Rabbi Aryeh Beer
Hilchos Tefilah Siman kuf yud gimel part 3
- Okay, I didn't have a chance last night. Okay, (speaks in foreign language) was asking me about bowing by cottage. You look around and you see a lot of people don't bow by cottage, they just say it's straight. Except for us to show them, they step back. So this is interesting. So we mentioned yesterday at (speaks in foreign language) the way it's brought down by (speaks in foreign language) about twice at the beginning, by his cattle and by his boat, but the (speaks in foreign language) mentions four or five times. But this is interesting. The grayin opposed it. Maybe that that'll be a issue for those, mischievous, maybe we don't do it. The grayin opposed it. And the interesting thing is that I'm a little surprised, but (speaks in foreign language) went with the (speaks in foreign language) And then in the way that this is (speaks in foreign language) and he says, "Oh, first of all," he points out, which we did mention, then the safest here (speaks in foreign language) there was murder that the (speaks in foreign language) people are not marked with the (speaks in foreign language) should be in the direction of (speaks in foreign language) remember the one therapy (speaks in foreign language) but he definitely brings here, but in the footnote, he says the following thing, very interesting. She says, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) of (speaks in foreign language) did not bow (speaks in foreign language) she just said it's straight. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) after the growing brings the (speaks in foreign language) that you are supposed to grow five (speaks in foreign language) from (speaks in foreign language) and the tour, the growing continues. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) doesn't sound like (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) which there is such a sheet, not (speaks in foreign language) what do you so mean? (speaks in foreign language) that's what (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) you have private (speaks in foreign language) then you can bow like they bring from (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) it's not a private, it's part of the (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) now the Mr. Buhr doesn't bring this down, Mr. Buhr's (speaks in foreign language) you have to bow, (speaks in foreign language) doesn't say, (speaks in foreign language) now comes interesting, (speaks in foreign language) that's what (speaks in foreign language) but when he was in (speaks in foreign language) he did bow, (speaks in foreign language) 'cause that was the meaning of (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) now, but now come the second (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) that's the (speaks in foreign language) bow down a little bit, (speaks in foreign language) he didn't do it, (speaks in foreign language) it's a very interesting (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) and he explained more (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) which is the Mr. Buhr brings it, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) even though (speaks in foreign language) you should do it, (speaks in foreign language) it's not a (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) to me 'cause the other person say, (speaks in foreign language) but he explains the (speaks in foreign language) understands that (speaks in foreign language) as a contrast to the belt, (speaks in foreign language) the grain, what is the grain, (speaks in foreign language) it's not, we're not emphasizing that, we're not going to bow down, we just can't share (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) but it's not that you have to bow down now. Okay, we're just saying that (speaks in foreign language) it's not bow down by (speaks in foreign language) not at all, maybe those will do it, he didn't do it, the grain says not to do it. Now, another interesting thing here, very interesting which says it that he says, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) somebody asked that, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) so he says you don't bow down there. (speaks in foreign language) No, no, he's, (speaks in foreign language) said, right, it may be placed on the grain, but he said not to do it, but this is interesting. This is what they write here. I think he's (speaks in foreign language) that denotes (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) No, he doesn't mean the (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) No, no, he means no, no, no, no, he means the (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) which is earlier, (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) I hope that, I mean, that's what they write here. (speaks in foreign language) I didn't, I didn't, I didn't look it up in the habit. (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) so comes out according to that, right? That's something most students do not do it. (speaks in foreign language) Yeah, (speaks in foreign language) even though it's (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) it's the same like, (speaks in foreign language) they don't do it. So he brings here from the (speaks in foreign language) that's a (speaks in foreign language) (speaks in foreign language) say even (speaks in foreign language) and this thing, and he says, it's totally, (speaks in foreign language) then they are supposed to, what's the den of (speaks in foreign language) is it like a mini (speaks in foreign language) a shot, so Friday night, is that what it is? Or just a slumber, and just in addition to the feeler. And he says, that's what it will depend on. Okay, a couple of (speaks in foreign language) that's interesting from (speaks in foreign language) okay now, there's a few other times we bow down, but I'm gonna do first, let's finish the simming. 'Cause what, the next few things are not in this simming. Let's finish them, won't take, I have just a little bit to do, let's finish a few, (speaks in foreign language) - How did it come in over here to consist, you know? - Bowing down. (speaks in foreign language) - It brought about not to be mostly. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we discussed it, and we came out, no, but we came out that, if some are, the first type part of it was only (speaks in foreign language) not to be mostly with (speaks in foreign language) right? And that was in the Mr. (speaks in foreign language) - Yeah, (speaks in foreign language) - Yeah, and other places were not a problem. And, but he's coming, but the guy, and he's saying anything that's (speaks in foreign language) whatever, if you all didn't say it, you didn't know you should do it. Now, okay, we'll come back, we did, Sif Zion, we did Sif Zion, we'll come back to it a little bit. Let's first finish, yes. Okay, this is a Shire, which we don't have today too much except in some hospitals. You have this question. (speaks in foreign language) And some have a guess, (speaks in foreign language) So he means the (speaks in foreign language) right? The guy had had had a (speaks in foreign language) they had a cross, right? So he's assuming that maybe it was true in the time of the (speaks in foreign language) that's a very (speaks in foreign language) I think that's what he's referring to 'cause in the time of the (speaks in foreign language) and there wasn't too much other types of (speaks in foreign language) that they knew about. So anyway, he has a (speaks in foreign language) either he's carrying one, (speaks in foreign language) if you know of the stories, the (speaks in foreign language) they had to carry it in their hand, (speaks in foreign language) and all that was worn over here. So, and this person is in the middle (speaks in foreign language) and the guy is there and he's time for him to bow down, right? So he says (speaks in foreign language) he should not bow down in front of an avoiders over. Now, even though, obviously, he's not bowing down to that avoiders over. He's bowing down to a ship. But nevertheless, it looks like he's bowing down to a avoiders over the (speaks in foreign language) so you're not allowed to do it. It's not a bit of a result, but you're not allowed to do it. He says, don't do it. So you just have them without bow. If you're stuck in such a thing, you just have them without bow. Now, it's not gay today in the hospital, some of the Christian hospitals, they still have in the rooms and it's found in the middle, but they have a problem. They have, they might have such a thing on the wall. So if you can cover it, cover it. They might be very upset if they come in and it's covered. But if you can't cover it, so then you should delve into a different direction. You can dive in in the room, it doesn't answer the room. It's not a room for prayer for you, so it's a hospital room. But you shouldn't dive in that direction, even if it's miserable, 'cause you shouldn't be bowing down. So go to the corner. Now, there is a sad, I don't know enough about it. There is a sad that today it's not an item of worship anymore. That depends whose hospital this. Some are more religious, some are less religious. So you have to know, it is, or it isn't. Anyway... - What's the money worshiping on chefs today? - Yeah, yeah, because sometimes... - It's not a symbol. - No, no, yeah. But the symbol itself, if it's not worshiped, it's not a void of love, right? But let's say, when they see such a thing, some of the going will come and bow down. When they see such a thing, they will. The religious, when they come into a room... - I like not to observe because it's a symbol. It's a symbol. - No, no, you have to know, I'm not going to discuss it, okay? You have to know, it is a symbol, but you have to know, do they worship it, or do they don't worship it? If they don't worship it, then it's just a symbol. They worship it, it's a problem. If they bow down to it, then it's what's called worshiping. And it's a... - So, mamish has to be in front of you, or you could see with your eye. - No, no, I would say it should not look like you're bowing down. That's all. - And if it's over there, then you see with your side. - Yeah, I don't know, I don't think it's the vision part. It should not look. If somebody will interpret what you're doing, that you're bowing down to that figure, then you can bow down. You can bow down. It doesn't answer the place. There's a talking about a hospital room, not talking about a prayer place. Prayer place, you shouldn't bow down. You shouldn't bow down to such a place if there's something in there. That's a place for prayer, then don't do it. But in the hospital room, it's in the hospital room. So just don't play in that direction. You shouldn't bow down. He said, he doesn't, by the way, he doesn't say you're not to stop down. And he says, don't bow down. - So that's the reason. - Okay, mish nabur. So mish nabur. We are though, he's carrying it in the sand. I am going to warm my chakasov. Deim huver hulu. Very interesting mish nabur. What did the mug nabrum say? The mug nabrum says that if this person is a high official, he's a SAAR, and people bow down to him. He might be in trouble if he don't bow down to him. So the mug nabrum is makrum. The mish nabur has left it. He didn't even tell you what it says. He moved a hulu. Doesn't even say what the mug nabrum says. The mug nabrum says if he's a SAAR, he's makrum. But he says that mug nabrum is because of chalil alahakul bizeth. (speaking in foreign language) So you stand there, you stand there, it's not. Okay, not the bow down. Okay, now Afapi, what's that? (speaking in foreign language) But still, it's also, (speaking in foreign language) Now, Tess, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) He was right, no? Oh, so you wanna know, okay, the answer's like this. No, yeah, but (speaking in foreign language) It's a shot of sakana, it's not so simple. (speaking in foreign language) Oh, no, Haman had a very dissolving. There is such a chazal that he had a very dissolving. Yeah. (speaking in foreign language) No, so that's a question. So that's a question. Were they bowing down to Haman? Or some, there is a chazal that he had a very dissolving. (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, yeah, so, so, so, so someone to say that it sakana was a homo on the part of Fortahai, right? And then he just didn't, but, and the chalas were not over. Everybody else was bowing down to him, right? So, so, and then there's a chalewa that's made out of a miyira. They weren't really bowing down to him to worship him. He was just, that's, he wanted it for power. And everybody should bow down to him. He didn't make himself to have kind of a desire to worship. It's controversial. (speaking in foreign language) It could be, it could be, yeah, it could be. It could be. I didn't research it now, but it could be. Generally, it's considered that people bow down to Hamanai because he wanted it all as power. It was power, aren't we? (speaking in foreign language) But he didn't. There isn't a pin that he had nobody to start on. Okay, now, Tess, okay. So, now he says, (speaking in foreign language) This is a very different chazal. The nivim, (speaking in foreign language) described the abishter, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) So, those taught him we can use, but you should not add. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Because if you add your own shivakim, and it seems like you, so is it, are tidying up and how to praise the reburniture on them, we're not in a position that we can, yeah, it looks like, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That's it. You now touch them up. Maybe we can't do that, we can't. But what we have, that's the nivim, expression is used by the nivim. So, those we can use. But he says, (speaking in foreign language) Because, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Let's say a person baits a horse from the abishter. He has a private feeler. In the middle of the feeler, he's using expressions. You know, (speaking in foreign language) Things, expressions of the abishter, you're so good. He's saying his own (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Nevertheless, nevertheless, (speaking in foreign language) I think the rambam is (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) He wants to add (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Let him choose (speaking in foreign language) then express (speaking in foreign language) and then he's safe. (speaking in foreign language) It's all in my records, we have all these (speaking in foreign language) and then he's being married on top of it. (speaking in foreign language) It's, I'm not being married, I'm gonna send a few actions. - Yeah, but you're approaching the abishter, you're touching him up. We're not, we shouldn't be doing that. That's all. That's all this, it's a better use of (speaking in foreign language) So come here safe. This is how, then the VM or the (speaking in foreign language) whatever it is, this is how they describe the abishter. You're just using, they knew what they were doing. They were the madrega that they knew how to type. I'm gonna say, "Touch up." They use (speaking in foreign language) It's not your favorite person, does it? - I was tired of a chef to help us. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, not a problem. (speaking in foreign language) No problem, no problem. Especially if it's not in the middle of (speaking in foreign language) You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (speaking in foreign language) Okay, okay, no, no, no, no. Now he's talking about, he's starting out, again, he's, the Mahab is starting out with the (speaking in foreign language) So you're not allowed to add, that's the way it talks about. Somebody went and started dabbling with a lot of (speaking in foreign language) and I think it was, I think it wasn't happy what he did. (speaking in foreign language) They said three things and they said it. First of all, they were sucking it and they said it. So we say, that's enough. Okay. So that ends with him and now let's go to a few more places where this is Nogaya, the question of Kriya. Yesterday, we talked about Modim in the (speaking in foreign language) and again, the (speaking in foreign language) is that he held that you don't bend your knees when you say Modim. That's the (speaking in foreign language) because he made it a distinction between when you say (speaking in foreign language) by bar he says you bend your knees at (speaking in foreign language) you bend right you bend over in the back right (speaking in foreign language) and you're up already, that's another question. The (speaking in foreign language) didn't speak out which bothers me. It says (speaking in foreign language) and the (speaking in foreign language) because it says (speaking in foreign language) does he mean you get up when you say the shame or do you get up before you say the shame? So there's a deal from a (speaking in foreign language) that they bring (speaking in foreign language) that (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) but in (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) then you're up, you stand up (speaking in foreign language) when you're coming to say (speaking in foreign language) that's the (speaking in foreign language) you're up already when you say it. Now that's how it's brought down in the case of (speaking in foreign language) most of this foreign bring it down that way but it's brought me a little bit that Mr. Wood doesn't comment (speaking in foreign language) doesn't say before because (speaking in foreign language) so in (speaking in foreign language) it's a particular problem. Anyway, the (speaking in foreign language) has a chuva I mentioned yesterday that it's before you mentioned the shame and he says that that's the meaning. Okay, but anyway now (speaking in foreign language) again, the Mr. Wood does not say that you have to bend the knees. That's the way (speaking in foreign language) by the way in (speaking in foreign language) because he doesn't say he says what you do by (speaking in foreign language) when it comes to mode and he says (speaking in foreign language) did not say to bend the knees. Okay, so that's how he takes it but the (speaking in foreign language) et cetera, the most of it that (speaking in foreign language) they say that you do it and that's a clear from the Ramam. Ramam says (speaking in foreign language) four times (speaking in foreign language) like the (speaking in foreign language) and he says that he says all four the same way. So I would assume that accepted position would be to bow down it to be (speaking in foreign language) but what told me back is I seem to have a feeling that it made me a child and he's going with the (speaking in foreign language) I don't remember now but it could be that the (speaking in foreign language) may say not to bend the knees at (speaking in foreign language) let me just check one thing out there. I don't know if I have it here. Mm, not sure, not sure. Okay, so that's that. What about mode and the (speaking in foreign language) Now we come to mode and the (speaking in foreign language) So mode and the (speaking in foreign language) is in (speaking in foreign language) and is, you're supposed to bow, how do you bow? So in (speaking in foreign language) it says, it says (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) when he bows down and he says (speaking in foreign language) now everybody agrees. He's saying (speaking in foreign language) So he's bowing, whatever the den is, for mode and (speaking in foreign language) he's definitely doing that. Now what are we doing? So it says (speaking in foreign language) and the (speaking in foreign language) adds something. (speaking in foreign language) What was his (speaking in foreign language) to add the following words? (speaking in foreign language) What is he bowing? We know that you bow down at mode. Why does he have to, what's he saying? You shouldn't bow down too much. And what is his, you know, his (speaking in foreign language) So the (speaking in foreign language) says what he means is (speaking in foreign language) You should bow down like any other time you bow down. (speaking in foreign language) There's no different than any other of the (speaking in foreign language) that you're supposed to do. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That's what we just learned. The only problem is that the (speaking in foreign language) didn't say to bend the knees. So it means you bow your whole body, but like, right? But like you do, when you yourself, same mode. So whatever you do when you're (speaking in foreign language) and you say (speaking in foreign language) that's what you do by (speaking in foreign language) That's what he means. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That's what we're gonna have for them. That they didn't do like the (speaking in foreign language) No, they do bow. Okay, (speaking in foreign language) Now, as you know, there hasn't, when he says (speaking in foreign language) they end too. That's a regular bow. (speaking in foreign language) Now, the teacher says (speaking in foreign language) He's supposed to bow there. That's a big controversy. Some say no. And some say yes. I say that the (speaking in foreign language) from the (speaking in foreign language) in the (speaking in foreign language) That's all that they did. They did, they bowed also. When they said. (speaking in foreign language) No, no, whatever they did. (speaking in foreign language) Whatever they did in the beginning, they did it here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not the meaning of going. (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every career, when there's a career, either he did it or he didn't do it. (speaking in foreign language) He had no half ways. A lot of times he didn't do it at all. Yeah, you know, but where he did it. Now over here, so now we'll read to you the Piskitubas. Okay. And he has a very interesting comment here. The Piskitubas says (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Even Mr. Boo says from the (speaking in foreign language) The meaning is not. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) A lot of people don't. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Just spend the head, but that will come out according to this. Now, so he says, so he says that even though he brings, okay, he brings a lot of the colors. I compound him, I guess, whatever your meaning is. If you don't have a meaning, so it's a good question what to do. It's a good question. Oh, oh, let's see the soft part. How many, there's, (speaking in foreign language) Okay, wait, oh, it is a Mr. Boo, I'm sorry. I was like he's calling Mr. Boo. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Oh, yeah, but Mr. Boo, yeah, it is a Mr. Boo. There's two ways to do the clear by Mr. Boo. Maybe that's why someone wants to go down. They stay down till the end. Others get up and bow, so it could be, but so let me go back, I'm sorry. Let me go back to (speaking in foreign language) and Mr. Boo brings the end, let's see where you, yeah. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) So when you say the shame, (speaking in foreign language) So the Rochelle said at the end, you bow again. (speaking in foreign language) Which means they stay down. They don't get to go back up. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Which is mean at the end, you get up and you bow again. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) What? (speaking in foreign language) Whatever you do for motive. Whatever you do for motive. If you, whatever you do for motive, right? But if you don't bend your knees for motive, you won't bend your knees here either. Okay, so-- (speaking in foreign language) No, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're doing, yeah, (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, yeah, yeah. (speaking in foreign language) Yeah, I would assume so. Okay, now there's one more, a quick key, one more. The Andish One Essay, right? At the Andish One Essay is there a clear over there. You're supposed to bow and you step back three steps, right? And then, but do you need to bow your knees, bend your knees there? So he brings here, okay? (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Okay, now Mr. Boer, (speaking in foreign language) Oh, no, that's a statement. Now let me read you this. He says (speaking in foreign language) That's a lotion. (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Mr. Boer says you bow regularly. Before you step back, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That's a totally different thing. So mainly, he comes out, a lot of people don't do it. I want to see where he brings it, I want to read you. (speaking in foreign language) Okay. Anyway, so some do and some don't. But he says here at the end, you say (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Who are you talking to? (speaking in foreign language) Nobody listening, he's saying it quietly. Who are you talking to? So you're talking to the malachim that accompany you. (speaking in foreign language) Et cetera, listen to this. (speaking in foreign language) This is the quote. (speaking in foreign language) Talk about yourself. (speaking in foreign language) What does that mean, what shall it mean? (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) It should be it's a freedom. What are they which gives you? You should have (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) 'Cause if you have the meters, they stop 'cause (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language)