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[Music] Hello and welcome to the For My Fear Plan podcast, final episode of the year reviewing a much needed 2-1 win over Southampton, also later on picking some 3-2-1 points to dish out, and then later in the week answering your questions, joining me is Jack Pierce. Jack, hello. How are you? Good, Jim. I'm pleased that my recommendation for you to park heralded no issues for you, so that was my biggest stress yesterday, that you returned to a car in one piece because you parked in an area unknown to you, but known to many other Palace fans. Yeah, it's really becoming a theme of my match days now, isn't it, sort of hoping that the car is accessible when I get back, but that's two matches in a row now where it's been absolutely fine, so thank you very much. It's what the nurses are here for. Yeah, indeed. And this week's intro comes from Christopher Goggins, who says, "What's the crack? Tommy Black." Is Joe Walker? Joe, how are you? I'm great. J.D., how are you? How are you feeling after? I hope you're as bright as me now after Palace win. It doesn't matter how it comes, I feel better the next day, always miles better. I think that's the theme, isn't it? It doesn't matter how it comes. We'll come on to that because it wasn't, it wasn't, you know, but we got the three points and that was the important thing. Yeah, I'm feeling a bit more relaxed now, 20 points nearly halfway through the season. Oh, well, we are actually halfway through the season now. Exactly. 19 games. So, yeah, I think we're all feeling slightly happy now heading into the new year. Let's crack on with some, oh, I should say, by the way, keep sending your intros and outros. We got some outros later on, contact to FIPDOTF. Contact to FIPfansing.uk. We had that email for like literally 15 years, well, do I struggle with that. Please keep sending them in and we will read them out. So we're going to talk, or just, or just approach us on a match day. We have started. Yeah. Someone approached you on the match day, didn't they? Yeah. I think we've got that coming later. We'll hold that, yeah. We'll hold that for a future episode. Yeah. We're always happy to be approached on, on match days. Yeah. That's, that's fine. Let's talk then, Jack. I guess main talking point is, Iberiaise, we're the fantastic winner. I mean, as strikes go, that was absolutely superb. I borrowed some tickets from a friend of mine who sat in the upper homestale for the first time in a long, long time. And my word, the view from the top, top of the homestale is fantastic. You really get a good reading of the game and we got such a good view of that abstract as well. There's a lovely, lovely goal. Might not have been as best performance as the season, but I think maybe an indication of what we've been saying on the pod that he is one of those players that even if he's not putting in his best performance, he still has the magic to pull out something like that. I would say the only player on the pitch that could have struck that ball at that point in like that. And I guess that's just another reminder of what Ebbs gives us. And hopefully, yeah, a launch pad for maybe a better second half of the season. Don't worry about the rest of his performance. He won the game. I worry about it. You said that in the post match pod, your immediate post match pod yesterday, which I listened to as I walked back from side to side to stage up the hill and really enjoyed you two talking about it. It was very true what you said. I think that Ebbs is the only player on the pitch yesterday that would have scored that goal like that. Another player might have taken a chance and got the shot away and then troubled the keeper but hit it on the rise like that and make the most of the ball bouncing off Chris Richards. Does Chris Richards get an assist for that? Does that go down as a Chris Richards assist? I mean, it really summed up the game because it was the sloppiest passage of play from your teams. It really was teams. Both teams, terrible. At both our wing backs play lofted high volleys into the air that don't really do anything. And then it does drop it. It's just a fantastic, clean strike. And that's been a theme of his season really, the cleanness of his strike. So he started the season at Brentford with that wonderful effort that got this allowed for no reason whatsoever. He's only legal up to this point was the cracker against Chelsea and he's been unfortunate with other efforts that have come off the bar or been blocked or been saved well. So I was chuffed that he got the goal yesterday. I mean, from where I was in the home style lower, he was getting dog's abuse in the first half. And it was really unwarranted in at points, getting the ball behind him and still controlling and then being slandered for not then beating three players and creating a chance. It's just getting a little bit hyperbolic when it comes to him. So I was delighted for him that he put it away. And then his post-match comments really kind of typify the confidence that he still has in himself. And as long as he's still confident, I think we should still be confident. I hope he would maximize yesterday because I think what it is fair to say about Ebbs is he does have maybe some of his stronger moments against weaker teams in the league. And that's not a criticism because he needs him to do. We need someone to do that. I mean, had he not done that yesterday, then we're dropping two points at home to the bottom team in the table. So he does play better and get more out of games against maybe lower-quality opposition. So we needed to do that. And he did do yesterday. And I hope it is the start of a better second half or the kind of transition to the second half of the season for him. And I will talk about January later on in the week and hopefully that does him some good as well in terms of adding some bodies around the pitch. But great goal, great moment for him and a proper celebration, which I think kind of signified to me that he enjoyed that moment as well for what it was for him. Jack, I've got a question for you, which I'll chat to you and then come to Joe from Oily Wanna Do Is Have Some Fun, one of our regulars. Nice. Listeners, tell me, what was your favorite over the top comments in real life or social media that you've seen about the recent awfulness of Esse before it's called to God? There's been some giant wind-up takes out there. How do you think about that, Jack? Yeah. My question to Joe, though, is, and this has been going on in the Discord group with our patrons, was that a volley or a half volley or neither? Oh, I think it's close to a half volley, isn't it? Because it does bounce before, if I remember it correctly, right? Wow. It's a controversial tape because people have different opinion. My theory of half volleys is if the ball is on the apex of a bounce, if it's coming down and you hit it, it's a volley, if it's going up and you hit it, it's a half volley. Oh, no, Joe. Oh, no. So, but the nature of that means that all half volleys will be close to the ground, which is what the most ascetic half volley looks like. So I think that was bouncing up. I mean, I think I'd call it a half volley. I mean, to be honest, doesn't really matter, it was a great goal, but it has created some debate. Open that old wound, just cleared Jack's process. Oh, so that's all I'm thinking about. I can't think about Ebslond and A. You've chucked that in there. Yeah. It was such a hit of frustration almost. You could feel the mumps of Miss Chances and mid performances just being taken out on that ball on that bounce. And I couldn't have been happier for him and evidently neither could the team, rest of the team. You could see everybody was really, there was a moment, actually, I think it's my lisar is very tempted to kind of boot the ball back at Ramsdale or give it to Ramsdale as it's gone in. And then he kind of checks himself and goes, "No, I'm actually going to go to Ebslond. I'm happy about this. This is not a time to rustle. This is a time to enjoy it because he's probably not scored in so long. Can I ask you a question then, Joe? Does it matter? And this is the second game now where Ebsl has scored a really important goal of Chelsea away being the other, where he didn't put in his best performance. And we talk about him so much on the podcast. Does it matter if Ebs drops a four or five out of 10, if he then goes and scores a goal like that? No, it matters a lot less. If that's still happening, but that's his second league goal of the season. So the gaps between those moments in terms of ending in a goal has been a little bit more sparse than it has been in the past, so it just needs to happen a little bit more frequently than it has done. But no, I think as incredible performances as we've seen from him, when he's in full flow and the whole pitch seems to belong to him and the Premier League seems to belong to him sometimes when he's in really fine form. I think we'll look back on his entire spell at Palace whenever it does end as being no, just that player that we will look to in the darkest hour and there might be a spark there. And it does. Players like that, we love them for a reason and it can happily overshadow the rest of a anonymous performance if those key moments, the clutch moments as people have to say or just moments where that bit of extra quality or talent or ingenuity is needed. That's where you have a player like Everett Chezer in the team. So I think everyone, I'm speaking on behalf of everyone, this is a bit brave, but I think everyone is quite forgiving of players like EBS when you can still pull something like that out that ultimately wins us the game. Yeah, I think that's fair, Jack, have you thought of any, I mean, we don't have to go with the slander, we can move on from it if you want. I've got two. No, two that I did, well, I'll smile at now, but did infer at me somewhat yesterday. Get him off after eight minutes was a good one this day from someone around me. Okay. And then the free kick, you both might remember this yesterday, I think it eventually led to a similar passage, if not the start of the same passage that led to the Southampton goal where we get a free kick in halfway on our own, but in our own half, no one really wants to take it. Chris Richards then floats it nowhere. And Southampton to do it. Yeah. Well, it floated over EBS's head and somebody just shout out lazy essay. And I was like, I don't understand what the guy could have done there. But it wasn't for him, it's supposed to be from a tester. Yeah. It was terrible piece of play from Palace and kind of summed up our first 10 minutes. I thought I thought we were a bit hesitant on the ball and didn't really know what we were doing. But he can't do anything. So when he did win, I didn't even really like celebrate and jump all over the place. I just kind of like stood there and nodded when he ran off because I thought, yeah, I have that one because we've talked about him critically this season, we feel we need more from him. And I think it's right that every fan probably feels that and has felt that at certain points of season, but there was still so much of the game yesterday when he was already getting dogs abuse. I just don't think it's helpful. And I know Rob made comment about commander as another one, but I'm maybe more inclined to agree with the abuse for commander than I am, the abuse director as a because he has got that in his locker. He has demonstrated that for Palace. Not so regularly this season as Joe alludes to, but he scored a very important goal yesterday and this podcast and the outlook for the rest of the season would be very different had. Yeah. He not scored that goal yesterday. Let's move on to the, well, using the Chris Richard example, some of the sloppy play that was my, my takeaway was fantastic, Eb's cracker, Eb's doing Eb's things, which we've missed, but the general performance, I do think Southampton set up quite well and they came to frustrated and they were very organized and they went man to man across the pitch and it did work for, you know, very man to man with Bednarick and JP. Well, quite. And we'll come on to that in a minute, talking about Mr. Michael Salisbury, but I thought Palace, well both teams at Palace particular, very sloppy Jack with some of their plays sometimes. He led to the frustration or a lot of loose policies and when you're not playing, well, that's just another reason to get frustrated and some of our listeners have referenced that David Stuckey says, my word, there are a lot of sloppy and loose passes. A better team would have punished us for that. Maybe the players just exhausted, they'd have to play better going forward. You and McNabb agrees and Daniel Moss, Daniel O'Moss might be Irish, I apologize, Daniel Moss might be a rogo, who knows, good three points, but do we have an issue keeping possession against teams? We should dominate. Jack, did you, were you frustrated about that and is it a worry? I was frustrated by I understood why we weren't particularly good on the ball, given how Southampton set up and it allowed us to maybe play longer than we typically have seen Palace do on the glasener, so maybe that was an approach to the glasener agreed before the game, so we went longer than we normally do, but we were untidy with the ball a couple of instances quite early on which kind of set the tone and in that free kick that I mentioned that Chris Richards took kind of summed up and there was a big groan when that kind of went long which then it did lead to Taylor Dippling, Tyler Dippling, T Dippling, netting his second lead goal of the season, so yeah, weird and then the quality of our equaliser probably summed up the quality of the game at that point, Southampton came to frustrate and there had been frustrated the way that equaliser came about although I don't necessarily agree that they have a case for it, but yeah we did struggle and it was really only Will Hughes who wanted to put his foot on the ball and take time and Will Hughes was at some point to that first half a particular playmaker for us, he was the one driving forward and played some nice one twos and I thought Lerman improved on the ball although I think his ball retention is maybe one of his weaker attributes, his kind of defensive diligence and his energy that he brings is probably more prolific, I don't think he's known for being great on the ball, but it didn't improve really as the game went on that the best moments we had were really kind of making the most of fortuitous bounces, that really good side that Aaron Brown's Dale makes from Ishmaelessar comes from Ishmaelessar really running onto a loose ball and doing very well controlling it nicely and getting the shot away and Brown's Dale palms it away but you know, Jeff's a learner stinging the palms of Aaron Brown's Dale with a shot from outside the box and then the bicycle kick in the first half, the nicest bit of play I think was probably when Tyric Mitchell put that nice cross across the box and Daniel Woonell really should make it 2-1, other than that we didn't really carve through them with passing, it was more kind of making the most of the way the ball fell, but to be honest 24 hours on I'm not that bothered, hopefully we improve and Adam Morten returning whenever he does return will improve us in that sense of the game but we could be better on the ball, Mark Gay is very calming presence at the back as well, I think if we missed Mark yesterday it was that ability to calm things from the back, I thought the quiet she looks a bit lost without him, not to kind of muddy the topic but I thought the quiet passing was good at points but also he missed that calmness and the option of Mark Gay to the left of him, so yeah we did look a bit hurried at points and the passing wasn't great and I think that would be something glutton will want to improve on for after the new year. Yeah Joe, I, when the Palace goal was getting ruled by Var, I went to go to toilet and get a hot chocolate and I sort of waited at the bottom of the steps to see what happened and then I went to do that and I took quite a while to get a hot chocolate, when I came back, my mate who I was with was like I haven't really missed much, when I watched highlights and match the day I realized I'd missed that sad challenge, such as it, and I'd missed the bicycle, I was like oh wait, I completely missed that and so actually watched it back on the highlights, I was like okay we have had a few chances actually, it was thought it was your mate one, I know, I know, I was, it was mad, um. 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You and McNabb has made a really good point though, he said that we really should have put the game to bed rather than the last nerdy 20 minutes and I think that's the, might be maybe sort of the overriding memory because actually, yeah, Palace probably should be putting teams like that to the sword and shouldn't, even I was thinking in the last 5-10 minutes, we're struggling here a bit against worst, potentially one of the worst ever teams in the Premier League. So, I think maybe that might be a reason for it, but I guess there are, you know, it could be extenuating circumstances, tired players, lack of options off the bench, lots of things probably contribute towards a performance like that. I think our ability to close out games has been a concern, for at least a couple of months. I'm just looking back, we're on a relatively, we're on a good run, I'd say, we've lost two in the last 11 in the league and bar, excuse me, bar in the Munoz equaliser against Newcastle and, you know, the third Sargol, or sorry, the second, the third gold Brighton, we don't really do anything in the forward areas late on in games and, you know, it's funny that, that third gold Brighton, there's some good work from Eddie and Katia, one of the subs there. And I think, for example, you know, provided some faith in us as well as the manager to bring on that substitution as a combination in Kamado and then Katia. And since then, they've probably not had the same desired effect if available. I mean, Eddie wasn't available for the form of game, but they, I mean, they both had quite enjoyables the wrong way, but we had some interesting cameos from them, the finishers in the game, which meant that we weren't really knocking on the door late on when perhaps we should have. We seem to do all our best work in the first half at the moment, which was why when we went behind, I was a little bit nervous because I just thought, oh no, if we can have to, if we need, if we have work to do in the second half, even against the Southampton side, I'm going to be slightly concerned because they were set up for two for straight, as you said, before, they threw that onuachi up front who I don't think anyone won the ball off him in the air. But mercifully, he wasn't very good with the ball at his feet, but, you know, are back free. I think they all each had a go at trying to win a header with him and all failed miserably. And they were better at picking up the scraps, you know, I thought in the other direction, JP was, he was so good against their back line and we weren't really playing off him well enough. There were moments, but you just thought, we're all, if everyone's on the right plane of thinking here, maybe we could be more clinical. But yeah, there were chances in that first half to already be ahead, I think. The saw one's a big one and I would, my instinct is to give, I think, obviously Munoz is the biggest chance, but I think regarding the lemur save from the bicycle and the saw chance, I would give some credit to Aaron Ramsdale, he doesn't really deserve it on the goal, the first goal they can see, the equalizer, he's all over the place in his own head. But you see why he's, why he's commanded some of the money that he has and why he's played Arsenal, why he's had England caps, you know, it certainly falls to his game, which is why he's back at Southampton, but he's a very good shot stopper and maybe another side, we might have ran away with it in the first half, but the key at this time of year, especially, so many shadow, so many similarities to that Sheffield United win, I think till the weekend it's a year when we beat them last last year. That was the end of, that was just before the Brighton game, so it's 11 months, but it's to say, it's effectively the same kind of issue in terms of we didn't do our business in that transfer window until the end, so hopefully it's like the last knockings before a transfer window, and it was very similar, because that Sheffield United team had very similar attributes, the same you saw Southampton yesterday. It took the lead, but it was quickly, quite early still, yeah, I know, it wasn't a perfect performance at all, I mean, I'm being generous there, I just, I wasn't that nervous once he took the lead though, they had that one opportunity where, I think I'd come and be saying, Fernandez maybe just completely riggled the shakes off La Croix, but beyond that, they didn't have many openings, despite loads of changes, and we were able to see it out relatively peacefully, I don't know how you guys felt about that, I, yeah, I was still very relieved to hear the final whistle go, but I don't think it was as, you know, kitchen sink. I had a really weird last 15 minutes, because I was dying for substance to be made, because I felt that we were really struggling, JPM particular, Locky run his race, and he had done because then we'll come on to JPM, sure. I thought, look, you've got Andy and Kessey on the bench and for everything we've not seen through in the season, he's still a £30m striker, who surely got to have 20 minutes in him. He didn't have four minutes in him, he was shocking when he came on, and I think maybe the manager, somebody who was saying after the game to me, that it's almost a technique that Roy used to show the board being like, haven't got much have I, and I kind of thought glasses on was showing that a little bit, because he did have, I know the bench wasn't great, but there were auctions on that bench for him to bring on, namely the three players who did come on Tsekkorei, Kamada and Eddy and Kessey, but he was loved to bring them on really, as early as some fans were really thinking he should have done, we'll see what happens in January as to whether that bench gets any stronger, but I feel that the form since that last international break is actually probably not being represented in the tone of the last few podcasts, I mean it's 1.6 points a game since the Villar away game in the league, if you ran that over a 38 game season that's 60 points, that's pretty good going, but because the nature of even some of our wins, Ipswich away, yesterday, they're quite attritional wins, I thought yesterday when we went to one up, I thought ask for one now, we'd win at a cancer because this team have got nothing in them and ebbs might go on and get a few, JP might grab a couple, but it's finishing 2-1 and Joe's absolutely right, Southampton weren't making chances, but the fact it was only one goal meant that you were a little bit fearful for that last few minutes, and I don't think we managed injury time particularly well, given the ball away, nobody really wanted to run to the corner, it was a bit of a bizarre couple of... It was hot potato! Particularly there were a couple of moments from commander where I could feel the crowd groan and get behind him where he was essentially trying to rush out or not make the right decision, there was one that he seemed to get stick for that I felt was more in ketia not being, you know, up to speed with the play, he was meant to be the runner, and commander's played that anticipating that he's going to make the run, and the ketia's almost like not looking at what's happening. Is that the one that just went out from a throw in? Quite possibly, yeah, that one, he's no it, and then the one that really got my goat, I was the right towards the death, there's a really nice ball played through from midfield to in ketia, he's not the edge of the box, and he just has to run in the other direction and then he gets sent off, I think that sums up his time at the moment, I think, I think I'd say the sub sign up, the fact that Glazner is not confident in the players on the bench as disposal. I've not seen an individual decision perplex me like that for a long time. As Joe says, he's in front of one defender and a goalkeeper, and you're thinking this could be your moment, you could pick the third of a 3-1 here and everything's going to be good for you in ketia, no, he goes directly back into traffic, well I don't think he'd take it, I think that's his first touch isn't it, he literally controls it back into traffic, and my initial reaction was that's a red card, I thought you're going to get a 3-game ban here for a 4-minute awful cameo, but he didn't, he got a yellow and he goes again, but he has had a very odd introduction to his Palace career, I don't know, and the longer it goes on you think, oh he needs to settle and get used to being at Palace, well the longer it's gone on, JP's got stronger in that front end role, and he looks a worse option off the bench. I really am interested to see what we do ready in ketia over the next six months and into the next summer because yeah that sign hasn't gone the way that he, the club, us want it to go, it's looking a very odd one, and Joe, you'll comment there about that because you're watching it from side on, that is interesting because I suspect it is the one that may actually come out and look like a bag of potatoes, that he just passed it out of play, and I was thinking did he see someone that no one else did, but yeah that would make sense because it looked terrible, and I think, sorry, the final point I make on it, not to label the point about at it on time because it really wasn't the crux of yesterday, but it did kind of sum up a little bit of the feeling about the place. I wonder if Kamada thought like Eddy and Kettie should have been doing, I'm against a very piss-poor back line here, I could dance through one or two here and get a lead goal in front of the homes down it and everything's going to be rosy, and he did have one moment where he did glide pass two defenders, I thought okay here we go, and then I think as soon as I said that he passed the ball out of play and I thought okay it's not his moment either, so. Well he took that ball and I think that's when he took too long to take a shot, and the end got sort of poking a tame shot wide in front of the homesdale, but that incident, the pass, and Kettie are touched, to me stinks the two players so low on confidence, and I know that I've been that with playing football, some games you're playing and you just feel like effortless, you know, ebbs it is peak, everything you do goes well, those players at the other end of the spectrum, where every decision you make is the wrong one, every touch goes badly, and Kettie, in all the day would he take that ball with his back to goal, that you any other day you would turn and be facing the goal one defender down, and of course it's a bad touch and then he does that. And I think a more confident commander with that chance, he'd done really well to read the play, and Nick of the defender he would have shot first time, because he's not confident he thinks I've got to set myself, I've got to set myself, and then he run out of space, run out of space, and then you're too crowded out, and it just stinks of players completely lacking in confidence. I really like that commander run because it looked like all the YouTube compilations that we saw from his time at Frankfurt. I'll see how here we go, this is what we've signed for, Jim I agree entirely, the only thing I would say is that's £200,000 a week worth of player, that's the issue that we spent big. The mental side of the game is it's not to be ignored, it's really hard, and that's why we have these specialists that come in and do that kind of stuff, because it doesn't matter how much players get paid. We might pay a few of them a bit more. Yeah, it's a problem, it is a problem for them. Really quickly, let's round off part one by just talking about Mr. Michael Salisbury, the referee. David Stuckey said, "My instinct was to scream about Bedner at getting away with repeated moorlings of Matetta, but I think if another team had scored the goal against Palace the way Matetta did, or I think it means Chalibur, but Matetta was involved in the V.A.R. call against Southampton, we'd be outraged. Nice to see Palace get a break for one, so all in all, well done, Mr. Salisbury. Whereas, PC-wise, I said, "How often do you get a game where the officiating is so bad that both sets of fans chant you don't know what you're doing on separate occasions? Jackers are a resident referee assessor." It was one of the weirder, I mean, that moment when both fans are chanting, "You don't know what you're doing," was one of the weirder situations. He did seem to have, much like the ref down there, Mr. Thomas Bradley, whatever his name was, down at Bournemouth for the first half hour, just a very bizarre performance, interpretation of the rules. I mean, just everything about it was slightly weird. I think I uttered O'Dear when he didn't book the first plate in yellow, which wasn't too long in. Honestly, I know we got one of these guys who's going to try and let the game run, but then later on, not be able to control it because it's just going to get a bit out of hand. He didn't let that go. I think that was JP turning either Harvard, Bellis or Bednarick, and then the big striker kicked the ball away very blatantly, didn't give a book in for that. Then another one, which was Bednarick on JP on the halfway line, turned it inside out, didn't get booked for that. I think within the second half, Chris Richards, very obvious yellow card, didn't get booked for that either. He starts giving out yellows for quite nothing, really, nothing challenges, and he had a very odd afternoon. I didn't feel he kind of sided with one team or the other. I just think he tried to let the game flow in a way that he couldn't really flow because the nature of the game. It wasn't two teams trying to pass each other off the pitch. It was a very detergent bottom of the table clash, and he tried to ref it like a Champions League quarter-final, and it just didn't really fit. It was just a bit odd. He's not even kind of were they yellow cards. They were very blatant yellow cards that he just didn't give in the first half, and he struggled from that moment onwards. Are we talking about the goal now as well, or do you think it was the, I think he hinted earlier the right decision. I had a time difficult to see from me down the other end of the pitch, seen it back on match the day later. To be honest, I think it's one of them where I think my Tetris trying to stand his ground. There's a slight split second where it looks like he's leaning into the keeper, but I wonder if that was actually Ramsdale flailing, actually maybe pulling him into the goal. I think it's one of them where they're trying to back the referees in these moments. I think it wasn't given us a goal, so it wasn't given us a foul, so they backed him. I think if he'd given it as a foul, I actually think they probably would have backed him again in that Snorex, one of those ones. I think probably the right decision, but a nice to see a keeper not get overly protected other than you two. Yeah, it was interesting. I know that the Dermot Gallagher's often wanting to back whatever the decision was that was made when he's pulled up in front of the audience on the Sky Sports News, but his comments were that it's Ramsdale that initiates the push, so is it a penalty? Is it a penalty? That was how he put it, he went, when Matetta's doing it means it's a free kick, then what Ramsdale's doing is a penalty is what he's suggesting, so actually if we just say it's a much of a muchness, then he has to let it go. I think Matetta just about helps himself by not raising his arms too high. There is a moment where he looks like he's really trying to interfere with Ramsdale's ability to catch the ball, but Ramsdale is totally preoccupied with that duel and not actually doing his job there, and it's almost maybe the goalkeeper's instinct that the weffril understands will be on my side here, because I'm not just being allowed to have free reign in my six-yard box, but in the last couple of weeks, particularly with those Olympic cos, which I must admit I'd never heard of as a term before, these corner kicks going straight in. A direct from a corner, yeah. The kind of leniency of which those have been allowed, maybe there's a slightly changing attitudes, but it's nice to be a beneficiary of that kind of decision because we were beginning to start getting worried that we were, maybe the refereeing decisions were getting really imbalanced for us early on in the season, to the point where it might not be able to balance out, because there was just so many unlucky decisions and disallowed goals and whatnot earlier on. Did you both celebrate the goal? Sort of, I sort of sort of went up, was that, yeah, it was a bit weird. It was super weird in the home zone, like, Joe, you, cos I know you're different standards at the same end. Yeah, I was very surprised because it was such a strange series of play, I couldn't quite see what was happening, but I must admit, the goalkeeper being Aaron Ramsdale meant I was way more confident that he was being given, I don't know what that says, I've had an agenda against sort of a quite some time, so I thought, oh, it must be a goal, that surely this is the first. I'll be fair, Jack. My first reaction was to look at the lino. And he ran away. Yeah, I was just concerned, it's actually not so much the foul, I just thought, whether that had come off Trevor Shalabal's arm or something, cos it's just the goal score if it touches any part of the arm, it's disallowed, but I, to your point, Jim, about initiating contact, I thought Ramsdale and to echo Joe's point, just got it completely wrong and initiated the contact with Mattette in order, in almost to kind of initiate a foul, and Mattette was cute enough to avoid that, so yeah, I didn't have any issue with that whatsoever, and I don't think the Southampton players really did eat the judging by their protests when I watched it all match the day a bit later, I feel like they were trying to defend their mate, but they knew that he had really made a bit of a cock up, but no issue with that, and Michael Salisbury, you can come again if Palace end up winning matches that you can't referee, mate. Well, the second game in a row where the refs have had weird performances, but neither of those performances have impacted the final result of the game, so just one of those sort of weird. You've got a terrible Christmas card jokes around me as well, I gave all these cards away for Christmas. You've got another 12 months without that now, so you know, you'll be okay. Let's wrap up their part one, we're going to come back and part two and dish out some three to one points. Romance is in the air for Valentine's Day, and when you're ready to pop the question, all you need is the perfect moment to come around. And of course the ring at bluenile.com, you can find thousands of natural and lab-grown and even plan the proposal, so seize the day today, right now you can save up to 50% and just a little comment here from one of our listeners, Ewan McNabb again. He says, "I thought Sar was outstanding, worked hard all game both forward and defensively, and Motetta was an outball all night despite the attentions of the centre-half. You can nominate the first player, I wonder if it might be one of those two, I think the one or both might be featuring this week." It's tough, I've probably got four in my mind, but yeah, let's go Motetta, because he's actually not had a lot of points this season. Perhaps because of that, as you say it's 3-2-1, once your expectation levels increase, your lightliness of points barring regular goalscorer performances for a striker is going to be very difficult, but he had the centre backs on toast, and in particular, I didn't add to the conversation earlier, but my gosh, it didn't help. I had money on, so I added a bet that Palace to win both teams to score, Ebbs to score, and a Ben Norett Yellow, and I could not believe an hour in that Ben Norett had not been caught. He was the bit letting you down. Yeah, and I thought I was like, look at that, they're going to hook, it was getting to the point. You know, when someone's so flirty with danger that they might get hooked or something, I thought this is crazy, but he couldn't get near him, Harwood Bellis tried a little bit, just completely mismatched physically, and the other said that Nathan Wood didn't really get near him. Son of. Son of. Oh. Oh. Not Chris Wood over there. Dean Gordon. Really? Oh, really? I believe so. Hang on, let me just carry on. I just wanted to talk to a guy who can't believe it's not true. I've got Dean Gordon's lawyers on the phone to be right on the phone. Go on. That's incredible. It's incredible, but yeah, it's been great. I think some of our criticism about, he is the son of Dean Gordon, by the way, I just think. Thank God. Wow. Yeah. He used to think about when we spoke about him in the kind of down, the less, you know, the not good years of John Philip Potato Palace, that you'd probably look him and go for the size of him, he's known physically as imposing a centre forward as he could be or should be, which maybe have been why Roy Hodgson wasn't a massive fan for a long time. He is spectacularly that player now. The goals are not flowing in like they were last season, and I don't, I think to anyone really, that doesn't matter because he's playing like he is, he's giving defences of torrid time, and you just hope in that the relationships with the other forwards around him improve, that they can just, you know, have food and, you know, food and drink based off of his good work. Saa has that great chance showing electric pace. It's coming off a kind of Mateta flick on, and that is looking like our best avenue of goal scoring chances at the moment, and Mateta has been very unselfish in a lot of that work. Even the Munoz chance, I didn't realise until the replays, Mateta's dummied that for Munoz to, he's almost said, "Oh no, they'll be a sort of, I've taken a goalkeeper out of the game here for you." And I think a lot of centre forwards, particularly ones that are expected to look like to school all the time, probably just probably got any foot on that and just hopes that they would work out for them, so just a really unselfish performance in a pretty turgid kind of game that I think many, but I was always worried with him that after that run of goals, and particularly as he started making sort of flat in his eyelashes at Napoli and all these type of teams, and then goes to the Olympics and does what he does, I could have totally understood an ego kind of inflating or just thinking like in games like Ipswich Away or Bournemouth the other day here just going, "I'm above this, why am I, I should be in, my name should be in lights, I should be, you know, the ball, I should just be on a six yard box ready to tap in anything that everyone else is doing for me at Man City." And he's just, he's just rolling sleeves up, and just playing for the benefit of the team rather than himself, which maybe I'm just projecting too much onto him, but I just didn't, I expected him to be a little bit more difficult than he has been this season when things work going as smoothly as they were in the spring, and he's actually been the role model for the better Palace players that are just getting on with it, and it's really trying time where players aren't available and maybe not even want to fit huge gaps in our squad, he's just got on with it and done the kind of dirty work for the benefit of the team rather than just himself, and I thought, I thought his performance against that Southampton defence generally was quite a really shining example of that. I think, I think, Jack, it's the first time since probably Glenn Murray that we're seeing an all-action round player that offers a bit of everything, because, you know, I think we're really asking sort of the evolution of Mateta this year in 2024, sort of come to its fore, like I think undoubtedly we now have a £40 million striker who does a bit of everything. And the right, all right, exactly, I mean, you know, minimum, but, you know, you said earlier about him being cute with the goal, I think, actually, he's shown in the last few weeks he can do the brutish stuff, but we know he can do the cute stuff, you know, we saw that the flick, back he'll flick goal last season, the little one-two-flicker essay in one of the, I think it was a villa game, West Ham game in the end of the season, he can do all that, he can score goals with pretty much any part of his body, the evolution of him since the end of last year has been not unbelievable. And as Joe says, really unselfish performances in the last few games, it's very easy that guy up top I think to be, and it's nice that Palace fans and all the groups I'm in have all been saying the same thing about how well he played yesterday, people are recognising that, it's like it's really easy as the target man to think, well, I'm judged on goals, I've got to score, you know, whenever I possibly can, but he really is clearly trying, and I wonder if it is a Glasner thing, you know, that Glasner's really worked on him, on his physicality and his presence top to bring people into play, and we are seeing that with the Saar chances, and he really is becoming the complete forward, and I'm glad that Palace fans are appreciating that because it's really nice to see. I was going to reference Glen Murray, and I mean this in the greatest compliment, yes, says performance really reminded me of like Pete Glen Murray, that unselfishness, the ability to offer the outlet that meant that we had that long ball every time, and just to dominate a sense of half, like, time after time, and, you know, Ben Nurek is Ben Nurek, but, you know, what's his name, Taylor, what's the love sound of today, I can't remember what's the love sound of today, I can't, but the whole with Ben Nurek, yeah, his future sound of love, yeah, he's an international, yeah, apparently, I thought it was pretty terrible, yeah, he's had a good season, he has a good season, fine, fine, but he couldn't get near him yesterday, when he kind of rotated him for him, couldn't touch him, and it was that unselfishness, and Joe's absolutely right to talk about the wider picture, JP has been a leader for this team this season, a real kind of focal point in kind of on pitch, off pitch, the times he's again trying to get the crowd going yesterday to keep it, we didn't need much persuaders to say with the team yesterday, and I don't necessarily like the fact that sometimes the players feel they need ball for the players, I'd like to think we're giving it to them, anyway, but he is that link between the pitch and the stand sometimes, and I like that, and I thought he was performing yesterday, no goal, but perhaps he's best at the season. So he's definitely up some points, can I, Jack, can I go second? I was actually going to offer you, we often give you kind of the consolation prize, so you go second. Okay, so I really, really want to give Esse some points, and I would like to plead to the committee that I'd actually really like to give them the three points, and I know that it probably wasn't a performance that maybe merited that, but you know, I've been putting out the three to one tables last few days on social media, and just by looking at them on my phone, obviously like the fact that Munas is only on three, and people are commenting on that, which is fair enough. Commenting? Something at death threats, mate, what are you talking about? Was it someones said they were at their own? War crimes. But actually, the absence of Ebbs is a real, I guess, indictment of how we are interpreting his season so far, but he has had moments, you know, the Chelsea goal is a big moment. Obviously got us through in the cup against QPR, and yesterday was a huge moment, and I actually do think that that moment itself, even if you take away the context or the performance, is worth the three points, because we had to win. He was the only player that could have done that, and he's won us a very, very important game. And of course, the season, he is probably due a couple of points as well, so I'd like to plead to you guys that yesterday is the opportunity to give Ebbs the three points, make up for the rest of the season, and hopefully it's a sign of better things to come. This is, I feel like the power, I feel quite like, are the judiciary. I was actually, you know, if I was going to go last, I was actually going to, and Eb's hadn't been picked out of the Pro Ebs 4 as well, because the importance of the goal. You raised an interesting point there about the three points. I'm not sure his performance for it. This is where the, the pad always is a panel, this is a three to one. I would say it's probably worthy of two points, the importance of the goal, but there were other elements of his performance as we were so regularly reminded by fans around us yesterday that did lack a little bit, but I said I would be open to giving them the three points. I'd like to hear from my other, the other panel. Did I feel like, you know, walking Phoenix and gladiator just, is it going farm up or farm down? To be honest, I thought what was interesting about this three to one edition is that I don't think there's an obvious candidate for the three points. I think there's a lot of candidates for one or two points here, JP being one of them. I could, well, I'm not, Jack's still going to, got his maker's nomination, but I feel like all the, you know, the goal scorers, Matata, and then maybe another player, we'll see if he comes up, who deserves an honorable mention, all kind of made the difference in some way without being the kind of outstanding player on the pitch. And so I'm not averse to the wider context doing ebbs of favour, because there isn't, there isn't anyone that should be overtly getting three points. And it was such, Jim's point about how important that goal was, as I said earlier, this is such a different podcast, this is such a different feeling if we'd drawn against that. And I will use the very shower of shit, because they were crap. They were crap. If we hadn't beaten that team, I would be really cross to complete the three that we will select from. Yeah. I will put forward Trevor Shalabaya. So I think had a very good performance and a goal scorer, does he become our second joint lead goal scorer? He's on his own. He's on his own. I think he's possibly second on his own now, and maybe joint massage, I've lost track. No, sorry, he's third, I think, but I thought he actually had quite a consistent performance yesterday. And if we've chucked any criticism that Shalabaya's way this year, is that his performances have had inconsistencies within those 90 minutes, and whereas yesterday I thought he was very steady. And actually, against a better opposition, that quality of performance probably would have been noted more and might justify a three, but taking Joe's point on his merit, then the opposition also has to be factored into that they weren't up too much. So him looking very commanding at the back, probably more so more commanding than I thought Laquals, yes. I thought Laquat actually looked a bit intimidated by on the, I don't know who Southampton players are. That's the other way. On the right shoe. Yeah, I don't know who anyone is anymore. Treat yourself to Southampton annual? Yeah, Jason Dodd's still in a squad, I'm sure. The Onuatchu, if you got that, just Onuatchu hat trick, and it's the, when they signed him, he was described as having saw the worst hat trick. The worst hat I do have seen that. It is that guy. It is that guy. You can see why. You can see why. He's certainly a presence, and I think that's probably the best you can describe that. No, I'll put Trevor Shalabar, and we had a question I remember last week about where we out with the prospects of signing Trevor Shalabar. We also probably helps that discussion, but the promise Chelsea on look is it'll be like there's over four million, number five million on top. Trevor Shalabar, I'll try to you guys. I think Calabar's definitely worth a point or two. He, I'm already assuming it's got the three. I thought it was very good. No, no, I'm not presuming anything, Jim. No, I know. Sorry. It's just me trying to be, I think, subconsciously convinced you to give it a three. I liked Calabar's attacking output, you know, he overlapped a few times and we saw he looked more confident. He just looked more confident and I thought he was very commanding and I think he still loves a boot, a random boot up field, like a Peter K advert, doesn't he every now and then. But to be fair, I think the times he did it yesterday were at the right time to relieve pressure. So, but he does love to absolutely just whack it. I have a question. Do you think Trevor Shalabar knows who Peter K is? I think he gets no. I reckon if you said to Calabar, completely out of context, Garlic bread, he wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about. I don't know what's going on. No, he'd be like, what's wrong with Garlic bread? I think that's it. Yeah. That's not a, that's not a, that's not on Trevor Shalabar's timeline. Okay. Ebbs, Latessa and Shalabar, I think, I think it was a really good three for yesterday. You know why I am with the point system. So I'll leave it down to you guys to decide the rest of it. I feel like, I feel like probably what many parents felt this Christmas, that we're not going to give you the present that you really wanted to. Well, I'm getting the, I'm getting the tricycle from Amazon rather than from Toys R Us. Mike, my instinct to tell me that Mattetta's performance was so universally loved that he should get the three. Ebbs for the two, given how important the goal was and Trevor and Shalabar gets the one. That, that's, I'll put that forward too, bro. Okay. Okay. See, it's, I can see it's, it's broken, J.D. so I, I, I, I thought this, I thought this was my podcast. But I clearly, I think you said, this is my concern, this is, you won't be invited back now, Joe. Yeah. Exactly. Some listeners will rejoice. No doubt. Yeah. Your head on a spike is the next Instagram post. The Joe Ward stuff I was okay with, but this, this is it. Guys, it's, it's, it's just how democracy works, guys. So, um, it's pretty, it doesn't, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm happy for the thing is I was, I was willing to concede I have a goal score of being above Mattetta really. But I suppose it was a, a strong performance, but you know, I'm always nervous to be too firm on this. I think it's too, I think you've out with me, guys. I think Abscot's the three then. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yes. Okay. Great. I was actually going to set up the two, but I, I'd love to give them the three. I genuinely, that would make my year. This, this is how the formation of the Supreme Court in the US is this, I just feel like I'm too old to generate. I feel like I'm the former president's man. Yeah. This is it. You said it would make your year, J.D. which year, because you can't cash that in again for 25 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This year, this year. Oh, I'd be really happy to round off 2024 by giving it because that would put him on the little graphic I've made that would put him on the graphic. Okay. Is he not on the graphic at the moment? No. He's got no points. Is she? What? Abscot's got no points. Is it? That's why I'm so, that's why I'm really on it. Sorry. After Chelsea. He didn't get any points. We didn't even have any points. Who got the points in the chat? I can't remember. I don't know. I've just got the pod, the numbers of the pod. I don't know. I think it was, it was Henderson got the three, didn't he, in one of them? Oh, yeah. It was Henderson. I think it was Henderson. It was either Henderson, Klein, and Walton, or Henderson, the Quangay, but no. Episom got any points. So I'm so keen to give him three. The Fed will Klein better have done something extraordinary in that game. Anyway. I think Klein did. I don't know. I must be in the Chelsea one because Klein did play in the Chelsea game. And I think. Like, well, anyway. So far. This is where we are. Fine. Epis for the three. Yes. What a way to round off. Come back next week. Yeah. Of course you can. There's no one else. So you're always going to come back anyway. Okay. So that puts, as I say, on the table with three, Mateta is up to seven, which for some joint fourth. I don't know. Fourth on his own thing. And Challa bar is up to three as well. So there we go. Lequa stays top with 11 points. Right. Let's round off the episode with the quiz. Jack, you're going to be quiz master. Yeah. I said to yesterday. We met before the game. I thought, you know, you're missing out on the fun. And then after the game, we stumbled onto a game that I thought, well, that could be quite fun. But it's with a slight twist. Okay. Okay. So did you know who the Southampton number 10 was that came on with about five minutes to go? Yes. So. No. It was actually someone who I knew because I'm stuck in 2012. Okay. Adam Lelana. Oh, okay. I did see him come on. No, he'd come on. Yeah. Yeah. I'd forgotten he'd resigned to Southampton. His first performance at Selhurst Park in a Southampton shirt was on. I haven't got the date specific, 9th of April, 2012. Oh, my word. Okay. Big, big weekend in my family is the week of my cousin James got married in the Saturday. So it was fairly hungover still two days later. We had a look to see what the Palace team was that day. I'm not going to put you against each other here today because I don't think it would last very long. What I'm going to give you both is between the two of you 12 guesses and I'll flip between the two of you to get as many of this Palace team as possible. I would say if you get seven, you have got the devil within you. Okay. I can't say already I'm loving this. This is absolutely fantastic. But yeah. Thanks. So April 2012. Let's go with, let's Jim will try to throw away. Okay. I'm going to 20. So at the end of the 11, 12 season, Dougie's in charge. Dougie's first full season of charge I want to say. So Joe, do I go, do I go rogue or do I go what I, what feels. You can't lose here. Basically. It's just a total of your joint score after 12 guesses. Okay. I'm going to go. Okay. Gimme any stuff. Incorrect. No. That's a terrible shout. It was one. It was going to be one of two. Okay. I think I would have been quite early on with him. Chemmy Augustine. Incorrect. Oh my goodness. Okay. In that case, that's maybe, okay. Correct. All right. Millet Yedeneck. Incorrect. Oh my God. So this is clearly a bit of a rogue lineup, isn't it? This team, this team is like when those of us that have ever played Sunday League turn up in a car parking thing, who the hell is that? This is, why is, this is disgusting. Why is Mark's dad getting kitted up? Yeah. Quite. Yeah. So joke for the goalkeeper, do I go really obvious or do I? It's going to be, it's going to be Jules of Price, isn't it? That's what I'm, it's exactly what I'm thinking. Looking by Jack's face. I think, I just can't, I don't have any memory of Lewis Price playing post the cup run, the 2011 Cup run. Yeah. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go over Julian's Veronie. That is correct. Okay. Um. Terrifying. Demoxy. Correct. Oh, we're, we're, we're away now. Lovely shout. Okay. So what I will say about Demoxy is he didn't play in his natural position. Oh my God. Oh, wow. Okay. So obviously it's another left back. Oh, okay. It's the other. Oh, yeah. You think it's, it's his year. Do we think it's, it's a war this year? Yeah. Jonathan Parth. Incorrect. Oh my God. Who on earth was that left back then? You will never get. Oh wait. Wait, wait, wait. Matthew Parsons. Yes it is. Oh. I wasn't going to say. What a pull that is. That's incredible. I was going to say, who was the guy who was the guy who was on loan from Mad City that we've referenced in the Johnny Williams pod? Uh. Oh, he gone by that point. Okay. What's his name? Oh, wait. No, hang on. We're given. We're given. Okay. In that case, is it the other guy that came up a lot during the Johnny Williams pod? No. No. Okay. Tungent. No, if you don't, oh damn, I was going to entice listen to go back in this slide. No, no. That's fine. Sorry. Okay. Oh, they've got officially, you've both got two left. But actually we'll just keep on going because this is hilarious. Okay. Julian Bennett? No. Okay. Oh, Julian. Then it's a great shot. Okay. Let's go. But further forward, Wilford Sartre. Correct. Okay. Uh. Disgusting that Kenny Augustine got a reference before Wilford Sartre. Yes. Um. You both have officially won to go, but how many of the team have you got? Hang on. You've got, you've got six with a guest again, I said seven will be a good score. Yeah. And what, what are those just to just to recap, we've we've got. You have, you have Jillian Speroni in goal. You have left back, left sided center back. One of the central midfield two, neither winger. And I'm going to say we did play four four two that day. So there is Wilford Sartre's strike partner, unnamed thus far. Okay. Um. Would clients still be in the team? I was wondering that. Yeah. Well done. I was. You have hit the pass score, gentlemen. Well done. I think he went that summer, didn't he? There's two Southampton. Southampton, yeah. They must have liked what they saw that day. Should we try and just get, try and get a few more or keep going? Jim, you've got one more. You've got one more. Yes. Okay. Um. I want to say the strike part is a really obvious answer who you went on to have a really good season the next season, but I just, you can say that, but does this face look like you should say that? No, that this face is really unsettling me unbelievably, not first time that's been said, the personal referencing there on the bench, unnamed unused substitute glimmer. Wow. And I guess I'll go to centre back. Yeah. I'm going to say still at the club, Patty McCarthy. Captain. Oh, lovely. Okay. Beautiful. So, gentlemen, well done. Well done. Well done. That way, do you want one more guess each? If you get, I mean, you've got the prize that I don't think either of you would get. You've done that one. You are missing three. Yeah. Oh, no. Hang on. You're missing four. Hang on. Have I got this wrong? Bloody hell. First I've done the. No, sorry. You are on seven. I marked Julian Bennett as a correct answer. That was incorrect. Okay. Okay. All right. So you're missing three of the four midfield. Wow. Okay. David Wright. Yeah. That's who I was thinking. No. I can't think of any other midfielders from that to get in that didn't play who we got in midfield. Oh, oh, oh. So you got KJ midfield. You have neither winger. Oh, hang on. Hang on. Unless he was out in the street is screaming out. Oh, okay. Not who I was thinking of. No. Go on then. Is that who you were thinking of, Joe? No. I was what? I was I was thinking of somebody else, but I'll say I'll say that for Andy Street. Do it. Okay. Go on then. Oh, in Garvin. Came on. Okay. Shout. Great. Shout. So my suggestion was I'm going to be I don't know if he was injured at this point, but friend of the podcast. Johnny Williams. Incorrect. No. Must have been injured. Is the striker loan signing? Oh. Okay. Someone. The rules of this game have gone out the window, but I don't care. Yes. Yes. Okay. Oh, okay. Who's the guy that we got from Man City? The loanee from Man City. No. Okay. Don't go down that throat. No. Okay. Is his Scottish? He's a Scottish international. Oh. He's got against Brighton that season. I believe. Oh. Oh, Chris Martin. Correct. Oh. I completely forgot when he played for ID quite well for us, Chris Martin. Yes. So you're lacking the two white men. One is a fairly obvious answer. I'll be honest. It's one of the ones I thought you would get. Oh, my word. The other one. I don't remember. It's my starting elite game. I only remember that season. I'm going to see him in a series of friendly. That season was very forgettable. Yes. So we're talking Sean Scannell was one of them. We are talking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well done. Of course. Of course. The other. Core. We'll save the other four patrons only. Okay. Because we'll be here forever. Okay. Go on. You're just about to say. You're about to say... Here's your lolly. No. Go through your wide men that season now and I still don't think you get them. Don't... Karen Kedogan? No. Um... Blimey. Uh... Oh, god. Now I've got... Lee Hills. No. Lee Hills was a great, great shout though. Uh... I've got two far back now. We've done twenty, eleven, twenty, twelve. Ambrose hasn't joined at this point is he? Came on. Oh, he has. Of course he has. Came on. Last season. Last season. Last season. Yeah, went to Birmingham that summer. Core. Do you want to go? Yeah, I will. I'm just going to put it out of my misery, yeah. We're in number thirty six and making one of seven appearances in Maple Crystal Palace. Kyle de Silva. Wow. I'll probably next one, Judge, let's not imagine that one. No, no. I remember... I remember... No, no. That's Kyle. Still playing? Still playing? It's straight. Seven Oaks Town. Oh. Smile, Nick. Yeah, we did a deep dive into Kyle de Silva yourself for this conversation. Oh, so I was... Do I say this? Nah, I'll say it'll be. Um, right. Guys, Jack, thanks for that. That was great quiz. Enjoy that. You're welcome. You're welcome. And thanks for not... Good effort. Great effort, guys. The Southampton team would have been a nightmare. So... I think you probably would have got more Southampton players. What is that? Oh, that Ricky Lambert, Joe's... Ricky Lambert got a bag. Yeah. Well, the back line. Just one. There you go. You got it. Two Palace players in that or two X Palace players in that team. And... Fontaine, Potterfield. Yeah. Don't worry. Anyway, guys, I think we're going to wrap up. There. That was epic. Um, thank you for your both coming on. Thanks to our listeners. For your questions, we're doing the question special later on in the week, so plenty more of that. But this is the last episode from the midweek pod, possibly any of our episodes, of 2024. So I hope wish you all the best for 2025. And we're going to sign out with this old Langeline Nathaniel Klein. Bye-bye. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. At your job, do you ever have to deal with a nose roller? How about a snub bully? Well, if you're installing a new conveyor belt system, dealing with the different components can sound like you're speaking a foreign language. Luckily, you've got a team ready to help. Granger's technical product specialists are fluent in maintenance, repair, and operations. So whenever you want to talk shop, just reach out. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. Granger. For the ones who get it done. 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