[ Music ] >> Welcome back everybody, you're listening to the line mastery podcast. Sorry, Job Baron, the mind master. >> Thank you sir. And Scott Patton, the Dean of Podology. >> How are you doing today? >> I'm good mate, you. >> I'm excellent. >> One of the things I've been doing is working with non-profit and NGO, non-governmental organizations. So these are the organizations like the Red Cross, the Peace Corps, CUSO, VSO that send volunteers, typically it's sending volunteers overseas. >> Wow. >> And in Canada, there is the CCIC, which is the Canadian Council of International Cooperation. >> Okay. >> Each province has its own, I don't know if it's a chapter or, but because it's the VCCIC for British Columbia. >> Yeah. >> VCCIC for Ontario, and so the overwhelming, the overall organization asked me to do a chat, an online chat. >> Okay. >> And it was interesting because I've never done, it's been a surprise, I mean I've chatted online, but I've never done an online chat. >> I don't even know what it means. It sounds to me like you're looking at a screen, a bunch of people are typing to you and you're typing back, is that correct? >> Exactly. >> Okay. >> So you've bombarded with different people typing to you at one time? >> You got it. >> And you've got to try and catch up with it? >> Yeah. >> Well, not to get in the water, man, I don't type fast enough. >> Well, me neither. We're very similar to that. >> I'm a chicken type. >> I call it a religious type. I have two fingers, so you can you shall buy. >> Exactly. >> So a number of both 12 of the member organizations, which would be as an example of the Red Cross Tuesday, so we're on there. And the topic, of course, was podcasting. >> Yep. >> And it was just quite an amazing experience, because like you said, you have this little box open on your screen, and questions are coming in. And of course, everybody's bought a different concern, right? >> Sure. >> It's a different sort of thing, and they all want to be kind of heard. >> Yep. >> And so I'm typing away to answer one question, and of course that will always create a second question, third question for a question. And then somebody else has already typed such a scroll back up to see if I've caught all the questions. >> Oh, my goodness. >> And what was amazing to me of the whole experience, well, so obviously, there's no room for thinking. >> No. >> No, this is not a thinking. Oh, let me, good question, dog. Let me just consider that for a moment, please. >> Well, the next four to two questions come in. >> That's right. And then there's also discussion. You would say something, and they would go, "Oh, that's interesting, so we can do this." And it's making me think about, because they're just like, it's like a verbal diarrhea. >> Right. >> They're all expert typists. >> Right. >> And they can just put down with, and I mean, typing and reading, you know. >> Yeah, trying to do it, man. >> Yeah. It's just like, "Oh, this one." >> I can't chew gum, pop my head and rub my tummy all the time. >> No. >> I can't do it. >> It's quite amazing. So what was interesting for me was the fact that I have all the answers. I wasn't thinking about what the answer would be. >> Really? >> Or would just be like a millisecond. >> Right. >> The way this is what you would do, right? And it's not just the technical aspect of how to podcast. That wasn't what we were talking about. That wasn't my purpose at all. My purpose was to get these people on fire with the possibilities of what could be done. >> Right. >> Right. And once, because once they have the vision, then they can move towards the vision. And for me to just say, "Oh, you guys talk into a recorder and upload it somewhere on the net." Who cares? >> Right. >> But it's the fact that there's thousands of people that want to hear your stories. >> Right. >> Well, just imagine if somebody that you knew and were really, like, knew closely. >> Yeah. >> It could be a cousin or a son, daughter, parent. >> Close friend. >> Close friend. >> Right. >> And they're off to Mozambique. >> Right. >> This is a big adventure. >> Yep. >> Now, unfortunately, you're one of X number of friends and family. >> Mm-hmm. >> And they're over there. They're not probably going to have a lot of time to interact with you. >> Right. >> Things like Skype and phone calls are not as expensive as they were in the '70s when I was growing up or any of that. But you still have time differentials. >> Yep. >> And I'll rest it. So, and this is what I was telling everybody. That person goes and shares their adventure. >> Right. >> Like their own reality show with all of their friends and family back home. >> Mm-hmm. >> And depending on how many volunteers you've got, something was sending over 200 a year. >> Good. >> That's a phenomenon of 200 volunteers times. 200 people listening to each show. >> Yep. >> Now, you're 40,000 people a year being exposed to the good work that you're doing. >> Mm-hmm. >> So, how does that impact sponsors? How does that impact donors? How does that impact future volunteers? How does that impact your returning volunteers? Because that person comes back after a year or three years. Someone else goes there. They take over the show. >> Right. >> So, now, I'm back here having spent three years in Mozambique. I want to know what's happening with Bumbaa and the elders and everything else. So, I'm -- it's like getting, you know, news from the -- >> Yep. >> -- from the field. >> That's cool. >> Yeah. So, they were -- >> They're a great idea, man. >> Yeah. So, they're all really, really excited about this whole thing. So, that was kind of one of the things that happened last week. And it was just amazing. I think we all have areas where we have very -- we have almost -- I don't know if I want to call it intuitive knowledge, but I don't have to think about the answer. >> Right. >> And I think one of the problems that people have is they don't realize the value of that knowledge. >> Well, you know, it's the thing we talked about in Quantum Wealth last year, and that Gladwell talks about in the outliers, which is the 10,000 hours for mastery. >> Yeah. >> Well, you've just done it so much that it's there, and trying to work it out actually gets in your way. And only when you're in the floor of it does it actually come forward. >> Right. >> I mean, you know, you said I did a great speech at your podcast boot camp. >> And you did. >> And I appreciate that. Thank you. And I just decided on what was my intention. And I think that that's always important for everything we do. >> Yes. >> So, what's my intention? And my intention was to be of service in helping people understand the value that they could offer the world by podcasting. Right? And that was it. That was my intention. Right off the bat. So I was like, "Okay, that's what I'm going to do." And I said, "Okay, I got 90 minutes and 85 minutes. I wrapped it up. We did it." >> Yeah. >> And it was from that place of knowing that I know my material, know what it is that I'm talking about, and having a clear, clear, clear intention about delivering it. So that, quote, intuitive knowledge is just this backlog. So it doesn't go through a logical process. It bypasses trying to work out what's the right thing to say here. >> Yeah. Should I be talking about this now or that now? >> Right. And that's the only difference between the amateur and a professional. >> Yeah. >> It's an amateur who has worked out every word. >> Right. >> Right. And a professional doesn't have to do that. You know, because it's like somebody says-- >> They've called every politician in the world an amateur. >> Well, yeah. I can live with that. I won't care about it. But then, you know, you think about it, right? It's interesting, because I'll give you a great example. There was a wonderful speech that Obama did before he was elected present. And I remember watching that speech and watching it after I just had a vocal lesson with my vocal coach and thinking, what a speaker. I mean, this guy is amazing. His cadence, his pacing, his tonality, his delivery superb. And it doesn't matter whether you agree with his politics or not, I'm just watching him as a speaker. >> Right. >> And then I spoke to my vocal coach about six or eight weeks later. And by the way, he actually likes Obama, so it's not anything derogatory. And I said, you know, I said I was really impressed with his speech and he said, yeah, it was a fabulous speech. And he said, have you seen him speak on the fly? And I said, no, because I had one of the comments was how he never owned, he never awed, he never-- you know, he didn't fulfill himself at all. And he said, but if you go to speak on the fly, he doesn't speak like that. He goes, he is a brilliantly well-rehearsed speaker. He is a speaker who can learn his speeches so well that the delivery is perfect. He actually does learn his speeches and that's the distinction between knowing your knowledge base and just flowing and being well-rehearsed and knowing your speech. >> So it's kind of like I have this chapter of a book, say, on history. I can read it and you're going to go, wow, what a great talk he gave. >> Right. >> Then you ask me something about Caesar and I go, who? >> Yeah, no idea, sorry. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. So it's real. >> Just presentation versus knowledge. >> Exactly. >> So, you know, the fact that you could do that under fire while chicken type in it is pretty great for me. >> Yeah, they're pretty excited. It looks like we may go to Iowa, we'll probably go to Alberta to present to the organization. >> Fabulous. >> And it's interesting to me, because we're talking there about that knowledge we have that we don't have access to. But also we don't have access to, we're not aware of it. But there's also information of knowledge we have that we don't have access to. >> Yes. >> That's a different gig again. That's coming back to those safes that we talked about in the last podcast. >> That's right. >> That's the knowledge and the wisdom that we have locked away. You know. >> That's a great way to put it. >> Mm-hmm. >> Because on one side hand, we talk about that as our deepest, darkest, seek, scariest stuff. But in reality, it's our wisdom that we've locked away to prevent us from being who we are. >> Well, here's the interesting thing about it. The mind is fantastic in that when something is overwhelming or we don't feel like we can talk with it, it compartmentalizes it. However, the process is not subtle. It doesn't go in with a tweezer and pull out that issue. It pulls out everything around it. And so everything gets shoved in the box or in the safe. So if you imagine that the thing that you were overwhelmed with was too much is the size of a P. And the P is inside a matchbox. And the matchbox is inside a shoe box, which is surrounded by a bunch of foil and tissues and shavings and that styrofoam popcorn and a couple of old magazines and your mother's old shoes. And in there, as well, is for magnificent diamonds. Beautiful, highly valuable diamonds, but they're somewhere in that mess. They're in there. Because what happened was the mind grabbed everything around that time. Compartmentalized it and shoved it in the safe. So yeah, you may have lost the crappy old shoes, you may have lost the old magazines that don't care about. You may have lost the styrofoam peanuts you don't care about. And you may have lost the thing that was too much for you to cope with at that time. But you've also lost these diamonds. You've lost these brilliant things about who you are, which is this innate knowledge that actually is your authentic self. That's why the program is actually called Reclaim Your Deep Authentic Self. And in that safe, if you will, in that place is the things that you couldn't cope with, but it's also all your gifts and all your talents and all those things. And there's that inherent knowledge. And we bring that forward. It's amazing what happens to people. Because they suddenly go, "Wow, I've had that since I was a child." And I go, "Yeah, absolutely yeah." Often it's something that the adult would say is useless or wasted time, or they speak derogatoryly about it. And it actually becomes their life's blood. You know, it really, because it impassioned them. It's really good. It brings them more alive. Yeah, it brings them more alive in everything that I do. You know, it's neat for me to watch people, human beings. So I watch myself, too. In the every issue we have, it doesn't matter whether it's the friend you talked about last time, who was in overwhelm with issues with his wife and business and such. Every issue we have in our lives is, and it doesn't matter whether we accept this or deny it. It's just what happens. Every issue is nothing more than an unresolved childhood issue resurfacing. Just coming up again. So your friend goes, "But I wasn't married as a kid, how could it be?" No, you had relationships with your child. Yeah, you had a mom. You had a mom, you had a dad, you had relationships. And those relationships and the issues of those relationships are now playing out in everything you do. Whatever was going on in your life at that time is showing up over and over again. If you don't want to be, you know, like I said to you before, you know, people think the past is done and the past is leaking all over the present because they've not dealt with what's at the core. We've got to deal with core issues, get those out of the way. And then we can see when we're reacting to stuff rather than dealing with what's going on. Oh, this, I think this is, this is me, I'm five, and you are my uncle. Or you are my sister, or you are my, you know, and that's what this is. And this is not a theory that you can kind of play with. It's something you have to go through. There's no way in the world you can understand this theoretically. A person can understand this theoretically. The experience of it. It's what changed my life around. Dramatically changed my life around. And if you look at everything that happens from that perspective, it gives a whole new meaning to it. It's rather than I'm a schmuck because it is this, it's this, it's so. I just replayed what happened when I was seven. And people said, well, that's really stupid. Why would I replay something or seven? Because when you, when you did it originally, it got part, it became part of your programming. And you morph that into an adult understanding of why you do it. So you don't do it because you're an idiot. You do it because it made sense when you were seven. The, the, the, the part that's not so bright is the assessment of whether it's still giving you what it is you want or really need at this given time. And so it is interesting because you're talking about, and I think it's great that these NGOs are going over there to, you know, Mozambique or wherever there is they're going to. But I'll tell you that every single, that's why I love this. Is that if you've got five people in Mozambique, for instance, working with an NGO to all doing a podcast, you're going to have five very different views coming back. Yes. Why? Because every one of those views is going to come through their own filters and those filters are whatever's in those shapes. Those shapes. Yes. Right. So, you know, go in and clean out the safe. You're going to get a very different view of what's going on. Yep. And from my perspective, working with these NGOs has really given me a totally different view of the world. I'm sure. Because one of them, well, Vanuatu is a South Pacific island nation. It is the poorest nation in the world. Wow. Okay. So, immediately when I hear that, I think downtown bombs. Right. Straighty living off the street. Yep. Right. Okay. And that was my impression. And so, one of the people in Cuso went to Vanuatu and did a show. Right. And did a podcast episode, interviewed a couple of the elders and the other people. And the per capita income in Vanuatu is the lowest in the world. Right. And it always is a year or some such thing. But the interesting thing is that there's no hunger in Vanuatu. And there's no homeless. Everybody has a home. Right. Everybody has enough food to eat. Right. They just put it on iPhones. They just don't have iPhones. And between TVs. And, you know, it's profitable. So, you know, they don't have furnace. Right. And I don't think they have air condition. You know. So, they live this lifestyle of partnering with the environment. Yep. Relatively speaking. And, you know, the ocean brings in lots of fish, palm trees brings in lots of coconuts. And they grow, you know, some stuff that they want. And after listening to them, I was, you know, they were feeling sorry for us. Sure. You know. Like, you know, we hear about all this distress and all these problems you guys have and everything else. You should come to Vanuatu. Well, you know, this is, that's the first world snubbery. Yes. First world snubbery never ceases to amaze me. We look back and we think about the pilgrims and such who came or the conquistadors who came out of Spain. Who came to North America and other countries, but North America and decimated the natural culture. You know, the native Indians and even the native religions. But it's all kinds of damage in the name of ours is better. Yeah. Right. You know, we're more civilized. We're going to murder you because we're more civilized because you have rituals that we don't agree with. We don't agree with and are against our religion. I mean, it's so freaking ludicrous. So we have this silly idea. And unless you've traveled a lot, and you know, I know you've traveled a lot and I've traveled a lot. Unless you've traveled a lot, you don't get it. Because you're traveling, even if you travel a little bit at first, you travel and you make everything by comparison. Oh, well, they don't have, they don't have the same fish and chips as we do. They don't have the same beers we do. Oh, they don't have big TVs. They don't have, you know, their beds are smaller or their bathroom, their toilets are different. You know, and it's only when you're squat. Yeah. And it's only when you start really traveling, you begin to look at not that stuff, but the people and how they are. And you start realizing, hmm, yeah, we've got a big screen TV in every room and we've got three cars and we've got two homes and we've got Rolex watches and we've got iPhones and iPads and, you know, whatever else it is. But these folks don't seem to be any less happy with than us and maybe, maybe they're even happier. Yeah. So, you know. I got my kid yelling and screaming because he's got the old version of the iPod. Right. You know, and he's 13 years old, late on the floor, in the Sony store or somewhere, you know, banging his feet on the floor, the Apple store, so in the center. Right. So, it's part of the trap is that we think we're better. You know, we think we're better. We're somehow, and all it is, is that we're somehow closer to the Hollywood image of a perfect life. But a Hollywood image is meant to be that. It's an image. It's not supposed to be a cultural exchange of how to live. Right. But that's the problem, is we look at those movies and we say, "Oh, that's how we're supposed to live." Exactly. You start emulating that. And I don't think there are too many people, or I know the sun, but not too many people who would say, "You know, it's not fair that I don't live a fair retail lifestyle." Most people would say, "Well, that's a fairytale. Don't be silly." Yeah. But what is a movie? Yeah. A movie is the modern version of a fairytale. Yeah. If the Grimm brothers would have been around today, they would have been bigger than Steven Spielberg. Yeah, that's right. Right? They created some amazing fairytales. Pretty dark, but they created some amazing fairytales. Right. Well, they just did that with what they had at the time. But if you put those guys into modern culture, they'd make amazing movies. So, what is a fairytale? It's a movie. What is a movie? It's a fairytale. Should you try and live to a fairytale? You don't know what's ludicrous. Well, guess what? Yeah. Trying to live to a fairytale called a movie or Hollywood images of how life is. Yeah, this is the perfect marriage. This is the perfect life. Yeah. Exactly. Not going to happen. It's not how it works. Not at all. But when we think that's how it works, what happens to that? Well, I think when we think that that's how it works, what we end up with is we end up constantly comparing ourselves to others. Yeah. So, is that healthy? Not at all. It's destructive. Yeah. Any -- all comparison is negative. So is what's remembering that. And there's one simple reason for that, because it's only one of you. Right. So, all comparison is negative. How can you compare yourself to anybody else that is only you? That and you're you. So, all comparison is negative, wasted time. Not a lot of it. Waste of time. That's great. So, there it is. Not at all. Just waste your time. Oh, I am not as good as you with this. Who cares? Well, you're not me. That's right. All right. Right. So, there are things that I'm way better at than you. Things that you're better at, way better than me. Should I spend my whole time trying to be as good as you at what you do? Why would I do that? No. That'd be insane. Right. Because we're going to meet someone else and have got to put all my energy to be as good as them at that. So, I never get to actually embrace or feed my own gifts. Yeah. And that's, again, part of what we lose when we lock up those saves. We lock up what is authentically as what we have to offer. And we start locking up the saves when I'm looking externally and saying, "Oh, well, let me be as good as Fred or my mom or my dad or my brother." I can't even be this, which is not at all going towards who I authentically am. Right. And so, we lose the authentic self. And we've got to regain the authentic self. And what's cool about that is it has enormous value in many of the things that you will have taken for granted. And you can really embrace that in yourself. Yeah, because that's one of the things I got over this whole talk about authentic value. And the whole 10,000 hours that we talked about outlines, right? Right. Who looked at him? Nothing. Gladwell. Mark. Malcolm. Gladwell. Boy. Read anything he writes. Yeah, he's great, right. Boy. Just doctors. Just absolutely amazing. Brilliant stuff. I said, there was, he had 10,000 hours, but we may look back on our lives and say, "I'm not good at any." Right. We don't see where we spent. We don't always see sometimes. We don't always see where we spent that 10,000 hours. Well, you spent 10,000 hours in an apprenticeship. And so, we go, "Okay, well, you know, I've got a master's degree and so, you know, I've got an apprenticeship of doing something and I've spent the time." And we somehow justify that. But what we don't understand is that those master hours, the 10,000 hours are called the mastery hours. Gladwell describes them as the mastery hours. They're very often done peripherally. They're not your primary focus. They're done peripherally. So they're done while you're doing something else. Right. And because of the loss of our authentic self from childhood, we've often devalued that peripheral learning. But in fact, it is actually where our greatest value is. Yeah. So, you know, a gentleman I knew who every day, every day, his parents, both his parents worked. And every day, I don't know, this is every day, him and his sister would come home. They did not live in a first world country. They would come home and all they had was these very old movies that were on, it was one channel and it would show old movies in the daytime. Yeah. And so when he came home from the school Fred Asterebium. Oh. And so him and his sister were dense. That's what they were doing. They were dense. And he just loved to dance. He would dance and dance and dance. And so when they were about to play, they were played, but he would also dance and dance and dance and dance and dance and try to do the first day of moves. And then he saw movies about ballet that were old movies like the Red Shoes and he would try to do ballet. And he can matter about being boy or girl. He just loved to dance. And he danced. He saw something and he just elated. He emulated and it would just, it set his heart and his soul on fire as a child. And then he moved from that country and he moved to Canada. And when he moved to Canada, his father wanted a good life for him of course. And so he was actually a very, very, very bright young man. And he flew to school without any effort whatsoever and really just didn't care. But his dad went into going to university. So he went to university and his dad went into being an engineer. So he went to be an engineer and he hated it. But he was top of the class and everything without ever trying because he was so bright. And he got a master's degree. And while he was in his first year, his master's degree was being offered jobs that were six figures in his first, before he even, before he even had come out. And so they were already competing for him. And he came out and he got a job and he raised in the job within one year. He got four promotions. So it was outrageous how fast he was climbing the corporate ladder. And then one day he didn't show up for work. And everybody went where the heck he was. And figured he was sick, must be, you know, whatever. They tried to catch him over about a week, tried to phone him. Nobody could get him. Somebody went to finally a friend, went to his house. No one there. Done. Couldn't find him. Couldn't find him anywhere. He was 26 years old at the time. Completely disappeared off the planet as far as everybody was concerned. The only person who knew where he was was his sister. He moved to New York City. Yeah. Became a dancer. Wow. Good for you. Now, he went and auditioned for the Martha Graham Company, which is the premier, number one modern dance company in the world. He went and danced, he went and auditioned for them. You can't get in there unless you've been classically trained from three years old. Wow. He got in. Over the period of the next five years, he became the lead dancer. Wow. Lead dancer. He had his 10,000 hours by the time he was 10 years old. Right. Right. And he never stopped dancing. So even while he was engineering. Even while he was engineering, he'd go to dance class. For no reason. He just loved to dance. Wow. And he would, and I asked him, and he said, for no reason, which meant there was no career in it, because his father would talk, and the only reason matters is a job. There's a job, right. But he was doing it for love. And the last time I spoke to him, he was 31. He was 25 officially. He actually was 31 in real age, but they thought he was 25. He lied about his age because he looked younger. And he was too old to be dancing. And he was still lead. They brought up about him in Vogue magazine. I mean, it's a wonderful story about following your passion. And about, yeah, people are going to shove you in a box. But you see, that was a part of him that he'd put away in that safe. Yeah. Because of his dad's instructions. And his dad did not find out until he was lead dancer. When he was living with his couches in New York City. His dad's assistant. Still thought he was still university in Toronto. My question to you, dear listener, is what are you passionate about that you've undermined? What have you shoved in that safe? What is it that you've hidden away? And what is your perspective that no one else has? And maybe you can come back to that because I'm guessing that somewhere in that safe is your authentic self. And maybe you've buried it. And if you want to find out more about what I've been talking about, which is discovering your authentic self. You can go to deepauthenticself.com. Deepauthenticself.com. And if you go there, there are three modules you'll be able to be part of. We've made them absolutely free to you. If you want to attend deep, I'm sorry to tell you you'll have to qualify. Not everybody can get in. Only 14 or 16 people qualified last time. I only hold this event every two years. So if you want to get in, at least go through the modules and you can do the homework. And if you want to apply, you can do that. And if you don't, you get three amazing modules, absolutely free. Deepauthenticself.com. All right. Well, thanks, Doug, for sharing everything you've shared today. It's been awesome. Thank you, sir. My pleasure. Thanks for telling us about the NGOs. I really love that. I think it's fantastic. What are you doing? It's making a difference. Raising consciousness in a different way. And that's fabulous. So, until next time, live with courage. This podcast is a part of the C-suite Radio Network. For more top business podcasts, visit c-suiteradio.com. (chimes)
