Test Match Special

England v West Indies: Hodge hits hundred to punish England

Jonathan Agnew is alongside Alastair Cook, Michael Vaughan & Fazeer Mohammed for reaction to Kavem Hodge’s hundred which keeps West Indies in the test at Trent Bridge.

England assistant coach Paul Collingwood gives an injury update on Mark Wood who went off the field late on in the day & Kavem Hodge says the West Indies’ success is down to digging in and sticking to their plan.

Plus, Stuart Broad speaks to Aggers as he reacted to having an end named after him at Trent Bridge.

Duration:: 32m
Broadcast on:: 19 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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Open your free iHeart app and search Skincories. You're listening to the TMS podcast from BBC Radio Five Live. Hello, I'm Jonathan Agnew. Welcome to Test Match Special podcast from Fred Bridge. But Kamim Hodge has battered the West Indies into this test to slip to their leg slip. And he gets another full-bought, he drives up through mid-off. It's running way towards the boundary. He thinks he's got there already. Here it has got there. He does a leap. And one of the innings, he's been a no-he-jumps into the arms of Jason Holder. He's about a foot short of the dough. To come, we'll hear from the England assistant coach Paul Collingwood and the sentry hitter, Kavim Hodge, who have analysis of the day's play. He managed to cook Michael Vaughan and for Zia Mohamod and Stuart Broad reacts, having the pavilion end here at Trent Bridge, named after him. You're listening to the TMS podcast from BBC Radio Five Live. So there we go, the end of the second day at Trent Bridge. And I must be honest, that's not really the day that everyone expected. I know our West Indian friends are in hoping for that. But just looking at the body language yesterday and the decision over the toss and so on, he wanted really where the West Indies would get anywhere close to batting out the whole of the day. Or they've done more than that. But if 65 runs behind, they've got five wickets in hand and they could even take a lead tomorrow. And with Mark Wood having limped off the ground as well, hopefully, with nothing more than cramp, it's very hard to tell whether it's a strain or anything like that. But he wasn't limping, he wasn't hobbling off. But he felt something, he felt some sort of a twinge and immediately left the field. So that's not good news for England either. So we'll just recap on the day here, lots to talk about as always. West Indies of course started from the very beginning of the day, having England bowled out, yes, they were 416. They got to 53 for one for Mikhail Lewis. Louis was caught by Brook off show for 21 and the spinner brought in quite surprisingly early, I think, rather earlier than Stokes might have thought. Craig Brathik fought away. They took out the short bowing attack at him and he prodded up a catch to Pope. For 48, that was 78 for two, 84 for three, poor shot from Mackenzie on the stroke of lunch. Caught by Stokes off show for 11, just didn't be rocking a little then. But England didn't take a wicked all afternoon. 26overs bowled, 123 runs added the best by an opposition visitor to these shores for five years as Athanas and Hodge battled away really well. And they did hit the bad ball for four, they wasn't just a question of them having to soak it up. But they did, there was some good bowling out there, there was some short pitch bowling and so on, but they played really well. These two youngsters, Hodge made 120 terrific celebration when he reached that. He was dropped on 16, I should say, and Athanas was caught by Brook off Stokes for 82. He was the first to go, that's stand worth 175. Jason Holders innings has not been a thing of beauty. I'll be absolutely honest, how he's still there is remarkable. But he is, he's played and missed goodness knows how many times, and Joshua De Silva is with him too. So 351 for five and Western is trailing by 65, but they could well take a lead tomorrow. So there we go, let's start with Fazir. Come on Fazir, you've been a bit gloomy at Lord's. I think a little bit worried, trebudicious this morning. Ageless well on your face. Happy to be proven wrong, because I said 246 all out at the start of the day, because again just going by the trend of what was happening. Yes, much better batting conditions, but you just felt that if England got stuck in, pick up some early wickets, that they'd really mow through much of the rest of the Western is batting with a bit of resistance along the way. So yeah, it's a pleasantly surprised and happily surprised to see that level of commitment. And not just commitment, I think even with all the shot making, you noted how they were keen to get singles and tune ones into twos, and you saw the confidence growing in that partnership. And that has been one of the many issues that we talk about in Western is cricket. We saw that at Lord's where they almost struck lessness out of fear. Yes. That just waiting for the inevitable. This time around you saw that positive nature, that willingness to put pressure back on the bowler and it was really heartening to see it coming from two players at different ends of the scale, because you've got Kavim Hodge, who's on the other side of 30. You've got Alec Athanas, who is seen as someone to try to take Western is batsmanship forward and for them to put that part of the chip together, the pity that Athanas didn't go on to get 100. But surely he'll be able to take this into his memory bank and appreciate what test match batting is like and work even harder the next time to turn it into three figures. Yeah, I mean they are working on the job. One who thinks the West Indies don't care about test cricket should have watched Hodge's celebration. How much that meant to him? Yeah, and that is something that we often dismiss, the celebration that it's purely selfish. But these guys want to play for the West Indies, especially from those territories, which would have been ignored for so long, like Dominica, where it would have been never thought of 30, 40 years ago that you would be selected to play for the West Indies. For all the people back in that nation, that beautiful island, that would have been ravaged by a hurricane some seven years ago, Hurricane Maria. They're really resourceful people, resilient, and therefore they would identify with an Alec Athanas, they would identify personally with Cavium Hodge and appreciate his own challenges for 10, 11 years, trying to reach the level to get into a West Indies team. So, yeah, it's a really celebrate pretty, especially for the people of Dominica. Yeah, that's really nice. Well, Michael, we were talking this morning about, well, yeah, bowling out, we're batting softer too, I suppose, building on the lead, not winning the case at all, and that's why test cricket is so wonderful. Yeah, it's great, and full credit to the West Indies. I think we all left lords a little bit dejected actually because it wasn't a contest, and there was no real competition between the two sides. I guess we all felt today that even on a pitch that's pretty good, it's got a little bit of movement at times. We felt that the West Indies, this in experience, wouldn't be able to cope with any England ball in a town. This is the town that doesn't have Jimmy Anderson in it, and we still didn't have a concern that England wouldn't have enough to put them under a huge amount of pressure. But what they found, I think in Alec Athanas, I think he's a really talented player, and he's just at the start of his test match journey. I think he's going to get better. There'll be more challenging days in terms of pitches and movement, and Kevin Hargis, he's a character. He's a beauty. I saw him in Australia, and he's a real character of the game, but what he does do, and what both those batters did, is we talked about the counter-punch at lords, where it didn't look like the West Indies had a mindset to even consider trying to counter-punch, and today they had that. I thought even look at Joshua De Silva in that last 20 minutes. The ball was out of hit, hit it to the boundary. Yeah. So, delighted for the West Indies, we have a test match. We really do, because there are only 65 runs short of that England first innings. If they get up to there and a little bit beyond, they've got Shimajos. If Al Jazeera is if Jaden Seals, who, now let's go back a few months, we saw one of the great spells of test history in Brisbane from Shimajos, and any of those three can produce a spell. And if the clouds come in and it starts to swing, and we know the way that England bat, they'll play very aggressively, they create chances, they create chances. Yesterday, the West Indies worked good enough to take them. If they bring their catching hands tomorrow to the West Indies and bowl anything like, we could have a test match on our hands. Do you know the bit today, like, really impressed me? After all the having the laws, that period when Mark Wood went back short, pitch-boggling at them. I doubt those two would ever have faced anything like that. You just don't. In domestic cricket, anywhere around the world, you never face it. And so they would have been learning on the job there, and they played it both, as well as I've seen almost anyone play a period. We've seen England over the last few years go all in on the short ball, and you know as about there, they're going to get bombed. And actually, both of them had a real option there. They weren't just taking the ball on every time, they picked the right ball to play. They weren't just sitting down, they'd mounted ducks and balls. And also, they took a nasty blow. How's it eat? You know, Athanaso got hit very hard, and he stood obviously after all the tests. He then was straight back in it and straight back in the guts and determination. And that little period to me showed that these guys really do want to guts it out and try their heart. I know it's not about trying, but if they weren't that bothered about it, which they've been accused about in the past, they would have just tried to hit every ball for six and all well and walk off. They guts that out and with a lot of skill, and that's what I'm taking away from today. Yeah, what if the bowlers can emulate it a bit because I just felt still yesterday that the Western is fast bowlers, you know, and he's sent a shiver down your spine, but they just seemed a bit kind of pictured up. And there wasn't the hostility and the aggression that you associate with the Western is fast. But I wonder if that, we might see a bit of that tomorrow now. You never know, because again, I'm sure they would be inspired by this. Azzari Francis himself with the bat, Shamar, Joseph as well. He likes to go for the big hits. They might come out tomorrow morning if given the opportunity. Have a go and then have a go with the ball and come really charging because it's a big difference when you've got runs on the board, you've shown that you're deserving of being here at this stage test match level because the Western is almost didn't show up at the Lord. And when you're batting first and routed for 121, that's at the back of your mind as a bowler. You're going to rush in and give up your best, but you feel almost embarrassed with what went on in the field and you know that we all sorts of comments. The Western is don't deserve to be here. They've heard this everywhere they've gone in various parts of the cricketing world. That they're a shadow of what they used to be. They're not deserving of test match cricket anymore. And that takes a toll. So to have a day like this, I'm sure it's going to be a platform to at least put in the effort. Whether they'll get the reward for it is a different story. Yeah. Let's join Henry Moran down there at the broad end. Hello. Aga's Captain Hodge alongside me, what a day. Yeah, it's been an amazing day. You know, obviously when you go out to bat, you always want to, you know, contribute and contribute to the team effort. So it was really good for the guys, especially coming off Lords, where we didn't really, you know, put our head down. But, you know, I was really happy with, you know, the way the guys came back as a batting unit. You know, it's always sweeter from behind. Given how things went at Lords, what was the message for the batting unit coming into this game? Look, I think it is just a matter of, it was sticking for our plans, you know, trying not to go away from our plans and continue being positive, staying in the moment. Obviously, after the first innings, we saw that it was a really good batting wicked. So I think the message was, you know, the guys just have to dig in, give ourselves the best opportunity to get some runs. And, you know, we did that. So I was really happy with the way the guys and myself, you know, stuck in. I made the most of the day. And it was a tough day. There was some brutal fast bowling in there as well. It was. It was really brutal. But I think that, you know, that's part of the journey. It's not every day you rock up and face a guy that's bowling, 93 miles every ball, you know. But it made the innings very much more satisfying. You know, we stuck through it. You know, we had the buck, we had the flinch, some guys got hit. But, you know, that's part of it. That's test cricket. You know, it's tough, it's grueling, but I'm happy with it. The fact that you're smiling and laughing about it tells me that you love that sort of battle. Yeah, enjoy it, obviously. I made my test debut in Australia. You know, if we start coming, here's the word. And these guys are relentless, you know. So it's something that I've had to embrace. So it's just a matter of continuing that venue and then keep moving forward. Message posted on social media from the Prime Minister saying, "Taminica is immensely proud of Kevin Hodge's remarkable achievement and his performance stands as a phenomenal example of perseverance and dedication." How about that? Yeah, it's always a nice message from the Prime Minister. It's good to not only represent the West Indies, but your country. You know, not a lot of test cricketers from Dominica. A few who've played have done remarkably well. So it's just really nice to continue and follow in that vein, you know. And just finally, match situation. Suddenly, it's looking in a strong position for Western. Yeah, definitely. Like I said, coming off Lords, you know, we're in a good position. I think the message in your room is to, you know, just keep moving it along. Keep grinding, you know, just keep batting as long as possible. And make up for, you know, all the last time that, you know, we didn't have in the middle, you know. So it's just a matter of taking it deep as possible. Well played today. Thank you very much, James. The TMS Podcast from BBC Radio 5 Live. [MUSIC] Ryan Reynolds here for, I guess, my hundredth mint commercial. 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Open your free iHeart app and search Skin Queries. Well, I enjoyed that. We hear so many players giving interviews after today's play, but what a lovely fellow fans. I think we enjoyed it in more ways than one. Oh, I think so. I think it's the honesty as well. They'd say, "Okay, we were ducking, we were flinching, we took a few on the body, but you've got to survive." And again, it might sound repetitive. But for a lot of the people of Dominica, I learned like Sin Vincent and Grenada and St. Lucia. For such a long time and even before Viv and Andy, places like Antigua and we talked about the Antigua Knights at the lunch interval. Playing for the West Indies was out of the realms of possibility, which is why I made the reference to Ervin Schillingford being selected for the West Indies at the age of 33, after scoring tons of runs and then being dropped after just four test matches, even though he got 120 in just a second test. So that's the entire experience that they would know about, they'd be aware of. They may not be aware of all the specifics of those experiences because they're fairly young still, quite obviously, but they would come from an environment where test match cricket and Dominica were pulled apart for a long, long time. Yeah, it's very interesting. All the politics of ACD is quick. I'll show it frustrates you, but it's very interesting for those of us who just monitor it. Those of us who weren't in India, mind you, weren't seen sure Bashia very much. They were 23 over today, didn't bother Maiden, and that's always a little bit of a thing for me, if I'm honest. I know it does not always the case, but you'd like to see some sort of pressure being created by a bowler. It suggests there's usually one or two loose balls in every over, two for a hundred. It's obviously not a spinning pitch, is it? I mean, is that in the second day of a test pitch? But, Alistair, what did you think? Well, historically, I think Trembridge is the hardest place to bowl spin, so I think that's quite a clear starting point. I'm not sure too many spinners out there today would have found that much success. One little bit that concerns me about Bashia, and very similar to India, is that the angle for over the wicket to the right-hander, it's all challenging into the stumps. There doesn't seem to be any of that drift away from the right-hander. I'm not turning a massive drift, just as about that slight, slightly able to push draw out the eye light and then spin it back. I'm not going to rag on this wicket, and I just wondered, since India, where he did remarkable air on David's spinning wickets, he's going to be in the game, I thought someone might have taken hold of him a little bit, but I don't quite like he's run up at that angle where everything's going towards the leg stump and pushes it in. He's bold, OK. Remember, we were talking about a 21-year-old who's hardly like the first test match in England, the first day in England that he's bold, so that's the starting point. OK, he did OK. Michael? Yeah, I mean, he's a work in progress. You've got to remember, England have kind of picked Bashia ahead of the likes of Jat Leitz, because they feel he's got a really high ceiling. So what we're seeing today, and what we saw in India, India was excellent because there was plenty of purchase there, and you're not so concerned about that shape through the air when the ball's spinning so much like it was in India. I agree with Alistair, I think as a right-handed batter, you know, where you get really threatened by an offspring is when the ball shapes away from the outside edge, and that means you can challenge both sides of the bat. At the minute from what I see, I think he challenges the inside of the bat, and obviously he gets quite a lot of bounce, and it's fantastic for him, but somehow, I don't know if they can, but somehow he's got to try and shape that ball through the air away from the outside edge of the right-handers bat. With that action, with that run-up, I think it's going to be very, very difficult, but we have to be felt this was flat, there's nothing there. No. And the two wickets he got were really poor strokes, so, you know, maybe two or three times, he went past Athanas, he's bat past the left-hander, but there's not a great deal there. The three days left in the test match, he'll be required in the, well, the remainder of this innings, and in the second of the game, and I think here at Trembridge, it's only fair to judge a spinner, probably in the second innings of the match, when there's a little bit more there for him. So he's still got a big say to having this game of cricket, but that fundamental kind of in-motion of his delivery to the right-hander from over the wicket is something that, as an X right-hander, I wouldn't be too concerned about. Back to Henry, we go, and he's now talking to the England assistant coach, Paul Collingwood. Well, Paul, I suppose not the day that many of us expect is, what did you make of it all? Well, it was certainly a hard-for-tier, I thought, West Indies, they obviously got a decent partnership together from Hodge and Mathanese. So it was hard toiler times, you know, this wicket looks a really good cricket wicket, when the ball's got some movement on it, when it's swinging, it's got good curry. But if you miss your mark, then you can score runs with a quick outfield, and I thought the first session, I thought a bash, you know, for a young off-spinner on a wicket, that wasn't giving much assistance to really well with attacking fields to get a couple of wickets. And you thought it was going to be a day of really trying to prize the team out, but, you know, because there wasn't much movement on the ball, we had to go to other plans and use the bouncer plan, I thought they played that really well. So they got through that, and throughout the day we had spells from Mark Wood, which were incredible to watch. I think everybody, every single seat in Trent Bridge was taken in the gassed at the pace that he was generating, which was fantastic for him to walk off this pitch tonight's wicket list is amazing. I think that's the biggest surprise of the day. And how easy, crucially? Well, he's got a smile on his face. He said he's never had crump before, and so I think this could be the first experience of having crump. So hopefully it's just a bit of that, and but, you know, I think he's a bit of fatigue in that as well, obviously a hot day today. And we all know what Mark Wood gives. It's a 100% effort, and it was magnificent to watch. It was proper test crickets, and, you know, two teams that were fighting hard. You know, it felt at times that we thought we should get a bit more rewards, but sometimes that's the way a test cricket goes, and it sets it up beautifully for tomorrow. Is there perhaps a feeling that actually there weren't enough runs scored in England's first innings, and a few were left out there, given what West Indies have done today? I don't think so. I think yesterday the wicker was slightly different. I think it obviously had a little bit more moisture, it had a bit more kick to it. And you could just see when that heavy roller went on this morning. It almost just changed color. Every single roll that was going across it changed color. And as I said before, it looked pretty flat when there wasn't any swing on it, but it does have good carry. So when the ball does get a bit of swing on it, which we only managed to get when we had that second-changer ball, then it really does bring the ball as in. But look, we threw everything at West Indies today, and some teams in international cricket, they have the answers, and I thought the two guys played really well for them today. Inevitably on days where it is harder to get the wickets, when Jimmy Addison is sitting there, you're one going to be looking at him to offer that advice, and two, thinking, goodness me, what a player he would be to have out there in the middle. Yeah, I think at times when the wicker wasn't doing anything, he was pretty happy sitting in the dressing room, to be honest with you. And look, he's been great to have around his thought processes, his tactics, his technical brain. Obviously he's passing that on to the rest of the boys. So we've got some exciting young ballers coming through. I think Gus Agnes and the way he's started his career, there's some great stuff there. But we could have easily walked off this pitch tonight and already a balled West Indies out, but we haven't, and we've got a new ball in the morning. Just finally, it felt like a bit of a throwback. There I said, it was a sort of gritty game, gritty day. The innings played were rather reminiscent of some of the ones that you might have played for England as well. It was a sort of battle out there, it felt. Yeah, look, I mean, a holder at the back end there was just griting it out, so there was some exceptional ball in there. You've got to say it's some pierce with a bit of swing. We found a way to get through it, and sometimes you need a little bit of look in test crickets. Hopefully tomorrow we managed to find the edge a couple of times and managed to take these last few rickets. Thank you so much. There we go, Paul Collingward talking to Henning Moran. I must say, I mean, he's coming to that Mark Wood absolutely spot on. I mean, I don't think he could ask for a ridiculously wicked day than that. 14 overs, three maidens, no wicked for 51. You look at that in black and white, you think? He didn't bow a rubber. He bow fast, he bow brilliantly. Goodness knows how many times he picked the bat. Yeah, it was a real spectacle, wasn't it? There's something about a fast ball or a test match cricket charging in, and it got the crowd going, and it got that little bit of movement. Yeah, how he's finished today with no wicked is beyond me. I do think throughout the day, I looked at England all day and I thought, you know, are they getting the tactics right? And I thought about two occasions where they went to the short ball theory, and I think they went for it too long. You know, they started to play it really. It was almost as if they thought they were having hard jaw. Athanas was just going to hit one in the air, but they played it brilliantly. As Alistair said, I think it's the best pair of batters that I've seen play the short, because England have done it for a few years now. I think they played with great control. They ducked and weaved at the right time, but then they had that little punch. Every time they got one, just around chest high, they were banged straight to the boundary. So it's as well as I've seen a pair play that theory, but England kept with it for a long period of time. It's hard not to though, isn't it? If you want to commit to that, it's a bit like when you put all the feel back for a bat or when you've got a number of eleven in the other end, it's quite a difficult thing to say, actually, it hasn't worked. We're going to bring everyone back in again. Yeah, but I think, you know, if you get a pair that plays it really well, you've got to try and think a little bit quicker, you know, and then bring more dismissals into the game, because you bowl the short ball. You're looking to get about one way, which is caught. You know, Alistair just felt there was periods today where England could have gone, you know, just off-stump, straighter fields, not so many slips, just try and get them driving. Maybe go wide of off-stump, full of length, pack the off-side. So there are a few other tactics that I think they can go to, other than always just going for the short ball theory. And also, you know, you've been a baller, and you'll tell me more than I can tell anyone, but Mark Wood goes back to him running in bowling bounces on that kind of surface. Hard. It is very, very difficult. Twenty-eight degrees. No surprise that Woody's got a bit of cramp. No, well, let's hope that that all it is. And from you, Fazir, well, hey, sixty-five runs, batting depth in there, haven't you? I mean, there's enough there to take a lead. Yeah, and it'll be a huge psychological thing for the Westerners, whether they translate it into something more meaningful. By the four thinning of this test match, we'll just have to wait and see. But as I said, from all that has gone on, in the few days of this short series, the two days and a bit at loads, and the day yesterday with the drop catches, and the fumbles in the field, they could have come out today and just kept with that, with that negative vein, but they showed quite a bit of character, and it's really up to them now to carry that into D3. Okay, thanks to Fazir, Michael and Alistair. Now, before play on the first day here at Trent Bridge, there were some lovely scenes, as Stuart Broad officially opened the new Stuart Broad End. I spoke to him before play, and Stuart began by talking about the change from professional cricketer to working in the media for test matches. Yeah, you've had a good life for these, so the last forty-five years, or whatever you've been doing it for. Yeah, it's good fun. You still get that excitement, don't you? That morning of a test match you get here. I've still got that same buzz in my stomach, as I would if I was going to be balling the first ball. It's wonderful to be out here watching the toss from so close, and there's still that same confusion in whether you battle ball here first, isn't there, which has been here for years. You always hung around at a toss anyway, didn't you? That was kind of your thing. I watched every single one, yeah. My theory was that I used to, as a kid, used to tune in and want to know what's happened at the toss, so you don't get to watch it that close live very often, so when you're playing, why wouldn't you take the opportunity to watch it and got you out of warm up? That's the cunning bit. Now, come on, it's a lovely thing here that they've given you at Trent Bridge. Jimmy's got his end-old trafford, and here you are. I mean, it's going to look better than that in a couple of years, isn't it? I mean, they're going to actually knock the pavilion down and rebuild it, but that is as of now. The Stuart Broad End. How do you feel about that? Yeah, really special. I think, yeah, there's some amazing plans to keep the history of the pavilion, but also sort of smarten it up and bring it up to a date with the rest of the ground. It's such a beautiful place. And for me, you know, I don't necessarily see it as the Stuart Broad End. It's very much for my family. Ultimately, I was probably stood in this exact spot as a three-year-old following my dad when he was playing for Nazis, go to the old scoreboard, put a dust bin and play cricket while they were out here. And any lunchtime tea break, I'd be legging it onto this outfield to play with the other kids and bat and bowl. So I felt like I sort of learnt my trade here, really, you know, as a small kid. Certainly my enthusiasm and inspiration for the game was born here at Trent Bridge. So, you know, for me to think about bringing my young daughter Annabella here in years to come and we'll be able to sit in the pavilion and sort of explain that he used to bowl here a little bit. And, you know, I think that's really special. And, you know, my mum's here today. My dad's here, sister, Gemma. So Molly's on the radio with the BBC, unfortunately. But she's already sent me a lot of messages, hoping it goes well. But, you know, it's a really, really special thing. Mick Newell and Lisa, who's Chief Executive here, called me in October, November saying, like, asking if I would like it, the committee had suggested it. And, obviously, that was a very special phone call. And, yeah, the days arrived for the unveiling. Unvailing of what? Is there something I'm just looking at what there is? So under the bell, where it says NCC, the left, there's a plaque. But this is as close as I've been to it. So I actually don't know. I'm about to ring in the five-minute bell today, and I will unveil the plaque. So I have no idea what it says. Hopefully, this felt the name, right? I'd like having pictures. Yeah, it has to do with the hundred cap, the silver cap. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, you know, for me, the history of Trent Bridge, the cricket that's been played in a mountain I've played here, is one of my favourite grounds in the world. So to be recognised in that way is incredible. Got to mention 8-15. Happened at this end. I mean, that alone is enough to have an end-name after you. I reckon, is that still? I know you asked Jimmy this question last week. It's sort of the stand-out memory. 8-15 on that first day. Yeah, I think so, and probably made even better by the fact that Joe Roo got 100 in the same day. So we bold Australia out for 60 before lunch, and never forget having a cup of tea on the balcony when Alistair Cook drove Mitchell's start through the covers, and we'd already bold them out before lunch. It was just the most surreal feeling. And then for Joe, you know, if we'd have then got bold out for 80, it would have taken the tarnish off. It would have tarnished it slightly, but for Joe Rooch to then go and get a fantastic 100 for us to win and regain the ashes here for the first ever time to be part of that. You know what it's like when you play cricket and you've got friends in the crowd and family, and it just, you have half an eye on them if they're enjoying the day, if they're enjoying it. You know, it's just so special to have them here, and for them to be here for that was incredible. So thoroughly deserved honour. Let's do it. Well done. Go and enjoy your day, and thanks for talking to us. Thank you. So thanks to Stuart for speaking to us from the Stuart Broad End. That's it for this episode of the TMS podcast. Make sure you're subscribed on BBC Sounds. You don't miss a thing from this test series between England and the West Indies. 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