The Evil Never Dies Podcast

S3 Ep269: Amityville 2: The Possession

This week we discuss and review Amityville 2 - The Possession from 1982! #amityvillehorror #possession #demonic #horrormovies #horrormoviepodcast #stayevil http://theevilneverdiespodcast.com
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Duration:: 52m
Broadcast on:: 01 Jul 2024
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Warning, this podcast may contain graphic violence, sexual themes, and bad language. If our language offends you, we apologise, but we do not give a fuck. Be mindful of your kids listening. [Music] Welcome back to the Evil Never Dies podcast, episode 269. Oh, oh, 69, 69, 69, it's appropriate for the movie we're going to be presenting tonight, I guess. Oh, so what's going on, you old Ollie Cat? I don't know there, um, I can't even think of the word, are you sucker? You're just a sucker, Brett. Oh, yeah. You're a sucker. You're a shit show that was. Yeah, we actually talked about it for an hour, I thought, "Told Brett, we should record it and have the Evil Never Dies political talk, but we decided not to." No, I was like, "I gotta say, as we're fucking doomed." Oh, shit. What's going on? Lisa just came in here and interfered with the whole show. What, Lisa, what are you doing that for? Get out of here. Damn. I need to get one, I want you to order me one of them on air signs, keep people out of here. He's come walking in, like, what the? Get you a sign, do not disturb recording and product progress like I got, I just hang on the door, and Jack still knocks on the door. Yeah, fucker. Well, at least we got Brett back from his hiatus. I'm back from my hiatus, but I'm fucked up. Are you going to tell us a story, finally, because everybody's been asking? On June 11th, I got rear-ended and I'm fucked up. That's all I'm going to say about it. We got my back and neck is fucked up, so. And litigation might be a pending? Might be. Maybe. Going to physical therapy, which is fucking killing me. You say to gain 10 pounds, because you can't move around good? Yeah, I can't walk. You can't come work on the haunt. Well, plus it's 132 degrees outside. Well, who's false that? You could have come and worked on it in April and May. Ah, I know. I know. That Frankenstein ain't going to get fixed. I guarantee it. Yeah, well, if it's the last thing I do. I'm still waiting on the barrel. Don't you? We just need to fire up the air condition. We can fucking work on that motherfucker all day long in that garage. Yeah, whatever. We can do a lot of shit. Yeah, whatever. So we've got one week of show after this one until the Texas Hunters Convention. So then we are actually going to take a week off from Texas Hunters Convention. We will be doing some shorts and then maybe some lives during that week. And then when we come back, we will be starting season four of the Evil Never Dies podcast. Yep. With a new theme song, maybe. Yeah, if we can find one. I've got the best one. The one you say sounds like a night wish. You haven't been able to talk yet. I like the other one, though, but we got to pay 20 bucks for it. And then I like the other one, too, that I sent you that's all the time. It was 150 bucks. Well, for the song, but it for to do originally once 150. For 45 seconds of fucking music. Mm. Just 45 seconds. Oh, minute and 30 seconds. Okay. Well, we're not going to be going down that route, so we're going to do free or $20 or $20, maybe we can afford $20. Everybody's getting new new theme music and stuff. Jerry Polly. Jerry Polly is a hillbilly horse for his. There's this pretty cool for them. It's sort of heavy metal. Oh, you want to do all this crazy fucking simple terrace on and thrash things. And that's not the majority of the audience, Brett. I know. I know. You're going to have to. But that $20 one we both agreed on, and I think that's probably the route we're going to end up going. I think so. So we have a theme for the evil never dies of wrestle talk once that ever starts. Yeah, it has a theme, but no show. It has a logo, but no show. So we're going to have to get the zoom up and running for that so I can get that going. Yeah, I know. I got to figure that out because we're supposedly we're going to have nine people be admins on it. Yeah, I know. Since we're on the pro. Supposedly. And we pay like $160 a year for somebody by a couple call. See we lose money on this shit. We sure do. Tends of it, but once we start the evil never dies, wrestle talk, we're going to get money in here. I just spent $30 in picture frames today for pictures for the to sell at the convention. Yeah, all together. Those were really popular last year. Yeah, they were cheap too. We're not bringing those screen factory posters back. I don't think a single one of them sold except for the creep show and we gave that away as a door prize. Well, if you got anything you want to give away as a door prize, I was going to do a shirt for a door prize. You can get away one of the good shirts. Yeah, that shit. Screw that shit. You're funny. I'm serious. I'm only going to do one a day though, so you're going to give one shirt away a day. No one prize a day. Oh, whatever. I ain't giving nothing away. Nothing. I'm going to give away haunted house cards because I need actors. Yeah, we need actors. I need staff. We're down to me, you and Scarlett, I think, is our only actors and my nephew in the front. We'll pay and we got a person to let everybody in to our friend Tammy. Well, yeah, what is it? Scarlett's the number two manager or something, she said. Oh, yeah. You're number three and Halloween's number one or some shit, but she said if you're number one or you know, whatever position you got, she says, that's the hand out the water. If we got anybody to hand water out to that's you, we're going to hand it out to Scarlett and me, I guess. I guess. Well, this is turned into an evil talk. Maybe we should just keep on. No, we got to do this movie because it's my pick this week of the week. We've already, you're ambled for 15 minutes. We've already lost everybody. All right. Well, let's get into it then. Sorry for the delay, but this movie is probably worth the wait. All right, Ali cat. I'm going here. Okay, sucker. Go. Go. Sweet. We're covering Amityville to the possession. Which is the prequel to Amityville horror. Yes, loosely based prequel. Well, it's actually based on the real story that happened in the house of the Defeo family that were killed in the house by the sun. That's reality, whether you believe in ghosts, ghouls, or demons, the Defeo family really died in that Amityville house. And this movie is loosely based on the Defeo story. Maybe it's based more in reality than you would know according to Tommy Lee Wallace who wrote the screen pay, obviously probably not devils and demons. But who knows, I don't care anymore about that shit. So all right, all right, directed by Domanio Damiani. I guess he's a Italian director. Yeah. He has not one we're familiar with. No. Let's see what else he's done here. Not really nothing. Yeah, I didn't think so. Nothing I've ever seen. He's not our gentle. All right, he's screenplay by, like you said, Tommy Lee Wallace and Dardanio Sachete. I think he was a producer based on murdering Amityville by Hans Holzer who is a supernatural writer, investigator, Harris, like, collegeist or whatever else, something, not a fan of the show about it on and call the Holzer files. Oh, yeah, he's not a fan of the what their faces from the conjuring. Oh, yeah, yeah, he's not. He thought they were crooked. All right, produced by Ira N. Smith, Stephen R. Greenwald, and Jose Lopez Rodero. And that might have something to do with the fact this is a co-American and Mexican movie. Yep. It was actually partially produced in Mexico and filmed. It was filmed in Mexico, yes. A lot of it is cinematography by Franco D. G. Camono. Who? Franco D. Gia, Camono. God, you fuck these names up. G. Como, Como, Cuomo, edited by Sam Osteen, music by Laylo Schiffrin. The music was really good. Yep, really creepy, even better than the first one, I think. It sort of feels like the first one. But yeah, it's creepy. Lots of creepy piano stuff and things in it. Production companies are Dino D. Laurentis Corporation, Giada International, and a studio's churro Busco, distributed by Orion Pictures, released on September 24, 1982, in the United States as a running time of 104 minutes. It seems longer. Yeah, it does. It's sort of drug on at the end a little bit. The end does drag on. I agree. It goes too long. Same time as 104 minutes. Countries are United States and Mexico. Budget was $5 million and it brought back $12.5 million at the box office, so it made its money back and some. Yeah, it wasn't really a big hit when it came out of the theaters compared to the original movie, but it's definitely has a cult following that still exists today. Exactly. All right, you're going to go over the plot of this or not sure will. So the DeFeo family, I have a different name, are arriving at Amityville in the famous Amity it's based on what really happened before the crap the hauntings happened. So they arrive. I think the sun comes in last and the daddy is actually Polly from Rocky and he acts just like Polly from Rocky and he's like, what the hell you doing coming in late? You're supposed to be watching your sister and your mother and starts hitting them basically. It's obvious. We have a dysfunctional Italian family here. The mother is very religious, very Catholic. Two kids are just go happy happy go lucky kids. Then we got the four kids. Well, no, there's the two little kids. I ain't done. Okay. Okay. You're you're fucking with me now. Then we got the older daughter who's I don't know how old she's supposed to be in this movie. I'd say probably 15 or 16 maybe we'll say 15. And then the older brother who's sort of creepy from the get go. So they move into the Amityville house. If you don't know what the Amityville house looks like, then I don't know what to tell you. Here's a picture of it. If you're on YouTube, if you don't know what that is, you shouldn't be listening to this show, I guess. And pretty quick, weird shit starts happening, of course, immediately immediately when they're moving in, they find the underground area that's like got all these flies and I don't know what all it's supposed to be. So yeah, why why would the mover guy go underneath there and I think he's being helpful. I don't know. Yeah. Come out with shit all over him though, get all over him and she send him upstairs to clean up. So as it goes along, the brother is getting possessed. It's pretty obvious. The daddy is getting meaner. The kids, the two little kids, I should say, they're getting accused of breaking things. So they call the priest in the priest comes to bless the house and that's where shit really gets ugly. I think the kitchen goes crazy and the poly starts hitting the kids and the father says, don't hit the children, he's like, well, I'll do it the fuck I want, it's my house. And the older brother gets more possessed. This time goes on and I don't know, I guess that's the setup for the Amityville, the possession. All right, let's go over the cast here. The good cast. Yep, first off, we got James Olson as father Frank Adamski, Bert Young, aka Polly, aka Polly as Anthony Montelli, Ratanya Alda as Dolores Montelli and she's played, that's the mom, Jack Magner as Sonny Montelli, he was the oldest son and apparently has done nothing since this. Nothing since this, yeah. Diane Franklin as Patricia Montelli and then we got Brent Katz as Mark Montelli, Erica Katz as Jan Montelli and they are actual twins, yeah, life. Andrew Prine as father Tom, yeah, he seemed that interested in being a father. He went to go hunt all the time. Leonardo Samino as the chancellor, Moses Gunn as detective Turner, Ted Ross as Mr. Booth, I don't remember a Mr. Booth. Let me see here, I don't remember him either. I don't know what he played in it, but anyway, continue on. Petra Lee as, or Leah as Mrs. Greer and Martin Donnegan as detective Cortez and that is the cast for Amityville to the possession. I usually don't call it Amityville to. But it's called Amityville the possession, which is a better name. Yeah, all right. Before you start, we'll go over this Blu-ray and get that out of the way. So this came in a box with one, two and three, which was the primary movies. It's got a weird cover. I don't understand why the screen factory did this, but there's no bet. It's just got an interior, but yeah, it's sort of a weird movie poster type cover with the famous house on it and a for sale sign. It is a screen factory. Like I said, it came in a box, which included, I think a fourth disc, which was a, what do you call it, a documentary thing, but it had stuff on the other movies. Hey, you can come be on the, we have a guest. Hello. I love it. I love it. What's up, Kaz? Yep. Yes. So the Blu-rays, it came with a fourth disc that had some special features and some documentaries, which are really good. This disc itself has interviews with the director, the Maya guy, whatever the hell his name is. Diane Franklin, she did the best interview of them all. She was talking about the, you know, the stuff that goes on in the movie we'll discuss in a bit. Yeah. And there's an audio commentary with Alexandria Holzer, which is related to Hans. And there's another interview with, that's his daughter. It is. And the interview with the priest, actually. So it's a pretty good disc, looks good. The audio seemed to be sort of funky, but I think it might have been my stereo was tripping because it does that from occasion on occasion. So the audio was a little weird. It was, I was getting a lot of back speaker sound, no, I was getting a lot of stuff from the rear channels. Oh, okay. I don't know. I don't know if it was me or the disc has some kind of a weird flaw. I don't know, never noticed it before, but I'm not going to give it a mark off on that because it at least it was had rear audio. You don't get a lot of these early 80s movies that do, but it's a good disc. You got to get it in the box set. I think it's still in print. It comes with the first one, which has been released several times since then in 4K and that weird Amityville 3D, which nobody watches anyway. So I would love to see this thing come out on a 4K. So maybe the screen factory might listen to me since they watched the show regularly. So that's what we're asking for. Good disc. I give it a four out of five just because it's not completely cleaned up. It's still a little dirty, but for this movie, it fits. So good disc. I recommend it. Well, I watched the screen factory once again. I watched on to be of course, she did look there. I think they get all the screen factories, but I was, I don't know if my center speakers just messed up or what, because that's all I got as a. I think there's some sound issues with this sound bar. I think the movie's got some, I'm going to, I'm going to check in on that and see if, see if the screen factory still owns the rights of this movie or not, because I was getting some like popping in it, but I don't know if it's just my. I didn't get that. This had weird, rare channel feedback, really strange, maybe it was haunted. Maybe it was just the to be feed, because I what I went and started watching on free V2 and it was better and it was, it sounded better on there. So it might have been just the version. This thing's never got a good release until this, uh, screen factory Blu-ray. It's always been on MGM DVDs, which were really crappy looking. So there may be some audio issues. I didn't look into that too late now. Watch it in two channel. If you, if you don't, if you have issues with 5.1, there's my advice. That's the, I used to have like a thousand dollar home theater system back in the day. And, uh, I tell you what, the sound bar, I, them sound pretty damn good for, you know, what they are. You know, it's sad, but my old Pioneer speakers that y'all finally talked me into getting rid of remember, um, this sound bar sounds 50 times better than it ever did. Yeah, I know. I had them same exact speakers too. That's what you said. That's crazy. Well, we got some trivia on this movie. Yeah, we do. There may be some spoilers in this one. I think. Yeah. There's some parts of this movie that are very controversial, especially to this 2024 crowd, which is offended by everything. So this, this, this blue right about, did this blue ray come out in 2018? I think so. Okay. But for the extra special offended, a warning ahead, extended warrant, warning ahead. This movie is very controversial. Yes, it is. And it makes it scarier than it should be. Sorry. Okay. All right. All right. We've got some trivia here, the house in the film as in the original movie is not the actual house as depicted in the best selling novel. No, the real, the real house was black and looked a whole lot creepier than these houses in the movies. Yeah. Never understood that. All right. Here we go. We're getting into the nitty gritty here in a 2018 interview, Diane Franklin, who played what is her name? She played Patricia and for the record. She filmed this movie when she was 20 years old. So and she was playing like a 15 year old. Yeah. But she was not, you know, back then they sometimes used younger actresses for 15 though. She did. She did. But, but for the record, she was an adult when she filmed this. Talked about her infamous, incestuous, incestuous sex scene. She said while she definitely understood the peculiarity of it. She didn't have a huge issue with doing it. She said she never had a brother. So luckily it didn't have that association or the weirdness that went along with it. Franklin did admit that filming scene did end up being very awkward, but not because of the content. It was the producers are made her nervous shot in Mexico with no parents or chaperones at her side. I don't know why she would need it need them if she was 20 years old. It was 82, you know, back then we kind of watched people better. Yeah. True. The script called for the actress to appear topless for like two seconds. Yeah. What she agreed because she had no issue taking off her top in front of cast and crew. She'd already done it in the last American Virgin in 1982. When producers tried to persuade her to go fully nude, she said, fuck that and stood her ground. Good for her. They said I was beautiful and they really wanted me to do it. I said, thank you very much, but no. They got around it by shooting me from the back, which I had no say in. And that was that. So yeah, that is the one of the controversial parts of the movie was the brother had been possessed and doesn't really rape. She's pretty willingly to go at it and it adds to the reality of a demon possession to me. Yeah. Exactly. It's, you know, and again in '82, I'm sure like something that wouldn't normally happen, you know? Well, we would hope it would normally not happen, but it adds to the demonic element of this movie and it makes it even creepier than it was. So I don't have a problem with that scene. I think they didn't go too far, but apparently it was supposed to go a lot more far and they got cut out of the movie. I don't think they filmed it, but that was in the script. There was a lot of stuff in this film that got cut out. It probably should have. It's pretty gruesome too. We'll not really gruesome, but I guess you could call it gruesome, but we'll get into that in a little bit here. We will, we will. Jack Wagner, who played the Sonny, the oldest son, has only other party had in the movie was in Stephen King's Firestarter in 1984. I don't even know what party played. It doesn't even say, you don't know. All right, here we go. We're going to get into the George Lutz stuff here. George Lutz, what a nut. My opinion only. I personally think the whole thing was a money grab. And the Warrens were in on it. Yeah, they probably could have been. That's what Hanhowser thinks too. All right, George Lutz did an interview at horror.com at horror.com, horror.com, about his 28 days in the real life house that provided the storyline for the Amityville horror from 1979. He wanted the sequel to be based on John G Jones's book, The Amityville Horror. Part two, part two, that sequel novel showed like the aftermath of the Lutz family escaping the house. The Lutz family claimed they were still possessed after they left the house after it like it followed them or whatever, which I guess stuff has been known to do, but the Lutz thing, I don't believe it. I don't believe anything happened in that house other than the DeFeo family was murdered in the house. That's because he was fucking tripping on acid. Much rooms. The DeFeo kid, yeah. I don't surprise me. And again, the father was much like in this movie, he was very abusive for the family and him too. So yeah, I think there was no demon possession involved. He just killed his family. He was tripping man. And spoiler alert, that's what happens in this movie. There's just no two ways about it. There's no way to not spoil that part of the movie because except he wasn't tripping. He was possessed. He was possessed in this movie. Very possessed. One of the most possessed people I've ever seen in my fucking life exactly. But anyway, Dino dealer Lauren Lorendas put a stop to it and he didn't want to use that. Didn't George Lutz claim he's going to sue him? He did sue him. He didn't get nothing, I bet. He was unsuccessful but did manage to force him to put out a disclaimer on the movie posters that read this film has no affiliation with George and Kathy Lutz. I'm probably, I'm going to assume the movie was probably glad it didn't have any affiliation with them too. Exactly. Even though the Montelli family is based on the real life to fail family, there are a few creative liberties taken. For example, the movie shows the family just moving into the home at the film's beginning and being there weeks later when in real life they lived there for like nine years. The defaios did before they happened. Yeah, I bet that is definitely a change and it goes into about the, he wasn't possessed. He was a drug addict. I still think that's where the Lutz has got the idea to do all this because they knew about the murder in the house and how they got Ed and Lorraine Warren involved, I don't know. We may have to do an entire episode on the Amityville Horror, the actual story, not the movie. We could do that. That's coming in season four at some point, probably six months from now. Maybe this time next year. Yeah. That'll be the season four ending episode. Okay, go ahead. All right, after the director's original cut was shown to the test audience, several scenes had to be cut out for various reasons. One of them being the negative reaction of the audience of the scene where Anthony annually rapes Dolores and the scene where Sonny and Patricia have incestuous sex, did they film that? They did. I didn't know. I thought it was cut out before they filmed it. Wow. This scene was added into the script by the director who wanted to really upset the viewers. Well, the fuck you think you're going to do? See an ass raping? Come on. Well, it was still implied you could hear it, you know, the, the kids could hear it. Yeah. The daughter, she made a statement, the older daughter saying that, uh, I don't think mom likes being with dad anymore. I think he forces her to do stuff. So it was left in the movie, but probably in a more appropriate way. I think that would have been a little much, but they made lobby cards out of these scenes and put them on the movie posters in the fucking theater. Oh, shit. So that might be worth some money. If you have an old would be some money, probably, yeah. In the same year, 1982 that the movie was released, screenwriter Tommy Lee Wallace wrote and directed Halloween three season of the witch, which was also launched in theaters in the fall of 1982. Both movies were sequels, Amityville to the possession was the first produced screenplay of Wallace. I'd like to watch that interview. I might have to borrow that desk and watch that interview. Okay. Since it's not on 4K yet and I can actually watch it. I was looking at 4K players, man, they went $300 for one man for a decent one. You can get a PlayStation five for that. It's like crazy and they're the best 4K players that exist. Oh, let's see here. Oh, the image that the haunted paint brushes paint on Jan and Mark's bedroom wall is that of the demonic pig Jody that was seen in the previous film. I remember the paint brushes. Well, in my book, it would be seen in the next film. Oh, watch these in the right order, I guess. Let's see here. Producer couldn't speak hardly any English during the production, requiring the presence of a translator to help communicate with the present, true presence, presence. Let's get in a little bit over there. We're going to kill my back pain, dude. We're going to have to speed this up just a bit, I think. We're going to run out of time. Not a time. Okay. Well, let me think. Well, a lot of this stuff we've already went on went over. Yeah. Oh, let's see. Sunny has a poster of Rocky in his bedroom. I wonder why a little nod to the Rocky movie there. The Amityville address of the house in the film is 112 Ocean Avenue. What is the? The house that they show, that ain't the original house that the murders happened in. No. Why are them people that live in that actual house, then now they like planted big trees and shit bushes all around. Everybody comes and fucks and wants to get a picture of those and it is the original house. They just changed the house. It is the original house. Yes. In the movie, but not where the murders happen. The movie. No, the movie house is not where the nothing happened. It's a set where the murders happened and later the Lutzes moved in. Okay. That house is still there, but they've changed. They date. Yeah. I mean, everybody and their damn dog wants to go to Amityville and take a picture in front of the damn horror house. So that's why they've done that. I have no. And for the record, nobody has ever reported anything supernatural at that house since the Lutzes left. I've, there's nothing. That's probably why they said it followed them probably. And like you said, the, the, the Feo kid was a doped up when he shot everybody. There is weird shit behind that murder stuff. Very weird stuff. Nobody heard the shotgun anywhere in the neighborhood. They were all laying like face down. So there's some creepy shit with that murder. The real mind. Now we're talking about reality. We're really fucking, we're really fucking this episode up. Supposedly, it was like one of the worst thunderstorms that they'd had in years. Oh, and there's a lot of thunder and lightning and shit. So I don't know about that one. I don't know. In the first film is Kathy Lutz is looking through the archive newspapers in the library. He finds a clip or clip clipping featuring Ronald Defeo and is shocked to see his uncanny resemblance to George Lutz. His incarnation in the film, Sonny Mont, Mont, Montelli, obviously doesn't fit the description because he didn't look nothing like the real, the real, the Feo kid looked nothing like George Lutz. I look like Charles fucking Manson. Yeah, he did. All right, let's see here. When Father Adamsky is blessing Dolores's room, she asks him to bless her bed as well. As he prepares to bless it, Dolores screams when she sees blood on the floor. As she's screaming an extremely quick and dimly lit shot appears of a man standing over a woman heading down a flight of stairs. The woman has her head turned as if she is to look at him and her hair is streaming behind her like there is either a strong wind or she's turning her head really quickly. I don't remember this in the movie. That's a lot of stuff going on in that scene and I just remember the priest with the blood. I think he saw the wrong version of the movie. Oh, it has to be watched frame by frame to spot it. Yeah. So you didn't watch it frame by frame like I did. Oh, gosh, dang, how can you watch it frame by frame on to be bitch, bitch, bitch? You need a PlayStation five or you can watch some shit, dude. Pretend you all the received a nomination from the for worse actress in a film for that year. The what's the razzy's yeah, the razzy she was nominated for a razzy for worse. The razzy's I thought she did a pretty good job actually, great job. She did a wonderful job. Both her and Diane Franklin became good friends on the set of the film. Yeah, Diane Franklin said is because she really, you know, she was 20. She wasn't 15 and she could they got along well. I don't think the mother was as old as she appeared either. So they may have been closer into age than we knew. Yeah, okay. Their young father died early on early on during filming of the movie. Oh, they they filmed Amityville 3D and it was a combination of United States and Mexico too. That movie I don't know about that movie trying to think of who was in that for I can't remember that very popular, very popular actress, but we have totally butchered this movie Brett talking about everything but the movie, we're talking about the movie, there's not much left. Okay, I was going to show you that. What's that? Never mind. Is it the new Michael Myers? I don't know. Oh, Lord, the Montelli cars are a 1982 Lincoln Continental and a 1982 Ford Granada station wagon. Sonny's cars, a 1973 Jensen, Heasley series, I a little sports car that he got and he got smacked because he was driving it too fast. He come speeding in the driveway and Bert Young bitch slapped him. Okay, so what's the point of the cars? I don't know. I'm just saying. All right, that's all the trivia I got. Good. Good. All right, this is a butchered episode butchered. I'm glad this is almost the end of season three. You go first your thoughts on the movie that your pick you go first. Just a weird movie, man, all the way around. I don't think it holds up very well, to be honest with you. I don't know why the you know, I know that they say that that happened with the the fail family, the the incest and stuff that there was rumors of that that went on, but why did they have to make it into the movie like that, you know, they could have did away with it because it makes it evil. Oh, yeah, I guess, but I don't know. I'm going to give this a three. I'm not too impressed with it. Yeah, you can give it lower if you want good, good special effects, I guess. I don't even know who the hell did the special effects on this. Of course you don't, because we don't have I MDB Pro. Okay, but I don't know. Kurt Young did a good job in it, all the actors did a good job, I just think, I don't know. They could have went a little different with it, I guess. So I didn't really enjoy it too much, but I'll give it a three for the special effects of the soundtrack, good spooky soundtrack to it, good makeup effects, the guy turning into the demon was good, so what do you got? I totally disagree with everything you just said, okay, everything. This movie is one of the scariest movies ever made, in my opinion. It's in my top five list of scary movies, as far as give me the creeps. This one does scare me. It's very realistic to what a demon possession would be. Now maybe not the effects, but of course for Hollywood, you got to make it look that way. The whole rape and incest angles I think also fit what a demon possession would be. The desecration of the cross, you know, cover it up and knocking it out the windows. The priest, you know, the things he went through. I think this is a very realistic presentation, it's a scary fucking movie. The soundtrack is scary, the effects are wonderful, very realistic, practical effects for 82. I think this movie is phenomenal, it is by far 50 times better than the first Amityville Horror, which I find to be a boring piece of shit and always have. And honestly, this movie should be the Amityville Horror, the other one should be the sequel. So I think this movie is near perfect and it holds up to me still very well. Okay. So there you go, this is one I'm telling you, this movie is still scary to me. It's looks me when I watch it now. It does, you know, obviously again, there's not a good picture of it. It's the Blu-ray does a better job, but I think it's a great movie. I think it's scary as shit and I think everybody should watch it. Now there are the controversial moments in it, but again, this is a demon possession. It's the desecrate Christ and God and offend, you know, offend the Lord and that's what happens in this movie. So I think if you talk to a lot of demonologists and people that have, they will probably find that stuff like this happens in those instances. So I would give this movie, I think about a 4.5, okay, it's, it's scary as shit. It's, it's all, but it's also bad enough to where I wouldn't show it to the kids or nothing because of the content. So it's not one that I can show the kids like I would evil dead too or something, but I do like this movie a lot and it holds up well for me and I will pray that I get a 4K release of it. I don't think I've seen this in the theater when it came on. I think I waited for it to come out on video. Well, it's by far a better movie than Amityville Horror. I think that movie is terrible. I always have. I've never liked the Amityville Horror. I don't like anything about the Amityville Horror. I would give that movie a 2 if we ever reviewed it if we, so I just spoiled it if we do. We probably should have reviewed it first. Here we are. This is the fucking original, you know, that this is the sea, the prequel. Exactly. Yeah, for sure. So. If Tommy Lee Wallace had had done it, I think it might have been a little bit less flat, but I didn't mind the Catholic stuff in it. I thought it fit really well and I thought the priests were played very realistic too, especially the one that wants to go hunting. So yeah, I like this movie a lot. What did we do last week? I like that a lot too. What did we do last week? I can't even remember. I don't know. So I've had two hits in a row, so that's my take on the Amityville, the possession. I recommend it, but caution, it is a very controversial movie. Don't watch it with kids and don't watch it if you're easily offended by shit because it's a demon possession movie. I think a lot of, I think a lot of my problem with it too is I haven't watched it forever. This is probably the first time I've watched it in probably 10, 15 years and that did sort of freak me out about that, you know, because it's controversial, yes, and demon possession should be. It does sort of tend to go a little long. That would be my only thing that it drags on a bit at the end more than it should, but I look past that. I kind of know what's happening and I just sign them out. It's going to drag for a minute, but it pays off in the end. I mean, I put this with Exorcist and Exorcist 3 as far as possession movies. It's that good, folks. Don't listen to Bubba. He's lying to you. Oh, I'm not saying that. Watch it. I'm just saying. Bubba's lying to you. That's all I got. All right. Well, I guess that's all we got for Amityville to the possession. You got anything else you want to say, Carl? I'm done. All right. Well, check us out on all the social medias hitting like that subscribe button and just search the evil, never dies podcast on Google and you'll find all kinds of shit. Yeah, I was looking the other day and it was like, wow, there's a lot of shit there. Well, next week will be our season finale, so yeah. Take in. All right, everybody. Thanks for watching and listening and we will talk to you all talk to you Wednesday. Unless something else fucks up on my body. Okay. I'm done. Bye. Steve, well, everybody. The night of February 5th, 1976, George and Kathleen Lutz and their three children fled their home in Amityville, New York and never returned. For them, a horror was over. Their living nightmare shocked audiences around the world in the Amityville horror. But before them, another family lived in this house and were caught by the original evil. The Lutz's escaped with their lives, but the previous owners weren't so lucky. Heavenly Father, bless our new home and watch over us as we become a part of the school. My family, it was their dream house until it turned into a nightmare. What was in this house? What evil could drive their son to madness and destroy everything and everyone he loved? And now, Amityville 2, the possession. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]