. And I'm not going to sit here and tell you because he's having and he's having an outstanding year. I don't I give credit what credit is due, but I don't look at him as a guy. That's a multiplier that he no matter who you put out there, Oh, Joe, he's going to make him times to that's not what that's Lamar. That's that's reserved for the top four or five quarterbacks in the league. That's not your one quarterbacks or your needs that regards to what you put around them. They going to get the job done or we get the job done then if you have the you have your tier two quarterbacks, your tier two quarterbacks, sometimes they need a little help. Now they're good, but they're not great. Now you put some you put some good receivers around them. But they can have a game where they are they can have a game or two where they are great. He got a ride. More time to get. You need to have that hedge around them to support him. Brock bowels record setting day pushing the Raiders to a win versus the Saints. The Raiders posted back to back wins for the first time this season with a 25 10 victory over the New Orleans Saints rookie tight and Brock bowels led the Raiders in receiving with seven catches 77 yards and set several records by were selling NFL record for the most receiving yards by rookie tight and any single season. And the most reception by rookie in a single season. Uh, hello, the most reception by rookie in a single season in this Oh, in the second quarter. Right. That what you say? Yeah. Okay. In the second quarter. Okay. Bowers also said a Raiders single season record for the most receiving yards by rookie and the most receptions. I mean, the Worcester record, the most reception by tight is Jason Witten, 116. Oh, 116. They would deal anymore because he has what? What does he have? Not a hundred and eight because I think Malik neighbors has like a hundred and six. He's right there, only about Zach hurts. Okay. Zach hurts has one 16. Brock bowels has how many 108 now? So he's nine catches away from breaking the record. Hey, all I know, I'm throwing in the ball. I'm throwing in the ball. Every day I'm to everybody. Oh, I forgot. Pass or tango gets some votes too. Cause when he covered Jamal Chase at the old six seven targets, he had three catches for 27 yards against certain and when when certain was an ornam. What's it called? Uh, uh, uh, Joey, Joe Burroughs, honey. Well, hey, oh, you going to guard somebody else. You might get ready. Yeah. So sir, he's going to get some, he's going to get some bones. He good, man. He really nice. He good. Oh, that's the best size to be that big. What? Yeah, they told me, Hey, listen, to be that flu. Yeah, he told me. He got smooth. Do that. Great hips. Great technique. He can play off. He can play man. He's really good and always in position to make a play. I like him. I like him a lot. The volume. Famous smoke has been dominating the cigar game since 1939 with the best prices on the best cigars. 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