[music] Welcome back everybody, you're listening to the Mind Mastery Podcast, starring the Mind Master Himself, Dog Baron. [laughter] And I'm your co-host, Scott Tatton, the Dean of Blogonomics and Pedology. And welcome to the show, Dog. Thank you, it's good to be here. Thanks for being here. For you being here too. Thanks for all of you who are listening. It feels like it's been a long time. I guess we might have missed one in between somewhere. Are we? No, I don't. Well, we're at the sort of tail end of when we normally are. And the reason is, is our lives have been so full. I mean, we just had Quantum Wealth Mastery. We did indeed. The time has just flown by since that happened. And I want to talk a little bit about that and what you thought of it. And let you know what I thought. It was just an amazing event. On my way here, something really weird happened. That never happens to Scott. Only every time he's coming here. [laughter] So I'm driving and there's construction. And these little pylons are going from two lanes to one lane. And everybody basically goes into the one lane well in advance. And then this guy decides he's going to cut in front. So he's coming and whipping down the empty lane, which is on the outside of the highway. And the guy in front of me switches lanes. So he blocks them off, right? So then the traffic just sort of crawls forward. And I'm leaving space for this guy to get back into his spot. And the guy behind him was trying to get, I guess he figured, oh well, and he goes behind me. And then this guy comes back into his lane. And then a couple minutes later, he's back in the outside lane again because another vehicle is roared up, right? But this guy decides, screw you. And he goes into the ditch park, whatever that's called, right? And the two of them are just charging down the highway, one in the gravel, one in the lane. And then the lane ends, right? And the gravel ends, so the guy on the outside. And he had a vehicle, by the way, that if he'd smashed it, it probably would have looked better. And so he edges over edges over as the pylons go. And of course the guy in the lane, he's edging edging over. And then the guy that's in my lane, he basically stops, because we're all looking at this thing. And there's an accident in the book that happened, right? Two bulls in a China shop. And eventually the guy who had blocked everybody is actually in the oncoming traffic lane, right? Because he got pushed over so far. The guy behind, he was nothing to do with this, stops so he gets back in. And then life continues. But I mean, this was like, I was like front row center, right in front of me, this whole thing is unfolding. I'm thinking, there's some, there's some ego minds that work here. And so I thought, you know, I'd like to get your insights in kind of what was going on there. Well, you know, you've heard me say this a million times, and suddenly, oh, a listener, as I like to refer to you. If you were listening, oh, a listener, even if you say many times, that in my opinion, not the truth, my opinion, is that we are surrounded by metaphor all the time. And if we pay attention, we actually can be vibrantly awake by just noticing the things around us. Right. And so what you've just described to me is this beautiful metaphor. So, there is a flow, all right, the traffic is flowing. There is a flow, and there are those people who want to be ahead of that flow. They want to jump through, they want to do whatever it is, and they're not. And so now we can look at that two levels. So there's a general flow, which we might say is the mechanism of how people work. They just, you know, they just go along with whatever they're going along with. And there are others who are a little more ambitious, a little more driven, and they say, you know what, I'm not getting that. I'm not going to wait for everybody else. I'm going to get ahead. I'm going to do it, and they're more driven. So that's the guy on the outside lane. But there are those people who are in that flow, who don't like people, who are stepping up and being aggressive or being ambitious and taking the steps to do so. And they become the police of the flow, they become the police of the norm, they become the police of making sure that everybody follows the rules. And so they get pissed off of that, and invariably, what are they doing? They're actually protecting their own mindset. So they're saying, if I'm not part of the sheeple, if I'm going to do what everybody else is doing, I should make sure no one else is breaking that rule. Now, we can look at it from a legal, we can look at it from a danger point of view, and maybe the guy speeding in the outside lane is in the wrong from that point of view. But as a metaphor... And then actually no one was going above the speed limit. Right. But it couldn't. But as a metaphor, what I find interesting is why the hell did this guy have to come out of the flow traffic that he was in to block somebody else? And it's one of the things you've heard me talk about so often, is that when you share your dreams with people, be careful you don't share your dreams with people who are going to chop you down and tell you to conform. Because that's what that guy was. He was saying, you're not going to get out of line, you're not going to get ahead, you're not going to get ahead of me, you have to conform like everybody else. And I think that we're confronted with that on a daily basis, do as you're told, behave yourself, follow the rules or somebody will slap your wrists. And the truth of the matter is, as you heard me say, is you have to be willing to take that slap on the wrist if you want to get ahead. You've got to be willing to stand up and stand out. You've started out in the grocery store managers business, I mean you're in that business. How many people from that industry have gotten out of that flow and really blazed their own path to become internet gurus like yourself? One. Which I do? No. Exactly. None of them are still looking for jobs in new supermarkets. Right? But I can bet that if we go back in time to that time when you were about to break away and you said, listen, I'm going to forge a career in the internet business. And back then the internet business was young, right? Yeah, it really wasn't even there. Right. What would those people have said then? Yeah, good luck. Good luck. And some of them would have tried to block you and said, get back in line. Well, I had people call me when they found out that I was leaving and saying, we need you, you can't leave. Exactly. And I was like, thank you very much for sharing, but I made my decision. But that's not trying to make sure you don't get ahead of them. And I don't think it's because people are mean, I think, and it's the thing I said before, I think it's important for us all to realize, is people don't try and stuff you because they're mean. I don't think that that's true generally. I think some people, it's rarely. Well, I mean, there are mean people, but that doesn't mean that's what's applying. No. What I think is happening mostly is if you are part of a group, let's say grocery store managers or whatever it is, and you're going along with that group, and then suddenly you decide to get out of that lane. And stop burning your own path. They feel like they have to stop you. Because if you go off in another direction and you are successful, they will have to question their reality. Right. So you become the pebble in their shoe that reminds them, I'm in this job that I don't like. I didn't want to be in this bloody job. I wish I had a broke away 10 years ago and look, Scott broke away, and now here he is speaking of quantum wealth, masteries on stage with eight other, seven other top speakers, speaking to large audiences who are loving what he does, who seem as the leading authority in what he does with quantum economics is it, but you know, it frames the crap out of them, because they went up to question their own reality, and I think that that's what happens for a lot of people. And so for me, that's who that guy was in that traffic lane. Like, you know, he could have just carried on, he could have carried on and made it so that the other guy couldn't butt in with him. But he actually had to get out of his own lane to block somebody else, which is an aggressive act to, you know, somebody would say, well, the guy in the outside, a little bit aggressive. No, the guy who tried to block him was aggressive. The guy who was in the outside lane was taking advantage of a situation where he thought he could get an advantage. The guy who actually did it, and the guy who got out of the floor lane to block you the person, he was the aggressor, and what he was saying is you're not going to break the rules. I think it's a great, powerful metaphor for all of us to stop and say, how are you blocking other people? Well, and you know, when you look at the rules, I guess we're both Mavericks, and I just look at some of the rules in our society, and I shake my head. You know, like, I'm going down a road, there's a red light, and it's two in the morning, and there's nobody for, like, ten miles around, and I still stop. And every time I stop, I think, what an idiot am I. You know, stop, take a look, there's nobody there, it's two in the morning, there'll never be anybody here, just go, right? And why they don't have blinking lights at two in the morning, right? Exactly. You know, I just look at it and stop, like, stop signs. Yeah. I have yield signs all over you. It's where, but it just, it just amazes me, but you're right, like, I think there's a certain segment of society that wants to have these rules and control what's going on, so that they feel safe. And as we've talked about many times, I mean, even in the book, don't read this, your ego won't like it. What we talk about so much is that the ego doesn't like change, it likes things to be the same. And so, when you look at all those rules, in fact, what they are is ego rules, because they guarantee that things will stay the same. They keep things conformed and the same. And so, when somebody breaks the rule, somebody feels like they've got to be the policeman of that. Yeah. And so, they become what I call the ego police. The ego steps up into this, "I'm not going to let you in." Why? What is it going to do to you? Is it interfering with you in any way, shape, or form? No. Yeah. So, why did you do that? Right? Because you're not, you're not breaking rules if I can. Well, you can, but you don't want to, but now you've pissed at me for doing it. Right. And that's what it is. And like, who's being hurt, right? Exactly. I mean, it's one thing, if you've got a hammer and you smash somebody on their hand with it. That's another thing, if you're hammering a nail and you go like, "Oh, we don't hammer nails around here." Exactly. It's very bizarre, because those around us always want us to conform to whatever the set rules are. And what's fascinating about it, for me, and you've done a lot of traveling too, for me as a traveler, is to see how the rules are different in different cultures. Yes. And so, you really have to pay attention to that, because what you think is right isn't right. It's only right inside your context of your culture. Right. And your context of your culture might be the nation you were born in. It might be the religious culture or the color, the skin color culture you're in. I mean, it may just be the culture of your family. Yeah. They're all cultures. And you know, this is the way we do it. This is the way we do it. No, it's not. Well, and you know, you bring up a great point, because it's also, it's very unconscious. Absolutely. And one of the things that I'm looking at is my family right now. Right. Because my father's old and he's old, and we're not sure how much longer he's going to be around. Right. But what was interesting was, when I graduated university and I was about to go out on my own, I said to my friends, you know, "I'm sorry I'm not going to be seeing too much of you anymore." And they go, "What?" And I said, "Well, I have to leave town." And they go, "Why? Why are you leaving town?" Well, once you graduate, you leave town. That was my belief, right? Because what happened, my grandparents lived in Regina. Right. My parents lived in Winnipeg, and all I knew was living in it. The parents lived in a place away from their parents. Right. So when I was my turn to be a man, I had to live in a place away from my parents, right? So what was funny was, when I graduated, I went to Australia, traveled around India and stuff like that. When I got home, my parents had left, and they were transferred to Vancouver. So actually, I always say, "I never left home home left me." Right. But there they were in Vancouver living, and here I was in Winnipeg living. Right. And they've moved to different places. I've moved to different places, and I have never, ever lived in the same city as my folks. Now, my dad's youngest brother was the only member of his family that stayed in the Regina area, okay? All the other four brothers and sisters left, and he was the only one there. So my sister is living in the same city, and she's the youngest, and there's only two of us. She's living in the same city as my parents. Right. And she was living somewhere else, and they made a decision to move to Tori, and then they ended up, my parents moved to Victoria after that. But they did it specifically to be close to the family, right, to my parents, right? And now, my son, my oldest son, lives in Montreal. Right. Twenty, and he's playing music, and everything else, and going to university, and he's doing it in Montreal, right? My youngest son lives with me, and he's like, "I am never leaving Vancouver." And as far as he's concerned, I will always be here, too, right? Yes, right. And I'm looking at this dynamic, and I'm thinking, "Where did they learn this?" Well, that's interesting, because that is actually an example of cultural scripts and resonance fields. So the cultural script, which is a family culture, is a message that's passed down through generations. And the resonance field is the consciousness that's held about whatever that cultural script is. So inside of your family, the cultural script is that the eldest moves away from the family, and the youngest stays with the family. It seems pretty obvious. And it's so interesting to see how, as you said, how unconsciously we conform. And that's why, in the book, don't read this, your ego will like it. I ask people to take a look at what you believe. Do you believe it, because it's actually you chose to believe it? And the answer is very rarely, yes. Most often, people believe what they believe, because it was a passed down, inherited, adopted belief, that you never considered whether it was right or wrong, because it was given to you before you were cognitive. And we had the time to think about it. And if you asked anybody, none of us would have, I think I'm the only one that sees the pattern. Of course. And everybody else is just like, "Well, this is just the way my life unfolded." And the thing about that is we actually think we're free. That's what I think is fascinating. We think we're free, and we've never bothered to examine the pattern. You see, if you, I'll give you a religious example, just because it's obvious. If your great-grandfather was a Catholic, and your grandmother was a Catholic, and your grandmother and your grandfather were a Catholic, and your mother and father were a Catholic, then you're a Catholic, right? Yeah. But did you choose it? No. No. But you think you're free, you know, that you freely go to church every Sunday. But you never stop to examine whether that is actually your faith. It's actually a great-grandparent's faith that just got passed down. Yeah. Now, if you've examined that, I mean, there's a guy, and I believe you met him at Quantum Wealth, he's name is Franco. Good guy. Yeah. And I challenge Franco on this because he comes from a long line of Catholics, and he's from the old country, and also it was definitely that cultural thing. And him and I had a conversation that he was at one of my programs called Quantum Life Mastery, and I challenge him on that privately, but I challenge him on that. And about six months later, he goes, "I hated you for that question. I hated you for that question." Yeah. And he said, "That really bothered me." He goes, "But you know what?" He said, "I went away and took on your challenge and really examined." He said, "I'd never looked into other religions. I looked into other religions. I really read their philosophies and read." He said, "Now, I have a much better understanding of all those religions, and I choose to be a Catholic." And he goes, "I feel way more connected to it than I ever did." Because it's his choice now. And I said to him that I'm so happy for you that you're a Catholic because now it's a choice, as opposed to an adopted belief. And that's the problem. These things are automatic for us. We follow the fricking rules, and the rules are not even ours. They're not even our parents, and they're not grandparents. We just took them on. Instead of stopping and going, "Is this for me?" Yeah, we didn't even know there was a rule. No. Exactly. So let's challenge our listener. Pick with just a listener to really examine again. Examine some of your beliefs. Really take a look. I'm just going to ask you to maybe just take out pen and paper when you sit down with this, and just think about two or three things that you believe. And then ask, "Why do I believe that? Why is that true for me?" And then take a look at the next thing, which is where we started out, which is how are you part of some flow? Why are you part of some, not as in the dynamic flow of life, but how are you part of some rigidity, some rules? And how do you block other people when they're trying to not do it the way that you think it should be done? And who blocks you when you try to do things in a different way? And the only reason I'm asking you to look at these things is so that you can actually look at the patterns of your life and therefore have new choices, because from those choices you can be empowered to do something different. And I'll add to that too, as you go through life, observe what's going on around you. Yeah, actually observe the things that seem to be random and not connected to you. How about, and this is one of my teaching philosophies, how about that you examine everything that's going on around you as if you were in a classroom? So it's a demonstration to teach you something, but the teacher is not going to tell you what it is, they're just going to demonstrate it for you. Like Scott driving down the highway, he recognized him as a lesson, and then he went away and thought about it, rather than just going, "Oh, yeah, and somebody in traffic." He actually gets in traffic, but I would have thought. Well, too, he gets in traffic, and he said what he did is he came away and thought about that. And if this is a pattern, if this is a lesson in his life, what is it? So become the great observer of your own life, become the great observer of everything that's going around you. And I assure you, you become a lot freer, a lot more enlightened, and kind of in this cool, observational position. Yeah, and that's a very nice place to live your life from. It is because you don't get as upset over stuff. A lot of things go. Awesome. So if you want to know more about the mind master himself, head over to www.dovedov. Baron, b-a-r-o-n.com. He thought I was going to misspell it. He's looking at me. They're a little pause, and you can go over to freemindmasterypodcast.com. If this is the first time you've heard this, and there's all sorts of, there's over 30 or 40 previous shows that we've actually over 50. No, there's more than 50. We're almost at 60 now. We're almost at 60 now. Where does the time go? Exactly. So much fun. And yeah, so. So head on over there. Have a listen. Maybe if you go to iTunes, look up dog Baron. You'll find me on that too. And subscribe, and then you'll be able to get all of these podcasts as they come out automatically going to your MP3 player, or wherever it is that you download to your computer. And if you want to find out about my workshops, my programs, my books, you can go to www.dovebaron.com. Or you can go over to our main site, which is Baronmastery.com. And also, if you want to find out more about the Dean of Pidology, and blogonomics. Head over to www.meatscoth.com. I've just done two clinics. One on the web, one on podcasting. And about an hour and a half of the videos there, it will take you right through how to get a website up quickly, how to get a podcast up quickly. And another place you can go is extremecopy.com if you're looking to do some stuff on the internet. Yeah. 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And that's what First Access is like. It allows me to go into some of the areas that I don't get a chance to go into in a traditional workshop. So it's an absolutely fabulous event. First access event.com. Or you can go to DoveBaron.com with this details on there too. Until next time, leave us your comments and your feedback. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. [Music] This podcast is a part of the C Suite Radio Network. For more top business podcasts, visit c-suiteradio.com. (chimes)