Take Ten for Talmud
1639BabaBasra5- Runya surrounded, yet close enough to the adjacent field
very good morning on behalf of teach 613 we welcome you to take 10 fitam what Bababasra dafheb Bababasra five a pagination is nine we'll start on the facing page on the first wide line masnisen the Mishnah amakivis kaveru michalash ruchosov a person surrounds his friend meaning his property surrounds his friends property on three sides we go to Sarishan of a sashni of a sashlicious and the outer person put a fence on three of the sides amakivis nouso we do not require the inner person to contribute to those fences because he does not yet have benefit because his fourth side is still open and therefore animals thieves whatever you are protecting from can still get in Rabiosi omirim amakiv godasaravis migagulam al-Lavasakol if he preceded and closed in the fourth side and we could be talking about the outer person closed in the fourth side or the inner person closed in the fourth side and displayed his interest in being closed in then he has to contribute to the entire endeavor of this inner wall that's surrounding him as an outer wall that the outer person helped him with the Gomara has quite a discussion about exactly what the responsibility of the inner person is to what extent you'll take a quick look though skipping two lines into the Gomara itmar we learned Rabhuna Omirakolafimasha godar indeed whatever type of fence was built that's the type of fence that he has to contribute there is a dissenting opinion hiyyabaravomirakolafid mekonin bezul the cheapest type of simple stick fence but there is a concept of the type of fence that was built in shokanara simen kufnun rez we learn that this is when the fence was built adjacent to his property with both sides contributing so that he's a partner and he's going to be able to use the wall as a resting place for his beams or whatever it's going to be functional for him if however the outer person built it within his own property then the inner person is not going to contribute the full extent of the price of the fence because after all let's say it's a stone fence the normal benefit of a stone fence is to be able to use it to put beams on it and if the outer person put it in his rishus in his area in such a way that he's claiming personal possession of the fence then it's a whole different relationship but if it was built on the border and the inner person it's been decided is getting the benefit then he would pay the type of fence based on the type of fence that it is let's move on to the today's daf we have two stories regarding a person by the name of runya it's an unusual name and we have specific stories in his relationship with ravina who is a known Talmudic sage runya this person runya acve ravina may arbar ruchosov was surrounded by ravina in fields from four of his sides obviously he gets access to his own field in whatever way the rules will apply but he's surrounded by ravina ravina built a fence around the property on my lay and he told runya havli camo de gaudry I want you to pay for what I have put up a fence loyo yavli runya didn't give many money basically ignored him so ravina was persistent and he continued havli the fee the make on imbecile give me according to a minimal amount of if the fence had been a simple stick fence loyo yavli runya ignored him he didn't pay him so ravina continued havli aga netirusa give me at least the amount that you would have to pay for somebody to walk around and and protect your field and what you see over here apparently is that even a cheap stick fence was worth more than the price of a low wage person just to walk around and keep it from being raided by animals or thieves or whatever loyo yavli and again even that minimal amount runya didn't pay yamahad one day have a co-goddard dickly runya was busy with his date trees omele la arisay so ravina told his worker zil shkomina kivura de aihini go try to grab from him some of those dates ozo la asuye so this worker went to try to get rama bacala and runya start screaming how dare you take from my dates omele la rabbina said all I did was stage something here and goal is a die take you indeed prove to us the men are near along that you really do like the fence in other words the two different ways that a person can look at their produce one is very careful it's my produce how dare anybody go near it another way would be and not so careful it's a little goes it's it's par for the course don't worry about it a person who's a stickler would be very happy to have a fence a person who figures listen it's the quest to do in business what do I need to put up a fence I'll lose a few dates so for that I'm gonna put up a fence but you see that you're very careful with your things you're making all false cuz you stood to possibly lose a little bit well yeah the isa ba'alma even if there were a few goats roaming around here you would lose something and apparently that bothers you mila boi niti rusa don't you want to be guarded and you should pay me some advantage that you're getting from this fence omele runya finally responded he said isa ba'alma if it was just goats lach luyeboy all I would need is a person to call out to get them a little scared omele so Ravina said okay vallav gavrab bois demechli love wouldn't you need a person to you you're gonna hire a person to do that so at least give me the benefit that you're getting also look I made the rova finally the case came to a dintora to rava omele and rova told runya the zilpai sabemai de ifai is go appease Ravina for his fence with the amount that he's willing to be appeased the elo because if not if he can't strike a deal here the inan alar dinar curavuna libidir abyosi I'm going to rule like Ravuna in the opinion of ravyosi that since you're surrounded on four sides and you're benefiting you're gonna have to pay your shear of the fence and you gonna have to pay a lot more so rashi says he rova is not striking a deal on his own he's taking the lead from ravina rova intrinsically holds like this more strict ruling you would have to pay half the fence rashi says you see from this this is how we poskin you have to pay half the fence but Ravina is being benevolent he's saying okay so at least pay me something at least pay me what you're benefiting and even that runya kept ignoring him rova says at least pay that and that's called appeasement ravina's willing to accept it take him up on his deal the gore continues with the second story with runya and we see from this story a little bit about who this runya was from the first story he looks like a very stingy fellow but from the second story we see the sensitivity that they had to runya and apparently what he wasn't being considered a bad guy he was just a person struggling to make an honest living runya zovin arra amitsa de ravina runya bought a property on the border of ravina simple way to understand this is that runya is in the middle with a property ravina surrounds him on all four sides and now there was a property for sale adjacent to those outer fields belonging to ravina and runya bought it so for ravina let's look image of dinner de varmatsra ravina thought that he could push runya out from that property by paying him of course but he could force the land to be given to him because of the adjacent property rule which is that a person who has an adjacent property to something that's up for sale is supposed to get the rights of first refusal he's supposed to be offered the property first before anyone else has a chance to bid on it and he has the right to come in now and say I'm willing to pay you but I want that property and he was gonna bump run ya out we'll explain this a little bit more in a second amo lei rafsafra beret de ravier valeravina rafsafra the son of ravier rea yevo said to ravina amri inchi you know there's a saying by people arbo litzala arbo olitzala la la let's keep it simple we'll learn like rashi's first approach for loaves are needed for a poor person to support his family and for loaves are needed for a rich person to support his family in other words people need to support their families and he's got mouths to feed and he also needs to be respected accommodated however we word it there are a number of approaches here in the interest of time I'll try to give a quick overview of what's going on here we have the concept of bar metsra the adjacent property and the source for such a concept is a sisa ha yasha vahatov it's proper because of a person as an adjacent property it means a lot to him to get that property because he'll be able to harvest everything together the planting season he was able to plant everything together it's just much easier for him it's an advantage that's more unique to him than to anybody else in the world and we say to the other people go find a different property to buy this property is perfect for him respect him allow him however over here Runya was a poor person he finally has a property to buy presumably that he could afford that's nearby his other property even if it's not perfectly adjacent and therefore rafsafra braidera viva told Ravina even though you are technically the bar metsra you're the literal next door neighbor to the property but Ravina is also in close proximity and he's also got issues trying to put together a living for his family and therefore the sisa ha yasha vahatov for you is not greater than the sisa ha yasha vahatov to try to help him and therefore Runya should be allowed to keep that property despite the fact that he's not literally the adjacent person as much as you are going back to the previous gomara when Ravina was asking for compensation for his fence Runya is not such a bad guy in the eyes of the gomara he's ignoring it because he can't afford it and he's trying to avoid it and Ravina was accommodating but he wanted something you're getting something from the fence at least acknowledge that say thank you say give me something for it and that's this gomara two stories about this person Runya yeshikohah thank you for