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Women Who Travel the World

From writers and authors to innkeepers and pet sitters, travel advisors and destination experts, this Big Blend Radio "Women Making History" Podcast Panel Discussion focuses on Women Who Travel the World.


FEATURED GUESTS:

* Innkeeper Karen Wilson: https://www.lion-rose.com/ 

* Innkeeper Tiffany Bertram: https://www.tiffanysbedandbreakfast.com/ 

* Pet sitter Angela Laws: https://www.trustedhousesitters.com/ 

* Travel advisor Cheryl Ogle: https://heywannago.com/ 

* Writer & Editor Eva Eldridge: https://evaeldridge.com/ 

* K. Nicole Connell of Natchitoches Tourism: https://natchitoches.com/ 

* Travel writer and author Linda Ballou: https://lostangeladventures.com/ 

* Travel writer & phographer Jo Clark: https://www.haveglasswilltravel.com/ 

* Travel writer & photographer Sharon Kurtz: https://sharonkkurtz.com/ 

* Food, wine and travel writer Dr. Diane Dobry: https://gettinghungary.com/ 

* Travel writer and author Kathleen Walls: https://americanroads.net/ 


Big Blend Radio's "Women Making History" podcast is hosted and produced by Nancy J. Reid and Lisa D. Smith, the mother-daughter publishing team behind Big Blend Magazines, and full-time travelers on the Love Your Parks Tour. Episodes are daily with a monthly panel discussion every 4th Wednesday. Follow the show here: https://women-making-history.podbean.com/ 



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Duration:
1h 16m
Broadcast on:
26 Jun 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

Welcome to Big Blend Radio where we celebrate variety and how it adds spice to quality of life. Welcome everybody. Today is our second Big Blend Radio, Women Making History podcast panel discussion. Now the Women Making History podcast celebrates women of the past, women of the present, women of the future. We cover everything, everything from health and parenting to travel to food to women who were entrepreneurs of the past and again the present and coming up in the future. So we cover a little bit of everything and some of our shows, because it airs every day, are some of our archives from the World Big Blend radio episodes that we feel are evergreen and there's always something to learn from. And then also we do these panels every fourth Wednesday. They air at 12 p.m. Pacific time, 3 p.m. Eastern time. So today we're talking about traveling women. We're talking with women who travel and we're going to talk about travel advice, destinations, all kinds of good stuff in the world of travel, especially when it's summer and it is that season. So we're going to get started. I'm going to do the introductions and then we're going to get knee deep and some fun questions. I'm going to start off with innkeeper Karen Wilson, her and her husband Steve own and run the lion and the rose bed and breakfast, a beautiful Victorian B&B. In the heart of Asheville's Montford Historic District, you can go to lion-rose.com and Karen and Steve have a podcast with us called Adventures in Asheville that we do every second, excuse me, every first Tuesday of the month. So welcome back Karen, how are you? I'm good, how about you? Doing good, doing good. And everyone, you can go to lion-rose.com, all the websites I tell you about on the show. All those links are listed in the episode notes. So speaking of inns, we're going to go over to Arkansas. We're going to take a little road trip, right? We're going to go from Asheville over to Hot Springs region in a town called Bismarck. It's a small little town, but it's a beautiful area out in the countryside, just a few minutes outside of Hot Springs and right next to lakes. If you want to go digging for diamonds, literally you can. So we're going to go to speak with Tiffany Bertram, her and her husband, Bob, own and run Tiffany's bed and breakfast on about what, 50, 60 acres out in the forest. So welcome back, Tiffany, how are you? Thank you, I'm good. Good to talk to you again. Good to have you back on. You can go to Tiffany's bed and breakfast.com to learn more. And then from Arkansas, we might as well keep it warm. Let's go to Nakadish, Louisiana. They all this settlement in the state. And you know, we keep going back to these places. We're talking about Nancy and I on our travels. And Nakadish is beautiful. It's known for being the filming location of Steel Magnolias and meat pies and good music and amazing people. So we're going to chat with Nicole Connell. Conell, see, I just change her name again. I do it all the time. She comes on our shows every third fourth. Is it? Was it third? It's every third Tuesday. Nicole is on the show talking about what you can experience in beautiful Nakadish, Louisiana. And you can go to their website, Nakadish.com. And that is spelled out as N-A-T-C-H-I-T-O-C-H-E-S dot com. So again, links in the episode notes. So welcome back, Nicole. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. You're getting quick on the spelling of Nakadish, I see. Well, I did. I was taught by a friend Kelly from Nakadish just to sing it like Mickey Mouse. Yes. That's how I do it. But it is a different name, right? Nakadish, you would expect it to be spelled N-A-C-K, you know, I-T-I-S-H kind of thing, but it's not. We've seen all the spellings. Yeah, yeah, it is. But it's definitely worth going to. And Nagadoches is just down the road too. And that is like the sister city, I was going to say, that is the oldest settlement in the state of Texas, and it's just down the road. So really cool to have the two of you. And I bet people go to the wrong place all the time. Oh, I thought I was going in to Louisiana and you ended up in Texas or vice versa. Well, we're going to fly over to Scotland now. We're all warm out here in America, but we're going to go to Scotland and bring Pet Sitter Angela Laws back on the show. Angela is also the community manager of trusted house sitters.com. And as many of you know, as Nancy and I travel full time, we also do a whole lot of pet sitting. And that's what allows us to do these podcasts and get to work and play with animals, which we love. So welcome back, Angela. How are you? Is she still there? Where did Angela go? She disappeared. Angela, mute yourself. I am so sorry. I'm sitting here and I'm coughing and I'm thinking I have to I have to view myself. So anyway, I'm off you. I'm well. Thank you, Lisa. Lovely to be here. And I would like some warmth in temperature from the United States. It's cold in Scotland. It's cold. Oh, you know, and you know, you were just in San Diego doing some pet sit. So that's going to be a little bit of a shock, right? Do the system. It's a shock in more ways than one. Oh, well, there you go. Everyone, I do want you to know that Angela also has our pet connection show with us. She's our cohost. And that airs every third Monday at noon Pacific time. So we've got some fabulous authors coming up. So stay tuned for that. And I want to go on to our next guest now. So we're going to go from Scotland and we're going to fly over to Texas. In fact, we have two ladies from Texas joining us. How cool is that? We're going to chat with Cheryl Ogle and Cheryl knows about trusted house sitters. In fact, I think that's how we met Cheryl. It is as Cheryl's a child advisor. Go to Hey, want to go.com. And she's on our show as well every third Wednesday. So welcome back. How are you, Cheryl? Thank you. It's great to be here. And listen, cake, that's the that's the password for Cheryl for anything. It's cake. That's that sounds funny, but it's true. Good to have you back. And we're going to go south of Cheryl, Cheryl's in Lubbock, Texas with home to Buddy Holly. We got to give them a shout out, you know, and we're going to go to Austin, another that talk about a music city. And we're going to chat with Sharon Kurtz, who is a travel writer and world traveler. And she is on our shows every first Wednesday. And you can keep up with her at Sharon k Kurtz dot com. So welcome back, Sharon. How are you? Thank you, Lisa. Happy to be here and happy to be in such good company. Ah, you are a good company. We have a great cast of ladies. See, that's the cast. See that that's the word, Joe. We're talking about who we all are. We're going to go over to Tucson, Arizona from Austin to a bring back travel writer and editor Eva Eldridge, who's been on our show for many years. And you can keep up with her at eva eldridge.com. So welcome back Eva. How's it? How's it going over in Tucson? We're a little wet right now. So we're doing very well. That is exciting to hear the desert get some rain. We love that. So this is how good we do about our travels, right? We're going to get back on the road and we're going to go up to Joe Clark. Joe is up in South Carolina. She's feeling that warmth like we are. And Joe is a food wine travel writer. You can keep up with her. Have glass will travel dot com. She also has a podcast with us every second Sunday at 7 p.m. Eastern time. So welcome back, Joe. How's it going? It's going great. But it's the third Sunday. Is it the third? No, it's the second. It's the second. I know it's at seven. Yeah. See, there it is. Every second Sunday. It's the heat. It's the heat. Yeah. It's 90 here. I'm blaming it. Totally blaming it on the heat. Well, all I know is I'm hit. I'm hit mid-age. So everything's hot. You know, I'm just saying. It's it's that time, you know, that's time of life. I don't know. We won't go there. We have travel writer and author Katie Walls joining us as you can keep up with her at americanroads.net also Katie Walls dot com for her books. And she is based out of warm Florida. So welcome back. Katie. How are you? And it is falling down here. We're uh, he didn't know. Katie, we we lost you there for a second. Uh oh. She froze up. I think she she froze up. She froze up there a little bit. She finds. Yeah. No, I think it's that Erica. Well, the heat is doing weird things to to, um, technology lately. But um, I'll just go to Linda Baloo. We're going to California cool down at the coastline. Linda is an author and also a travel writer. You can keep up with her at lostangeladventures.com. She also has her lost angel travel adventures podcast with us every third Wednesday. So welcome back Linda. How are you? I am staying cool. I'm staying close to the shores. I'm, you know, not venturing out. I went up to the window of Marina yesterday and it was even hot there, though. I have to say, but uh, yeah. Well, well, good. I'm glad to hear it. Glad to hear it. We're going to go up to upstate New York. Uh, Dr. Diane Dobry is back on the show. She's a travel writer, world traveler. And um, she just moved from warm Florida up to upstate New York. And you can keep up with her at gettinghungry.com because she's, she knows all things hungry. So welcome back, Diane. How are you? I'm doing well, um, having with an air mattress and a card table and a folding chair. And that's my, my having my house so far, but enjoying the cooler weather. That's good. Well, you know, good luck. It's so, you know, moving is always a big chapter and a big change. And it's exciting, but it's rough. It's always rough. Um, I want to go back to Katie. Katie, you disappeared on us. How are you? I think my internet connection kind of Bob. We've been having a lot of, I guess because of the heat bouncing in and out. So if I disappear, that's what happened. Well, I get nervous because you just came back from Kansas when you went to Oz, the, you know, the music, I mean, I got caught up in that tornado. That's been riding a lot of, I've been so many places lately. In fact, hot springs was a place I just came back from also since we have a hot springs person here. Yeah, Tiffany, Tiffany. Yeah. And Tiffany, you can, you can really go dig for diamonds around the corner from you, right? Absolutely. The only place in North America where you can, where the public can go to a diamond mine. I did, but I didn't find any diamonds. But I learned a lot about gangsters in hot springs that I, and I'd been there before, but I didn't know them about the, I mean, I'm from New Orleans. So I should know my gangsters, right? Right. You know, you got to know my gangsters have become from New Orleans. Yeah. Yeah. And, and hey, you've got also, you got New York on the show too. So, you know, I got a few of them up there too. I know Diane, watch out, watch out. So I want to go around the room and ask each of you, your very first travel memory, when you're a kid or, you know, whatever it was, the first travel memory you have of, you know, knowing that travel is going to be part of your life. And then also go to the most recent destination that you've been to. And it's kind of interesting, because Diane, you're kind of in your most recent travel right now, right? So you would you say that's your most recent travel? And you did part on the abstract, didn't you? Yeah, I did the auto train from Sanford to Lorton, Virginia, which that was my fourth time doing it. And this time, I got a room. I usually sit and coach and try to sleep there. The room was great because they brought me my dinner and it was private. It turned two seats into a bed. I loved it. I didn't sleep that well, though, because it's the movement of the train. Well, at least you're home now, but you've got to get her beds and everything in there. That's a good start. Diane, tell us a little bit about the very first time you traveled that you remember that you knew this was something you enjoy. Other than family trips to a beach house, the first time I really traveled on my own was I was 14. And I flew from New York to Texas. My aunt had moved there and I went to stay with her for the summer in Houston. So my father was very nervous about me flying alone. And I was nervous about being on the plane, but I apparently got over that. Exactly. And then she moved over to Hungary. So that's a whole story. Linda, what about you? When was your first memory evening? All right. So in my latest book, Lost Angel Unleashed, the first story is about the fact when I came home from I was living in Haines, Alaska. And when I came home from school at 14, my boxes were packed and my father had a bush pilot warmed up on the airport to get me out of Haines, Alaska, because I was having a fling with a boy that he took a protection to. So I was on a bush pilot in, you know, just me in this bush pilot and turbulent weather and, you know, my dropping so much, my ceiling, my head hit the ceiling and so on. The story goes on that through it. I learned that I loved to travel. It all became very exciting for me because then the next thing I was on a jet and I, you know, was being waited on by pretty stewardesses. And I was like, I was like a glamour girl, you know, and I went, oh, I love this. This is all so much fun. Of course, you know, there was some trauma involved with it. But actually, you know, when I looking back, it actually, I was projected to become a travel rider, you know, without my knowing it in that initial first flight. So that I mean, that's a, that's a, like a big eye opener, right? And that's like, you know, throw in there. You know, Nancy talks about how she learned how to swim. Her dad took her to the end of the pier. And she got an LA and just threw her in. Back in the day, you know, that's how things were done. The helicopter parenting then. Exactly. Linda, where was the last destination for you? Well, I just came home from Costa Rica as you know, Lisa, and it was absolutely fabulous. And I had a 13 day trip with overseas adventure travel company that I can't recommend enough. It's geared towards people over 55. So they go at a, you know, a nice pace, but you get to go river rafting and, you know, mild hiking in the jungle, in the forest and so on. Just, you know, it was just absolutely wonderful. And I'm so glad I was able to go. That's awesome. Now, Katie, going over to Kathleen Walls, tell us about your first, you know, because here she is raised in New Orleans, right now, the destination for a lot of us, that we get to go to this year. Tell us about your first memory of travel. Now, every year we were little, little kids, all we would go from the walls. My mom and dad would get a tourification and we'd drive over to Gulfport and stay there and go to Gulfport and velocity. That was before Kaiser. And my brother, Jerry, who was three years younger than me. So we were, I was probably maybe 10 or so when I first started really remembering the trips. And one of the things we loved, that was before the interstates and they had Highway 90 when we're going through Highway 90. And my dad had to stop at a gas station to get gas. And Jerry and I looked, oh, I got in our house and we were all so excited and happy to run using our house. And I don't think our parents were. But it was a big deal. I mean, because we didn't know about our house in New Orleans. Wow. And we got so funny because we would stay back in the day that was a little cheap tourist cabins. And they had these really, really, and I'm not sure about their reputation, but I know my mom brought fresh sheets and changed them. And we would have to rent two rooms. And one of the things my brother and I were my mom and dad were taking a nap in one of the rooms. Jerry and I got in the other room. And we accidentally locked ourselves in the closet. So about an hour in the closet couldn't get her. And she's been traveling ever since. Because she's like, don't lock me in, don't mess me in. You know, the beach. And that was what the big thing we were going for was the beach, the wings we have. And then my first as a travel ride and one of my first experiences, I was so green, I knew nothing about what you really did as a travel rider. And I just started riding for a couple RV magazines trailer life and motor coaching. And I stopped in Macon Georgia. And up until then, I always thought Macon was just a place you pass through when you're going from Florida to Georgia. And I found out Macon had all sorts of stuff. I stopped in and sighs, a lot of us like no Ruth. She was a CBB person there. And I asked her some questions and she had me sign the register. And about a week later, an invitation to go on the after breakfast trip. And I'm thinking, gee, this is some pretty expensive looking hotels. I don't know if I can afford it. So I called her and I asked her, you know, what's it going to cost me? And she said, nothing, everything's covered. So I was some press trip junkie from then on. But there's a lot of work that goes with it. And that's something important for the audience to know about travel riders. Yes, you know, our rooms and things like that are handled. However, there's so much follow up. And even on the visit, your world entouled around, I know Nicole can talk about this on the show too. It's once you get back and even there now, because we're in the world of social media, you're posting all the time, you're it is. And I don't think any of us you don't come out with just one story either. Well, I just can't back from Kansas. And I have tons of and everything is so different because it's such a unique place. So I've got all sorts of mixed up stories going right now. That's awesome. Now Joe Clark, I got to go over to you. What's your first memory of travel going to a winery? No kidding. They didn't have wineries back then. Well, I grew up in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia. And my mama was a beach babe. She loved the beach. So every summer when daddy got vacation, we went to the beach and I can remember being four. And we went to the beach to Myrtle Beach and went along with his mama's brother and his family, which gave me my five-year-old year-old cousin Bruce to play with at the beach. And I can actually remember that trip because at the motel, there was a brick border around the flower bed, you know, one brick high. And mama said I could only walk around that brick on top, you know, walk on the brick if Bruce held my hand so I wouldn't fall. I remember that. I can remember being on the beach with Bruce. But my first big trip as an adult, I was taking a class as an adult degree program student at Mary Baldwin College. And it was on Russian history and culture and we went to Russia. We were there about three and a half weeks. And this was right at the end or the beginning of Peristroika in 1989. Wow. So that was my first big trip I was covering Russia. So what was your last destination? Well, recently I had been exploring Myrtle Beach. I've been kind of homebound with ice surgeries and doctor's appointments and trying to get trying to get back on the road. But I've been exploring Myrtle Beach for a couple of different articles and podcasts. And we are so much more than just the beach. Don't get me wrong, it's magnificent and I'm on it every day. But just this week I've been to a car museum, a local new musical variety show that's just open, a local ghost tour. I walk three miles on the sand on the beach every day. I've been to a free concert under the stars on the rectory lawn down in Polly's Island. And I have seen a lot of seafood. And I've done yoga on the beach. So that's just this week. That's awesome. That's awesome. I'll go over to Eva Eldridge and I was going to say Eva knows trusted house sitters too. Eva, tell us a little bit about your first travel experience because I know everyone on this show has been outside of the country for sure. You know, I don't know about Nicole, have you? I don't know about that part with you. Have you? I have. Yeah. Okay, we're going to get to that. And Tiffany, what about you? We'll have to get to this. Oh, yes. I've been several places overseas. Okay, we're going to get to that. Okay. So going back to you, Eva, tell us about your first travel memory. Well, I had stuff when I was a kid, but the first time I was out on my own, my parents put me on a bus to Athens, Ohio. So that was from Colorado to Athens, Ohio. And that was quite an adventure, especially for me, because I was 18 and very naive. So that's the first one. But I got to see a lot of stuff. It was kind of amazing. And then my most recent one was Porto Pinyasco, Mexico, which was the most gorgeous beach. It's my favorite beach in the world, at least so far. And it was lovely. I had the beach. I remember she came on a show, Tom, about and out there. And it's beautiful. But now you're traveling around. You've got what what do I call your your it's not an RV. What is it? In our pocket, it's a trailer. I was trying to tell someone who does vintage trailers about it. And it's they're pretty, you know what? It's a whole other world with these trailers, because it's like it's like doing a whole new home in a way, right? It's like a tiny home on the road. It's a very tiny ours is only 17 foot long. So inside is very tight, but we have absolutely everything inside. And it fits in a lot of places, those great big huge ones don't. So we kind of like that. That's cool. And we're getting ready to go out in it again in July. And we'll be there. And you'll be here. That's right. Everyone. Yeah. Sharon, let's go over to you. Tell us about your first travel, like the moment for you. Well, my first travel adventure inspired my wanderlust. I was in the summer of 1981. I went to Europe with my mother and my sister. We went to Germany and France. And I remember in Paris, we were on the route of Bach, which back then was just tiny little street in an attic hotel room with no air conditioning. That was something. And I remember going to a restaurant in Paris and going to the bathroom. And it was just a whole ceramic in the ground with two like hand holes. Wow. Two ceramic. Oh, yeah. After that trip, there was no holding me back. That's so funny. That's why it turns you off. That's great. I love this. I love this. And where was the where? Because then you also owned a travel company for a while too. I mean, you had different businesses and then did a travel company for a bit. I led tours for women or another travel company. And that got me all over the world. And now I just travel and write. Yeah. And podcast. Yeah. And where was the last destination you were? I mean, you just came back from Peru. I have to mention that because that was pretty epic. Very big trips earlier in the year to Peru and to Slovenia and Austria. But I just got home from Montana at Glacier National Park where I learned to fly fish. Did you catch anything? Yeah, I caught a cutthroat trout. And it had a lot of fight. That thing about knocked me out of the boat. You go girl though. I mean, come on. That's that's some woman power right there. I mean, I have no idea about fishing. I don't eat fish, but like power too. Yeah. But Cheryl, let's go to you. Cheryl Ogle again, everyone. Hey, want to go travel and follow her on Facebook. She does great. I mean, all the 80s here that travel that a lot of them put it up on Facebook and Instagram. So I encourage when you go to their website, check it out. But Cheryl, tell us about your travel journey because I think it's amazing, you know, that what you've done over the years and travel and help so many people travel. Well, you know what's sad? It's kind of embarrassing is that I came from pretty humble travel beginnings where our family, we went to our ranch in the hill country of Texas, or we went to South Padre Island every summer. And other than a few trips to Colorado and northern New Mexico, we didn't travel as a family. There were five of us and the money, the effort, the energy. I can't imagine why our parents wouldn't take us on a plane, you know. So I didn't do any great travel, but I have I have amazing memories of South Padre Island in the 60s and 70s when there was nobody there. It was fabulous. But my grandparents, my paternal grandparents traveled significantly. And so I thought that when you're old and rich, you can travel do big trips. But you know, I'm getting old by the minute, but I'm getting rich by the minute, but I learned that you don't have to be old and rich to have those adventures. So what was that first moment for you beyond Padre Island when you stepped out like did the international travel? Because I know you, you know, lived in, you know, Central California for a while raised your family. But what was that moment when you actually broke free? Well, my first trip to Europe, we went to Italy and Spain and I could not wait to get home. I'm serious, we got off the ground back in California and we went to in and out and had double doubles and said, Oh, thank goodness for cheeseburgers. I mean, we were just we were exhausted because we were young, we were green, we didn't know what we were doing. And so that also has helped me and helped shape my business is preparing people a little more than than what we were prepared. And now, you know, I can't get enough of it. If I don't have a trip to Europe planned in the next few months, I get a little funny. And you know, my last trip, as you know, was a month in the UK. So I, I just like to be on the go now. Yeah, do what you can. You always say, we're going to sleep when we die, you know, that's every time we talk, we always like sleep when you die, you know, but then, you know, we all get a little burnout here and there, you know, but yeah, so the UK and you went all over in the UK. And of course, she saw Rod Stewart. It I did end the trip with a with yeah, the Rod Stewart concert in Ireland. So, but no, we I covered a lot of ground spent a lot of time in London, which is my favorite city and crews to the Norwegian fjords, took a short cruise to France to see the beaches of Normandy. And then I said, I was with two different friends. And so a lot of time in London, and then a few days in Dublin. So it was it was a great time. That's awesome. That's awesome. I'm going to go over to Angela over in Scotland. And she's done a lot of travel as a pet sitter, but I want to hear from Angela, what her main what got her started in all of this Angela, are you there? I am in Delhi but she's there, knock knock. Yeah. It's great hearing everybody's stories. Um, okay. So as a child, there was, you know, family trips and one thing or another. And, and, and in the UK, not many people had cars. So we used to catch the bus and go to the seaside. It wasn't called the beach. We go to the seaside. My first trip as an adult quote unquote was in my early, early twenties. And that was a charter and a package deal to Ibiza in Spain. That's where everybody started to go on a prop. And I know it was my first time in flying. And when the engines started, there was flames come out the back and I thought, that's it. I'm going to die. I'm not going anywhere. This is not going to get off the ground. But, but the one trip on my own, which actually changed my life was an invitation to go to Alberta, Canada in the early seventies for a vacation. And I've been in that country for 24 hours and I knew that that's where I wanted to live. And four months later, I landed in Canada as a landed immigrant and I am a Canadian as well. Now, so that's what started my my travel. Absolutely. Wow. Wow. You know what? This is this is interesting too, because when you think about the amount of travel you've done and you've done a lot of travel before trusted house it is right in pet sitting. Would you say this is a great way for women to travel? Because I think it is like feel safer. Oh, yes. And it's not just it's not just the safety benefit. It's the fact that you prep so much and you're and if you're somebody who doesn't want to be alone, but want to have people around you, then pet sitting you're going somewhere and there's people going to be there when you get there or they may not on you leave. But you've got pets with you. So you may be on your own, but you're never alone. And my latest trip was actually to the States and I spent two and a half months over there working. And I was in San Diego, California, Los Angeles and actually up in Seattle as well. And then I went to New York. So yeah, I mean just a lot but pet sitting really is and you know, no hotel rooms, no, you know, nothing impersonal like that. You're actually in your own home away from home. And that's what I like. And you know it came home to me when I was in New York and I spent three days in New York. I was at the event there and I got a hotel room and it was the size of a cupboard. It was a clean cupboard, but it was the size of a cupboard. And after having homes to go to and stay in, that was a bit of a wedding camp call. But yeah, well, you see, this is where we like bed and breakfast, you see, because it's kind of that same thing. But in keepers there that often become friends, they know everything. And it is like being in a home. So it's kind of like the best of all worlds. And people who pets at do get hotels and do, we do definitely give into the tourism economy. Trust me. That's where all our money goes. Which is great because tourism feeds a community. Tourism helps small business, tourism helps schools. It funds so much. All those tax dollars that go in. And most importantly, as I was saying, is a small business. And tourism starts in the home where you are before you travel. I can guarantee you, before Sharon went to Machu Picchu, she probably, or let's put Montana, she probably bought some different shoes or some gear to go fly fishing before she flew off. You know, so you put money back into your own community before you travel and then you drop it there. And on the way, you keep spilling it everywhere. So it's a good thing to do with your money. I'm just saying, it's a good, good thing. So that's a good thing. So your last place was California, New York. I mean, you came, you did, you did good. I want to go to Nicole Connell, see just to do that right over in Nakadish, Louisiana. So Nicole, tell us about your first travel memory being out of Nakadish. Where, what was your first main travel for you? Because you're in the industry itself. Yeah. So when I was younger, my dad worked for the Ford Company and he was one of their pilots. So anytime I traveled as a child, I flew. So my first economy flight was a pretty much a culture shock. So anywhere we went, it was very strange to me to not just throw my bags in the plane and, and have my dad fly me around. So those are my first memories being, I didn't realize what a luxury it was to have my dad flying me around in a private plane. Wow. That is pretty darn cool, man. Yeah. That is pretty cool. So, so then what has an adult, how did it go from there? Well, I adjusted to economy flights. I would still prefer my dad's private plane, but economy works for me too. Anytime I get to go anywhere, I do a lot of traveling, watching LSU sports play around the United States. Definitely get to do a lot of traveling with work, which I absolutely love as well. And my dad has retired to Orange Beach. So I get to spend quite a bit of time at the beach too. So always traveling, but always having a great time either with coworkers or family. Where was your last destination? So we went, we recently had a class that was held in Homer, Louisiana. And so we were, we went down to Kokodry. We were at the end of the earth. You can't drive any further than Kokodry, Louisiana. So we got to see how they are incorporating tourism into their shrimp facilities. They do tours instead of just packaging the shrimp and and getting them to the local grocers. They actually do tours so people can come and see how the production works. We also visited a local distillery down in Homer. So it was great to see, you know, South Louisiana people are just tons of fun. If you've never been around any, I highly suggest that you add that to your bucket list. It's always a good time in South Louisiana, whether they're working in their shrimp factory or they're working at their distillery. So it was a great time while we got to learn more about their way of life. So it's a great trip. That's cool. That's cool. We've been to it. Yeah, we've been there. It's awesome. Louisiana is an awesome state, you know, for sure. I want to get back into also, we're going to talk some destinations for women. But I want to move on up to Tiffany over at Tiffany's bed and breakfast. I mean, you've been in the, you know, the hotel and hospitality industry for a lot of your life, right, Tiffany? Quite a bit of it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So what started that? I mean, was it was it a travel experience? It was. What got me into that was my aunt took me to on a tour of Alaska right before I started high school. And I just decided then that I just wanted to be in travel in some way. You weren't there to rescue Linda. That was a long time ago. Wow. So Alaska starts at all off, right? And now, I mean, you're running a bed and breakfast in a beautiful part of the country and the beautiful part of the state. What was your last destination? Last destination wasn't all that exciting, but it was west back home to Western Kansas for a quick trip. And what about the international travel you talked of? You mentioned that you'd done some. That was probably also one of the leading reasons for me to get into travel. When I was in high school, I was part of a band and choir that toured seven countries in Europe. And then Bob and I have been to Belize three times. I went back to Italy and France once. Yeah, I've made I've made use of my passport. Yeah. And being an innkeeper, you get to meet people from around the world too, right? So that's the other part of it. We get to travel vicariously through our guests now, which is fabulous. Nicole, does that happen over in Nakhadesh at the you know, the tourism bear? You guys get a lot of international because you've got such a diverse cultural, you know, gum, you got a gumbo of people that live in that. We have seen a large increase in our international travelers lately, which we love. We love for them to come in and hear their stories. As you're well aware, our executive director is retiring. And in her packing up and cleaning out, she found boxes of French newspapers. So we have had fun given those to our French speaking tourists that come in and they tell us what's in the newspaper. And so it's been a really cool way to interact with our international guests. That's awesome. That's awesome. I want to go over to Asheville, North Carolina, to Karen with the line in the Rose Bed and Breakfast. Welcome back, Karen. Tell us about your first travel memory. Well, my family didn't do a lot of traveling, but I grew up in Buffalo. So several times a year, we would go to Niagara Falls. I think that's probably why I'm so attracted to waterfalls. Even to this day, I'm just obsessed with waterfalls. She's always chasing waterfalls. My first international trip was to the Bahamas and that really hooked me on just exploring different cultures and food. And I've now been lucky to be to have been in 47 different countries. So very well traveled, very happy. Yeah, you and Steve do a lot really for nature, right? And really looking for wildlife. Absolutely. Most of our travels have always been related to nature and wildlife. That's our passion right there. Traveling animals. Yeah, yeah. What was your last big trip or last trip? The last big trip was Indianapolis for the Indy 500 for our bucket list to meet up with Steve's family up there. So it's fun. That was cool. That's cool. And being in a bed and breakfast, do you get a lot of international people at the end? We do. Not as many as you do expect, honestly. But it's always fun. Same thing to meet people from all over and discover how small the world really is. All our connections and it's just fun. Yeah, exploring different people from this side of it. Tiffany would understand it's a little different being on this side of it. We have to kind of live through them, but it's still fun to hear all their stories and share our stories and just find those connections. Now, if you could go on a road trip with one woman past her present, who would it be? And where are you going to go? It would be my mom and I would take her to Africa because she's part of the reason I love animals and appreciate nature and wildlife and she's never been there. And I know if I could get her out playing to go, it would be unbelievable. And speaking of moms, now, what about Asheville and the end? I know you get a lot of solo travel women coming in, women travelers that stay there and then you see mom and we saw a lot of mom and daughters over at your end. So what's it like for women travelers going to Asheville of what they can experience? We have a little bit of everything between the arts and wellness and food. Oh, different kinds of things to paint for yourself, different spas, yoga, hiking, just connecting with nature and then enjoying the modern amenities of life, of course, nice restaurants and breweries. So a little bit of everything for everyone shopping. Very cool. Very cool. I want to go to Tiffany on that. What about over at your end? What about women? Do you get women that want to just come out and hang out in nature? Because you definitely have a beautiful area for folks to just hang out in nature, but then do the city stuff, which Hot Springs just doesn't feel like a city to me, either it is Asheville. Asheville is just like a big mountain town, but it does have a downtown. What are some of the offerings for women travelers? Well, with the Hot Springs, of course, we have the bathhouses where you can get massages, soak in thermal pools. So the ultimate in relaxation, lots of hiking, we have a beautiful botanical gardens called Garvin Woodland Gardens, which is gorgeous. You can spend a whole day there, right? It's on a peninsula on the lakes. So lakes are another attraction. Outside of the bathhouses, Hot Springs has tons and tons of spas. So lots of just relaxation and nature. And then, of course, you can always just sit on our front porch and watch the birds and anything else that might venture up into our yard. That's awesome. That is awesome. We have to go to the garden still. Nicole, what about a Natchadish? Because, I mean, still Magnolia has got to attract a lot of women to the city. I don't want to say it's a city either. It's not a city. Natchadish is not a city. We're a town, little town. I will have to echo the sentiments about Garvin Gardens. It is absolutely gorgeous. It's one of my favorite places in the world to be, just to check out. So yeah, if you haven't been, it's gorgeous. One of my favorite places to spend time. But here, we have Still Magnolias. You know, of course, it's one of our big draws for what we call girlfriend getaways, mom, daughter, trips, girl groups. And they love to come to see the locations that Still Magnolias was filmed at. We have a walking tour, self-guided walking tour that will take you through all the spots of interest where different scenes were filmed. The American Cemetery, which I know is one of your favorites, is on that walking tour. And you learned a lot about the cemetery while you're there too. But we've seen a lot of girlfriend getaways revolving around our live music, which we have at all of our festivals too. So lots of fun. We also have our Bojardan, our water garden that's going to be reopening soon after some restoration projects to our rock house, which is right next to the water gardens, which is a sawn after spot for outdoor weddings. So that gets the ladies, the brides here as well. It's Bojardan, by the way, just telling you Nicole. I just can't ever pronounce it. So no, but it's beautiful. I think for, you know, and there's so many just charming restaurants and everything in shopping too. You know, it's such a great place to go. I want to go to Cheryl here about what about mother, daughters, girlfriend, getaways, women's solo travel. What do you recommend as a travel advisor for women? I think start where you're comfortable. And, you know, I love the British Isles. I love the UK. Some of that is because you don't have a language barrier. And so that can really simplify, especially if it's your first trip abroad. You can easily get directions. You can easily read signs. And so when it's not intimidating, because that's where we went wrong on our first trip is we were stupid. We were clueless. You know, we just didn't know anything. And I think going to the UK simplifies it so much because you do get a taste of another culture. And yet it's all in English. And so that's half of the issue right there. That's a good point. It's a really good point. You know, I want to go over to Joe. Joe Clark, any destinations or experiences in your travels that you know, one thing that you can say, hey, this is going to be great for women to do. Anything you want to do, I swear, everywhere you go, I mean, people speak English or adapt enough. And you've got apps on your phone where you can say what you're trying to say. And it will translate it into another language. If it's a first time and you're just trying your wings, so to speak, come to the beach, come to Myrtle Beach and Georgetown and Charleston. You've got beaches and history and golfing and 2,000 restaurants. If you love the mountains, go drive down the Blue Ridge Parkway. There's 10 wineries along that mountain and lots of bed and breakfast where you're going to meet other travelers. Lots of them are alone too. And don't be afraid to speak to people. I mean, you know, in the south, we'll talk to anybody about anything. You never meet a stranger here. Say hello to us. It'll be 30 minutes later and you forgot why you went in the grocery store. Or they'll turn around and go, "Aren't you just special?" And that's what I have to be worried. That's what I worry about. What about you, Diane, any experiences that you recommend for women or destinations? Well, I've always done solo traveling abroad. But every year when I was, my kids were still in high school and college. My best friend from high school and I did a girl's only weekend in Sag Harbor. We went to bed and breakfast there and we found the least expensive or free things to do in the Hamptons on Long Island. And we would do walking tours and nature tours. There was always some kind of a designer show house. And we would pick one day to do, you know, a really good restaurant. But other days we would just go to like a little dockside basil shop. And we'd hit by the docks in Sag Harbor where the yachts would pull in. And we'd watch at night because you could see inside and you'd see the servants putting out the dinner on the table. It was exciting because you'd see boats on these yachts and helicopters attached to them. So it was just kind of observing the other better side of life, the luxurious side of life. The muckety mucks. What about you, Linda? Any advice for destinations or experiences for women travelers? Well, sure. Actually, I have a policy I'm usually hosted by an outfitter. And then I have a week after that I pay for myself so that I can go back and really take a closer look at things that caught my attention. And I really want to recommend overseas adventure travel again because they don't charge a solo supplement. And on the trip that I was on, there were six solo women, two were widowed, two were divorced, and two had left their mates at home. And so it's very comfortable on their trips for solo women. And I just think it was really fun. I clicked with this one woman that was on the trip and we were giggling like teenagers through the whole thing. And it was really sweet to meet some new people and spend a really quality time with them. But then afterwards, because I am corner of a loner, I do take a week on my own and then I can chill and go to slower pace. I can take notes. I can write and I can reflect. And I love traveling solo. There is something about that. You grow as an individual by doing that. I know that Karen, you've got to go because I know you have guests. I don't want to push you off the show, but I know you have guests checking in. So it's been fun having you here. Any tip that you can share? Travel tip for a woman before you go? The travel writers would know on that one better than me. We have people from all different kinds that pack nice and tight. And then there's others that bring the whole house. So I just want people to be comfortable. That's awesome. Well, thank you so much. And everyone, lion-rose.com is the way to go. But I'm going to tell you, they have stairs and you know, but there's Steve and he can pick suitcases up. He's big. He can do it. She put them into a waterfall yesterday, right? You threw them in the water. Into a swimming hole. Yeah, we did. We went to a swimming hole yesterday. Oh, thanks so much, Karen. It was always fun having you. Thanks for having me. Talk soon. Great talking to y'all. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Angela, I want to go to you on this about, you know, experiences for women and do you have any advice on that of experiences or destinations? You know, I think there is so much for people, for women to explore online and find out. I think as far as I'm, you know, just do research and use your common sense and talk to people before you go. And as for destinations, it's really what you want. I mean, there's, the world is your oyster and some good advice on here about, you know, sort of going somewhere where you don't have a language barrier. And sort of, I mean, I've been traveling pet sitting for the last 14 years. And before that, as a traveler, hotels, et cetera, and I ran a B&B on Vancouver Island for four years. So, you know, everybody has their, their, you know, their dreams and their wishes and their wish list. And I just think it's one of those things, you know, make a list and tick them off. And if they, you want to go there before whatever that great journey in the sky, then do it. I just think having been many, many places in the world and living 30 years as an expat, I just think it's the people and the places. And for me now, it's the pets. So it's, that's my three peas. Yeah, exactly. We travel for pets. It's, it's, it's like ridiculous. Like people are like, what can you come like? Sure, Walter, I have across the country. What's going on with this? Speaking of that, Eva, any experiences or destinations do you want to recommend for women? Well, as they said in, if you're going to Europe, you know, England is great, but I went to New Zealand and I spent time in New Zealand by myself. I did travel with a friend, but she left early. And I had, I was in love with New Zealand. I probably still am. It was a beautiful country and it was very easy to travel because they do speak English in a way. The accent got to us sometimes. We couldn't understand them, but you can get by pretty easily. It was great there. And in the country, I travel all over the United States at my little car. As you know, you've met me in Asheville. Yeah, that's right. And I, it just depends. I love using air. I'm not air B and Bs, but B and Bs, if I'm going to stay a couple of days and I'm visiting because I like meeting people at the B and Bs, that's a lot of fun for me. But a lot of times I'm just in a hotel because I'm there for, you know, eight hours and I'm gone again. It's just using common sense. Use your common sense and take your time and, and research your route. I like driving back roads. So, and you know, if I want to stop somewhere, I kind of plan that out. And keep your eyes open. Yeah, just eyes open. I've driven to Canada. I've driven to the East Coast. I've driven to the West Coast. I've driven Mexico. Well, I drove, but Jeff was with me. I've been with people every time I go to Mexico. I haven't, I haven't done that by myself yet. I have done a ton of Mexico driving the first time I'd went in on my own. We went there once and the second time we went in and I was supposed to follow someone and they just carried going because they knew where they were going. And all I was going was south of Ensenada. There was no real map on where we're going. I had to go by memory and I ended up in rush hour traffic in downtown Tijuana at the revolutionary, the revolution, the circle down there. Oh my God. And I swear to God, it's like two cars per like lane. And it was, it was insane. Like, and I didn't speak any, not a lick of Spanish. I mean, I just was fresh out of Africa, man. And, but then I was like, well, this is like home, you know, it's still kind of normal. And I was just like, so just keep going. So I kept going around and around until I could find a way to get off of the circle without getting myself really in trouble because of all the one way streets, which I hate. I think they should get rid of one way streets completely. But then next thing you know, I just drove into a car shop. And by the way, if you ever need your car done, go to Mexico. It's fantastic. But they, I went in, I couldn't speak anything. And I'm like, Ensenada, Ensenada. And they just pointed and I just went and I got myself. I do not know. But all I know is sometimes GPS is probably not your best friend, because you don't have the lay of the land. But when you're traveling, if you can remember landmarks, wherever you're going, even as a safety thing, because you never know, look at where you're driving and keep as many landmarks as you can. I swear to God, it was those landmarks that got me to where it was supposed to be. It's some friends house on the beach in the middle of south of Ensenada out in the countryside on the beach. I have no idea how I get it. So it's possible. It's possible. You know, these days, we're a lot more fortunate that we have things like Google Maps and, you know, and portable map systems that we can look at on our phones, which I use extensively. And I don't know. I just think, I know a lot of people, I know a lot of women who will not go anywhere in their car by themselves. And I live for that. Yeah. Yeah. I want to share any recommendations of experiences or advice or destinations for women? Yes, I have an idea for women for a solo adventure. I think women should consider intrepid travel. I went with them to Peru to learn about their company and Peru. But they have these women expeditions where they, they're led, they're small groups. They're led by local leaders, all women, they feature real life experiences. And this year, they have women's expositions to Morocco, Turkey, Gordon, India, and Pakistan. Wow. So that's on my list to go with them on a women's expedition, because as you know, I used to lead women's tours. And they, there is something stressful about getting all women together. You bond so quickly. And there's no, there's no hard lines about anything. You just laugh and have a good time. So, that's wonderful. Yeah. And you can go to these, you know, places that you think are far off for you, you know, they're doable. They wouldn't be safe on your own. But you're with experienced guides and locals and places where you never would see them otherwise. I want to go over to Katie, Kathleen Wals, any recommendations for women on experiences or tips or destinations? With Joe on that, pretty much everywhere. Most of my travels in the US, but I had found the time when I was in Jordan. And I had accidentally packed a cheap phone cup thing to charge my phone and it wasn't working. And we had about an hour in Petra. And I'm walking through this almost, almost like a flea market, little bitty Chinese shops. And every one of those people spoke English, every one of them tried to help me. I'd go in and ask if they had the phone charge of that I needed. One gentleman said, no, he offered to call a cab for me. And I didn't have the time. Finally went to this one gentleman and he had one hooked up with his own phone. And he said he didn't sell them, but he would sell me that one. And he sold it to me. I forget exactly how much, but probably the normal. He didn't got out of me or anything. It was very reasonable. And I mean, I think how many people in the United States would help a wandering area of tourists going through there, asking questions about that. They'd have just sort of blown them off. These people, every shop I went into was very kind and nice. One point I will say, when you're traveling alone and you're in a place, I was back in New Orleans and I was going to the St. Louis cemetery. It was before they had the group tours. And it's between St. Louis cemetery, with the big, high white walls. And right next to it's a tramé, which is not always the safest neighborhood in New Orleans. So to be safe, I left my purse and my good camera in the car and took just my phone to take pictures in the cemetery. But what I forgot was I locked my keys in the car. So then I had to come out and get down on my buck call underneath it to find my spare key hanging from under the call. So if you're going to be safe and lock things up, be sure you shake your keys with you. Yeah, I would always say there's a couple things we've learned. We have any Latino on our show for many years. He's a retired FBI agent. And he would come on shows and say, look, as women, especially young girls, you'd come on especially over spring break. And sometimes that's the first trip for young women. And we've done shows on it. And it's still the one show we did was really the horrors of it. And I would actually ask parents to take a good look at what's happening to young girls going to these big parties out in not knocking Florida, but some of that stuff is bad. That happens. And that's not necessarily the first way you want to go out on your travels. And he talks about the buddy system. You know, if you're traveling solo, you actually have, I think sometimes when you're traveling solo, you have your wits around you even more than you do when you're with someone. And if you're giggling and hanging out with your friends, you need to still somehow keep aware and keep a buddy system, you know, especially at night. And if you're through an area that you're, you listen to your gut, always listen to your gut. And Nancy and I go through, I mean, we we drive at night, we drive in places we shouldn't. I mean, Cheryl, how many times do you know how we go showing up on your doorstep at time? Do you like girls? This is not good. But but we like it. But it's it's watching each other's back. If you have to like we go to rest areas on our way on our cross country trips, we go together, you know, you be aware. And so buddy system, if you're traveling and always kind of have that conversation of just don't let your friend go down the street in the dark to a bathroom somewhere, go together, watch, especially if it's unfamiliar territory. So, you know, cities are the worst, but the small towns, you know, they're friendly. But just always have your wits about you. And it's really cool to learn how to do that, you know, to be aware. That's part of travel is to be aware and just aware of what's going on and experience it. So closing on that. And listen, packing, I think we all know, pack less is more, right? Have the experience, the experience should be big, the packing less. Really, you don't need to take your, you know, walk in closet on the airplane. They don't want it. And you will lose it if you do that. So don't do it. So just go as, I mean, we talk about these kinds of things on the show all the time. So I don't really want to repeat too much of that. I did want to go to each one of you and find out what is on your bucket list or where your next destination is in closing on the show. And I hope all the ladies listening that you've enjoyed the show and I want to thank everyone for joining us. But let's start with you, Diane. Where's the next destination that you want to go or are going? Well, for this year, since I moved to upstate New York, I'm going to explore New York State. Even though I'm a native New Yorker, there's a lot of places I haven't seen yet. And if it's abroad, I'm curious about going to Slovenia. I've heard it's beautiful and it's on the edge of Hungary. So it wouldn't be hard for me to get there. Do you want to answer that Sharon? Because you just came back from Slovenia or to Slovenia. It is amazing country, small, but 60% green, more than any other European destination. It's just beautiful. Wow, that's amazing. Hey, and I want to tell you, Diane, we just got some of our ancestry information and we truly are from Hungary. Just you know, Nancy's paternal side. Yeah, well, it's it's checkered. So we'll find out more, but I don't know. We're going to do a show on Hungary. We are. We're going to be. So we'll stay tuned on that. So everyone, keep up with Diane at gettinghungry.com. Going over to you, Linda, where's next? What do you want to do? Well, my summer, yeah, my summer plan is to update my book, Lost Angel and Paradise, which, as you know, is my 32 favorite days on the coast of California. And I'm going to visit some that I haven't been to and some of my favorite spots like Santa Barbara and the central coast, all gorgeous. And I am happy to re-explore coast of California. Awesome. Everyone, keep up with Linda at lostangeladventures.com. Going back to Katie over in warm Florida. And you can live up with her at americanroads.net. Katie, where is next for you or where do you want to go? Yeah, my next one is in two weeks. And I'm going to Panama City, which is really not very far, just a couple hours to drive. But I haven't been there in a while. So it's going to be fun. Looking forward to it. Yeah, Panama City is beautiful, Pensacola, Panama City. It is we used to live in both places. It's awesome. And the coast is, yeah, you can't beat it. You're going to be doing a lot of water stuff. Oh, cool. Dolphin. This time of year is going to be really nice. Exactly. I know it's going to be in a lot of Ireland. And I'm sorry. And yeah, yeah. That is awesome. Look for some dolphins. Oh, yes. You better post those dolphin pictures. We want to see them. I will find any. Awesome. Joe, where's next for you? Going to Virginia, but over the summer to visit friends and family and wineries. Headed to the Finger Lakes region of New York. I'm excited about that. I've never been in that area. The one up there in September. And it's not part of the Internet for the Internet. It is for the Internet. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. And I think still trying to put together that brief strip that was supposed to have happened in April and May and has gotten continually pushed off. So I'm hoping that happens this fall. Working on that. Katie, are you going to the contest? Yes, I am. Awesome. I've got my post ship already set too for the endless mountains in Pennsylvania. Still hope I'm pretty sure. Everyone listening in, if it was the International Food Wine Travel Writers Association, an amazing organization. We do three shows a month with them and travel writers and the destinations. And they have a conference coming up in September up in the Finger Lakes region. Corning, New York, where the glass. Oh my gosh. Corning glass. You can go there. It is an amazing area. It's also an awesome organization. So I want to give them a shout out, especially for women traveling and writing and photographers. It's I F W T W A dot org. And also organizations that are connected with travel and tourism. This is a fantastic organization for you to be part of, a destination, whether you're a winery, you know, all those anybody in the world of tourism, food and wine should be part of it. Diane, you're going, right? You're going to be up there. You're right in the heart of one media trip to Chitalka. And I'm hoping for another media trip, free trip. Okay, cool. Cool. And it's being that Sharon, are you going? Yeah. Ah, cool. Cool. So this is everyone on the show, like half the people on the show are having a party at State New York. We're going to have to follow you all. Sharon, where's next for you? Where are you going next? I forgot two back to back media trips. The first is to Oakland, California. It's a cultural melting pot. And it's got rich arts and music scene. And then I'm going to North Lake Tahoe, where we'll stay in the historic Thunderbird Lodge. I can't wait for this Oakland trip, because you're doing the cannabis trail. And I want to see how your posts come out on social media. I'm watching. I'm watching. I want to see what happens. I want to see how your posts come out. I want to see what happens. You know, it could be funny to follow up on. Eva, where's your next destination or destination that you want to go to? Um, my next destination is going to be Gunnison, Colorado, where I'm graduating from a graduate program at Western Colorado University. And then on my bucket list is to go to Europe. I'm into Scotland, but that's it. I want to fly into one end of the Europe area and fly out the other and travel throughout. So I really want to do that before I'm not able to walk. Yeah, no, no, we all going to do our travels, man. And here's a tip. Don't wait till you're retired. How about that? In the world of remote work, things are possible, you know, and you can work towards your goals too. So Cheryl, isn't that true? Do you get a lot of people that are remote travel, remote workers that travel? Yes. And I'm one of them, because I work on every trip, but more and more, I'm trying to block out some days so that I don't have to go run, run, run, and sight see, and then spend my evenings at my computer. Yeah, I want more pleasure time. So, yeah. And you know what? The more running we do, the more cake we eat, and that's not always good, but we can still have our kids. Where's your next destination? I'm going to California level on grandbabies. And while I love going to Europe, you know, there's nothing better than than hanging it out with the grandkids and my adult kids too, but really those grandbabies. But I guess my next big trip is December. I'm escorting a group. I think there's 14 or 16 of us, and we'll be doing a river cruise on the Rhine from Cologne to see the German Christmas markets, and then a little time in London, of course. And so, so everyone should go to your website for that if they want to sign up, right? Or is this right? Come on. Okay. Hey, want to go.com. Also, keep up with Sharon and Sharon K. Kurtz.com. Eva at EvaEldridge.com. Joe is at Have Glass Will Travel.com. Everyone's websites are listed in there. Angela, where's your next pet set? I just want to see where you're going next when you're not pet sitting. That would be odd. No, I am. I have my immediate one is my next one is down in Brighton, so that's way down south from here on the coast down in Brighton, in Sussex. Then I've got three weeks in London with a cat that I first sat 14 years ago. This is my 14 year with her. She was six months old when I first looked after her. She's now 14. And that's a beautiful home in, but I've got a big trip planned in January and February of next year. I'm going to Australia and New Zealand for two and a half months. And New Zealand is the place I want to go back to because it reminds me so much of home. And when I'm talking about home, I'm talking in Canada. If you've never been to New Zealand, go to Canada because you will have been to the same country, but it's much smaller. And another thing too is if anybody hasn't been to Canada and you're in the States, please, please, please, please go. Vancouver Island is as big as the United, it is as big as England. And it is the most amazing place. But then Canada is home. So yeah, so to answer your question, briefly, Brighton and then London. Brighton for Cappie, a Labrador, he's seven months old. So I'm going to have my work cut out and then a cat in London. That's it. See, this is a whole other way of travel. Everyone that's trusted, house sitters.com. It's not pet sitting for money, just so you know, it is about an exchange between fellow travelers and animal and pet lovers. And it's very awesome. I also going over to Nicole over in Nackadish and you can go to nat chitocs.com or I could sing it for you. But Nicole, where's next for you? I'm going to go get a meat pie next door. On the daily. I'm looking forward to you in August. I'm hosting some travel writers from Canada and the UK. So I'm excited to take them out to Melrose. You know, the women empowerment story that you can find out at Melrose Plantation is always exciting to share with our travelers. But next up personally, for me, my daughter and I are going on a girls trip. We are going to watch LSU play USC in the Rose Bowl every weekend. So two girls, huge football fans, huge LSU fans, two girls going on a girls trip to a football game. So you don't hear about that every day. Are you going to us? Yeah, we, Nancy and I went to USC playing against the Bruins. And I have, we have no clue about football. What we do is we put classical music on the TV and watch because it's funny. And that's our, that's our, that's our knowledge of anything to do with sports. Just put men with classical music, men with tights. And it's fun. But but and drink wine. Yeah, yeah, that's but at USC, what was beer? And we went there. Actually, you see the USC marching band. Well, we don't. Unfortunately, we're not going to get to watch them play in their Rose Bowl because they're playing in Vegas, but it is USC and they're playing out in Vegas. And I'm going to take my daughter and we're going to have a great time. Good, good. And everyone, women's history in that traditional Louisiana is incredible. We have, when you go, Cammy Henry, you've got, you've got quarantine Hunter. Yes. And then you've got to go to Breyerwood, where you can learn more about the lady who actually started Pisacchi National Forest, which is the only national forest in the state of Louisiana. So Carolyn Dorman. There's so Kim, Cammy Henry is a famous writer as well. So much history there. So everyone nakitus.com and closing it up with Tiffany, take us away. Where's your next destination? I'm going to take Angela's. I'm going to take Angela's advice. And I need to talk to Sharon about it. But we're going to Banff and Jasper, Canada, probably my bucket list since high school. And after that, I want to come see Angela because I have a pin pal from St. Andrew, Scotland since second grade. So I've been on my bucket list for a long time too. Wow. So let me know when you're here, Tiffany. And we're not that far from St. Andrews, but let me know when you make it. And if you need any, if you need any tips on Banff and Jasper, just email me. I love it. I will. Thank you. Yeah, I love it when women work together and anyone works together. This is it. Thank you all for joining us on the show today. Keep up with us at BigBlendRadio.com and all the links for all the ladies that were on the show today, again, or in the episode notes. Thank you so much and happy safe travels. Thank you, Lisa. Bye bye. Take travels. Bye bye. Thank you for listening to Big Blend Radio. Keep up with our shows at BigBlendRadio.com.