Brad's movie education continues this week as he discusses the Coen Brothers remake of the 1969 western classic "True Grit" with Keith and Ben.
The Movies & A Meal Podcast
True Grit (2010)
- Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Movies in the Meal, a podcast where we talk about movies and other things while we eat, I'm your co-host Ben, and as always, I'm joined by Keith. - Hey. - And Ben, what's up? - Back in the classroom, one more time, so we are going to talk about... - Yes, who's back. - Yes. - Back again. - So we're going to talk about True Grit. This is the 2010 remake of the 1969 movie starring John Wayne. You know, John Wayne won an Oscar for this movie, but this one in 2010 was done by the Cohen Brothers. It has its own All-Star cast and its own Oscar winners, Jeff Bridges in this movie, and then you also have folks like... Hey, Lise Steinfeld in her, basically her debut, and who's become, you know, a pretty solid actress in her own right now. She got an Oscar nomination for this, Josh Brolin, Matt Damon's in this movie, and a couple of cameos from people. This is a Keith movie. He picked this version specifically, but before anybody else talks about it, Brad, you want to do the summary real quick? - Sure thing. - Summary, always, courtesy of IMDb. A stubborn teenager enlisted the help of a tough U.S. marshal to track down her father's murderer. Brad and I were talking about this earlier about remakes. We're talking about songs, but like, you know, remakes better, and sometimes they're not. Sometimes we're like, "Why the hell was this remade?" This is actually one of the examples of just like, they improved on everything, and I think it's a great movie. It's incredibly watchable. I thought all the leads were great. It's amazing after the fact that, again, this is Haley Steinfeld's first role. I think she was 12 or 13 when she filmed it, and she just brings it. Jeff Bridges brushed off an Oscar for Lonely Heart, or I think that's what it's called, but he just won an Oscar. Great, Matt Damon, also great, Barry Pepper, and some of the supporting guests. Josh Brolin, also great. Let's kick it to Brad first. So Brad, what do you think of this movie? I enjoyed this movie thoroughly. It's a great movie. I like the grittiness of it, which like, we're the trick. The trick? Yeah, it's just, when you compare the original with this version, this version just seems like it's better, like we've decided, it's better in most, if not always. This movie is dirty, it's grimy, the set pieces are dirty, they're grimy, the town is looks like it's seeing better days, like in the original it's like bright and cherry, and it's like, there's stage, the original one, you can tell, it's all staged, you look like filmed in the back lot. And this one, you know, to your point, it looks like what you would imagine a Western town in, I guess, the late 19th century would be so. Now, they're in Arkansas, correct? Yes. Yeah, I kind of thought they were in Arkansas. I should've looked it up, but I thought they were in Arkansas, the way they were talking. But Jeff Bridges is a shoe and has roots to conquer. He's a drunkard for a pension of unnecessary violence, and I think Bridges shows it extremely well. His bobbing with Maddie Ross, who, like you said, Haley Steinfeld, I think that's also very well done, and at times I think he's even better than John Wayne than some of his performances. I think he's more personable than John Wayne, like John Wayne is basically like your stereotypical macho man who basically can take shots and just run right through him and everything. It's like, you see Bridges, the Bridges performance shows Cottonburn is more of a person, like he's got faults, like I think him talking about his ex-wife and his kid and all that, I think, really, and Wayne did it too, but it just seemed like this one was, Bridges just added a little more personality to it. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion. So, Keith, you picked this movie, obviously, you have a good opinion on the show. You know, I picked it, I think when we were spitball on ideas, I believe you picked no country for old men, and I said, you know, "Why not True Grip," and there was a logic to it. I like this movie even more than no country for old men. For me, even though it's a remake for sure, but it's really just an interpretation, and I haven't read the True Grit novel, but I've read a couple of Charles Port's novels, and this one has that dark, southern wit that was really lacking from the original. And you're right, it starts with the top. I'll give it to John Wayne because he won the Oscar, and he's John Wayne, he's a lot of fun, but Rooster is great here at Haley Steinfeld. The fact that she adapted to, you know, it's almost a thoroughly modern appeal to this movie, but it still has that traditional, you know, aspect too, and it's a real tight rep they walk that the Coen's really nailed, and she in particular. And also, has often met Damon as Mr. Labif. You know, we were talking right beforehand that Glenn Campbell is really terrible. He's the original. In the original, yeah, Labif. But that Damon really plays the Texas Ranger with a perfect mix of being a cad, and he comes through in the end almost as much as Rooster. Those three were great, and you know, hats off to Barry Pepper. One of the things that made this movie stand out from the original, many things, was the cinematography throughout Eroja Deacon's is fantastic legend. Yeah, we'll get into that shootout, which is pretty good in the original movie, but that horseback shootout in the remake is sensational. In the moment when Barry Pepper turns around on his horse and looks back, I don't think I was directly before this shootout, but that whole stretch is fantastic. So, you know, performances throughout dialogue and the way it was shot, this is to me just a perfect Coen brother's movie. I appreciate about this. It's like, unlike most Coen brothers movie, it's probably the least cynical Coen brothers movie. I mean, it's as sweet as it can be, really, you know, because there's a difference, we'll talk about that maybe later, like, you know, there's a slight difference in the ending here. The original one is a little bit more saccharin, and this one was a little bit more bittersweet. You know, like Keith said, it's, you know, it's surprisingly funny. You know, those are the moments that the original kind of lacks some ways, kind of that dark humor in places where you probably shouldn't laugh, but it's just like everyone is working in concert, and it's great. I mean, basically the humor in the original is basically when John Wayne's Conburn's basically running somebody down. That's basically the humor in the original. So, and this one's got a lot of moments. I told Ben one woman in particular is when they're first going into the Native American territory, and they walk into the house, and there's these two kids that have got a donkey tied up, and they cut the donkey off, and bridges, Codburn basically just kicks the kids, just push the kids down, and then when he leaves, their kids are sitting on the banister, and he pushes one off the banister, I just laughed at that. I guess. I'm pushing a little bit, but I'm with you all that too. Because they were like kind of torturing the donkey a little bit? It also gets to rooster's a bit of a jerk. He's a bit of a racist. It's not his time. Yeah. And you don't want to laugh, but it kind of fits that razor's age. Yeah. It does. It's kind of going to the cones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuhr doesn't go in the dark places like, say, Fargo. No. No. There's still a good natureness to that. You know, I think there's a debate where, you know, LaBeef and Codburn are kind of arching and trying to see who's the better shot and like that, I thought was like really funny. And you know, he's just, I don't know, but I guess that there's just sweetness to this. And this is in both movies like the way he takes like Maddie and him take to each other very quickly and like you see, you know, Maddie kind of like takes to him like a surrogate father and like, you know, I mean, despite the fact that Codburn is kind of a, is a drunker and a joke or a, well, kind of a joke, but also a jerk, you know, he's very protective of her. And then the beef comes around to, I think that was a, that was, that was nice. So someone who else is just like, I don't, he's kind of a creep when they first meet LaBeef and Maddie and, but he comes, he comes around. They all, they all do it. Yeah. So getting the scenes, if one of those side by side that are remarkably better, the dialogue between Maddie and Colonel Stonehill, when she's, that barbing over the horses is pretty good, the original, but the, the, the Haley Steinfeld, when she's a bargaining with Colonel Stonehill and like it's taken Matthews, who always loved it. There's a lot of TV, he was in Gilmore Girls, but that scene is remarkably better and it's incredibly witty. That's the other joke too, when she comes back to buy the horse and the other talking and he's like, Oh no, are we bargaining again? Like he can't, he can't do it again because she's just like, she's just out winning him and she's relentless. Yeah. And that's why I like about Steinfall's performance is Maddie Ross. I mean, she's, no nonsense, she's doggedness and she's just stubborn. She's just pure stubborn. And I think it's wonderful. And she's got the intelligence to back it up. She's wise beyond her years, but this is very minor issue. I have very minor. I have a nitpick that you all probably poo poo, but this ain't it. We'll see. Well, you might poo poo this one, but she's wise beyond her years, but it's almost like she's not as naive as she should be as a as a child, as a teenager, I think. I mean, it's, she doesn't have, she has some, I think the first scene where she's around the campfire and she wants to tell the, the stories as the beef and rooster arguing. I think that shows her child like nature, but other than Matt, I think she's almost too adult, which is weird to say and you can argue and I would agree if you want to argue me on this one. And for me, it's almost like she's a little too wise, which is weird. But also, Ben is mentioned, because I think I might have said this before, Ben's also mentioned, she's basically like the second parent because, cause the wife, her mother was, was a little, she's not, she's not educated. Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, my mom is not very educated. So she's got her hands full with the other kids and like, you know, just dealing with the fact that her husband got. Yeah. I mean, she's the bookkeeper. I mean, that's, that's, I think that's her nickname, right? Bookkeeper. So, I mean, and it's weird because you're like, that's, that's an interesting nickname. And the first movie you actually like see it, like, which is, I think that's why I like the, like the, the, the Cohen version better, which is weird for coming from me because I usually like everything spelled out, but I think like it's saved like 10 minutes of the movie. And I think that's, they did a great job with that to keep it shorter actually. So, but, but I still love Steinfeld's performance. Just sometimes I think she's too adult, but I mean, go ahead. My argument was, what you said before is that, you know, she has to be kind of the second in command. Also, you know, think about the time period, 13 years old, like you, you're already probably starting to think about a family. I mean, like people grew up real quick back then. So, I mean, there's, there wasn't anything we sheltered, but like, what'd you say Keith? Plus, as a combo of, you know, of the period and modern, she has a lot of bravado. It's not really mature, it's, and not just, it's a maturity, but bravado that teachers have today and probably more than they did then, it's, I won't say he's on an act, but it makes her a more interesting character. Yeah. You know, speaking of Gilmore girls, she's channeling a little Rory Gilmore a little bit, but it's kind of just like, that's how smart she is, like any problem that the adults are just like, well, you can't do that, well, she can figure a way around it. And sometimes she just like screw it, you know, like that scene when the beef and copper are trying to ditch her across the river, and she's just like, it's, you know, that's, wait, was that an original or what's that? And how she got away, right, where she's like, where she's like, can you look at my hat real quick and then she slaps it, or is that an original? She just like, she just, and the original, she just like, screw it, like I take my horse across the river, you know, there's so many ways that the, you know, the original has some charms, but I will say one way this would be greatly improves on the original is the structure. We don't need to see total spoilers here. We do not need to see Frank Ross die at the beginning because it's a total gut punch. You know, when Josh Brolin's Tom Cheney arrives, it's good in the original, but it's almost like a jump scare moment in the, in the, in the, in the remake. That's right. That's a mystery because we've never really seen Tom Cheney, and like I said, you actually say, I said 10 minutes, it's actually 13 minutes, so again, it saves 13 minutes in that, basically because you cut out the death of the death of the father, her actually showing her as a bookkeeper, like the first like maybe five, the seven minutes is like basically in house, her as a bookkeeper, they're showing what her dad does, they show a little bit of Tom Cheney, and then they, they show like the bar scene where he gets shot and all that. Maddy has to be like, I don't trust that Tom Cheney. Yeah. Like it's two on the nose. It's two on the nose. And that's why I love about this one where it's like, you basically, you basically know from the top where I'm like, it's basically just explained to you in words. It's like, oh yeah, he shot my dad. I want my, one of his stuff back that he stole from me. And it's like, it's, you don't need to see him steal the stuff or shoot his dad or show the connection. So I think that's probably just a reflection of modern filmmaking and the fact that, you know, the con brothers understand that you don't need to spell it out. Like people can, people are paying attention to that. If you just let it go in a conversation, then you can do that. So, um, so Brad, you know, you said you like this movie. So what was the scene that you're like, okay, I mean, actually it's probably the bargaining scene that keeps that. Like I really like that bargaining scene and it's, it's fast paced, it's very wordy, but I think it just shows the interplay between the two. And then if it wasn't that, it was the introduction of Rooster Cogburn. So I mean, it's just like him sitting in the courtroom and it's just like, he's like, I might have been that way or he might have been that way or, I don't recall, it's like he pulled the act. Well, he might have pulled the act, but it's like, it's, I really love that performance. And like I said, John Wayne won an Oscar for it and he does a real good job with it. I think Bridges, like I said, it takes a different take on it and it's very Oscar worthy. And I think like it's also like it shows more vulnerability in Rooster Cogburn, which you almost couldn't do with a John Wayne character and back in that time. Yeah. They set him up pretty good. You know, you mentioned the courtroom scene, but we get teased in the beginning because, you know, she tracks them down, he's in the outhouse and she's like, she's like, you know, he's like, what do you want? I'm in the outhouse. She's like, well, you've been there a long time. It's like, you can't tell me how long I need to be, you know, that's a great, so. So those two scenes have probably definitely got me, but especially in the beginning. So even the beginning where they show like the actual town, it's just like, just the grindiness of it, you see the grindiness of the lighting and the buildings and all that. And you know, you're getting into a movie that's going to be very, oh, I don't try to think the right word here, but it's definitely a movie where you know it's not going to be pretty. You know, it's not going to be pretty. You know, it's a story of, you find out it's a story of revenge. It's they're out in the wilderness. It's like, and the way the movie ends too is not pretty. I mean, it's just, it's going to be a downright nasty movie and I think they do a good job filming that. I think just the just the just the shot of the town definitely brought that on. Yeah. And the ending itself, you know, assistance were there. If there's word that describes me for me to be a little lofty is kind of elegiac and the ending when we see Maddie still alive, totally defiant. I love, I love defiant Maddie. And instead of if we go to her father's grave, we find out second hand that rooster is dead and she and she just accepts it and she moves on. But you know, it's very quiet, very dignified moment. And one thing along with the ending that really carries this woman from me through the end is the music. Common Brothers music is a signature for them, but this might be their best score of all. And the weirdest thing about it is, it's really only one song. If you listen to it throughout, it's it's variations on the theme. I believe it's called the him, sorry, I believe it's called leaning and on your everlasting arms. I believe it's called. It's pretty much that throughout. And then you get to the credits and ours to men, who's always my favorite, sings it and it just makes me smile every time. So that's, you know, if there's an overall quality of this movie, that's what it is for me. I was a little surprised that the ending of the common brothers one is different than the original and the fact that the beef lives in this and it kind of begins to end on a happy note, it's like everyone got okay, like, okay, Maddie lost her arm, but the beef lives what she doesn't in the original. I think that's part of the reason it's probably the director who didn't, like, go in Campbell and that one. Yeah. It just feels like it's just like screw it, we're going to kill him. And none of this. Yeah. Because it's going to be a lazy fun, you know what I mean? The ending in the original is just kind of of its time, but just like, let's give him a happy ending. Let's give him one more scene with John Wayne and the woman who played Maddie Ross and, you know, John Wayne can literally write off in a sunset like he always does. And, you know, this one, it's, it's more realistic of just like, you know, you spend some time with people, you lose touch with them. And then, you know, it's like real life and just suddenly one day you find out they've passed away before you got to talk to him again. Before I get talking about how the ending scenes or whatever, when she finally meets the two, I guess, owners of the, of the, um, the traveling show or whatever. And she, and the one stands up talks to her and the other one sits down and she talks nice to the one. And she basically just calls the other one a yellow bay, a belly pig or something. He's trash. I love that. I love that. That was pure. Was there a reason behind her? Because it's just, it's, it's etiquette. Yeah. That, that. Stand away. It's her sense of decency. You know? That's why I was thinking disrespect. Yeah. That's why I was thinking. But I just wanted to make sure I was right. I was like, yeah. Is the only reason she's calling about because she didn't stand. I was like, that's what I was wondering. She has a unique view of the world and she knows she has her own standards and her standards is be civil in a way. So I just wanted to make sure, but I really love how they handled basically from when Maddie killed Chaney because in the original, Cogburn's the one who kills, in the original movie, Cogburn's the one who kills Chaney. And I mean, it's, it's John Wayne. John Wayne's probably got to get the final, final set. So, but I really love how Maddie gets the revenge, then falls down into the pit and I really love that scene because it's also foreshadowed earlier in the movie when they, when, when they're laying down and Cogburn's setting up a little rope around there and he's basically talking about how snakes want one, anything about big as you because it's talking about that. And, and just the scene where she basically comes face to face with the snake. She gets down and we're big spoilers here, gets bit by the route snake, she rides down there and she adores that horse about no other and John Wayne, or sorry, Jeff Bridges basically just pushing that horse as hard as he can and then the horse gives out and he shoots the horse instead of, in the original, it's like he hops on a stagecoach, it's like he hops on like somebody else's like borrowed horses. To get there, I get there in time, like in this one, he's like, he shoots the horse and then he basically just walks the rest of the way. I mean, it's, it's more, and you find out she loses the arm like in the original, it's like, she has a sling on her arm, she looks like she keeps her arm, I mean, it's, and so I think, I just love how the darkness of this movie is, is more apt to the time period than, than the John Wayne version because like you get bit by rattle snake back in that time, you're probably going to lose your arm if not your life. So I think, I really enjoyed that, I enjoyed how heartbroken she was about the horse, which I think was very well done. Well, that's a, that's the secret part about like, showing that she's a girl, you know? Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So, and, and at the end, I mean, that's what she kind of just turns into a little girl and like, you know, John, sorry, you got me doing it, like Jeff Bridges, like, rooster is the dad, just like, I will do anything, like, I don't care. The only thing is like, getting this girl to safety, I don't care about the horse, I don't care about anything else. And I guess it's symbolic too, if you want to go deeper, I mean, when you're talking about revenge, right? They always say, if you want revenge, you know, dig two graves and she fell on the whole, she fell on the grave. And the consequence of her revenge, even how righteous as it is, like, she didn't get away Scott free. I mean, she saw people getting killed in some terrible ways, got him, saw a man's finger and then chopped off and, you know, she suffered physically a little bit too, you know, it's not, it wasn't, it wasn't a, it wasn't clean, it wasn't, yeah, it shows where revenge does. I mean, he lost, lost her horse, lost her arm and lost her innocence, so that's a cost of revenge. That whole end stretch is better. Yeah. And there's a reason that the signature shot of True Gritte is the horse, right, right, right through the evening sky. That whole stretch between, between that, has so much more urgency than the original. It's just outstanding. Well, we're talking, you know, Brad, you mentioned about the sets and stuff, you know, I also noticed watching again, the limitations I get for the 1969 filmmaking is that a lot of the scenes in the 2010 one, like when they first encounter a moon and the other guy and that first shoot out where the beef gets hurt, a lot of it shot at night where the, the John Wayne version, it's all daytime, maybe because they just, they didn't have the set up back and do it. I mean, they tried to do nighttime, but even at nighttime, it looked like, it looked like it was like dusk the whole time, so. But, I mean, to be clear, I don't, I don't hate the original. No, it's just, it's a perfectly fine movie, I mean, it's just like, I was thinking about it. I mean, it's, you know, it's just like, if I had to grade the original, I'd probably give it like maybe a three and a half. I mean, it's three and a half, maybe four. Wow, I mean, it's just, it's a good movie, it's just, it doesn't live up to this one. So, I mean, it's, I mean, this, this one is just, it's, it's more of what it would be in the night in the 1800s. I mean, it's basically, I mean, it's just like, you know, it's comparing it like driving a like a Ford F-150 from the 1980s to one that's now the Ford, the one of the 80s did the job at the time, but now, you know, we have technology, things are a little bit smoother, and you know, that's the, and we've learned from the movie, we've learned from the, from the earlier version. So, I want to mention briefly, I know you all have, I really love the supporting cast too. Matt Damon as the beef is great. I just, just his tails, his tails are interesting, just that and just con burns, bickering with him was great. Francis and Damon did a great job with that. I think it was more, it was more natural than the Campbell John Wayne dynamic than the original Barry Pepper. I love him as lucky net pepperates, it's awesome, I think it's leader of the crew, but you know, he won't sacrifice himself, so I think I was good. And Brolin is, Tom Chaney is good too, I mean, it's just, he's, I think he's more whiny in this version, like his woe is me attitude, and I think, I think it works for this one. I think original Tom Chaney is a little bit whiny, but though I, you know, the, the key scene when he and Matty finally run into each other in the 2010 version, I kind of like it, because like Brolin is just genuinely amused, like he doesn't, it's like he's not even making the connection that this woman, like randomly this woman is here, that maybe she's out to, to get him for killing his father, so he's just like, what are you doing here? That's kind of like when you just run into somebody that grows, you're like, oh, what do you, what do you, and she pulls the guy, they're like in both scene, in both, both movies they do, yeah, both movies they do, but he's like, he need to pull back a little further. They're both very dismissive, I just thought that the Brolin version is just better, just like, you shot me, like it's more, I guess, whoever the actor was who played the original Tom Chaney, he's just a little, little gruffer, he's just like, why, why, whatever. Yeah, I kind of like that, to both things, the guy in the original was funny, and it had, it was a little more pathetic, but yeah, they were both good, by the way, bank crazy heart, that was the bridge's crazy heart, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I really love this, now I want to get to my nitpick, okay, this is number two, of course, well, if you want to call it, the first one I think is just like a minor quid, this is my nitpick, and this also might show Maddie's childish nature's or qualities or her being an actual child, but in my opinion, when you're staring down a rattlesnake, the one thing you don't want to do is slap it with your hand, it's just instinct, you know, I think about all the time, like, you know, something's on fire or something like that, some people just grab it, right, they don't read about it, so I mean, I'll let it slide, because I mean, it's, it shows, it shows the childish nature, I think like in the first one, like she had, in the original, like she has something she's slapping it with, or am I mixing it up, I can't remember which, like, one of them she has an item where she's slapping it with, the other one she's slapping it with her hand, I think in the original one, she might have like a stick or something, yeah, and the other one she's slapping it with her hand, and it's just, I understand, I understand, I understand, it's just, even as a kid, I understood, you probably don't want to antagonize animals that can hurt you, so, I mean, she just fell down in her defense, she just fell down a hole, she, she just killed the man, she just killed a man, she just killed a man who murdered her father, yeah, you know, she was kidding now, I mean, like, give her, give her a break, Brad, she's going through some stuff, and that's your nitpick, you obviously love this movie, no, I do love this movie, so, I like to say, it's something, it's very minor, so, Brad, what are you gonna, what are you gonna give it, I'm gonna give it 4 1/2 out of 5, okay, wow, I'd really love this movie, there's not much negative I can get to this, it is definitely a, a very great movie, I've really enjoyed this, so, we're on a roll man, 2 picks in a row, 4 1/2, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, this is top tier, I wasn't sure you get into the coins, this is their most accessible, but yeah, like Ben, I'm thrilled, yeah, well you, well, and you're in a fancy, one of the other highest rated movies is No Country Fold, yeah, and I really enjoyed that one too, as much different, they're both westerns, but obviously this one's a lot more like hopeful, and it's like more, you're more definition of a western, like 1800, yeah, yeah, we should take a gap, but you know, I would be okay with adapting the coins, as our drop in signature kind of Brad education things, they did so many different kinds of movies, yeah, far ago, I mean we mentioned far ago, there's Hustler Proxie's a big movie, but they're not their best, but really fun, or what's the, what's the one with Oscar Isaac, where's his singer? Oh, Lou, I love Davis, yeah, yeah, that's, that's not one of my favorites, but it's not terrible, but there's also like Raising Arizona with Nicolas Cage, there's a bunch. And you know, I'm not sure that all of them are working together again, they're, they're, I'm not saying there's a permanent beat, but they're on hiatus, so it's a good time to celebrate them, hopefully we'll look at that together. And I forgot, and you already like a called Brothers Movie, oh brother we're out there, that's where we're at, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so we got that out of the way, I guess it's time for me to channel Brad, and let's do some Rotten Tomatoes, correct, right? Yeah, so Brandon Wilkins, would you like to go first? Sure, critics is gonna be high, no doubt, I'm gonna say 90, whoo, whoo, 90, I'm gonna say 94, because people can be dummies sometimes. For audience, I'm gonna say 90% even. All playable prices, right, but also I just adore this movie, I'll go 96% on the critics, and 85% on the fans, still the Coen Brothers Movie, I don't think it'll be universally embraced. Not only that, but I think like people are gonna like, you're gonna have some older people who are like the originals all over the internet and blah, blah, blah, blah, and they'll just hate for hating sake, so. Well, Keith, you nailed audience, 85%, and you guys just missed a mark, 95% for audience, like for critics. I just know you nailed it, because you know, you know, critics consensus, girded by strong performances by Jeff Bridges, Matt Damon, and newcomer Hailey Snidefeld, and lifted by some of the Coen's most finely tuned, unaffected work, Drew Grit is a worthy companion to the Charles Portis book. I think it nailed it. Yep, yeah, so. Brad, you got a couple of trivia things. I got accolades in trivia, this movie made $252.3 million of on a budget of $35 to $38 million. It was nominated for 10 Academy Awards, eight BAFTA's, and zero Golden Globes, which I think was. Yeah, so. Did win any awards unfortunately. Yeah, yeah. The loan and win came as best cinematography in the BAFTA's, so. Yeah, so the 10 Oscar nominations were for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Leading Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Cinematography, Best Production Design, Best Costume Design, Best Sound Mixing, and Best Sound Editing. That's always one thing that surprised me, and there's no like official minutes saying, but you know, like Hailey Snidefeld was a supporting actress when she's the main person. Yeah, you might be hearing something about that on the trivia. I meant to look up the Oscar nominees at that year, but I didn't didn't do that. It was a pretty stackless, but you know, what an interest of time at least won't you want to do that. I can look up the Oscar nominees while you're doing your trivia. Well, trivia, despite Matt Eross having the most screen time and being considered a protagonist, Hailey Steinfeld was nominated for Best Supporting Actress in many award shows. Because of child labor laws, the Coen brothers were unable to film any scenes past midnight with Steinfeld, and because of scheduling problems, any time there is a shot of another character over Maddie's shoulder or back, Maddie is played by an adult double, not Steinfeld. 15,000 girls applied for the role of young Maddie Ross, the part going to 13 year old Steinfeld and her theatrical debut. Jeff Bridges said that the first piece of direction the Coen's gave him was to forget about the John Wayne version. Their movie would be a return to the 1968 source material by the original author, Charles Portis. As of 2019, this movie is the most profitable at the box office among those directed by the Coen brothers being the first of their films to gross over $100 million in the United States. No, I have a few more. Steinfeld was cast as Maddie Ross because out of all the kids who auditioned, she was the only one able to handle the sophisticated script. This film was the final DVD ever mailed by Netflix before the operation was shuttered in September 2023. In order to get the most efficient voice after biting his tongue, Matt Damon tied a hair tie around his tongue to talk as if he had no tongue. Last note, body count on this movie? 14. Alright so it lost, it deserved recognition. It was a pretty stacked awards nominee thing that year. Best Picture, King's Speech won, also nominated for Best Picture, Black Swan, The Fighter, Inception, The Kids Are All Right, 127 Hours, Social Network, Toy Story 3, True Grip, Winners Bone, Best Director, Winner, Tom Hooper for King's Speech, also nominated Darren Onofsky, David O'Ruslow, David Fincher, Joe Ian Coen. Best Actor that year, Colin Firth for the King's Speech, also nominated, Javier Bardem, Jeff Bridges, Jeff Eisenberg, James Franco, Best Actress that year, Natalie Portman won, also nominated, Nat Benning, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Lawrence, Michelle Williams, Best Supporting Actor, Christian Bale won that year, Jeremy Renner and John Hawks were also nominated, as well as Mark Ruffalo and Jeffrey Rush and Supporting Actress where Hayley Steinfeld was nominated, Melissa Lio won for The Fighter, Amy Adams from The Fighter was also nominated, Helen Obama Carter for the King's Speech and then Jackie Weaver for Animal Kingdom, so yeah, they're all deserving, so yeah. I would have voted for True Here for Best Picture but that's a heck of a lineup. Alright, alright, so I don't know, is there anything else you want to say? No, great movie. Okay, so another hit for Brad, it's okay. So let's wrap this episode up so Keith, give us a plug. 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