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But I remember more like from when we went back and visited. Okay. type because we went back once to go visit when I was a little older. So I remember that more than I remember like stuff while I was there like when I was younger. When you did you have very many friends? Do you remember friends when you were growing up? You say you left at six or seven? So did you have very many friends? I just had family like cousins like a lot of cousins. Yeah. So I ain't really needing no friends. So your family your mom move you here of all the places in the US Y. T. L. you think? Oh no. I ain't never asked you never you never asked like mom not New York not Chicago not LA not Detroit Atlanta. I ain't never asked that. All right. Do you think about how different your life might have been had you gone to one of those places or Chicago or New York or Detroit or someplace other than the east side of Atlanta. I ain't never thought about that. You just so you just happen to like okay so you get here you get settled in so obviously you're in a new London is very bad. So it's London I'm assuming London is very different than Atlanta. It is but it ain't no really to me because it's like it looked different. Okay. It's the same shit. Okay. You see what I'm saying? It's like I like when I came over here like I had family too. Okay. So you just around family. Oh so your mom so you you had relatives in Atlanta. Like my mom or friends they moved with us. Okay. All the people that I grew up with. Oh okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So it wasn't like you were just like moving to a buy yourself like just you and your mom. You have a large contingent with you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh so did that make the transition a lot easier. I ain't know about no transition. I'm just a child. I'm not with my mom. Right. Right. So how how soon did you get acclimated and how soon did you make friends once you got to Atlanta? Like quick. Like it was this this boy named skinny. Mm-hmm. He had got killed though like a couple years ago. Wow. But that was like the first person I met that like ended up being like my best friend. Okay. Like growing up they used to stay like we stayed in the upstairs apartment. He stayed directly under us. Okay. And his momma like we was bad as hell because it was six of us. Well back then it was like for us. Okay. So we used to be jumping up and down running around and he was the youngest. But his siblings was like way older than him. Okay. And like so they house was quiet. They got plastic on their couch. All that. So like when we used to make noise his mama grab a broom and hit the roof. So we ended up getting cool. His mom and my mom ended up getting real cool. Okay. And I used to like stay at his house used to stay at my house. I still talk to his mom all the time. Wow. Yeah. Your family your background. I think if you're really your mom was from the Dominican or your father. No. Dominica. Yeah. Oh. Okay. That Dominican Republic. Dominica. Yeah. And so how much of the traditions from when you came to from London did you guys bring with you. So where did you matriculate into East Atlanta rather rather rather seamlessly. Like because you said you got a big for you got sick like four four boys and no three boys and three girls three boys. Okay. And your mom. Yeah. And then my little sister and daddy he just making. Okay. And what you mean like like food wise. Yeah as far as yeah. My mama cooked. Okay. Sure. Yeah. So how soon did you start eating some of you know because they get they got the mom's tail. They got the mother pork chops mother chicken. How soon when you started eating that opposed to what you were customer eating. I think like that came with like like making friends. Okay. Like when I used to go spend the night at my friend's house like growing up I ain't never I wasn't allowed to eat pork. Okay. Okay. You know what I'm saying. Like other stuff. Like when I go to my friend's house. Spend the night as a like when I was younger. I eat whatever they cook. Right. But I didn't start really like just picking what I want to eat right out of the order. So when you went back home you're like mom my friends they cook this that her mom or their mom cook this. You think you might be able to cook that. Did you tell your mom that? Nah. Hell no. I can't tell him I'm going on a shit like that. Hell no. She was trying to get it on. I know she went trying to eat from the tribe. Right. Did your mom share with you that you guys were leaving London coming to the US or did you just guys just up and lead. Did you know you were leaving? I don't really remember. Right. I just remember. It's like so long ago. Right. So I'd be trying to really thank about the story but I'm I'm sure my mom told me where it was going for show. Right. Because I was sick. Right. But I just don't remember like that conversation but I know it had to happen. Right. So do you remember you just remember getting on the plane didn't have no idea where you was going. You just know you were leaving London. Yeah. Right. Because I think at first it wasn't a state thing. Oh okay. She was just coming to visit. Right. Okay. I think it was coming to visit. Mm-hmm. But I don't want to fuck the story up neither because my momma know the story. Right. Okay. I think it was like let's see. We want to move here but we finna go see if we don't like it. We're gonna go back. Right. Type shit. Okay. And then we just stay. Right. So clearly she liked it. Yeah. What about you? Did you like it? Or you was just going along with the flow. You really didn't have a choice in the matter because you five or six years ago. Right. So if you didn't like it you were stuck anyway. You gonna just adapt. I liked it though. Okay. I liked it. Like it's hot. It ain't cold all the time. Right. I remember like playing outside like doing the same shit that I used to do. Like when I used to go like to my grandma house on my daddy's side. Mm-hmm. Like we were playing the neighborhood. Go like it was the same shit. Right. So what was it like I mean because all of a sudden they got these these new this new family comes in and I'm pretty sure you probably have an accent. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. So now you on the east side Atlanta. Yeah. You got an accent. How would how receptive were the kids to you? They used to tee. I got in a fight on the first day of school. Oh god. From the jump. Yeah. They was used to tease me. Okay. Like I went to Dunneh Elementary. That was the first elementary school I went to. Okay. So we get to the I get on the bus or whatever. They start talking to me. So they making fun of me on the way to school. Okay. So we get on the bus to go home. They making fun of me on the way home. Okay. So we get out the bus like one of the one of the older dudes like his little brother was the man when so the older brother was like like um said something like basically like shit fighting. So we get out the bus. I beat him up. So the girls all the girls they run and tell my mama okay at the door. So I your sisters know the kids in the neighborhood in the neighborhood. Okay. So they run they tell my mama because they started I really was kicking a lot. They started calling me Taekwondo kid. It's a true story on my mom. Okay. So so I they they run and tell my mama. So I I'm trying to drive my feet to get home now. So I walked to the door. She grabbed me by my ill put me in the house because the girls were still there right telling her the story when I got there. So she I just remember her grabbing me by my ill and then like throwing me in the house like type shit. And then that was it. I ain't getting on punishment. You ain't getting on punishment? No. She didn't ask you what started it. Uh-uh. So you so I not from my memory. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. She probably did. Right. But from what I can remember. I just remember getting pulled. You know you only remember. Of course. You remember. Right. I just remember the air like. So what do you think was the biggest obviously you're very young. So you have an experience the whole lot. It's not like you come in here. You're 13 to 14. So you haven't had a whole lot of your five or six years of age. I think you're seven at this time. Yeah. So is there a big culture shock? Do you notice anything different about being in London as opposed to being in East Atlanta? The most shit that I like that I used to remember changing was the size of everything. Okay. Like I remember like in London like our bathrooms would be like this big right? You feel what I'm saying? And I remember like we were still we was in the hood in on the East side too. Right. But it was just like a size different like like at my grandma's house in London I could touch both sides of the house like this. Wow. You feel what I'm saying? But over here it's like more space. Right. I remember that. And I remember getting in a car to go everywhere. Right. In London we used to take the bus in the train. I remember like we always was in the car when we got here. So you had an accent I'm assuming. So where did you fall in the ranking as far as your siblings? I'm the oldest. You're the oldest. Yeah. Okay. So I'm assuming so man. So if you're seven that means and you got three brothers and three sisters that means man. You got some babies. You got some three like because it's a it's a three years age gap between me and my little sister. Okay. So if I was seven she was probably like three turning four. Right. And then my little brother was still a baby baby. Right. And then the other three was born in America. Okay. Feel what I'm saying? Right. Right. So did you still feel a sense of responsibility because you are the oldest? You I mean even though you a child you like you're the oldest male. And so do you feel some type of responsibility that you needed to like okay I need to be the man of the house even though I'm only seven years old at the time? I think so. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Like I was naturally like a protector and type shit. Yeah. For sure. So what did your mom what did your mom think about that? So the type of relationship that because like you said you're the oldest your mom is in a new in a new place and granted there are a community that came with you but you the protector because you like okay I got to look after my mom I got to look after my brother my sister did your mom tell you anything about that or you just instinctively took that on? I think it was just like instinct for the most part. I feel like I feel like it's just in my personality too like just like take care everything. I don't know why I'm like that but I think just naturally like I develop that because like my whole life I've been like that like since I was old enough to like get out and do what I need to do right I always like took care of my mama and my siblings and shit. Right. Yeah. Do you feel that? So when you were in London do you remember much about your dad being around? Yeah I remember my daddy used to come get me like every weekend. I used to be over there because that's like where the majority of like my cousins was at. Right. On my momma's side I only got like like three four cousins but on my daddy's side it's like 30 of them. Right. So that's like like my oldest cousin Teran here in the wheelchair. Okay. I remember like following him behind him a lot. Right. Feel what I'm saying? So that's my daddy's side. Right. So in other words you really love spending time with your dad's side of the family because that's where all the cousins were. That's where you got an opportunity to run and play and just have a good time. It was just deeper. Deep. But my mama's side too because like my cousins on my mama's side was bad as hell too. You see what I'm saying? But it just went a lot of us. Right. Like it was just me, Kyra on this room. Right. We was the only boys on my mama's side. On my daddy's side it was more but well it's only shit it's just different side. Well see if it's only three of y'all the trouble is only going three places. So you, you, you, you're dancing about 30 of y'all so you can play with a whole bunch of people. Oh God. So brought up in the east side on that side of town. Rappers Gucci Mane, Future, OJ the Juice Man, Rich Harvey Quand, Childish Gambino. Did you, did you know any of those guys when you were growing up? You had no idea about these. I seen Gucci before. Okay. Yeah, I seen Gucci before for sure. I see him at church just chicken before like when I was real young. Right. Right. No, Miss Winas. 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Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Zone. I mean, the east side, that's zone six. There's a lot going on. Yeah, east side of Atlanta. There's drugs. There's a lot of killings. Did you? So what did your mom? Did your mom try and shield you like someone you can't be out this time of night? So what, what did she tell you about the area that you, that you guys were going to call home now? I don't, I used to be outside. So I don't remember like her days are like, the only time it'll be a problem is if I got in trouble in school. Right. But other than that, like I went like one in them when the street like come on kids. Right. My mommy used to let me figure it out because in London, it's the same shit. It's, it's, it's damn no worse. Right. Because it's like concrete everywhere. You see what I'm saying? Allies is, it's the inner city. So in London, I used to be outside from what I, well, that was when we went back though. Right. Like from before then, I don't remember being outside that much. But so like, nah, she just used to let me like, let you figure it out. Then I used to be with skinny. Okay. Well, here's your name, Aaron. Okay. I used to be with him and he was older than me. So he was like my big brother. Right. And like, so as long as I was with him, she would give me a little more freedom to do shit. Like as long as he watching over you, you good. Did you always gravitate towards older guys? Yeah. I always hung with like people older than me for sure. Because you felt you was more mature than that than young guys or age. Yeah. For sure. Because I was older. I had to be, I'm the oldest. Right. So you naturally like a little more mature than you have to be. Because if you're not, you're gonna get in trouble. Right. So how was the struggle when your mom moving here? Obviously in a different country, obviously times were difficult for you guys. Did you realize how difficult times were for your mom and your family? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I remember when we first moved, you'd be smoking cigars on here though. You go take off. All right. This your, just your joint. Let's go. But I remember like when we first moved over her, like before we moved to the neighborhood where I went to elementary school. Okay. We moved to another neighborhood on the east side. And I remember like my mama and her nigga, well, her man at that time. Okay. They used to sleep on the bottom bunk. All us, you just sleep on the top. Okay. We used to share like, we shared our apartment with one of their friends. So it was a two-bedroom. Okay. We didn't got evicted before. I remember coming home and our stuff was outside in front of the house. Right. Like growing up, like, I ain't never had my own bedroom. So I was probably like 15 years old or something. Like we all share the room. Like for probably from like first grade till like sixth grade, we shot it was they had a room. My mom and her man had a room. And me and all my siblings had one room in a two-bedroom apartment. Then like, I don't know what happened. They got a little motion. And then we moved in the same apartments, but we used to call it cross the bridge. It's like the other side of the neighborhood. Right. And we had got a three-bedroom. Okay. Okay. The boys had their own room and the girls had their own. And then I met my other big brother when I moved over there. Tovars. Right. They stayed under us. They mom used to do the same thing. Oh, man. You just hung up. Get the broom and bang the roof on hung up. Right. Yeah. But for sure, it was a struggle because like my mama couldn't get no job or no drive is licensed. She couldn't get food stamps. She couldn't do none of that shit. Right. So you know it's a struggle. Right. So she's basically working any job that she can get. Maybe, you know, maybe cleaning floors, maybe in the kitchen or doing things of that nature, trying to make ends meet to put food on the table and a roof over the head for the kids. The one job I remember having. She, I don't think she never like did like no cleaning floors type shit. But the one job I remember having was like a daycare. And they used to pay them under the table. Right. I remember hearing them conversations though, like being nosy because I ain't even supposed to know that as a child. But I remember hearing them talk about it. Right. And she, she used to work at all them used to work at the day. Her, her man. And then the other families that I told you move with us, they used to work there too. And they used to pay them under the table like cash and shit. That's the only job that I remember though. Yeah. When you came home from school one day and you saw your family belongings outside, did the kid, how did that make you feel? Did the kids make fun of you? Did you realize what was going on when you saw all of your belongings on the outside? Yeah, because I didn't seen it happen beforehand. I remember like, we used to steal people shit. Like, because I didn't see other people evicted, seeing they stuff outside and like all the kids, the badass kids will be in the neighborhood, walking around, see some shit, start going through that shit. So I just remember instantly thinking like, nobody better not touch my shit. That's like the first stop. And I remember standing out of there, but I remember like, I didn't really care about it that much because they put our shit out, but we instantly moved to a bigger apartment. So it kind of was like, it wasn't like we just, our shit was just out there and we was trying to figure out, right? Feel what I'm saying? Like, I remember us moving to a bigger apartment like instantly. Okay. Type shit. So what was what was a typical meal in the household? Oh, we had food. Yeah, good for you. Not like staking shit though. Ramen hot dogs. Yeah, yeah, like that. Okay. Like, we had the regular, you know, but not like, I don't remember no time like, well, I just want nothing to eat in the house. Right. It's gonna be some bread. We used to make like, condensed milk sandwiches like them was like, I struggle with me. Right. Like you take the, you get the bread and the condensed milk, and then you put it in like the little toaster shit, and you put it together. That shit be good as fuck, wrong guy. You eat one of them now? Yeah, yeah, I will. Oh, God. But like, you know, hot dogs and noodles, my mom used to make noodles stir-fry, right, ramen noodles. Right. Curry chicken, jerk chicken, all that type of shit. Did you, are you being the oldest? Did you learn how to cook? Could you cook? Sure. Because I'm assuming like, a lot of times your mom probably was working, and you had to take care of your brothers and sisters. So it was left up to you to probably cook the ramen or warm the food up so they could eat when you got home from school. Not cooked though, like the most my momma would make me do is like, unthought a food to me. Okay. Like take the meat out, I used to get my ass what if I forget to take the meat out? Right. And put, because she don't play about the lemon, like don't just sit in the water, put lemon juice in the water when you sit in the water. So sometimes I take the meat out and just sit it in the water without no lemon. Right. Getting in trouble. Okay. But she ain't never just made me cook, but we used to make our own little food that we want. Like, so if my little brother was hungry and they wanted like a pack of noodles, I made them some noodles or some shit. Okay. Right. Yeah. Um, obviously we talked a lot about your mom. What's the relationship like with your dad? Me and my daddy ain't like a weird place because he got his side of how he look at it. I got my side of how I look at it. Okay. Like, like, I kind of understand like, okay, if your child moved to another country, it's kind of hard type shit, but from a child point of view, all I can do is go out the emotion that I felt as a child. Like, I can't, I can't tell you how it would feel about it as a adult. Right. Because the, the hurt come from when I was a child. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, it's like me, me whipping you as a child and then expecting you to receive the pain as a adult. Right. Hell no, I don't, I know how it felt when it happened. Right. I know I felt abandoned. That's how I felt. I felt like I used to see like other kids in the neighborhood. Well, not in the neighborhood, but remember the family that I told you that move? Yes. I had a friend, well, he liked my cousin, basically. Rock him. Mm-hmm. He was in the same predicament. Like, he was in another country with his momma was with another man, and I was a step daddy. And his daddy used to come visit him all the time. Oh. Buy him shit. Mm-hmm. So I used to be kind of jealous of, of what he had going on. Right. And so that's, that's where a lot of the disappointment came from with my daddy. But my daddy was a good daddy to my siblings over there. Right. Like my little brother who died, my little brother got killed. Right. On my daddy's side. Right. They was best friends. You know what I'm saying? I got twin little sisters and I got another little brother. They all love my daddy. You see what I'm saying? So I can't just say you know bad daddy. Right. When me, I feel like you didn't do what you was supposed to do. The relationship that they have with him is not the relationship you have with him. Facts. Right. Because you saw, you said the family that moved with you. You saw his mom, even though she was in a foreign country and she had ended up having another man, his dad still came over and would see him and buy him things. And so did you explain that to your father? Saying look, rock him dad, his mom is with someone else and he found it time to come over here and see him and buy him things and spend time with him. Did you convey that to him? Not as a child. Not as a child. Okay. But like my little brother died in 2020. Okay. And like that was me and my daddy first time talking in like 15, 20 years type shit. Savage. I mean, you, you didn't, you didn't reach out. When like at any point in time before that 15 years was up, did you not reach out and try to have a conversation with your father? Because like when I turned 21, I got shot. Okay. And my mama came in the, like while I was in the ICU, she brought the phone. Well, I don't know if I was in ICU. I don't know where I was at, but it was like fresh. It was right after I got to the hospital. Okay. And my best friend had just died, like in the incident. So like I just remember being like mad. I was more mad than sad. So she tried to hand me the phone. But I remember telling my daddy like, cause my mama and her, my like my sib, four of my siblings got the same daddy. I got my own daddy and then my little youngest sister got on that. Okay. So my mama was moved out here when she came out here. The father of my four younger siblings, he came like a little later. Okay. And we all was together. Okay. So when they had broke up, I took it was like, you ain't my daddy. I got to figure my own life out. Like I can't be up under your roof no more because my mama left. Right. So I left. So I remember communicating like to my daddy like your biological father. Yeah. Like, like I'm in the street at this time, but I'm telling him like, I figure it out. Like I don't expect you to just be able to just put me up in a apartment and just pay my rent every month. But I'm like, can you contribute like a hundred or two hundred dollars? And I'm gonna figure the rest out. I'm probably like 16, 17 at this time. This like years before I got shot. Okay. I remember communicating to him like, can you help a little bit? Like my mama ain't got you on child support. You don't really send no money like that. And it ain't no disrespect. Cause he went in like, he be taking shit like me telling my story is like trying to down him. But this is my truth. This is what I remember. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like from what I remember, he wasn't really sending all money to my mama. Okay. And my mama wasn't just pressing him for no money because she had a man. Right. So you see what I'm saying? So I remember communicating that. And I remember like, it not coming through. So now I got to go extra harder in the lane that I'm in. Right. As a 16, 17 year old. You feel what I'm saying? Cause I got to fend for myself damn near. I got to feed myself. Like I've been staying with friend to friend to friend. You feel what I'm saying? Right. So I remember feeling let down by that on top of all the other times that I was let down when I was young and I wanted shoes or a phone or a disc or that, a new video game. You feel what I'm saying? So at a certain point, I remember like, I got old enough to where I was like, I own, I don't even care to talk. So that's how that build up came of me not talking to him about him years. You feel what I'm saying? Right. So in 2020, your brother gets lose his life, right? Yeah. At that point in time, did you think about putting everything else aside and try to real establish a relationship with the father? I did. And we got on the phone and he started doing some things that were on me the wrong way. Like, like just asking me for shit like too early and like. So at this point in time, you had already become what you become. Yeah, in 2020, I'm 21st Avenue. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. But I kind of like fell back and then like, you know, like when I do interviews, these questions come up and I just, I'm truthful. So I think that might have rubbed him the wrong way. You know what I'm saying? Type shit. Oh, okay. So you went back, your parents come, you come over here and you go back. So how long were you over here before you went back for a month, two months, three months? We came out here. I was seven, six. I was six, turn to seven. We went back the summer of sixth grade going into seventh grade. So how about yours? Okay. So probably 11, 12. Yeah. So probably like what five years was over a five years. Because I know, I know whatever it was, it was right before the visa expired. We went back and then renewed it. Okay. Type shit. You go over there with it. Did you remember anything about London? Because you had now, you had spent just as much time in America as you had London. Because remember you five or six when you left, you stayed five, six, seven years here. And you go back, did it seem like home or did it seem unfamiliar to you? It seemed like home. Even when I just went back for the first time and what? I don't know how many years that is. The last time I went when I was 12 and I just went last year when I was 30, that's what? 18 years, I still remember how to get to my grandma house. Because it's a parking lot and you got to walk through to get to the house. I still remember how to walk to the house. I still remember how to walk to the store. Right. So it's like, I remember, I don't remember everything, but I remember like key like major parts type shit. Once you get, once you get over there, did you yearn to come back? Like, yeah, I like London, but the US is my home now. When I was young, when I went back to visit, I think I was ready to go home. Not like just in a rush, but it was like, I, now I miss my other friends. Right. I miss y'all. We didn't kick it now. Right. Ready, go back. Yeah. So school, how were you in school? What type of student were you in school? I was an excellent student up until it's earned grade. Okay. Like, I feel like, like, um, we was just talking about this last night, we was playing the game. And they was like, um, spell super califragilistic SBL adoptions. And it was crazy because I wasn't a spelling bee in fifth grade, spelling that same word. Wow. And I won the math competition that same year. Okay. So I used to get all A's, but like, up until a certain point, I feel like when I, when I found out, like, really just realized, like, I, no matter how good I do in school, I can't go to college because I'm an immigrant. I can't get a job. I can't get no driver's license. I feel like once that started to kick in, I kind of just gave up, like, and just stopped caring. I used to go to school, fall asleep in class. Like, just do all types of shit. Right. So once you realize like, man, as smart as I am, math was one of the math competition, one of the spelling bee, I can only advance so far in school. Now I might need to try a different path. Yeah. So you go on this. So it's cool. So how, so how were the other kids towards you? Because you're smart. Normally kid, they pick on kids that are smart. I was the cool kid. Oh, you the cool smart kid. Yeah. Okay. Because I used to do bad stuff too. I just had, I just had good grades. But I still used to skill, fight, like do all the little mischievous things that I was doing in school. But I, I was just smart. I'm still smart. Did you get bullied in school? No, I didn't really get bullied. I'd have issues with people. Right. Not just like, you ain't finna just put my head in the toilet or take my lunch money. All right. So that's what it was. I mean, the older kids trying to take advantage of you. Yeah. And you like, nobody never tried to do that to me. I'm just saying like, I'm not one of them kids. I was never one of them kids. Right. You ain't letting nothing slide. No, my mom ain't even going for that. Right. Like, I remember like getting tried in the neighborhood. Right. My mom and them coming outside to fight with us. What? Where your mom at? Facts. Mom, put it down like that. I remember one time, like, it was this lady. And my little sister used to be real cool with this lady daughter. Right. But I was just known as the bad kid in the neighborhood. Right. So somebody spray painted, spray painted. Fuck you all over her car. She had her like a Lexus. Oh man. The little bubble Lexus. Right. But it was like, it wasn't like the suit. It was just like a regular little Lexus. Okay. So she come straight to my door. My mom ain't home though. Banging on the door. Where your bad ass at? I know you did this shit. So she come to the door. So my auntie was down the street. I guess my little sister ran and told my auntie. So my auntie come down. My auntie come down by this time they didn't call my mama. I remember my mama just smashing through the neighborhood in her minivan. I remember I had some scissors. I hadn't broke the scissors. So it was just one side of the scissors like this. So my mama pull up swerve and she part right in front of the lady bed. So the lady out there on the lady standing like on the car like with her back on the car. My mama jump out the truck. Bitch. She didn't mush the lady. On God. But the lady didn't want to fight. So my mama didn't really just mash the gas on the type of shit. On God. And me and my love brothers, you know, we geek. It's all of us. Then we got friends. Right. Like and our friends down there like our family. Like we like this the hood. Right. Down there like this outside. Right. So they all out there like ready. Like they was going to beat her up. But she she she bit her tongue. And all my mama really didn't do the shit. Right. It really wasn't me who spray painted her car. Right. That's how you know reputation is. Your reputation preceded you. Because you used to get this stuff. And they just automatically threw it down. Savage did it. Oh God. That shit was crazy. And I was innocent as a motherfucker. So you go to school. You end up getting kicked out of school because you bought a firearm at school. Yeah. What made you feel you need? What made you feel like you needed to bring that firearm? I think I was just mad. Like we were it was like some issues where a group of people from like another neighborhood that we didn't really get along with was saying like they was supposed to be trying to fight us. And they was deep. It wasn't number like five, six of us. Because all my friends are older. So they in high school. Right. You see what I'm saying? Right. Okay. Like the people that I hang with. That's like I feel like it's like me. It's only a few. It was like three of us. 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So I started thinking like, I don't want to just be, had this motherfucker home. In school suspension. Yeah. I ain't want to just have it on me all day. Right. So I'm like, let me hide it. And it was this little bitch-ass look. Like he ain't even really, I don't even really fuck with him. He just happened to beat up while I'm hiding the shoe. Oh, man. I ain't even thinking about this shit at the time. I didn't put this shit up under some leaves and some bushes and shit. So I guess they see us on the camera. But on the camera, they can't really tell who doing what. They can see me and him right there doing something. I don't know how that happened though, but they found it. They end up finding it. So they come get me out of ISS with the, it was the school officer. His name was Valentino of Valencia or some shit. But he was a police officer but school police. They come get me out of ISS. They walk me into the assistant principal office. But they know me like all the, because you know like, and kids, this thing for me, I'm not bragging about this, but when you bad as hell in school, you have a assigned counselor type shit. And normally your counselor is one of the assistant principals type shit. So I didn't have been canceled by all of them type shit. So they come get me out of ISS. They bring me in the office. The nigga who was dealt while I was hiding the shit, he right there in the office. I'm like, oh shit, he didn't damn you out. I know what this about. So they bring me in the office. They're like, yo, what was in the, I'm like, I don't know. What y'all talking about? I don't know, nothing. I don't know. I wasn't doing shit. So I just sit there. Then I just, every time I used to get in trouble, I'd just get an attitude and get mad. And so I don't got an answer to shit. I just be like, man, bro. Just stop talking. So I stopped talking. So they like, all right, come on. They bring me back to ISS. So I'm like, oh, I'm straight. So I'm seeing the ISS. They start calling like, you know, they'd be like buses, walkers, riders, woo, woo. So everybody started going. So I get up off the roof. Like I ride the bus. Right. But they let, I think either walkers or riders out first. Right. I get up as soon as the first one. Get up. So I'm walking out of ISS. I'm walking out of, you know, ISS in the trailers. Mm-hmm. So I'm walking down the hill. I see the school police. He's walking towards me. Come get me, cuff me. I'm like, ah, shit. But all I was worried about was my mom. It's like, when you young and you getting in trouble, you don't give a damn about nothing else. But what y'all mama gonna say? I don't got that cuff me up. Took me to arm. They tried to do some fake scare, straight shit. They took me to arm the big jail, the cab counter. Right. Um, but like they used to like, I don't know how they do it now, but back in the day, they used to book you in the big jail. Not like put you in the big jail, but they like the juvenile facility was right there, but they'll take your pictures and shit at the big jail. Right. So when they bring us in, I guess they told one of the inmates, like start banging on the window or some shit to scare us. I don't like bro with the fuck. That didn't work. No. Now, big ass dope. Right. What you gonna bust through the dough and do something to me? So now they ban you. You cannot go to school in the cab county, correct? No, that ain't, that was that. I got on probation for that. You got on probation for that one. Okay. Right. Next year, no, this, yeah, this, this eighth grade. I'm doing good. I'm still on probation, playing football or whatever. So I'm at the back of the bus without a cool kid. Okay. We on the way to school, these niggas, it was this song when we was young called T bagged out. Man, these niggas in the back, they start being on the window, T bagged out, T bagged out, banging on the window. So people start on shit, because we had a substitute bus drive. Oh man, this is. They start throwing paper at the bus driver. I'm just bad that I ain't really doing shit, because I'm on probation. So I'm chilling, but I'm laughing and shit. I think I was singing the song a little bit. Man, they come get us. They treat us like we got down. There's some, some serious shit. They come get everybody. Everybody who was in the back of the bus, they put us in the library. They had a, like, it was some girls who was like, telling about what happened. They got down. I think some of the boys were like grabbing the girls. You type shit, bringing the girls back down. Shit, girls was sending on people laps. And just bad shit. Right. So they had some girls who started telling, like they got in trouble. Like if you don't tell who was doing it, we're going to tell your parents that you've been being fast back then. Right. So we got down. I just remember they had, we had like a, they used to call that shit like a hearing, a hearing in the library. They bringing all us to the window. They got girls lined up. We got to put our face set in the window like the hell they like. Yup, they said him. They put my face. I ain't even dead shit. They like, yup, him. So when that happened by me being on probation already, that's when they keep me out of the office school. Right. Shit. For that incident. For they lied on you. Hell yeah, they lied on me, man. You sure, I mean, you sure you had no, you had no involvement. I should have never been back. Yeah. Once they started doing all that issue. You should have gotten went to the front. Got up and went to the front. Right. So they didn't really lie, I was back there. Right. I just wasn't doing all the shit that they was doing. I was in the mixed type shit. Did you have to go to juvenile detention for that? That was just like some school shit. Because they like, nigga, you on probation. Right. You still don't know how to act. So they informed your mom. That's when they kicked you out of the Cal County. Right. Yeah. So they tell your mom, what'd your mom say? I think that's the first time I really just got grounded. Like, well, you can't even leave the house, but I still was leaving the house. My momma know that shit, though. She know that shit. Because yeah, I got grounded. Because, matter of fact, on God. So, boom. My momma, she ain't with me by then. I'm too grown. Right. Ain't no woman. So I get home and shit. She like, you ain't leaving. You can't go nowhere. Sit inside the house. Watch all the brothers and sisters type shit. It's because at this time, my little brother, Ru Ru, he was probably like two with some shit. So I used to have the babysit. But my little sister, old enough to watch them too. Right. So, it was this little boy in the neighborhood. I ain't gonna say it. I don't even remember his name anyway, but he was like younger than me. So, I'm outside. We at the park. The park, like, right behind our building. So, yeah, I'm at the parking ship. He woke up like, right, I got some keys. I found some keys to this lady car. They're living the next building. So, I grabbed the keys. I take the keys. I'm like, what car there? He showed me the car. I'm like, all right, all right. So, I don't post the beat outside. No. So, I got down. I go get the car. I crank it up. I'm like, oh shit. Have you ever driven a car before? Yeah. My mama, my mama, my mama, my mama, my mama, my mama, shit. Yeah, I don't got it. So, so, so I'm like, oh shit, it's the real key. So, I jump out. I walk out, I walk back to the park. So, you know how when you're young, you're doing something bad. You always need somebody with you to do it too. Like, you ain't gonna just do it by yourself. Right. So, I forgot who it was. It was somebody. Oh, it was, it was my partner. I forget his name. Terry, he used to live across the bridge though. He was spoiled though. He was the only child. Right. They lived in the townhouse. Okay. So, I used to kind of like be jealous of him, but I used to, I used to fuck with him too. He used to have all the games. Right. Unlimited snacks. Oh, God. So, I went and got Terry. I got a car, I got a hot box. That's what we call like a stolen car. Right. I got a boss. I got a boss. So, I go get him. We go get him the car. So, we driving around the neighborhood. Spinning like swerving, like, burning out, burning out, but just like drifting. Right. So, I go park the car. We jump out. We go back to the park again with chilling. Probably like 30 minutes go past some like shit. Let's go ride. Let's go ride. So, goddamn. Now, I feel like I didn't master the car. So, now I'm trying to do extra shit. So, I get in the car. I reverse it. But we, the car is parked directly in front of the people, like building that apartment building. Right. So, when we pull him out, we like trying to ease off and then hurry up and smash off. So, I put the car in reverse and I back out the parking spot. So, but he working the gear. Right. I'm just hoping. You need to ride real quick. Yeah. So, I'm thinking this nigga put the car in dry. This nigga got in reverse. I didn't smash on the gas. Boom. Boom. Hit the truck. Man, I'm like, oh shit. Shit, shit. I hurry up and park the car. Get out the car. We take our rent in the back because I ain't want to rent in this way because my building right here. Right. So, we were in behind the building and I went through the back way of my building and go change my clothes. Type shit. So, I come back out the county police out there. So, I walk up. So, they're like, who seen where they went? Who seen where they went? I'm like, I seen them. They had on white. They ran that way. They ran that way. My bitch has little cousin and told his mom and it was me. Oh, man. So, the police don't know, but my momma know. Right. So, now I got them. They heat and told, but I think I can't remember. I got a car my mama asked her like, did she whip me about that? Because I think she, that's like, she punched me about that. Like, oh, a sum. I remember I got in big trouble for that. And I just remember that being like, a couple days after the school bus incident, because that was like fresh. Like, I really wasn't posted to the outside. Right. You supposed to be inside. Yeah. You not only are you outside, you doing some-- Oh, that's how I got to go outside. On guard. I told my mama I was taking my little brother to the park. Okay. So, my little brother was at the park with my little sister. Right. That's how I got outside. Uh, okay. Oh, God. So, you were supposed to be outside. You just weren't supposed to be in the hoodie shit. Oh, God. Ooh, scoot. Yeah. And your brother, right? He died you out. My little cousin. Little cousin there. Yeah. He told his mama that it was me. And my, his mama told my mama type shit. But did the police ever find out it was you? No. Well, you straight there. Statue of limitations, huh? Oh, God. Yeah. Sports. Did you play sports? I played football, but I was too smart. But I tried. You tried. But really, I had to for probation. Okay. Like, they was like, you got to be in as many extracurricular activities as possible to keep you from doing shit. Just being at home doing nothing. Right. So, I had to. But then, like, I only played one season because at the end of the season, my mama then didn't have enough money to pay the dues. Right. So, I only played one season. I probably got on the field three times. What position did you play? Why receiving in cornerback? Okay. Had you stuck with it, you think you'd have been pretty good? Yeah. Because I ended up getting taller. Like, as I got older. Right. So, probably, yeah. For sure. But I started going to school. In ninth grade. You might have been an NFL player. Facts. But I don't think the average, do the, how much money do the average NFL player make? Do they make more than a rapper? (coughing) No! It all depends on me. I think I went the right route. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, unless you play quarterback. Now, quarterback, they make some bread. Yeah. They make 40, 50 million a year. Yeah. But you're doing better than that too. So, you did the right thing. Yeah, facts. Yeah, you ain't taking, you don't got to take no hits. Yeah, no. Yeah, I be bruised up. Yeah. And I'm not going to be pushing me to the ground and all that. So, you go to the ninth grade. Well, that's the farthest you went in school, right? Yeah. You dropped out. So, I got kicked out eighth grade. Oh, you got kicked out of eighth grade? For the second semester of eighth grade. What did you do to get kicked out? The butt shit. Oh, so yeah, but you had, but I thought you could go, if you went to another county outside of the cab, you were straight. I still, that's what we thought. So, we moved up the street to Gwynette County. Mm-hmm. And I had to go to alternative school. Right. In Gwynette County. Right. And they make you well, like, that shit was just different, bro. Like, because when I went to alternative school, in the cab county, you know, it's black kids. It's still like, it's still like regular. Right. I got out there, it was just none but Mexican. But it was some black people too, but this one, I first learned about gangs and shit. Right, okay. Type shit. So, I went there for a semester, then I went to South Gwynette High School for like, probably like, a semester, then they was trying to kick me out, because I was smelling like weed in school, falling asleep in class. But this is about around the time, when I'm telling you, like, I ain't really feel like shit was going to get me nowhere, because I'm an immigrant. Right. So, I just stopped caring. Right. So, my mom is just with DREAMer type shit. And she started, like, trying to home school me and shit. And then, that shit. I don't know, it's just eventually, I just, I don't know what the hell happened. But it just stopped. You just kind of realized that that school ain't for me. Yeah, I don't got it. Right. Yeah. And so, once you realize, like, school ain't for me, what are you going to do? You got to do something. Cheer hustle. Shit, that's all I could do for real. Did you ever get your DED? No, I'm finna get it though. So, when you, okay, your mom takes you out of school? I got my G. No, I don't think I do. Your mom takes you out of school. She's going to try to home school you. You're like, if it, this ain't for me. What do you tell your mom? Mom, school ain't for me. Hey, I'm not going this home school and they working. I'm going to get on this grind. Or did you, or did you just, like, I just got to do what I got to do? Honestly, my momma always just knew, like, because I used to be getting trouble for, like, having cars lined up outside the house and shit. So, like, cars lined up outside the house. Yeah, type of shit. You a general manager at a car dealership or something? That's the only way that's supposed to happen. Like, people outside waiting in the car and shit. Okay, yeah. So, I feel like she had an idea. But I think I was just too grown. Even though I was young, I was just, like, grown. Like, I can't explain it. It was, like, you were much older than your age. Yeah, like, you can't tell me nothing because I already be gone. Forgot down two, three weeks at a time, type of shit. So, it's like, if you tell me something, I'm gonna just get the hell on. Right. And go do it somewhere else. So, when did the affiliation with the gang, when did that come about? Like, I don't know. I feel like when you from the hood, they just automatically, like, affiliate you with the gang. Right. Just growing up in the area. Did you feel unique? I ain't never been initiated into no gang. Right, you know, shit. Yeah. So, you're not a part of a gang. If you people just assume, Yeah. Because you doing devious, you know, stuff. Right. Right. Stealing the cars and whatever else was going on, they just automatically assume you were a part of a gang. Right. Just from being from a certain side of town. Right. Yeah. So, did they say anything? Did your mom, them, say anything? Tell you, like, bro, what you gonna do with your life? I think, I think my mommy used to, like, beg my daddy to, like, step up, type shit. More than, like, to me, like, because I feel like she felt, she probably felt like shit. What else can he do for him? Right. Type shit. And it wasn't like I was just stupid. Like, I kind of knew what I was doing. Type shit. So, I think she more used to, like, say that shit to my daddy, like, come, like, get him or come be with him or. But then again, it's like, she probably was saying that. But I wouldn't, I wouldn't have went for that, though. Yeah, I was about to say, even if he had come, if he had come to the States and tried to take you back, were you gonna go? Younger, yeah, I probably would have, like, 16, 17. Right. But by the time I was 20. But you grown ass, man, I mean, he can't get you to go nowhere. Right. I had my son, though. Right. So it wasn't, that wasn't an option no more. Right. Type shit. I had my son the same year I got shot. So that was 2013. Right. 20. So you was 20? Yeah. Take us back to that date. Do you remember anything about that date? About it. The day you got shot and your friend got killed, do you remember anything about that date? Was it a normal day? Did you wake up like, oh, this is a Tuesday? This is a Wednesday? I'm gonna start my day. I'm gonna go and carry on. What was about that day? Did anything feel different? Yeah, kind of. Some, it ain't really feel different, but when I look, you know how you, in the moment, you don't, it don't feel different. Right. But you look back on it, and it's like, damn. Because that day was my birthday. Okay. So like... He was turning 21, correct? Yeah. Okay. It was my birthday. His mama birthday and his nephew birthday. Okay. Y'all got the same birthday. So I was trying to like book a hotel room so we could have like a kickback and shit. Okay. Like for that weekend. And he called me because I had like a couple cars and shit. Like, but they were not stolen cars, like cars I paid for. Okay. And one of my cars, I had speakers in the trunk. Like, you know how people put speakers in the trunk. And one of his speakers went out and one of his cars. So he needed one of mine and he was like, shit, I'ma just give you one of mine. When I, whenever I go buy a new one, I don't feel like going up that now. So, and he was like, I want to see Kumar too, my son. Right. So I was in that house. I was with my other partner. He ended up getting killed too. His name, one one. I was with him. He was like, Ryan with me and shit. He was trying to get that. He was going to get the hotel room in his name because I ain't got no ID. I ain't got no license. So I needed somebody to get the room in their name. So I was around with him and shit. And Johnny is my friend who was with me that got killed. He had went to my mama house because me and my mama, me and my mama, last baby daddy, like my little sister daddy, we had, I went in like was paying rent on the house. They was paying more than me. But I was paying, I was paying like 500. They was probably paying like 600 or some shit. And so we was all staying together. So he had, because remember I told you, like my mama and her, other baby daddy broke up. Right. And she didn't have nowhere to go type. Right. So we finally back together in the house. So Johnny had went to my mama house and he went to see my mama, went to see my son and he had got to speak out the car and shit. Okay. But I remember like that whole day, now that you said like, I remember that whole day, I kept telling myself like, I got to pull up on Johnny. I got to pull up on Johnny type shit, because he wanted something that I had and I wanted something that he had. Right. So, after he seen my son and shit, and that was his first time just going to see my son on his own. Like he never did that before type shit. So after he went to go see my little boy and shit, I had pulled up at his house. And he was like, he was like, ride with me somewhere. Right. Quick. I got a hundred some shit. He was like, I don't feel like going to my car though. Let's just ride in your car. Because I was in one of my little plug plugs, like a hoopby type shit, like a low key car. So got down the shit so crazy because like, when we was in the car on the way to wherever he was trying to go to, his grandma car, and his grandma was on the exact same street. But where we was going was to the left, and where his grandma was at was to the right, but on the same street. And she called like right before we turned on the street. Like we was at the light waiting to go left type shit. So when I used to think back on it, I used to be like, damn, like, you know how they'd be like in life? You got a choice like which way you can go type shit. And I used to be like, damn, if he would have went right, he would have still been alive type shit. So we made, we ended up making a left or whatever. We ended up pulling up or whatever. And like a nigga just jumped in the back seat and just like, get up type shit. Then a whole bunch of this shit started happening. Do you think with the setup? Because I mean, you say, this is a bucket. This is the car that, you know, low key, don't nobody really know that the people know you had this car? Not people who knew me. Because I was always like a super low key. Right. Like I got a flat, I had a flashy car too. Right. But no, I didn't nobody know about this car for real. I'd be thinking back on like a lot of shit. Because even like after that shit, I used to be like, damn, I didn't deal like a lot of shit to a lot of people type shit. So I used to be like, this shit could have came from any other type of shit. So that day I used to cross my mind. But I don't really know. Did you feel you let your guard down? Do you allow somebody to get the jump on you like that? Not really, not really. Because I was on point. I think that's how I made it type shit. Like I was already looking back type shit. Did you know the guy? I ain't know. So he says, give it up. Whatever you had on you like, okay, bro. Hey, whatever I got here, take. You didn't have it. 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One arm was standing up outside the car. Okay. Type shit. So the one who was standing outside the car, he shot me off the rim right here. Okay. Because I'm turned like this. So he like, fuck nigga. Type shit. Okay. Then he take off running. So now it's just me and Buddy in the back seat. Okay. But my brother, he um, like I remember screaming to him type shit because me and Buddy started going back and forth. Like his arm was like over the seat and my arm was like over the seat. Okay. So I remember like, but I was shocked. So I remember saying like, like, Johnny, shoot him. Shoot him. Shoot him. Type shit. And me and Buddy was just going back and forth. And then he started, Buddy in the back seat started screaming like, ah, ah, for you hit him. Yeah. But I was hit up too. Right. So when I remember like the gun jam type shit. So I had caught the back again. And when I put my arm over the seat, he put his gun on my arm and shot me. So my gun fell out my hand. And I remember it's fighting over my gun. Then it went off one more time. Boom. I got shot right here in my hand from holding the gun type shit. Then he got up and he tried to run and he collapsed type shit. And then I remember, um, that's when I had an iPhone then. This was probably like the iPhone three or some shit ugly ass out. So got down. I remember like trying to unlock the phone to call 911. And like my blood kept drying up the screen. Right. Shit. So I remember I got out the car. But first that's how I knew Johnny was dead type shit. Because like after Buddy got out the car and ran, I remember I told Johnny like, pull off, pull off, pull off. And then the car went moving, but his foot was on the gas. Right. It was in park. Right. So the engine was just like revving. Then it was like some movie shit. The windshield wipers was like, but it wasn't raining. Right. And then you know, the door like when you got the door up and thing, thing, thing, like the alarm to tell you close the door type shit. So I jumped out the car. I went and knocked on somebody door. They didn't come to the door. So I went back to the car and got down. I unlocked my phone. I finally like, I didn't even unlock it. Back then it was like slide for emergency car. Right. So I ended up sliding the car down. I'm wondering like, yeah, I'm shot. They get to ask and I'll type just dick that ask questions. Like, what the fuck, bro? Like, I'm shot with what's street, man. What the fuck you mean, what's street? I don't know the street. I'm just shot. Right. Type shit. So they like, I remember telling them like my brother dad, my brother dad type shit. And then I remember laying there and I guess the nigga who was driving them niggas, he came looking for the nigga who was in the back seat. I guess he couldn't find the nigga. So got down. They, he rode back past and I remember being on the phone because I thought that was finna ride back past the hands of the business. Right. So I just scooped back type shit. I was on the phone. They like, they run back past type shit. Then I remember the police pulled up. I don't even think I told her. I think I just put the phone like down type shit and just did like that. Then the police pull up. So I get out the car because I'm a victim. I'm like, man, this nigga told me I put your hands up. He put your hands up. Let me see your hands. I'm like, but I can only put, I can only put this arm up. Because remember, I told you he shot me on this arm. So I put the arm up. I'm like, I'm shouting this on. I'm shouting this on. He like sit on the curb and put both of your hands behind your back. I'm like, man, I'm shouting this on. I can't put it behind my back. He like, put it behind your back. So I think I just like, mean this shit like that type shit. Then I sat right there for a minute, then the ambulance pulled up. And when the ambulance got there, I remember the lady, it was a white lady. I want them to see her like, so I wonder like how she doing type shit. But she was in the back of the ambulance. So they put me on the scratching and shit. They cut my clothes open, put me on the stretcher. So she put me in the back. And she was like, um, she was like, um, let's hurry up and get him to the hospital before the sergeant get here. And he bleed to death type shit. Because I guess like when, when you were in critical condition or some shit, like, um, well, I only think I was in critical condition. I think I was just bleeding a lot. Right. I guess like, they, they objective is for the detective to hurry up and ask you questions just in case. Right. Type shit. So she was like, hurry up. So they put me in the ambulance and we just went to the hospital. How many times did you get hit? Six. And then no by the lorgans though. No, no by the organs. So what do you think happened to you? He got friendly fire? My brother. Yeah, the one that was in the car with you. No, I think the dude in the backseat shot him in the head. Oh, okay. Like when it first happened. Right. Because he had his gun on him too. Right. But he never shot. Right. So that's why when you're saying Johnny shoot him, he couldn't because he had already got hit. Yeah. I think he got hit like off the road. Real type shit. Right. Yeah. So what happened to the guy that was in the back that ended up collapsing? Did he live? Yeah, he lived. Okay. He was paralyzed. Right. I don't know about now. But that's what I heard. You know how you hear shit in the street, but you don't know. Right. Yeah. He lived though. From what I remember. Right. What I know. Yeah. The guy that they ever find the guy that shot you. Then was outside the car. Yeah, they they they they I don't know about that. I know they found two people, but I didn't know what they looked at like. Right. So I couldn't tell like the police shit really it was dark type. Right. So I think they ended up they got charged and then it got thrown out from type shit. You think about that? Do you think about that day? What could have been what? What could you have done differently? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I ain't even want to really ride with them that day. Because I was really just trying to chill. It was my birthday. Right. We had some shit like some drinking shit, some looking shit was when they get drunk. So I was really just going over that at kick it with them. Right. Type shit. So yeah, I'd be thinking about that. But the main thing I think about is like like I heard his grandma on the phone telling him like I'm ready because he pick up from work every day. Right. And I just used to think like damn, I wish he would have just went and got his grandma instead type shit. Because he wouldn't got his grandma. You wouldn't have been in the car. You wouldn't have been there. He wouldn't have been there. And that day would have never happened. Facts. Yeah. Don't got it. You seen a lot of tragedy. Your uncle ended up getting killed. That wasn't my real uncle though. Right. But remember I told you like how we like made like a family over here. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He got killed when I was in third grade. I remember I was I think I was sleep, but I was so bad. I probably was up. But I remember it was a school night. And I remember um just hearing like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and I remember jumping up and I remember jumping up and looking at my window. And then my mama came in the room and just started hugging me type shit started holding me. But I was so young. I think I knew it was gunshots, but some was telling me it was firecraft. Right. So I go back to sleep. And I remember um getting up the next like a couple hours later, like that was probably like 2 in the morning. I had to get up, probably like some for school. Right. And I remember like um my mama was ironing my outfit for school and shit. And the news was on. And they was like um I think it was five of them that got killed that night. It was like four or five. It might have been six. It was like the dudes came. They killed big boy, which was like my uncle. They killed um Swiss shot and like another one of they partners in like two maintenance men. And then I remember like um my mama telling me or it was either my mama or my stepdad. It was like yeah, they killed big boy type shit. But then when I got older, you know how you replay shit back in your head. I was like he brought the wrong person because I remember like all that week he had went and bought one of the new Tahoes, the Z-72 trucks. What? The Z-71? Yeah, the two daughters. Yeah, I know exactly what you talking about. Yeah, that's the high air. Yeah, he had bought one of them. He had um I remember walking down there because like when I was young, they used to like give me like little dollars and shit and I used to like rap. Like do little like like three bars and some shit and they'll give me some dollars. I remember one time like that week I went down there and they was like all outside by the Z-71. Like they was on the truck, shooting on the truck, smoking and shit. I remember I seen like a big ass bag of weed probably like five pounds of some shit. Wow, just bags of weed on the like hood of the car. And I remember um one of them, one of them, his name was Kevin. He used to have a box Chevy on 23s with the Jordan logo on him. I remember him like man put that shit up bro. What the hell wrong with y'all? Put that shit up. But I remember like I ain't never seen them, had that much weed. I've seen them smoke weed a million times. They ain't never had that much weed. So I feel like that's what happened but I don't know. I feel like that's what happened though. Hit somebody's stash out huh? Yeah the wrong nigga and they came back because they chased him. He was in like it was some old apartments connected to my apartments and it was a cut. He got down. He got shot in the next apartments. But he was running. He saw him coming. In the head once but he still was alive. And he ran all the way from them apartments, ran like through the cut because the cut is like right next to my bed. He came through the cut and ran all the way down to like to the end. Like well I'm out street. It was a dead end on the out street. And he ran all the way to like well um my cousin's Rakim stayed and he ended up dying like collapsing on a front step type shit. But your 21st birthday that wasn't the first time he had gotten shot was it? Was that the first time you got shot? No that was the second time. The first time was like on some like bullshit though. It was just like a graze for it. And one of just like no just you know what I'm saying? Like I ain't even go to the hospital. Right. Yeah. Whether the accidental was someone intentionally trying to Yeah I think it was an accident. Okay. Yeah. 21st birthday. You lose your partner. You almost lose your life. You watch. You've gotten graze before. Your uncle who got your biological uncle but he was raised up with you so he was considering my uncle. At what point in time savage do you say enough of this? I think like yeah after I got shot. Because you got a kid you got to thinking now you got you got another life to be responsible for. It ain't just you now. For sure. I remember thinking about that too like while I was sitting there and I was like I remember I just kept mumbling like I can't go out like this. Can't go out like this. Can't go out like this type of shit. Now I was just thinking about my little boy type shit. Do you ever lose conscience next? Not from what I remember. Right. You've lived lost siblings. Yeah. You mentioned that I think it's your father had a son that ended up getting stabbed and they're correct. Yeah and learned it in my grandma neighborhood. That's why I just shot my last video at. Yeah. How does one that have experienced death so much? How does one cope with it? It's one thing to know someone's gonna die of old age. We got grandparents or we have someone or they're the terminal illness. Okay that's one thing but to see someone lose their life so young to see a parent bury a child when no one no parents should have to bury a child. It's supposed to be the other way the child bury the parent. How does one begin to cope or wrap their minds around death in that capacity? I don't know. I don't know how to do it. Because I didn't have times like wow I cry sometimes tight shit when I'm by myself and shit but I don't know. I think you just got to be built for this shit like you got to just be built for it. Like you learn how to like just like move forward in life and just accept certain shit but it's like it still hurt though. Right. I don't know like what it I don't know how I cope with it honestly. I read what you said after your brother's death. I took my anger out on you. I wish I could take that itch back. Yeah. What do you think about that? Like like growing up like I ain't really, we ain't really taught like that neither because I used to be like kind of jealous of like the relationship that him and my daddy had. I used to feel like my little brother was the son. He wanted and I was I was the son that he didn't want type shit. So like when me and my my daddy relationship faded it's like me and my relationship with like that whole side of the family faded type shit. But like right before he died we had just started about talking. Okay. So it was like me saying that was like down I regretted all the other the all the years that we wasn't talking because I felt like you was like spoiled by my like you know what I'm saying. Like you was his favorite type shit like he ain't really fucked with me. He went deaf for me how he was deaf for you type shit. Like I remember one time like my daddy had came to visit just the only time he ever came to visit and he had nothing. You was like my mama told him like no my mama baby my step daddy told my mama like they ain't got to spend no money on all hotel. Why the hell they can come stay with us type shit. Y'all barely have enough room for you guys. But shit West Indians just like that. Yeah, right. Okay. Crime in these big strikes. God, we gonna crime in this motherfucker. So so they came and stayed with us and he had brought my little brother with him. And I remember one day he got down. He had then took the van. He had took us to city transit and got down. He only bought my little brother shit. He ain't bought me shit though type shit. And then I remember I think my mama and my step daddy got the argument about that because he took too long with the car and my step daddy had to go to work type shit. So I remember just being like I remember like being in the store and like I was like picking out shit and he went grabbing my shit that I was picking up. But he was grabbing my little brother shit type shit. And I remember like like being jealous like being hurt by that type shit. Right. So I got down. I ain't never say shit though. Like that like when the cause I was too young. So it was kind of like a you know when you young and you feel some type of way about something but you can't say nothing. So it was just like you just eat it. So I remember we got home. I remember them arguing and shit. And then I remember my step daddy telling my daddy like this ain't got nothing to do with you. You good. Like don't worry about nothing. You didn't do nothing wrong. She was supposed to tell y'all what time I had to go to work type shit and got down. I remember my daddy. We go home. We at home now. Well we walk in the house because I think my step daddy told my daddy that why we was like in the parking lot. So we walk in the apartment. We go in the house. I remember my daddy and my momma talking and shit. Then I remember my daddy caught me in the room. And he was like um he was like I ain't gonna lie. I'm home sick type shit. He was like I think I'm a little early. What? Type shit. And I remember being like I remember being like hurt by that too type shit. And then he left type shit. And I remember that's when I first started like being like man fuck this nigga. Like that's my that was my first feeling of life. And my brother. Right. That's when I first started being jealous of my brother. Because I was like you didn't see me in years. You didn't brought my brother out here and bought him all type shit. You ain't about me. Nothing. Right. Type shit. So I think that's where that like jealousy like came from type shit. But I wish I never did that. You're a child with my brother. But I think I couldn't control. No you're a child. That's like anything. I mean if you got two kids and you buy one constantly the other child will become resentful of the child that you buy everything for. And the child that you don't get anything he'll resent both. The child and the parent. Yeah. So it's it's a natural reaction savage. I mean that that was not something that you could consciously like you know what it's okay. You know blob that's not how that's not how a child minds function. Yeah. But it explains why you have the resentment towards your father and you ended up growing even though it wasn't your brother's fault. But still he was getting gifts and things that you weren't. And so you resented him for getting things that you couldn't get. And you resented the father for giving it to him. And you the opportunity that you know you hear people say all the times that you don't make sure you tell someone that you love them. You don't know when it's going to be the last time or you might not get an opportunity. And here where you see you sit back and like man. Yeah. The feelings that I had towards him. What I would give to tell him I love you and I appreciate you and bro. Oh God. Yeah. The type of father that you are. I'm assuming correct me from wrong. Is that you want to be everything that your father wasn't to your son that your father wasn't to you. But I kind of understand like with my daddy like I don't like I have to gave him for all that shit when I was a child. Right. More so like the reason why we're not talking now is because like shit that he did like as a adult. Just kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Right. But like I kind of understand like your child in the whole not a country. You ain't rich. All right. But it was just like the time doesn't cost anything though. Right. But it was like other little things. You see what I'm saying. So it was kind of like but now like with my kids. I be feeling like I don't be doing all the way my job because of my job. Right. Type shit. So I be trying to like balance that out like trying to like it's like you you you work to receive to gain all the success and all the good shit. But it's like I feel like the best parents in my opinion is parents that don't got it all. I feel like broke parents are better than rich parents in my opinion because when you broke you got way more time type shit. Right. So you there for like a lot of the shit like your gifts and shit matter. But they don't matter at the same time. Sometimes all the kids need just time. Your time. Something that a gift can't replace. We see our yo-gotti lost his brother. Yeah. Was coming from was that a funeral and ended up losing in the son. His brother ended up losing his life. Let's say how do we how do we stop that cycle. Because I heard Rick Ross call and say bro let's put the guns down. Let's put the math style. Let's let's come together. Yeah. Let's build this. Let's build these communities. Let's get this paper together. Let's stop this senseless virus. How? I don't know. I don't think that shit ever would start. This is my opinion. Like people been killing forever. That shit is life. But what are they actually killing for? Nothing. But you can't there's nothing that you can kill somebody for that validates. Right. Killing. You fight over territory that doesn't belong to you. That block doesn't belong to you. That belong to the man. Yeah. But I don't feel like people really fight over blocks. I think it'd be like shit that people do to each other. Right. Because it's like you could look at it from two points of views because when I was younger I used to look at it from my point of view. But now that I'm older it's like I look at it from like an older point of view. Right. When I was younger it was like if somebody killed your brother like what can stop you from wanting to kill that brother? You're seeking revenge. Like what can stop you from wanting to do that? You feel what I'm saying? Right. Like then I'd be like damn what give like people the right to say when you can kill because it's people who damn they got a license to kill. They can go kill somebody legally. What's the difference? Like what makes their reason more valid than this young boy who just lost his brother. Catch John Stewart back in action on The Daily Show and in your ears with The Daily Show ears edition podcast. From his hilarious satirical takes on today's politics and entertainment to the unique voices of correspondence and contributors it's your perfect companion to stay on top of what's happening now. 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I texted you and you texted me back now I don't know if you have the update but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff like it's all colored they changed it and the heart's a little pink it felt like I told you I loved you I'm gonna be honest it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you feel like when you send it here it's like uh do I send the heart now. I don't like the color edition it's extremely pink. Listen to lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. What's going on everybody this is Justin Pennick from John Boy Media the host of the football today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week on Mondays on Wednesdays on Fridays breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race is Josh Allen going to pull it out Lamar Jackson can take on Barkley even break the rushing record can the Steelers keep up their momentum. We talk about everything we break it down stats analytics and of course Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to football today on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did hope you could join us for the postseason run. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like I don't feel like killing whatever start probably the amount and the how it's happening and shit can slow down. Right. But I feel like as long as you got life you got killing. When did you decide that rap was going to be your way out and you was going to put that behind you. How were you when you said you know what I can do this. I mean I think 50 was a guy that was in the game ended up getting shot nine times turned his life around. I don't know if 50 is a role model of yours. I think I read somewhere where you said 3-6 mafia. Yeah I liked that that music growing up but I didn't really know much about 3-6 mafia like I knew about Project Pat like his story. I didn't really know about 3-6 mafia like as a whole story. 50% was a thousand percent like I looked it up to him growing up too for you know like because he told his story more than like a lot of other artists. He had a movie and all these type of shit so I knew his story a little more like I was inspired by his story and shit. So when did you decide that says I'm gonna give this rap thing to try. Like after I got shot. Yeah that's when I really just started like trying to like rap for it. I had made songs playing around and shit with friends but that's when I started like really like putting my money into it and shit like that. Right okay you meet Metro Booming. Yeah and so that was so how did you meet him and how do you guys become such good friends. I met Metro Booming through Key. It's a Atlanta rapper named Key. And I met Key through a man man. He a rapper from Atlanta too. And Key used to burn me around Sonny Digital. Nobody had real names huh. Everybody got man man and Key. It's William Scaney. Oh god. Oh god. Shae Shae. Right. I got them. They used to keep you to bring me around Sonny and Sonny was the man. Okay. And everybody used to be at Sonny House. Right. And then that's how I met Metro. So you met her up. He gave you. So did he know that he know you rap that the time? I don't think so. He ain't know him. Right. But I just walked up on him like man I'm savage but I need some beats. I'm finna start rapping. And he fucked around and sent me a couple beats. And I had there like a couple songs on him and he fucked with him and then we just grew a relationship. And it took off from there. Yeah. Did you think or did you know? But really Sonny. Sonny my songs with Sonny blew up before my songs with Metro. Okay. Type shit. Okay. So it was really me and Sonny was locked in. Like Metro was giving me beats too. But I was doing like projects with Sonny and shit. Sonny was like showing me how to record. Okay. Like let me use his house to record and our type of shit. And then me and Metro grew our relationship while all that was going on. Type shit. Yeah. Did you think you could become this? Because I remember I used to like when I had caught my little first little song I remember I used to be sending that Sonny house like man when the hell you post the start getting show money bro. Type shit. And he used to be like bro don't worry bro it's gonna come bro trust me bro like it's gonna come type shit. I ain't think it'll be like this not hell no. Because back then it was like people was blowing up but I don't know if people was blowing up that big. Right. I feel like all the people who this big right now like we all got there around the same time. Type shit. Right. Like we ain't have nobody to be like what future back then who was just big like that. Future says if young Metro don't trust you I'm gonna shoot you. I mean but you look at your guy I mean what is it about Atlanta? You future. Tilt. Looter. I mean inside if you if you in the rap game I think Lil Baby. Yeah. I think Atlanta is just like a player city like it's just players like we just I don't know we just know how to talk we know how to walk dress top the women set trends. It's just something that I don't know. I had T out on the podcast. T out said you asking for a million dollars and he said no because he said that I would have to take more from you. Yeah he was still trying to sign me though. T. I was as cheap as hell. He's gonna try to hit him. But I did. He sent me an offer. Yeah. And my counter offer was I want a million. Right. And he was like shit I'm gonna have to take so much from you in return. Right. That it ain't even worth and ain't gonna be worth the million in the future type shit. So he actually saved you from yourself. Facts. Yeah I look up to T.I. because T.I. wanted him niggas. He riches a motherfucker but he tight as hell. That's how he keep that money though. Right. He's smart with his money. Have a platinum album before you signed your first deal. Yeah. Yeah. So now you're in a very favorable situation because you got you I mean it's not necessarily you got to do a bad deal because you already got a platinum album. It's not like a situation you're looking to get signed so you could release an album. You already got the album. Where's it platinum up or where's it gold? I had platinum singles. Yeah. But I had a gold album. Right. Yeah. But you straight. Yeah for sure. So it kept so that kept you out of a bad deal. Yeah. Because I was like it was like our type of scrutiny because I was supposed to sign too. We had like little labels and shit. Right. But some just used to tell me like man hell no I don't take no 30,000. I don't take no 50,000. Right. Like you worth more than that. Right. You end up doing a 70/30 split right? Yeah. Yeah. We're epic. Right. Yeah that was my first deal. It was like 70/30 but like they had like a 10% distribution fee or some shit. Right. Yeah. So what's your take on streaming? I hear some new dogs saying man look here man them streaming you stream a billion and man you ain't really making no money. What's your what's your what's your what's your thoughts on streaming? I think it all depends on how your deal structure because there's some money in streaming. It's just about like how your deal structure and how much you stream type shit. Well it seemed to me to be some money in it because my label be giving me some money. Okay. I was about to say because the way you talking you talking like you got a structure deal that you can get to. They got to be making money because they're giving me money. Right. So it's some money in that shit. Some real money in it. Let me ask you about your catalog. Future sold his catalog. I think he sold it 65 75 million. Is that something you'd be interested in at some point? Yeah. I'll probably lay down down the line for sure. Yeah. I only got a couple albums right now though. Right. But you won't stop it. It depends. It depends how much my hustle how I apply my hustle. Right. Because shit I might fuck around and invest in something and become a billionaire and be able to pass my catalog down to my kids. Right. Not even had to sell my catalog. Right. I'm looking at the the exhale of freshman class. Little ease of vert, yachty, Kodak, Denzel, Kurt, Jerobo, David East, Little Dicky, Anderson Pack, designer and you. Well, y'all gotta lick that year. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Y'all gotta lick. Yeah, for sure. Give us some stars on that cover. Do you ever sit back and like, man, considering what your story of how coming to to Atlanta from London or the East Side, you're upbringing, there's a lot of things that could have happened that this didn't happen. Do you ever sit back and like, "Damn, man, this shit. I'm new." Side with your eye. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes, yeah. But I'd be like, "I still gotta keep going though." You still trying to grind. Yeah. But I do be like, "Appreciate it, though. I do sit back and just daydreams sometimes like, "Now this shit could have went this way or this way." Type shit. Right. You shouldn't have to worry when you buy tickets to your next big event. Game time is the faster and easy way to buy tickets for all your sports, music, comedy, and theater events near you. With killer last-minute deals, all in prices, views from your seat, and the best price guaranteed. Game time takes the guesswork out of buying tickets. 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I was like a young nigga when I first came out. I was just saying anything type shit. Right. Samples on the album. How difficult was it? How difficult was it to clear the samples for some of the music that you use? Jan do that. My am not. She be handling it. She be on top of all that shit. She ain't really come back to me like nothing was too hard to clear this time but it do get hard sometimes. It gets hard because they want to charge more than what you think it's worth or they just don't want you to sample it. Some people just don't want you to sample that shit. Like one of my songs like they cleared it for the album but then when it was time for me to do like commercials or like TV performances they wouldn't clear it. So it was like damn I should have just never cleared it for the album in the first place because now they sound big and... And you can't sing it. I can't really do nothing. Do it right. Everything that I want to do with it. So why would they let you do it for the album but not let you do it commercially? I don't know. Man. Do you ever look and see like okay American dream supposed to drop and somebody else like you know what like three other artists might be dropping that week. Would you ever move yours up or push yours back or you're like hey me the best man win? It depends on who dropping. Keep it all the way real. If it's somebody too big I'm gonna get up out there way. Right. But I'm gonna normally know that before I even drop. Like I'm gonna know like you know all the labels have like a calendar of what you coming out for the most part. But yeah I get up out somebody way but people get up out my way too though. Right they should. Yeah. I'm looking at are you the best rapper to that 2016 class? I feel like I am. But I feel like everybody in that class should feel like they is too. Right. But hell yeah I feel like I am for sure. Dark Days song of the album you would say your gun won't love you back and the block won't hug you back. That song? Yeah. I really was like in the booth like talking like to like a younger me a young man in that same situation type shit. Like I was just like telling them like yeah this shit might look cool but in reality like this is the truth. Like this what it really is right here like this is the real type shit. I was just like talking to him in that way like yeah you could say you love that block but it don't love you it ain't gonna hug you back. Right. You can stay like her the block that's like posting on the block all night. It ain't gonna hug you back. You could love your gun but your gun ain't never gonna love you back. Right. Because they're gonna be killing you. Your friends after your candlelight then ain't nobody gonna come check on your mama like that they ain't gonna give her nothing. Wow. Like you feel me like that's just how shit go for real. You told kids to stay in school talking about seeing friends take their last breath talking about crying at night and mama's crying talking about kids growing up without fathers said even though you even thought about suicide. Tell the story that don't want people to live. So what is it about that lifestyle that people find so not people but young men especially a lot of young men of color find so fascinating. When you young you them to get rewarded for dumb shit. Right. Like when you young but it ain't like a real reward but it's like you get more attention. I say that like like when we be growing up like we don't be getting a lot of attention type shit like me and I daddy ain't around mama always busy type shit. So like when you do bad shit remember I told you like you get a counselor. Right. That was like some cool in school like if you had a counselor like other kids look at you like like you were something type shit. So it's like it just build up and build up and build up type shit and you just used to getting rewarded for dumb shit or not dumb shit but like bad shit. Right. That is just carry on and then you just before you know it you a grown man and you just stuck in this shit type shit. But you're one of the ones that made it. You got an opportunity to be a grown man got an opportunity to look back and say look made some mistakes don't learn don't make the mistakes that I made. Yeah. You wanted a few. Yeah. Bless. Very well. I know a lot of people that then. Um on this album Young Thug Young Thug or Thug recorded or pre-recorded. Do you still talk to Thug? Um yeah. Not like that though but we went to the top. The 21 American Dream you got a story a movie coming up. No that was a parody. A parody. Okay. Do you think your story you think your story is good enough to be a movie or documentary? You got a very interesting story to have it. Do you think you think so? I do because it's the American Dream. I mean think about how many people you hear about this all the time. People migrating to America and you're an American success story. Not a whole lot of money. Very tough upbringing. Single parent. I mean you had love and you could have gone down this path and you went down this path for a period of time. But somehow you come back down to straight and narrow and here we are. American loves success stories. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like it could be one day. They don't hate on it now though. Why they gonna hate on it? Because they gonna be like what the fuck 21s to average deserves a story for a movie about him. Right. What he did. Right. You know how they go. You know what they hate on your relationship with Drake. Why people got why people got beef with Drake? What Drake do they anybody? I don't know. So because you know you gonna get blow back. If you cool with Drake they hate on him they go hate on you too. Yeah. I don't know. I fuck with Drake though. Drake my boy. Yeah. You sure? I mean what's not what's not like about the bad? I mean hell everything. He touch turned platinum. Damn gold platinum. Oh god. Oh god. Yeah. Do you think people are envious of your relationship? Because obviously he's it's not like he I don't I wouldn't say that he doesn't mess with a whole lot of people but he seems to have it very you and he's seem to have a very special relationship. And sometimes people get envious of that. They want what you have. What you feel like a man is if he jealous of how cool two other men are. What do you what do you think what you think that is? What you would look at like that. Like if if somebody said I don't like how Steven they fuck Shannon Shaw. Like how that how that'll make you feel. What you look at that like that's some hate now as you know what. Right. Because it is but what I what you have to understand and I'm learning this savage is that as you rise the ploughs are going to come but so is the hate and the criticism. So if you're not willing to accept the ploughs and their elagulation that comes along with the rise you might as well get off because the hate and the criticism coming. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a part of it. And you just have to accept that. And and that can't the the the hate and the criticism. It can't drown out the applause and the adulation. Right. What adulation mean. Applause the praise the the Grammys the man savage you hear savage album man F savage man I don't fuck else with that dude like that man he ain't like that. Yeah. You know that you know that's coming. Yeah. But see everybody everybody look see as long as you like here and everybody's here with you we cool savage but not hold on now don't you go here because if I can't go here with you I'm gonna start hating on you. Yeah. Now if you get here now I gotta say some stuff that might not even be true. Right. Because I don't want people to like you more than they like me. I ain't never been like that though. I know you not but there are a lot of people that are. Yeah. I wonder why though like what makes you be like that. Like I always look at it like shit that's just like me ain't on Drake. Yeah. I'm trying to get there. Right. I look at it like inspiration like shit. I'm working. That's see that's how I look at it. I look at it. Anybody that's done something well it's been done once hell it can be done again. Right. So it draped their head. Why can't I get there. Right. See that's how I looked at it when I saw Stephen A and I see guys that Charles Marklin things like that. I was like I'm not hating on them. I was like I can do that. Let me see. Let me get on my grind. Yeah. But that's not how we are. We're not we're not wired like that. Right. And it's sad. The touring aspect. What do you what do you like what do you like most about touring and touring with Drake? The money. Lots of it come with Drake huh. That shit just come up here. Right. You can reach a certain level. Because shit Drake ain't finna pay you nothing that you ain't worth. Right. He ain't like he just paying you because you his friend. Hell nah. They paying you your fee. Man he get back and I should have started rapping instead of playing football. Might as well. Then I got you a what the hell what a 55 year old gonna rap about. Shit. Rap about goddamn everything. Everything you're going through. It's some 55 year old that goddamn can relate. It's a lot. Google how many 55 year old men it is in the world. That's a bunch of them. All right then. No you ain't finna get me out to help me out. Jump out and make a song and get some screaming money and then tell me if screaming pay or not. What's it like touring outside the country? It's different. Because they they got it's like they love they love hard. They might not even speak English but they can sing every word that you be singing. Yeah. That shit crazy. I ain't never got a love like that before. Really? I have. I have. But I think it's just different because they don't see you as often. They appreciate you more. Right. Type shit. John Stewart is back at The Daily Show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Dive into John's unique take on the biggest topics in politics entertainment sports and more. Joined by the sharp voices of the shows correspondence and contributors and with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups. This podcast gives you content you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey it's Bobby Bones. 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I mean it's not like you don't love touring the stage but you love going out of the country because they give you love like. But I think it might be different for me because remember I couldn't travel for so long like my first time ever performing out the country was a couple months ago. Right. Because you couldn't leave because of the situation. Right. So I think it was like anticipated for me a lot. Right. But shit every show showed out they was showing love like a motherfucker like screaming every song like songs that I went in expecting them to know they know every word. Every word. Yeah that shit was crazy. Let me ask you this. Would you ever experiment with your sound like Drake did? Um yeah why not once I get to Drake Love? You got you got to be big as hell to experiment. Yeah. Because you could experiment and that shit in your career. Right. But so you got to have like the leverage to do that. Right. Type shit. But right now you love you love the savvy sound right now. That's working right now. It's booming. You sold out your album number one. You go platinum. I'm just slowly like evolving like type shit like piece by piece like I ain't finished just jump out the window and just make no whole different shit. Right. But I give you like little bits and pieces of it. Right as I go type shit. You like R&B. Would you ever do an R&B album? With me singing. Yeah. Hell no. I had to go get a vocal coach. Okay. I love R&B though. I listen to that shit more than anything. I don't even listen to rap like that. Okay. You you like R&B. Give me your Mount Rushmore R&B artists. If you you got you got give me your top five R&B artists. Can they just artist or group? Can it be either or? It could be either if you're on this. All right. Mount Rushmore ain't in order neither. No no no no. Now Mount Rushmore is only four but I'm gonna make it easy. I'm gonna let you get five. I'm gonna let you get five. All right. Usher. Okay. Love. It's WV. Okay. Beyonce. Okay. The boy who in jail. Oh I can't let you. And um five tough man. I'm five tough bro. Ain't gonna lie. Love Monica Monica. Okay. But then like you got Mary J. Black. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got goddamn. Because the eyes of the brothers got some shit. For sure. There's so many other ones. But then probably who I listen to the most. Right. What's your Mount Rushmore B? R&B? Well Usher that definitely got to be on there. Usher. For me I will say Usher. Mary J. Man. James Brown. I would probably know. That's so Marvin Gaye. James Brown soul. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't put him at R&B. Who? James Brown. No I wouldn't either. No. Probably Marvin Gaye. I guess for me I love Luther. But you can't go wrong with Kenny Latimore either. I don't know Kenny Latimore. Yeah he'll be up for your time. Yeah. But you know Luther right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So would you like let's just say you want to do an R&B album. And you can't pick Beyonce. I can't do that. Because I know you're gonna pick Beyonce. You can't pick Beyonce. Who jumping on the track with you? Here's one person. Yeah. For the whole album. You have, you know what? I'm gonna let you do features. You can have as many as you want. I'm gonna let you have Beyonce. Beyonce. Or she gonna do a track. Beyonce gonna do a track. Beyonce gonna do another track. That's true. I'm just gonna get that's true from Beyonce. Summer Walker. Okay. That girl. She hard as a motherfucker. Coco John. Okay. Her. Okay. I like her. I'm gonna go get a font wherever he at. Right. I'm gonna go get a font. We're gonna get the boy Joe. Yeah. Okay. We're gonna see what Joe at. Well you might want to put if you go get one of my Casey and Jojo. You gonna put them on your R&B? They be singing still? They still say. Yeah. Casey and Jojo. I'm gonna go get Jagged Edge. Man, you gonna wave all bad. We'll bring them back together. I'm gonna go get SWV. Okay. Y'all have to come back out. I love Cut Close. If they still somewhere singing, I get cut close. I get Sammo too to come back. Okay. Yeah. See, I'm gonna have our type of shit on my shit. Right. I probably make the hardest collaboration on R&B album of all time. If I could just get all them artists on God. Yeah. It's gonna cost you a lot though. Cheers. All right. We're gonna scream. How did it feel to help J. Cole win this with Grammy? I think we helped each other. I don't think I just helped him. I think we helped each other. It felt good shit. That was my first Grammy too. Right. It ain't like I just had 10 Grammys and I just gave him a Grammy. Right. We won that month. I get the same time. Right. I wouldn't have got it without him. Right. So what was that feeling like? You're sitting in there, you're okay. You get nominated. Obviously, it's a huge accomplishment just to get nominated. Everybody said, "Oh, you know, I don't need to care if I win as long as I'm nominated bull jive. You're nominated, you want to win." Okay. So you sit in there and the Grammy for goes to, and they call J. Cole 21-7. What goes through you by? I was sad that day, because that was the day Kobe died. Oh, right. So I was kind of sad that day. And then my award wasn't announced in the Grammys. I knew I won it before we got there. That's anti-climatic. It was like one of them pre-announced. Yeah. Yeah. You want to, you want to, hey, I want to, hey, I want to hear my money. Want to get up and walk. Yeah, get right back on stage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that was the day Kobe died. So it's kind of like bittersweet. So when you do a collab with J. Cole? Yeah, for sure. It seems like you're like, look, you want to these artists that, hey, you collab, offset J. Cole, Drake, you don't seem to have no beef with none of the artists. Because I feel like life is bigger than that type of shit. I feel like we are blessed to be in these predicaments and positions and shit, because I feel like we'll be doing the people of injustice by not giving them that type of shit. Like back in the day, you don't remember, everybody used to be in everybody video. It was more like unity, because we was all coming from, we spoil now. Artists today spoil, because of how far music has went. Back in the day, it was like, it was harder to get on. So that was more appreciative by the time they got, they start getting their shit together. You know what I'm saying? So they all stuck together a little more. Yeah, we had that. That's why I feel like beef was so big back then, because it was like more rare. Now, everybody beefing. Got everybody beefing. So type of shit. But I didn't really beef it or they tried it. They tried to get some publicity. It'd be half and half. Okay. Yeah. I'ma put you on. I got a tough one for you right now. Give me your top five Atlanta rappers. Without me. Without you. I'ma go future. Okay. Tia. Okay. Gucci. Outcast. And you're a tough. Okay. I'm sorry, Luda. Jeezy. Y'all made my top five, but that's damn. Migos. Yeah, baby. I'm sorry. See, you can't do no Atlanta top five. You can't. You got to do Atlanta top 20. No, no. We got two mini great. Nah, because I ain't gonna let you put everybody up in there. So when they see this, I ain't. I like my five. No, niggas ain't gonna put me in. They top five anyway. They might. Hell no. They gonna say current, current or all time. So what type of influence the Gucci have on you? You say you saw Gucci at Miss Wiener's very, very early on? I'ma keep it real like growing up on the east side, bro. Gucci made me hate young Jeezy as a child. Right. You sure what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, like, I used to really be like, man, fuck Jeezy. Right. I'm from the east side nigga. Gucci type shit. Oh, God. Gucci had a big impact. Like, Gucci was the one, like, and he was like, he put that shit on the map, like let it be known, like the east side type shit. Are you big in the gifts? Do you buy other other, I saw Drake, Bob Thug or Ferrari? Are you big in the body of the artist's gift that jump on your album and blow it up? Yeah, we'd be buying, I didn't buy Drake some shit. He didn't buy me some shit. I didn't buy Thug shit. He bought me shit. Like, people that I fuck with in Metro, I just don't do shit for the internet. Right. So like, you do stuff and don't nobody know about it. Yeah, but a nigga might have a chain on that I bought him. You would never know, right? Because I ain't from the like, be like, huh, bro, like type shit. Were you all enough to remember Freetnik? Yeah. Freetnik was like that, wasn't it? I don't remember being there. I just remember traffic, like, can't go nowhere. Nope. Type shit. It was real nice though. But you got to come to mind for, you been, are you know, I've been throwing Freetnik too. Hold on, what time am I going on? On my birthday. When is this? I told him. Man, man, we had like, how many people was out there? Like, some thousand people? Yeah. I'll downtown that the underground. We had, we had Uncle Luke perform. What? Yeah. I remember them day. You see, by I told you, see, after you get paid to five, you just get on up by the way. You know, I had my time in my early 20s, in my late 20s, early 30s. I had my time, I had my time with Freetnik. You miss, it was real nice. Man, let me stop, let me stop. It was all right. It was all right. No, everybody be talking about, you know, teeth. What's going on me? You spent a lot, you put, I mean, now you, you, you, you savage. You're gonna be in front of the camera. You rapping. You got to have your grill right. Yeah. For sure. How many bands you put in there? Like, 85. See? I had to go get them right. You get it right. Yeah. You, you're supposed to, though. Yeah. Not the composite shit. No, no, that's the, the, there, yeah, I know. Yeah. You got that porcelain. Yeah. You got it too. Grill, no greens. Let me, I want to, I want to get to this dating publicly. Would you ever date publicly again? Yeah, probably. You what? Would you? No. Why? Because I believe if you date publicly, you have to break up publicly and you have to deal with your issue publicly. If you date privately, you can break up privately and deal with any issues you may have privately. Damn. I never thought about it. Like, you just taught me something. That's just me. I mean, to each his own. I mean, some people like that. I don't, my relationship is not for public consumption. Right. Because sometimes I think people start to try to live and try to play out their relationship for the public and do things. Oh, you see what they did? They own this vacation. If I go on vacation, it's just me and you. I ain't trying to do anything for the gram or the net. Right. Yeah. I mean, if I, I don't, all that, like, when you go out to eat and you, women got to take pictures, let me take a picture of them. Come on, man, stop it. Yeah, I don't got it. So that's, that's why I'm at with that. But that's to each his own. Yeah. But you, but you could be at me if your, your lady says, okay, you know, sad with that boy. Hey, you might just change my mind. You might just change my mind because you got to break up. But what if you never break up? You're on, have you ever been in a relationship that you felt like, I don't think we ever going to break up. Hell, all the relationship that you being, you be thinking that in the time. I don't think anybody getting a relationship, think like, oh, this, this is, go in the mall. You think it's going to last forever? But I just think the thing is that sometimes, you know, man, that internet man, then people start, then people start surmising what's going on. Oh, he ain't, he don't love her like that. She don't love him. She put a street, he put a street. And this started to play me. You get inundated with that savage, man. You hear that enough. And it just, yeah, it attack a toll on you. It does. It does. Your tattoos. How old were you got your first tattoo? 13, 14. I had got my mama name, though. Correct. So she couldn't. So you cool with that? So how old when you first got your face tat? Your first face tat? How old were you? 16. She didn't like that. She didn't like it. 17, 17. Yeah. So what was it, the crawls? It was 21. Okay. And then that next year, my big brother Larry, that was like Johnny Best friend. He had got killed. Him and his mama got killed together. Wow. And I had got R.I.P. Larry, because me and Larry went and got 21 together. Right. So I had one that got R.I.P. Larry around it. That was my second face tattoo. Right. What does it mean to you? Everything. It's just like, I feel like that's where your legacy count the most. Because when you think of all the legends, you'll be like, I don't know what that's done to them. What that kids look like. That's who carry on. That's your lineage. Yeah. I feel like it means everything. And you're trying to be everything that your father was to you. Yeah. Do you make a, is it just second nature or you try or you make a conch or you like, yeah, my dad wouldn't do this. So I'm going to do that. I don't do that. It's your second nature. Second nature. I only think it's like, I don't even think of me and my daddy relationship when I think of like my kids. Really? Just what come natural to me. Did you always want to be a parent? Did you always want to be a father? Yeah. Yeah. I always wanted to have kids. I feel like, what did you really do it for if you don't have no kids? Right. Like, what was all of this for? You just gonna die and then what? That's the end of you. Ain't nothing else to go on like type shit. Like how I look at like brandy and shit. Or like, Ken Yemarne Jr. or like Carmelo son. It's like, that's what it's about. Right. What if your son say, dad, you don't want to be a rapper too? I'm gonna try and find something else, but that's his passion. We're gonna do it the right way. When people say rap is declining, your answer is. My show price is going up. It can't be declining. Shit, my shit going up. Right. I just did the most streams in the day for of my career, the biggest solo streams of my career. So it can't be declining. But I don't know though. Right. What's 21 Savage's goal for 24? We early in 24, we January. So what can we expect? What's your goals for 24? I just want to like level up with everything that I'm doing. Like, better show. I feel like everybody loved an album already. Like, spend more time with my kids and my people. Like, I want to go back to London more often than shit. And just like, not as you can travel. 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