I'm slipping in and you're tripping out But that's what an act times all about Don't take me in, I'll take you down No, not the prettiest girl around Take the press, I'm freaking out Take your drink, then let's make out Yo, beautiful swine, let's go outside Light up the smoke and start to cry Episode 100 of the Beerist's podcast Recorded February 20th, 2014, Milestones I'm slipping in and you're tripping out And I'm tripping in, I came it out I'm slipping in and you're tripping out And I'm tripping in, I came it out I'm slipping in and you're tripping out And I'm tripping in, I came it out That is broken, holy shit. It's time after two. Hey, can you give another blaster and throw this in the trash? Not hard. You son of a bitch. I thought there was more stuff in there. No, but there's no really more stuff in there. You might want to give it a rinse. I know you don't live here, but somebody does. Oh, do you record? I'll pick that awesome. Okay, I'll pick that up. I can't record. Leave that in there. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Shut the fuck up. I'm John Rubio. It's just this not a good day. That's an omen for a horrible show. It's the best day of my life this far. That was just you destroying my fucking house. Yeah, you're welcome. That's how we christen the shit for our 100th edition. It's a good chip city. Yeah, this is my guest room and if I just breaking glasses in your willy-nilly. Okay, it's still your guest room. This is a guest room. What guest are ever staying in this room? Your guest right now. Oh, damn it. Oh, fuck. Okay, I'm John Rubio and with me today. Grant Davis. Hi, Grant. Hey, buddy. Glad you could be here. Thanks. I'm glad I'm here. Beautiful. We also have with us. Anastasia. Never a guest, boy. You're always a guest. No, I'm not. Okay, good point. My clambered. Do you have anywhere glasses? I'm gonna put you in timeout. Mike, you have to drink all of your beer out of your hands. And good thing too, it's fine that you're gonna be putting time out because we have so many to fill you in and that boy is... Whoa! Whoa! You're gonna fill you in. Ryan Allen-Mesh. Ryan, good to see you. I know. Aren't you guys excited to have shitty beer tonight? Yes! Ryan curses back. We're not totally sure it's gonna be shitty. I actually have no idea I'm just gonna turn out. No, Ryan's here. It's gonna be bad beer. If it started out with broken glass, I think it's got nowhere to go, but well, I don't know where it's gonna go. Yeah, it's probably up, but it might fall right off. It's like a high point to me. Well, we did a hundred episodes. We did. Well, as of this episode, this is our hundred... Well, we've actually done more than a hundred episodes because we have a full-side thing. Extra's in there. Yeah, Nick Bax. If you lost episodes. But fuck those. A hundred legit episodes. Right. And what does this mean? Before we get into that, we have done a hundred episodes plus about five, six, seven other extras. We haven't missed a week. No. Yeah. We've not gone on any sort of vacation. We've asked you if we could have a break and you're like, "No, I'll just replace you." So we're like, "Fuck, fine, I'll show you." Yeah, that's how we no longer have Josh Cole on the show. Somebody help us! We're being held captive in his guest room. You know, and I also deleted his show off of the internet. No, that's not why. But yeah, he was terrible. Always remembered as our worst guest. Yeah, he was like, "Oh, can I have a day off?" The second episode, "No, you're gone." I didn't have it. But yeah, I mean, we've been putting these shows out regularly for a hundred fucking episodes. We do one a week and I'm so glad that we've made it this far. I had no idea that we would. We've had over 500 beers on this show. Yes, we have. So for our 100th episode, I thought actually Grant came up with this really great idea. Oh, yeah. Can we use the word "great lightly" please? Well, I think it's a fantastic idea. Sure, but that's just my opinion. This is a milestone show, right? We decided to do an episode about milestones, about personal milestones having to do with beer. And because beer is a big part of our lives. It's a huge part of all of our lives. And like music, I think, sometimes a certain beer will take us back to a certain time in our life, or we associate certain beers to big things that may have happened in our lives. Oh, yeah. Or, you know, just a cool memory here and there. So I'm just going to read this little introduction that I wrote out about what the show's about. This episode's about milestones and what beer means to us, particularly how it can mark important moments in our lives, bring people together in friendship and revelry, and something we can all share with one another despite our differences. Like Mike smokes a lot of pot. To me and to all of us on the show, beer's more than just a fizzy alcoholic drink. It's part of our lives and has been there for us through the good times and the bad. This episode is about those times. Tonight, we'll be sharing some of those moments with each other and with you. So from the bottom of our hearts, thank you for helping make this one of those moments. And here's to hoping that we'll be doing this again a hundred more episodes. Oh, my God. Can you imagine a hundred more episodes of this? Can you imagine me reading something at like a wedding? How boring that was? Yeah. That was really sappy. You only had to repeat something like twice. That's kind of amazing. That's the best reading ever. That nobody's going to know about that because I added that out. Thanks for pulling the curtain back, bitch. Thanks for still being an asshole. That was really beautiful. I mean, I'm wiping tears out of my eyes. No, you're not. That's sweat. It's just really hot in there. It is so fucking hot. Yeah, you read that really well. Thanks, dude. Yeah. Fucking lying. Congratulations. Thank you. But anyway, yeah. So we want to just share beer with each other and tell stories. So we're not really going to, yeah, we're not really going to focus on reviewing the beers so much. We're going to do a little bit of that. Yeah. But it'll mainly be us just sharing moments and sharing beers with friends. Cool. What? It sounds awful. What do you mean? That's what we do anyway. What do we do with life? It's life. I already have to do this shit all day, every day. Now you want me to come here and do it again? Oh, that might sound like a dream come true. Yeah. Just some people. First world problems here. I've called you bitch twice. I'm going for 100 today. Oh my God. Can we have a little sound effect every time you say bitch? Nope. Damn it. It's a sound effect is him saying bitch. Yeah. Like four four. It should be a drinking game. Okay. Every time I call it a piece of paper, please. No, bitch. He's at six, by the way. Yeah. So before we get to our first beer and our first story, I just want to have an announcement or two. We're not going to be covering emails today or iTunes shout outs or donations because this is a special episode and I didn't want to deal with any of that today. Yeah, we need to go through all that bullshit. No, no, no. But what we do want to do is thank each and every one of you for all of your support, all of your emails, all of your iTunes reviews, your donations. Thank you. And all of the fucking boxes of beer that you guys have sent over time. Are we going to actually thank all every single one of them? No, no. I don't have any names written down and there's so many people. Hey, we'll read them all faster than anyone's ever read the names. Ready? Here we go. And that was Grant's dog reading all the names. Hey guys, you have to go back and slow that one down to catch everything he said there. Thank you guys for everything. Like, that's been amazing. And if you guys want to send us emails, as always, do it at info@theberests.com and also leave us a shout out on iTunes to go to the iTunes music store, do a search for the beers, leave a five star rating and write a review. And when you do that, I can read your name and thank you for it on the show. And the last thing, please, please, please send us a donation. Doing 100 shows for me editing has been eight to 12 hours per show. If you do the math on that, that's a fuck ton of hours. It's around 1,000, 1,200 hours. And that's excluding the actual monetary costs. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about 200, 250, $300 per month. You've basically blown through your trust fund. You've never had a trust fund. I was poor up until I got out of college and I got to still kind of poor. Yeah, but that's not as funny as having a trust fund. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, I'm fucking thirsty. Can we start drinking? Okay, let's get to our fucking beers. But yeah, please set those donations for real. She's bitching when she's not drinking. She's bitching because he has to drink. She wants to drink bitch, bitch, bitch. Does it count if you guys say it? Yes. You better mark all of those down. Let's get to our first beer. Who's going first? I'll go first. Okay, Grant. Alright, so guys, I didn't even show you what I brought. So why don't you be a surprise? Yeah, we hadn't joined you. I'll pass it to Mike. I'll hand it to Mike. Okay. And here's our first beer. I knew you were getting it. Son of a bitch. Fuck you. Grant, Grant, Grant, Grant, Grant. It's so light. Are you fucking kidding me? Grant, did I ever tell you how much I love you? Allow me to tell the story. Okay, so before I met you guys, remember how I said we're not going to review something? You guys, it's got the vented white mouth. These are nice beers. I brought these in 16 ounces. Oh, God. Look at how easy this pours. And he brought more than one. Like, why would you do that? So I forgot I'm supposed to bring up my details here. So bear with me just a second as I pull up the info. Unlike all the other shows, everybody was required to bring their own beer and their own research. He's still lights Grant's beer. I can't believe this is happening. Keystone Light is a bird by Coors Brewing Company in Golden, Colorado. It's an American style light lager available year round in 12 ounce in 16 ounce cans and on draft. The ABV is 4.13%. It's got 104 calories and five carbs. This is the first time we've ever done a carb count. I'd like to point out a notable advertisement character is Keith Stone. You might have seen him in some of the commercials for this. This is how we're kicking this off. Brood by the Coors Brewing Company since 1989, Keystone Light is a triple filtered American style light lager. We like to say the smoothest of smooth. Oh, God. Keystone Light has a clean crisp taste and smooth finish, making it the beer of choice for those who want to grab live by the stones. So what are you waiting for? Stop reading and get grabbing. Okay, you son of a bitch. Look at how much of this we have to fucking drink. This is a good way to kick this off. Is it? Oh, man. Wait, are we supposed to chug these? No, we're just going to go through and do the regular review as usual, but truncated. We're going to do it real quick and then we'll get to why Granche is sharing with this with us. Looks like a morning. Episode 100, you guys. Yeah. And we're kicking it off. Keith Stone Light. Did you really expect something different when Grant so eagerly said, can I go first and everything was wrapped in a bag? I know. To be your fault. On the first episode, he's like, I don't really drink beer. The stuff I started to drink is a course light and Bud Light. What did we expect? You asked for a story. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. It's triple filtered. So it's completely fucking transparent. It is the clearest thing I've ever seen. Clear than water. Yeah. And it's yellow, like very light piss yellow. Yeah. I'm just drinking it all right. I don't even know why he gives a wait and very little head. So yeah, it smells like sweetness, sweet, pilsner, pilsner and corn. Yeah, sweet, pilsner. It's pretty good. It does smell good. I'm going to see how this tastes. It's not offensive. It smells a little bit like flowers and get it back. Knock it back, but I just chugged his whole glass bowl. Thanks, Grant. Oh man. It tastes like quarters and ping pong balls. Yeah. Speaking of which, I mean, before I came on this show, a lot of my beer memories were of drinking Keystone light at parties. I would go to parties and I very frequently would put this in a beer bong, shoot it down. Sometimes I'd put this with a mad dog and like a shot of mad dog or two and some some Schnapps, whatever. You are the classiest motherfucker I know. Yeah. Trashy, trashy parties. Everything horrible in a funnel. Oh yeah. I recall very much just playing quarters all the time with this. I want to call out my good memories from from college and a few years beyond all revolved around this. How many date rapes happened in that time period? I think I only blacked out like two or three times and felt sore in the morning around that area. So, okay, college. I mean, it's round down. You know, in college, I guess the first year I was in college, I was going back and forth through craft beer and course light. I'd get a 12 pack of course light every day and plow through that with my roommate. And it was just, I mean, shit, like it's not good. No, I mean, but I figured as far as starting things off, everyone's going to be familiar with this. Right. Everyone probably has some story or at least memory of drinking these shitty beers. And if Keystone light is not in your region, replace it with Milwaukee best or bush, light, or low and star, and naddy light, whatever. They're all around. Yeah, and it tastes like a super, super light logger, pilsnery, corny, corn, lots of white and corny. The important thing, though, for why I brought this, Ryan doesn't stop laughing. Is this isn't the only beer I brought. Okay. And I brought this symbolically to show a journey, I guess. You're a fucking miracle man. This beer, the only time I ever drank it was once in college, and we had taken a trip up to Dartmouth, and we were just getting completely shithoused at different fraternities. My buddy Joe got so wasted, he was throwing up in the bathroom, but had to pee. So he ended up pissing himself because he couldn't stop throwing up. Oh God. And then later that night, he's crawling around on all floors underneath the beer pong tables at this frat basement, which is disgusting. And he looks up and he sees me making out with a towney and the look on his face was so horrified. I was like, man, if Joe is pissing and puking on himself and he's this horrified, how ugly is this girl that I'm making out with? I just remember him peeking out from underneath the ping pong table and waking up at me with peer disgust. Yeah, I remember a night of drinking and playing beer pong. And this one asshole I was playing against was playing by a different set of rules. And I don't know if you knew how I could go into too many specifics. But if the ball bounces on the table, you're supposed to be able to swat it. No, no, no, you're not supposed to be able to swat it unless it bounces. And so this guy was saying you could swat it anytime. So he kept throwing the ball, and I just swatted back in his face and say, fuck you. This rule make any sense? Fuck you. I was pretty drunk as being sorry. And Ian and I got into some heated words. And then a little bit later, I go into the bathroom to find this guy sitting on the toilet so ways to go. He's obviously taking the shit. And he also had puked into his underwear, which was down around his ankles. And I was like, yeah, fuck you. Oh, that's the best. You know, I think the last time I had anything resembling Keystone was back in my hometown in Laredo. A couple of my friends got together and rented this trailer park house, you know, like this fucking trailer house, a single wide. And we would hang out and drink all the shittiest beer that you could ever imagine because my buddy Robert worked at this convenience store, this drive through convenience store that sold a bunch of shitty forties and shit. Yeah. So we had a bunch of forties, and one night we drank like crazy, and I blacked out at some point on some kind, like old English or something. And the morning I woke up and I was wet. And it wasn't the good kind of wet. It was, oh, man, my dicks in my hand, who who pissed all over my midsection? It wasn't me because I would never do that. Oh, God, I must have, this, I pissed all over myself in my sleep. Oh, shit. So I'm completely wet and totally mortified. Like I'm totally embarrassed. At the time, I was a very different person. I think I was a little bit less confident. If that happened to me now, I'd be like, that pissed myself better get the hose, take off and run after people with my piss legs. But, but back then I was a terrifying image. Back then I was, I was a last person to wake up too. So everybody had to know, like they had to. I mean, I think they were just being nice and not. Would they have been the friends that would be nice about that? Yeah. Well, the thing is, is that they're not to other people, but they would be that to me, because that tight group, like that group of friends, we were super fucking tight. Respect. Yeah, there was a lot of respect. It was like, okay, so maybe that maybe Rubio pissed his pants. I mean, it's fine. Whatever. But I remember not ever bringing it up to them around that time until way later. And they just like, they didn't remember. But I spent the rest of part of that morning trying to hide the fact that I had pissed myself. And I was just, it was fucking good. Did you ever determine? Did you actually piss yourself? Oh, yeah. I didn't. Oh, fuck yeah. No, it was absolutely pissed. I kept thinking that somehow there's going to be this shy, I'm a long twist all of a sudden, where it's like, no, you never pissed yourself. It was a ghost. No, I got slimed by a pissed ghost. So I remember the last time I had a beer like this. It was when you brought all those fucking malt liquors to this fucking show, the asshole. Oh, there was also that Mexican show that, oh, yeah, I guess so. What episode was that? Ryan 36 or something? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course, Ryan was on that fucking episode. That episode is awesome. Anyway, let's be one of the next beer that you brought. So this was, well, yeah, this second beer that I brought actually shows a little bit of the transition. I thought this was a little bit more important to have this beer. This was initially the beer I was going to bring, but I thought it was too good of an opportunity to pass up. You had to show the growth. And this beer is West Coast IPA. This is a green flash brewing company beer out of San Diego, California, available year round in 22 ounce and 12 ounce bottles, four packs and draft. IBUs is 95, ABV is 7.3, hops have Columbus Centennial and Cascade. This is a menagerie of hops layered throughout the brewing process. Simco for unique fruitiness and great for zest, Columbus for flavor notes, flavor notes. It's a multi-dimensional hop experience, it says. Okay. It's a very dark IPA. It's almost copper, like straight up copper. Yeah, a little bit of haze. Maybe like an amber. Yeah. Nice amount ahead too. Mine's sticking around real well. Mine's sticking around pretty well too. It smells really awesome. No shit. Nothing like that Keystone. There's a little bit of lacing going on in my glass. Yeah, me too. It smells like fruity pebbles. It smells like somebody spilled the fruity pebbles in the bong water. Mike. But here's something that's really cool. I've never gotten this out of this beer, but I smell a little bit of coffee. I can get that. Yeah, a lot of pineapple. Pineapple, pine, grass, danky, mossy. It smells fucking awesome. And it drinks really nicely. It doesn't taste like two hoppies, not that aggressive. I think it's just a nice smooth IPA. It's got a really awesome molt backbone to it. There's strawberry candies with the jelly in the center. Yeah. I really like that about this beer. I like the fact that it smells like it's going to be aggressively bitter hoppy, right? But then you have a sip of it and the bitterness isn't that huge. I mean, it's a lot more hot flavor, lots of dank stuff. And there is a bitterness there, but it's not running you over. It's not like palate record. I think it's actually pretty well balanced with the malts, actually. There's a nice, almost like a sweetness that's there. Yeah, real biscuity or bready kind of malt backbone, a little bit of caramel, but melts really, really nicely with the hot profile. And here's why I brought this beer. This was the first beer I gave a ranking of number one two in our very first episode, which was our IPA episode. Nice. Yeah. One of the two lost episodes. Yes. They weren't that good necessarily, I guess, in retrospect, or at least they don't fairly represent the style of show we do now. Right. It is episode three, I think, ended up coming into its own. Episode one really sounded like four people who have never recorded anything before. And Grant and I had recorded stuff before, but I think you and I had never had to focus on hosting a show in this sort of way where we have to talk about the thing that we're tasting and articulate stuff. So it's a lot of umbs and us and it was really low energy. It was a recorded practice session. Actually, that and the second one, which was when Mike was brought in. No, no, no. The second one was a pale ale show that we had our buddy Brett McLaughlin. Oh, we had Brett and then Mike came on at episode three. Mike was just solid gold. It's right from this way. We didn't get rid of any of those episodes with me in it, so you fucking asshole. We're only the episode 100. We'd be in a sarcastic bastard. We might nuke the first 100 episodes. And the reason you got rid of those episodes is because you're afraid of people who might hear one and enjoy it and then go back to the catalog and be like, Oh, never mind. Yeah. Well, no, because when people start listening to a new show, a lot of times people will start with the first episode. They'll just go back and go, we'll start from the beginning and then they'll hear that and go, Oh, shit, this isn't good. So yeah, I didn't want the first show that somebody listens to to be a crappy fucking show. Right. Yeah. For anybody who's interested out there, the bottles of West Coast IPA that we've opened, Greenalasha, they have a best buy date of May 19th of this year. For those other people interested, Grant has already unbuttoned his shirt. It's hot in here, man. I'm dying. There's an extra person right on my shoulder. Yeah, they get all sisters here. We're we're cheek to cheek. Yeah. Ryan is my Iago and he's making me sweat. Oh, you guys are so cute together. But that first episode, I mean, despite the fact that you took it off air, I guess. Yeah. I still had very fond memories of the whole experience. It was very exciting, trying out beer and trying to be a beer aficionado, even though I didn't know shit about beer. Yeah. And I still don't necessarily think I know that much. I know a little bit more. This was the beer I gave number one. And I know that you gave it second to last. Josh gave it last. And Anastasia, true to form 100 episodes later, didn't give rankings at all. Like, I'm not ranking. Yeah, there were a lot of strong IPAs on that episode. And I really like this beer. I mean, me giving it number four and number five back then doesn't really say very much about how much I like that beer. It was just in comparison of those others. And this is a damn good beer. It's a fantastic IPA. Yeah, this is one of those beers that always surprises me. I'm always, fuck, I really like this beer one. I don't drink it more often. Seriously, I haven't had this beer in years. I get shocked by this beer every time. That doesn't even make sense. I know. It's very infrequent that I have a green flash IPA. I mean, I don't know why that is. Oh, I don't like them. That's why I don't have them. I always think it's going to be more bitter and it's going to just destroy your palate. Like a ruination or something like that, which I don't really enjoy visiting that often. And I'm always surprised by how not aggressive this beer is. Oh, it's aggressive to me. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. As we're swapping stories about beerist episodes, what do you guys think is the most memorable episode you guys have recorded? That's really hard to say. There's been so many good ones. There's in a particular one that you guys really feel just stands out though. For me, I think one of my favorite ones, not necessarily because I like the way the show plays in my ears when I listen to it, but just doing the show, there's a couple of them. There's the Hill Farmstead show that we did. Yeah. That was just amazing. I never had such great beers in a lineup like that. It was wonderful. And another one that was just super interesting was the one that Ryan suggested was the cans versus bottle episode. And I think that was like episode eight or nine or it was really early in there. It was such a fun change of format too. It was great. And it was so illuminating on the differences between those two storage formats. I went in skeptical on that episode as the person is like, I don't think I really like cans because I just didn't like the beer that I was drinking out of cans. And now, I know part of the reason I don't get west coast IPA is because it's in bottles. When there's so many good IPAs on the shelves and cans, I'm just like, oh, fuck it, this can't be better. Yeah. I really like the malt liquor episode. Dude, that one is so funny to listen to. It really was. And I felt like that was one where we kind of let our guards down just a little bit and just like have just a lot of fucking fun with it. I remember feeling really terrible at the end of that though. I had like a big headache from the nazias beer. Dude, we got a headache by beer number five. I was like, oh, I feel miserable. It was awful. It was awful. And well, my funniest moment, I think, was looking up at Anastasia during the Mexican beer show. I think we did like 14 beers on episode 14. It was by beer number 11. When I looked up at Anastasia and her face was like swollen and she had like spittle all up and down the sides of her mouth. And like her eyes were all like red and bloodshot. She's like, and feel good. You look like a beast on you. We did an extra episode that was like a Florida beers episode, I think. With Drew that Mike brought you down the little extra or whatever. Oh, everything was so gross. We just kept laughing about it. But that was also the episode that we first had that indeed. Well, it's a day tripper. Yeah. Oh, that was such a good beer. That was fucking amazing. Worked out really well. We should move on to our next one. Yeah, if you grant, we appreciate that, man. Hey, I appreciate you guys. I appreciate listeners and it's been a great experience. He was never heard from again. Okay, who's going to go next? I'll go next. Okay, right? Yeah. So I brought old engine oil by Harvey. I should have practiced. Thanks. Harvesting, I think is harvest doom. I'm glad it's not me. Yeah, no, I haven't felt more literate my entire life until right now reading Scottish words. Harvesting old engine oil. Old engine oil. Yeah. The story on their website is that this beer was born in 2000 and is the winner of the first ever Tesco beer challenge was always designed to have a thick dark goopy appearance. We piled in the oats to smooth out the bitterness from the roasted barley and laden super high temperature mash to make the work less fermentable. The result is a really black beer that has a greater sweetness and fuller flavor than many other stouts and porters, as well as being surprisingly light and texture. The specs is it has glenna, east Kent goldings, and fuggles for the hops, roasted barley and oats for the moats, and it's 6% ABV with 40 IBUs. Very, very good. And I haven't had this in forever, me neither. I haven't had it actually since probably the memory. Seven years ago, yeah, about the memory. It just recently came to Texas. I actually had this a few weeks ago, but it actually came to Texas way back in the day, and then fell off and then started coming back. So, yeah, and I think I had it way back then, and then not again until today when I'm about to have it. I think when I had it back then, it had been sitting on the shelves and then stopped being here and was just still there. It was actually still really good. I'm taking a look at this beer. It is super dark with a nice little reddish copper highlight at the advantage. Great head on this. Gorgeous. Small bubbles off white. So, I get like, it smells really good. It smells really good. I get chocolate malt, cocoa powder. There's something a little dusty about it. Cocoa powder and dark chocolate, and it's roasty. It's really, really roasty. Oatmeal and dimetapp. What? I don't get any dimetapp. That's what I smell. I don't even know what dimetapp is. It's like robotussin, but it doesn't smell as good. Smoked meat some baloney. Yeah, it's definitely smoky. Yeah, okay. I can get a little bit of that caramelized umami meaty thing. Definitely baloney. The Slim Jam where it's the cheese stick and the meat stick. I'm in. It's awesome. But with a lot of chocolate and some roasting is like, oh, yeah sure. So, it smells like a road trip. Gas station stop. Cool. Perfect. Well, that's delicious. Yeah. That's about what I remember when I first ordered it. So, the reason I brought this beer, and I had a hard time with it because Ruby was like, what beer really has like a lasting memory with you? And in general, beer does, but not any specific beer stands out too much in my memory. But this was the very first beer I ever bought at a bar when I was 21 years old. I remember seeing the name Old Engine Oil, and I came out of the Nitro Tap, which I'd never seen before in my life. Oh, man, you lucked out. It poured out so slowly that they'd hit the tab and then just walk away forever. And it just oozed out the presentation of the beer made everything. And you were like, oh, should I put that in my body? Absolutely. Yes. So, now I kind of get it. It didn't really make sense before. This isn't quite a stout or a porter. It's somewhere between. Right. What is it? Old viscosity. To me, I think is kind of like an homage to this. I just had one recently, and it's got a very similar mouth feel. It's got a similar roastingness and chocolatiness. The hops are a bit different. Right. But it's highly reminiscent to me. And obviously, this came first. It makes sense. I can't even remember the first beer I had. I remember when I turned 21, I went to Trudy's, which is this Tex-Mex chain here in Austin. I was trying to get my buddies to go with me. And they're like, well, I got studied today, but all of them said they had to say for their finals. Yeah. I was like, you assholes. But they're like, we can go for like an hour with you down the street, because we lived right by Trudy's at the time. We went and I had their Meximartinis, which are these margaritas. They make them pretty strong, and they limit you to two of them. And I remember having one of them, and halfway through it, like sitting up off of the bench. I guess I was laying down. I must have blacked out or something or just lost sense of whatever. I went, I went, man, how long have we been here? And they're like 30 minutes. That is the best. That was my 21st birthday. Yeah, it's amazing. So I was really lucky that my college, the local bar, happened to be at the time the number one rated bar in the country. Oh, where was this? Called the Monandove and Amherst, Massachusetts. Very cool. And it tells you something about bars and beer culture in the last 10 years that this could have ever been considered the number one bar. Really? They were number one because they had 15 craft taps or something like that. I mean, it wasn't that much, but they're also strategically located next to the Shelton Brothers importers. Oh, yeah. So we got everything. That's perfect. And it was the only bar you could reasonably walk back to campus from, or crawl if you needed to. So all of my friends, we turned 21 and we grew up and turned into beer snobs because of the Monandove. Wow. You did so many awesome memories there. So all of your friends who went to the place became beer geeks. Absolutely. That's great. So many friends from college are beer geeks and we'll trade back and forth. And anytime we meet up, it's always very beer centric. Next weekend, I'm going to San Francisco, where a bunch of my friends are, and again, all my college buddies. So we're going to be going to the Mckeller bar. We're going to go to city beer and trap his provisions and all that sort of stuff. Man, so that led to you being a very avid home brewer also. Yes. Tell us about some of the home brewers you make. Oh, no. Well, when you're out there, definitely check out the way. Wait, no, no bullshit. Wait, what, no? Why don't you ever talk about your home brewers? Yes. So I got into home brewing maybe two or three years ago with a couple of buddies from grad school. And just like anybody who started off making extract beers that are a thousand IBUs and 12% are fucking awful. But as of late, I would say that most of the beer that I make are usually conditioned with bread. I love fruit, so almost all my beers will have some sort of fruit additions to them. And I think probably my most quote unquote famous home brew I make is a Blondale, which is just so good with shazz bittering and just dry hop the fuck out of it with some American hops. So it kind of highlights up a hop where the bittering flavor is just more on the noble side. So it kind of balances it out real nicely. Yeah. So anytime you offer me a home brew, almost every time you do it, it's fantastic. But when you give it to me, you say, yeah, this is the Blondale I usually make. It's like, fuck yeah, awesome. And this thing, I just pulled this bottle out. I'm not even sure what it is, but it's been in there for two years. And I have a taste and it could be fucking amazing or, eh, put that down for another two years. Yeah, exactly. Because I mean, sometimes it's just like, wow, how did you do this? This is, oh, it's a raspberry thing. I think it's too sour, but I'm probably going to blend it with something else. It's fucking delicious. He's like, I know it's delicious. Or it's like, what happened to this bread? It tastes like a rubber ball from a paddle. Yeah. Yeah. You're being really nice about it when you're not normally. I'm just throwing the ground and I cleaned it up. I don't think I did with that glass. Yeah. Yeah. I've since gotten away from experimenting with bread. And a lot of that's due to fermentation room. I don't have enough places to keep my beers cold. The stash there. And I've noticed that if you ferment with bread and you let it get warm, it gets really fucking bad. Right. Over the summer, I went away and my carboys all sat out in a closet and they got very warm over the summer and I came back home and had a dump like almost 30 gallons of beer into the street. Oh, no. Because it was just like putrid, nasty bread flavors. So now it's normally just bought a condition with bread and get some of those characters later on. What were you going to ask, Michael? I'm sorry. I introduced. Oh, no. I was going to say, when you go out to San Francisco next week, definitely check out Mickler Bar. It was gorgeous. Yeah, I'm excited. That's, I haven't been back to the barrier since that opened up. So that's high on my list of places to visit. I was really excited because when I went to San Francisco last week, there was a bunch of places that I hit up. But Mickler Bar, I really wanted to check out the sour room because when they first opened, they had like bottles of 98 and 99 oud goos from Drie Fontainean. They've got none of that now. You drink it all? No, they, no, they just have really overpriced bottles of like standard Cantillon and stuff like that. I didn't get anything from the sour room. But I will say, when you're out there, there is a relatively new brewery, I believe that's out there, Rare Barrel. This place should be on everybody's watch list. Holy shit, they make some incredible sours. Rare Barrel? Rare Barrel in San Francisco. I don't know if they bottle anything. I don't think that they do. I think everything that they have is currently on draft only. But they make amazing sours. Amazing sours. I don't know exactly where they hail from. It's somewhere in California. But definitely try to get some of their stuff. But you were there. I was there for Pliny, for Pliny the Younger. So that's in San Francisco? Where I had it was, I had the Rare Barrel stuff at Mickler Bar. When I was disappointed with the sour room downstairs, I came back upstairs and they had a number of really interesting hopped beers that were collaborations between several different breweries. And then the other thing that they had on the list was these sours from Rare Barrel, some of the more amazing beers that I had on that trip. But I also checked out Russian River. And the line for Pliny was three hours long. That's incredible. Yeah, I don't know that I'd weigh that Russian River for that beer again. Absolutely not. So maybe a few days later, when we were actually in San Francisco, we found ourselves maybe like a block or two away from Toronado after we had finished breakfast. Oh, great. And when we got to Toronado, the line was seven people deep, like waiting for younger. Hey, Martine, you go wait in the line, we're going to walk around the block and smoke this joint. So we did that. We came back, and the line was then like 30 people deep. And we just cut right back in line where we left our friends. So it was magical. I don't know. Younger was was really good. Younger was really, really good. But that said, I don't know that it was any better than elder or blind pig. And I got blind pig bottles that were six days old. It was so awesome. Do you still have any left? No, you fuck. I drank them all dude. In California. Nope, they didn't. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Hoppy made it back with me. Okay, good point, good point. Every second that beer continues to exist. It's getting worse. I can't eat. Yeah, the Toronado secret for a Pliny release is definitely the way to do it because they always get four kegs and they tap one on Saturday and then they tap one on Sunday so you can double up on it. And then they randomly released the other two. Yeah, I was there on the Friday. I was there on a Friday when they tapped it. And the Toronado is a fucking kick ass bar, man. That's a really cool little place. And I understand that Pliny the Younger is also just a beer. You know, I mean, it's just a beer. I've never had it. I want to try it still, but I don't have crazy expectations. I don't think it's going to be like, Oh, Jesus walked on this beer. I'm so excited to try this Dark Lord beer. I needed to try it just because it was one of the last whales that I had on my list that I had never been able to try before. It's same here. And a few years back, they would allow growler fills of it. And there was one that made it too Austin. There was one guy Charles that used to come out to the tastings. Right. And he had one of those and I totally missed out on it. And then every single time that I wanted to try it again, they stopped doing growler fills of it. So it was like, Oh, now I have to make it out to California. And I finally fucking did it. It's because people are greedy dick bags. Yeah, seriously. Anyway, thanks Ryan. We appreciate the hell out of you sharing that beer with us in the story. And thanks for being here on the show. Yeah, dudes. I ready go to number five. Dude, I love it. Thank you guys. I consider Ryan another host of the show. I mean, you've been on here so many fucking times. You're practically family. And here's the thing, Rubio, if you died of like, fatness or something like that, it's gonna happen sooner or later. What do you mean? So when you die of fatness, the grand an anastasia and I will carry on and we'll only let Ryan on sometimes. Like this tastes like Rubio's ashes. I get it, but you don't have to make it ugly in here too. I'm sorry. I'm not the only one. That's a good point. So here's what I want to know. Okay. Anastasia, have you made a fucking decision yet as to which beer we're actually going to open? Yeah, we're going to open both of them. Awesome. Yeah, fuck you executive decision. Oh, you know, it's great. Bitch. I just wanted to throw that back in there because we've neglected the drinking game. I know. Which one am I doing first, Anastasia? Because it's getting warm. Okay. Okay. So Anastasia brought two different beers and Anastasia's been here since the very beginning. Except for the time I died and you put me in the trunk in the desert. Yeah. So the reason you had a hard time is your stories were too good and like you didn't know its story to drop. No, for sure. Yeah. I'm just such a beer celebrity and I have so many good stories that I didn't want to, you know, make you all stories look bad. Well, it's kind of not fair because you work in a bar. So you have access to so many stories revolving around beer. Yeah, they're all like, is it time to go home yet? I'd love to hear one of these stories. What we're actually saying is Anastasia had no idea what she was going to do. What we're really trying to say is Anastasia hates this idea and she thinks it's complete bullshit. Why? I have no stories attached to beer. I sure. I'll drink a beer. I'll be like, oh yeah, I remember that one time hanging out with my buddies on vacation. But I don't have some big grand story and I'm a terrible storyteller and fuck you, it's just beer. You're not creative. I'm not creative at all. It is just beer. Yes. But there are moments that we've had. I mean, I could name four or five of them. So then I should have just let you pick my beer. No, but I mean, I could give you examples of stuff where it was like, oh, here's a fucking awesome story attached to a particular beer. Maybe I just don't remember any of them. Okay, so what was this first beer that we're having? This one is from Smuddy Nose, which is located in New Hampshire and it is Brett and I. It's part of their short batch series. I believe this was number two in the series and it's essentially a Belgian pale with pretendomizes. The label says malt beverage aged in oak barrels. I want to say it's about 6% give or take. Okay. I'm not sure how old it is either. And it smells awesome. Well, it looks like a it's like a pumpkin orange almost. Yeah. It looks like whiskey. It's a little more orange than whiskey, but yeah. You also said I could bring a beer that's been in my cellar that I've been wanting to try. Sure. And this is definitely one of those beers. Where did you get this? I think this was an extra and a trade. Okay. This is how long I've had this beer a year, two years, maybe three years. I traded with somebody who I don't even remember who that person is now. And I got a Brett and I not expecting it as an extra. So smelling this thing, I get a lot of Chardonnay barrel. This is Chardonnay. I couldn't find a lot of him online. Weird white wine barrel. It definitely strikes me as Chardonnay. I think you're right on point. And there's like a lot of like rotten peach in the nose or. Oh man. Can't get like rotten strawberry though. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I smell some acetic acid too. Yeah. There's definitely some rotten fruit thing going on here in the best way. Yeah. And it smells like it's going to be really tart, dry, and rotten fruit. I mean, it smells pretty fucking good. So I want you to go ahead and taste it. Everything that you just mentioned is everything that I taste. Get out of my head. Get into my car. Like everything. You're too young for that song. Did we just billy ocean out right now? She doesn't even notice that. I just know how terrible that song is. That's my story. What are you doing? Really don't like I'm it's really hot. You put your shirt back on? Yeah. I think Grant's really uncomfortable. No, I'm good. I like your hair right now. Yeah. It's getting all curly and like bill night of sight. It's a humidity. It's puffing it up. Can we put the wind down? No, it's fine. I'm rolling with it. So so the only information that I could find online like on the actual somebody knows up sight was from 2007. Wow. So I'm thinking maybe this is from a seven or oh eight, but that sounds kind of unlikely. Right. Like their whole site hasn't been up days since then? No, no, it has, but this is the only information about that particular beer. Do we know if this is 100% Britannia mices? There's no way it can be. There's seriously not that much information about it. So you get a little bit of that bread, but there's also a bunch of souring bacteria and it's probably some saccharomyces. Well, to me, there's something that's reminiscent of like sanctification, which is also 100% Britannia mices, and it does take on a kind of sourish twinge that I wouldn't normally associate with Britannia mices. Well, yeah, but that's barrel age. Yeah, I don't think that's truly 100% bread. That's maybe all they pitch, but that's not at all that gets into it. Yeah, whatever else is in that barrel also influences. Sure. But fuck man, I'm really enjoying this. This is delicious. It is a bunch of rotten sour fruit. The website says they use Britannia C's collosianii. What? Britannia C's collosianii with chame yeast. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. There's not a lot of, they're not really good about providing information about their beers. But tasting this, so it's a bunch of sour, rotten fruit and wine barrel. I mean, lots of white wine barrel. Yeah, absolutely. It's really good. Really flat, not a lot of carbonation. Not a lot of that at all. It's got like a funky, farty, cheesy thing going on. That's a little bit like a passion fruity or persimony. I don't know, like there's a weird fruit thing going on. Oh man, you know what would be really good with this? What? Humbled fog. Itch. I like that. Two buzzwords rolled into one. That's amazing. It's also got a little bit slimy. It's kind of like this watered-down, syrupy quality. I absolutely agree with that. Slimy, rotten pineapple. Yeah, the slickness is the lactic acid. Yeah, the mouthfeel leaves a lot to be desired because yeah, it is flat. It is a little slimy. It's a little weird. Grant doesn't like it. No. He's unhappy. No, no, no. I like it. I was shaking my head because I was about to move into the mic and then I decided against it and then Ryan called me out on it and then there's this whole exchange. I love it. I love the way your hair bounces right now. Your hair's amazing right now. So are you ever going to reform the smiths? Oh, I love doing the Thompson twins. Remember when Millie Vanilli here, you sat his drug locks? Girl, you know it's girl, you know it's girl, you know it's girl. It's not forever. No. Anastasia, is there not a story to this at all? No, I have you not been listening. I've been telling you my story and you're just blowing it over. Thanks, jerk. I'm sorry. What was it? This is why I don't tell stories. Women have a way because everybody interrupts me and no one listens. That's my story. Way to go. She got it in a beer trade. She doesn't know where it came from or how to die. It's just like the worthless story. I heard the story. It's just a shit story. It's all thanks for listening, Mike. That makes me feel good. You're welcome. I'm an active listener. I heard that too. That was a story. Yeah, you didn't say it had to be a good fucking story. You said have a story. So there's a story. Now what else do you want from me? I use a word interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. That's a very interesting story. It was an extra in a trade. I don't remember. Suck it. Why don't we move on to the next one that you have? Sure, because that story is going to be way better. Surely it's a story. That's what I was just going to say. You took it out of my mouth. Wow. Well done. But I guess the story that we can glean from this is this is exactly what it is like working with that estate. I hate everything. She hates everything and she just doesn't like to play by any sorts of rules. She will scoff at it and kick and scream. So anytime that she didn't give rankings over the last several hundred episodes or so, it's been a big deal. Like I don't want to get rankings because maybe I want to like this beer in this context and then I get it. You know, that's absolutely fucking fun. No, it puts baby in a goddamn corner, not even you. You put baby in the goddamn corner every time. The thing is, neurosis does that. Right, right. But I mean, we also have to do a show where there's a format involved. Sure. How about the listeners write in and they can tell you how awful I am and then you can kick me off. No, nobody's ever done that. Well, one person did that once. My crap. I wrote that in. Bitch, real letter. Yes. But but more times than not, it's just, oh, we love anesthesia. And I'm like, why? Because I'm the rule. I'm a fucking wild card, bitches. You are a wild card. I'm the Charlie of the group. You're the sweet D of the group. No, I'm not the fucking sweet D. Real quick back to the Brett and I, I had a difficult time finishing that beer. It started becoming really drying and the oxidation in it started becoming overwhelming. I just threw it back. I probably dumped it, but I threw it back. I loved how it started. It was a weird transformation. Not too many beers have ever done that for me. I'm like, mmm, this is delicious. I'm like, I don't know if I want to drink anymore. I had to do the same thing with that beer. And it's probably too old. It is. I think it is. But I mean, it started out really great. So what are we drinking now? The next beer is New Glares, Brewing Companies, Raspberry Tarte. And they're based out of New Glares, Wisconsin. And this is a Wisconsin ale brewed with raspberries. I believe we may have had this on the show before. We have. So yeah, go back and listen to that show so you can get all the information because they also don't like to give a lot of information. They really don't. So is this what it's like working with me? You don't get a lot of information? No, we get a lot of information from you. Just not a lot of cooperation. Okay. They rhyme. Sure. So this one was also in my cellar. It was in the back. So I'm assuming it's been there for over a year. Do we get this on our New Glares trip? I don't know. Maybe? That's the last time I got New Glares. And before that, I think it's when you gave me a bottle before the trip. So this has the potential to be two years old. And I remember thinking like, well, I don't know if this is even going to cellar well, but this was one of my experiment beers because it's so low in ABV. I think it's under 6%, maybe even closer to four and a half. Yeah. And I wanted to see since it had fruit in it, if it would cellar, and if it would cellar well. That's my story. Take a look at this. This is a reddish brown color, really hazy. You can't see through it. Decent of overhead. It smells a lot like raspberries. Oh, yeah? It's jammy fucking raspberries. I mean, it smells like you've boiled the fuck out of raspberries and sugar. It smells a lot jamier than a fresh bottle does. The fresh bottle says some of that tartness in the nose. I don't pick up on that so much in this bottle. I don't pick up so much. I don't pick up. I got you all in check. I can't handle the heat, buddy. It's so hot. I know. I get out of the kitchen. We're almost done. Yeah, I don't pick up on it that much in this bottle, though. Okay. I have just taken a sip and I really love how this is aged. Well, also with the age in the nose, smelling this beer is giving me a lot more of a pulpiness and a seediness to that raspberry. Definitely. Definitely. I don't really remember it having last time I had it. I get some plum and some kinks. Yeah, right? But it's actually held up a lot better than I was expecting it to be. No, this is fantastic. Are we talking taste right now? Yeah. Because this tastes like heartburned to me. What? Oh, man. It's like I take a sip and it just comes right back up burning and going, "Oh, man, you should have taken some tums." I think you're just a fucking old man. Am I older than you? I am older than you, you fucking baby. How old are you? Older. You're like different shades. I'm 30. I'm 30. You guys with 31, bitch. Oh, God. I'm 38. Eat a dick. Yeah, you're ancient. You're like dust. Okay, let's get them out of this for your tastes. Good. It tastes old like Rubio. Yeah, it has a moderate amount of acidity. I still get a bright jammy raspberry thing. With the age, it's developed this tamarind quality, like tamarind soda. Have you ever had that before? Yes. Horitos. Yeah. Horitos like a tamarind soda. And it's got a lot of that right underneath of it. That's incredible. It's gotten, I almost want to say, more tart for longer in terms of the finish. It actually finishes really, really tart for me. It does. Normally, there's a very strong raspberry character of the fruit, not so much of a highlight on necessarily the tartness, but I love how this is popping now. Yeah, it still has that sweetness there. It hasn't completely dried out or anything. No, and there's a lot of body to this beer too. Yeah. And when the tartness has that residual linger to it, it's a full-bodied tartness. It's not a single note where it's kind of overwhelming on the palate. And again, with the kind of the sweeter, fuller bodied to the beer, it's really nice. It's very jam-like. I mean, it smells like jam, and it kind of has a similar sort of mouth feel that you would expect from a jam-like beer. And there's a caramel note to this as well as cinnamon that really carries through. Dude, but it's dead on like tamarind, tamarind soda. Like I'm a big Mexican. I'm big on being Mexican, right? We see. So, I've eaten a lot of Mexican candies. Yeah, you have. This is just today. You know, yeah, today. And this has a lot of similarities with that. And it doesn't have that when it's fresh at all. I have another story. Is it a good one? Nope. What? So, this is a sentimental story for all you listeners out there. Swoo. So, like two years ago in Rubio and I went to Chicago. We flew in to Chicago, got our rental car, then immediately drove like two and a half hours to New Glares. Yeah, we got there at like four o'clock and then we're going to close at five. Yeah, we had like an hour maybe left in the top room into the self-guided tour and drink beer. And I remember it was really pretty outside. It was a really nice drive. I mean, driving through Wisconsin to New Glares was just gorgeous. I mean, once we got really close to the brewery, there's all these like picture rest farmhouses. Like it was just really, really pretty and clean inside. Yeah. And then your mind was getting blown going up that trail, that little road to the brewery and seeing all those gnomes. So, they have those other like huge gnome obsession and you're freaking out. Okay, have. She has a tattoo of a gnome now. You were just like, I'll pull over. I need to take a picture with that gnome and I'll pull over. I need to take a picture of that gnome. It was just like gnome of Palosa. And then Oscar Maya Wienomobile is there. The Oscar, the other Wienomobile and you did a picture of that. Who's Paul Oliver? Paul Oliver? I said pull over. That makes more sense, yeah. It's like, why is Paul Oliver there? We were swiggers. Yeah, me and Paul Oliver, double-teamed, you know, rickety ladder. What is that called? Holy shit, I don't know where that is going. I think it's the Eiffel Tower, the Wobbly, the Wobbly Ace. It's also called a spit roast. Yeah, yeah, Wobbly Ace. So it's a few things after the Davis dip. Eiffel says you're those? That was a pretty good story, though. Going to visit New Glares, that's cool. Yeah, that's it. That's all you get from me. But there was more to that story. You don't like your feelings. No, but it was a really. Arrested development. Goddamn it. It was a really cool trip. I mean, just that first part of it starting it out at New Glares and drinking a bunch of their beers and looking out across that. What the fuck was that? It was like a there was a hill and a big. Well, I mean the green area. They've got two different brew spots and one of them is open to the public and one of them is not. Though that's open to the public is on a hill. Right. But we slammed back like all the beers. We had a bunch of beers. Grant would have died of heartburn. Trying to slam all those back. They were all so good. Like everything that we had there, I think I had one of each of the things that they had on tap pretty much. And it was all fantastic. And after we left, we stopped at this corner store, the shitty corner store that had a whole ton of cheeses on sale. And all these dried meats, they had like charcuterie and cheeses. And it was this random store and they had such an amazing beer selection. You don't remember this at all? No. It was fucking cool. Like we stopped. It was in Wisconsin. No, nothing. No. You remember all those good times you guys had? She remembers like none of them. All I remember is the beer. Barely. Hey, what day is it guys? Where am I? I'm pretty sure it's a Thursday. Do I have Alzheimer's? All the way Alzheimer's. I think Mike gave it to me when he touched me earlier. You have all the hymers. I think we should take a break. Dude, you look so ready for a break. I'm dying. I've lost 10 pounds up here in this sauna. Okay. I'm ready for bed. We're going to take a break and the next half, it's going to be a party fest with laughter and stories of divorce and death. Wasn't there a song about singing? Stay tuned, folks. The last session has to stop whining. I was singing a song when I don't know the words. It's about feelings. Wow. You know you were not singing a song. Nope. So by definition, there was no singing taking place. [laughter] Ah, break! [music] I walk along the city streets. You used to walk along with me. And every step I take reminds me of just how used to be. How can I forget you, girl? There is always something there to remind me. Always something there to remind me. Yeah, that's definitely not the most hipster thing I've ever heard or seen. Just last Saturday night, Gian and I were down at Volstead on E6. Of course. Sometimes you end up there by accident. We saw a guy lay another person's cigarette with one of the bow and tinder sets. He got down on his knees, he pulled out the bow and started rubbing it back and forth, and Gian suddenly starts fattically snapping at it. Practically starts even getting... He's starting a fire with wood and a bow and we turn around and we're like, what the fuck is happening and like just in awe? And he gets up and he grabs this piece of charcoal that he had gotten heating up with the bow and stick and lights another guy's cigarette with it. Did they just thaw him out? What the fuck is happening at Volstead? That's Nigel. No! You don't know this guy's name. Yeah, no, he's my friend. It's Nigel. It's gotta be. God damn it, Nigel, you suck. Are you fucking kidding me right now? What other name could it fucking be? Austin wins the hipster crud just due to this asshole. That guy has fucked up the curve for Portland. Yeah, seriously. And he got on his unicycle to road home with his teepee. Pretty soon. I bet the wood was locally sourced. Yeah. And he chopped it himself. What a piece of shit that guy is. The worst piece of shit. God damn it. Oh, I'm out here on a break from curing my own meat. I hope he fucking dies of dysentery or something we've solved already. Some way you die on Oregon Trail. Yeah, no shit. Will you fort the river? He's like, yeah, I've got my Tinder set in cholera. Making his own moonshine. What a piece of shit. Does he realize what year it is? He's trying to impress people. With how fucking retro he is? Yeah, I guess. I remember when people were like, oh, look at me, I'm so retro. I'm like 80s, dressed 80s. I'm so retro. I'm a fucking caveman. Yeah, he's like, I'm 17, 80s. B.C. He's fucking 17, 80, B.C. combing his hair with a fish skeleton. He craps his own light bulbs and shit. He just like rapes women because that was trendy back then. I would really appreciate it if you guys wouldn't talk about my boyfriend like that. Oh, you're like this B.C. trick. You should see what I do to my women. Yeah, it's all the shit. You know, you're in the bedroom. You might challenge him to a fight, but he's got his own set of dueling pistols. They were a gift from me. I'm going to hit up with my car next time. I see him riding this front big wheel bicycle. Gonna go to another beer. Mike, you were me. What do you want to do? Oh, man, it's a toss to the coin. You know what, I'll go. You want to go? Yeah. Okay. Hey, do you guys remember that time that Walt Powell died? Yeah, he was riding a big wheel front wheel bicycle. I hit on with my car. He used to some light cigarettes with his bow stick. So the beer that I brought, Cantillon Fufune, is available in bottles and on draft and it is 5% ABV. Okay. Let's just say, truncated story. They got a lot of apricots from a place. Did I take them? I really glad you researched this. I researched it like 5 minutes after I got here. So basically, Cantillon was meeting with somebody from France who also grows apricots. Okay. And they decided to age apricots with some 2-year-old lambic. What they do is they actually ship most of the bottles to the region in France where the apricots come from. And a lot of the people in that region consider this beer to be a local beer because of the locally sourced apricots from that area. And the fact that most of those bottles go to that region. That makes sense. Makes way more sense than lighting a cigarette with a fucking bow and arrow. So the way that this beer all ties into my life, this beer actually changed the course of my life. I first through the very first tasting that I held at the draft house almost 7 years ago now. Wow. That's a long time ago now. Yeah, it was. And I was definitely a young and in terms of my beer drinking career. My wife was in grade school. Yeah. Was. Wow. With her Hello Kitty backpack and her baby bob shirt. That was also the first day that I met Walt Powell. And he brought absolutely amazing beers. And a lot of people out there maybe don't know the story behind Walt Powell. A lot of you probably do. But he was a fixture in the beer scene here. And all over the fucking place. Out rate beer. I mean, he was like, he was a moderator. He was one of the main founders or at least main moderators of rate beer. Yeah. His username was just Walt. Yeah, exactly. He showed up with beers that I had only read about at that time. And figured I would never have any chance of ever trying. Westy 12, he brought. Angel Cher. Kovet Itami. Imperial Brown Goose from Goose Island. There were so many amazing beers that I got to try because of this guy. And when he busted this out, everybody else that was there that was more experienced than I was got really excited. And it was a four-year-old bottle of Fufune. He busted it out and he looks at me and he looks at me and he says, oh, have you ever had a real lambic or a sour beer? And I'd never had it before. Yeah, Lindemans. I've had that. Yeah. I hadn't even had Lindemans at that point in time. Good. And I told him, no, I hadn't tried anything like this. And he got this kind of twinkle in his eye. And he was like, oh, I can't wait for you to try this. I'm gonna blow this hippie's mind. Yeah, exactly. And I knew that he would have really loved it if I had completely been taken aback and was disgusted by the beer that I was about to have. He would have cut you down. Oh, yeah, yeah. Walt had the most wicked fucking sense of humor. Like, that guy was meme strategically in the best way. He was so fucking funny. Like, he was so funny and so mean. When I first met him was at another of the bottle shares. And Rubio and Walt were basically like attached to the hips, just giggling back and forth to each other. Well, they weren't sucking each other's dicks. They were sucking each other's dicks. It was really grody at first. But then it was kind of endearing. It was beautiful. It got funny. Yeah, it got really funny. Yeah, that's why I used to carry around wet naps with me. Because that dicks smells like dried shrimp. I'm sorry. And you're asshole. Yeah, absolutely. After a while. I knew that he would have really laughed and had a good time with it if I really would have hated this beer. But he loved it even more that my immediate reaction was one of all. I had no idea that beer could taste this way. It completely changed my outlook on what beer is and how it can possibly taste. I mean, I've taken trips to Belgium now because of this beer. And I'll go ahead and pour it now because I've talked enough about this. That's fine. And Walt and I were pretty good friends. We really got close in the last three years before he died. I think it was the fact that he and I both have very similar senses of humor. That's just how we got along. That's how we related to one another. Because politically, we were very different. We agreed on some things here and there. It was just one of those situations where there was a guy that I connected with. So fully. And any time we hung out, it was just non-stop laughter. Texting each other at odd hours of the night. And he'd send me a picture of his legs while he was taking a shit. You know, it's like taking a shit. And that's just like, that's the guy, you know? And fast forward after he died very suddenly. How old was he? He was 33. Yeah, very, very suddenly. And nobody was expecting it. And we actually thought it was a prank when we found out the first time because that's his sense of humor. Like he would fake his own death. Yeah, for a joke. I think he's still faked his own death and he's probably going to reveal himself here in the next few minutes. Just having Andy Kaufman. Hey, do you get it? He called this show The Queerists. And he suggested we taste five dudes next time. He said that. But yeah, he died very suddenly. And one of the things that was really fulfilling to me. And it was a very cool thing for me. And I'm starting to step onto your story. No, no, no. Walt is also a very personal friend of mine too. He used to work at Flix Brewhouse in Round Rock, Texas. And he was super proud of that job. Like he was the director of operations there. They're a movie theater that brews their own beer. They're a brew house movie theater. And after he died, the head brewer there, RZA, Justin RZA, decided to brew a Cézanne for Walt, called Cézanne de Walt, modeled after Walt's favorite beer, which was our vault. And they asked me to do the artwork for it. Like to design the tap handle for it. And it was just a huge cathartic. It was three or four weeks after he died. And it was still very fresh and very hard. But it was a beautiful experience. Like being able to do that, drawing this friend that I love so much that died. You know, and I miss that guy so dearly. Yeah. No, I mean, he was not only just an amazing dude, but somebody that really promoted and advocated the craft. Oh, big time. And he was known far, far, far outside of Texas. Yeah. No, his death was impactful for a lot of people. I think that threat on RZA was like 40 or 50 pages long. It was crazy. Well, because everybody knew him. Anybody who was on rate beer, and most people who were on beer advocate knew who this fucking guy was. Right. I mean, I only just met him. And just hearing the stories from everyone, not just you guys, but every time we've gone to one of these other beer tastings, just everyone else that talks so lovingly about this guy, makes me just really regret that I never got a chance to really meet the guy. Yeah. I mean, you got to hang out with him a couple of times. Yeah. I mean, but not to any like full extent. It's just like, I went to a couple beer tastings, where he said, hey, and then just drank some beer. Yeah, that's enough to get a handle on his sense of humor, but not on the guy's heart. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And I'm sorry, you never got to hang out with him. Yeah. My last memory of him was before I went away this summer when that sadly happened. But in the spring, we were at a tasting, and it's when we were busting out the fan tome says on that turned out like jelly. Oh, yeah. And Walt and I were videotaping Bill Brink, pouring the jelly into the re-heater's model. What's he mean? Yeah, that model's my way. Yeah. And Walt and I were laughing so hard, I thought I was going to throw up. [LAUGHTER] Watching Bill pour this cloppy shit into his classic car. Walt will just stand there with a video camera, and then every so often turn to one of us go, look at him. [LAUGHTER] Look at him. Like he's just living up to all the shit that we give him. [LAUGHTER] It's just Bill being Bill. Holy shit. We're capturing this on video. Oh, Met Geo. [LAUGHTER] So this is in a brown ale. No, this is not-- Which I usually commemoration beers at brown ale. Well, this is not a-- they didn't brew this for him. I just busted this out for him. Even my presents can't fuck this one out. So this is a Cantillon Fufune again. So this is Cantillon Fufune. We haven't even gotten around to talking about the beer yet. But it's a nice hazy golden orange. A hazy keystone. Yeah. I still have a-- God. I still have some decent bit of head around here. At least on the top of the glass, it's-- I've got a nice marshmallowy head on mine. Yeah. Oh my god, does it smell fucking incredible? It smells gorgeous. So apricotty. Yeah, full on apricot with tartness. Rotten wood. Rotten wood. This is all of the best aroma memories of going to Cantillon and just smelling dank, musty, barrel room. Yeah. Full on just rotten beer, cold hops. And it sounds like we're describing something that's thick and wrong and gross in a very rich, dark way. But this is quite bright. And it is hugely bright. Yeah, it's bright and it's refreshing smelling somehow, even with those funky things. Well, before we take a sip. Mm, what? [LAUGHTER] Should we choose this to wall? OK, yeah. All right, guys, to wall. To wall. To wall. And there have been so many, like, dedications and cheers to him. And lots of parties have ended in to wall. But this is probably the most meaningful. Yeah. This is-- no, I mean, the guy in a very direct way changed my entire life for the next seven years after that. So I mean, after that, it was like, holy shit, this is like a real thing I can be passionate about. So fucking delicious. I know. This beer. Really bright, tart, funky sour. This is my all-time favorite beer ever. Really? And I had it two years ago at San Francisco Beer Week at the Trappas provisions when they had the Cantian takeover. This beer pulls everything together for me. And I never trade for it because it's hard to get and it's hard to trade for. But man, every time I have it, thank you so much, Mike. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely adore this beer. I obtained this bottle from Steins in New Orleans, that one time that we went. Oh, man, that was from that trip. OK. So this bottle is at least a year old, but it drank mine immediately. Yeah, so this was bottled the 28th of August of 2012. OK. The apricot note is bright and it's up front. It's one of the first things you taste. And then the flavor completely starts transforming into like Smarties. And yeah, because it starts out with a bunch of apricot, but rotten wood also. And there's a little bit of a weird like off sour thing going on. It tastes like it's almost about to be wrong. And then it just goes to fruity, smarty sugar, and cotton candy somehow. Like there's some of that there toward the end. And then it goes back to dry woody, but very pleasant, woody and fruit. It's so good. What's really neat about this beer for me is that it doesn't really matter how old it gets. It really holds on to that apricot note. It never subsides. See, that's what it's curious. I was wondering, Rubio, when you drink it immediately, if it tasted different than an age. It tastes a little bit different now than it did then, but that can also be bottle variation. It's every time I've had it, a good beer. When I first had it, I mean, the bottle was like at least three, maybe four years old when malt busted it out. And it still had a huge apricot note then. Not as much as maybe it does right now, but it still had like a huge fruit component. Well, when we did our sour episode, which I think was like five or six, and it was really early on, Rubio basically said to me, "Oh, this is gonna test you. This is gonna test your palate." Because you knew that I was not accustomed to drinking sours, to stouts, to anything except for ambers. (laughing) Really, and-- - Keystone. - Keystone lights, I was okay with those, but I remember that we had a canteon, I wanna say, is Iris? - No. - Canteon? - It may have been the rosé, rosé de canteon. - Rosé, yeah. - Yeah, and that was one of my first exposures, and I love that one right away. - Yeah. - Canteon, I loved, and there is the one that sounds kind of like, I was gonna say Giovanni Rabisi, that's not his name. - Befontainen? - No, there's another sour that was like-- - No, you're thinking about-- - Girard de Pardu. - Girarden. - Girarden. - Girarden, yeah. - Yeah. - How are you saying that? - Okay. Anyway, tastes like that. Those two I loved, everything else I was like, this is just confirmation bias for me about sours. (grunting) Right, terrible. Now I love sours. - That's the thing is that it was a, it was a love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing, and that's the way that Walt positioned it to me. It was, you're either gonna love this or you're gonna fucking hate it. And I immediately fell in love with this beer. - I really don't know how you couldn't. I mean, this is one of those beers, it's just magic. - And this is one of the ones, like you said, that you got at Steins in New Orleans. - Yep. - That, finding those-- - Thank you, Anastasia. - Anastasia just, I'm gonna snoop around the back, like in the back room and in the back of that room. - Yeah, she went into the behind the stacks, like where people aren't supposed to go, I think. - Whatever. - Oh, no, no, no, no. We're not blaming you, I am praising you. Thank you very much for doing that because without you, I would not have obtained this beer. I think we grabbed what, like some gooses or like a creek or something like that was upfront. And then she was like, "What about these Fufune?" - Yeah, she just walked out like, "Hey, what about this here?" And it was just like, "There's boxes upon boxes of shit back here." But what? And the guy's like, one in one, one in one. - Curiosity never killed the cat out, right? - Nope. - Unless it's its ninth life. - Walt's dead. (all laughing) - Are we done talking about feelings now? - Well, as dark as it is, you guys were talking about while getting a dedication beer. - Yeah. - You guys ever thought about, if you guys had a dedication beer, what would you have wanted to be? - Fufune. - Fufune. - Yeah. - I mean, like a particular style, something like these flavor components. - I think Walt would be best immortalizing a brown ale. (all laughing) - No. - I think you're brown. - Fucking bruise of brown for you, Michael. (all laughing) We're gonna call it not our valor fufune. (all laughing) - Well, I thought you'd make me a Berliner vice. - We'll call it piss and vinegar. (all laughing) - Perfect! - I do like Grant's tradition that he had in college. It's very similar to the Berliner vice tradition in Germany where they add different fruit serves to it. - Of his keystone in Mad Dog 2020 comedy. (all laughing) - There is better redneck version of anything I've ever heard of in my life is that. - Grant's mad stone. Here's my dream. If someone were to actually brew a beer for me, I want them to make a fancy version of a malt liquor. - Wow. - You can do it. - No, why? - Doctors had already did it. Licker de Montz. - But why the fuck? - What? (all laughing) - Get out! - They put it in 40 ounce bottles and they packaged it with a brown paper bag. - What was this? - This was a few years ago. - Yeah. - Two years ago. - Look at them all. I like the joke more, I guess. - Just to be like, oh, this is for Grant and it's a fucking malt liquor. - Yeah. - You would burden a bunch of people with time. - No, I need some malt liquor. - And then everyone has to drink it too. I want everyone to, you know, drink it in my life. - These people are still alive, by the way. - That would be making you the shit. (all laughing) - And you were burning them with this nonsense. - I'm dead, I have no qualms. - I just finished drinking this beer. - It's so fucking good, it's so good. - The saddest part is finishing it though. - I know. - Hey guys, Walt's dead. - You know, I remember when Katrina took him. (all laughing) - At the dinner? - No, no, you got hit by Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans and that's what we're drinking this beer? No, he would have laughed at the joke 'cause he had no taste in here. - He was really nice guy. (all laughing) - Oh fuck, he would have laughed at Ryan's joke. He wasn't nice on me. He was really nice, but you wouldn't know it, meeting him. - Are we done talking about feelings now? - Nope. (all laughing) Not at all. Well, I have a beer to share in a story. - Can I leave now? - Maybe you want. - Okay. - If you leave, Ryan's taking your seat. You guys want to move on to the next one? - Let's do it. - Final one. - Final one to the end. - This is the end. - No, like the very end where we say thank you for listening and bottoms up, bottoms down. - No, don't ruin this for us. - This is gonna be my beer and okay, I'm gonna say the first idea that we had for episode 100 came from our buddy Nick who came up to us and said, hey, let's do a cante on show. And I said, yeah, that sounds great. And Grant said, no, let's do something that has more to do with us and the show. - I don't know if I properly express it to you, but I was really vehemently opposed to his idea. - It lacks all the personal touch, the sentimentality, anything connected to actually us. It's more like someone else bought our episode from us. I didn't like the idea. I was really put off by it. - Yeah, which is why we're moving it to episode 101. - That works, that works. - You ever sit down in line, it's fine. - Still doing that show. But you came up with this great idea of doing something about personal experience and milestone beers. And I thought that was wonderful. And I kind of wrestled back and forth with what story I was gonna tell. So I really wanted to tell the story about my divorce. And how, you know, it's a very bright and shiny story. - Yeah, he saved that story for the first time I could hear it on my wedding day. He is just a bright, shining. - I actually swear. - We were like a fucking pest, Mr. Shit. - We were really, we were all really bright and sun shining for your wedding. - Yeah, future notice, Mike. If you know you're going through a bitter divorce, don't come with your wife to someone else's wedding. (laughing) Fuck you, man. - That was the worst. (laughing) - That was the funniest thing that happened all year. (laughing) - I thought shit was gonna work out. (laughing) Speaking of thinking shit was gonna work out. So I was married once about four years ago. And it was going good, you know? I thought it was going all right. It was a Friday, I remember it was a Friday. And I thought it was just like any other normal Friday. And I got out of work just a little bit early. And like I did every couple of weeks was I would stop at this wine shop on the way home. It was like this place that sold bottles of wine and beer. And I picked up a couple of bottles of wine and a bottle of beer, came over to the house, opened up my front door, and she's standing right there. And she walks over to me, she gets the bag out of my hand, puts it on the floor and says, "I'm leaving." And I was like, "What? Why?" And she goes, "I don't love you anymore." And it was just like this shock. I was like, "What? I had no idea this was coming." I put the stuff on the floor, and I had two bottles of wine and a bottle of beer in there. And you know, just immediately started to freak out. Like, immediately started to cry. I had no idea that this was coming, had no idea of any of it. And she didn't really tell me why this was happening, right? It was just, "I'm leaving and that's it." On a bright note, Walt's dead. (laughing) (laughing) And then she was like, "Sike, no." (laughing) So, it was a complete shock to me, as you can imagine. Did I leave out the part where she was fucking a horse when she was filming this? No, no. (laughing) So, I'm completely fucked up. And she says that she's already got her stuff packed, and she has a place to stay, so she's leaving now. Like, she's leaving right then and there. Wouldn't tell me why, wouldn't tell me any of this stuff. We've been married for a few years, and she leaves. And I'm in my house, blindsided, what? Like, this is new news that I just got 10 minutes ago and I'm alone. And when I get that kind of shock, when I get depressed, I push my friends away. Like, I don't talk to friends, I don't talk to family, I don't do any of that stuff. And one of the other things is that I completely abstain from all alcohol, any kind of mind numbing substance. I need to feel it, you know, I need to be able to feel it and deal with it and process it. So, for the next three days, I was on my couch, fetal position, flipping out, crying. It was awful, like the worst thing I've ever been through. Worse than meeting Mike. (laughing) Come on, don't go that far. Okay, it was pretty bad. It was really, really fucking horrible, you know? And I'd never felt that kind of pain ever in my life. And I didn't feel like I was going to die, but I felt like something in me broke. And when, and this is, here's a funny story. (laughing) Day three, day three of just like feeling like I'm gonna die. I needed to talk to somebody. I got in this moment of panic, where I felt like I needed to talk to somebody or I was going to break for good, right? Like, I was just not gonna come back from this. So, I get on the phone and I start calling a family member, but I was like, I don't wanna do this. I don't wanna have to deal with the, oh, she's a bitch. You know, I don't wanna have to deal with them judging her because I don't even know why yet. You know, I don't wanna unfairly judge somebody. So, I need to call somebody who's completely impartial. So, I get on the phone and start calling therapists and nobody's available to talk. Nobody wants to talk on the phone to somebody who just lost their wife because, come on. Like, that's really, everybody goes through that whatever, you know. (laughing) And I look at the two married guys. (laughing) No, but hey, hey guys, everybody goes through it. (laughing) But, so I'm like calling all these places and nobody fucking, and I'm desperate, I'm desperate. So, I pull up the fucking number of the suicide hotline. Now, I'm not suicidal, I've never been suicidal. I don't ever think personally, for me, that'll ever be an option. - Sure, but it's a person to talk to. Yeah, so I get on the phone and I dial this number and I'm crying my eyes out and I pick up the phone and the message comes on that says, if this is an emergency call at the police, call 911, don't call us. But, if you need somebody to talk to, you know, hold on the line, somebody to be right with you. So, this music is coming on. And it's like this really shitty elevator music comes on. And it is- - It waits in the arms of (laughing) - No, but it's like this shitty, kitschy fucking Hawaiian shit music. And it goes on for like 10 minutes. - They keep you waiting for 10 minutes on a suicide hotline? - Yeah, so I'm standing there and a lot of shit can happen in 10 minutes. - And I'm like, I'm crying. - I'm crying. - They need volunteers. - But by that point, after being on a whole for 10 minutes, I'm already starting to be like, this is ridiculous. Like, I'm already like tearing them apart in my mind going, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? Don't you know that people are desperate out there? Don't you know? And then that's when the fucking phone disconnects. (laughing) (laughing) The suicide hotline phone line breaks call with me. - That's important. (laughing) - It's fucking hard. - Like, and I'm looking at my phone and it says call lost. And I just start laughing. Like, like, it was the fucking, it was the most amazing feeling in the world. Like, I'm laughing my ass off. (laughing) - You got fucking hung up on by a suicide hotline. - I know. (laughing) - And it's like, imagine if I was suicidal. Like, imagine if I was that fucking guy and they fucking hung up on him. - Do you know how much strength that story gave me when I was going through my shit? I was like, true. I was like, at least I didn't get hung up on by a suicide hotline. (laughing) - More weeks go by and I'm still all fucked up and I get invited by some friends to be on this podcast, right? This podcast that my friends had together was a nerd podcast about, it was about movies and comics and a bunch of geek shit TV stuff like that. - Did that just happen? - Yeah. - Oh. - That it just happened. When I first got on to that show. - Yeah. - I had just gone through that. - I didn't even know. - Yeah. So I was on that show once and then twice. That was the first time I left my house after that shit went down. That was just a few weeks after she split. I still went to work and stuff, but I didn't do anything social. And that was the first social thing that I did. Most of the people that were on that show were friends of mine, a good friends of mine that I'd known for a couple of years. Some people I'd never met before. I met you there, Grant. - Yeah. - And it was fun and it gave me time to be away from that. And it wasn't until one time, it was probably the second or third time that I was on that I forget the joke I said, but it had something to do with having sex, with one of my other male co-hosts on the show. I met some kind of joke about fucking one of the dudes there and how it was awesome. And Chris, the host of the show, out of the blue, turns to me and goes, "Hey, maybe that's why your wife left you." (laughing) And it was the perfect, biting, horrible friend. I love you sort of thing that somebody could have done. - It was the thing, it made me laugh so fucking hard and he immediately like, we went to break really quickly after that. - That was your dick planes, man. - Yeah, exactly. - That's your dick planes. - That's why I did that to you. - You know what, because Chris did that to me. You know, so that happened. And then we go to break-- - He had gone through a divorce himself. - Yeah, he had. And we went to break and he's like, "Dude, I'm so sorry." It just came out. I don't, this is exactly what I needed. And I felt normal for the first time. - Yeah. - Like two months, like two months. I felt normal for the first time. You know, when you have like a cold or you have, you know, some kind of nasal energy and that one moment in the middle of it where both your nostrils clear up and you can fucking breathe. - Yeah. - And then it just closes back up again. That's what that was like. - So it closed back up. - Later, like a day later. - Yeah, I was wondering what beer has to do with any of this. - Well, I was riding on this high all night. And the second half of that show was so much more fun with it for me and I was making more jokes and I felt really good and I went home and I'd been abstaining from alcohol because like I said, I want to feel the pain. But at that moment, I wasn't feeling pain anymore. I want to have a beer. Like I felt good, mood enough to have a beer. Went into the fridge, opened the fridge and there was this leafman's gluten bond that I brought home the day my wife left me. And I said, "I'm drinking that." And I did and it was delicious. And I'd had it many times before. And it's kind of an easy beer to get around here. - Yeah. - And that was the beer that I have there. So any time that I have it, it reminds me of that breath of fresh air. It reminds me of, dude, yeah, you're gonna go through some shit, but this beer is gonna taste wonderful to you. This beer takes me back to that moment where everything was okay. - Dude, I started this episode with Keystone Light. (laughing) - Well, I was wrestling with telling this story because it's such a personal story. You know. - No, but it's great. It's a powerful story, man. - A powerful story, man. - A suicide hotline. (laughing) - I know, those fucking assholes. But leafman's gluten bond. (laughing) - That was so weird now. - Remember that time when Walt died? (laughing) - Yeah. This is an 8% ABV beer. And it's a year round offering available in 375, 750 milliliter bottles and on draft. And this was actually originally called Azer. - Oh, God, here it comes. - Azer and Bond, which is Iron Band, a reference to the Iron Bands around the beer barrels, the bottle gained its champagne cork in 1956 when it was renamed Leafman's Guten Bond, which means gold band. Made in open vats with beer of mixed fermentation, it's left to mature for four to 12 months in the cellar. Mature beers then fortified with younger beers, so the fermentation process starts up again. Leafman's Guten Bond is a beer for storing and it just keeps improving over the years like fine wine. Even after 10 years, this dark beer tastes as fresh as ever. I don't know if that's true. This beer's a perfect match to blue cheese, the late British beer critic, Michael Jackson once called it surely the best brown ale in the world. - Guten Bond means gold band. - Yes. - Like a gold band around your finger. - Oh, no! (laughing) Think of the symbolism here. That's pretty powerful. - Yes. - I would also like to say that I've been divorced for three years now or been away from my wife for three years and she's a good friend of mine now and has been to beer tastings, freaking people out. (laughing) And we were just at a show, a concert a couple of days ago, so. - Neutral milk hotel or? - Yes, dude, neutral milk hotel. - Nice. - Yeah, she's a good friend of mine. And I've met both of her boyfriends very sweet guys. - They have nice booties. - They do have nice booties. So checking this beer out, it's a reddish brown color. It's got little ruby highlights where the light really hits it. - And it looks like it would be see-through if it wasn't so dense. Like it doesn't really have a haze to it. It's just a very dense looking beer. - A manila head. - Yeah. - Oh, this smells really good. - It smells like golden raisins. - Golden raisins. - Or a golden raisins. - Wow. - Figs. - Gooden. (laughing) - We laugh for levity. - Yes. - I mean, that time my wife killed Walter. (laughing) - I really love the way this smells. There's a little bit of a sourness on the nose and a bit of a wood barrel thing and some cherries. - I've never had this beer before. Thank you. - Are you serious? - I'm very serious. I've never had this beer before. - Wow. - This beer is awesome. - It's one of those beers that sits around and you kind of always see dust on it at the shops. - That's when you should fucking buy it. - I didn't know that. I was kind of like, yeah, maybe not. - So should we cheers to this one as well? - No. (laughing) - Not so much. No, okay, here's to your future ex-wives. - Shit. (laughing) - Dodge the bullet. (laughing) - I will not cheer to that. - Aww. - Bottoms down. - Shut up. Figs, man. I get a lot of figs in the flavor. Figs and raisins. - Cinnamon, tart cherries. - Prune, man. This is gonna help our bowels. - Yeah, but pruning like dates, like those very sticky dehydrated fruits. - Sad, flat Mr. Pibbe fruit leather. Fruit leather, not the Mr. Pibbe. I don't get, I mean, there's barely similarities with that. - Fine, Dr. Pepper, fancy man. (laughing) - Have you guys noticed that Anastasia hasn't said like a word in like 30 minutes? - I know, it's just, are you okay? - You guys are talking about fucking feelings. That's bullshit. - Okay, good point. - I'm just like, there's a lot of black licorice to it. Sort of like the black licorice chunks you get in like the bags next to the circus peanuts. - Yes, Dr. Pepper. - Yeah. - I totally know what you're talking about. - The black licorice that would come next to those orange circus peanut things. - Right. - There's kind of a distinct sort of flavor towards the end. - Oh, like a crappy corn syrupy black licorice. - Yeah, okay. - I love watching you guys just like dip back in. - 'Cause you know what I guess about y'all. - Damn this dip, you mean? - It's like if I muted this, I would have sworn that you guys were gonna start making out here in just a second. You kind of like look over at each other longingly. - The two married men sharing a mic. - Yeah, there's nothing like stories of death and divorce. - You're gonna take a dude's horny for each other. (laughing) - And get me a shut down. - That's what happened to us. - Yeah. - Pretty much. (laughing) - Right mic around like Falcor. (laughing) - Yeah! (laughing) - What? - I'm a fuck dragon. (laughing) - That's what I think. - Nothing gets you over divorce like Rubio filling you in. (laughing) - That's not enough for me. - No, I have to joke around while I'm doing it. (laughing) - I really like the spirit, right? I think it does get better with time. It does get better with age. - Oh man, some of the best bottles of this were ones that because this brewery went out of business for a little while. - Yes. - When they were out of business, there were still bottles that lingered around from like 2006, 2007. - Yeah. - And still finding stores here up until maybe like about a year ago. - Right, and Odenard is the brewery that makes this. And they filed for bankruptcy and they went out of business and Duval actually bought them up. So I remember that it was about 2007 or something that I was buying bottles of this pretty regularly back then that's around the time that I met our buddy Brett who used to work as the specs beer guy on Brody. - Right. - And he had one, I said, "Hey, do you guys have any more good and bunnies?" Like, I have one more and he pulled it out in the back of a stack and he goes, "Enjoy that because it's gone." Like, there's no more. And I was like, "What?" And that was before Duval bought them up and they had already started shutting down the-- - Nothing good can last. - I know. That's true, everything is fine, I-- God damn it. (laughing) - You know, remember that time that wall died? (laughing) - Keep reminding me. - I find that this beer, there's bitterness, right? - No. - And as time passes, the bitterness fades. There's always gonna be a degree of bitterness. But I find you can find sort of like a silver lining in the taste of this beer. - And realize that you can kind of move on to other beers. (laughing) And realize this isn't the only beer in the sea. (laughing) - I just choked on my good and bad. - That's so poetic. (laughing) - You fucking asshole. (laughing) - Rubio, it's a metaphor. (laughing) - That's a metaphor, Rubio. (laughing) - That's a metaphor. - So you tell me that she called this beer divorce. (laughing) - That's a broken good and bun. (laughing) - Oh my God. I love doing this show with you guys. You're all fucking pieces of shit in your own way. (laughing) In very unique ways. - You go around and tell us all how shitty we are? - Yeah, I'll tell you exactly how you're a piece of shit. - Yeah. - Want me to? - Yes, everybody. - Grant your piece of shit to do this show with, because I'll be like, hey, this is, you know, this beer is this X, Y, and Z. And then you go, yeah, and I think it's themed on Ghostbusters. And when they did this, Bill Murray, and you just make shit up. And I'm like, what are you talking? What? You do realize it part of this. - I feel like one of these times, I'm gonna get it right though. (laughing) Or you're gonna get an average in it. - Or you're gonna get a typewriter. - You're gonna get some poor asshole listening to this show, like some false information. He's gonna zone out. - All these poor assholes. - He's gonna zone out the part that's a joke. And then he's gonna try to impress somebody who's like, yeah, they brought this after Ghostbusters. - All those poor assholes who don't pay. - Should anyone take us as an authority without doing their own fucking research and due diligence? - No! - You're absolutely right. - You guys believe everything I hand out? - No, no one believes anything. - Speaking of a way, Anna stage your hands things out. Let me tell you how much you hand out being an asshole. (laughing) - She does it by not saying word one in the last 30 minutes. (laughing) She's also one of the first to go completely rogue and not do the show. - I feel like maybe if we had given her a heads up about what this episode was gonna be, she would have been a little bit more prepared. - Or maybe if you wouldn't have done this episode. (laughing) - What a team player. - She might just, what about Ryan? (laughing) - Mike's gonna take a while. (laughing) - Let me strap in. Okay, well I'll do Ryan real quick. I know. I'm just kidding. - He laughs like a woman, it's fine. (laughing) - What's wrong with that? - What is wrong with laughing like this? (laughing) - No, you're good. It just reminds me of sex. (laughing) - Worth women laughing at you? - Yeah. - Yeah. - It's exactly right. - So. - Now listen to the last episode of Zana. I sound like a goddamn idiot giggling the entire fucking time. (laughing) - The last episode. (laughing) - Yeah, Mike's just depressing to be around. (laughing) - No, I don't mean any, I mean all of these things. - Rubio, what about you? - I'll go ahead and handle some of this. - I'm a control freak. - You are OCD control freak. You're fucking nuts on this. - No. - He spends 14 hours, 18 hours, like 24 hours editing each episode. And then he comes to us and he's like, ugh, you made this one joke and I spent four hours editing it. I'm like, this year a piece of shadow next year, goddamn fuck you crazy OCD bastards. (laughing) He was spent four hours editing one little joke that spent like three seconds. - Hey. - Around the last episode of The Beerus, they all fall. - That's crazy. - Dude, calm down, dude. Settle down, my wife left me, man. (laughing) - You can't just be that shitty to be honest. - We're a stupid betting tour. - I'm fucking fragile. - What? (laughing) - Hey, I used to drink Houston late. - Oh, fuck, that's right. - Hey, I have no good stories. - Yeah, just as a reminder to everyone out there that was possibly thinking about inviting Mike or Rubio to their wedding. (laughing) - Okay, okay. - Just don't. - What did I do at your wedding? 'Cause I remember-- - Holy shit, yeah, I remember you having me. - I believe that the person who was giving the ceremony and marrying us. - This was during the ceremony. - It was difficult to hear what he was saying because you drunk assholes were heckling the entire time. - You heckled the ceremony and then you went on some tangent while they were talking about divorce and how terrible it is, and it was fucked up and weird. - I know, 'cause the guy was allowed to say, and now we're gonna do this, and will you, will you kiss the bride? But before that, he didn't say, "Does anybody object?" - And I brought that up. - All right, you objected. - I said, "Hey, hey, hey, hey," and he looked at me like, "What the fuck are you doing?" And you are laughing, and your fiance is laughing. - Uncomfortable. - But the officiant, he was pissed. Like, he did like twitchy face, twitchy face, and he's like, "What?" And I said, "Yeah, you didn't say the part where we get to object," and he goes, "What?" And I was like, "Well, see, the thing, I don't remember what I said," but it had to do with divorces going horribly or something. - Look, it was pretty funny. - Next time, next time you get married, don't do it 10 days after I find out that my marriage is completely collapsing. How about that? - Well, he planned that, you know. He actually had it planned out to the Chinese New Year, and you fucked them over. - Also, don't make it BYOB. I'm just kidding. - It should always, it should always be BYOB, but it was a good wedding. - That was fun. (laughing) - Great time. - Episode 200. - It was great. - Two divorces. - Anyway, like I was saying, I'm glad you guys are here. (laughing) - Oh, it's getting hot again. You know, take off your shirt. - We should have a fucking show. We should have a documentary, like some kind of monster or whatever that Metallica one was, where they just don't get along, and that should be episode 200. (laughing) That's the right word going, episode 200, we're gonna hate each other. - No, we're all supposed to be divorced by episode 200. - You're not even married. - I never will be, so cool. - Do you wanna get married in an station? - No. - And immediately get divorced? - I hear that there's a really sweet guy at the bolstered with a bolstering. (laughing) - Yeah, like cousin Nigel. - Making fires from the past. - He sounds like my soulmate. - His name is Quiver or some shit. (laughing) - Hey, you know, thanks everybody for being here. You guys have been really awesome. Like all jokes aside are truths aside. (laughing) - Can I go rogue again? - I do wanna, no, shut up bitch. (laughing) Mark it down on the paper. - Mark it zero? (laughing) - Well, you're marking down every time we call you bitch. - Mark it down a little bit. - What are we two? What are we two? - I'm just counting down every time someone says bitch, but usually it's directed toward me. So, you know, whatever. - What are we up to? - 38. - Okay. - Someone's gonna die of alcohol poisoning. (laughing) If they played the drinking game properly. - Give me a take. - Don't play the drinking game. - I'm gonna play the drinking game. - I wanna say thank you and you're ruining it Michael. Thank you guys. You guys have been really awesome. I mean, I live really far south. I appreciate you guys driving here every day for a hundred episodes. - I'm surprised we survived the drive back every time. - I love driving to Mexico every single time I wanted to record a podcast. - Are we supposed to thank you for being a good host? - Yes. - Thanks for being a good quotes host. - Aww. - Was that an answer to being sentimental a little bit? - Yes. - That's how it feels. (laughing) - No, but you guys are fucking great. And I love doing this once a week with you guys. - I love you too. - And it's been, I didn't see you. (laughing) - No, you too Michael. - I love the process as well. - And Rubio seriously, this is amazing. This has been life changing for me. Mike told a really beautiful story about Walt being his transition spirit guide into craft beer. And for me, you've completely been that my mentor in guiding me through all this craft beer. And it's been a really great experience. It's really corny, fuck you Ryan, but seriously. - But all I have to do now is die. - Yeah, exactly. I just say, I'm just gonna chuck a plock to fucking blow up there man. (laughing) You're my Johnny Boy. - Your life's work is done. It's all I'm saying. - What's a pepperoni dislodges from my artery and goes into my heart? - Just dropped dead. (laughing) - Oh God, well I appreciate that, Grant. Thank you. - Yeah, whatever. - Yeah, thanks for having me on tonight. I appreciate it. It means a lot to me. It's so much fun. - I love having you on then. And like I said, if Mike dies, (laughing) if when Mike dies, you're here every week. Like you're my next favorite. - So you're saying that's all I have to make happen? - I mean, I'm not saying it, saying it. But Rubio, you don't mean shit to me. But I'm not killed by coal. (laughing) - And Anastasia, you do all of the research almost every week. Most of the times you leave lots of stuff out. - I don't leave it out every time I put a lot of shit and you fucking cut it out, you cunt. - I leave in bullshit. - No, I put on all the information that I can find and then I show up and I'm like, what happened at this part? And this boy, look how I cut it. What is important? - Hey guys, look who's talking. - I'm not stuck in dick. - Yeah, what is this voice on this episode? - You see, the way to get her talking is you criticize a little thing and she flips out. - And she'll talk for an hour. - Yeah, ending the episode on a divorce note really sets a tone for the, (laughing) the banter towards you. (laughing) - Holy shit, man. - What, the forcing of all of you? - Oh, yeah. - And we ended with divorce and then Rubio told us the worst thing about it. (laughing) It's really going great. - If that was the worst thing about me, I'll take it. - Happy 100. - Well, I appreciate you thinking me great. (laughing) Rubio. - I met it buddy. Rubio, Anastasia, I love you both. Ryan, stop calling me. Good luck. (laughing) - Fuck, we need to have divorces to get in. - This guy's good at graces, I guess. The only way he'll let you back in his house. - Tough club, tough club out there. - Yeah. I can't have joy around me. (laughing) - Is that why we hang out? - Yeah, thank everybody for listening, for real. This has been wonderful. I want to do 100 more shows and love the listeners that we have. And it's been really amazing going from like the first couple of months doing the show having like a thousand downloads. And now we're like 87,000 downloads. - A month? - Yeah. - Holy shit. - Yeah. - That's insane. - It's fucking crazy. - Are you having a sentimental again? - Yeah. - Can I leave real quick? - Sure. - I remember when the cans versus bottle episode got like 1500 up and you were like, Ryan check it out, check it out. We got a thousand downloads in a day. - We're freaking out. - Ryan, you made us. We'll invite you to our next shitty episode. (laughing) - What's been crazy is like looking at our single day download record was like almost 8,000 in a day. And that's like what? - And what episode was this? - I don't remember. - And that's the thing, like they've all have spikes. - You know. - Fame is a crazy bitch. (laughing) - No, but seriously, the listeners beyond just, you know, listening to us, giving us all the hits, you guys have supported us with emails, with rankings and iTunes, which actually does so much for us with giving us donations. You guys pay for us to go to GABF. - Yes. - And with beer. - They give us beer. They're amazing. I've done other shows and we've gotten fan support, but nothing to this extent. This is incredible. - They contribute a lot to the show. Like the listeners contribute a flock tongue to the show. And it's amazing. Like it's amazing the response that we get, the suggestions that I get for, hey, you need to try this from this part of the state. Let me send you some. - I mean, the beer community is overwhelmingly very open and accepting. And that's so cool. I mean, it makes sense. You're drinking, you want to be buddies with everyone else. Beer makes most people jovial and friendly and accepting. - And it's an inherently social thing. - And it is, yeah. And it's so true that our audience is fucking awesome. - It really is the universal equalizer when it comes to alcoholic beverages. - Yeah, 'cause we know some assholes. - Oh, man. - That's great when we're drinking. - Oh, yeah. - Our really wealthy friends are like homeless buddies all hang out together with our jobless friends. - Yeah. - In a stage, are you okay? - Oh, it's raging here. - In a stage I want to go take a shit like 20 minutes ago. If she'd just walk back in and she's cagging. - Most of that smell is probably me. I smell rancid. - Oh, I do too. - I so need a shower after this. - Yeah, we need to get the fuck out of here because it's weight and stinky and hot in this. - 100 episodes, this is the way to go out, man. I know. I know. I know. 100 episodes. What the fuck are we doing? We're vulting away. I'm melting. I've been drinking. Yeah, look at you. I know. You look like you've had enough. Do I? You look like heavy metal Emmet Otter. You look like I've had just enough grant. Hey, I don't shit. Goodnight everybody. You guys are all my friends. I love you guys. Bottom top. Bottom's up. Bottom's up. Damn. No! So close. That was such a dark side. Oh, yeah. Bitch, bitch, bitch. How many is it now? All of them. Oh, all of them. Not a hundred slackers. All the bitches, bitches, bitches. Can we end up the bitches, bitch? Bitch, bitch, bitch. No, I'm quiet. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was a weird thing. That was a word that was gonna happen and I don't even know what it was. Quailie. Quailoochie. We're gonna spin, baby. We're gonna start a new podcast called the Quailoonists. Why? It's more of a nighttime show. It's gonna go a lot like this. That's Michael Lambert. Great. Man, it's Agent Ethan Ronkill. She showed up off the vulnerability balls. Quailoonists are just probably making me freak out. Stop making the assassin. It's like that chick from the ring. So seriously, you guys have Quailoons? More information on the Bearest's podcast, including show notes and pictures, visit thebearest.com. Email us your feedback, comments, questions, and suggestions at info@thebearest.com. Like us on Facebook at facebook.com/thebearests and follow us on Twitter at twitter.com/thebearests. I'm John Rubio. Thanks again for listening. [Music] [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]
