We're going to talk a little bit about George Harrison and how much he was practicing like eight hours a day because he didn't have the raw talent that Lennon had and McCartney had and in fact when he did the guitar gently weeps he'd actually taken lessons from Eric Clapton for two hours a day just so that he could actually get proficient. We of course were talking about mastery and when we were talking about that you reminded me of my son who's 19 at this right now and he's a jazz musician he loves to play the saxophone he loves to play the guitar and I've always got him tutoring and private lessons and stuff and I dropped him off with a jazz teacher and this teacher was someone who John's previous teacher said you know I've taught you everything I can you know it all in a good way and here's the next teacher that I think you should go to and in fact this teacher doesn't accept new students but I'm going to phone him and tell him like he really has to meet you and make room for you. Very cool. It really was interesting. How old was John the son right? He was. How old was John the son? Okay. So I took him off to the town where the suburb where this gentleman lived and met him and I said okay you know you guys can talk and of course the decision is totally up to John because he knows if the teacher is going to be a good teacher for him or not I am clueless right. I don't know anything about the guitar or jazz or anything and I said I'll come back in about an hour if that's where I'd see you and the teacher said certainly so I came back I was just expecting to pick John up and leave and John would tell me if you wanted to continue or not. Right. And I got to the door and the teacher said please come in I really have to talk to you and I thought you know it's almost like you know when you know you play when the dogs are sitting down. Right. We're not talking. Exactly. Like it was. So after. Okay you know so we went in and this teacher he took us to the back of his house and there's a recording studio in the back of his house. There's an office beside it that's full of musical paraphernalia so I mean this is someone who his life is music. Eat, sleep, breathe. Absolutely. You know you can tell he just is passionate and he loves it and he is just sitting on the edge of his seat almost shaking right and I'm thinking oh my goodness you know what's going on. He says you don't he says he starts telling me about my son right and I'm nodding like yes yes I'm calm I mean you know he's not telling me anything I don't know right. Right. So you don't understand. I don't understand what he says your son and I we were doing things on the guitar that the only people that can do these things on the guitar are people who have been practicing on their guitar for like five hours a day for like six months because the fingers need to be so tough to be able to and your son was doing this stuff like like he was going for a walk on the beach and he was just totally impressed right. So the next six to eight months he worked with John on his on his guitar yeah it was absolutely amazing I said and of course I knew that John was I mean I didn't realize this was significant right but I knew that he was doing this because John would sit after school and he would practice and play his guitar and everything else right beside me while I worked. So how long was John practicing how many hours a day on average. He was practicing probably probably around me four hours a day. To me to me that's fantastic because when you think about it I don't know too many people who at some point had school time when we were at high school who didn't want to be a rock star. Right. Right. We all wanted to be a rock star for whatever reason most of them were sexual reasons. We wanted to be you know we wanted the fame we wanted the fortune whatever it was and it's a concept you know the idea of the fame the idea of all those things that the girls are going to love are here a girl that you're going to be so famous and everybody's going to love you. You know whatever it is. Right. That's the difference between an idea and a passion. Yes. Like John your son had a passion he played for four hours it wasn't about fame it wasn't about fortune it was about his love for music. That's right. That's exactly what it is. I mean that's what I'm about when you've got that fire in your belly. Yeah. It's a lot different than an idea it's because I want to be famous. So what? Mm-hmm. For what? Well you want to be famous for all. I realize these are the days of Paris home where you can be famous for being famous. Right. There's not much substance to that. What do you want to be famous for all because the fame is actually a byproduct of you expressing your own fire. That's right. You know that's what you're talking about with your son. I just think that's so great and we had an experience I was just telling you before we went on the air last night of going to a concert. A piano recital and it was a Paralympic piano recital. I almost can't say it right. So the two. When you told me that name Paralympic piano recital I'm thinking it's me and I've got a bizarre body sense of you but I'm seeing a running track. Okay. And I'm seeing somebody pushing a piano around the track. Right. And I'm seeing them pushing it around the track and they're in a wheelchair. It's me. How do they play it? Well, they're playing. That's how you win. This is a weird business I'm going, mind it. I know. I had no idea what to expect. No, I'm sure. And we went to this hall at the university at concert hall at the university. There was about a hundred people there which was really cool. And two individuals got up and played two pieces of music or two sets of music. And it was classical piano music. It was beautiful. I wouldn't say that I am a classical clonsuar or anything like that. I didn't know the pieces but you didn't have to know the pieces to appreciate these two people that got up and played. And one was a young woman in her mid twenties probably maybe late twenties who looked like she was nine years old. If you saw her on the street you would say nine years old. And one arm was probably six inches longer than the other. In other words you could really tell her arms were not the same. She was blind and she was hard of hearing. Holy moly. So I don't understand how someone who's blind and hard of hearing can play the piano particularly with two arms that are and she's the height of a nine year old. I want to make sure everybody gets this picture. So this woman who is in her mid-late twenties is the height of a nine year old. So the sort of size of a nine year old child. That comes up to both your chest and mid-chest on some of these. She's got one arm that's considerably longer than the other. Another one that is retracted back and is a lot shorter than the other one. She's blind and she's hard of hearing. Okay. Not deaf but hard of hearing. Now that doesn't sound to me. It doesn't sound to me like the perfect combination of becoming a classical pianist. No. Not in the least. Yeah. And she played magnificence. Is that right? Oh. It just melted your heart to watch her. Yeah. And of course when she was done, everyone was just applauding like crazy, right? And she just, you could just tell she loved it, right? I mean she would be bowing and she had this beam, right? And I didn't realize at that point that she couldn't see, right? It was only after she had gotten off in it because I didn't read the program until after she was in it. And I'm reading all these things and telling you after, because I really thought she was a nine-year-old girl. Right? Amazing. Wow. And so, but obviously years and years and years of practice and study. But you know, again, that same thing, that fire in the belly that you feel a fire, you know, that souls on fire, it's so, when we actually did that, you know, most of us are saying, "Well, you know, I can't do X because I'm too fat. I'm too thin. I'm too tall. I'm too short. I'm too old. I'm too young. I'm not educated. Now, if I'm over-educated, you know, when you really think about those kind of lame-ass excuses we use, right, and you listen to what this woman has accomplished and who she is, it's like, get over it, man. That's right. Get over whatever crap you're telling yourself about why you can't do it. If some woman is built like a nine-year-old child with one arm longer than the other, and who is blind and partially deaf, can play beautiful classical music in a concert hall, it is time for you to get off your excuses and set your butt on fire and go for what it is you want. No matter what, it doesn't matter about the economy. It doesn't matter about your age, your weight, your height, your color. All those are so insignificant by comparison and it's not too compared to this person, but it's so your recognition about what is possible, get in times when that fire. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. And the thing is, too, is once you do that, your whole life changes because I think, when -- because I look at my son, John, and, you know, his teenage kid, he, you know, sometimes he'll turn to me, you know, "I'm doing okay, Dad, you know, he needs a reassurance, anything else." He is an incredibly confident kid because he's very, very good at something and he knows it. Yeah. And I think that if we were all worked at being very, very good at that one thing that we really, really love, instead of, you know, watching the symptoms and reruns every day, right, then -- because it's always time to do it, you know, when you look at what you're doing in your life, if you really looked at it, there's time, you know, there's a lot of wasted time. Well, you know, the thing is that, particularly in our society and where we are today, the most common excuses I don't have time. Yeah. Right? I mean, I don't have money is right up there, too, but I don't have time is huge because we are busier than we've ever been, we've got more distractions than we've ever gotten. And I'll tell you a really great example of this. I believe you know, Scott, and maybe some of our listeners know that every few years I run a program called Deep, and Deep has a free requisite program to it, in that you have to go through these modules, and the modules take a lot of homework, and you have to send in the homework to apply for the program. Right. You can't write a check, you have to apply, and you go through a whole qualification process to do that, and there's home assignments, and over the home assignments, there are three modules, and I think it's 74 questions that are not, yes, no questions, you know, they will need at least a good paragraph, and probably some of them need several pages. You know, there's a lot of working, well, digging, and it's not just even writing from your head, you're going to mostly be present, it's a lot of work, and one of the ladies who qualified, who actually attended Deep, is a young mom who has two very young children, like one is under a year, and the other one is under five years old. So you know, these are attention-grabbing children, and she said to me at the program, she said, she's also been a yoga teacher, and she said, you know, I told myself I don't have time for yoga now that I have the kids, she goes, but you know, even if I didn't get through this program, if I didn't qualify, she goes, the prerequisites taught me something, and I said, well, she says, I made time, it mattered that much, she said I was spending six hours a day, some days, working on the pre-qualifying program to get into Deep, she goes, and I couldn't make half an hour to do yoga, she goes, I now get it, of what you said to me, it's not discipline, it's not time, it's importance, she goes, I made it, is that important, I had to get in, my husband says, you have to get into this, you've got to go deal with your stuff, and she said, I made that, I had a nice husband, she said, well, yes, it's amazing guy, because he was committed to her growth, absolutely, right? But you know, some people say, you know, I want to be a rockstar, but I don't have time to practice, and meanwhile, John plays four hours a day, rather than watching reruns of The Simpsons. He's a great day student. And he's a great day student. He graduated from high school after grade 11, instead of 12, and he did two years cap college, when most people would only have had one year done. Right, and I'll bet, it's not because he's a genius, it's not about being a genius, you know, I'm sure as the proud dad, what's on cover, but you know what I mean, but what you're talking about is not what I describe as genius, what you're talking about, is commitment, dedication to your passion, commitment to the passion, mastery of what you choose, mastery of what you choose, which means practice, not for proficiency, but beyond, but for love, but for love. I was doing, he would get in the flow, and he would just get into amazing states, and he just loved the way it felt when he was playing. And we've got to stop and ask ourselves, and get, actually, as you listen to this, stop and ask yourself, where do you sell out, where do you sell yourself out to the busyness of life, where do you sell yourself out to the obligation duties, where do you sell yourself out to the opinions of others, where do you sell yourself out instead of saying, no, this is, this is a piece of me, this is, you know, one of the things that's really important to realize is this, you didn't get your hopes and you didn't get your dreams by mistake, they're yours, that's right, you're soul-craying out for expression, and you must listen because our salary is clearly the ego screams, but the soul only whispers, and if you don't listen to those whispers, you die empty, listen to the whispers, and if you listen to the whispers, you'll have to listen to the whispers when everybody else is screaming, and still practice, and practice, and then when you finish practicing, you'll practice some more, and even now a quarter of a century of teaching, it'll be this coming April, I've been teaching 25 years, I'm still taking the programs, I still learn, I'm still practicing, I now, you know, after all the years, I have a vocal coach, this means to me, why I have a vocal coach, I've even been speaking all these years, because I want my voice to be better, and my projection to be better, I want to do what I do even better, I went to speak a training three times over the last ten years, to train with, speak a trainers, who I end up, partially teaching pieces of the course with the teacher, and I'm in a good time doing it, because I'm good at what I do, so what, practice again, and again, and again, it's fascinating, it really is. So thanks for joining us everybody, head over to baronmastery.com, B-A-R-O-N-M-A-S-T-E-R-Y .com, to learn more about amazing programs, there's ebooks, and articles, and videos, and audios, and all sorts of material there, and we'll see you next time, and by the way, leave us your comments, we'd like to hear from you, we want to hear from you, and actually if you go to dovebaron.potometic.com, I believe you can subscribe, you can subscribe to the podcast, it'll download automatically onto your iTunes, you can leave comments, and any questions you've got, we love to have them, because we'd like to talk about what's of interest to you, and remember what Scott said, that he read and learned, it takes a thousand hours, plus a thousand hours, plus another thousand hours for mastery in writing coffee, so if you need coffee, you can't take Scott home, oh thanks though, see you next time everybody, bye bye, bye bye. 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