Episode 86 of the Beerist's podcast recorded on November 14th 2013 three times a company So I think this is probably gonna be our worst episode yet fly cuz Ryan's here cuz Ryan is here. Oh That and for some reason off Mike we have all been not on the same page not at all Everybody will say something Yeah, that's exactly what happens exactly what happens and then nobody understands a day on page We might as well just quit right now. Did anybody do the homework for this class? No. Oh, there was homework. Oh damn it Why am I we only have beer on the table what we can do this episode? It's gonna make it up cuz all beer improv episode trick each other saliva That would probably get us really shit-faced Everybody I'm John Rubio and with me today. I have hi. I'm Grant Davis and also with us Anastasia Sweet saliva Kelly and in the fourth chair filling in for Mike Lambert Ryan on mesh But you know, you're not really filling in for Mike Lambert. You're just as important as he is After all the nice things you guys said about me so far, that's the nicest one actually probably more important I'm kidding Mike. We miss you Today we're gonna be drinking beers that were part of a box that Evan Gundy sent us He sent us a while Evan Gundy. Is this the first time he sent us beer? No, this guy has sent us a lot of Is this the second time he sent us beer? No, this is the third time he sent us giant boxes will appear What do we owe him for this? Nothing. We owe him slowly poisoning us. We owe him content Yeah, what is this occupation what you could afford to send us this much? He's probably a military specialist scientist of the third order Yeah, he probably makes math But yeah, he said this is a giant box full of beer and we're having about half of the stuff that he sent us today The other half we might have on other shows we might drink during the break or before shows before the show we did drink We had the marshals octoberfest. Yes marshals october Yeah, I keep on fucking up between marshal and Mustang, but yeah, it was marshal octoberfest. It was actually pretty damn good It was nice. Yeah, thank you so much for that dude. Thanks Evan But before we get to Gundy's beers. I call this episode three times a Gundy And I get giggled about it. I know like a manly is like a gafar. Yeah You've never done that sound involuntarily. It's usually Exactly, that's my real. It sounds like a leprechaun. It all the way as a leprechaun Hey, so we got a couple of emails that I want to read I'm this sure first one is actually from Evan Gundy like the guy who said this is his beer And it says hey guys and gal I've been listening to some former episodes and one phrase I hear often is this is a case worthy beer I was curious as to what each of you would consider your top one or two case worthy beers cheers Evan Gundy Whatever you send me Case worthy is a beer that you'll taste you're like man. I need to buy a case of this Oh, I don't recall ever even hearing that face Maybe I need to be on more of these episodes really really pay attention For me, I think it just depends on what is out around that time I don't have a top one or two case worthy beer But recently I have bought actually more than a case of dog fish head fastina passion. Mm-hmm fucking love that beer That's case worthy for me. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah zombie dust zombie dust is another good. I want kegs of that That's from three Floyd's and we don't get three Floyd's in Texas But we try to get as much of that as possible. There you go those are the two Anastasia, I mean, I bought like three cases of 15 to pesh this year. Oh, yeah every week You know, I've also had lots of cases of hetty topper sentover. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm I trade for that shit like crazy. Oh case in later this week. Nice bedlam from Ayla asylum. I bought a case on that one's Yeah, that's a great beer. It's what is it a Belgian style IPA? Yeah, or Belgian IPA Yeah, I'll go IPA Shinerbach and Lone Star just because they're really cheap and other people who don't care about beer will drink in my party Yeah, normally cores I buy cores in the case. That's not I actually do buy suitcases of Lone Star. It's about 24 Lone Stars Yeah, it's a good fillet beer for everyone else. You guys are all fired It's good for getting schmasty by the pool. No, but a lot of the beers you mentioned were lighter beers Uh-huh my wife Lee and I always drink festina pesh a so we always buy a case of that when the wintertime founders breakfast out Oh, usually buy a case of that and also Brooklyn black chocolate stout Brooklyn black chocolate Usually I can use that too old stock is another good one to buy a case of and put away for a few years and you know Try them every year or every six months and you can see that how that beer develops over time and then by the time It's really good. You still have like eight or nine left. Mm-hmm, and it's awesome. Anyway Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that answers your question to your satisfaction Evan, but fuck you I'm kidding. Can we just be really mean to him? No, no sponsor. No, he's he is the prince of my palace Of our of our pallets, right? Thanks Evan. I got another email here and I actually I'll read it right before we take a break because it's uh, this guy sent us a song All right, we'll make a note for that. But if any of you want to send us an email do it at info@thebearests.com We have a couple of iTunes shout outs to give yes Yeah, so what these people did was they went on the iTunes music store and they gave us a five-star review and Wrote an actual review down with words and they left their names. Mm-hmm that way we could thank them for it on the show Or if they write something mean, we can track them down and hurt them. Yeah, absolutely because uh our first guy Pluto roman, that'll be easy to find. That's not many people that play Pluto roman Pluto was a greek. Uh, it probably is roman is a roman and pluto's a greek, so he's multicultural Good for him. So pluto roman says we're really a funny show We know what we're talking about and we totally changed how he drinks on friday nights cool. So he butt-chugs now Yeah, Pluto and his man cave eric clausen says he's really getting into craft beer lately Maybe to the point of obsession that happens a lot And found us in his search for a podcast to keep informed and learn more about the wonderful world of well-crafted and fucking awesome beers That was his quote. He says he can't recommend another beer podcast above ours good for you eric Seriously, though, fuck all other beer podcasts Usually super boring and the people on our terra most of them are yeah, I can I can you name a single other good one craft beer anonymous I like It's her crickets right after I asked that question and then we'll just move on. I like craft your radio Also, they've been around for a very long time. I listened to any podcast including our own so Basic broing shit, basically radio. Yeah, that's pretty good. Okay. Okay. Those are all great. Anyway. Thank you so much guys If you guys could do that for us all so it really helps out the show Like I said get on itunes do a search for the beers to leave us a five star rating and write a review It is extremely extremely appreciated. We got a donation what yes, we got a donation from benjamin brown Nice. Thank you so much benjamin Yeah, we do this show all with our own money and our own time And it takes a lot of time and a lot of money to run this show I do all of the editing on my own and anastasia and I buy most of the beer for this and Like I said, we don't have a lot of money. We don't have any advertising. I like to keep this ad free I really would I don't want to start doing ads on this show if I don't have to and the only way I can You know keep away from that is if we could bring in some kind of money to balance it out somehow You know and the way we've chosen to do that is by asking for donations and if you could find it in your fucking hearts Please send us donations any amount will help Do it at the beerists.com on the left hand side of the page. There's a paypal donate button Kick us five bucks 10 bucks. Whatever you can afford. It's a huge help Yeah, thanks guys. Thank you benjamin. We're going to start with our beers. The first beer we're going to do is hop dish It's an IPA by lift bridge brewing company still water, minnesota This is 7.5 a bv 75 ibu's and it's a year on offering available in bottles and on draft and it's hopped with maris otter malt premium two row and crystal molds And hopped with seven american varieties of hops. They don't really say what hops? No, they don't know I'll read the description, but if there's seven that's pretty much all of them, right? Yes, that's all the hops ever No This dramatic deep golden american IPA is the perfect dish for hopheads Featuring copious amounts of seven different varieties of hops with citrus Flavor notes flavor notes It's a versatile uniquely Midwestern beer that should be celebrated anytime. It's on the menu Pears well with pork belly pork shoulder fried fish apricots and soft ripen cheeses pretty much like any other ip here Checking this beer out. It's a very hazy orange color. Yeah, that's it. Yeah pretty much there's white head Yeah, almost no head is very very little head smells like candied sugars and oranges Yeah oranges and white grapes a little pineapple. Yeah. What about those sugar coated grapefruit gummies? Also, yeah, I get a little bit of that in the plate in the nose and the sugar coated orange gummies Yeah, what's that sugar coated citrus gummy? Oh, it's probably great for that one of those. Yeah, it's a little piney little pineappley also Maybe a little mentholy, but it smells like beer. It smells like really uh delicious hoppy beer That was not at all what I expected when I took a sip of it I haven't even tried it yet. I'm still trying to figure out the nose because there's some other fruit that i'm getting in the nose that i'm I can't quite put my finger on but there's a bunch of tropicality, but A piney. Yeah, I was expecting the body to give more of a mangoe sort of feel to it when I drank it and it's a bit thinner and there's kind of a Papaya Okay, yeah, I just took a sip One thing that's kind of weird to me about this is that it's coming off a lot more tropical in the nose There is a slight resonance piney thing happening in the nose, but i'm getting a lot more of that in the flavor And it's a little bit more sugary sweet Not really sweet, but there's an impression of sweetness. I think from the malts that I wasn't really expecting But i'm still kind of liking this it tastes like it tastes like old dried hops Tastes a little aspernie a little bit a little bit of old dried hops bittery not in a good way Yeah, I think it smells awesome. Yeah, I think it smells fucking great What are we talking about smell our flavor both talking? Yeah, because because there's a little bit of What was going on in the nose in the flavor, but it's not quite sinking up But i'm not disliking this beer. It's just not as good as it the nose Yeah, it's not an IPA. You could probably sit down and have two points back to back I probably could yeah Yeah, because there's a little bit of a wateriness to it a club soda Interality, that's kind of scrubbing the hops off of my palate pretty well I still get some residual bitterness on my tongue, but it's not overwhelming me at all It's pretty drinkable for as bitter as it is But I really wish that I had more of that tropicality that I was getting right up front now That was really awesome in the nose, but yeah, like I said here It's a little bit more dank and sugary, but not sweet like it's just more like a taste sugars not really feel sweetness You're pretty confident you can drink two of these in a row, huh? Here all right everyone. Let's test this out We do these right here. I do have to uh host a show Are you gonna like not drink anymore? Well, I I just want to see But I kind of do too. We can all offer up our beer for that experiment, right? Yeah, totally Well, we're calling you out rubio We'll keep drinking and keep drinking So let's describe this a little bit more and then maybe i'll drink whatever you guys have left I mean, it's it's got uh An astringent bite paired with its bitterness that attacks my tongue at the beginning And then just kind of leaves this bitter stain on my tongue Right. I'm looking at what it's saying it would pair well with food wise Some of them I can kind of see like uh apricot and ripen cheeses I'm curious what you guys think about like pork like something like a salty or meat I don't necessarily see it. I don't know I think it would work better if so there's a little bit of the citrus note a little bit of orange juice Citrus note that i'm getting But I kind of have to fight through a little bit of the bitterness to find that But not much other fruits happening here if it was more fruity More tropically fruit than I could see it going with pork like the nose I could see that going with pork But what i'm getting in the flavor not as much. Yeah, no But you said club soda earlier and i was like, yeah, it's called soda But the more I drink it the more that aspurney flavor gives me it tastes kind of like tonic water Tastes like wet bread how so gross You don't like this at all I do not I do not like this. I don't necessarily think it's bad I fully capable of drinking all of it. Oh, absolutely drink it. Yeah. Oh, yeah I don't get wet bread from this though. I mean like what kind of bread are you talking about wonder bread whole wheat? No, like uh, like a sourdough Maybe sourdough or like a white loaf like a fresh baked white loaf like a wheat loaf Just like a really simple with the crusty crust, but then also it's wet. Yeah. I don't I don't know There's something about this beer in the way that it finishes that I don't like You know the only thing that I can say that I call bready about this beer is that there's something in here That reminds me a little bit of a more than usually acidic sourdough bread yeast You know how I hope sometimes sourdough breads will have this really yeasty almost acidic too much Of a flavor There's a little bit of something like that in here in that in that right of the end. Yeah, there's like an acidity There's a something going on here. That's a little bit different from what I'd expect in the IPA I think it's a bit aqueous It could have more punch in certain areas of the flavor, but it just kind of tastes a little watered now It's aqueous in a weird sort of way because with all of that bitterness that it has I think there should be a little bit more body there for that. I don't know The yeast kind of attenuated a little too much there I think if they had used a different kind of yeast they could have stopped the fermentation a little bit If it had just a little bit more body and a little bit more esters to it Everything would pop out and meld together whereas it's a little thin and from the hotter Gribson. I'm wondering if this is just a weird batch Maybe I don't know but from what I was saying earlier, you know how I was talking about sugars I think that's more flavor Not really sweetness because it's a pretty dry beer Like there's not any real sweetness going on there And I think that you're probably right about it attenuating all the way down a little bit too far Maybe I don't know. I wish this had a little bit more sweetness just a little bit more body And I think that if they'd stopped the yeast earlier, it would work. Yeah, let's put that uh two in a row to a test You guys gonna make me drink this? Yeah. Yeah, we are. Okay. I drank mine. It was delicious Yeah, we got more in the bottle too if you want Yeah, sure give it in I'm just gonna drink what uh anesthesia gave me whatever's left in the bottle because I think grants and joy and his I am. All right. You guys want to time me. I'm just gonna chuck this since uh Do you want us to time you like six ounces? All right more than six. Okay. Wait. Hold on. Let me get my go on It's already gone done. Yeah, so that was not even like three seconds How do you feel? You just open your throat up and let it in? That's good advice. I'll have to remember that. Yeah, everything in life will be better If you just open your throat up a little bit. Hey, so that was hop dish. Hey, gian. Did you hear that? He's talking to his wife x-wife. I suppose now Sweet. Um, that was hop dish by lift bridge. The next beer is haptometrist It's a double IPA from roughtail in oklahoma city, oklahoma This is 10 a bb 1 hundred ibu's and it's a limited release available in bottles haptometrist is a double IPA that's 10 and 100 ibu's it's crisp dry and very drinkable with bla bla bla bla Uh, it's a bunch of flavor notes a bunch of lies probably. I don't know Let's see how this turns out, but Grant's pouring it and there's a lot of head it seems. I think Grant is He's on purpose being a dickhead. No, that's fine. I like the way he's pouring it. Gorgeous head on this number I know and it's like a yellowy head, isn't it? Yeah, and that's a very hazy Orange color, uh, it's darker than the other one. It seems like it's more viscous and thick Yeah, it's like a pale pumpkin color. Yeah, pillowy head gorgeous looking beer. Grant did a great job. Smells awesome It smells really good. Thanks lots of piney. I mean, it seems like there's a lot of cascade in here Yeah, cascade Amarillo. Mm-hmm very piney very grapefruit grapefruit peel There's another bit of like sugar smell there too. There's oh, yeah, like candied hops maybe It smells really pleasant. Yeah, it also smells a bit bitter Like I can get some of the bitterness in the nose just smelling it There's a little bit of a mossy quality to the nose But really it's it's like a pine forest and some pinecone honey resin Something in candied citrus and yeah, you should really take a sip You are being like Mike. Just jumping the gun left and right. You know what else this really smells like to me Crystal light iced tea sweetened tea dude a lot like that. Okay. This is yeah I'm having a hard time focusing because it's really good. This is really good. This is really good for a 10% double IPA Yeah, where's the 10%? I don't know completely hidden. Oh in my drunk. Wow. Okay. So I just said um The smell it also tastes like what I was just talking about crystal light iced tea There is an iced tea quality to this, isn't there? For me it kind of tastes like sweet nest like it isn't just like sweet nest tea But there's a quality there that's like that. Okay. So it is a very very well balanced awesome double IPA It's got those pine notes those citrus notes grapefruit orange peel There's a bit of a tea quality some of those exotic fleshier fruits It actually has that a nicer multi backbone that the other one was relaxing. Absolutely. The mouth feels full Great mouth field. Oh man a good amount of carbonation even though grant aggressively poured it the carbonation is really nice Oh, yeah, this drinks so easy dangerous the easy for 10% This is a 750 milliliter bottle It's a big ass champagne style bottle and I could probably finish one of those if it wasn't 10% Oh, yeah, you want to prove it? No That's not always an invitation to uh Give me the chug beers. Wow. Thank you. I've been going to you. I've never heard of roughtail Neither why it's a new brewery and a new beer and it's delicious. It's hoptometrist Which is a pun. I love that hops are in the name of this IPA weird just great In our other hoppy show you made a hoptometrist joke. I think I think you did. Oh good. I was seeing hops that day I was seeing daggers Your jokes had their hops and downs And that's why i'm not loud back on this show, right? So no one's gonna know what i'm talking about. Okay, it's often the case but this has a little bit of Kalamansi juice flavor to it. What is that? Kalamansi is a very popular fruit in the philippines Okay, usually they have it in an unripe and state so it's still green And it's kind of like a sweet lime almost okay it's used in seafood a lot and I see it looks like a key lime like it looks like a small green citrus fruit when you said sweet lime It totally clicks with me because there's definitely something like that in here Yeah, and then you all talked about I see and the only iced tea that I ever drink I can't get in the states because it's like an iced tea sweetened with kalamansi Okay, and that's available in the philippines and it has that really nice bitterness from the lime But when you get a little bit of sweetness, I guess when they ripen, which I didn't realize that you know They enjoy them unripe and they look like a tangerine almost Okay, so that kind of even makes more sense that it tastes like a sweet type of lime So we've been drinking this for about five minutes. Yeah, i'm starting to feel it A little bit more. I feel the heat of it Um of the booziness just the warming part of it. Yeah, and maybe a little bit in the just alcohol Okay, put your clothes back on Just that big mouth feel to it and that sweetness and that and it's tiny citrusy sort of Fuck, this is delicious. I know it's just enough sweetness to let you know that it's there And it's just enough bitterness to knock it cloying or build up too much It's the well-balanced beer. Yeah, it's so good I wouldn't mind it being a little less sweet actually otherwise. I think it's great I think that if you pull the sweetness back a little bit, you have to pull the hops back a little bit Just to keep it balanced and the abb Mvabb. Yeah, so I don't mind the sweetness at all because I think that the hops do a really good job of cutting that Man, I like this is a dangerous beer. This is one that you like I don't really know what it is I'm gonna crack it open watch a movie and you're gonna be passed out by like nine o'clock at night Oh, because I mean if you don't look at the abb and I don't see it on the bottle You're gonna drink this and keep drinking it till it's done and you're done period I mean it's just so good and so easy This is one of those beers that it's like let's see if we have a second half to this episode Oh, there's some big ones. Oh, you won't get you the second half. Oh, damn it. Yeah, I just had it What I just got this taste of something in my mouth Of a food that I mean that I didn't have today But something that I thought would go really well with this I think this would go really well with that pork belly or pork shoulder though. Yeah, I think so too Healthiness would really help ricotta like some cannelloni no like like maybe a ricotta spinach onion calzone or something That sounds pretty badass something kind of ambitious because the ricotta I'm the creaminess of the ricotta. I think would go really well with the mouth feel of the beer It's not gonna cut it's not gonna compete. Yeah, I'll cut the sweetness and since I mean ricotta's not a terribly salty cheese But they would just merge together the sweetness in both would somehow cut back the sweetness and each of them Yeah, I can see them working. I really like this beer a lot Apparently I can only come up with food recommendations if I actually like the beer That makes sense What would you think this was nothing? Tears of sadness and pain Yeah, you're drinking this with mike lambard. Yeah, I guess we all have to do our part to keep him in our hearts RIP mike lambard So why is it called hop optometrist because if you drink enough of this you're gonna get blurry eyed? And the thing that doesn't make sense is that he has a beaker that he's pouring the beer out into a snifter And he's more like a chemist than he is an optometrist. Right get your shit together roughtail. Yeah, roughtail This is doesn't even fucking make sense. He's a hop optometrist when the guy from roughtail went to an eye doctor, he went to an alchemist They mixed them up. This is not the guy you want giving you a high glass prescription I won't mix you a salve that you will rub it in your eyes Yeah, this is fantastic And I hope that the roughtail guys know how good this is even though they suck at drying optometrist some money Yes, seriously guys. Seriously. Yeah, that's a chemist. Seriously. Uh, let's move on to the next one Can you imagine if they drew an optometrist is just like some guys filling out this? Some boring looking Asians like what they do most of the time. They just fill an out paperwork blowing like air into your eye They could have they could have done like the alphabet chart and like spelled out hops or something. Oh Right could have been a little something on the same level. They didn't have to just pick mad scientist Or you could have had that weird object that they put in front of your eyes The worst Yeah, you're right anesthesia and you also right. I'm sorry to let down my fans out there Ryan hates everything right now I hate Ryan This is actually really cool. They have food pairings on the bottle It says for cuisine. You should have barbecue for cheese. It lists out different cheeses meats It says game grilled meat salmon desserts are very sweet desserts like carrot cake caramel cheesecake and crumbly That's just a neat thing to I think to have on the bottle That is a really neat thing to have on the bottle, but they really cast that net very wide don't they? Yeah, I don't know if I agree with it. I don't agree with it at all I think crumbly with this would be really intense like what doesn't fall into game grilled meat and salmon I mean, that's pretty much everything. That's not fried I can totally see game going with this. Yeah, sure grilled meat. I mean, that's whatever kind of meat you have grilled game And salmon cheese peppery Monterey pepper jack sharp blue cheddar gorgonzola limber. Okay. I can see all those That's fine grilled meat. That one throws you off grilled meat. That's all of it Maybe they just mean charcoal charcoal guess what would they do real is that chicken is made out of meat too, right? I mean grilled meat just means grilled meat shrimp is meat, but what's blue cheddar cheese? I mean, I've never even heard of that. This is blue comma cheddar There is a blue cheddar. I've had it before we should have that. Let's move on to the next beer Oh my god Are you okay? Oh god, I think JFK just shot Grant. Wait, that's not how What happened to you? JFK shot me. What happened? That was handheld right as I was trying to chuck this last bit of beer. Drinking is hard So hard People said they're gonna get me So I had a really hard time this weekend too It's actually my wife and I were looking for a new house to lease Yeah And uh, we were waiting for the landlord to come by and show us the place I was sitting on the curb and as we get inside the house and she's showing us the house I realized that there's fire ants crawling in my underwear Oh god You I've always heard as a child about ants in the pants like oh, do you have ants in your pants? Holy fucking shit. It's the earth Fire ants in your pants biting your grundle in your ass. It is like the worst thing ever I'm like, I'm sorry. I really need to go to the bathroom. I'm biting your what your grundle It's the taint area. Oh, it's called a grundle How do you guys not know what a grundle is? Everybody from all over the world has their own word for that area Wasn't that the guy who? Turned to be a fly in that one movie The grundle fly. I don't know, but yeah, ants in the pants is a real thing guys Okay, did you do a funny dance? Can you show us all the way to the bathroom? Can you show us? I can show you the scars Oh god, but I react really poorly to fire ants. Oh no Did you almost die? It was really uncomfortable to sit and wear pants for a few days. It was awful That's like, I'm like, I'm sorry. I have to go to the bathroom and I like rip off my pants and I'm like shaking them like mad Wow Yeah, I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, it's rough If I had seen that happening to you I wouldn't have Dove in like a fucking white night angel and helped rub off all the ants off With his penis out of the region Bitten all the ants in the neck and killed them with my mouth So yeah, I had like he would have just used his mouth to suck them all out of that whole entire groin area Yeah, you got a second point now, uh, so the next beer is hop shortage Oh, the one that we just had was hop automatrist. This one's hop shortage It's a triple IPA from knee deep brewing company in lincoln california It's 11.3 80v and available in bottles It says the cousin of simtra but brewed with only centennial and shino cups what yeah, this didn't make sense to me at all That maybe simtra is one of their beers like yeah, okay knee deep made him simtra That's right simtra is uh simko citra triple IPA. That's really fucking delicious So this is the cousin of simtra We actually had simtra on the show but brewed with only centennial and shinook need we say more alcohol motherfucker, okay It's a hell of a minor eraser. What six twenty five two thousand thirteen, but that's okay for a triple IPA I don't really think that it's gonna be that bad if it's an 11.3 Super super crazy hopped IPA. I mean, that's getting barley wine territory. No, it's only good If it's like 72 hours old after that, that's it Let's judge it after we drink it. Okay, and then we inside of that date was a problem nice golden orange color Yeah, it's not quite as hazy as the last couple But there is just a little bit of haze there and it actually doesn't look that opaque or thicker viscous I mean this looks like a lower abv beer in its consistency big head bubbles nice head Decent lacing when you kind of shake it around the glass that is sweet Oh, that smells like satin creamy. It's like sherbert or dream sickle Yeah, I think you're right there. There's a server with a pine tree in it. There's a Crayford sherbert with a pine tree in it. There's a lot of booze too. Yeah It's a little bit of heat in there smells like dirt like a literally dirt Yeah, it's got a bit of that there too and like powdery dried dirt like that. Okay. Okay. It's like somebody had one of those Candied orange slices, you know, I'm talking about it's like how do one of those and excited eating it and decided they didn't want it So then they spat it on the ground in the dirt and then you ate it No, that's what it smells like what area the country did they do that in? Oh, is it like rocky like california or is it like red clay is in the south? No red clay. I want phoenix A little rocky but nothing bigger than pebbles fuck guys. This is the worst I mean, it is important. What kind of dirt it is. Yeah, is it dirt that you find like in new england? Is it dirt that you find in Arizona way more specific with the dirt Then when you say ah kind of smells like citrus and i'm like no, no, no guys It's like this guy got tart and feathered But with like marshmallows and then oranges and pine just that's what happens that guy That's actually marshmallows is a really wonderful And then we're gonna eat them. I think this guy just nailed it bam completely See what happens when you make fun of me. Whoa, I just tasted this I'm not even sure what to think of that. I think anastasia was a little correct on the this was made back in june Yeah, it's a little dusty. Oh a little dusty little faded that american hop oxidation Hopsidation. There's a little bit more hops station than oh, I know him. Sorry Sometimes But I don't know. This is a really weird not very well done barley wine. Yeah, no, this is actually a triple IPA. No, I know that no, I mean as like a Not very well done american barley one this tastes like a triple IPA to me as opposed to something like 120 or double dancer which are supposedly also triple IPAs But those taste and drink more like an american barley one. Okay, sure so they have a little bit more of the darker more caramelly Right. I mean just on color alone. This looks closer to an IPA or double IPA than most triple IPAs on the market Okay, so so think about it this way imagine an american barley wine But without those caramelly darker molt instead use you know some kind of pale two-row lots of it My first impressions are that it's dusty Aspernie that it's bernie like it's got some bitterness rubbing alcohol bernie Yeah, like the burn in the back of the throat. I'm like wow that's a bit rough This is a rough fucking beer and it's disappointing that the nose on this doesn't marry with the taste like I was hoping it would No, it's opposite ends of the spectrum to me Yeah, I really I mean I like the nose despite me saying the words dirt So the thing that I really liked about simtra the cousin of this beer is that the hops were so bright and fruity And beautiful and worked really well with the booziness and the sweetness. I think it worked awesome here It's just aggressively piney and grapefruit skinny In a way that doesn't really do any favors to the heat to the alcoholic heat of the sweetness It tastes like it's wrong. Yeah, it's like we need more sweetness added in there I think so and that's weird for me to say because this is pretty aggressively sweet But it needs a little bit more I think and it needs a little bit less of that fucking booze because 11.3 To me is tasting like above 12. Yeah, it's coming off weird and super hot rubbing alcohol It's so boozy. I don't know if centennial is the right hot for it. I don't think so I think that's what's giving it It's weird dusty flavor. They need someone to corner the market on a terrible triple IPA I mean have you had double dancer that shit is nasty Sorry founders. I love you. That tastes like straight up cough medicine. I actually kind of like devil dancer I like it more than than I like this but it harkens back to his cough medicine days. So yeah, I'm in cough medicine There's it's fair. What I'm saying to do in Mexico Who doesn't like tussin? I'm really bothered because I'm really confused as to why the fuck this is called hop shortage Somebody please tell me I don't know is all their hops in here. They probably couldn't get citra. Yeah, they probably Used they probably can't get what they needed to do simtra They couldn't get what they had to make a beer. They should actually sell to people What's really interesting to those when I was visiting some newer breweries over the summer Where we were just chatting and I was like oh like what hops are you using and chatting back and forth? And I was talking about my more favorite of hops like your citra and your mosaics And new breweries if you're not really well connected to people you don't get any you can spend years waiting They're like, oh, we can't get mosaic until 2017. We can't get citra until 2015. Yeah, it's crazy I mean if you say and then you have to make your orders now for 2015 So you have to project into the future what size batches and distributions you might be doing in order that So I think it's gonna be open if you find breweries that are new and they start failing in a few years There's a good chance they could be failing just because the futures market of Hops and distribution and growth man. Not only do you have to make good beer? You have to be able to predict the future. Yes. I'm growing your own hops possibly. Yeah, are there many breweries that actually control their own supply They think they grow a lot of shoots and Sierra Nevada. I know each have their own farms I think stones getting close if they're not already there. Rogue has been growing a lot of their own Yeah, I mean, I would think that Jester kings got such a great location and and land that they could grow some things I mean, I know it's Texas hops in Texas. Don't yield that big. I mean we've got to that one hombre who grew a bunch of cascade Sure, but that's not that's enough for a hombre back. Yeah. Yeah, see how it works in a production brewery I don't know while we were having that conversation three of us dumped that beer myself included Yep, and I wish that I liked that more but yeah, hop shortage is a bitch Ryan's the last hold up and I drank it, but my wife's driving me home. So that's I have a goal in mind tonight And it's to not fuck anything because of wet noodle dick Is that a new song? Yeah Yeah, hop shortage and no, sorry. Well, we have an email to read. I believe. Oh, yeah Wait, should we get more should we get John more drunk for this? No, I'm gonna turn and it's a long one shit So I'm gonna read this email and then we're gonna go to break but it goes like this Hey, there since discovering the beer is maybe two months ago I've been a rabid listener and I've since listened through almost every episode with great pleasure Problems include losing a lot of money by an expensive imported american and Belgian beers and gaining a lot of weight since I am Sensitive the carbs and therefore try to stick to wine when drinking I'll be sending you another email with some questions and suggestions, which I hope you can read on the show This time however I'm writing because you requested some new music to be played on the show and I'd love for you to play some tunes from my band lowcut You know, I I asked people that if they have bands I said on facebook You guys have a band and some good recordings of your songs send them to me and I'll play them on the break I want to start doing that now. I want to feature listener music and he says uh I've noticed a leaning towards punk rock and was stoked when you played a dead to me song I liked it to me and he says it's one of his favorite bands We're currently on hiatus dude of band members getting kids being serious with their day jobs being cheap bastards and being drunk And he says me how do you get a kid? Uh, you buy one at the home depot, okay, but hopefully we'll get back together soon I think at ikea given where they yeah, you have to build them though. It takes a long time I have jokingly referred to work. Yeah, it takes like nine months I have jokingly referred to our music as progressive hardcore pop When it in fact would probably be more described as simply punk rock. I've attached empty three blah blah blah blah Uh, the song is called too young to die on spotify. You could find his other songs I still am and this is why we fight from our only good ep on the verge Don't have time to write anymore right now We'll be driving to berlin tomorrow to indulge in some awesome hypovisons and hopefully some other interesting stuff too Hoping that double box seasons be gone looking forward to hearing from you guys kind regards carl hansen from malma, sweden Awesome. I know we got music from speed in fuck. Yeah, music from sweden And i'm so jealous that these guys can just hop in the car and drive to berlin and probably less time than we can drive to dallas Yes, question. Yes, the ignorant. Um, can you drive from sweden to berlin that easily? I could drive to sweden from here right now Not making a lot. All right. I would somehow manage to get there It's not too difficult. Um from sweden. You can take a barge that goes across. You mean a fairy Just like a garbage truck. Well, you can take I when I used to live in germany We took one over to sweden to buy our sob. Did you live in germany for five years? Holy shit when from when I was like two till seven. So don't really count for yeah, that makes sense Well, I don't know i was gonna ask you if you drank a lot of beer Yeah, sweet that also makes more sense Beer guys, that's why he's borderline retarded. Oh, you know what to say that word? Well, no No, there is a point in time in which you're growing up in what your mental development was retarded. Oh, okay, that's a really way of putting Your mental development therefore you were retarded So let's listen to uh low cut too young to die. Thanks carl You Don't you die Too young to die Too young to die Too young to die Our master weeks i will sound the sick It happened more than that you were the only one in my sights and then coffee let's break us The radio played as a jazz We Didn't know what you did We didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did It's time for people We have to stop this course because we are the young to die. It's time for people Have to stop this course because we are beyond to die too young to die Too young to die Too young to die Too young to die Too young to die Our master weeks i will sound the sick It happened more than that you were the only one in my sights and then coffee let's break us The radio played as a jazz We didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did we didn't know what we did it's time for people We have to stop this course because we are the young to die it's time for people have to stop this course because we are the young to die too young to die Too young to die too young to die too young to die too young to die too young to die So during the break we were talking about drunk stories and some that went really bad And some that went really good night told these guys about a good friend of mine who listens to the show Uh, i'm not gonna say his name mario But There was one time i think he was probably 18 or 17 It was one of the first times he got there he was 17 because that was 16 And it was one of the first times he ever got drunk it was my fault my buddy frank squall And we had a few friends over We were bummed out by this guy passed out on the floor So we proceeded to roll him up in a rug And i leaned him up in the corner And continued partying i think that actually happened in a movie Uh, i forget what fucking movie it was but i've seen that done in the movie and maybe that's where i got The idea but you got crapped we actually did that to a real person He totally got i think they roll him up in a rug and then they throw him in the river in movies No, no this guy got crapped Probably the worst thing i've ever done to anybody in my life. I was a senior in college And we were throwing we were throwing a party It was like one in the morning at this time everyone was already hooking up and going their separate ways and the party was dying down And this freshman started getting mouthy with all of us and my friends and we're like how this kid sucked like putting his mouth on You no just getting ass holy and yeah just getting ass holy and stuff and he's like i want another fucking beer like the kegs tapped You should just go home. He's like, no, fuck you guys So i take an empty beer bottle and i go to the kitchen and i fill it up with olive oil Oh, jeez. And i handed the kid he decides to chug it throws back the entire bottle. Oh my god, really? Give me another one fucking asshole and i said Okay, oh shit This kid ended up drinking nearly 30 ounces of olive oil More expensive than beer more expensive than beer, but way funnier I thought it was hilarious a few of my friends did everyone else at the party thought that i was the worst human being alive You probably were but worth it because that guy Dropping out of college I have no idea his name or anything about it But he apparently wasn't a week later that he dropped out of college But he apparently got extremely sick in his own bed. He probably shit everywhere everywhere like oily. Yeah, just oil shit Yeah, oh that's the worst thing i've ever done. Wait, wait, wait, split all the way down the hallway into the bathroom I have one more really quick story Shit, so i was in college between like 94 and 99 Did we get it you're old sure and one of the things that came out during that okay, so i that's when my wife was born Yeah Crazy i think i went to school with her fetus My roommate and i had this column that we would write together this humor column And one of the things that happened around that time also was that free to lay came out with those wow potato chips Yeah, the anal drip chips Yeah, and on the back it says warning may cause anal leakage So we're like i wonder how many bags it would take to get the anal leakage So this guy proceeded to eat two family sized bags of oh my god to see what what happens like dude Are you feeling cuz yeah, dude i just had a bunch of delicious chips all right, sweet Nothing happened no stomach distress. It was just perfect in the morning the next day I get a knock at my door on my room and i open it up and he goes dude check this out So i follow him to his bedroom and on the bed is like head-to-foot Skidmark like somebody had the breaks on a bike That was going through the mud just all the way up and down the bed i have no idea It's like that scene from train spotting dude I have no idea how a single skidmark went from the head to the front of them i have no clue and it was like the funniest fucking anal leakage that happened i was about just It was awesome Naked we were both just dying laughing, you know he had his tiny whities on which also had evidence But it was the funniest fucking thing and i goddamn wish i had taken pictures Oh man, anyway getting to our next beer. Oh, yeah, let's try some beer now. Yeah This is from prairie artisan ales. This is punchy on punchy on i don't know p-u-n-c-h-e And this is a farmhouse ale fermented in oak barrels from prairie like i said tulsa, oklahoma This is seven percent abv and it's a rotating release available in bottles and on draft And this is a relatively new beer for them And it says a punchy is a 132 gallon french oak wine barrel Punching is a farmhouse rye ale fermented in large oak barrels with several different wild bacteria streams and the rest of its flavor notes Can we talk about this label art like real quick dude all of their label arts awesome Yeah, that one is great. I really love it. It's got these barrels with these little rooms It reminds me of like a polyphonic spray album cover. Yeah, cool. It's it Can we've said everything? No, I mean, I said a lot of stuff in my head that you guys probably couldn't you okay? I'm taking a look at this beer. It's a very pale yellow hazy Kind of golden rod pale yellow very very hazy and lots of not see through that at all lots of carbonation tipping this glass over A little bit so much carbonate. That's really pale. It's impressive. It smells like farts It kind of smells like candy on farts like citrus farts. Yes. Oh man if my farts smelled this good I don't totally happen. No, haven't you ever drank a bunch of guses and lambics and just farted a bunch? And this is like this? Yes, little my shit doesn't stink. What my farts have no odor That's like the saddest thing. No, that's great. It's awesome. Can you do it right now? Your wife is like head to butt level on you. It would be a bad situation. Yeah, this says it just blows her hair back a little bit Continue smelling. I want to ask my dad Why fart smell and he said so deaf people can enjoy him too I also heard that joke in the 40s. That's a great dad joke though. I know so good. But man, this smells great So I love it. Yeah, there's a lot of peachy Pretendomiasis so funky for me a little bit farty sure but some peach there some grass This is the best smelling prairie beer I've ever had in a glass. Let's get the oak No, and I don't think you you really need to get the oak in something like this I think it's probably a neutral. I only say that based on their flavor notes It's probably a neutral wine barrel. Maybe just a place for the bacteria and yeast to live But yeah peach and apricot and grass like he said Smells like nightmares lemon rinds. Yeah a little bit of lemon a little bit of like tangerine juice. Maybe light pepperiness Yeah, there's some pepper. That smells fucking awesome. Oh prairie artisan ails. I love what you guys are doing. Damn. That's good Wow, that's restrained. It doesn't have as much punch as I thought it might but it's good. It's got finesse It's very citrusy like the flavor is a bunch of like creamy citrus fruits Maybe like some star fruit a little bit of like it's a tangerine. Oh wow. What's that one passion fruit? Yeah passion fruit. That's one of the little seeds like green sea action fruit Yeah, this reminds me of a really good bottle of das wonderkind. Yes Really similar in their restraint their drinkability. It's just very quaffable now that you mentioned that It's somewhere in between das vunderkind from jester king and orvole Most you know that the bret has similar quality the botanomyces yeast in this has similar qualities to what you get from norvole Yeah, absolutely. I like that. Yeah, really nice and dry nice citrusy I was wondering about that um spicy note and then I thought it's a rye ale. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's right Yeah, it's nice a little bit earthy. There's a lot of lemon Uh some grassiness. I'd be psyched to see where this is in nine months What do you think would happen to it? I think it might get a little bit less subtle because right now it's very delicate beer I would see maybe the funkiness and some of the earthiness kind of popping out of it a little bit more I'll probably also get more sour with all the bacterial streams. I haven't here like it This has several bacteria. It's not a good point. You don't taste that so much right now No, no, I mean there's a little bit of tartness, you know, maybe a little bit of lactic tartness But I assume it's like the bacillus pedococcus. Maybe some acetabacter or something like that. This is great. Damn. This is so well done You know, I really like how This is also creamy while being so dry. Like there's a creaminess to this That's almost like apricot flesh or some kind of creamy fruit peaches and cream Do you think that's coming from like the esters and things that the bread are making? I think so. Yeah, I'm getting a little bit of bitterness I don't know if it's like a citrusy kind of acidic bitterness or if it's like a hot bitterness. I'm not sure It's like a eucalyptus type note. Okay, it reminds me of when you have cough drops that are like honey and eucalyptus and Lemon yeah a little bit of that. That's a very good way to put it But it's not as eucalyptus. He is one of those cough drops Yeah, it's there, but it's subtle. This is awesome. What beers of there's heavily not liked I've had some bad bottles. I didn't like the galaxy so much I thought that the hops and the dark malt kind of clashed in my opinion. I really like galaxy I know you guys did you really liked it at one point and at another point I had it after something else it clashed on my palate and I wasn't liking it So I think it's based on other things I was drinking and I've tried america a few times in both times They've been a kind of a phenolicky mess really every time I've had I know others have had good bottles Yeah, I've had three bottles of that that were all great. Goddamn it. And I think saint somewhere is okay saint somewhere That's not them very similar Collaborated with saint something. Yeah. Yeah, okay prairie hop. I think it's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah every time Their classic stays on their belgian. They'll just their standard. Yeah, praise offering. That's Fucking great. This is one of the better farmhouse ales. I've had yeah I know in top tier beer. This is great and right before it's about to get spicy peppery not heat Not capsaicin spicy, but cracked pepper spicy It kind of backs off from that like it feels like it's about to get very black pepper white pepper spicy But then it just kind of backs up And doesn't quite do that. I'm really curious to see what else is gonna come out of these pushy homes I think I mean like if it warms up. No, no, I mean I think I remember seeing a number of them and in a picture on their facebook page So I think this is kind of a blend Right, so I'm curious to see if they are going to produce another beer and then put it in those punchy ons and Create maybe this one again and maybe try something else It makes me a little sad when you only get some beers like it's a one shot Well, I mean the one shots. I really never again I really like I appreciate brewers who do one shot beers because most of the time It's because they weren't able to get a lot of a particular ingredient or because it's yeah They've worked out experiment or got lucky or yeah Yeah, there's so many different things that it could be that it's almost lucky that you get to try it Especially with this style of beer. Oh fucking total one strange Just happens to be Hercules that day and it throws the beer off balance It's just warms up. Do you guys smell a lot of popcorn? No, no, I smell Meyer lemon Yeah, to me. It's like a sweet kind of citrusy lemony. No popcorn second Gonna win this I want to drink this and go to sleep reminds me of a chamomile tea Yeah, that's way more accurate to me like chamomile Maybe that's where some of the bitterness for me is coming from like a lemon chamomile tea You're like a chamomile tea that you squeeze lemon into I get that totally I feel like I also want to take a nap just after all of these um I hate BVB always, but it's only going down hill uphill. Yeah, you'll probably roll down the hill at some point It's definitely up for a little whether you're going up or down. You're still on alcohol Either way this shows going down it might sink. I don't know So prairie has been making a lot of really interesting beers and it's pretty much like the one guy chase Making a ton of beer. I think they just opened up their own production brewery Prairie is just super exciting as a brewery I am really curious to see the next thing that they're coming out with because they're super prolific making a ton of stuff Making a lot of it and distributing it. That's cool Everyone loves prairie for good reason because goddamn they're making fantastic beers like this And we actually have two more prairie beers to do on the show Uh, we're gonna do one, but I thought it would be important to have it side by side with the other beer I am so excited. When's the last time we did a side by side? I don't know I always think back to our can you taste the difference? Oh, yeah, there are cans versus bottles episode Which was uh inspired by I think Ryan. Yeah, that's my first and my first uh, I'm drunk. Sorry. It's okay You came up with the idea for you. Yeah, that was my first appearance on the show. Yeah And it was such a great show We should do another one should where we change it up. There might be two bottles or might be two cans and we I think it should be called tap into the flavor of this and it'll be like taps versus bottles The idea is good with the name Okay, we can work on the name probably work for the bugs out of that. Anyway, that was prairie punchy on We're going to be doing a couple of beers side by side. So prairie bomb. We've had on the show before right? So prairie bombs and imperial stout aged on coffee countives vanilla beans and chili peppers And we got a bottle of pirate bomb, which is that beer aged on rum barrels So we have a bottle of each and we've poured them together and we're going to taste them side by side Pirate bomb is an extra percentage of abv. Yeah, so a little bit more Are yeah, so prairie bomb is 14% abv 14% pirate bomb is 15% And they're both limited beers. I assume that pirates a little bit more limited than prairie bomb Anytime you age something in a barrel that's had liquor in it Sometimes there's still some of that liquor in there and you know, it'll go up a percent or two sometimes in alcohol Even if it doesn't have liquor in it you get some evaporation of the h2o and yeah, the alcohol will increase Science science. So check in these beers out. They look identical. They're just really really really dark If I had the pirate bomb head is a smidgen more tan. Yeah, the other one's a little darker I think the pirate one is a little bit darker If anything, it's just very little because it's almost imperceptible, but yeah, I think you're right tan head about the same amount of head in each I think it's funny. Um smelling them the differences between them. I think of course We already had the bomb and it's it's very chocolatey. Well, let's go back to the bomb. It's also very Grassy, I think yeah, let's smell the bum first. Yeah, let's smell prairie bomb because they're both called bomb Okay, it smells like a soft dank super thick ultra chocolaty brownie Yeah, and you're right. This is also pretty grassy. This I think that's the Defining difference between them. It almost this one's really grassy. The other one is just like sweet rummish Smells like a wheat brownie almost kind of kind of I mean not as dank, but you know You know what the aroma of the prairie bomb reminds me of is that really awesome mocha cobra chameleon Smells a lot like that, but with a little bit of a grassy component and some sweetness to back it up Brownie butter. Yeah brownie batter. Okay. And then smelling the pirate bomb. I just don't get grass out of it That's really interesting like not fresh cut grass. Like what kind of grass are you going to smell pirate bomb and the grass of prairie bomb? We'll jump out. There's just a little bit more of that sort of thing I think I associate with a grassy note although I also kind of associate it with new foot the shoe and soles Which is really weird to me super weird. That's very specific I think the pirate bomb smells like baked brownies that when you get that really Crunchy crust on the outer layer of the pan Yeah, like the burnt part of the burn a little bit of char and i get more booze on the nose off the pirate Yeah, you're but it burns a little bit more you guys are all right, you know the little more buttery Yeah, and there's a little bit more sweetness there in the nose too. There's a little bit more sugary Maybe like molasses or something brown butter. Yeah, but when you say butter you mean like the big brownie sort of butter No, no, no, no. I also like when you're actually browning butter for brownies and maybe there's some cocoa powder and brown sugar too Yeah, yeah, it's like cocoa puffs too ryan when you smell them back to back. Do you get the grass? I absolutely don't really I smell vanilla. There's a lot of vanilla in both of them. I smell coconuts That's what I smell in the prairie in the prairie when I go for the pirate bomb I smell the rum and I also get more heat on the nose. It attacks my nostrils. I get something green Yeah, so do I I mean I totally get grass like just a little bit of grass It's really weird which I think it's so appropriate because it's prairie the prairie bomb to me is like Silk or satin and the pirate bomb is more like velvet. Yeah very much more chocolate Almost like a chocolate. It's like rich. Yeah, whereas the prairie bomb is going to be Saffed and silky and So here's something interesting. So I'm smelling them side by side and after I smell pirate bomb I go back to prairie bomb and I smell it There's something in there that reminds me and this is weird of old hotel room that people used to smoke in Like there's a a little bit of something like that there in the prairie bomb in the prairie bomb Yeah, so I don't get there in the pirate bomb. It's like stale cigarettes Something like like my grandpa's house. Yeah, but not in a bad way or law laws. You ever been to the bar law laws? Yes, it smells kind of like that like stale cigarettes But not like tobacco and leather, but really really deeply hit it. Yeah, not in a bad way though I mean that sounds terrible, but it's not in this. All right, so I'm gonna try Pirate smells a little bit more leathery to me than prairie I would agree with that. I think pirate smells more leathery and prairie smells more tobaccoy Pirate smells a little bit more like a barbershop versus a hotel or an old cd hotel But the other one smells like pirate makes the prairie smell better I actually think that pirate makes itself smell better next to the prairie. I like the way the pirates I'm smelling the grassy note more now. I like the time warming up. Yeah, which one are we tasting first? Well, let's do the prairie balm first. Yeah, prairie balm first the regular version This is really exciting. This is a change in our formula and I like it Oh, it's so good. I go so back and forth with prairie balm. I remember the last time we had prairie balm I was like, it's all right. It's not bad. It takes us to uh boozy It was boozy and accurate less than we had it. Yeah, but this time maybe it's the temperature Maybe it's the drunk it improved with the temperature when the temperature started going up last time The acridity kind of dropped off and you got a lot of those chocolates and coffee notes And that's what I get a lot of here. Yeah, this temperature is perfect. It's coffee chocolate Ooh Chocolate covered espresso beans Totally and we've described this beer before. It's a lot of chocolate coffee Just delicious vanilla makes that mouth feel silky and delicious. Yeah, I'm saying patty balm is still And it's get you never had this before. I've never had this. This is my first time. Yeah. Yeah, it's my first time It's really good. It's got a slight bitter acrid note to it But in this one, it's less acrid than before. Yeah, but it's a coffee acrid Which yeah, if you're a coffee drinker, it's kind of a likable flavor No, sure But the first time that we had it like the first batch of this that we had Was less of that acridity like there was a lot more of the coffee flavor No, the coffee flavor was about the same. Sorry But the acridity was a lot lower I'm not saying that there's a lot of acridity here But compared to the first time I had it there is guys guys. There's chili peppers in this beer Barely tasty. Where? Where are they? Yeah, I get a little heat spicy or alcohol spicy heat I think in the aftertaste you can kind of taste something that's sort of cayani So I went in for another sip trying specifically to look for that Brought some of the beer into my mouth and I switched it around breathed in and out through my nose and I immediately got it Like I immediately got it there. It's right on the top. Yeah When we're focused on the chocolate, you don't notice that first, but it's a spicy chocolate So a couple of episodes ago We had that mole beer that Aztec beer that you weren't here for that, but it was like a Chocolate cinnamon and chili pepper beer. I love that there. It was delicious The Mexican chocolate style. Yeah, this has a lot of the same stuff in it It's got vanilla beans chili peppers, but it doesn't have cinnamon And the other one didn't have coffee, but they're completely different beers Like this is a completely different beer from that. This is a very Finesse almost boozy in a good way sort of beer And it's not like syrupy sweet It's still relatively dry and the way they worked that out the way they kept that dryness While still having a very high alcohol is a miracle to me Can we talk about this pirate bomb now because it smells so much like cookies Okay, I want to taste this yeah After drinking the other one, I came back and smelled it and it smelled very crackery I can see that that was really weird. So tasty that it's definitely more boozy I can actually taste some booze here and it is a rumbooziness It's not a spice drum, but more like a an old rum It seems to have that cayenne spice, but it also seems to have that booze heat I'm getting heat into different areas. Yeah, it's kind of weird because it's creamier, but aqueous Also more aqueous. Yeah, it's weird super weird I think really what it did is it kind of just lessened the aggressiveness of all the ingredients added to the bomb But it also added more alcohol and sweetness. I mean maybe just a little bit I definitely get more sweetness in the pirate bomb than I do the prairie mom I also get a little bit more coffee or crinity just a little bit more And I don't know if that's actually coming from coffee being more accurate Or if it's just the alcohol that's making me think that that's what's happening Because there's a lot of booze there and and the way booze plays across your tongue Is very similar to the way coffee or crinity plays across your tongue It's the same kind of prickly way that they both could have attacked your tongue Yeah, the grassiness is interesting because at first I didn't pick up on it I'm having a hard time not just focusing on it with the prairie bomb, right? Yeah, it's really almost overwhelming It's grass versus rum is what I think is like the biggest distinguish service between the two Yeah, I do think they should do a pumpkin bomb next year Pumpkin bomb would be pretty cool Puritan bomb and non-alcoholic one No, let's not do that. That's just chocolate coffee mocha Pescetarian bomb these are all terrible fishy bomb. Let's just focus on these beers. Oh, okay I'm really having a hard time focusing on anything right now. I am too. I'm getting very drunk Brian Keep my fair you were drunk four beers again. It's very true I just keep changing my grades all over the place. I'm like, I don't know what's happening. Like I'm struggling These are delicious fucking beers though. Yeah, these are absolutely wonderful And I know exactly where my rankings are but god damn like I'm so glad that we have these side by side Because it really underlines to me what that rum barrel did to this beer. Do you think the rum barrel was beneficial? I actually don't I'm looking at his rankings and the answer is very clearly no I think that I like the regular one more than I like the rum barrel version because the rum barrel I'll talk about it in my rankings. That might as well. Just rank now and I'll just go at them or each other So my number one is maybe unsurprisingly pirate He's sucking talking. I'm so good. You're on a podcast. Okay. So my number one Unsurprisingly is prairie bomb and prairie bomb is such a good beer. It's one of the best beers. I've had all this here It is a Wonderful crazy how the fuck does this beer work as well as it does? How is it that high in alcohol and also dry? and Still a beer and still expressing the coffee the coco nibs and all the other like the chili peppers and the vanilla beans How is it expressing all those things in such a perfect balance? What a wonderful beer I would love to see this beer go here around even though I know it's probably Extremely hard to brew with any regularity fuck that beer is great. My number two was punchy on That's a badass fucking beer How fruity was that and and bready and delicious and I think that you know Ryan helped me kind of described that in a way that made sense to me Which is dust wonder kind half and half with revolve? Absolutely. I think that beer is wonderful I would love to drink that all the time. I mean it was super refreshing and just yummy my number three was pirate bomb and I think that pirate bomb is still a really good beer because my number four I still loved Pirate bomb is fantastic but That rum barrel and this is a problem I see happening with a lot of rum barrel beers Is that it gets a little bit more aqueous for some reason? Yeah for this it amplified the alcohol just a little bit too much That beer is such a delicate balance any tiny little amplification of that alcohol is a big deal to me And the way it kind of muted out some of the other flavors kind of went overboard for it But drinking that beer in a vacuum if I wasn't comparing it to prairie bomb I'd be like holy shit. This beer is fucking amazing because it is drinking it side by side Bared the flaws out to me in a way that I wish I didn't experience I wish I had that beer by itself if I had it by itself on any other show that probably would have been number one My number four was hoptama trist. That was a badass double IPA 10% where the fuck was the dark chorus of the show? No, chef. Absolutely. Seriously. Where was the alcohol in that? I mean you could barely taste it and the sweetness and the hops they were all Singing in a perfect chorus and it was it was wonderful number five for me was hoptish IPA I loved the nose on that. I really did. I mean the the tropicality of it was incredible There was a little bit of resney hop it was wonderful And then I tasted it still a good beer But it didn't deliver on what the nose promised and that's kind of why I bumped it down to number five Number six for me was hop shortage. Uh I mean if you're gonna try to do simtra without Without the simtra without the sittra and the simco Just don't because those two hops are what make this beer and I'm drunk and I'm done So I want to go next okay rhyme just because you and I had very similar rankings in a lot of ways But very different approaches to the rankings. Okay, go go So my number one is punchy on because I'm a sucker for that style Yeah, this is to me the epitome of beer styles Sweet just period if you give me the style beer versus any other style I'll pick it as my number one in the echelon of of that thing of the style being the epitome of beer styles for you How does that rank in that class? I'm just kind of randomly giving letter grades for the first time okay on the show, but I gave it an a oh sweet It's not an a plus but it's an a okay great But if you guys recall back if you die hard listeners when we had our favorite beer episode my favorite beer is war vault And john had nailed it earlier where he said it's kind of like a dust one or kind in revolve combination Even as this beer warmed up more and more and as like sifted on the side the tartness increased and fuck I'm a sucker for these farmhouse ales that are Brett heavy, but desirable Brett heavy. Yeah, I'm not articulating that well But there was like a nice tartness to it and again, I mentioned earlier I would love to see where this was in nine months just out of fun This is a fantastic beer And to me raises prairie into the upper echelons of the great farmhouse ales that are coming out of the us right now We're just awesome because we're kicking ass go perry and now this is where john and I kind of disagree But i'm not die hard set on these rankings and I had an internal battle, but i'm giving pirate bomb number two Okay, I thought that this was more true to the beer and I kind of mentioned it earlier It lessened the aggressiveness of the ingredients in prairie bomb prairie bomb was hey This is a beer that's dark with a bunch of coffee vanilla and coca nibs the name bomb fits true You're absolutely right. Yeah, but I wasn't I was like, okay Here's a beer that just has a bunch of flavors added to it But I'm not really experiencing the main ingredients of what actually constitutes beer Whereas with the rum barrel aged I felt like I was tasting more of the beer and that the bomb aspect was toned back Fair enough and I kind of enjoyed the booziness that was extra added to it And a little touch of the oak and the sugar that you get from the rum And again, just the fact that all those other flavors were toned back a bit more I felt like I could really enjoy the stout more. No, I was about to insult your mother, but you totally justified your opinion Cool. I'm really psyched on that. I'll say your mother's horror and go My dad listens to the show. Oh, your dad's probably so happy. Yeah, he understands Sorry, mr. Bish Keith it's cool. Um, your dad's name is Keith. You met him. I know He was mister. That was his first thing fair enough. Yeah. Mr. Mish. Mr. Mish. Well, I don't mate. Yeah, I'm from Texas beautiful men Prairie bomb was awesome and it took me a really long time to find that grass note And uh, thanks for picking it out because it dropped this beer to number three the grass note The grass note fucked with my head after a while is just too much But again, it's an incredible incredible beer And if I had to give this a grade, I would give it just slightly below what I would give this cigar city Unavus. Thank you, which is a very similar sort of stat with, you know, everything added into it But again, cigar city, I think presents more beer for than ingredient for it. I'll just go on to number four Hoptometrist. I really really enjoyed this beer. The 10 percent was completely hidden It was a touch sweet, but it really again Melted extremely well with the ivy use of that beer very nicely done And then very quickly, I'll say five and six where exactly what john said period hop dish was five hop shortage was six You articulated what needed to be said sweet you guys just listened to this 10 minutes ago And you're probably not drunk. Oh, you know what? I'm only drunk. All right Listeners. Listen, we're also probably drunk. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thanks for coming back. I appreciate it. It's fun Who's next the archivist? Wait, just kidding. You want me. Oh, no. No, no grant should go. Okay. Okay, granko Number six Goes to the hop shortage This beer got dumped, which means it was not that good. Yeah Um, the nose was great and then I just disappointed number five went to the hop dish Also, I like the nose, but I didn't really care too much for the taste a little bit too aspirin a so Number four. I went with the haptometrist. Yeah, that was good. Wasn't it? That was actually a really good beer Which is a testament to the other great beers in front of it. Yeah, yes Great piney smell. I love I thought nessi it tastes like nessi or crystal light Sweet tea. I grew up Literally drinking that at least once a week. I drank pictures of that and I was just making nonstop I loved crystal light iced tea and haptometrist Really tasted a lot like it, but in alcoholic beer form. So what a great transition for my childhood to adulthood with that nostalgia with the tea and then current grant Davis with the hops and beer and alcohol It was just a marriage of happiness for yeah, that was your whole and you just drank your entire life And yet it only went as number four. So I know, you know, obviously I just can't be pleased completely No, because number three went to the prairie bomb I'm another person who put this below the pirate bomb. Okay, because I really enjoyed a lot of the flavor I mean, it's great. I raved about this on previous episodes. Oh, yeah, um, the chocolatey ness Those grassy notes that I actually like I I'm not hating on it because of the grassy notes like uh ryan did But I think overall What I craved from this beer was a little bit more of a sweeter note I felt like a richer sweeter note was delivered with the rum barrel aging that the pirate bomb delivered which goes to number two Yeah, it just I think that that sweetness just enriched into the the chocolatey notes It just made it so much heartier so much more delicious. I love that beer. I like the word enriching and rich It's one of those drunk term cheese. Yeah, and number one goes to the punchy on Fuck what a great beer. Holy fuck that beer. It was amazing Really? Actually, that's all I wrote for my notes amazing. Yeah, I got another written other flavor notes Like oh, they had this had like these really delicate whatever. It's amazing. It's amazing here I totally agree with you really grateful. Thank you evan gundy for all of these beers. Fuck. Yes evan Thank you so much. Anastasia once twice of three times a gundy You have to do that again because he opened the door Yeah, I was trying to find the the entry point now. We don't have to retake that. This is I really liked it Ryan went and took a piss and now he's back and this is where we're at Anastasia I am saving myself editing That's a pretty good one. I don't think we need to cut one. Hey, hey shut up. Oh, shut the queens Shut the fuck up. Let's get this shit over because mama has to be I was gonna say I've never seen you so excited about giving rankings before dude, dude bound down to the queen of farts For real. I'm gonna go next john. I've totally just taken over go and to stick with the theme of rankings tonight. It's gonna be like All we need to do once I give my rankings. I don't understand a bit of go Everybody's rankings were totally not what the other people expected which grant mentioned Hop shortage first Number six hop shortage. I expected that you all put hop shortage at number six Yeah, I can say these things because I take the notes. Yeah, that's so good My official official rank. I don't even know where link in california is queen of farts Number five is the hop dish like the three of you. Yes Only two farts. Yeah, go But those those are to be expected because none of us really liked them as much I took like three sips of the hop dish. I took about two of the hop shortage Yeah, I don't know if I would really actually order either of those beers. Never. I might order hop dish I kind of like that one. I would try it again. I would try it. Yeah, whatever. Whatever. What ever? Number four Pirate bomb. What? I'm a pirate bomb the lowest out of all of us Wow So so grand and ryan put pirate bomb a little bit higher because they liked that it was a more muted Prairie bomb. I put it lower because it wasn't more muted prairie bomb I like that prairie bomb is bomb.com I agree with you on that and to be fair the top four for all of us. I think were exceptional beers. Yeah, they were all Yeah, yeah, they're fucking good Really fucking good. And I think this is where your mind's gonna get blown. Okay. Number three hopped on a trust What right? Anastasia picks a double IPA and her top three unheard of stop the presses call your newsboys slap him silly Anastasia was out of town in the 1930s Over the weekend. God. I can't wait to slap my newsboys I know there's news use. Oh, I mean, I feel like Zoe Deschanel's giving us her ratings all the time Thank you She's my spirit animal. Oh, that makes sense So, you know my hot face has come and gone and you know, I'm a hipster. So been there done that right? But this optometrist I found insanely Quaffable. Yeah. Yeah, and good like remember the first time I had double jack from fire store to walk in. I was like, oh my god So this is kind of what I felt when I had the optometrist. I was like that same love I thought exactly of the double jack and just how good and balanced and well made it was for like a 10 percent double That's a really good Absolutely comparison because double jack is a badass. Yeah, I mean they're two totally different double IPAs But I still have that same kind of wow. No. Yeah, I totally get you. Thank you. It's taken enough time Number two Prairie bomb Fucking love you. I agree with your number one This is number two. That's my number two. I know but I agree with you number one. Oh, yeah Elimination I actually had most of my rankings close to with John and anybody else but that pretty bomb. I love love love And again, I was thinking in the realm of we had a number of different styles of beer tonight And I love the prairie bomb. I love that it's doing all of these things. It's doing that coffee. It's doing that cow It's doing that vanilla, but it's also kind of nailing them. It's not a hot hot mess It's more of like a oh wow I've got this and this and this and this and I want a party with your mother Super good super good. Nine number one is dog. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's you're so good Like Ryan as soon as or fall and doss was said. I was like yep made sense, right? Yeah, danger zone Total danger. It's blue city I'd like to point out that you got an equal amount of ratings to me and Rubio I mean the top beer for everybody was punchy on whether it was number one or number two bottom two We could also be kindred spirits We're not Am I just left out again guys? Get out of here weirdo I'm saying is like I think everybody's rankings when you were giving your rankings Everybody was like what because you you had some unexpected rankings when grand was giving us rankings There was some unexpected things. Yeah, I don't even know what anybody's talking about Okay, Rubio when you were like hop shortages the best beer ever. Everybody should buy it. We were shocked I don't know how and then we saw dollar bills falling out of your pocket How is it that I like Lincoln California? I marked on them way you all by like like a hundred pounds and I'm fucking wasted You guys seem to be talking circles around my You got eight. You know how many guys did you have before we got here? No, zero Did you need dinner? That's a wine before we got here. How many Chipotle's did you have? None I that makes sense. I didn't eat that. You didn't eat dinner. Rubio. You gotta eat it before these things. Come on Do I need to remind you that I get paid to be a beer manager? That's a good point Good night everybody Oh, that's not how we close it. No, okay, we're gonna continue with the winning factor I was gonna say we also kind of get paid by the listeners Although we could use a little bit more. So hey if you guys want to pay us Please go to at beers.com and click on that Okay, there's very many times that I bagged but please send us money Paypal donate legs on the beers.com on the left hand side. You sound so depressed I have just really drunk. We'll figure out some better systems. Okay. Anyway, thank you guys for being here It's been a pleasure being on here Thank you to Evan Gundy for saying these beers for a third time in a row Evan Gundy This guy is basically sponsoring our show. He's trying to be a rival for stone. Evan got us wasted. Fuck you Yeah, you hear that? Can always step it up If you would like to become a sponsor of the beer's podcast Please send an email with the beers you're gonna send us to info at the beer. He's like, what? I thought we'd prefer your clean livers. That's not how sponsors work. God. Damn it, Grant I mean, he gets his name on the show. That's kind of a sponsor I completely agree with promoting his name brand. Grant never I retracted Thank you for being on the show. Anastasia. Thank you for being here. I think I got more sober somehow Yeah, you're a machine made of nut drug I tried before I came here We just you just shut up. We'll close the rest of the show If you roll me if you roll me up in a Ryan thank you again for being here. Yeah, I love it It's like you need to end on some sad Soulful song. Oh, no, thank everybody for listening you guys are awesome and Thank you so much for all of my fans out there. I've been getting a lot of facebook requests I'm sorry that I don't accept them You know because it's great because I've never met you in person. You're weird. It's okay, but I understand where you're saying how john harvey sucks No john harvey's great. I love john personally, but I can see where you're coming from Wait, did I say great? That's sweet probably So we start John harvey is a person. We hit the middle break with uh the low cut song. Yes. Are the front back end of the low cut song? No, I guess one one well, I I'd just like to point out that mike and I have our kazoo band called kamikaze Japanese Japanese hard metal that's played all with kazoo You should put our band at the front back if you send me a kamikaze song by tomorrow I will play it at some point in the show. Oh shit. It's just gonna be mike vomiting mike. You gotta not up here I have no idea what we're gonna end this fucking show in What do you think? I'm trying to do a thing you guys are terrible right now No, it really you're just that drop that you don't realize how terrible you are Something so better when i'm drunk. No, no, you're a schmasty schmasty. Oh god. It's weird man. I Very rarely see john this drug. I rarely see myself I think you're gonna fall asleep. Good night, everybody. Hey bottoms up everyone's up and thanks again. Evan gundy. Thank you so much bottoms down You know that you guys You don't say god you don't say Oh my god, but I don't know what's happening. This is the juror because i've ever seen you on the show Really I'm gonna see my pants. I'm not wearing any pants. Okay Good night I'm gonna do it on purpose blooper reel just If you're talking about if you're talking about reading something it doesn't need to be on purpose You kind of suck at reading so you heard me read a thing earlier and now So this was the carl handsome email. I'm not gonna read it now that i'm wasted and see how this goes Just to have this as a comparison to how I was reading it earlier Hey there since discovering the berest maybe two months ago I've been a rabbit listener and I've since listened to almost every episode with a great pleasure That's really good Edison just fell down on the poor lap Edison just raffling Problems included losing a lot of money by an expensive important american and belgian beers and gaining a lot of weights Since i've sensitive carbs and therefore tries to fix the wine when drinking wish I do a lot of I will be sending you another email with some questions suggestions slash suggestions Oh my god, which I hope you can read on the show you guys i'm trying to read a email This time, however, I'm writing because you requested some new music to be played on the show And I would love for you to play some tunes from a band loca I've noticed I've noticed a leaning towards punk rock and was stoked when you played the dead to lead song One of my favorite one of my favorite bands. We are currently on hiatus due to this email This this email Is just making me mad No, no, no, no, it was beautiful. I I know I appreciate the guys gesture and the song is really good, but I didn't really see I can't read your email twice, dude How dare that dick make you here? How would you why would you make me breathe that twice? Man, you must mouth is so much of that. It's amazing It was like there was three words in that entire paragraph somehow God damn it. That's amazing. It's very traditional. I know that's exactly how I feel That's exactly thank you grant. We're gonna take some water breaks and Come back to you next week. 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