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Oceans, Seas, Rivers & The Great Outdoors Of England
This episode of Big Blend Radio's "English Connection" show with Glynn Burrows is all about the oceans, seas, rivers, and outdoor experiences you can enjoy in the United Kingdom. From walking coastal paths to cruising on a narrowboat, check out Glynn's article that spotlights some of the beautiful and memorable adventures you can have, here: https://nationalparktraveling.com/listing/oceans-seas-and-rivers-of-england
Glynn Burrows is the owner of Norfolk Tours in England. He appears on Big Blend Radio every fourth Saturday covering England as a travel destination as well as family history research. Follow his podcasts here: https://tinyurl.com/4bjzn3um
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- Duration:
- 36m
- Broadcast on:
- 22 Jun 2024
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- mp3
You're listening to Big Blend Radio's English Connection Show with Glen Verro's owner of Norfolk Tours. Welcome everybody. Today we're going over to England to talk about oceans, seas, rivers and the great outdoors. After all, June is National Great Outdoors Month here in the states. It's also National Rivers Month, Oceans Month. It's basically we're celebrating our waterways and it's a way of not only recreating in them, but also protecting them. So it's really important that we showcase them, but we want to go to England today. Summer is happening over there. It is a beautiful time to get out there, go for a walk on the beach, maybe go for a boat ride, get out in the outdoors, get some good clean fresh air. So welcome back, Glen. How are you? Oh, well, good here. Enjoying the sunshine. So it is the perfect Mr. Whippy weather, right? Definitely Mr. Whippy weather. You want to explain that to everybody? I know we just recorded a segment on this for our first Sunday Big Daily Blend Show where we're having an ice cream social. I think everybody knows by now that Mr. Whippy is a soft white ice cream that everybody eats when they go to the beach. That's right. It's right with a flake in it, which is a nice chocolate bar. Yeah, we got to have that little bit of chocolate in there. So you know, the great outdoors because the wind, you know, especially your area, you have a lot of wind in your area, right? That's why you were used for, you know, airfields in World War II, your region. Yeah, I mean, the thing is if you go up on the North Norfolk coast, there is nothing between the North Norfolk coast and the North Pole. So if you, yeah, I mean, if the wind is blowing from the north, you know about it, you know, but generally speaking, the east coast is one of the best areas in the summertime. And nine times out of 10, when they go on the national weather forecast, and they tell you which has been the hottest place and which has been this and which has been that, very often you'll find that chroma, which is on the North at coast, is the hottest place in the country. Because, you know, it is very sheltered when the wind is not in the north. Okay, but then there's the wind normally happen in winter, right? You always talk about going after Christmas day or boxing day, going for your cold walk on the beach just to, yeah, if you definitely, if you go there in the wintertime, you definitely know where the wind is coming from, because it is very chilly. But actually, you know, today, I'm just, again, I'm looking out of my dining room window, and the trees are barely moving. There's hardly any wind out there at all today. But, you know, another day it'll be a bit breezy. You know, the thing is with England, like I've said in my article, you know, nowhere is very far from the coast. So, especially in Norfolk, I'm only half an hour from the coast, you know, so coastal breezes do even get inland a little way as well. So, you know, we do get the odd breeze, but, yeah, it's lovely. Oh, well, you want a little cool breeze in the summer? Yeah, yeah. And not being funny. Whenever you're by water, that is that little bit cooler, there's always that little cool breeze off the water. And that really does make it lovely in the summertime. But again, you know, people have to be very aware that water is very dangerous. Yeah, it can take you out. Yeah, you have to be careful, because you have those rocky clip sides and it's not like the typical American beach, you know, with an umbrella and you're under the sun. Some areas are, but yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, I mean, we've got rocks, we've got cliffs, we've got sand, we've got every sort of beach, we've got mud flats, we've got the lovely mud flats, which is where the water comes in and floods. And then it goes out again. And you get, like, all this mud flat grass and stuff. There's so many different coastlines in England. Wow, that's different. We're so good for birding, because we've got all the different bird habitats that you can never wish for. One of them, your favorite kingfishers in the river areas in the pond areas. I think, yeah, the one behind you is in a park at Peterborough, which is when the sun lives. And we actually went down, you can see there's an unpointing at it over there, that little path that's running over your shoulder. The other one, that one, yeah, that path running a lot, we went along that path. And there were, there was a kingfisher on that river at that on that day. Oh, that's awesome. That's the birding is a really big deal. And I think what's a good way to go out there and really see the birds is to go like when we're talking about the coastal birds, to go on those coastal walking paths. And everyone, Glenn has an article that is linked up in the episode notes. But if you go to nationalparktraveling.com, just type in Ocean's England, something from Glenn will pop up on there. But it's linked in the episode notes, so check that out. But and also Glenn's website is there it's Norfolk dash tours.co.uk. So when you go to England, call him or connect with him online first and he'll help you plan your trip according to your needs and wants. But so if you want to do a, you know, coastal walking path, you'll help someone with that, right? And it seems that you have a lot of coastline, those at 8,000 miles of coastline in England. Yeah, the thing is it all depends how you measure it, they say, because it all depends whether you sort of cut corners or whether you go around every little nook and cranny as all these islands and things we've got as well. But yes, I mean, if anyone wanted to go on a coastal walk, I could drop them off at one end and meet them and take them inland for a lunch and then take them back again and then meet them when they've had enough and taken back to the hotel. You know, so although it's a walking holiday, it would be a very leisurely walking holiday because they would choose how far they wanted to walk. And then they could go and stay in a hotel, have a shower, you know, have a lovely meal. And then if they didn't want to continue on that walk, we could then drive a little bit further and get dropped off somewhere else. You know, that is, that is what what I offer is, is then your choice of what you want to do, you know, so a little bit of coastal walking, some trip on the river, you know, a little trip in a, in a forest and go on a bicycle or whatever, you know, that anything is possible as we say. I like that. I like that. Now, when you are taking people for like the coastal walking pass, can you give us some ideas of their choices of that? Because I think even Wales has a really famous coastal path that people can walk on. Yeah, I mean, there, there are, there is a coastal path all the way around England, more or less. There's one or two bits where you can't walk. But you know, you can either sort of walk on a cliff top or you can walk along, not actually on the beaches necessarily, but very close to the beaches. And then you've got different rocks, rocky areas. So, you know, the coastline is so changeable, even within very short distances. I mean, around Norfolk, we've got some areas that are just mud flats. So obviously, you can't walk across them because that'd be dangerous. Yeah, just a bit. Then you've got these lovely open golden beaches. And then you've got these rocky shores and then you've got these cliffs within an area of 100 miles. The cliffs of Dover? No, the cliffs of Hun Stanton. Oh, okay, where are the cliffs of Dover and Dover? Yeah, they're on the on the south coast on the English Channel. You see, that's interesting because the white cliffs of Dover are solid chalk. They're white. The cliffs at Hun Stanton are actually striped. If you if you Google Hun Stanton Cliffs, you'll see that there's a white band, which is chalk. And then underneath that, there's a very red brand, a band, which is Samstone. So you've got the two different. So you've got stripy cliffs in Hun Stanton, which is quite interesting. I love that kind of stuff, man. Well, that just shows ancient history. And that's another thing we talked a few months ago about fossil hunting. And again, when you're walking in these areas, keep your eyes peeled because you never know what you might see. You might find a mammoth like someone did in your area. Exactly. Again, on the Norfolk coast, people were just fossil hunting and they found the first bones of a mammoth and then they were excavated by the experts. But yes, I mean, with erosion on the coastline, which is something we do suffer from because of the winds and the tides, then obviously, you get erosion of the cliffs and the cliffs fall. And then there's another lot of fossils that come out of the cliffs. So yeah, I mean, you never know what you're going to find when you're walking on the beach. You never know. That's awesome. And then when you talk about all the bird life, do you get herons over there like we do here? Yeah, we get her in Norfolk. We call them "hancers." That's the Norfolk word for a heron, is a "hancer." Oh, okay. So you love another language. Another language, a bit of Norfolk. Yeah, there it is. Hey, you know, that's the other thing. I mean, when you go to England, there's so many different accents. Oh, very much. And what is with the Geordie accent? That's a lovely accent. It's a very friendly accent up at Newcastle. I can't do it because I'm not from Newcastle. I'm like, "Come on, do it. Do it again." I can't. The only thing I can sort of say about the Geordie accent is they always say, "Away, man." Something like that, "Away, man." Which is sort of, um, hello sort of thing, you know. Oh, I want to go back to the English channel, speaking of accents, because you have direct access to friends from Norfolk, right? You can just hop on over. You can hop on a train, hop on a train in London and get out in Paris. Wow. That's amazing. So you're going under the water or over the water? No, no, you've got the channel tunnel now. So you can get... But you're really going under water then. Yeah, the channel tunnel, yeah. I've been on it. That's wild. Yeah, it is. Aren't you nervous? Like, I don't know. It's kind of freaky to me. No. Boy. It's a, you know, yeah. I mean, I've been on the, on the fairies. The fairies is only short, about 90 minutes across. Two, two, friends? Yeah. From Dobe, LA. About 90 minutes. Yeah. No way. Yeah. Um, you can get channel... Can you take your car on the ferry? Of course. Cars, car... We haven't discussed this yet. It's cars, caravans, everything you like. Motorbikes, anything. Caravan, everyone is an RV, like an RV or a trailer. Yeah. So, yeah, what if someone's touring Europe and they can come over to you from there? Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, of course. You can get a train. Like I say, you can get a train directly from Paris to London. Wow. You just go straight, straight through the tunnel. And actually, you don't, when you're on the train, you don't really realize you're going in a tunnel. You know, well, you do, obviously, because you're in a tunnel. Like, there's no scenery, but yeah. How fast is a tunnel? Like, how fast is if you don't? Only about half an hour. Really? Yeah. I didn't know. It was that easy. Like... So simple. I mean, it's not... I've been under a tunnel. I don't know. We're not in the EU anymore, so I haven't done it since we're being at the EU, but... Oh boy. Yeah. The channel tunnel is a simple thing just to get... You drive your car onto a train, and yeah, you drive your car into a train. It feels like I really did just come out of the bush of Africa. Yeah, you do. You drive your car onto the train, and you just to all through the tunnel, you drive your car out at the other end and away you go. You just have to remember, you just have to remember you're driving on the other side of the road when you get to France, because in England, we drive on the correct side of the road. Uh-oh, here we go. Every party else drives on the wrong side. Really? So Europe is on our correct side, on the Americans. Oh, no. Europe is on the wrong side of the road. We're the correct ones. No, you're not. But I grew up on your side of the road. Yeah, I know. Africa followed suit because of your colonizing. Yeah, so does Australia, Australia and New Zealand, drive on the correct side of the road? Yeah, that's because you guys wanted to take over all that, right? Yeah, I don't know why America isn't, because I mean, you know... Because we said no. Remember, we had a little bit of a war and said no, we're not paying your t-tax? Yeah, I don't know why Canada, I don't understand why Canada drive on the wrong side. Because they're part of North America and Mexico drives on the right side too. So once we started it, Canada said, okay, we'll be friends. All right. But you know, we did, we were t-totlers. We said no to your t-tax. That's where the word t-totlers comes from, I think, is when we said no to your t-tax. All right. And then we threw it over off a boat and said no. That's what happened. Some in a very short sentence that is not the way to say it. You say you're a t-totler. I don't think so. No, no, no, but I wouldn't say no to t. Either because I love t, I absolutely agree with t-totlers. Okay. So hey, listen, I had to bring the boat in to keep on topic, right? That's pretty good. Yeah. Now, all right. So now that we know about transportation, you do have other kinds of boats that are above the water that people can enjoy. You've got the wind jammers and things like that too, like windsurfing, but like yachts and people can go sailing. They can. I mean, I had a lady over from New Zealand who was writing a book about medieval England. And she wanted to know sort of about monasteries. And there's a monastery right in the middle of the Norfolk broads. And it's really difficult to get to by road. But they wouldn't have gone to it by road. They would have used a boat because that was an easy way to transport. In fact, most early people moved around by boat because it was easier than going by by land because the water was so bad. So anyway, to give her an idea of what it was like to arrive at the monastery in medieval times, I hired a yachtsman and he sailed us up the broads so she could get an idea of what it was like to sail to the monastery, you know, and that is what you can you can hire a yachtsman to actually take you out on the broads. So the narrow, you've got the yachtsman, you've got the narrow boat that you were talking about. Yeah, the narrow boats are what they used to use on the canals in England. I take it, you must have had canals in America as well. And no, no, no, we have them in agricultural areas. And they are not there's no boats that can fit in that. Well, maybe, no. Right. Well, these canals in England were like straight rivers. Kind of like what they have in Europe. I know people go on barge tours. So they can barge tour, catch the train or ferry over to England and then get on on narrow boats. And they're called narrow boats because they are very, very narrow. You know, they are really narrow because they had to have two boats passing at the same time, obviously. So they're what they used to use to transport goods from one town to another, especially in the Midlands. So like Birmingham and that area were really, really big with canals. So they used to use boats because you don't need a lot of power to move a boat. And in fact, a lot of the canals were powered by horses, which sounds rather silly because you're on water. But actually, there would be what was called a towpath beside the canal. And the horse would walk along the path with a rope. And the horse would pull the canal boat, the narrow boat along the canal. Wow, that's amazing. I mean, we owe horses a lot. What we do. And the funny, I must tell you this, when they used to get to a tunnel, the men had to lie on a plank on the top of the barge, they had to lie on the plank head, head to head, you know, so you got a man lying with his legs sticking out that side, and a man lying with his legs sticking out that side. And they used to walk along the wall of the tunnel and pull pushed the boat along the tunnel. Oh, I see with me with their feet. Yeah. So the horse, the horse would be unhinged. And one man would lead the horse over the hill. The other men on the canal barge on the narrow boat would lay down and they would walk the barge through the tunnel. And the horse would meet them at the other end. Wow. So this, this is fence fascinating history. This is really, I mean, this is transportation history that we don't think of, you know, that is a trip. So voting, and I wanted to touch on the broads. And I know we've talked about the broads for years, but everyone should know that this is this. These are not the ladies of Norfolk. But these are medieval pit, like people, like, like lagoons almost. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Basically, what they did is they used to dig peat. And they dug peat near the rivers. So as they could transport, it can transport the peat in boats, obviously, because that's the easy way to transport things. And then when the peat diggens were finished, the water would flood into the hole that they dug beside them. And all of these peat diggings are now broad. So water, they're big, sort of like lakes. And they're really popular in the summertime. Well, popular all year round, really. But in the summertime, it's full of holiday makers and day trips on boats. You know, we always go every year, we went when I was little, we used to go, my parents used to take us with my grandparents out for a day. And we do that now with our grandchildren. We have a picnic on the broads. You know, that's awesome. Now, in the in the Keeping Up Appearances episode with Patricia Rutledge, which, you know, we love her. I used to bouquet for those who watch that on, you know, when it comes on PBS or whatever out here, people who love British comedy. There was that one episode where she went out boating with her and Richard and then Ebbot and his sister were in a separate boat, and they're going down the canals. Where is that kind of area where you're going down these little boats? And she ended up, of course, over, over, you know, the side of the boat into the water, which was hilarious. But they were locking the bridge, like there was, it was really difficult, like for her to understand that they were closing the bridges. The locks are you talking about? Yes. Yeah, the locks are where they change the levels because the canals were dug. So they they weren't like a river. They don't flow at the same level, so to speak. So when you've got canals, sometimes a canal will reach an area that it needs to go up or down. And obviously you can't make water go up. But what you can do is you can build a lock, which then allows the boat to go in at the bottom or at the top, whichever, and either drain the water out so the boat falls down or add the water in from the top part of the canal, and the boat will then come up. And then you open the door, it goes out again. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it's fascinating. I was actually in Stratford-upon-Aven last weekend, and there was a lock there that was being been dealt with. And, you know, yes, you need a bit of strength to move the lock gates. But, you know, this is quite fascinating to watch. So where was that? Do you think was, where do you think that was filmed? It was not that normally in the Midlands, there's a lot of canals in what they call the Black Country, which is sort of like Rand Birmingham and Sheffield, and again, Stratford-upon-Aven Oxfordshire. But the middle of England is where a lot of canals are. Is that where the Lake District is too? The Lake District is in the North, the North Sea? Beautiful. Oh, it is. Of course. Isn't that where you have your national parks too? Yeah. I mean, there are loads of national parks in England. You must come and do the national parks of England when you've done it. We're going to. We are. We are. You know we have our new initiative that I'm not allowed to talk about to anyone yet. But we talked to it, we told you, and everyone stay tuned, things are coming. By the end of the year, everyone will know, but we will be going global pretty much with our park tour and because it's all connected. We have national parks in England, and the Lake District was the first one. And that's where Beatrix Potter lived as well. I'll never forget my Beatrix bonner time there. I loved it as a little girl. I was so, because I was not a girly girl, you know? I was a tomboy. And I loved Beatrix Potter because it was all about the animals. You know what I mean? And the woods. And I wasn't a girly girl, but I also was very big into fairies. And I still believe in fairies. So I don't believe in unicorns, but I do believe in fairies. But you know, why not believe it? I mean, how do we know there weren't any unicorns? Well, we don't. How do we know? Like, you don't know. I'll just tell you this. In Blickling Hall, which is one of our beautiful stately homes, where Anne Boleyn was born. Name dropping there, you know? I know you love Anne Boleyn. Yeah, I do. And yeah, there's the library that has recently been catalogued. And we were there one day, and the man from the British library, who was actually doing the cataloging, was cataloging this particular book, which was a book about all the animals in the world at the time. And yes, unicorns were in the book. No way. See animals that were around at the time, because they believed that unicorns existed and who they didn't. And the funny thing was, the mermaids were in there as well. The funny thing was the camel, not the camel, the giraffe was called the camel apart, because they thought that was a cross between a camel and a leopard. Oh, wow. Wow. It's called the camel apart, which I thought was fun. That's funny, but they are camel relatives. They thought they were a cross between a camel. I love giraffes, and they're so threatened. And going back to the unicorn, so that was Operation Unicorn for the Queen, if something happened to her when she passed, right? They had to call Operation Unicorn, and that was the code language to do the emergency code for her, right? So see, I believe that she knew that there was unicorns then. Who's to argue? We don't know. I'm not going to argue with her. I was talking to somebody last night. He actually spent a lot of time in the early 1970s. Oh, I can't remember the name of the place, New Guinea, right? Oh, and I didn't realize that actually New Guinea was not explored hardly at all until the 1940s, 1930s, 1940s. They were then going into New Guinea. And even in the 1970s, there were parts of New Guinea that he didn't go in, you know? So who knows what's in the world? There was still cannibalism in that time frame too. Well, over there. You know, but what I'm saying is, there are parts of the world that nobody's been to. Well, nobody who's talking about it has been to people are there, like they were in Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania, you know, North America, but we don't necessarily know about it. So who knows? Right. And I actually did an interview with a gentleman from England about they created an atlas of places that are undiscovered and that like people have gone out and with airplanes and then, you know, topography maps and things. So I'll send you that. It's completely off topic. It was just kind of the wild places of the earth that are barely, you know, visited, you know, there are. And so you'll still have a few people in the world that go out there. But, but that's, you know, that that's what's so interesting to me about England. See, I'm getting us back on track from cannibalism, unicorns, all that, right? We're going back. I'm circling us around. But, you know, for you to have these nature places, because you are an island, you know, there's, there's a lot of people that live in your country, right? But you still have places where you can go for walks and enjoy like the hedgerows and get out like peddlers, peddlers, pedars way. I always say peddlers way, peddlers. Yeah. Yeah, you know, places like that, that, you know, the Roman roads that you can walk on when we talk about the outdoors. There's rivers there. Oh, the river Thames. We got to talk about that. Or is it the Thames River, River Thames? River Thames, yeah. See, I didn't say Thames. He should be proud of me. Yeah, I mean, like you say, when you consider that the England, Scotland, Wales, the mainland of the United Kingdom is quite a small area. It would all fit in Texas, you know. It's wild. Plenty of space around it. And there's about 70 million of us live here. But there is millions of acres of completely wild countryside. You know, you can just explore wilderness and get get completely away from it all. You know, there are some areas in Norfolk where you can go to and you won't see a soul. You know, that's my style. Yeah, I mean, that is the lovely thing. And even if you aren't in an area where you're going to see people, you know, it's not going to be crowded, you know, there are places that are crowded. Obviously, there are. But there, I mean, look at the mountains behind me. The hills. Yeah. You go up in them hills on our angle sea, because that's angle sea and North Wales. You go up there. You probably want to see a soul. Remember that about Scotland and Wales, you'd go on like little country roads and just beyond the middle of nowhere, which is beautiful, you know, just to have that. Just and you know, what I love is you have, you know, true streams, you know, little streams. And I remember as a kid when we were in England, and I don't know where we were. I think we were in Scotland. And there was this beautiful stream area and you could talk about rocks and pebbles. That was also one of my favorite things, you know, as a kid, you're throwing pebbles and all of that. But there are these, you know, big rocks like this kind of making like a walkway. But you know, I had these boots on, wellies, right? What it was. A little wellies on. And so my feet weren't doing it. I was going to fall in the way I was walking. And Nancy's like, don't do that. You're going to fall in. No, I'm fine. I'm fine. Don't do that. You're going to fall in. What do you think happened? Well, of course. Well, of course. But and it was cold. Oh, yes. It was cold. And you know, so that's when Nancy goes, you know, any chance she got this? This is why you listened to your mother. I'll never forget falling in. But and of course, I fell on my bum because it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't a huge amount of water. So I just had a wet butt, you know, here it is. I said bum instead of butt because you say bum, you don't say butt in England. Do you know the bum? It's a bum. Yes. It's a bum. I had a wet bum. And of course, as a little girl, that was embarrassing. Of course, it was. But you know, this is this is the fun, isn't it? That you are just in nature, you know, you can those lovely little streams. Oh, I love that. You can just walk across by picking where you put your feet, you know, and that just that for me, it's the sound of bubbling and flowing water. It's just so amazing. It's calming. And they say that you're one of my favorite quotes by the guitarist Carl Perkins, who's just legendary to me, is if there's if it weren't for the rocks in the street, there would be no, if it wasn't for the rocks, there'd be no bubbling stream. You know, you wouldn't hear the musical stream basically. I screwed it up, but you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So it's kind of a nice thing to remember in life that you've got to have the rocks to make the music. Exactly. And it's like everything else, you know, people say, oh, we get a lot of rain in England. But look, what we get, because we do get a rain, we get green. You know, I mean, I remember I was I was driving through the countryside once, and I had some some people in the car. And I said, just look at the view over there. Could paint that, but you only need one color. And that color is green. There are millions of different shades of green. But you could paint that entire picture with green. There is nothing but green. But you've got that. I've got all those beautiful trees, but you also have a lot of flowers. I mean, the gardening side of things. I mean, the gardens and just, you know, roses. And just the what, you know, the prim roses. And I remember when I was in school, the one teacher to always take us outside, whenever she could. And you know, I remember getting in trouble. Because of course, I went up a tree and you weren't supposed to go up the tree. But you know, and she was showing us we were doing like nature stuff and showing us all the flowers, just looking what were all these plants. And of course, I'm like, yeah, let's do this. This is my kind of school. And she taught us how to make daisy chains. And there were buttercups everywhere. And I was like, this is cool. You know, I felt, I felt better because we had just come from Kenya. And that is like flowers, our place, you know. And so all the buttercups, it was completely new to me. So I was like, this is so cool. But the buttercups, you guys have, are they gone now or is that mostly spring? No, no, they are absolutely in force at the moment. I can't think where I well, it must have been when we was at Stratford upon Avon in one of the because we were staying in a hotel with a with really big grounds. And I'm sure it was there when we were walking around the grounds, there was an area that was completely yellow with with buttercups. Yeah, it's it is amazing. I mean, nature is amazing. You know, all you've got to do is just sit and just take it in. Exactly. Calm, calm your soul, man. Oh, especially by water. It's there is something embryonic, I think, about water. And just hearing the tide and it just kind of feels like, okay, it's lucid. It's it's it's good. It's good for your soul. There's a lovely bit of coastline in Norfolk that is a shingle beach. So it's all stones. And to hear the sea washing up on stones is just totally amazing. It's like a round of applause. Every time it comes in and goes out, it's like a round of applause. It's absolutely fantastic. It's music to your ears. Oh, it is. It is. It is love it. I love it. I mean, everyone, you've got to go to Norfolk dash tours.co.uk. Keep up with Glenn there and plan your nature trip. And I know it's summertime. So it's really gorgeous. But all season around, you can get out in nature, even go walking through a little bit of snow and, you know, it's it's beautiful out there. All the photos I've seen that, you know, you've shared over the years. Plan planet year round, right? You could go out and people can go camping in the summer, right? That's the other thing. Oh, yeah, camping. I mean, again, like I was saying earlier, you know, if you want to have a little bit of camping, a little bit of hotel, a little bit of living in a cottage, you know, it doesn't work. I can make you a holiday, however you have a vacation, however you want it made up, you know, camping hotels, caravans, cottages, boats, whatever you want, you know, and there are so many things available to people nowadays. I love it. I love it. Well, thank you so much, Quinn. Thank you. We'll talk to you next month. Yeah, I look forward to it. What should we talk about next time? Stratford on Avon. Oh, yeah, that would be good. Shakespeare. Yeah, your favorite man. We're going to go back to school. Glad I'll do Macbeth for you. The only bit of going back on Shakespeare, I'll just tell you, when I did study English literature, we studied Twelfth Night. So I remember the opening speech of Malvolio, which was, if music be the food of love, play on, give me excess outfit, that's defeating the appetite will sicken and so die. And that is my end of my knowledge of Shakespeare. Mine is Macbeth. I want an award for being a witch. Go figure. Yeah, not believe it. Yeah, double, double, toil and trouble, fire, burn a golden bubble. Fill it up with any snake in the Colton Boil and bake. I have new toggo frog. We'll have bet. No, I've forgotten. Leave that till next time. Yeah, all right. Well, we'll catch up on Macbeth next. So I mean, Shakespeare next. Thank you so much, Quinn. Bye bye. Thank you for joining us for Big Blend Radio's English Connection Show with Glenn Burroughs, owner of Norfolk Tours. If you're planning a vacation to England or looking up your family history in England, visit Norfolk-Tours.co.uk to connect with Glenn. Keep up with our shows at bigblendradio.com.