The Evil Never Dies Podcast

S3 Ep271: Season 3 Finale - ASKA Interview

For our season 3 full length episode finale we have a great interview with our friends from DFW based Heavy Metal band ASKA ! Check out they're new album at ASKAHQ.com .... It's available on vinyl , cd and digital download! @askahq #askahq #knightstrike #texasheavymetal #heavymetal #heavymetalpodcast #keepitmetal #hornsup #stayevil http://theevilneverdiespodcast.com
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Duration:: 2h 3m
Broadcast on:: 08 Jul 2024
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Warning, this podcast may contain graphic violence, sexual themes, and bad language. If our language offends you, we apologise, but we do not give a fuck. Be mindful of your kids listening. [Music] Welcome back to the evil never dies podcast episode to 71 season three finale show. Yes, it is. This is the season finale of season three. We won't be back until after Texas hotter's convention when we will start season four with a new theme song I might add, finally. Are we recording it? Yes, we are recording. You want to do our theme song? Sure, go for it. We need it. Yeah, we would love to. So tonight we have very special guests with us on the show from the band Asuka. First, we have lead singer George Cole. Hey everybody. What's up George? Thanks for coming on. Thank you, man. It's my pleasure. We are here with Scott Klut, who is Asuka's agent of many years. Banshee. Banshee. On and on. Bages, rumors. On and on. Remember of Omen. He's a global death war beast. Do you remember his? He's a global death beast. Yeah. Yep. I'm a global beast. It's just died. But yeah, so he's our booking guy and I'm actually over here. Then I was a faith player for Omen at the same time. George was an Omen. Yeah. Now remember that. That was when Omen was actually doing stuff. No offense to Omen, but I'm not a big fan of Kenny. So screw him. I don't. Yeah. He sold his house. He lives. He lives three doors down from me. That way. Really? Three doors down. That's how I'm ending. That's how I got the gig. And now he's sold the home and he's thinking he's going to move to Corpus down in that area. That's where her daughter, my daughter lives down there in the Galveston area. Wow. I think the drummer lives in Houston too. Let's introduce drummer Danny White since Danny broke and jumped in there. Welcome Danny to the Evil Never Dies podcast. Hello. Hello. Hi Danny Danny Danny. And next we got. Next we got the new guy. Aaron. Yes sir. Introduce yourself new guy. Yeah Eric. Yeah this is Eric Halpern. I'm down here in Houston, Texas. Glad to be on. Thanks for having me. No problem. Thanks for coming on. Glad to have you on the show and glad to have you and ask as well. Thank you. Glad to be here. I've been around these guys so long you know it's it's it's like a big family. He's done two shows with us so far and done brilliantly. The one I saw was perfect. Yes. Yep. He came in. He came in perfect. Yes. Definitely. Eric. He's very well pedigree. He's got a long line of bands you know feathers in his cap. Definitely. Well we got Perez was bragging on him last week and I was at the record store. So that's good praise when it's coming from John. That's great. Yep. From solitude. Yeah when John says you're good you're good. There you go. Let's go. You thought about John Perez? Yeah from solitude. Oh yeah. Yeah. John's a great guy. He knows man. I tell you Eric you've been around a long time. Me and Asco were friends and fans of his band before that we played together years ago. He was in Zilad Z and you know we played with them here. We played with them there and Usen and he's a great player and a great addition to the band. Definitely. Eric. I'm sorry. Yeah. So yeah we're very happy to have him. Go. Yeah. But anyway yeah so we're here. Scott's been testing out this light system here that we might get asking you. Let's see if we can let me see if I can get a sneak preview for the show here. Yeah it's. But it won't be. It's still light. So. Can you see that? You're not going to be able to see squat. Biting trusses and rods and all that stuff. Yeah I see it over there. Yeah. Yeah. Can I see this? There it is. It's going to be a part of my metal thunder entertainment. Yay. I like it. Go look it up. No thunder entertainment. Metal thunder entertainment. Everybody. Check it out. Let's put it in the show notes. Yeah we will. Jay Gilligan we might have to break out the guidance again. There we go. Say we might bring out the geysers. It's like smoke bomb. Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely a few smoke fog machines going on. Well we just we just got to get Alan not to operate him. Our headrode he he had one show he got a little over zealous. He had the whole whole club just completely look like London. That's what I'll be calling Paz. Well you say you want to bring out the guys servants. Yeah. That's right that's right that's right that's right. Bring on the guy. And Eric's Eric's doing a shameless plug there on his back. I love his good. Yeah I got the flyer here for the next show. Hey yeah. That will be two weeks from it'll be two weeks from the time you hear this show on the 20th of July Jay Gilligan's in Arlington, Texas so come check it out if you're in the Dallas forward area or if you're anywhere in Texas just drive your ass out here and come see Asca. Check this out show you something I know that the evil never dies podcast started. You guys started as horror themed show right. We do we'll also do heavy metal album reviews to right you got but you started as a horror thing right. Pretty much. Pretty much yeah. I was brought in to be the heavy metal expert and I became the horror movie expert so go figure that out. Well this is my bedroom that you're going to start looking at. So so you call your brother and you were you're the horror guy but here Scott it happens to be a big horror guy himself. Let me show you what I'm talking about. Do you have light that we can turn it in here? I can see okay. I see characters yeah he is a huge evil dead and okay that's awesome oh man but he has an entire six scale walking dead figures collection there's Carl there's a brick here's a show with her zombies oh wow yeah I remember when she first came on she had those zombies on a chain yes exactly there they are yeah that's badass I love it here's a plan right here custom right yeah custom plan there's a governor the governor there's I think that's there all right that's there we have yeah I custom I laid his crossbow down and put in a bar pigeon on because one of the most iconic scenes that he was ever in was when he shot out the rocket launcher yeah he blew up all the motorcyclists that were part of the saviors and then he came in just in time to blow up all of the zombies he shot he had a hanker gasoline tanker and he filled up that pond that was inside Alexandria and then he shot the rocket launcher into it and then it's like the whole thing caught him far and all the zombies going to Abraham I forgot about Abraham actually that's a custom well looks like you got a couple of grand in just walking dead figures there I have never even seen none of them before I never custom they said them are awesome oh he's a Funko pop freak like I am yep you might want to bring Scott off for his own interviews we might have to do that yeah we might get a hold of you I think our friends with you on Facebook we'll get a hold of you we'll just do a horror interview show up all your memorabilia that would be cool look at yeah these guys so I mean all walking dead then look Chris the people dead are you darkness yeah I mean so I don't you know I don't want to get sidetracked there's a little bit more than that Morgan Morgan big from fear of the walking dead that's another custom that's the one I like right here Maggie Maggie yeah Maggie's hot man they look like real people they do don't they so hard so yeah as you can see he's a serious whore so um you can yeah go here look what is this dollar panel what's up and actually if I was pretty close to playing the night before ask of on the 19th and Lee Harvey's in Dallas yeah anyway so yeah so Scott they're gonna they're gonna call you they're gonna get in touch with your own interview yeah I got you on Facebook Scott I'll hook I'll get with you yeah even you can go to your Facebook you know or you can go to metal thunder entertainment okay we'll do it yeah yeah he'll believe me he will regale you with stories look at he's also got this oh yeah hold on I'm gonna show them your your Jason and the Argonauts the stuff I'm proud look at his Jason anyone he's got all the skeletons oh man Jason I got the priestess I got the guy that built the Argo with the Golden Fleece Golden Fleece that's an open song and he's got these little artworks and all the walking but you know if we show all your stuff now Scott then when you have your own show then you want to see I'm sure he's got more my partner when I buy stuff I can't keep it out of the box I have to open him up he's got resident evil in the other room he loves zombies which I'm sure you guys probably do too right we do we do indeed yes we do now let me add you something who can tell me the name of the track that Aska did about zombies long before the walking dead craze and all that stuff hmm you know I'll tell you the album tell me I'm a venture I know I know you know I know you know I know but I don't know right off him I can grab a venture it's right here actually I got it look at a major you tell me right there what's the track I've got five copies of a venture fantastic that is that is are they all CD or some vinyl I think I do have it on vinyl actually awesome I got about it so looking at the track listen I'm the eternal night no that's very good exactly it and it was now look at the year that came that album came out in 2000 the walking dead stand or later and it was all about you know a guy battling these zombie hordes saving the girl and you know he gets infected during the battle and the girl he saves says oh my god you know you risked your life to save me and you're affected and he looks down and goes I know but it didn't matter he wanted to save her you know so he put his own life I really is going to jeopardy to save the girl did you blow his brains out the song ended before we got there the song yeah the song ends before he gets that far but but I think it's great you know the whole concept of shimmery even when it's life or death you know in an apocalyptic and a post-apocalyptic zombie world this guy said I tried to get asked us on that show walking dead and it's like they were they only had the weird songs ever like yeah yeah we love metal where is nikatero he's a big metal head oh you see he should have should have used our music see we need to use your music cuz we need a good theme song yeah yeah we could write you know these copies of a Avenger I got I've got this copy and I got the original copy I got like I don't have one of the Carl now man they're probably valuable ain't I think this might be the most valuable CD there is right here the original that one that was 100% if I would have known back then I would have bought like a hundred copies of this thing and held on to them all these years yeah Danny said they were going for a thousand dollars they always do I was crazy they're expensive I don't like it one time it's over a thousand dollars behind on eBay was a dollars a euro no dollars wow um I've seen it I've seen it as I personally seen it for like 600 so man it's something that but you know it's uh it's kind of you know I mean it's amazing what some people will pay for rare music music music moves us right and this is what I remember y'all first when y'all was wearing the camo too that's when I first encountered you guys y'all are all camoed out and I thought that was cool well not just rare music good rare music yeah I mean I think it's also sometimes even if the music is not so great because I personally I think that that first album is not our certainly our weakest album in our catalog we weren't we didn't have the Van Halen effect where the first album was great kicking that yeah yeah I mean we were we started pretty rough you know yeah the reason they were camo was because you scared they were gonna get killed yeah but uh you know uh truly it wasn't our best but what happens is the band later became really good and now people want to pick up those early records after the fact the retro where I have them all now you know I'm from back then right you were an early adopter I was just like the old Pantera records people want the old ones now well yeah they tried to bury those but they didn't do a very good job actually have a cassette version of I am the night sitting over here in a stack oh shit I've got I've got that yeah that was actually an original it wasn't one of the remat redones you know they've got a bunch of the bootlegs on CD I had I had an album of projects in the jungle project yeah you did you sell a Danny I sold it oh wow it was done was done copies that he had signed over to Dean Zilinski from Dean guitars and so I contacted one of those on a graph people they offer me a thousand dollars for it so I sold it I would have tuck that definitely the fruition of Danny's album definitely has some good tracks uh don't the force I've always loved and and could you do this to me is still an excellent song much better than the remake that came years later but that's just my opinion it was and we graduated too right here immortal yeah my I actually liked that album a lot I like it is a lot is really good and this one I think y'all really probably should put back in the print we got the first album but a mortal should come out there are some good shit on a mortal really is I agree the mortal you know we went for a real Rick Rubin style production on that and I think we and it's just the band improved by leaps and bounds and also I think we learned from the maybe the mistakes of the first album one not to do on the second album and it came out leagues better than that first it definitely did when you tour for three months at a time you can't help it get better you can't help but that's true and we did we we started touring right off on the first album you know in 92 we went on our first overseas tour and prior to that we've been playing everywhere and anywhere that would have us we were playing but immediately in 92 we started going out internationally and it changed things so are all their interviews over the phone or the podcast podcast podcast and YouTube we're also have we have a YouTube show which is actually starting to pick up steam now yes all your pretty faces will be on YouTube yes they will I mean you won't have people in a studio to talk to you no no you get your own home so sit right here you can talk to all this stuff you see your naked mother stuff I want to get your naked yeah hey I got pants on we have it we have an R rated show so we are we're we're not child friendly even though I have the grandkids on the show all the time full view yeah yeah gifts for you guys if you if you're meeting in person whoa oh man look at this he's got gifts for you this is what they call an herb grinder ooh is a personalized herb grinder with more metalheads I made one of them but you know what if I don't ever see you guys in person I ain't good for you you'll see him in person you'll be shit out of luck see him in person showing 20 but show the ask a show ask a ask a he's here since we're going over the albums album to a mortal is definitely got some some kick and ass songs on it you know I can't help it but I still like the damn song how long even though you know I could tell you the story of that song I wrote that with when I first came to the United States and I went to El Paso to start a band with a guy that played drums with me in Panama in my band of Panama his name was Robert Nelson Robbie Nelson okay no Nelson brother no not the baby not the brothers you know I can't let you love and I think she's not those guys yeah yeah I thought I wrote that song for you know but but but how long Rob and I wrote that together and it was actually the first time I ever stepped into a recording studio was with this guy that Rob and I joined his band that he's played you know and I joined him as a bass player and he had three or four songs that he needed to that he was going to record and and then he goes I need one more song so we we said well we've got the song we wrote call how long and we presented to him and he was yeah that'll be that'll do that'll be great so my first time in the studio was as a bass player playing bass on the song that Rob and I written called how long and then it resurfaced years later as an ass yeah on the immortal on the immortal it was actually on our it was also made an appearance on our first demo when asking the demo it was a three four song demo and how long was on it that's why when we re-recorded it for immortal we call it how long 94 94 I always wondered that I never asked you that I was like okay that's weird makes it you know it was a take on you know I've kissed it Strutter 78 right yeah exactly because in seven you know in 73 they'd recorded Strutter on their first album then revisited it for the double platinum release well and that was kind of like you know I was my thinking we had done how long on our demo and now revisiting it for the immortal album and I think if I'm not mistaken how long was the bonus track no oh oh how long was on the CD version of the album and then number five that we talked about earlier before we started recording the show number was the bonus track on the cassette version okay that's cool yeah if you wanted well if you wanted all the songs you had to get the cassette version and the CD version good marketing right there and we had the cassette was available in two different colors red and blue we were Beatles yeah we were doing it yes we were doing our own taste of of early you know Iron Maiden style guerrilla marketing you know yeah I see I'm here it I now see this is how long 94 CD bonus track number five available cassette only so yeah yeah if you want it there's some little useless trivial that you didn't know and then you know many people unless they have the record most people don't know that either or around back in these days yeah but if somebody did not first I go oh shit I only bought the cassettes I didn't buy the cassette so I'm screwed oh no you know a Keith recently found a little stash that we moved to his house he recently found a little treasure trove of cassettes that he had it wasn't very many and they may be gone already but he found a few and they were on the merch table at the last show or two yeah I didn't see those either they were there they might have sold already they might have sold there's a great place it's in Tennessee south tree oh dude you're gonna get bread all happy now you're sexy man shit well no I'm not done this is getting this is getting better just just know oh no you've done one bread over dude I love I love crazy fuckers like you I also got a bonus here to change the subject back this is actually some outtakes from a show y'all did it I forget what club it might be maybe it was the rock somewhere in Deep Elm that Bob had recorded and yeah Asian invasion tour down yeah I think that was like a 96 if I'm not mistaken I played the rock with China blue we opened up for what were they called nobody cares you know what a bad that show firehouse was the name of the man so do we ask open up our house you remember that yeah and then there somebody just died in that van recently seeing her CJ snare passed away but he was not in firehouse at the time of his death which is sort of weird I did not know the original base player the original base player for firehouse is now the drug of a base player for a striper yes he's in striper yeah he's very much striper that Timothy Gaines they've had issues with that guy for a long time so they finally got rid of him and yeah brought in the firehouse bassist I heard rumors that the Timothy never actually played on on album I don't think he did yeah I think that's been pretty much confirmed he didn't play on the albums yeah the manager for the band he's mentioned striper striper try and hit no joke big time yeah he put in a banging big time you know you were telling me that you thought he this guy must be okay no I was the members manager it was their old manager a gentleman by name there I don't think he was gay at all I think he was just a really cool guy he we played is venue in as Banshee in with Banshee it was a gay he was a gay boyfriend what there you go what a gay boyfriend great guy and even if he was gay he was a fantastic dude I really have a lot of respect for Dave Rose um he you know when I found out he was a striper's manager I told him what a fan I was of the band and I'd been for years and in the early days they used to send me newsletters all enough and he goes all right well send me your address I'll get you a couple t-shirts and I'm like he's not gonna send you sure enough yeah within the you know after the tour was over a month two months later boom I had a couple of striper shirts in the mail from the guy and he always kept in touch he was always very cool and but I don't think it had any sexual overtones yeah I think Scott is putting these things in his head and you saw him laying on the bed early yeah getting bread all worked up there look at that look at that Brett just don't get just don't get us kicked off fucking YouTube that's all I ask yeah talking about kicked off um man Bob and Rachel and George got everybody kicked out of Jay Gilligans for like what ten years the long time yeah just finally got back to Jay Gilligans after a long break Danny can tell that story what Danny yeah Danny do let us know that story because I was semi involved in it always took no credit but I was I was agitating things all stems from a really nasty bam member girlfriend now we got kicked out we got kicked out because of Bob's sex show that me and George encouraged highly actually that was the final straw but he was already upset yeah we're already in trouble I think I remember that Danny the coffee is to you yeah because of there are former our former guitar player Darrell learned how to girlfriend it you know hated him being in the band and hated him doing shows hated him getting attention from I remember choking out another girl you know going up to her are you looking at my man so railing this girl she killed her in the bathroom and then she wound up throat punching there are guitar players all different girl this is a she just had a she had a propensity for doing these things and she had a she was management problem that definitely yeah I remember that chick yeah we will I'm a we won't talk about her anymore because it's no sense in every play no let's not yeah but she's you know he left I think he left everything having to do with you know she's causing him it's a shame we lost the brother over it and then they went on and subsequently got married and stuff but what are you gonna do man it's rocker all right I miss Daryl to this day but you know he chose his life so and you know with us a solid 10 years I've got nothing bad to say about the guy me either I love Daryl still to this day so and no he's not the one that become a preacher that would be Darren everybody confused Darren and Darryl over the years that's it yeah okay can you imagine we had we had a Damon a Darryl a Darren right yeah yeah I mean a lot of DA's in there a lot of DA's in the house I remember not for whatever reason I just remember Darren just really vividly he had a presence to him back then there was a bit of thought he would end up being a preacher or whatever the missionary or whatever the hell he is yeah he became a preacher there for a while now he's a I think he's a telecom salesman okay well now he had a song called Jesus Christ is Lord that was on I think Apple music or iTunes for a while well it's gone my my Jesus my Lord my friend yes that they're there and right there Paul McCartney yeah Darren he actually was that you got him all he's got him ok George let's hear your yoko ono impression oh yeah I think Scott I think Scott taken over this interview man right we're gonna definitely have Scott on the show your book dude your booked yeah man he says I had him up I've got a lot more Aaron's story I know you do he's got a lot of stories that's for sure all men's stories he's got oh so many stories but let me tell him about Darren real quick up there and everybody wants to know about Darren what they're you know he was the co-founder for YouTube let's see if we can get a picture there's Darren right there well he was a very very handsome and we did got a picture Darren you want to look at it Scott there you go but he he you know he just he decided that you know he came to a point is I've he had found God and I always say that he played a role in it that it was not to do with a job more than God I don't think so because I don't think either I think Dan's just making up shit well I think Dan feels responsible because he does I think he feels guilty is more the word yeah because he got Darren a decent job yeah but Darren always worked jobs and always been in the band but I think it was a it was a combination of things one of which was you know what was he was going through his personal life at the time a divorce you know and he had a new job at the time where he met you know his new wife his second wife and then I think that also the fact that you know she took him to church and cleaned him up you know quote unquote and he became a born in Christian because at that point when we were writing the songs that were to be on on absolute power Darren started bringing on in these songs that were all very they were they could have been on a stripper record you know yeah in other words they were in nature they were they were songs like you know the the cross of light and you know things like that you know just these songs that were these inspirational type songs you know very Christian in nature and without being overtly so but it was Christian it was it was so the degree that we certainly could tell yeah and we're like no that's not very cool I mean it's great but it's not for us I mean that'd be great for striper or for a res band or petra but not so much for us so we would take those songs that he would come in with you know cross the line and call them you know change them and I've changed the lyric content and call it queen of goths and things like that you know just yeah keeping them and more in line with the kind of less yeah the songs we wanted to tell the tale of the stories we wanted to tell and he just he didn't like it he wanted to I think he was he was ready for to make the bigger change and I always thought Darren was always more pushing the lighter side of aska too and he was in the band you know more the more I would dare say the glammy or songs always more commercial pop yeah more pop metal that's what I would call it I had nothing glam these days but you know what I mean more poppy he was on he was more on the pop side and he was um you know I think that was his emphasis um in the band and it was something that we were moving away towards some of the Keith and I had made a cautious decision to move away from and that he was that's I mean you know that's funny because that's what sort of turned me away from aska was was that side a little bit because I was getting more into thrash metal and shit like that so when y'all started turning back into you know being a heavier band that's what drew me back into the fold actually right yeah a lot of um I think you know and it's a reputation we kept for a long time was because um DFW is not known for its pop bands you know it was it was uh one of more you know everybody was especially that time everybody wanted to be and was trying to sound like and join the Pantera band wagon you know where everybody was uh pushing in that direction the band you know it real heavy and real you know now real you know kind of remember those times metalish um and um and we were just kind of you know doing you know the traditional style stuff but you know we'd always saw ourselves that we would do we would approach metal in any style that we've moved to because we had three guys in the band that we're seeing you did that's another thing I was going to bring up aska did not have a lead singer y'all had three lead singers in those days jack very good like he me Keith and Dan were all singing in the band but uh he um we had three guys singing and so you know it wasn't unusual for us on an album to one song sounded like docking and the next song sounded like accept and this takes me to nine tongues y'all's next release and this is a perfect example of what you're talking about exactly and the stalker is just like fucking thrash metal and then there's little sister so yeah like uh an early kiss uh rock-a-roll pop-new talking about trans trenty rb dancing with sister i think ask has been known always been known for the variations on on their albums agree danny definitely you know what um it was at that time during nine times where we had our grand awakening so speaking because um and it's where and it's where um the bush came to shove because um i mean oh we just lost Scott oh no he's gone he went out the floor but uh but um you know we we kind of took a a term it was that was our our moment that i think changed the band and shifted it in the direction that it's in now i definitely agree i did all the reviews that were coming in for the for the album you know our local you know crowd was bigger than ever i mean it was you know we had massive crowds that would follow us everywhere we would go but on the on the scene on the international scene and stuff the reviews that were coming in for that record said man these guys what are they we just can't pigeonhole them we don't know if there's this kind of music or this kind of music because we were so all over the place um music you know and um dinner dinner is when you get dessert because we got child dinner okay well dinner okay dinner but um it's not kill us chondra is the song that really put y'all into the direction y'all needed to go i still love that that's probably my favorite ask a song actually all right you know what ask eric about killer because when eric around the time he was joining the band he said something about killer chondra which i found found to be a very high compliment eric and haven't heard from me tell us the killer chondra story yeah i just i thought that song was like had a very kind of radio friendly mass appeal that if it would have been i forget my exact words at the time but you know if it would have been on the radio or on the right label at the time you know the band would be millionaires because they would have had some big big hit major hit song that would have put them out there with you know big bands you know it just was it was real catchy i thought and um so yeah i think that's what i said something like that and uh we still get now we do something add a little queen's right kind of flavor to it and uh pretty it up and do some some progressive stuff with it you know because it's got a real open sound oh my god yeah like playing that song live yeah yeah killer chondra is great and it is it's got the catchy but it's definitely a good metal song hard rock metal song so you know it's interesting so many people have liked that song over the years from like the promoter good friend you know folger um the promoter for sword brothers festival in Germany he always said George killer chondra is my favorite song for you with written and please make the song you know and uh yeah i'm like i'm amazed that people from you know all walks of life that are metal ads really seem to gravitate towards that and then the one guy in Germany that steams ahead of issues with you we won't even talk about this at all that song stays current it does stay current it definitely does oh i watched the video of us uh playing uh killer chondra at store brothers last night when you're right danny that song always seems to stay current i watch even i watched the whole set i found i mean it just popped up on youtube it was ask it sore brothers and i watched it and it's got it's got like eight songs and that's playing it at sore brothers in Germany this was from like 2009 it was i mean no it was yeah 2009 it was awesome i mean it sounded down again yanny watches that uh he watched that between uh bouts of his uh his porn chat porn tube i'm an investor a dollar of media and i think they banned most of the pornography from texas uh i saw that our attorney general uh kin paxson banned everything um but you know what you can still get x videos how can you yeah you can get you like you know drugs are illegal you can still get drugs you can still get four i feel you danny yeah he fills you yeah yeah right once the fella and scott over there more than anybody though you know what though you said i mean it's some of my feeling on scott yeah but he stood up quick danny you almost made me choke on that one right i had to get my clothes back off me man you're gonna ruin my reputation here and i'm i'm i'm known as i'm known as a ladies man in dfw and he certainly are george god is pulling down the drawers like lay suggestively on the bed you know you're gonna the whole new side of george call right here on the evil never dies podcast come on george we know it's making you moist oh looky there this is my name i haven't got a this is my our agent this is the out of books our shows somebody has to take one for the team right so much i never took one for the team fuck you george you gave one you gave one for it though yeah i gave one for the team i've even got the six tons epig that that's how much of the shit i got everything i've ever done i guess no you are the reassettes i don't know cassettes you are the real sons i don't have one you you know i yeah you do danny no i don't have the six tons i got one uh i i do have that compilation that we did though i got that it's right there i think is that the one yeah that's one i got i got yeah uh electric bass me yeah we were on quite a number of uh compilations i think just has a different version of freedom for it was actually on the album he playing it jason played it on the album but that's right you played this one yeah that's that's actually got danny danny's version you know in a danny um he appears on the absolute power album uh playing on uh her ghost with danny's right one song let's all being we are we are going to be doing that as well in the near future preacher who played on the other song here hey jason when jason joined he did avenge our absolute power but we like danny's version of uh of or both the names better so we kept danny's version danny is on the her ghost i remember that yeah he played the her ghost so we kept his version on the album and then uh and then on that electric bassman dot com there's danny's version of freedom on that record well actually prefer that version of freedom you know it's more um it's not as produced it's very raw and i just thought it fit better you know what that kind of funny is is whenever i joined asca i had to learn all of jason's parts for the songs that we played yeah but then whenever jason came back and did absolute power he had to learn all my part he did yeah so he came he did a long thing but and then uh we got then we brought danny back and danny's been there ever since he keeps trying to escape but we won't let him we've got him chain at the end i remember somebody was not very happy when when danny left and jason came back but i won't name any names it was it it was me remember i wasn't very happy with that i was not happy because i thought danny fit the band something i mean i love jason's work he did a phenomenal job on a avenger but i just thought danny fit the band at the time so much better he was always really nice to meet you my face yeah well jason was a great guy we love this it's a good dude yeah i still couldn't contact with jason actually so this day yeah we're all still friends with him he's on all our face works which is more than we can say for some other for right we won't mention that guy yeah but um you know uh we we won't even give it to him the way i look at it he'll be erased but but jason yeah jason's good people well i just thought danny fit the band better and that's just my opinion and i saw play more ask a show during that time frame than anybody we get it wrong but don't you know it's the one before that um but you know um and let's give some love to your brother dam and the original drummer too so my brother is a little bit warmer and he still comes out to shows and whenever he's out there we let him we invite him up for a walk home because we're happy that he comes you know exactly i'm always happy when jason comes up and i mean uh uh dayman comes up and plays yeah you know former former members that have come and seen the band after they've left the band beryl he's come out a time or two um dayman comes out he's come out a lot um when he left and after a little while and between between when he left we came back he he never he always came out and played that was the worst the times when keith was out of the band for me yeah it was pretty rough wasn't it i wasn't a fan of of of one might even say his name dave oh dave was a good guy but not a fan he is dave dave is is still a uh a really good friend of the band i know but he he was talking about lisa he filled in he filled in because he's playing it's really really difficult on bass oh i know nobody can replace keith's bass and that just keith is really yeah that that's hard to do and he didn't do it he did a good job with it came in and he was able to play the stuff and and and so uh that was he they really helped us out yeah so yeah we have we've got nothing but praise for dave and um a good words for him and and we wish him the best with millennial rain which isn't bad as the christian band signs of christian label and um you know every time i think every time striper or petcher any christian band comes to town now thank you they open yeah oh yeah so um you know but of course you know keith was original member he's been on every album we've played including the new one so it was i mean clearly keith needed a break when he'd left though he didn't needed the break from it yeah and when he came back it was you know it was like okay he never left yeah it was like okay now you're back let's let's get the album done you know and uh we did and uh we're very happy about that um we actually pretty quick i mean i it really i'm still that was the quickest show ever got an album done i think but what y'all got the moving on it we recorded it during the covid lockdown so we we'd be concentrating really we had nothing else going on so we were able to really put it all together you know i uh covid was uh certainly was a blessing for asca in the sense that um you know cloven hoof that i i was still in at the time you know with covid hit um we had all kinds of plans there was a cruise ship booked and there was more festivals booked in europe and more shows and all this stuff that was going to keep me busy and when covid clearly all that stuff went away so um so and there was no more tours no more shows no more you know and since they were in england i was in america you know here we were i want to close the door a little bit you know i've never i've never officially been let go from from cloven hoof i didn't think you had yeah your have i officially been let go of omen i mean it's pretty clear i'm not you know yeah i remember that when when george left omen i was like i don't think danny left so i was right about that uh you know lead since since me a message almost every day on facebook really yeah there's a tour date so book shows and please it's not that watch it so they already got it they already got it boy um but you know what uh danny you weren't officially um you say you weren't officially let go but i think when two albums appeared without you on the drums i mean that's well i kind of got the hint but you were still the us tour drummer it said but it was one of those albums it was not financial though it wasn't anything to do with no it wasn't at all no it's like this man if you uh if your girlfriend never breaks up with you but you see her out with another guy you're now you officially broke up you're broke up bro but yeah doesn't you don't need a note there doesn't have to be handwritten notice but what happens if they go into the us tour and they call danny there you go oh that's an approach there you go that approach many people you know they're just gonna do it all the time they ask them to do it because in fact i you know do you know have you heard the term the term long rolling you know rolling yeah well like you're standing on a lot like those cartoons where the guy's on the log on the river and he keeps walking walking walking walking along but you're not going anywhere you're not moving just you're just doing this to keep afloat right you just let's call the lumberjack now it's not a lumberjack but you're walking you're walking on that log and not going anywhere and uh i think um i think unfortunately and not maybe i'm wrong danny and hopefully not but i think that this is what lee does with you he keeps you on the log he keeps you walking on the log oh yeah he can't tell me oh no i'm i'm not i'm not under any mis you know interpretation of it i know i know under any illusion but yeah i think he does that to you know so he can have a football he keeps him good with me because he doesn't want to close the door to the view that right and he can do it not true or you just got booked all the cloven hoof north american tours three hey i gotta truly say i i i i have no ill feelings at all with cloven hoof omen might be a different story but you know i don't know what happened with omen we had a great time with with cloven hoof yeah definitely and then three great albums with cloven hoof excellent albums me with one and uh you know actually we're traveling so much with omen i mean we had a good time with omen i mean it was it was a lot more difficult but oh yeah well yeah kenny was crazy that's we got to see uh we got to see things that we wanted to see and we got to see a lot of things we didn't want to see but we got yeah that was a pretty pretty interesting time is i think with with okay pal they tell you sometimes don't meet your heroes right they say that they say that yeah that's true i've learned that i've learned that personally yeah it's not always what it seems and i was you know as a high school where i was a fan in high school i was a fan of i was a fan of both omen and cloven hoof i was you know i was a metalhead so i was a fan of when you joined when both of y'all joined both bands i was like this is just really cool man i was excited you know you know in a second whereas danny joined omen and cloven never really being a fan or knowing of them he just he just got the the gig because he was a good drummer yeah me i like i was a fan of these bands i had albums by these bands and so for me it was like wow you know i was kind of had the starstruck um whereas danny wasn't and uh i was in the band but i knew any songs i was i was in the band before i knew any other songs really first time i heard them was whenever i had to learn them except for omen yeah George played cloven hoof and i got good who is this you know i mean cloven hoof and then we did sore brother still an animal played a few songs with them and then you know we wound up we wound up being in the band for you all right so i was in the middle yeah um danny how come here was you with asco when you joined as far as the songs because i remember when you first joined it seemed like you would just boom right there and you knew everything in the book we were that's going back a long way but i remember remember them first shows didn't we do we did how long was i in the band George two two weeks two three weeks oh we played a show yeah pretty quickly it i know y'all had auditioned so many drummers and then i think you told me George we got our drummer i'm like well who is he's when you see him you're going to know and i'm like okay and yeah you were you were just there danny when we hit it was perfect we played all those the dish you were the perfect fit we had a we had a lengthy audition process for drummers we tried out i mean everybody and their brother in this town um and uh it wasn't until until danny walked in that i was just like oh this is it's done where the search is over because this is the guy i mean he's got the chops he's got the he was the only guy that could emulate Jason's licks and and that's them in playing with power and finesse and think it was three songs yeah three songs yeah before i before i said uh you got that's it that's it we're fired yeah it was it was funny too because tonight our policy was that you know we weren't making any decisions on the spot we would try somebody out and then sleep balled in discussing among ourselves and then you know allow you know the next people to come in and stuff right so and that way we didn't hurt anybody's feelings they didn't go home you know whether they got it or not we were going to talk about it afterwards but in danny's case you know we tried out so many guys and there were some you know well there was uh the drummer from darryl's old band uh what was his and uh pat pat yeah i think he was telling everybody he was in asking yeah he was he was but he was he wasn't exactly he was telling people that but no he we hadn't selected him yet yeah no that would have been a disaster i'm afraid i don't even know where that guy's at so no offense to him wherever he is he's gotta go see you later danny what's up uh just working all day fiction go uh master mate yeah yeah you know he's fixing your jam i don't know what he did maybe yeah stuff he's got to do man but uh let's see i'll see you too danny all right way over there is never um absolute power and avenger real quick because those are like your two iconic records so that would be like an entire episode major is iconic too everybody loves avenger in fact in europe everybody that's the one they compare everything to you know the poor after or since or in the future they will all things will be compared to the avenger it will you're right about that so but anyway you ask what you actually george discovered his voice i agree especially on crown of thorns that that was where i'm like what the fuck you know i didn't know george could do that leather leather to yeah that's true and that's another favorite and i love the way i'll do it with keith now because that was originally dairn i think that that was doing those saw the singing on on falcary was it not it was me and dairn were yeah uh and keith fits it perfect you know when you say about me discovering my voice that's very true because up until before that point i never considered myself a vocalist i was a vocalist by necessity because we couldn't find good vocalist that would say that a lot of years ago and i was always like you got to be kidding yeah no i i was i was a background singer i had a concept you know i could carry notes but i never felt i was really good i was i was okay i was good for background vocals but um uh through through necessity when we could you know we had singers coming in trying to dictate terms of how the band was going to be you know a lot of singers get this prima donna attitude where you know i'm the bad i'm the bad i'm better than anybody it's like dude you're just one of the guys and you can't i mean and uh you know bands will make a lot of concessions for a good singer they will they'll make a lot of concessions but you know sometimes there comes a point where the line is pushed and it's too far it's a bridge too far and we're like no man let's not do that so um well that happened with the abbot brothers with phil honestly you're having with a lot of looking kidnap that band well i'll tell you tell you a story i you know whenever i was approached by george uh you know i had been given offers of playing and i didn't really find anything that i wanted to do you know i i told myself i said look it's got to be something that i really want to do or i'd i'd be happier staying home clean with records you know so what i mean buddy mind told me to get my number to somebody and then the next thing i know is george contacted me and said he was going to send me some songs and see if i was interested and i listened to it and immediately i was struck by it i said i love this stuff i can i want to do this and it was george's voice but it was also it was crown of the first time i heard crown of thorns i just fell in love with it and that's the reason why i wound up auditioning for asca it's because of george's voice and and uh the music you know that's a good that's a good note yeah crown of thorns is another sort of like killer shandra just an iconic asca song yeah it's uh it was it's good stuff um and i i loved um you know i was always as a you know teenager i loved the movie x caliber and uh so i thought man this will be a great song for that because that speech at last law gives king arthur um at the battle of the bridge there um to me it's iconic and it is and you know it's iconic as a part of the film but also if you hear um what he's talking about you know i pledge all that i still own within this metal skin so it's like man that i was not only does that speak to the whole king arthur legend but it also if you take it in another context in a double entendre sort of what it speaks to being a metalhead you know it does you're right about that this music to the metal to the you know this time and i give all that i own you know to within this metal skin you know muscle bone blood in the heart that pumps it it's for metal you know i mean it's i can um so i don't mean a war there because i know me and you both they're huge manowar fans they've got this day i know people a lot of people like the ridicule in these days i don't know why they do but i know either uh they do that with kids they do we know that we do that with successful bands they do people like the part of them and bands that did well but for me i mean they'll always have a place in my heart i love and and i love ross the boss and and i did too ross is great i wish i was still in manowar but hey it tell you a story you know we uh we became friends with rhino the the drummer for manowar i like rhino yeah and uh he heard about holla and he said that by holla was more manowar than manowar fans that's probably true yeah i mean in the last few years i love manowar but they have kind of went into the kind of a hole you know the the one guitar player got thrown in prison for pornography child pornography yeah the the long hair red hair yeah logan i think his name was no i don't claim it don't claim it i just saw rhino i just saw rhino at the last name show rhino's a damn good drummer yeah i took him over to bosphorus symbols i'm introducing to the guys and i don't know if they got it all worked out and everything but they were wanting but uh but anyway he sat down and he started playing for him and everybody was staying around with their job or not oh yeah he's amazing he might have been the best drummer manowar had honestly i think so so um that was yeah so venture was um you know just uh it was the album that really put y'all into a sphere is what i would call it it's the album that we we listened to the what the criticisms were in the press about our music and and it was the that we were too diverse isn't it funny now because everybody now it's like oh it's like diversity diversity diversity but they really don't because y'all freaked it and yeah yeah they have an abandoned diversity we're different styles of music yeah well we were too diverse and then we went to so we just said okay let's kind of let's let's let's rail it all in together let's bring it all to where it's it sounds like one band one like like all these songs who come from one band instead of a uh you know instead of a showcasing of all of our you know influences and still think this is the one that did it the best this is my favorite ask album right here add to power i love that record and that was a continuation of adventure and of course it was yeah because it's daring though because daring wanted to continue to do pop and things that were more in his heart and um and we were just we were now doing more of the kind of stuff that i was writing and the stuff that you know Keith was leaning towards and um so you know you've heard that saying that you know which wolf wins in your heads the one that you feed the most right there's a wolf called love there wolf called eight well in our band we had a wolf called pop and you know more commercial wolf called you know a bit heavier but remain maintaining melodic ideas that that you know are still uh commercial stop us and we fed that well we we ended up making a band decision to just go with me you're rid of the three singers just let you know me locked up uh oh we locked up on george yeah you're back now i hear you guys yeah you're back your picture your picture is staying still well okay in my back yeah you're in the back you know you're we can hear you all right good um i hear smiling yeah that's good get him with a smile even smile um but no yeah it was um you know it was just or for the band to go in that direction and um and certainly i it was never our intent to just say okay nobody else will ever sing again you know the only george can sing because as as you you may know on the new record Keith sings a song yeah and that's it's good too yeah it is i remember even then y'all were doing like um vigilante um and they're in the shows and Keith was still singing we'll be doing it again eventually yeah so you know like he was ever silenced he was still you know he was still singing live absolutely and it was just we just you know we just had to establish ourselves and then we could go to kind of get back to do whatever we wanted and now um you know i hope to certainly for our next album the album follows nice track i hope to have another Keith or song or two on there or he's uh vocalizing it if if we can make it happen you know um you know of course the song has to be good that's to be great material we're not just we don't just want to sing a song just okay you sing one even if it's substandard we want him to sing something good but i i would love them because it's part of it's part of it's what makes aska aska you know it's what uh it does it does it's out you know me it's i mean Keith has been singing since the band's first album so he's saying on the first he's saying on the second he's saying on third and he didn't sing on the the next three but you hear his voice on on fire eater um he narrates uh one of the songs there uh the last reader would be our next next in the line here too he's he's harmonies are getting more pronounced they are i i agree so uh and uh fire eater was danny's first official full album with the band you know he appeared on the absolute power which was the album prior his first full album was uh was fire eater um and um unfortunately um what's his name um darryl left the band and christmas is going on guitar from france he was a frenchman yes chris has actually been on our show before so chris is a great guy and we still this is a really good guy he's a sweetheart even though even though we're not all together or anything there's certain certain people that are still thank chris is definitely part of the family for sure he's definitely he's definitely after chris you know yeah love chris to death yeah we've seen him at the uh Texas primary we did yeah and we took the picture with with chris he's all about he's all about that and uh chris messes me the other day he goes and braza i have written a new song i will send it to you very soon you know so he you know he he keeps in touch you know yeah chris is never going to go away he'll always be be a part in some what i love that album he put out man that's a good album oh are you going to love this corporate yeah that's a great album i heard he's very important we brought him in a great player you know he sent us a a new song he did that was uh it used um uh what's a middle eastern instrument i forgot what it's called the tar he put he he's got some the tar on there yeah it sounded sounded pretty good for what i heard oh now we want yes but anyway chris definitely throws in some of the yingwhee sounds on on on this album yeah um yeah he's a he's a great player man he's a good player he did a good job you know um but you know i i think i was you took my message from facebook when i said that the new album is a lot better than fire eater and it take nothing away from fire eater it's a good album it just uh you know dead again is one he is another it's just an iconic ask a song for sure it's got that ask a feel to it just write in the song and the video is fucking awesome the video is fucking awesome here's what we'll say about the official line and i know he feels exact same way with fire eater um it was a it was a good album great songs but it just wasn't focused you know it wasn't focused no a little bit too all over the place um and initially when we started fire eatery it was gonna be we're gonna just do a quicky revision some uh some of the older that yeah y'all we're gonna do it was like gonna be like an EP was it not tv with just some uh some of the older songs reimagine you know like um for example uh harlot of union which was you know could you do this to me reimagine yeah yeah it's definitely a reimagine yeah and angelo was like a killer genre reimagined it was yeah you know so it was it was these kind of things you know and and then we just decided we we decided ah let's just do an album yeah let's just do the you know we're deep into it let's finish the album let's just do it let's do a regression song red sale i still play to this day that song is fucking epic right there yeah that was what i wrote with uh Alejandro Rasmussen from Panama and um he was he did a fantastic job on that he played you know all the guitars but still still those highs George did on the vocals are just amazing they are amazing but yeah so that was the problem with uh with uh firefighters a little bit disjointed um you know it was a good album you know the band was going through a lot of changes like you said Darryl had left and and Keith i think left right after the album came out so sort of a disjointed period for Asuka it was it was uh you know at that point it was uh i mean i'd do a lot of social information we even continue the band and Danny telling me somewhere he's like as long as me and George are here Asuka's never going down Danny was Danny was true to the Asuka flame to the end there and unfortunately he he'd had other things he had to do or he would have been included too exactly like i said i think he needed a good break and he got it now it's like he never left again but i'm just i'm glad he left after the album was recorded right yeah yeah it's the main thing unlike some people who just disappear and never heard from again it's so weird record record something and then disappear and in such an excellent job on it too i mean he did a great job and that takes us to our current day which is Night Strike the latest Asuka album yes yes and let's let uh well i you know um i was gonna say well yeah go ahead um Night Strike it's uh it's right you want to jump in on this a bit i love this album man thank you it's absolutely yeah it's great when i first uh the night i got it from the show because i didn't pre-order it i wanted to actually buy it at the show which i have these weird you know back to the past all i that's wanted to hear this thing i know you played me a few tracks over the years i think when you're recording it but i wanted to hear it fresh right from the cd and it blew me away it really did i even got my cd player and my truck fix just so i could listen he did bread got his cd player fix because i want to hear this thing he thought you know he george george produced it and he you know well and he but but he recorded it and it was i mean he just did such an amazing job did he do it in his studio that he just built that way well but not no i'm not a downward we didn't record it there we recorded it the one before because he you know he's studio has always been very mobile and and wherever he's living he sets up shop so we'd actually at a house and he thought he was going to be living it for a lot longer and then they sold that yeah there's one or two something special Brett does look at that Brett oh man puffy fucking nipples oh my fucking god you made me snort you made me snort we have we just set up and and uh we just took time and we we were kind of uh it was kind of funny because normally traffic's really bad getting over there and there was nobody on the road at all during covid yeah yeah it was so we go down out and it is just we we did it and we got the tracks done actually pretty quick you know it really came together and the band was yelling you know we were we were in our percent everybody was uh and you know that was only the opening an act there's still more I'm not chilling there right now oh my god we're gonna get kicked off fucking YouTube I sort of got oh you got us kicked off or talking about uh Brett got us kicked off once yeah I did I I reviewed the band carnivore it was carnivore carnivore album got us kicked off for like a minute because the album covers a vagina with teeth and told the truth the only travesty is the whole thing was do you realize that that we got eric in the band how long George two weeks after we'd sent the artwork for it yeah that is a travesty I would love eric to be he would have been on it you know yeah well yeah I'll tell you you know eric uh he missed all the good lines and stuff for the new album but we still at least we managed to get his name in there thanks listen to very we managed to stick him in there you know he's at the very end I see that yeah well let me tell you something he's the stuff he's played with this off the new album is it's spot on I mean it fits in perfectly and not only that but eric even though he's only been in the band now for you know a few months um he's already sent me numerous ideas for songs and when we can let uh eric you know talk to eric since he's you know kind of been sitting there with nothing to say uh because of all the history stuff but go ahead and ask questions um about those songs and uh and about his when he meant asking for the first time and and how he joined the band and all that stuff because I'm sure he's got a lot to say yeah all right let's hear let's hear it new guy yeah everybody wants to hear how you got here okay you got a good history behind you we know that all right um well am I am I on the screen because my little yellow boxes at show that you're on the screen right now all right all right all right so yeah I met the guys back probably the mid 90s we were my band at the time was Zilazi and uh we came up here we were playing at the rock and uh Louie said oh I want to put you on with this other real good band here ASCA I want to do a show with you guys together so um yeah we did the show and it was it was a great night and I still remember some details I remember I think they opened the show with Detroit Rock City and uh you know just some other random things about the night but so I've known the guys for a long time I mean 30 years you know we weren't like in touch every day but I've known up the band and been you know aware of their various things over the years I'm learning a lot today actually just from listening to the stories you know I didn't know you know a lot of this stuff or hear a lot of stuff but yeah I've had my own path I was in in Hellstar I was a touring member for several years yeah Hellstar is a lot of Hell that's one of my favorite bands from James and I you know we did some cover projects and then he got me into Destiny's End the last year of the band unfortunately then it split up and he reformed Hellstar of which then I became a touring member with and we did one album during that time um the name of the band was Distant Thunder which was also a Hellstar was a nod to the Hellstar album of that name and uh beyond that yeah so Zilad Z kind of finished around 2000 and we had some other projects start and stop that didn't didn't go very far I was in a leather wolf for like a year and plates and yeah I played some tracks on the world asylum album and I was kind of funny earlier Danny was talking about how we got into into Aska and it was almost a similar thing for me with leather wolf that James was actually auditioning for them and uh that he said oh they're looking for guitar players so I recorded a couple of things and sent it in and they're like okay you're in the band just like boom you know it's like that so it's kind of funny but yeah around Christmas time last year I saw on Facebook that Aska was playing I'm friends with George on Facebook and posting his pictures of a gig was like a three-piece gig which I thought was weird they did a couple three-piece gigs yeah yeah and I just happened to notice it and um I saw somebody commented to George about hey are you guys a three-piece now or what's going on and he said no we're looking for the right looking for the right guitar player and you know we're taking our time and looking so I sent him a message and I just said hey I'd like to you know audition and um a couple days later Keith sent me sent me some tracks and also kind of funny with like what Danny said crown of thorns was the second track I heard and I just really drew me in the first one was Angels of War and and uh and then you know crown of thorns and I just between those two songs it just felt very you know felt at home to me I guess is the best way I could say it um just really a lot of the same kind of influences and style that that I've done and I've loved over the years and so uh yeah I learned a few songs and uh came up and did an audition with the guys and I think it went pretty well it felt pretty tight right off the bat um and uh I guess they were probably a little hesitant of me living in Houston because they had another previous guitar player that came from Houston that didn't remember that yeah things didn't go so good with him but uh anyway yeah came back from a second audition and I think we played two songs and George just set up just man your if you want it you're in you know that was it and uh that's kind of how it went from there we uh we had the first show you know we rehearsed a couple more times I think when we had one rehearsal George was late and we were playing uh we were playing the song from the new album and he said oh were you guys playing the new album like you thought we were playing the CD but we were actually playing the music you know the band was playing he said oh I heard it from outside I thought you guys were playing the CD so just you know gel together real quick and has come together feels very tight and very natural playing with those guys and um yeah so here we are a few months later getting ready to do our third gig that he wasn't going to be in after Derek was the guy yeah well you did a great job when we seen you live there at Jay Gilligan's that first night so uh yeah I appreciate it a little bit of pressure but you know I tried not to sweat it too much um you know I think it went pretty well it did it went great I was really really happy and we've just been getting tighter you know since then George and I have been able to work out some the more intricate guitar harmonies and some of the things that they do live you know the way they connect songs and some of the things like that you know the show part of it we've just been continuing to improve on that you know and yeah it's been going great everybody's welcome me like you guys all the fans you know it's been nice because like you said earlier welcome to the family and it's kind of been like that where you know you get married to someone new and all the their family just welcomes you with open arms you know so that's great yeah definitely and I'm talking about that um Darryl Norton and George had such a connection with the guitars and I don't think ask us had that since Darryl left and I think Eric you will bring that back I could just tell from that first show like you said y'all already starting to jail yeah Eric I agree with you Eric very reminiscent of how consistent Darryl was yeah so I look forward to what y'all become and hopefully we get more albums and not have to wait it's 10 20 years like we've been known to wait yeah material you know over the years yeah yeah yeah so you know some of it's older some of it's a little newer some of it just I came up with yesterday and uh said to guys some some stuff and say hey what do you what do you like what do you think would fit you know George what inspires you to sing a melody and um you know we'll just go through the stuff and see see what works into the band you know awesome sounds great yeah but Night Strike is definitely there is not a weak song on this album and there's nothing nothing that's why I really like I really like the lineup of the album too and it just seems to fit in the end but really for me the sleeper of the whole record is the why yeah sure you guys what are you eating dinner oh that was so good he's got salad and Danny I love that picture if you can see it there you look like Jesus I know that's awesome the one with the flathead yeah Danny it's Danny Danny why Jesus yeah yeah yeah Danny Danny got specs on huh you got your got your spectacles on there huh Danny yeah I want to be able to see the screen the sun went down he ain't got stripes on his face no more through the that's true your stripes went away but really good artwork too y'all did it yeah I can't wait for some t-shirts with the album cover oh yes the t-shirts are actually um being printed at a shop where my friend works just a small world and uh we'll have them we'll have them there at the show oh great that's okay we might we we might need a hookup for that yeah we just actually got our first professional shirts printed um first run for the evil never dies podcast and oh I want one of those where we got yeah they look really we did them in just white because this is the original shirt you know we've spiced up over the years but we did it all in white and actually white black and white and there was an asketty shirt y'all did a few years ago that was all black and white and it sort of reminds me of that shirt very good look Eric make sure you get the expert small for me yeah well okay the woman's the woman's one okay yeah so what the one with the little straps baby t- yeah spaghetti straps yeah daniel like spaghetti straps yeah Brett needs like a what size you wear Brett I wear a 2x god damn it yeah grow me and wear 2x danny looks like he wears a 2x i'm a 2x okay what about you Eric large extra large uh try to try to squeeze into a medium when i can a medium okay i'll bring you a large i think george is a medium we'll bring you all a shirt at the show okay yeah we can bring you what's he in george steak no chicken very good very good that was god cook that that's wife good okay you're safe then i think it looks good i mean it's judge white this mrs. glue mommy magoy hello she's a very low whole matter of skills looking me is like this oh he's a prick so you let me show you you got cucumber salad with the tomato looks great yeah you're making me hungry man chicken carol tomato so i think it's really good car we should we should have for those for me that the next show i believe is that correct Eric yeah oh yeah yes it's it'll be ready okay perfect george and asin george and asin recordings back and forth of guitar parts george and i send recordings back and forth to make sure i'm doing the parts right there's a calamari more songs i'm way i'm personally waiting for lee jin to come back well yeah lee jin's a good song y'all do need to bring lee jin back to one entertainment you were running in the bed and showing his butt he's got it brettsy yeah what he's showing it good is that the worst time anybody's eating dinner on the podcast uh yeah probably i'm might have um mine mine's actually getting cold in there oh no no i cook uh barbeque barbeque ribs on the grill oh if you got you have to do a show i'll put on a major display barbeque barbeque we're gonna hook you up scott i'm gonna get with you outgrids i got barbecue sausage god dang you're all making me hungry i know man i'm starving i ain't had nothing since breakfast so guys i'll tell you we can wind down but um let me say this before we go um i think we're very happy to have eric in the band like i said so eric is a very well pedigree very well known player throughout the texas uh scene um he plays in a lot of tribute bands and it's been in original bands and touring man he's done all that stuff that we've done he's done it before us independently of us so it's only natural it's a perfect fit yeah you know for me what is so easy about having eric is that you know when you get certain people in you're wondering are they going to be able to handle this if we have to travel are we going to be able to do this are they going to be consistent live are they going to be doing this but but eric we had none of those problems because as george had said eric's already done so we that that part of it we already knew there was no question about it it was just whether he was going to he was going to fit with us you know this class personality yeah and after the first time we played with him it was obvious he was going to so so well we're we're all thrilled to have eric well it's not often you find that either you know yeah yeah and the more you know the more y'all play the more it's going to mold that's why we took our time looking i think what i thought once we get to do an album together because i kind of feel bad for eric coming in at this point because we already had this album done by the time he came along so yeah brand new album he just yeah that that's true yeah i'm going to add two or or three because i mean it's basically done but um you know and you know of course who leaves a band when you put in all the work to do an album then just leave it's kind of seems kind silly but it happened we got eric we're thankful for that and um we're very happy with the way this new record turned out um it's it's definitely it's it's great i'm just telling you there's not a weak song on this album i think everybody was everybody was real creative it we came along pretty well i mean with it how fast we got it done and again i can't say anything more about the production that george and keep it on this record yeah you guys did a really good job on the mixing and stuff it sounds awesome yeah that might be the best mixed-ask album you've ever done i mean what can he be very humble right now because danny had a he played a hand and he was an assistant producer i think you're even credited as such as well because he played he had a hand in um how the thing ended up sounding as well we all three were produced by danny what you're on there danny we were all very much involved in a part of the process you know like in some bands you get some guys will show up the record they'll lay down their part and they go home they go to a card game like ace fraley or whatever they're doing here in this band everybody was emotionally involved in the project percent involved hundred percent of all where we were we were there to okay make it sound i guess do this add this then let's change this as i did we were everybody was in there all the all of our hands were in the um at least me Keith and danny were all all in you know we were there like i came in and i had a fresh set of years so i i heard a couple of things that that because they had heard so much of it i heard well i said what about this and it just so happens it really worked well so that's that's pretty much a fresh set of years but you know you had a fresh set of years and a fresh set of diapers yeah don't we all need a fresh pair of diapers we do buy it enough yeah i i think that you know this is a laid-back interview we're all friends so but but it just we're we're happy with the new record we are not really happy with it too i think it sounds great you guys did a great job and we ended on cd and we got on vinyl but a lot of people are asking when is this going to come on streaming or on apple music or iTunes you can buy downloads for it right now at the website there you go okay that'll answer answers a lot of questions okay that said www i don't even need to say that right it's askah.com/merch okay you know um we will have a new teacher like eric was saying at the show on uh july 20th and two weeks at jake billions of origin and which all people can also mail over in online um you can buy downloads so you can play digital tracks wherever bluetooth, stream it whatever um and you can do that at ask age perch and um and of course but then eventually we're gonna put it to do all of that the problem is once we do it there then spotify gets in and everybody starts screaming there and it's like um spotify is the devil i hate spotify they don't pay they just don't pay yeah they don't pay nobody's shit so we'll be doing more songs off the new record too it's just so we we didn't want to overload eric that makes sense yeah no i can't wait to hear some of these songs live yeah i know what would you like to do are you going to do the opus live i think i think uh the lie is uh that's probably my favorite song on the album for sure that that that that that was better for me to record i i'll be honest that was not that yeah oh that was that was like yeah what is it like nine minutes long wow i mean that that was all that was all me playing it that was not manipulated that was all me playing straight through at that time at that timing and it was it was very difficult and even though it's an easy beat it was very difficult to keep that timing you know well i think that's your guys's rhyme with the ancient mariner for sure yeah bret tell me that a few weeks ago we appreciate it we're glad that we're glad that it's had impact you know i was pleasantly surprised all of you leaving a call of my heart oh i was pleasantly surprised that that song got the um the attention right because it was um you know it was a very dirty type track you know very but you know which really takes up later in the summit i thought the story was so powerful yeah and uh four different things are just incredible on it and um and it was you know i mean i was just real happy with the way the old record turned out and and looking forward to just doing more i'm glad everybody's liking it i want everybody to get a copy if they can our autographs are always free at the show you can always come to the show and get your stuff signed for free but when everybody you know lives close to us or can make a show so for those people if they want to still sign there's an option to uh to buy the albums or whatever sign online um so that's a cool nice little thing that we decided to offer for the bands isn't it but but not to be confused with those bands and try to charge you at the show you know brah yeah oh it's gonna cost you an extra 20 bucks now man we will we'll never charge you at a show to send something well that unlike brit brit charges fifty dollars to sign an autograph it does you see trump the other day he was signing autographs and he goes every time he'd sign one he'd go here sell this he get a thousand dollars on eBay come on here sign this i signed it for you get a thousand dollars on eBay he would just be consistently throwing him out you know it's funny that's funny but yeah i i personally can't wait until love then oblivion gets really that's what i was about to say that's my favorite song i do believe i think that was that was lyrically that is genius and of course i know the story george so you know i kind of have an inside to it and i can relate to that story as well if there's any that could be on the radio sound uh yep fantastic and a solo stealer would be a great radio song too yeah it would and of course george's son he directed the video yeah he did a great job he did it was he did he was quite impressive man you know it's impressive um it's real interesting because after that uh my son and the girl in the video went on to do a commercial together for tuxico have you guys seen that yeah well it's like um we're kind of open at that any attention that that people see them on tuxico hey it's not the same couple in the ask a video or you know in that tuxico video or vice versa but i mean what are the what are the odds of that that a couple that you see in a rock music video and that been a commercial for a major oil company yeah a gas station well wide wide yeah they've got a part in a 15 second spot versions of that same commercial and they both appear in the video and that's that's quite incredible um yeah i well didn't he then he did he start his own production company too yeah yeah and they've been to um his companies work all over the world so far they've had shoots in uh Dubai and Jamaica this summer they're going to Hawaii um and of course all over the u.s as well and i think Canada um so yeah they're they're kind of an international corporation they're doing video um you know voiceovers commercials events weddings whatever it is they're called search films music videos um and they just do a really good job and if anybody wants to look into their work look at search i put a link to that too is he isn't thought about doing like any documentary or anything like that and we thought about that no that'd be quite interesting with it because i got ideas yeah dude the podcast has really brought the ideas out and bread it's it's been very impressive these last three years now that we've been doing this thing and we just been a slow build and now the youtube is starting to take off better so you know we really hadn't promoted this much we just sort of throw it out there you guys have the ideas who's got the financing that's what i want to know i guess video bob we want to be one if he wants to shadow us for a while he wants to shadow nobody so we went we went to rockle home with video bob and he shot our video there i remember that i don't know why i didn't go on that trip but that's probably working i should have we had a good time but one thing i wanted to know it's so still sort of a easter egg i noticed y'all do have a second guitar player in that video you see the guitar but you don't see the person so i caught that so i'm thinking that that must must be eric right there so you know what in my mind he's in the video i think what you're seeing is is because i've played so many different guitars on there is there's a second guitar in there and it don't show you it just shows the guitar so hmm i'd be proud of it i was running easter egg so you just playing a different guitar yeah i would just be playing a different guitar well it looked like you had another guitar player there if it would have had another one in there it would have been eric you know exactly yeah you know eric unfortunately eric came in right after the fact or he would have been there you just so you know this is actually the third time that's happened to me when i joined Destiny's End they had an album in the can that wasn't released and but i got in that one in time my picture was on the album but the the guitar player that left was credited then um i joined Leather Wolf they had the album mostly done but i did get a few tracks on that one and now now this so i'm used to it you're used to it you're you're a leatherable why yeah the uh for a year uh that Wade Black was the singer on the world asylum album and i was in it you know around the time that Wade did and then after a year the original singer Michael Oliveri came back and some of the original guys they kind of reformed with more original members on tone deaf touring yeah i saw i saw a video of eric of of you bang your head with Leather Wolf yeah we did we had a video a music video for behind the gun which is off that album and then yeah bang your head we played and i think there was some some video out there of that yeah i want to look that up yeah tone deaf touring the book in agency and i thought i used to book for tone deaf touring and i could have sworn that i remembered Leather Wolf yeah W U L T or W U L F maybe a different band there's like a power wolf and uh some others but um you know they've toured a lot throughout the years you know of course when i wasn't in the band i mean originally they were like a major label island records you know yeah i remember Leather Wolf and the day i had their second album i believe and i still like it actually i'm still on my my playlist in places yeah the call i think made it to the billboard 100 you know they were a pretty major band and they they broke up when they had some real good offers on the table yeah that's the first song i heard was the call yeah i saw a video back and i think it was uh NTV had bangers fall all right so i must be thinking of a different band and i just remember that that there was a letter wolf on the roster of tone deaf touring when i was looking there huh something is stranger than true well guys i think that's about we covered the whole history of asca just in this one little episode i think yeah we have it's been a good show absolutely i mean i guess i had a little bit of insider information to help kind of push it in the right direction but let's uh mr pleasure it's always always good talking to you guys and then seeing you guys and uh we appreciate your um your love of the band and we're very happy that you like the new record and uh we don't we look forward to getting active doing more shows we actually were just invited to go play a major festival um so um oh make a festival where germany and we were invited to go play a major festival in germany which one um angelate but um you know we'll talk about that stuff another day yeah future future content well it was it was real good to talk to you guys always good and i think this is um a first for eric um with asca this is eric's first official interview as a member of asca um so thank you for that and um and i know keet would have joined us if he he's he's doing some show downtown fort worth i believe now he's right down the road from us then well we brand it was like what two blocks from me yeah so y'all are going to be a jilligan show right oh yeah actually my granddaughter wants to go to that show oh there you go here granddaughters yeah we're old we got granddaughters oh man i don't i don't know if galegens has age limits or not um you're the professionally youthful looking that did you always look young did you look younger than you were when you were young i did the beards maybe look a little bit older yeah shave the beard carl looks 12 yeah i'm keeping the bear i think they do actually on the bar side is i'm the restaurant side i don't think they really enforced it that much been on the bar side i think who wants to who wants to come carl aila aila she wants to come see asca she'd be the star of the show thank you i think you're right danny now you know i can see all right what because uh when we were playing there the last time there was the guy that brought his son and his son was clearly under 21 and he you know as long as you're there with your with a guardian oh okay you can get in you know so bring everyone bring everyone and then some we'll definitely do i miss day galegens is always a good skill yes it is and i'm so glad to get back to jay galegens because that was always my favorite place we get a ballplay sound system this time and bro i think we got to say people are still i never got the three people we sound but they didn't do a bad job they did a pretty good job they did okay when i think of asca i think of the rockin deeplum money carlos and jay galegens because we had some hell of a shit and money carlos over there with with uh dime bag and and everybody you know funny thing uh going back first interview i was on the cover of the fort worth weekly with asca before i played one show with them i've actually still got that forward weekly and my stack of stuff i got that yeah okay all right guys we'll wrap it up we'll wrap it up we'll let do you have a george eat the rest of his chicken hey you don't get you don't get in front of george in his chicken man no he also tears up some fajita meat i remember we were somewhere eating one night and he ordered like an entire pile of fajita meat but we really appreciate you guys coming on everybody check out the new cd or you can even get it on vinyl uh very good album probably my favorite album and get the the if you want the digital track yep we're gonna post all the info in the show notes so make sure and check that out youtube page has got the awesome videos that they've put out there's several for the album so thanks for coming on guys we really appreciate it and we'll see y'all in two weeks for sure yeah we'll see uh july 20th at jay gilligan's we'll be there arlington texas everybody come out all righty thanks thanks everybody for watching thank you guys keep rocking and uh that was your hot ear anyway yeah i got i've got him on facebook i'll send him a message all right everybody real fun season finale we won't be doing a show next week because we'll be at the hot texas honors convention in mesquite texas so we're taking a week off and we come back season four and somehow we're gonna get a new theme song for the show yeah can you guys come up with a theme song in two weeks probably uh in two weeks i don't want to let me talk the key to see something out but um you have an idea like what do you want the lyrics to me we just want an instrumental is all we need yes an instrumental yeah we're just gonna something evil we want evil okay something instrumental sound like a plan sounds great we'll talk to y'all later thanks for watching on the youtube hit that like and subscribe and we'll talk to you when we talk to you you're leaving everybody bye so now she's a small operator i'll see you before i recognize that one what you want to handle yeah i'm pretty sure i got all the details she had me down on her knees she got me hooked on a secret she got my life free and i say hey you tell me that way don't be that way you will never stop crying hey you take my breath away my breath away you got me hooked on to the way i'm so steamer i want to feed her i'm playing anything you're so drunk t-shirt dream i'm a cot and the people are so steamer! so so so so how long out oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh