[music] Welcome back everybody. You're listening to the Mine Mastery Podcast. I'm your co-host, Scott Patton, along with Scott Parent. How are you doing today? Good to be here as always. Exciting. What's the great things going on with all of it? Yeah, we're going to get to some probably in our next episode. Yeah, we've got some just some huge stuff going on. I'm just so excited about it. Yeah, sleep is at a premium today. And if you get ahold of a bit of sleep, it'll be good. What's the greatest stuff going on? Right. Awesome. So one of the things that we mentioned, I think in our previous podcast that we were going to talk about was DNA and the Mine. Mm-hmm. And I think this is an incredibly deep, fascinating topic. And I can't wait to hear more about it. Yeah, it's interesting because, you know, I realized that there are all kinds of experts out there. And it's been, a friend of mine was talking to me a couple of weeks ago. And he said, "You know, your biggest curse is that you know so much about so many different areas." And it's not that I know all. It's just that I've had this really massive hunger all my life for knowledge. Right. And how things tie together. And so it's taken me in all kinds of different areas, but with this great tieback, which is the Mine. How is the Mine connected to this? So I've studied quantum physics, I've studied metaphysical studies, I've got into biology and physiology and quantum immunology and all kinds of cool, very interesting stuff, that your average quote-unquote motivational speaker would never have a clue about. Nothing wrong with what they do. Well, they do. It's great. And they might not even have ever been exposed to it. Well, they may have no interest either. Right? But for me, it's about this holistic understanding that spiritually, mentally, physically, we're – that all the things – none of those things are separate. Right. And we've had them as all separate categories. But for me, I have a great deal of challenge trying to separate them because they see how every single one of them is related, how they all get connected together. So that over time has lived me into these great studies about how the body works, how the biochemistry works, how the neurochemistry works, and how it works at a quantum level, as well as at a biological level, and as well as at a mental level and how the whole thing is tie in. Wow. That's fascinating. Yeah. So it reminds me, oftentimes, I've heard stories of researchers where they'll research one little area and find out something and then another researcher and another discipline research is something else. And there'll be like seven or eight of these little pockets of research going on, and they don't – they don't see the big picture how it all ties in. And then you get somebody that knows a little bit about all of those seven projects that are going on and sort of all of a sudden they tie it all together and they go, "I can't believe that what I was doing in archaeology had any relevance at all to what you were doing in biology." You know, the great example of that is, you know, as you know, I saw on quantum stuff, on the quantum tie-ins and stuff, for now, 25 years. It's exactly 25 years this year, 25 years this month, actually. Wow. Happy anniversary. Thank you. It's actually just plain. 25 years this month. This is our 25th anniversary vote. This is exactly what I first started teaching in my living room to six people. But over those years of looking at all of those things, it's been fascinating for me to see how these things are all connected, how nothing is separate, nothing. And even when I started out in one area, it always led me to another area. And when I started teaching in the quantum realm, I was really out there. Nobody really understood it. And I talked about it for years and years. And then, of course, in the early 2000s, the movie, "What the Bleed Came Out," and that really blew people's mind. Yeah. That's a great name. The name of the movie. It was terrific. And out of that, Lynn McTaggart wrote a book called "The Field." Now, Lynn is a journalist. That's what she is. She's a journalist. She's not a quantum biologist, but she is. But where she was absolutely brilliant was she took pockets of information of people who totally never communicated before, put it all together and really gave people an understanding of how these things tied together. And that's just one example. And that is what it is. It's like taking all the bits to see that there's a synergy where all the parts equal more than all the parts. Right. So that together, amazing things happen. That's understanding the biology, the neurology, the physiology, all these things tie in. Huh. That's fascinating. It actually, when you're talking, you remind me of talking to my dad. My dad is a good thing. Is that a good thing? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we have a Scottish heritage. Right. And he's a phenomenal historian. Right. He just loves reading history, loves Shakespeare, you know, reads all of the Shakespearean plays. He also is very much into archeology. And genealogy. And all these different things, right, all these different disciplines. And of course, what is the big question in England? Where was King Arthur? Right. Right. So he figured it out. Right. Now, we don't know if he's right or wrong or anything else, but it's not where everybody sort of says he should be or where they think maybe perhaps he could be. But he put together this whole big theory. And it pulled upon the translation of name places from the Welsh to English. Yeah. Scottish to English. And what the descriptions of where Camelot was. Yeah. And, you know, what the river was looking like and all this sort of stuff. So, yeah, that doesn't mean it was in Glastonbury. No, no. He's got it way up near Scotland, actually. Is that right? Scotland and Wales in around there. I have to make sure. Yeah, I need a conversation with you guys because I'm totally into all that, too. Oh, but when you listen to it, it's like, well, you see, this guy over here talks about this and this guy over here talks about that and this guy over. And he says, when you think about all these things and who they were and some of the battles and who they were fighting and what was going on in the fifth century AD, all of a sudden, and you know, historically, where the picks came and landed first and where the Vikings landed, but, you know, the guys that are doing the digging don't think about where people were coming from, right? Right. And where the languages were this and it's just all these different disciplines. And he says, I'm pretty sure it's right here, right? I'm telling him, like, you should publish this, right? Right. And he's like, but that's the thing. I mean, well, your dad's doing is what we're talking about. Exactly. You're not stopping. You know, you and I know this and this is an important thing in business. You've got to, if you want to be very successful, create a niche. Find a niche. Find this tiny little area to focus on. But the problem when it comes to intelligence, that many of us do that too. And then find this little area. We focus on that and we become brilliant at it, but we've all met people. We're absolutely geniuses in a specific subject and idiots and other things. How many of us have met people who've got, you know, two or three PhDs in higher-level mathematics or whatever it is? And you can't talk to them. But they can't hold a conversation or order a latte with a translator, right? I mean, so it's like Bobby Fisher. If I was to talk with Bobby Fisher, you know, one of the most brilliant chess champions of all time. Yeah. I don't think we would understand three words, the other person said. Right. You know, so when it comes to a living life, we have to have this broader perspective. Yes. And for me, that just is how I got led into this whole understanding of the quantum immunobiology and quantum physics as it pertains to the physical realm. It's interesting, recently reading an article that shows the plants, which we thought of as very much a biological process and I'm showing a quantum biology to them. Plants? Plants, okay. They show a quantum biology. Can you give me an example? The way they transfer energy and they synthesize the energy of the sun is a little different than they originally thought it was. And now there seems to be a quantum process that allows for leaps. When we think of quantum, we tend to think of the term quantum leap. Right. What that really means is that when we think of plants, we think of a small gradual change. Yeah. When you think of photosynthesis, which is how plants do it, they take the light and they change the light into energy and grow. But in the process, they also take in carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. Well, that process is not quite the way we thought of it and now there's a quantum realm to it. So we begin to understand that many of the things that we thought of as very much mechanical or Newtonian are now having a much more quantum level. Poor Newton. Right. Everything he talks about is just getting smashed. But it's not. You know, that's the interesting thing about it, even if you speak to a quantum physicist. Everything is, Newton is absolutely right at the big realm. But when you get below the big realm, it breaks down beyond that and it becomes something else altogether. And that's the quantum realm. And the challenge has always been understanding the bridge between these two worlds, which is the physical and the physical, mechanical Newtonian, and then the quantum. And what that ties in is called field theory, which is what I talk about, the quantum understanding of resonance or quantum fields and how these fields transfer energy. Okay. Now what's interesting about it when we talk about DNA is the mind and the way we think. You know, we used to have this idea, not that long ago, really, that the way you thought and the way you felt had absolutely nothing to do with your body. And I can remember. Right. Our emotional feelings. It took me like 45 years to get over that. Right. Because that's what I thought. Well, I remember that when it was breaking news that you could get a pectic ulcer because of stress, the way you were mentally thinking and your emotions were affecting your body and you could get a pectic ulcer. And that was mind-blowing for so many people. Right. What are you talking about? This is my body. It's got nothing to do with what I think. Now we don't even refer to it as a mind and body. In medical terms it's called mind-body. Right. Mind-body. Yeah. It's the same thing. They're interchangeable. They connect to each other. Now back in, even at the end of, in the 90s, there was this great event going to happen. It was going to be mapping the genome and we figured that we'd find out what makes us who we are by virtue of our genes. And we'd get into the DNA and that would tell us everything. And what most people don't know is that that research was not done by governments, what was done by the corporations. The purpose of that was that then they could patent human beings. Well, they could patent the actual genes. Right. And so they'd find the gene for confidence and they'd splice that gene over the gene for shyness and you know, and they literally are now patenting DNA. Wow. Right. I didn't know about that. Montecito and, okay, there's all kinds of weird conspiracy shit going on, whatever. It's certainly worth considering to look at. Yeah. Imagine having a pill that made you confident. Well, that was their idea. But the key in understanding all this is, number one, when they did the genome, they discovered that it was less than one-third of the amount of genes they expected. So we're not as complex as we think we are. Okay. So there's very little difference between, at a genetic level, between us in a field mouse. Okay. It's not a lot of difference. But what the difference is a lot of consciousness that we hold. And what we also know is that we have genes that have just not been turned on or have been turned off. And then it's just not functioning. Excuse me. So, for instance, now, lysing, I believe there are 17, may have my numbers wrong, I apologize. But all these lysing, lysing genes, and only three of them are turned on. But it's not the same three in any person. Oh. It's all this massive permutations of which ones get turned on. Why are they turned on? And what we discover is that certain genes are on and certain genes are off, but that can change. And with this idea of genes being the absolute, we thought that genes were all on, actually, probably. Well, no, we just thought it was whatever you were genetically, that's what you were. Right. And now we know it's not true. Excuse me. Well, you can turn on the gene and turn off the gene, and now you're different. Well, they change. They change based on what's going on with us, emotionally and mentally. And so we all heard, I mean, all heard mockery of placebos. Right. It's a placebo effect, blah, blah, blah. Well, placebo and no, and no sebo effects are scientific research. They're very important research, because what they show is, in a scientific way, that if I tell you that this is a certain medicine and will help you with a certain sickness, disease, et cetera, and you have a response to that, why did you have the response? Right. It's not just important that you had a response. Yeah. But why? Right. Why do you have a response? And the reason you had a response is because something was going on in a mental level that changed your immunological background, your whole biochemistry, your neurology, all kinds of things changed in order for you to have the same effect, because the fact is the biggest pharmaceutical company in the world is between your ears. Yeah. You produce every chemical there is. So if you are given a sugar pill, which is what they're called, if you're given a sugar pill, this says it's going to help you with your anxiety, and the other test group are given pills for anxiety, and there is a 60% response in the placebo group, and there is a 70% response in the actual group, there's clearly no side effects in the placebo group. Yeah. So which way do you go? Right. So then we have to say, well, what creates that change? How did that change the DNA? How does that change the immunological response? Mm-hmm. Because the immune system has to respond. Right. And it responded because once the brain or the mind tells the brain this is what's going on, the hypothalamus, which is the mood and appetite center of the brain, which produces all these chemicals, produces the chemicals accordingly. Right. Just say. Okay. And now it goes. And so people have spontaneous remissions from a sugar pill from a placebo. So the eye... And we see that with faith healing too. Absolutely. You know, someone pops you on the forehead, you are healed, and they fall down, they get up and they walk out and they're happy. Right. And it's amazing when you think that you can tell yourself something. So what changes? Yeah. What changes is the level of belief. That's it. It's the level of belief. See, when you take the actual drug or the placebo drug... Yeah. You don't know. You don't know. It's the level of belief. Now here's the other thing. They've done the test the other way. And the test the other way is this. This drug has these side effects, but it's got a good chance of making you better, but it's got these side effects and they're terrible side effects. And they give a placebo and they give the actual drug. And the placebo people get the side effects because they've been told about the side effects. Right. So the body responds. This is fascinating stuff. The whole immune response, the neurological response, the DNA, everything responds based on the level of belief we have in it. So what is one of the most powerful, one of the most powerful stimulants of belief? Would you guess? I'll tell you, it's a physical object. Okay. I was, my first guess was going to be religion, a physical object that's called a white coat. Okay. Because I was actually thinking, you know, with what you just said, if I went to see a doctor and he said I had cancer and he said I had three days to live, I might be dead in three days. It's a white coat. It's no different than the witch doctors of Africa who pointed the bone at you and said you're going to die. Yeah. It's the level of belief in that white coat, right? That says it. Now that's why if you watch TV and you see it commercial, advertising some kind of medical thing, tile and all, you know, some whatever it is, you know, even an over-the-counter medical thing, the actor wears a doctor's lab coat and wears a stethoscope around his neck because that's a visual stimulus to tell you to believe in the subject, right? Because that's how powerful it is because it's been grained over years and years and years. Now when you think about that, you also want to question some things because doctors also told us, and I've got the papers on this, back in the late 50s, they told women to smoke during pregnancy because it will make the child a little smaller and make the birth easier, right? And doctors smoked during examinations, right? Right. So, you know, we've been trained to believe these guys and I'm not saying doctors are bad because they're not, but it's, you know, we have to question where do, what do we believe? Yeah. And how is it affecting the physical body? I think what you just said is really important because we take a whole bunch of stuff from granted, for granted because of our culture, because of our upbringing and everything else, and I think it's really important that we, we, we stop and we just think a little bit like why am I, because I remember listening to someone say, "Yeah, I want to see the doctor and I'm, I'm almost, I'm getting ready to get diabetes, you don't quite have it." Right. The doctor said, "Well, come back and see me in a month by then you should have diabetes and I can give you some drugs." It takes some preparation. Yeah. You come back when you're a little sicker, right? And that whole philosophy I think is a, is a dangerous one, right? Absolutely. I mean, I just, the DNA, the, the biological responses are all responding to their thoughts and the, and the emotions and more importantly the feelings that we are having on a constant basis. They are all constantly responding to that and we have to pay attention to those things because it changes the very cellular process of our body. See, here's the thing is that when you went to school and I went to school, if you did biology and you did cellular biology, which is part of normal high school, you do a little bit of that. You don't do too much, but you find it right? Yeah. Do a little bit of that. And what you were told was the intelligence of the cell is the nucleus, but that was the brain of the cell and what we know is that if you take the nucleus out, the cells of lives. Now, if I take your brain out, you're not going to do too well. No. Right? You're not likely to live forever. I don't want to do that to find out. Well, do a test. Right? In fact, if your brain stops working, they unplug you at the hospital. Yes. So if you take the nucleus out, you should die. Well, they don't, right? They don't. And the reason that they don't is because that's not the brain of the cell. The cell actually has all the systems of the body. It has a reproductive system. And it has a waste management system. Yeah. It has a fuel system. It has all the systems, it has a nervous system, it has all the systems that we have as a whole body. It's all contained in every cell. And the intelligence of the cell is not the nucleus. It is the membrane and it's the membrane because the membrane is the part that receives information. Okay. Right? It's how we receive the information. It's the membrane that's reacting to stress, environmental stress, emotional stress, chemical responses, all of that that's making the difference. And you can change what the membrane responds to by the way you think and the way you feel. Right? Now, if you look at most sicknesses, what are you going to find? It changes the cells. Right? So if it's changing, if a sickness is changing the cells, now we know that thoughts and emotions change the cells, feelings change the cells, then clearly there's a connection between how we think, how we emote, how we feel and the body's response to it. It's a fascinating subject. It is. It is. And we're only just getting into the understanding of it, but I guess we're about out of time. We're about out of time. Yeah. We'll have to revisit this again as you learn more. It's absolutely incredible. Well, let's hope we wet some people's appetite to at least consider that their body is not separate from their mind and all their feelings. And the key that I would always say to this is you're not going to get that with positive thinking. Now more than you're going to get healed by a pelt, it's how you believe and how you feel that are really, really important. That's where the key is. The thoughts are important, but it's the feelings that matter is the feelings that count because the feelings are connected to the belief systems. Awesome. So, Doug, has somebody wanted to know more about this topic or any of the other topics that you write about or talk about? Where could they go? You can go to, there's a couple of places you can go. If you want to go to my blog, you can go to my name, which is DovDov, B-A-R-O-N. Gonna look on that, it's all kinds of cool writing and understanding and expense on a lot of the subjects we cover in these podcasts. You can also go to my main site, which is Baron, B-A-R-O-N, Mastery, M-A-S-T-E-R-Y.com, baronmastery.com. That's our main site and you'll find all kinds of cool stuff on there, there's audios and videos and all kinds of neat stuff to read and you can find out about some of the programs that we run too. Awesome. So if you enjoyed this episode, you can get more at www.freemindmasterypodcast.com. 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