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You're listening to a 1FM podcast. ♪ Oh when the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh when the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh how I want to be particular ♪ ♪ When the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh when the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh when the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh when the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh how I want to be particular ♪ ♪ When the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh how I want to be particular ♪ ♪ When the saints go marching in ♪ ♪ Oh how I want to be particular ♪ And welcome to the AFL Opening Bounce Live and Local here on 1FM. And yes, that was the Saints theme song. Bit of a story as to how we ended up with that song, but we'll get to that a little bit later. I'm Jason Asplendit here in the chair again for Opening Bounce as we have already finished Round 17. Round 18 starts tonight with Collingwood vs. Jollong, and that will be a cracker game. But I have in the studio with me, Sydney the Bridge and the Statsman, Hayden Bridges. I'm great, I'm good to be here, yes. And what an exciting season. Already at Grand 18, which is amazingly quick. But the football we're seeing, actually there's the odd blowout or whatever else, but there's some really close games. There's some really tense wins like, you know, the Saints beating the Sydney, who would pick that? Who would pick North? I picked it. Well, I did too, yeah, I know. I picked the West Tippa, we pick them everywhere. I picked Free Man or Beaten, this one's the week before. I'm on a roll. I've got two tips right for the year, that's it. You picked Giant's beating Carlton? No. Did you pick Kangaroos winning? Yeah, I did. Last week, I tipped Kangaroos, yeah. No, that was a big one then. But I didn't tip it home. I didn't tip Port beating. No, I wanted the puppy dogs to win, but we'll talk about the puppy dogs. Tiny, I know you're listening in. We'll promise we'll get to talking about your Bulldogs very shortly. I've got a big knife and fork, you know, really slice them up those Bulldogs. Oh, careful. He's a butcher. He'll come and cut slabs off you. He can try. And our show goes nowhere without Marcus Datsman. Owens, how you doing, Mark? Hello, boys. Hello listeners. Yeah, like you said, can't believe it's round 18. And what a big week it was in football, of course, over in the West that we saw what was going on there with Adam Simpson. Isaac Heaney. We now know that he can't win the Brown low medal. This year could be the third player that is ineligible to actually go on and win the medal at least on votes, of course, being, like I said, and I'm making a mess of this, aren't I, boys, but ineligible. So, interesting times and always a lot to talk about when it comes to the AFL. All right. Well, let's have a look at last week. Now, last Friday night, by the end of Friday night, with Essen and Beaten Collingwood, 80 to 92, our Collingwood supporter, Heather, who was very cocky earlier in the piece, had the Essen and the song lined up. I said, that's it. It's the song for the week. So, for Heather, just for you, I have this for you. [MUSIC PLAYING] See the longest line up, up, to win the premiership flag. [MUSIC PLAYING] Yes, I know it was really hard for me to press play on that, because we all know how much I love the bombers. But just for Heather, I put that one through. I can see my iPad already probably dinging from her reply, but it was very interesting. Halfway through the Saints game bridges, she sent me a text going, "What's your Saints' play doing in the cheer squad?" As Dougal Howard decided there, and no song for you this week was a comment halfway through. Well, by the end of it, when the Saints got up, I said, "Guess what song we're having this week?" And it was a big week in football, but it did start on Friday night, 12 goals, 8, 80, 13 goals, 14, 92. The bombers had every answer for your post. That's that they were pretty good, unfortunately. Well, statistically, the side that one should have won, etc., were all over Collingwood. They smashed Collingwood on the outside with uncontested possession and handball run. They won the contested game. They controlled the air plus with the marks against Collingwood at the MCG in the National Indigenous Radio Service game last week. And they tackled pressure on Collingwood was really a late plus 13 around the ground and inside forward 50 pressure for tackles plus eight. Bridges, I was surprised at how well less than played. I got to admit that. Again, Collingwood, they're only a shadow of themselves. The injuries have got them. And I know everyone's carrying injuries at this time of year, but it has really mucked their season around Collingwood. Whereas I got to say, Essendon was good. And on that, as I said last Friday night, and I cannot see Essendon missing the final. The thing with Essendon is they've only got two multiple goals scorers. So they've kicked 13 goals and they've had 11 different goal kickers. So they've spread the load across there, which made it really hard for the Pies defence to stop. Their run and carry through the middle was very good. Still side bottom, our local man. He was definitely the best pie out there. 30-40 sposles for him, and he was really good. But who went with him? Dacos didn't really give us anything much at all. An injury to my check. Oh, I disagree with that. He had 12 clearances, Nick Dacos. Essendon contested the sposles and 31 disposals all up. He didn't gain the metres that he normally gained, but it wasn't as bad game as everybody was saying on poor old Nick Dacos, who set to really hide bar for himself. I didn't think he was too bad. No, he wasn't the worst guy. I like the fact Chris is going forward a little bit, three goals for him. You've got to find some avenues for goals for Collingwood, so your midfielders are going to have to take that step up. Well, one of the problems I had was Hill was painful, Schilt was painful, and Frampton was terrible. Like those three... They wouldn't happen to be looking at your spuds list there, which are bridges. Well, they do show somewhere along the line here. You know what I mean? You cannot carry those two little small forwards of theirs. When Bobby Hill is on, Collingwood went. He wasn't. He'd done a couple of things, but the rest of the time he was sleeping. I can't give any more positiveness to Essendon. I've just got to move on. It's hurting. Let's move on to the next one, which was Saturday. This was a cracker of a game. I did tip this one, and no, I tipped the Suns. No, I did tip the Suns, bridges last week on the show. However, I put me two cents on sports bed on North Melbourne, which was well worth it. 87 to 83, 13 goals 9 to 12 goals 11. The Kangaroos get their second win of the season by four points, and it was an up and down game that started off with a bit of a win to North, and then the Suns got up to a couple of goal lead, and then North kept it back and kept control for the rest of the game stats. Yeah, a game. They controlled the clearances in the stoppages, North Melbourne, plus 16 in clearance and plus 19 in stoppage. They won the marks around the ground overall, plus 15. Their tackle pressure was really good, 63 to 55. And even in open space, they looked really good and burnt the Suns for pace on occasions. Look, the Suns won the contested game, but that was about it on the afternoon. Every other KPI went to North Melbourne, so the side statistically that should have won did win, in this case it was North Melbourne. Yeah, they did get challenged like it. It wasn't an open there. I thought the Suns came at them, but North stood firm. That last 10 minutes from North was very well done. And the win there now, the question has to be, did they cost themselves a number one draft pick for winning that game? That's the big question. They need wins. Whether they'd like the number one draft pick or not, they need a few wins, otherwise they're not going to have some of the other players around. And this is a classic case, I think, where stats will say a team isn't tanking, because they can't afford to lose Zuhar and a few of these are Luke Davis, Juniaki, that are all up for contract or free agents at the end of the year. What's good to get another first round number one draft pick if you lose two three superstars because you're just inept and can't win games? Well, I just looked at their supporters. Their supporters weren't worried about gaining or losing a number one draft pick for a second year in a row. They just reveled in the victory and they were totally barreting for North Melbourne to get over the line. And it was a really big forward step for North Melbourne. We had the two wins this season in line, seven aimed spot. But Colby McCurcher was outstanding. 37 disposals, six marks, meters gained 666 on that wing. Harry Schiesel has always since he's come to North Melbourne. Was great as well. 35 disposals and 10 clearances. Alright, let's move on. Let's talk about tiny bulldogs. We know he's listening in. He rang me just before to say, "Don't you dare bag my bulldogs." Well, tiny. 15 goals, 12 102-port Adelaide. Eight goals, 654. Bulldogs stuck locked in a dog cage. Yeah, they just didn't turn up. Really, I was... He's probably turning it off right now. I tip-port thinking at home that they would get over the line. And you've got to take into account that ports had a tough month. They've had the living cross beat out of them. The coaches have been vilified, is a really good way of putting it. And they stood up. And the bulldogs didn't. They barely gave a whimper. It was a very disappointing performance. And that could cost them the eight. Losing that one there, bulldogs needed that. And they didn't get it. Well, Ollie Wines from Echuca was outstanding. One goal, 130 disposals, nine clearances. And 12 score, involvement support Adelaide. Miss Jordi Hardy's with the five goals. One was really good in that forward line. And Jason Horn Francis is having a good middle part of the season. Isn't he 20 disposals? Nine score, involvement, three goals, one. I think he's been great all year. I really do. I think he's been... He's seen a lot more prominent in recent weeks, so I'm finding. Yeah, he's picked up superstar boats from in the last few weeks because of his effort. In the St Kilda game, he was very good, probably the best player they had. So there's the North Melbourne guy that's not for North Melbourne anymore. Just because you get number one pick doesn't mean you keep him. No, no, but they did get some decent. Where did the bulldogs go from here though? Another long-term injury to Aaron Norton. The rest of their forwards thought the football was poisoned and they weren't allowed to touch it. Jamarra didn't have to go find his disposals. I've got to click the thing the opposite way to get hold of it. He had seven touches, kicked a point. And Evan Francis, he was the sub. He had five touches as the sub. So the sub's almost topping your top forwards. Been off the last few weeks, Google. Darcy didn't do a real lot either. Nine touches for him. And Jordan Sweet, nine touches, 42 headouts against his old side. So Timmy English kicked two goals and had 17 disposals. Jordan Sweet won one goal, nine disposals, 42 headouts. Doubled him. I'm given the day to Jordan Sweet. I think that's pretty fair. Supercoach wise, Timmy English smashed it so he was more efficient with the ball, I think. Well, I think we sweet in particular. They gained the territory battle. They were plus 11 inside 50 and they won the contested possession plus boarding. The uncontested possession port on the outside plus 33. The dogs, a little bit handball, happy again. Port one up by one in the end, but 142 handballs. Look, they have cut it down in recent times to be fair to the dogs. Look, they won the clearances plus two and the stoppage is plus four, but they just couldn't gain any yardage from that clearance and stoppage and just turn the ball over. The tackle pressure was okay. Plus 16 tackle pressure, but, yeah, look, they're right, Nate. You know, they're 11th on the letter currently. These are not done, but it's just the inconsistency. They're at elimination final every week from now on, though, aren't they? Oh, absolutely. Like there's only six rounds left. They've got to win at least five of those to get into the finals. So they're just about the person's reaching towards the switch on their life support machine bridges. Yes. Has it flicked the switch yet? Their best is more than capable of doing that. It's just if you're going to get their best on a weekly basis. Do they need a new coach? I don't think so. I do. I don't. Fan base again is out for blood for him. Yeah, Freddie wouldn't be very happy. Yeah, for Freddie. Remember Freddie was on him a little while few weeks ago, but maybe he turned the corner. But now, yeah, Freddie threw him in the garbage can last week. He's toast. I just, I don't know, the players to me look like they don't know what they're... Like you were talking about the handball stats. The DNA of the Bulldogs is to handball quick and get it moving. Yeah. They flip flop as I like to call it. Yeah, and which is fine when they're on, but when they're off and not playing well, then all that does is get them into trouble. And that's what happened last week, and they got into trouble. So I'm just not convinced that he's the right man anymore. I just think his message is getting tired. The players don't know whether they're on the field, whether off the field, who's going to be playing, who's not going to be playing. All these little things. Is it a case where when you've had a coach that's been a successful coach like he has been, and it's getting a bit stale, that you maybe go to a Port Adelaide or somewhere like that, and you just do a swap. You know, you go, of course, and you go to Port, okay, look, Hinckley's not done the job for you, but he's a good coach. How about you take beverage in his baggage, and we'll take Hinckley in his baggage and... What are you suggesting a coach has dropped? A coach is, no, a trade. Coaches trade. Trade coaches. Just, you know, putting it out there, but you're saying the message is stale, or clearly it is, or it's not getting through one way or another. No, no, no, you're wrong. Their list should have had, like, they won a flag in 2016 that was never theirs to win, and then they should have won probably two flags since then, because their list was good enough, and they haven't. And so they've underachieved in the last seven years. Yeah, and I think that's why I think it's time for a change. All right, cats first. Sorry, Tony, that's it. We're finished with your Bulldogs now. You can, we'll get back to bag, and I'm later on in the show. You can hang that and wipe your eyes. Yep, you can. He'll be just about out of waters now, so he'll be pretty sad. Geelong cats, 16, 14, 110, the Hawks, 9 goals, 5, 59. The Hawks have been, they've been coming, they've been pushing at the eight, but they were found wanting. Just to spread a goal, kickers here for Geelong, they kick 16, 14, and Brad Close, kick 4 goals, Jeremy Cameron, kick 4, 4. Gary Rowan with 2 goals, Shannon Neal with 2 goals, 2 and Sam DeConing with the 2 goals. So there's five players there that are 2 goals or better in that side, so they just had that spread. What they've been doing with Tom Stewart in the last couple of weeks, he's been getting tagged at heart back. Brilliant moved by Chris Scott, he's put him into the midfield, and then he just sags back. And then he just sags back and gets that in the set. And nobody's on him anymore because he's lost him. So that's been a brilliant move by a course Geelong and Chris Scott, and whoever says that Chris Scott can't coach that totally wrong, because that was probably one of the moves of the season for mine. Mitch Duncan was really good, ten marks, 25 disposals, meters going 391. But James Whalpel for Hawthorne tried really hard, kicked the goal, 26 disposals and 7 tackles. Yeah, no, Hawkes were found wanting. I kept waiting for them to release the handbrake off themselves, but it didn't come. Geelong were just over them. Traveling down into the category, it's probably the first time Hawkes have been down there for... To look at their outs, okay, Sicily out. Now, Sicily's been really good. And as much as this guy does go up and down, Guineven has been really good for them the last few weeks, and he was out as well last week. So two big outs for them that they just didn't have any answer to cover, especially with Jeremy Cameron being able to go. They just, their forwards had too many answers. Sicily's the controller in that back line. And they didn't have him there. So that hurt them. Cats though, that gives them a springboard, gets their season back on track, and keeps their top four hopes probably still even alive. And moving on, we actually will jump to a sponsors break. On the other side of the sponsors break, we will finish the round up of round 17. Of course, the AFL opening bounces brought to you by Goblin Valley Massage and Natural Therapies over in Marupna. Go and see Michael over there for all your little aches and pains or just a massage. He will help out with all those little extra bits. Do you have an A called pain that just won't go away? Or a scar that just doesn't feel quite right? Or not happy with the appearance? That's where Goblin Valley Massage and Natural Therapy can help. We specialize in remedial massage, gentle scar therapy, oncology massage and trigger point therapy. We also offer private health rebates for all our services. So call Michael on 0422 75282 and visit us at 115 McLennan Street or messages on Facebook. One of him sponsor. And welcome back to the AFL opening bounces. We continue the round up of round 17. And we're going to have to get through it a bit quicker because that's got some massive topics for us this week. The next one was an upset win. We all tipped the blues here I think in this one. Eight angles, eight big giants. So 116, 16, 8, 104. So two extra straight kicks was all needed stats to get the giants over the line. Yeah, you might have went for Carlton boys, but this was my orange ruffie in the round GWS. And at quarter time I sort of thought, well, it's Carlton by 33 points and I sort of thought, well, I'm nearly throwing the LTAB ticket in the bin, but hang on to a gamble responsibly. And I'm glad I did because GWS, 8, 8, 8, 116, the Carlton, 6, 8, 104. Patty Cripps tore it up early for Carlton. He ended up with 33 disposals and six clearances and two goals at a game. But it was off the back of Tom Green and Locky Whitford in particular. Got him back into the contest. Tom Green with a goal, six clearances and 33 disposals in that midfield and across Harback. Locky Whitford with Mark 7, 30 disposals a metre is going of $389. Like Carlton were, you know, disappointing. And this is the type of season why I said at the start, we haven't such a great season. Because there's nobody like Sydney as well. There's nobody standing out and just winning and always a head and shoulders above everybody else. Carlton travelled, didn't like to travel and John stood up. I was impressed with John's and that may save their season that big win there. Because a lot, like most except you stats, had Carlton winning that. I got sidetracked with family and listened to the first quarter and already basically put the green tick on me. Me tick and then later on I went back to me footy tips and I'm seeing this cross there. I was like, what did I miss there? They had a look back at the spot and it was an amazing difference in the game. So the Giants needed that though without that. They were on the Bulldog's life support. Oh, hit outs 45 to 22. So, you know, that's a big loss there in that midfield. Another one was three ticks, Carlton was 19. Was Pitnet managed out or was he injured? The coning was the rock but was Pitnet. Did they dump Pitnet last week? He hasn't played for a few weeks. He's in this week but he hasn't played for a few weeks. He played the week before. No, he didn't. Yeah, yeah. No. All he was listed to play then. Toby Bedford was really good in a tagging role. He initially was on Sam Walsh, another fight he's influenced and then went to Patty Crips when Patty Crips was on fire and really doubled him in the second half. Now I like that as a coach just to change. You know, you've got a tag of working, okay, fair enough. Walsh didn't have a lot of influence but Crips was. So to move him across to Crips and then he shut Crips out of it, that's what a tager should do. Like if you've got a guy like a lucky kneel and you've got him off his game in that first half and someone else is burning up, well then switch him across. Even if Locky is able at some point get going, you can always move him back again. Harry Mackay kicked five goals. There's been a lot of talk around Charlie Kerno. Very poor Charlie. Well, they think that when it's not going Carlton's way, Charlie just doesn't really stand up. Is that fair? I think it is. It is. Fair is it the fact though that when the game's struggling, two big standing in the forward line, they're in each other's way. There's not enough of the ball coming through. They can't, their leading patterns change. Someone's got to go up on the ball. Harry tends to go up and go a bit further up on the ground. He goes on the ruckus. Charlie's job is to stand in the goal square and lead out of the goal square. So they're playing different roles. I think that's possibly a little harsh on a dual common medallist to go that way. You play on, you know, like he played 33 super coach points. Bridges is looking down at his speed list to give me stats. This is the good thing. Oh, he's already written them down. He played 122 minutes of football. From your big full forward, who is leading a Coleman or whatever else, it was a poor game. All right. Let's go on Dockers versus Richmond over it. It was over in the West. It was 16 at 9, 105 to 7, 12, 54. Dockers flogged them 51 points and Brace sure had a day out. Yeah. He was good. Wasn't he along with Caleb Sarong, who's been having a really good year. Hayden Young, two goals, 124 disposals, five marks, 501 meters going. Very poor the week before. Yeah. Ten score involvements really up the ante on the week before. So good on him in that midfield. Just Tracy. Where five goals, he's starting to become a really significant player in that forward line for the Dockers. Absolutely right. After being, he was in last year mostly, but he really has stood up. And now, do they need another big forward? Is he going to be able to be that forward the first decent forward they've had since Pavlage? Well, it depends on what they're going to do with Darcy and Jackson. Those two together cancel each other out. Yep. It's almost as bad as Gorn and Grundy was last year. And if Jackson, when he goes forward, he's not doing enough. And as soon as Darcy goes down, Jackson has a day out. So I'd be moving, I don't know, Darcy's a big solid boy. But if you could trade him right now for something, trade him and keep Jackson. Jackson still had a good game. 121. Yeah, because Darcy went down early. Yeah, right. So then as soon as Darcy went down, Jackson becomes the main man again. Well, I thought Nankervis battled away, though he was up against Darcy and Jackson, and he had 36 hit outs to Darcy and Jackson's 28. I thought he tried really hard in that midfield. And actually, Richmond won the clearances plus six and the stoppages plus eight in the end. But again, they get front of stoppies like some sides do and just turn it over. With so many rucks up and down this season, is Nankervis in all Australian contention? He's been pretty consistent all year. Oh, you've been great. And he's had no help around him. He's had no midfield around him that's really been there consistently. I just posed that question. And Gordon's gone down there for two or three weeks. Gordon's gone there. Grundy's probably one of the others that's up there. But then he's dropped away the last month. Yep, English isn't done much. Marshall's been up and down. Is Nankervis possibly the number one rock in the league? It's very close. I wouldn't - if he was picked number one now, he'd still say that Gordon has been better. But if he - Gordon, Mrs Street, weeks in there... Gordon's had so many bad weeks though. He's had so many awesome weeks as well. Yeah, about balancing it out. All right, let's get to a game without Gordon. 17, 10, 17 goals, 10, 112 Melbourne, eight goals, 10, 58, 54 point winners to the D's. And not only did this give the Eagles another belting, it cost him a coach. It was the first game of the Sunday and the last game for Simo. Unfortunately, and we'll talk about that in the topics a little later on. But full credit to Melbourne. Trent Rivers was outstanding across half back with seven clearances, nine score involvements and 29 disposals just rolling into that midfield. Nine marks and meters gained 609. So, on the wing, he was really good with one goal. 25 disposals and mark seven meters gained 492. Tim Kelly tried for West Coast the 23 disposals and seven clearances. Oscar Allen up forward provided something for them with four goals. I wasn't as sought up. A lot was saying that West Coast didn't try and looked out of sorts. I didn't think that that was the case. They actually won the clearances plus five. And the center breaks plus 10. And only minus two on the tackle pressure on the afternoon. So, there was something to take out for West Coast as well. They took 15 marks inside forward 50 as well. So, from a KPI perspective, it wasn't as bad as what a lot of people were suggesting of West Coast for mine. It definitely wasn't their worst performance of the year. When we get to talking about Simo later, I'm not quite sure that I understand the logic behind his removal after this loss versus some of the other worst losses they've had. I think Melbourne were lucky they were playing West Coast on the day. Oliver was their second worst player on the ground. Oh, it was by the Oliver. You know, like 51 in his game time. Sparrow wasn't much better. Bayoui was terrible. Varnie wasn't much better. It was one of the worst games I've seen Varnie play. Melchum back in. That's a good back in. But, as I say, Melbourne were lucky they were playing West Coast. Alright, let's move on. I'm skipping a game for a second. Lions versus Adelaide. We're going to talk about next 14, 13, 97 to the crows, 13, 8, 86. It was a pretty close game and the Lions were in front all day. But Adelaide just kept coming at them and they just didn't give up in the end. Lucky Niall was absolutely outstanding. Was any three goals, eight score involvements, 36 disposal, 10 clearances. Meade has gained 523, 18 of those 36 disposal. Half of them were contested possession. Yeah, he was good. Dunkley was good again. Dunkley's been having a pretty solid year again for them. What a pick up he's been for next to nothing from the Bulldogs. McInerney was okay. Ashcroft is finding his feet still after having a knee. But he's still their fourth best player on the ground. So that's great having that guy come in this late in the season. I'm just, again Adelaide don't travel. They travel badly and they've done that again and it's cost them. Where do Adelaide go with their forward? Like, Texas is going to have to play on again next year with their forward line being the way that it is. There's no error apparent. Phil Thorpe is back this week after doing a miniscus. He's got to be their key forward. So we'll find out he was looking great at the start of the year and then he done a miniscus. So I know exactly what that means. So he doesn't need any replacement like I did though. But he's back this week. So he's the next big guy. All right. Well done to the Lions. Kept them back into the eight I think. Although they may have been eight last week but anyway they're locked in. Right, match of the round, definitely ended up match of the round. Saints, 13 goals, 6-84, nearly doubled their normal score for every week and it's still only 84. 11 goals, 16-82 the swans. This was a game of two halves or a game of definitely two different momentum. 29 points the Saints were down by there at one stage and managed to edge their way back with a bit of brilliance in the, I think it all started from Google how it's rest in the cheer squad. That's touch on the line and then he just had momentum went into the cheer squad. But the Gumpai called it a goal and they reviewed it and it was seen as touched. And they made the right decision so that showed the process work stats. The video reprooses. We saw it worked. Yeah. Oh look, Saints were okay. They were looking good with a few minutes to go before, five or six minutes to go before. Which part of that, hang on. There was two parts of this game. Which part were the Saints looking good at and which part were they not because the swans destroyed them at stages. Yeah, but I was saying the Saints were the first quarter and the first two-thirds of the second quarter. Saints were right up and in front and doing okay level at quarter time. Yes. And then swans kicked five easy ones to finish off at half time. Absolutely slaughtered the Saints. Come out and kick the first and even the second. And then the Saints started to ping them back. I am written off at half time I was, if you were about my house, you would have been seeing something fly at the TV at times. Well 39 points, half way through the third quarter. 29 points, half way through the third quarter. They were 29 points down. Yep. And looked down and dusted. And then Cooper-Sharmon got a goal. Dougal Howard saved the goal. Cooper-Sharmon gets a goal. And then a couple in a row and all of a sudden they believe. And Henry was magnificent. He was quite a few of the Saints that took an extra step. The KPIs in that game stats, I am curious on that. Because it was a game of two completely different games put together. Well there was stages with the KPIs in particular that St Kilda had a dominance. And the swans obviously had a dominance in the end. It was less than a kick in it. The tackle pressure from the States was absolutely elite. 63 to 41 plus 22. Marks in the air, they controlled around the ground but they won the contested battle in the air as well. Around the ground marks uncontested plus 29 and plus 8, 15 to 7 with the contested marks. A course particularly inside forward 50. The center breaks were even 11 each. They got them on the outside St Kilda a little bit. They won the uncontested possession battle. And they got them at times with handball run. The swans won the clearances only just. They did win the territory battle. 54 inside 50s to 41 and a course had more shots on goal and had their opportunities to win it. And over the last three or four weeks this has started to become a bit of a pattern for Sydney where they're squandering their chances in front of goal. They won the stoppages as well and they did win the contested possession at ground level plus 8. I want to ask a couple of questions about momentum of where a game goes because this was clearly a momentum game. Dougal Howard made an amazing act that changed the Saints thought pattern and they kicked 3 or 4 in a row. Then out on the wing and this cost Isaac Haney probably a brown low. This Josh battle knocks the ball forward 15 or 20 metres. It takes a right hand bounce and goes out of bounds and they call it deliberate. It was a ridiculous decision because if he wanted to knock it out he would have just tapped it straight out. He was under pressure. Saints were rushing. He was just trying to move the ball forward. Instead the umpire calls that Isaac Haney loses the brown low in that exact play. It swung around. That was the play that Isaac Haney punched Webster in the head. But then the swans kicked two or three quick goals. He kicked that one and then he got another one straight away. Straight away they kicked two or three goals. Momentum shifted. I thought the Saints are going here. That one little bit just lost everything and then they just found a spark and that was young into his Philippu. He was terrific. Last quarter then he had 12 touches. Remember he got a goal and then all of a sudden they just got back to six points and you're like hang on. We've got a chance here. We've got a chance. Well the one can assist in all day and he's been consistent all season. He's on that half-back line. He's Nassau, Wanganine, Malira. He was absolutely outstanding. 28 disposals. Six marks. Meade has gained 488 and he's been carrying Saint Kilda basically all year. I'd be very surprised if him or Marshall was the other one who was up against in the ruck. Of course Grunty and McLean did it basically by himself all day. He had seven marks around the ground and 13 kicks and three handballs as well. I thought he was really good and one of the catalysts along with Wanganine, Malira, how they got back into the contest. St Kilda. Well he has to be up there for all Australian. Well he definitely is in all Australian. Well he was the other one. I mean he took 14 marks. So the Saints did what they had to do to get the win and it was a good momentum thing for him to be challenged. Lose the momentum and just swing that bit back. But the Swans, they really should have won that shouldn't they? Well statistically I'd probably say that Saint Kilda maybe had the better of it just. But it's like Eben and flowing a little bit with the KPI's. But at the end of the day there's nothing like scoreboard pressure. And Saint Kilda kicked 4-2 in the final term to the Swans fight behind. So at the end of the day you take your chances and you miss them. Well Logan Mcdonald that's two weeks in a row. He's had the chance to ice the game and he's blown it both times. 27 shots to 24 the Swans away. So that says it all and bad kicking boys is what is it sitting? Bad football. Bad football. And the Saints have been terrible at this kicking goal and yet they got 13-6. 13-6 yeah. And that was the difference, exactly right. That was the difference at the end of the day. One of those was a point and then it's a game over Sydney Win. And the same Sydney had the opportunities. Like you say they could have won it there right at the end and he blew it again. All right well before we go any further I'm going to bring superstars into it. I don't know who you are but you must be some kind of superstar. Okay superstar, tough week for superstars but extremely rigged results. Oh rigged. Extremely rigged results this one. Okay. McCutcher, 37 disposals, 666 metres gained. Showing us why he's going to do great for Tasmania. Unfortunately but that's where I reckon he'll end up. No votes. Jeremy Cameron, four goals. Good to see him back in the limelight but no goals. Tommy Green got the win over the Blues but no votes. Locky Neil, three brown low votes for sure but no votes. One vote goes to Matthias Philippu, got kicked back to the twos. Five, six, eight weeks. Yep got told mate you're a top draft pick and we think you're great but hey you're playing like a spud and he come back. He's shown football now so he's shown that spark and desire that we needed and he was a big catalyst for the Saints going forward. Two votes goes to Henry, Liam Henry. I thought I know yes you could say Wanganee Malira but it was Henry's just it was in and out when they needed him. It was the moments that actually happened. A couple of good handles. Little bits that he did was great. Three votes goes to Cal Wilkie. Okay. It's not big. It's not big. It's not rigged this by any chance. Okay. Three votes goes to Cal Wilkie because it was the wall of Wilkie. They couldn't get through him. They couldn't do anything further but four votes. We've got a four vote today. We've got a four vote. This is definitely rigged. Four votes goes to Dougal Howard. They come. Four votes. The dude won the game off his own hand as a defender. Actually if you look at his first 10 or 15 minutes in the game he was outstanding. He played very well but he was 40 metres out from goal when that kick got kicked and he raced he did everything he could to get his hand to that ball and touch it and then he had a rest in the cheer squad and apparently they didn't stomp on him. Lucky he wasn't playing SNN or he would never have got out without cleats in him but he saved the game and he won the game with that touch and it also sparks and killed it from that moment so I don't think it's going to affect the end of year superstar results because I don't see a full back getting too many more votes but I just felt that Dougal Howard gets a special mention especially since I got a message from Heather our Collingwood supporter about halfway through the game saying did you see that Saints play a rest in the cheer squad? No song for you. You're not going to win. Can I have an extension on superstars just a couple of local players that played really well for their perspective clubs on the weekend. Fire away. Joy Simken of course. Norman Marutna player is now at North Melbourne. He had six marks at 28. He was really good in that win for North Melbourne against the Suns of course and then we had Ollie White who mentioned him from a shooting star for Port Adelaide against the dogs and then we had of course Jarman Impe who even though they lost to Jollong Hall Thorne he had 22 disposals and had a five tackles and a bit of an impact. They're called former Sheppin and Swan and Sheppin and a player and we mentioned him as still side bottom Tully Garoopna with 11 marks 513 metres. Gainty can hold his head up high. The two time Collingwood premiership player in the loss against yesterday. So the superstars were not rigged in any way. I disagree. You too? Yeah. Like you say it's not going to affect the overall. It was about doing something when it mattered. Superstars not about getting 45 disposals always. It's about doing the little things and the little things were saving that goal and then winning a game a quarter and a half later by two points. That was what I thought. All right. Before we go and let bridges, torches or a few people, we'll have a quick look at the ladder which is on my other screen. There we go. Swans still on top though but instead of being three games clear, they're only two games clear of the blues who could have got a lot closer had they decided to win but they chose not two. There's a percentage there. 140 to the swans and 116 to the blues. So massive. Still three games. Yeah. The swans head and shoulders above everybody else except for the Brisbane Lions in percentage. Surprisingly. The Lions still hold 120%. So when they win, they win big. Blues. They've been kicking straight. We were on the show and was very much selling us that we should have been playing the old Heathhoe song but we didn't. The bombers beat your pie statsie and bridges. You said they had to win one out of the next two to make finals. They've won one of the next two. Does that mean we're stuck with the bombers in finals? Unfortunately. Top four. No. Yeah. I think they can still get the top four because they based on the draw. Based on the draw. The draw for them is fairly easy and it's always in Melbourne except the last game. Yeah. But they still get that means they're going to. You only had them winning like to get into 14 wins pretty much. Oh no. That's where we, but I had them being in the eight without it. Anyway, I just think. I think it's one of these seasons. You're not going to need as many wins because of other sides that are dropping games. You're not expecting and everything. This isn't like any other season. And I know McCrae says that a lot, you know, so many wins and we're looking at getting to say 13 or 14 wins. But I think this season, it's so much clustered that a certain amount of wins that normally might not get you into the top four may this season get you into the top four. There's a lot of eight point games around. That's what I was saying, isn't it? Yeah. Well, the Catsport Adelaide, they're 40 points, fifth and sixth. The Lions now up into seventh, so they're making their move. The Giants got themselves back into the top eight with their win over the Blues. And that left Collingwood and Melbourne sitting ninth and tenth on 36 points with gone out for a couple of weeks. Patraka having the rest of the year off. I think you can almost put a line through Melbourne making it through. Bulldogs and the Suns, 32 points and Hawthorne on 32 points. They're just reaching for the life support switch for those guys that they're on elimination. And the Saints, well, they cost themselves one position in the draft by winning that game pretty much and they've gone up to 14th. Crows, West Coast, North Melbourne and Richmond. And now Richmond not only have the number one pick, but if Dusty goes to Gold Coast and gets paid a big dollars in Gold Coast, Richmond will get a priority draft pick for him at one day. Yeah, but it'll be third or fourth round. They won't get a first round. No, it's based on the dollars. Yeah, but it's also based on his age and the length of contract. Suns are only going to give him one, maybe two years. That's not going to get you up there. They can give him as long as they want and then change it later. No, you can't. You can. When you do a contract like that, you have to lodge it with the AFL. So you can't say, oh, we've given him five years and then later on cut it down too. You've got to have the intent. What Sydney's saying is you can't be super silliest about it. Well, you can't sort of lodge it to the AFL and then try and wheel it back. They did with that. But yeah, but it wasn't a deliberate act. It was so. Yeah, I don't believe so. You see the goodness in everybody's debts? No one is ever evil in your eyes. Ever. Yeah, everybody's evil in my eyes and I don't know. You play the good guy card very good very much. Okay, but I think that if they take Dusty, they could offer him a four or five year deal. Give him one or one point to me. But they're still going to, even if he retires afterwards. Then he retires. They're still going to pay him out though. Not necessarily. Yes, you do. That's part of it. He can retire and say, I'm retiring. I'm not filling my contract. But then the AFL will have that in there and they won't say no. It's too late. Richmond have already got the number one kid. They can't take it off him then. No, the AFL wouldn't let that pass. And even in that, that ever incident. It was only one incident and off the back of it. There's been changes. I'm calling collusion. I'm calling it now, boys. I'm calling it. They get picked number two now for Dusty. Richmond don't want to lose some of these players that have talked like Rioli's talking and going and others going back to West Coast and whatever. Richmond are going to try and hang on to them. But in reality, should they? Should they say Rioli? Look, you've been a great servant of ours. The sun's off for us. They're number one pick. We're going to take it. They should take it. All right. Let's move on to the tribunal. Let's go to the tribunal. And I don't even think this needs a haircut because the tribunal will haircut themselves in this whole bit. Isaac, any boys, just before we even have the conversation, was the right decision made or not? Yes. It was in the context that it was intentional conduct, low impact and high contact. To the matrix, it deserved a week. But I can test that it wasn't intentional. And it was graded wrong. I say no based on the fact of everything else that is let go. Well, yours does hold water, yeah. So not only that, he fought the tribunal and he even played the Charlie Cameron. I'm a good guy. It did work. And he's never been suspended 193 games. He's had two fines only and he played the "I'm a good guy" card and he still didn't get any good guys. So he's not even a good guy. The problem was at the start of the season, the AFL rewrote the rule. That if you're trying to break away from a player, you cannot swing back the arm and hit him in the face. And that's exactly what he did and that's why he got suspended. Okay, I can extend that. It was intentional. Yes. Because this is the contention. He was intending to stop the player coming at him. Now, he may not have been intending to not to. No, he might have been intending him. But he still deliberately swung back and that's why it's deliberate. He put two acts that happened this week that were identical and the only difference between the two acts was the defender was an extra foot further away. Webster was further away from him than he thought he was when he swung the arm back. We saw Zack Butters do exactly the same thing, swung the arm back, hit the player. I'm not sure who the defender was, but he hit the player. But because the player was closer, he's hitting with his forearm in the face, still hit him in the face, just behind. But that wasn't even cited at the tribunal. There was another one. But they are identical acts. If the Bulldogs defender had been an extra foot further back, he wears that in the nose too. So what's the difference between what Butters did and what Haney did? Besides the blood nose. It's an inept system. That's the problem. It's the AFL rigging things to suit what they desire. And that's why the whole system is an absolute loaded crap. The review officer and what he thinks is a report and what we think is a report. We're nowhere near what he thinks. Absolutely. I don't think anyone's anywhere near it. Well, it's not what they necessarily think. They apply a matrix and a game. They're a three point matrix intentional conduct. Low impact, high contact, which results in a week. I 100% agree with that. However, Butters act was identical. So why was Butters not cited? Well, I'd have to have a look at what the matrix found. Now, the matrix may have felt that it was careless contact and not intentional conduct. If you swing the arm back to get rid of the defender, the rule says that's become intentional contact. But what Butters did was identical. The only difference was that Webster got a blood nose and he didn't get concussed either. So he didn't knock him out. He just splattered him and he did a good job. It's not the end to be sniffed around. Look, let's face it. It's Webster. Webster got nine weeks for Splatting Simpkin earlier in the year. Haney should have got given a week's bonus tribunal bit for getting Webster because Webster's made a serial offender of taking people out. No, he's done it once in his career. He's done it once in his career. He's done it once in his career. He's done it. He has done it more than once. He's done it for you. Well, boys, before we go off it, it's landed itself toward bigger topic amongst the AFL coaches in particular. Could the brown low eligibility be discussed at the end of the season? Maybe in this day and age of protecting the head and everything, we're seeing now incidences that once wouldn't have been sighted in the past, now being sighted and creating one week. Should there be a sort of tear of suspension so that maybe in this instance with Haney, the future you should be still eligible for the brown low? It's not possible because the brown low is if you're suspended, then you're not the fairest player. But this is what we're saying. Change the eligibility. Okay. But a few bits. One, I actually don't think Haney's going to win the brown low. Well, I'd argue that Haney is one of the fairest players for his career. Yep, okay. But if you change that part then, the Haney's one was an intentional act. How many others have been suspended this year for a slight bump, a slight attacking the ball? But they're going to win the brown low. I don't think Haney's going to win the brown low either. I actually reckon that some way he's stuck their head in the little box and done a bit of a head count on all of this because we've seen how often the AFL over the years has deliberately let AFL brown low medallist favorites off of suspension. Whether they win or not, Crips 5 and multiple others that came second or so that could have been suspended. I think that Warner and Gordon honestly have stolen too many votes. Those three are going to share the votes. It's going to be hard for anyone at Sydney to win the brown low this year. And I don't think that it should be changed stats. I'd think that the brown low still stands head and shoulders above all the other awards. You have the sun, you have the ABC one, you have all these other awards. So is it an anomaly that you can win the best in Paris at a club? Yep. And not win the brown low. And not be the fairest. Not be eligible. Remember it's not the best in Ferris to brown low. It's the fairest and best. Well, it is the best in Ferris. No, it's not rooted that way. It is fairest and best. The fairest comes first. That's right. The brown low has always been that way. Look, I agree with what you're saying those stats because suspension now a football act is suspendable now. So it's inevitable that players like Harley Reid, who had no real intention to hurt Darcy Wilson, can't win the rising star. I don't know. I thought that was pretty out, right? I thought he definitely deserved two weeks for that. He grabbed him by the back, grabbed him by the front and dumped him. Yeah, but he still can't win the medal for him. And it was a football act. Wasn't a football act. It was a Thuggeri act. Three years ago, that was a football act and it was play on. Well, and that was wrong then too. And this is where the problem comes in though, because if you change it stats, then you've got to go back through history and you've got to award brown lows to all these guys that lost it. Grant would love it. Well, you don't have to. You do have to. You don't have to because what we're talking about is the more innocuous decisions. I don't think you can drop and change. And you know why you can't do that stats? Because you cannot rely on A, the review panel. You cannot rely on the tribunal too. And you cannot rely on the appeals board. You cannot go on what they say because they are totally up in pressure. The only way you can do it and this will never happen. Well, I'll put it to you this way. Take all the matrices and everything out of it. Well, that was hell. Yes or no. Should he lose the brown low medal if he goes on the pole in those votes because of that action on the weekend? Absolutely right. I think he has to with the rule because it is. However, if you want to take the matrices out and throw them in the bin, I'm all for that because that matrix, it's like Matrix 5 and nobody watched it type thing. It's just not on. However, the only way to do it is you have to end the brown low and there's no more brown lows and you have to have a new award. If you don't want to go back and give awards to people in the past. It's only been three or so. But hang on a minute. We're talking about people in the past that probably deserved in that era to lose the brown low. Well, probably not. Yeah, I agree with Chris Grant. He was absolutely ripped. I agree with you in that incident. Okay. But if we apply then the same rule book to those players that are winning. But we're not. Let's go back between 10 years and 80, between 10 years and the brown low started from now. If you put today's rule book on those players, how many more asterisks would there be? Probably a third. Probably a third of those guys. Well, how many have won it that probably had that incident, probably three or four overs in their season? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. The game is no longer the same game. So it's either you throw it out altogether or you move on. And unfortunately, they're not going to throw it out because it is part of football. Another point there is it wouldn't bother the AFL to go back and get if they did change it and whatever else they write. There's only a few that are going to get a brown low. When they, up until, I don't know, 20 years ago or so, it was, if you were tied, then it was a camp back who had the most trees won the brown low. And they went back and gave everybody a brown low that was tied. So the AFL doesn't mind doing that. That's, that's fallen. Does the, being, and this is probably a bit now, in the past, let's say, you know, even five years ago, if you were in Isaac Kenney's position in your brown low metal, you don't throw punches and things and do silly things because you don't want to lose the brown low metal. That's right. Okay. But you've got to still play football because you need the votes. Isaac Kenney was playing football. He, he did something that, that yes, he threw his arm back. It was intentional. Their matrix says all these bits and pieces. But you say, I can test that that's not right in the initial instance. I don't believe it was intentional. Did he throw his arm back? That's what he was graded at. And that's fine. But I believe it was a wrong grading. Did he throw his arm back? You're the first to say that there's a matrix. Right. Well, there he is. I didn't make it up. He did. There is a matrix. But there's also a set of rules. And the rule was changed this year to say, do you swing your arm back trying to get away from a defender? It will be classed as intentional. Well, are we making too much of someone being responsible for every incident out there on a football field? I mean, incidents are going to happen. It's a contact game. That's, that's the problem, is that you can get suspended for doing very much nothing now. I mean, we're looking at players making decisions, 0.01 second of reaction time. Now, it takes... Is that fair? It takes... That's reality. Yeah, but it's the game. That's the game. Exactly. It's the game. So, is it fair that a player who makes a decision, how can you be willful in that circumstance? You can't be. But it was. He deliberately swung his arm back to try and break the tackle. And isn't he entitled to do that? No. We say fend offs all the time. Fend off is fine as long as it's below the head. But a fend off, I could technically argue that a fend off is actually pushing back into the player with your arm. It is. But if you do it on his neck or above, it's a free kick. Why isn't it suspendable then? If you do it that way, then it can be suspended. But it's not. But it's not. But it wasn't a close... That's usually an open hand on a closed fist, so that... Usually a flat hand, whatever, if it's worse than to be a fine going on the... I don't think Haney was a closed fist. Yes. Haney, you got him with the fist, yeah. It was just that backwards motion that you do as a footballer. You do it to get rid of your guy. I get that. Haney's done what he's done ever since he was in under 12s. You know, that's the problem is that the rulebook's changing so quick. Well, we are asking too much of players. That's my point. Yeah. No, I don't. No, it could be because the player that wins the brand low is, as a rule, the best player in the league, the most skillful, the most determined and whatever else. He also is the most fastest thing. You take Greg Williams, for instance, right? Terrific gun player, but slow as last week, got passed over by a couple of clubs wide because he was slow. But his brain was so quick, he moved his actions and whatever else. He was able to bend to the rules. And that's what our best players will have to do, is bend to the rules. Is it not luck now, though? Is the brand low not becoming a version of Beverage's Chukloto? No, it's not. The best players will not swing his arm back and hit him in the head. The best players will chop downwards and get his own hands away from it. Not hit him in the head. We're going to have to move on from it or we'll end up arguing over it all day because that's just the way things are. So, Bridge, is your good for him to be suspended? Absolutely. Stats, I don't believe he should have been suspended and was wrongly graded. On the matrix to the way they constructed it, it falls at a week, but I felt they constructed it wrong in the first place. No, I'm really disappointed in you, Stats. Oh, I am. I was all fired up to have this big argument with you this week about the fact that I reckon he should have got off. Well, this is how confusing it is. I mean, we're talking about players making decisions. Yeah. We have all week to look at it and we can't decide. And I expected to have a big argument with you over the fact that I reckon he should have got off and you're agreeing with me, I'm just starting to have it. No, what I'm saying is to the matrix, it falls at a week. So, I can't argue that because that's where it falls. But what I am saying is I think in this instance, it's not always the case, but in this instance, they got the matrix grading wrong. No. No, I do disagree with you. The matrix grading was 100% right, but they are only grading it that way. Why can't have the word intentional? You need to see the butters one then, because that was intentional. Why can't have careless, and if it had a fella careless, he would have probably got off. The rule states, if you hit him behind trying to break a tackle, it is classed as intentional. Well, it could be worse, he could be out of a job. Well, he's not. Well, is the rule wrong to begin with? No, the rule is there to stop this happening because we've seen incidences over the past. And he's, I'm afraid, fitted perfectly to what the rule says. Well, we've heard of the guy that apparently, now I've got to check this up, but Jason, you said he hasn't been suspended in 193 games. Yeah, and two fines only. And I mean, Charlie Cameron has about 100 fines. For a player of that ilk to not go on and win the Brown Lake for that incident. I just reckon it's wrong. I'm sorry, it's just wrong. Could I agree with that part? But only because they let others off for doing identical things. That's where I agree with you. And the only reason he is suspended is because Webster was half a foot further behind him than he thought he was. And he stuck his big noggin in the way and got hit by the nose. You know, they did actually argue the case that Webster was in the wrong spot. Yeah, that was part of their argument was that Webster's head shouldn't have been there. I can get all of that. But Webster probably should have been closer. But this rule also helps the defender. The poor defender doesn't have much these days. I agree with that. He can't chop the arms, although he gets away with me. He never heard of me, local football level. I always try and give the defenders a Jeff out. So he doesn't have much. And now they're saying, hey, you can't swing your arm back and clean him up. Well, that's got to count for something. So, but they've got to be consistent. You need to find the butters one. And next week, tell me about the butters one. No, because I don't ever believe. And I'll say this consistently. And I'll set it since 2010 that no two incidents is ever the same. And I won't marry two incidents. But do they not fit the matrix the same, though? Well, the matrix can be the matrix, but I never look at two incidents. I think we've reached the point, Bridges, where stats has thrown the matrix out the window. After all this, I believe in a fundamental matrix. But in this case, I believe it was graded wrong. I'm going with the youth throwing the matrix out the window. OK, Adam Simpson. Chop, let's talk about it. No more Adam Simpson. I'm a bit lost on this one because Adam Simpson's done some horrendous coaching games over the last 18 months. And this one probably wasn't his worst effort, but yet he was chopped off. Now, was he gone already? Well, for his start, I don't agree with the comment entirely. I think there were circumstances beyond his control, like the ABC in the 1970s. Remember, they used to go to the test pattern and say it was circumstances beyond their controls. And they'd go to that awful colored test pattern and the black and white test pattern before that. Look, I feel that he's been a victim of some circumstances in the last two years. They were the worst side affected injury-wise and affected by COVID as well. So I feel that circumstances have conspired against him to a certain extent. But nothing's changed at the Eagles. They're still in their rebuild between the time they re-hired him last year and now. There is nothing different than what was expected. They weren't expected to win games this year. They weren't expected to do anything special. I think the death now for him was the text messages that come out of the playing group last week. Was, "We want to get rid of you on a new coach." And this came down to those three text messages where they're aired out. And then the club itself, Pike, who is the boss there now, obviously went to the players and said, "What are your thoughts? Where are we out here?" And obviously the power of was, "We want a new coach." Then I can accept that. That's the way I read this. If you've lost the players in a rebuild especially... We'll have you have Jani lost two or three of them. I believe it was a text message amongst two or three who were they? Three text messages, we don't know who they were. They obviously held some sway. They weren't rookies doing nothing. If you have a look at the way he came into that conference, he spoke to, Harley Reid was sitting there and Bailey Williams, I think Williams was sitting there next to him. And the way is you had to say, "So don't complain." So it was either Harley Reid or Williams that was one of those that sent the text out the way it's reading. Well, I mean, you could say they lost the players, but he certainly didn't lose Jeremy McGovern, who was going to actually draw it back with a punch at lung and fractured ribs because he currently can't fly from Melbourne to Perth to watch him coach in his last game if he had made it this game on the weekend. So to say he's lost the playing group is a long stretch. Well, you don't. You rarely lose. But out of any playing group, you've got 38 guys or whatever else plus you. You always get to have a couple that doesn't. There's always some, 15 or 20 that are not happy because they're not getting a game. You'll have some that are also going to get laid off at the end of the season and they would already know that. You would have all of these things in a club. But when you've got such a losing streak, you've got such a poor list at this point of time. And let's be frank, they're only now started the rebuild as a pick and hardly read. That's the first step in them doing a rebuild. No, that's the best one. No, that's the first step. The year before they didn't do it. They got Ginby the year before and they had picked six or seven or something in the year before and he is going to be a good great player. But they've still screwed it up in the fact that they had the number one pick last year. Melbourne offered them three first round picks for the number one pick. So instead, no, they said we're going to take the number one kit. But that gives them one in the top. Their next pick was pick 34, which blew out to 39-ish. Right, so that means last year in their rebuild, they only added one player. If they were in a true rebuild, they could have traded that, got the three picks from Melbourne and picked up three good players such as a Ginby was pick. They did it with Gimby, they traded that pick a couple of years ago. But they didn't and so they were West Coast, still at the very base of a rebuild. Is that Simpson's fault or is it at all his management fault? It's a combination because the list manning has come to the coach and says, "Oh no, we want this way, we're out of that." They have a debate over it. It's not the coach solely, it's the committee or whatever, you know what I mean? It's not a single person, it's a committee and the coach joined. And they were a long way short. Okay, did they get the decision right or wrong to move him on? I think they got it right. I think they got it wrong because if they were going to move him on, they should have moved him on last year. Well, that's true. I don't think... But we all said then they should have moved him on then. So, you know, when you're doing a rebuild, you have to go radio. It's not, is this guy the right guy now? Is this guy going to put us at the promised land in five years' time? Exactly. And last year they decided he was that guy. But I think you've also got to take an account that the top, the president and whatever else was changed, at West Coast, the committee itself was falling apart. So, they sorted the committee out and now they've made it... And then they decided he's not the guy for five years' time, so... And if you had, well, I believe that they... I believe that they sort of extended the contract. Why they did that in the first place? It was just a shut up, everybody. Yeah, and look at the end of the day, it became obvious this year that he wasn't the man to take them forward past next year. I think so. So, why they did that in the first place when not in the four walls, but boys really quickly. Should he... he got the offer to coach this weekend. Should he take up that offer or no? He hasn't. He's tossing the coin apparently, but should he have coached them for one more game or no? I say yes. I think he should have, because of the service he's given to the club. I saw a post on Facebook about it, and what it was was the wins and losses on... It was on the back page of their main use pages. Right, okay. That was enough to say he deserves to go out in a blazer glory. And I'm sure that where the players like him, not like him or not, they would all give everything they've got on that last day for that new coach. I think you're right. For the old coach. And then next week for the new coach, they tend to always win, so... We've got a tough time at this week for Scofield. He... It was nice that the offer was made, but I can understand why he didn't want to do it. Yeah, I would have liked him to have coached one more game, but... I think he was rather bitter, and I don't think he expected it. He wasn't... Yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know if he was that bitter. I think that press conference really didn't do the West Coast Eagles a lot of justice, but I had seen him on interviews since, and he's seen quite relaxed. Well, he's accepted now. He's gone and accepted, mate. Have you ever been in the position a couple of times as a coach and been sacked? Right, and it's a very, very uncomfortable position to be in, because it comes in smasher. You don't hear the whispers, you don't get any of that. It's just, right, we've made a change. You're out. Yeah, boys, and I've also been in, where I've been in, and came in as the mid... Boys, who gets the role? I think Sumich... Dane Cox? Paranacist... Sumich, Dean Cox, either one of those two. I don't think it'll be an outsider. I think they'll go back to the fold. Whoever it is, it's coaching suicide. Nathan Buckley? Yeah, I could take Buckley, because you've got a bunch of kids, because whoever gets it, it's coaching suicide. They're not going to win before they sack this coach. He'll get two or three years to have the track, and he's going to get the butt. Because he's not going to pull up the wins, he's not going to do it. But in that time, they need to lose games. They need to get as many kids as they can. They need to sell anything that's of old enough value. So they need a guy with structure to bring in. Then you bring in the Dane Cox. So then you bring in your superstar to take you to the cross lane. Josh Carr's been talked about. He's going to take over at Port. Yeah, I think he will too eventually. But he has been talked about. Does that make sense, though? If you bring in your Messiah now, he's going to get burnt. I think you're right, in that way. Cox would be the Messiah. So leave Cox where he is learning for another two or three years. Bring in somebody now who's an experienced coach that can deal with a young list. Now that could be Buckley. If you're not aiming to win things, Buckley's a great coach. But if you're trying to lose, Buckley will do that job pretty good for you. I think Sumit has had his hand up there to get a job over there. What about one from left field? What about Daisy Pearce? That's gone left field and in the next ballpark. Well, she's the current coach of the AFL West Coast Eagle side. She knows a lot about football. I'd love her special comments in that job. But I'm just throwing it out there. Okay. It'd be worse out there than her. There would be, but again, whoever comes in as a sacrificial lamb, if the first female coach is brought in as a sacrificial lamb, that's not going to vote well when they go to get rid of her in three years for not winning. Bring her in in three years. Whoever's your Messiah is three years from now, pick them out now and start to train them up wherever they are. Bring someone in to help get these kids structures in place. Can Don Pike be the first CEO that actually sees out the coach and then goes and coaches himself the following season? Well, he was a good coach. I thought he was too at Adelaide. He mentally fell apart. Yeah, he did. But I thought he was an excellent coach. Yeah, I think I did too and I thought he was going to go. All right. But Scofield's got the job for now. He has. All right. Any more topics? We do. And boys. Well, I was hoping this wouldn't be quick because it's a really interesting one. Now, I want to thank David who sent our team, the opening bounce, an email. I did read that. Yes. Thank you, David. If you're listening in, David, I didn't. Now, he followed on with we were having a discussion a week ago. I think it might have been last week, even in relation to round zero. Yeah, round zero and everything. Now, he made a suggestion, I hope I've got this right because I'm going to read this out. So there are two sides in each state outside Victoria currently. The interstate side should play each other in a second week. And Carlton and Richmond should play the opener in the first week. Now, I hope I've got that right for the suggestion that he's making. The only thing I would say to it is this is not what the league wants. The league wants big clubs playing against interstate sides. That's right. In an opening round. But I can understand the logic behind what he's saying, and it actually makes a lot of sense. But boys... Was he saying it to play the second week? Or, you know, I thought it was an opening round. He was suggesting to play those clubs because... Well, the way I read it, that he wanted Carlton and Richmond as the traditional Thursday night opener. And then maybe in the same round, have that... Or in the second week. I sort of, yeah, I'm a bit... And I can see the logic in it. And David, please, if we're wrong here, do send us a follow-up email because it was great to read that. I would say that makes sense, but that runs into a few problems. Making sense in the AFL don't usually go hand-in-hand. So that's kind of killed it to start with. But the idea of opening round was to get crowds at football in those other states. If they both play each other, that's only one game. If they play in a state club, there's two games in each state. So that then gives an extra game of football in New South Wales, an extra game of football in Queensland, which is what the AFL is trying to do. I don't have a problem with either of those scenarios. What he says makes sense. Yeah, what he says makes sense, but the AFL aren't going to go that way. That's the thing. I don't mind the way the AFL have gone down with playing that. That's fine. But you've still got to complete that first round in Melbourne then to finish it off. They can be in the worst times. You can do whatever you like there. But we cannot have another by scenario as we had this year. Now, this is coming off the back of SCN during the week that had a couple of fixes. Now, I didn't know this until I researched this, but apparently now you guys might have known that the AFL this season hired a Canadian software company for this year's draw. Yes. And it was based on, it was based on crowd numbers and TV ratings and all this kind of stuff. I do believe. Yeah. I do believe. So this is how S&N got such a favourable draw. Well, maybe. I don't know. I didn't know this Sydney was obviously aware of it. I wasn't aware of it. Now, SCN has come up with four or five fixes because they believe that this is the worst draw in VFL stroke AFL history. I have to say that SCN are absolutely full of crap because if I look at the latter, I've got between 14th spot or 13th spot and top of the latter, only five games. Yeah, but what they're talking about is the bias towards. Would S&N be up there if they played all of the top clubs twice or whatever they should have. No, they wouldn't have. So who else would still be there? But other clubs have got good drawers like Hawthorne, Adelaide, those sort of clubs, Bulldogs had a pretty easy draw. They haven't done anything with those. They've suggested five points to fix up the draw and I wanted to yay or nay really badly. OK, the first one was the SCN fixes I've put here. Thursday night every week next season except Sydney in three cases. The first one when there's a boy round of six or more sides. Yep. The second is if Anzac Day falls on a Tuesday, which it does in 2028. And the third scenario, if a game is played on a Monday, like obviously the Kings holiday. What difference does that make? Those two clubs that play in the Monday. Well, these quick turnarounds and whatnot. Those two clubs on the Monday won't play on the Sunday or something anyway. So, OK, so what part of those three points are right, wrong, all three, wrong, all three, right? Personally, I don't like Thursday night football because there's just so much football and I've got other things to do. I must admit, I love it and as much as I do watch the NRL. Rugby last night. Yeah, I did watch it. Yeah, it was a good game. Why are we watching rugby stats? Yeah, but that's exactly right though. Ratings wise Thursday night football has gone off the charts, so I'm in the minority for that. And I still do watch it. I just get in trouble for it, but I still do watch it. So, Thursday night, yes, OK, I can accept it. Next. OK, so no Friday night double headers. Yeah, that's pretty obvious. Yeah, I agree with that. Because they're usually 30 minutes apart and one's in Perth. And you've got to watch two and... Can I add to that? No Western Australians, home double headers. No Western Australian home Friday night games. All Thursday night games. Well, they started earlier just so that matches normal timing. Yeah, OK, but they can't do that because AFL won't like that. No two games to start exactly at the same time. I agree with that. I don't like that. You can't watch the start of both games. You can't watch like... Just even if you stagger on 15 minutes, that's fine. Just so I can switch across at quarter time to the other game for five minutes and switch back. And then if it's getting a beating, then you can go back or whatever. That's SEM throwing away their own listenership there. And this is David's point with the e-mail that he sent the opening bounce and thanking David for reaching out again. Ditch opening round and start round one earlier. Well, I'd have to say that's OK. Just recognize round one. We're already... Round zero is two rounds ahead of where AFL's been in the past. Look, I'm not worried about that. Don't need to come back further. Just reorganize round one so that the first four or five games or whatever else are played into state. So they've got all the glory. Then, to finish the round off, you'd come back to Melbourne or wherever and then you play those games there just on the set. You can have four or five games on a Sunday to match that. If there's no game in Melbourne, then really, what crowd did you get from Melbourne? They're not going to jump on a plane and go up to Sydney unless they're a Carlton supporter and would have done that anyway. And would have done that anyway. And the one I like is, in Gabber Round, the showdown should happen. I think that's... I think that's a no-brainer. And I'm surprised that it's never happened in the two of these shots of it. But I can say it doesn't because both teams will put 50,000 people in their seats. Whereas a Hawthorne and Kilda playing against each other are going to put 5,000 seats. So it's a numbers game. It suits because they have some of the grandeur playing. Yes, but that's not what it's going about. Gather rounds about Adelaide Oval. Every game in Adelaide Oval tries to get 50. And they nearly did. Well, yeah. But there's only six games or whatever on Adelaide. The rest are all spread out at the moment. And those six games put up nearly 300,000 people. So have SCN hit the mark overall or have they got it wrong or have they got it wrong? I would agree. They've had some common sense to something. Yeah. But which means the AFL is definitely knocking on the ceiling. Do we really need a Canadian software company, though, spitting out our draw? I don't think it'd be easy trying to sort all of the round. I think it would be very difficult. I don't think it'd be that hard at all. Well, yeah. But you've got to head into this where it's an uneven thing. That's why it wouldn't be that hard. Because what SCN missed in that is play each other bloody once. Don't play each other twice. I don't want to cut the number of games. And I don't want to cut the top of the game. Then double. Then you have to go to double. No. You go back to where it used to be was if you ended up in the top eight, you played your double up games were all against top eight sides. If you ended up in the bottom eight, your double up games had to be against those bottom sides. Oh, that I can accept. That's fine. Anyway, it's not going to happen. It's logical. 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My Superstars was great this week. Four perfect sainters. Rigged. He'll should have got them from Collingwood. She'll should have got them from Collingwood. Jugel Hagen should have got them. Donald from Bulldog should have got them. Kerr now should have got them. Donald's like a kid played by two games. Who? Oh Donald's played like two games. He has not. He played last year and he's played most of this year. He didn't get them. Rothham should have got them. Fantasia should have got them. William should have got them from Bulldogs. Did Simpson get any? Who? Adam Simpson. No. Sure he got three spuds. He got the butt. One goes to McIntosh from Richmond. Okay. 26 super coach points in 90 minutes of game time. Now there's others with more than 26 or less even. But the problem is that he's one of the senior players there. He's been in, he's played in a couple grand finals or whatever else. And he's not standing up. He's not helping his young teammates when they desperately need something to happen. That's where he gets one. Two goes to Billy Frampton from Collingwood. Now I went into the Cinquilla Collingwood game early in the year. And I thought Billy Frampton was absolutely fantastic. He's marking from the back line. He's marking up forward. He was doing everything you could ask of a big guy. I thought he was awesome. But on the weekend, in the last few weeks, he's been drifting away. And if they had others to come in, he'd be playing in the twos now Frampton. 28 and 114 minutes of game time. And three goes to a fellow that I think it was three weeks ago. Got nine goals. Play of your superstar of the week. Marty, last week and this week, Marty, 37 in 88 minutes. But if you watched his game, he sort of stood around. He didn't lead. He didn't try and make things happen. He barely even got his hand to the ball. If he had marked everything he touched, he still only got five marks. He was playing on Wilkie. Only part of the time. Only part of the time. 37 in 88 minutes. And I think he got one point for the day. He is one of the reasons why Sydney do look really good when they've got to keep forward up there that marks and kicks goals. What happens when that mark and big forward doesn't touch it? So Petty's still winning with nine. McIntosh grumps himself up to sevens, so he's not far behind. Hipwood in six. You're starting to get a few standouts, bridges. However, I'm looking down this list. And I don't know how many players there are in the AFL. 700 and something. I think 99 of them, at least, are on your list already. Oh, give me a break. Three away. I don't go in and add a fourth just to suit myself like you do. Oh, come on. Dougal Howard earned the fourth. Yeah, he earned the fourth. Is that rigged or not? I think having four tankywood applies is slightly excessive, yeah. I'm sure some people out there be gone, yeah. I think so. I played the Estonin song for Heather. Come on. Well, it was to spite him. She did message in saying that the brown lotes should stay the same. However, the only reason he and he got suspended was because of the blood nose. So, if he had any blood nose, it wouldn't have even stopped. Regional theory. All right, Collinwood versus the cats. We'll find out where Heather's pies sit at at the end of tonight. This will be our NIRS coverage. So, we'll come back to this one and we'll have all the latest on that. We're going to have to go through games quickly, boys. So, bridges. No 15-minute speeches. You're the man that talks too much, isn't it? Really, isn't me. Okay, all right. Hawthorne versus the Dockers. 13th versus 3rd. 1.45 pm. It's at Launceston. So, down in Utah's stadium. And the line-ups for that one are Mitch Lewis, out injured. Gunston managed and Mitchell omitted. James Sicily comes back in. So does Josh Ward and Cal Shadier. So, some good ins for the Hawks. And the Dockers, Darcy is out. Patrick Voss comes in, which makes Luke Jackson the standalone recommend again. That's Ben. The yods. Free man, a lot of favorites. $1.77, Hawthorne at $2.85, line to an hour. How good are Freo at the moment? It's a really good question, isn't it? Hawthorne at home. Down in Tazzy. They're hard to beat down there. I've got to tip Hawks. They've got to bounce back from where they were last week. They've got to thump by the cats. Freo traveling. Yeah, it can be their bone of contention for them. And Hawthorne played down there really well. So, I'm going the Hawks. I'm a little stuck because two weeks ago, I was happy to pick Freo against Sydney in Sydney. And now I'm thinking, "Oh, because they're playing in Tasmania away, then they can't win." That's a good game. That's gut feeling. That's what that is. Yeah. That's it. So, I'm going to tip the Hawks based on Sicily coming back in. I'm tipping for EO. I mean, you're getting third versus third aim. You're getting $1.77 for third versus third aim. So, gamble responsibly, but yeah, I'm going free, man. See? Fair enough. All right. Can the swans lose three in a row? This would be, like for last week was the upset of the season. This gets the upset of the century if they lose this one. Sydney versus north. 1.45 pm stats. Game starting at exactly the same time. This one's at Sydney. Should be a little bit staggered. Isaac Haney out-suspended. And Callum Mills comes back in. So, a big end. First game of the year for Mills. Will Phillips is omitted and George Wardlaw comes in. So, both teams pretty much got some full strength sides. Noticing that there's a lot of Saturday afternoon games at the SEG this year. I haven't really noticed that in other seasons. But anyway, Sydney are $1.08. Shortest price at around. North Belman are $8.00 line and a half. 48 and a half is a line. Line and a half is 48. There you go. British is 48 and a half. I'd tell you Sydney wouldn't want to take this game lightly. They've lost two in a row. They've lost Haney. They're stumbling a little bit in this time. And I don't mind that. They're sitting clear on the ladder. They are going to play finals and that's all we're qualifying for now. One of the worries we've had with Sydney is have they peaked too early? Have they reached their best player status in a game? Have they scored the most they can? North is the opposite. They were terrible early on. In the last few weeks, they've started to find a bit of form. They started to find a little bit of confidence. Wind last week was terrific from North. I'd love to see them go up there to sit on that. They will. But I'd love to see North go up there and give Sydney a proper shock. Look, North probably don't want to win too many games. But if you're going to target games, you're definitely going to target the home games. We thought they would win over in Perth against West Coast and they did. Or actually we thought they'd lose that and they did. They managed to beat West Coast easy. They took it up to Collingwood. They took it up to Melbourne and just lost. And now they rolled the Suns. They can win if they want to. I'm going to tip Sydney, but I wouldn't be surprised. $7.50 is probably the real odds. But it could happen. I'm tipping Sydney. I'd like to see North go up there and give them a real touch. I'll change my mind. I'll tip North. Can't hurt my tipping. Well, Sydney should win it. But it's been off the back of a really emotional week for Sydney, hasn't it, with the Isaac Heaney thing? Now he might not win a Brown low medal. It wouldn't surprise me that North took it up to them. But I think Sydney should win at the S.E.J. And we've seen in the past that upheavals like the all these tribunal appearances and all the talk backwards and forwards can derail a team. The players get to thinking about that sort of thing instead of what they want to do on the weekend. And Heaney has been an engine room for them, so missing him is a big thing. But where's Kalam Mills fitness when he comes back in? If he comes back in as good as he left, they swap one for the other. It's tough to come in and first game and do. And B.I. is that Heaney is straight up? Is there Captain, isn't he? Mills? I think so. Bulldogs versus the Blues at 4.35, this one's at Marble Stadium. James O'Donnell out injured, nearly got spuds too and he's injured. Another one, you're getting bridges. Aaron Norton injured, you know, he didn't do much last week. Why didn't he get spuds? Who? Aaron Norton. Because he was injured and he played five minutes on the game. That wouldn't help her stop you normally. Cody Waip and Caleb Poulter come in. Mitch McGovern is out injured and erasure Fantasias are omitted for the Blues. Marchbank and another second Ruckman comes in as pit net. And Patty Cripps, the brown low medallist, gets 200 games up. Carlton are $1.42, the dog's $2.99, $1.13. What are we going to get from the dogs? That's the question we've got to ask. On their best, they can beat Carlton. On their very best. Did they get a kick in the pants last week? Yes, they did. Have they got the team to do it to beat Carlton? Yes, they do. If Bontonpally plays up to East bit, Liberatoria hasn't been quite the same since he came back from that head, no? He's playing OK, but he's not been quite the same. The midfield for Carlton is really, you know, quite outstanding isn't it? Welsh and Cripps and Sierra. These guys do give Carlton the first advantage. And the other problem I see with the dogs is they've lost their big pullback. Jones, that does make them a bit. I did see a bit of that game. Lobbs looked OK to me. Anybody seen all of that game? No. Do you think he could end out at St. Kilden next season, Rory Lob? No, I doubt it. I don't think they need that. No. When he's on, yeah, he's good. But he misfires so often. We've got enough of those already. Didn't take the bait, boys. I was hoping you would, but anyway. Look, they could do worse, but is he going to be any better than memory or shaman or Kamineeti? He's not really going to do any different of them except cost you an extra four or five hundred thousand a year. So, no. Couldn't take it. I'm going to tip the dogs. Why? Because I like the dogs. I want the dogs to do well. The question I have here is if player messages and things get rid of coaches, how is beverage still there? Don't know. They just keep losing superstars to other clubs, so clearly there's up rest there. Smashing here. Would that be enough to push Beveridge's door shut? I think he'll get through the end of the year, but if they miss finals this year, then there's going to be some serious discussion. He's not out of contract till the end of next year. Well. So, I'm on the blues and could this end beverage is my question. So, that's your on. No, I'm going to go. The dogs, I know it's interesting times, isn't it? But Carlton offer lost last week. I just wonder if that's rattled their cage a little bit. And I know the dogs have been really iffy. They have been. But I'm happy to take the head on offer for the dogs at 2.90 and be a bit speculative. I agree with his stats. On their day, the dogs can win this. It's just do we see the best of them? And it is. And they play a lot better than Carlton. Should we have seen more of, and I've just got a message in from Tiny, he's still listening. Obviously, we haven't lost him yet. We've still prying over the last week. Yeah, two injured players out. So, Chuklotto was obviously, did Chuklotto get missed this week? There's no... Yeah, they replaced two injured players. So, there was no just dropping a Caleb Daniel for fun or anything like that. There's no reaction there from the coach. No Chuklotto. Very, very disappointing. So, not only did he get... He's already had, he's still playing in the two. Yeah, but no, like, you know, drop it. I don't know why they didn't bring Garcia back in. I thought Garcia for the dogs was really good. Jack McCrae wasn't great last week. You could easily sail out. They won't see one of those. Keith is in emergency. Why is Keith not coming to fill that full back spot? Well, that's a good question. All right. Adelaide Crows versus the Saints. He's won quickly. Hinge injured. Rankin suspended. Phil Thorpe and Hugh Bond come in. Hugh Bond plays his first game. Nick Murray is 50th for the Crows. Across at the Saints, Brad Hill, out personal. And Windhager is injured. Riley Bonner and Zach Jones come into the side. Jones will probably end up the sub. He's going to finish his career as the sub. Who are the odd stats? Adelaide at $1.55. St killed at $2.45. Line 10 and a half. Very quickly, Bridges, because we've talked lots about these both teams. Phil Thorpe back after the knee. I'm looking. Adelaide should win this. So, Tipp and St Kilda. But Adelaide should win this on their home deck. They play better over there. And they got another big forward up there. Might help him. Doable Howard once for Superstar votes again. So, he's going to do something special. One thing we did miss talking about earlier was, I thought Bradley Hill last week was for St Kilda was awesome. He was. It's not good that he's... They're going to miss him. It was a bit injured. He went off at one point and came back on. He did some wonderful things. Hill. Okay. Melbourne versus Essendon. Another big game that has a lot of repercussions. Essendon win this. They pretty much do head to locking in that top four spot. Melbourne lose this and they can go on life support with the Bulldogs. So, I pick at 100 games. K Chandler gets 50. Max Gorn out injured. Harrison Petty comes in. No real Ruckman. Petty is going to be the Ruckman. Jayden Laverde managed. Dyson Heppel comes in and Petty is listed as the Ruckman. So, bridges... Can you get spuds as a Ruckman? If he plays like he normally does, yes. Oh, fair enough. The odds. The odds. Melbourne are $2.60. Essendon are $1.51. 10 and a half. I still say it's a 50/50 game. Melbourne have still got plenty to prove. They need to get Oliver up and running again. He was Dan Vine. Salem was again. There's so many question marks around the Melbourne team. I just got messaged from Tiny. Now, if anyone's met Tiny, he's nearly six foot eight and way's half a truck. And one of the best Ruckmans that's been around our local leagues for a lot of years. Tiny says Tiny for Ruckman. He's happy for a mid-season quick draft and go down and play for him. We've been there in Charlotte. Yeah, he won't worry about permits or things like that. He'll just rock up, play under Petty's name. He'll be good. No problems. He'd do that. And he'd probably do a good job there too. Essendon don't want to drop this one though. That's the other side of the coin. Essendon need this one for their confidence. It's up last week. If they lose this type of game against a club such as Melbourne, who we all had in the finals of the start of the year, and they drop away, and they lose this one to Melbourne, then that would be... They're going with both Ruckman, are they? Or is Goldie in? No, he's not. So Draper, Peter Wright, no Goldie. Peter Wright's husband, you know, they're just carrying him. I'm going to tip the demons just because I really don't want to see Melbourne win two in a row. Essendon win two in a row against top teams. And I agree with you. I want Melbourne to win. I'd still like to see Melbourne make the finals. If they were both in my backyard, I'd draw the curtains. But I'm going to Melbourne. $2.60 is a nice price. I know they haven't got gone. But I've got to... And this might sound really bizarre to say, I reckon they might cover it. Well, Petty will do the job. Or Vadron. Vadron has been reasonable. Vadron's like putting Mitch Owens in the rack. No, he's bigger than him. And he does okay there. And what it does do with Vadron is he gets him in the game, and then he goes forwards. He goes forward and kicks go. It wouldn't surprise me if Petty starts forwards. And everyone starts right there. Melbourne for me, sons versus Port Adelaide at 1.10pm on Sunday. And we've got half of the sons are out. Took Miller, Sam Day, both injured David Swallow, managed Sexton and Berry. Yep, Sexton and Berry omitted. Rosas, Alex Davies, Jed Walter, Connor Budrick and Lloyd Johnson come in. That sounds like you've given up for the season. Mitch, George, out. He's suspended. Charlie Dixon comes in back into the side. So probably Dixon's last year, so he really needs to get the best he can. $1.77, the sons. Port $2.085, best back side of the round in from $2.32, line two and a half. I agree with your statement back there, Jason. This is not a good look from the sons. Who are they brought in there of any value? Rose is no, Davies is no, Walter is a kid, Budrick no, Johnson don't know. But they've lost a bit of talent there. And if you go across, they've only lost George Yeadeys. And he's been one of their bank goldies. I want the three emergencies in the side. Sexton, Tom Berry and David Swallow, I want them in. I would have thought so. Sexton's been okay. If you don't try and keep your home record of undefeated going, don't you tank the away games? Really? You know, David Swallow's old. Don't tell him you don't have to do the plane flights. He's the sub, he only plays half a game anyway. He comes on and makes influence. And that's what I was going to say. He's been good when he's come on to do that. Port one last week, good for Port there. Port for me based on the outs and ins for the sons. Port for me. That's disgraceful. I think Port are a nice price. It's still even money. I've got $2.32 gamble responsibly during the week. I know it's a fortress for the sons. But Port for mine. Tigers to lock away. Number one draft pick, especially if North happened to beat Sydney versus the Giants at 320. It's at the G and changes for that one are Campbell, Managed, McAuliffe, Jacob Blythe, Noah Cumberland omitted, Prestia, Sampson Ryan, James Terese and Steely Green all come in. But Lika Legg is admitted and our local superstar, Locky Ash comes back in for the Giants. The Orange, Jolly Orange Giants has a known GWS. A $1.22 Richmond of $4.30, line 27 and a half. Terrific looking in this rock with Nick Kervers and Briggs. That's going to be great. Hopper and Caligno. That's another good match up. Taranto and Callahan. Taranto should win that. I don't like Taranto as a player. He's really improved since he's gone. Surely he's a straight Giants win this though, aren't you? I am. Okay. But I'll just throw in a bad one though, the Giants. They can, but Richmond just don't really want to win. They've got number one now. They want to keep it. Yep. They need to go. We're 7-15. Giants. Giants. That's his Giants. Eagles Lions. Does it really matter or do we even need to look into this? Very quickly, McGovern had these half dead because he broke everything. Chesa, Darling, Jack Darling, omitted bridges and he didn't get spuds. Josh Rotham, omitted. Harry Edwards, Luke Edwards, Zane True and Ryan Merrick come in. Liam Ryan's 100th game. Jack Payne and Brandon Starcific are injured. Dara Joyce and Shadoop Ryan comes in. And Jared Berry, 150 games. And it's on the National Indigenous Radio Service. It's an FM 98.5 live in local sport. This coming Sunday, a course from four o'clock onwards at Optus Stadium for West Coast, taking on the Lions. Glenn Mitchell, Jacob Landsmir. You are your callers. Expert commentator, Uber. Ash McGrath. The odds are, Brisbane are $1.20. West Coast, $4.50. Line 32 and a half. No, look, Lions. Lions for me. I don't think they would feel sorry for Simpson, but they will not feel sorry for Scovid. They don't want to give Scovid a touch up. They don't want to be tired with that coach coming in when they're first going. It's as simple as if the Lions lose this. They kill their season. This is an easy. It is. The Lions have got back into seventh spot. They're back in the hunt. If you can't take an easy kill over West Coast, what hope you got going forward? Yeah, it is tough to go over to West Coast. I don't think this is going to be such an easy kill for the Lions. Well, I'm tipping him in the wind, but there's going to be a lot of emotion around the supporters. West Coast Eagles, and there's a lot of players now at West Coast. We're trying to cement their position going forward as well. You've only got to look at those that got dropped. They've been, Simpson's had darlings in whatever playing. Scovid has come in and he's picked the ones that have come back into all kids. He's going to give the kids a run for now the rest of the year. And that's what should have been about. And the Lions don't play off the stadium that well either. I was going to say they did lose to Frio there earlier in the year, which was an upset. He kicked half a dozen to start with and then stopped. Well, I'd say Brisbane should win it, but it's not going to surprise me. 50 points by Brisbane at least. I think Collingwood versus the Cats in very short time. We need to get across to our coverage, so we won't be able to talk about this for very long. Charlie Dean omitted Jeremy Howe and Brody Mya Chek injured. I think Mya Chek might be out for the season. He's a torn pick muscle. Yep, he's done. John Noble, Jamie Elliott and Riff McGinnis comes in. Riff McGinnis will be the sub caught across at the Cateri. No outs, no ins. They were all happy, but Ollie Henry is going to wear the vest to start with. National Indigenous Radio Service coverage tonight. Barry Daniel, Chris Johnson, here callers. Andrew Cracker and Chaplin's very own Chris Egan in special comments. The odds are long of the favourites at the MZG, $1.77. Collingwood at $2.15 line is 4.5. What are they going to do as far as the midfielders concerned? Collingwood. Are they going to tag the man to the moment in the back line? Or will he get play in the midfield and go back? It's one of those things that Collingwood don't like to tag. Do they? They don't, but I think in this case they have to. Well, I think they should, but then the guy's going to stay with him. He can't let him go to the centre bands and clear that and then drop back in and be loose in the back line. That's what Joel and I have been doing. Surely Collingwood have had a look at that. It would be interesting. That's still their bug bear, Joel. They have to find a Ruckman if they're going to be up there and make the top teams on a consistent basis. They played well last week. You could say that, but they haven't had a real Ruckman for 10 years. They've played in every pre and final almost since. But they've won one. Can you put that down to not having a Ruckman? I think it's part of the part of the issue. Dangerfield back. He's had a couple of weeks back in, but so is Pendlebury. There's a side bottom that's playing well. I'm quite pleased with the way Collingwood's forward line is functioning stats. Really? You haven't got big stars down there. There's no big players down there. And yet you're still scoring easy enough. I actually think it's a better set up when Brody Mijek's not up forward. He doesn't get the ball much, but he does a lot of barreling pushing. He does, but what I find is it's a lot more open space in that forward line than they kick to when he's not there. Whereas he tends, it's a different game plan and they tend to draw towards him. And I think it's team orientated and they're doing the right thing as a team. But I sort of feel that it opens up the Collingwood forward line when he's not there so much. Not saying he's not a great play though. Yeah, I agree. But yeah, you're not real big down there. So that's where it's important that the Bobby Hills and Shilters and Elliot's do get enough of the ball. That's the only way you're going to beat your long and you have to win it out of the midfield. You cannot allow your long to win the midfielder you're going to get done. Well, Tom Stewart, like we said, has to get tagged as well. Who would you put on him, Sid? I'd actually step out of the line and send somebody like... Who's the usual bad guy down in the back line there? Mainheart. Mainheart. I'd send to him. Tough as nails. He can run OK. He could do whatever. But he does do a shut down role and I think that's what you need to do to stop Stewart. I'm going to lean to the Cats just based on the outs for the Pies. They haven't looked great the last few weeks. I know they've won games and they've gone... But a good strong win last week from the Cats. I think they'll give them a springboard to reignite their season. Elliott back in, he's a big in, a noble. I think noble should be in their team every week. I like noble. Brief McKinnis, I don't know why he's in there in the first place. I'm just concerned at the way that the Cats have been going up and down all year. They have it down now and they get done. Then they're back to being on the edge of the eight again and Collin would step back up. I'm going Collin would. All right. That's your going for... I think actually in this case, and I know I always go for Collin would anyway, but I think Collin would may get them tonight. All right. Well, you've got to have some faith in your club, mate. You've got to have some faith? Well, I don't have any, but that's okay. (LAUGHS) Look, let's hope it's a good game. We've had some really good games over the last bit, but some of the Friday night clashes have been the one-sided game. Last week was awful, hasn't been Collin would. Last week was awful, that's right. It was turned it off material. Let's hope this one comes down to Jeremy Cameron having a kick after the siren. There we go. To win the game. Point. Point. And he wins. No, no, no. He lose by four points. No, it'll be better yet a draw. Collin would have another draw. That'd be interesting. That'd be good. All right. Thank you very much for listening into the AFL opening bounce. Thank you to Golden Valley Massage for looking after us here on 1 FM. You do a great job over there. Statsman, we're going to jump to some NIRS coverage. We have two quick songs from the clubs, and then we're out of here. Thank you very much, everyone. See you next week. Good old Collin would forever play no how to play the game. Sign by, sign this stick together to uphold the magnized name. See the America's a shouting as all America's true. All the premiums seems okay. One for the good old Collin would ever play no how to play the game. Sign by, sign this stick together to uphold the magnized name. Come for the good old Collin. 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