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Dr. Leigh Erin Connealy’s Virus, Cancer, Parasite and Immune System Protocols | Nathan Crane Podcast
Pharmaceuticals now are really the number one cause of death. And so, you know, we have to look at how do we really, really get people's systems in order and get them in homeostasis. And it was interesting, I had a patient last week and the mother was really, really going to almost die. The doctor's like, "Your mom's going to die." Well, they took her off her 10 medications, and what happened? She came to life, and that was actually written in British Medical Journal. Is if you get an older people, a person coming in through the ER, look at their medication list and take them on off most of everything. And the patient will most likely do better. He's a best-selling author, award-winning filmmaker, inspirational speaker, certified nutrition coach, plant-powered athlete, and host of the number one holistic health podcast in the world, Maith and Crane. Hey, welcome back to the podcast. Before we get started, I want to give you a free gift that I have spent over a decade researching thousands of hours of peer reviewed studies and interviewing hundreds of world-leading functional medical doctors and cancer conquerors that lays out a blueprint for helping your mind and body become a cancer-fighting fortress for natural cancer prevention and healing. And that's my Amazon number one best-selling book, Becoming Cancer Free. The physical copy sells for like 10 bucks on Amazon, which, you know, you can go get that if you want, but I'm happy to give you the ebook absolutely free. Just head over to BecomingCancerFree.com, and you can download that ebook instantly. Again, that's BecomingCancerFree.com, and it's yours as a gift for me, to you, for tuning into this podcast. All right, let's get to the show. Welcome back to the podcast. Today, I have my good friend, Dr. Lee, Aaron, can you leave here with us? Dr. Can you leave is the founder of the Cancer Center for Healing, the Center for New Medicine, both of which in urban California, she's the author of a couple of great books, perfectly healthy, as well as her newer book, the Cancer Revolution. And Dr. Can you leave has been treating patients with all kinds of chronic diseases specializing in cancer, as well, for decades now, what going on like 40 years now? How long you've been doing it? 38 years now. Oh, yeah, almost 40 years. Well, I bet you've seen some things. I have seen a lot. I want to talk to you about what you've seen lately, like, what are you still seeing, COVID stuff? Are you still seeing any of that? I just got back from a humanitarian trip in Africa, as you know, we were delivering seeds and tools and helping the tribes who are literally starving to death in Northern Kenya, helping them get food planted into the ground, trying to help them become sustainable there with food. And, man, I wasn't sleeping, you know, traveling. The flights were crazy. There was, like, three days where, like, I literally got to sleep, like, seven hours over that 60-hour period or something. It was nuts. A similar thing. Anyway, I got back, started a parasite cleanse, and after about three or four days, I got hit with this massive, like, sore throat and then body fatigue and pain, and then, like, it was trying to, it's been trying to make its way to my lungs. Every day I could tell. I've just been hitting it with everything in my natural protocol and, like, keeping it out of the lungs, but it's still in my head a little bit. You can probably hear it a little bit, but it was, like, throat, kept trying to get my lungs. Thankfully, it mostly stayed out, been up in my head, and then at night, just, like, some coughing and stuff, as it's, like, I can feel it, like, trying to take a hold on my lungs. I don't know if this is that lab-created, crazy, you know, whatever strain of cove this or that, or what it is, but it's been, today is, like, day seven. It's on its way out. It's still, like, gripping on trying to hold on, you know. I'm feeling much, much better, though, but have you seen, are you still seeing a lot of that, or what are you seeing nowadays? I don't see, fortunately, we don't think that much, COVID. The patients are so trained and educated what to do if they get, if they feel like it's a COVID, or they feel like it's, you know, and, you know, there's no such thing as flu anymore. Right, it disappeared magically, right? It disappeared, right? So, the patients are all very schooled what to do these days, at least our patients are, and so they know exactly what to do and to nip it in the butt. So, because, you know, we taught them what to do back in March of 2020. Right, and we did an interview about that with you, like, all your protocols. That was probably two or three years ago now. So, maybe you could touch on those real quick. If someone's feeling something coming on, what do you normally have people do? Well, first of all, the most important thing that everyone needs to do, no matter what, is to take vitamin C. And today, people need higher doses of vitamin C. We're the only mammals that don't make our own vitamin C. All other mammals do accept humans. And because we're under such extreme stress, not just stress from life, but stress with the EMFs and with toxicity and heavy metals and, you know, all the things that we're under attack every day. And so you've got to take a lot of vitamin C. So, for me, if you're going to do liposomal, like something like liposomal. So I would do a teaspoon twice a day. If you're going to do something like vitality C, which is very high dose and it has a right of both sugar to make sure it is absorbed. So that's 4,000 milligrams twice a day. Now there's a natural versions camo camo. You would take that twice a day. So I would tell people that's what you need to do for prevention. Our number one product that I've sold for probably 20 years is vitamin C. I know the half life of vitamin C is only like a couple hours, right? So like what I usually do is I'm trying to take about 500 milligrams up to 1000 milligrams. So like half a gram to a gram of vitamin C, about every two hours during the day. So I'm actually not getting that 8 grams that you're recommending through a liposomal, probably less than that, but close to it. But that's, yeah, that's number one thing for sure. So I'm going to start, you know, dosing up on vitamin C. I mean, there's a lot of other benefits to it as well. But exactly. Now you're saying you're saying 4000 milligrams or four grams of liposomal twice a day as preventative. Now the liposomal is 1000. So 1000 milligrams twice a day, twice a day as a preventative is what you're saying. Right. Yeah. Now you're young. I will tell people just take it once a day, you know. And, but if people are fighting things, I put it on it twice a day. Got you. I mean, it's also, there's a lot of studies on vitamin C. I can't say it. Hills cancer, fights cancer, whatever, but there's a lot of studies on vitamin C and cancer out there, by the way, for those who want to go and look them up. Right. We give those to our patients, because there's a lot of obviously people saying, Oh, no, that isn't even work. Well, we know vitamin C, since line is polling. We did all the initial, you know, research and studies, and then there's been so many studies since then. So the second thing we've been using for a very long time is Ibermectin. So we've been you Ibermectin is a very old drug. It has many, many different properties, but for a virus, it can be very beneficial. So all of our patients know to do that. So they would do, we usually use 12 milligrams, one twice a day. And I have it. So, so 12 milligrams, one, so 12, one capsule, twice a day. So six, six milligrams or 12. 12 milligrams. One pill twice a day. Okay. So 24 milligrams for that for that for day for how long for how many days. Well, probably seven days. Okay. So 12 milligrams twice a day for maybe seven days. Got you. Yeah, I just worked for cancer patients. We use it a lot because it's one of three purpose drugs. So they'll be that on that indefinitely. So YouTube disclaimer here, fact checkers. We're not telling anybody to go and do this. Okay. Dr. Keneley, a medical doctor who's treating her patients is sharing with us how she is using these treatments for her own patients. All right. So just putting that out there. I'm trying to get this video from getting censored as many of our videos do when we talk about these things. But hopefully this one won't. You know, with the cold and flu season here, it's critically important that we enhance and strengthen our immune systems. Yes. Would you agree? 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That's d-r-p-a-w-l-u-k.com/introtocancer. And then, that's great. When I got back from Africa, I also took Ivermectin because of just parasite control. And so I did a dose, you know, when it's used as parasites and it's very well studied for parasites as well. And it's a one day dose, though, basically, it was the recommendation. I can't remember. I think it was four, three milligrams pills, three, six, I think it was 12 milligrams for one day, basically, is what it was. Well, for parasites, because I've been treating parasites for a very long time. And when I first started learning about parasites, I trained under a doctor who's the only doctor who at the American Academy of Gastroenterology who talks about parasites. Most doctors don't really think about that when they're working on the patient. But what I have found over the last 30 years is that parasites are a definite entity that needs to be evaluated in a patient. And I find that most people have parasites. So we first started doing testing. I used a stool testing, but let's say a parasite is in the liver or in the pancreas or in the brain, you're not going to pick it up in the stool test. So you must have other testing. So we use the method of electro acupuncture, according to vol, because we know that every bug, everything has an energy signature. So when we do our work up of electro acupuncture according to vol, we can pick up the parasites. We also do something called the F scan. The F scan is a device from Switzerland that you put the, you put a finger. I mean a monitor on the finger and we see what energy frequency signatures come up. And then we use photonic light to kill the parasites. But the key thing about parasites and why one day isn't really enough is that if you don't get every aspect of the life cycle of a parasite, they may not eradicate them. So usually I have patients start two days before the full moon. They go through the full moon and they do that for four months. We also have patients do garlic enemas, because garlic is amazing for many different things, but especially for eradication of parasites. Yeah, I'm also doing so I did divermectin and then it was only like a day's prescription dose worth. And so on top of that I'm doing an herbal, an herbal parasite cleanse, and then I'm also doing chlorine dioxide every day. Oh, that's awesome. Well, you know about chlorine dioxide. Oh, gosh, yeah, I've been using chlorine dioxide for like, I don't know, 20 plus. Wow, long time. It's amazing. It's amazing stuff. What I've been learning about it. It's it's great. We got to care for what we say about that as well. But, I mean, there are so many testimonials and case studies on it. It's incredible. Right. So I, I encourage people, you know, Jim Humble was the first guy, you know, who utilized it for water share sterilization when he went to Central America. I saw a video, Jono just shared with me a video that was sent him from someone who knows him. He just got out of jail. He just got out of prison or jail or whatever, you know, they locked him up for selling it. And he was in prison. Oh, wow. Yeah. For selling for selling chlorine dioxide, for selling it as a supplement, you know, as a treatment. Oh, wow. Wow. That's terrible. Yeah, he wasn't, but he was in, but he's, he's, Jono forwarded me a video of him getting out and someone and I saw him and it was on a cell phone and it's so looks like he just got out. But yeah, he was sentenced to a 51 month. This is according to ABC News. Who's sentenced to a 51 month in prison. I think he got out early. Right. They call it potentially toxic miracle cure touted by French church. You know, he set up a church to protect him. But I mean, there are thousands of people who've wrote in testimonials about using right MMS miracle, the miracle, miracle mineral solutions when they called it now. What Andreas Calcra uses is slightly different, right? Use this hydrochloric acid instead of citric acid and, you know, what he's seen with people is especially with cancer, all kinds of things is incredible. Obviously, we're not recommending people go and use this, but just sharing information about it. But yeah, they locked him up for selling it because he was, you know, you could talk about it all you want, and people can use it on their own. I'm using it on my own right now. You can just buy the sodium chloride and the hydrochloric acid and mix it yourself super easy, super simple, you know, some of the lowest toxicity in the world. But you can't sell it like as a treatment or as a supplement. That's how they locked him up. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I just told people to read the book Forbidden Tears by Andreas and let them, they can research it all on their own. Yes. So you've been using it for 20 years. Well, that's awesome. So have you seen pretty remarkable things from it? Well, yeah, because it's one of those substances that can be very helpful as an antimicrobial. Also for an oxygenator. So, the very helpful tools for patients, you know, when you have a very sick patient, we have to have as many magic bullets as possible. And so, and I always encourage all the patients, no matter what I do and what I tell them, go and research and study anything and everything. Don't just take my word for it, go and do your own research and study it. You know, you can't change your condition unless you understand your condition. And so, you know, education is very powerful for everyone because today, you know, a hundred years ago, all doctors were natural pets. And so, if you look at, you know, before the advent of penicillin, you know, there were doctors all did things in their office naturally with their mortar and pestle and potions and herbs and all kind of things. So, we have to integrate the combination of therapies, you know, sometimes we need medicines, right? Just like you used Ivermectin with there's sometimes there's medications are necessary for patients. If patients came in here with Marissa methicillin resistant step Arias, I wouldn't use something natural. I'm like, no, we have to use a drug. And then we got to figure out why you have this problem because you shouldn't be having this problem. And so, so, but I try to develop at what I call a natural allopathic protocol. You know, I work patients up just like I would a regular medical doctor by getting their history. The only difference with me is I go back from the time you were born. Because a lot happens in your life. And so, we need to know everything that happened, for example, I had a patient with sarcoma 27 years old. And so I'm going back her last 27 years, which isn't that long, but she had had Marissa 10 times. She had this life threatening bacteria. And first of all, someone should have said, why does this young person? I've never had Marissa in my whole life and I'm a lot over that. And I don't know, you probably have never had it. But if you're having such a deadly infection, why is this happening? After one time, the doctor should be asking that. And so, anyway, bottom line is when people take antibiotics, what do they grow? Fungus. And fungus and cancer go hand in hand, right? So you're creating this, you know, this terrain for cancer to possibly grow. So that's why everyone needs to understand if they take a medication, what are the ramifications? What are the side effects? What does it do to my body? What, what nutritional, what do I have to do to counter manage if I were to take a medication? Because, like I said, I do use medications. And so we just have to know and protect our patient every step of the way. So going back to kind of protocol for people who are feeling something coming on, you're doing vitamin C, if someone's already feeling sick, you might put them on Ivermectin. Right. What else are you doing with people? The other thing I like to use that I've used for years is liquid silver. So I use Argentine silver or I have another brand of silver. So I usually will have a patient do a tablespoon three times a day. Then a lot of times I use NAC in acetyl cysteine because it has great properties, especially if you're having long issues. It's a great nucletic. So it breaks up the mucus. Plus, it's an amazing support for glutathione production, which we know is beneficial if somebody were to have a covert type experience. Okay. And so that's and then vitamin D. How much how much NAC are you usually using? Oh, gosh, what is our pill? I don't know. Gosh, I just put them on one twice today. I'm not sure what the dose is, but I put them on that. And that's part of our also our liver protection too. So NAC is very, very good to use for, like I said, many different things. And then vitamin D, everyone needs to be vitamin D, get sunshine. Get outside, make sure they're getting plenty of sleep, make sure they're eating is good sugar is counterproductive to your immune system. So, the, you know, the eating part is, I think, just really being mindful and conscious of their eating. And like I said, getting sunshine, sunshine is a very potent, you know, amino stimulator, plus giving you vital energy. That's why we have the sun. What do you think about seawater? I love seawater. So I use a lot of ketone water, ketone has been around for, well, it came to the US because it was, you know, originated from Dr. Renee King tone in France. And so how do you spell that keen tone keen tone cue you I n to n. So, Dr. Renee King tone develop this water. And it's in the board tech, it's in a special board tech so it has high energy. So your blood is mace basically seawater right with red blood cells. Okay, so that's why you look at your sodium your potassium and chloride in patients because that has to be perfect and ideal. And so this seawater is the same constitution as plasma. So I use it orally. I've injected it and I've done it intravenous so like my patients who do not want to get a blood transfusion. This is what I'll do. I'll do a hundred and fifty C seeds intravenously of keen tone water. It's amazing substance. It's over 200 years old. If you want to read your minerals, there is nothing better than king tone vials. Now they do. It's in glass be these beautiful glass vials. They also have it now in little packets. I personally don't like it as much. So I started, I think keen tone water came here about 19 years, 18, 19 years ago. And I've been using that ever since on in all different ways. So it's a beautiful, beautiful now. There's other companies that make like sea minerals and but I love the key tone. I haven't seen anything work quite as good. And if you look in the keen tone studies, how they use it for pregnancy, they use it for respiratory. So I have patients, if they have a respiratory infection, I'll have them get a little nebulizer, put it in the little repository and put the keen tone water in there and have them nebulizing in their box. So for any kind of lung infection or COPD emphysema. So it's amazing to replenish and and help the tissues be healthy. My patients swear why they like, Oh my God, I'm breathing so much better and so much better capacity since I had since I've been using the keen tone water. So, so it's amazing substance. One of my good friends and integrative cancer doctors, Michael Karlfeld owns the Karlfeld Center in Meridian, Idaho. And I'm really grateful that their team has sponsored this episode. Dr. Karlfeld is a globally renowned naturopathic doctor in integrative oncology and his center pioneers cutting edge alternative therapies to combat cancer. 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And he explains it that it's basically making a form of chlorine dioxide where it's the movement of the waves mixing with the sodium particles that are literally creating a natural disinfectant, which is why people can drink it. If it's not polluted from a nearby manufacturing plant dumping pollutions into it or chemicals coming into an estuary or something from the river going into it. We're just talking about natural seawater, people can drink it and not, you know, small amounts of it. You're not going to drink a lot, right? You'll probably throw up. But diluted in water and, you know, not only not getting sick from it, but actually become healthier because of it. I thought it was really fascinating. Right. Well, think about your, you're talking about something that the ocean is like you are, you are the ocean. Your, your whole body is the ocean. That's how your circulation work. Think about it. It has its natural energy force and waves just like the ocean. Okay. And so then it has the energy of all the plant life, the animal life, the minerals. I mean, it is magical what, you know, see what are the only thing is now we're polluting it. If you know what I'm saying with, you know, nano plastics and, and things. So, you know, I've never taken like, I, I mean, I love, you know, living close to the ocean. So, but it'd be interesting to check and like take a sampling, you know, of the seawater and say, Okay, let's see what's in it. Right. So, because now they're saying the fish have a lot of nano plastics in them, because of, right, because of we're polluting it. It's not because that's the way it was made is that we're, you know, we are polluting it with so much nano plastics. That's crazy how much plastic that the average human is actually ingesting per year now from plastic cutting boards, little pieces of nano plastics in your water bottle. I think I saw this was a crazy number. They took a regular, I'll have to look it up. They took a regular measurement, a water bottle, right, a plastic water bottle that you buy at the store that's got water in it. And it was something like, I want to say 180,000 pieces of nano plastics in one bottle. I think that was the amount. I'll look it up right now. Right. Yeah, you can't drink. You can't drink out of a plastic water bottle. Okay. No, you should not be. You cannot. So I tell everyone to eliminate. I've been telling people for about 30 years to eliminate plastic from their life. Okay. Okay. So I want to, I want to fact check myself so it was a quarter quarter million pieces, particles, nano plastics in a single liter of bottle water. Yeah, it's great. Can you imagine how much plastic that is like how much plastic people are eating per year. I saw this image, like between 11,000 to 193,000 micro plastics per year. The largest source is drinking water. So it's getting into the water. Just as you're saying, which is, which is insane. We have to filter that out. How do you filter out nano plastics from your water. All right, you, they say boiling it. Okay, is the best way. But I think that your best bet is a couple of things. One, you've got to do infrared sauna. The best way to get out plastics. There is a lot of people talk about taking natural progesterone to neutralize the estrogenic effect of plastics. So it is a big, big problem. I'm presently looking for a machine I found a machine out of Europe, which will filter your blood. The plastic. Now, one of the things we do in our clinic is we do something called EBO EBO and where we filter the blood. And then we alternate it that helps a lot because your blood actually goes through a filter. And then we ozonated, which we know ozone is so helpful with neutralizing toxicity, bugs, incredible for the immune system, incredible for oxygenated body. So, but I did find a, a filtering machine in for patients in Europe. So now I'm just trying to figure out how to get it here. So because this is a real, you're right. This is a huge huge problem because they found them in the placenta. They're, you know, they're finding it in babies, you know, they're finding it's in everything. And so like your body cannot work very well. Now, one of the other things that I use supplement wise to enhance. Xeno estrogen detox detoxification is calcium to the right. So what we do is we do an environmental pollutant panel on every patient. Looking at the load of, of xeno estrogens, phthalates, you know, all in every single patient. So we get a quantitative analysis, and then we'll repeat that after we do the purification of patients, which, as we know takes a while, you know, you don't get purified in a day or a month. You know, I tell people by the time you start with your health, you know, it takes about a year to kind of really get your body in order, you know, especially if you have a diagnosis now if you're healthy. You know, unhealthy, what does healthy mean as far as I'm concerned, it's not just getting your routine testing, because blood tests don't tell you, they just tell you what's going on that minute. They don't tell you what's going on, you know, over months and months and months of bioaccumulation of toxicity. So you have to actually do the studies to figure it out. And I do a lot of bio energetic testing so I can figure it out very fast and economically. So patients can, you know, have an action plan and, you know, spend their money on their self care, because, you know, self care is the new health care. And so, because the doctors today all they know how to do is sick care. And so, all they know how to do is okay you have high blood pressure Nathan here's your drug and I'll see you in a month see how you're doing on your blood pressure. Nathan, how do you live, how does your sleep, how much water are you drinking, you know, what is your eating, what is your activity, what is your stress, going over your 24 hour lifestyle because we know that what you eat in your lifestyle is, is, is really dictate your disease process or lack thereof. But unfortunately, we're in a sick care system and there's protocols and conventional medicine that they follow. All right, they just follow whether you go to the hospital or whether you're where a doctor who is going to treat you with a drug or surgery or both. Never how to fix the patient and restore health in the patient. So, we've got now I know doctors are, are changing because I just got a someone just a doctor. This year I was in the last year and a half so many conventional doctors have contacted me to say, Oh, you know, can you help me with this. I, I, and I, and I'll always ask them so like what happened to you that you now are interested in integrating you've been a conventional doctor for 25, 35 years and then all of a sudden they go, well, COVID and how we treated COVID is what awakened me. And so, or like the guy I just did a little thing on for him. He was a conventional doctor 200 scientific publications USC UCLA pedigree to the end degree, and he just wrote a book that lies. He was taught in medical school and how the medical system will kill you so here because he had four chronic diseases. And then he fixed them with lifestyle modification. All right. So in his book every chapter is the fatty liver live the blood pressure live the autoimmune life, you know, all the things that we know so it is, it is being talked about and then there's people like you who are trying to, you know, bring journalistic, you know, aspects to the way, you know, a patient should be cared for and how medicine should be delivered. And so we have to all work together to be, you know, educating and empowering people how to live a new life because, you know, the way I look at it is we're going through a major devolution of humanity. We got to start with our children, you know, from the day they're born. And, you know, teach them the right ways I was looking at the obesity rates for young children here in the US is like 43%. And in Japan, it's 4% because they start their children early on, right, properly how to eat, and you should see what they have. If you go to Tokyo, for example, which is the largest city in the world, you will see what's available. They sell sweet potatoes on the street. That's your snack. The Japanese diet is like primarily unprocessed, unrefined real whole foods, right? They eat fish and see food and things like that. And they eat a lot of fruits, a lot of vegetables, a lot of real fresh food, even like most restaurants and fast food restaurants, unless it's like a McDonald's or something. Right? It's like you're getting fresh real food. That's what most people are eating most of the time. And so, yeah, to see a, you know, 1,000% difference in obesity between there and the US and less cancer rates, less diabetes, less heart disease and everything, right? And highest longevity. And they're riding their bikes most places or walking, right, and moving their bodies. Like, you don't see a lot of obese people in Japan. No, no. I mean, it's there and it's the Western diet lifestyle that is forcing itself upon them, but majority of the people are not following that. I mean, younger people are getting sucked into it more and more, especially as I talk to friends who grew up in Japan and they've told me like more and more young people are getting kind of sucked into these problems. They're sucked into these processed foods and high sugar, you know, fast food restaurants and stuff. Hopefully, the culture still remains and the people don't end up like here in the US were, you know, just so addicted to these high processed foods, these ultra processed foods and these high sugar foods. Hopefully, the culture remains intact, but, you know, these giant corporations are doing everything they can to disrupt that and shove their toxic cancer-causing foods down people's throats. It's sad and it's inspiring to see a place like Japan that's still doing so well. Right. Well, Japan has like such an extreme high standard for everything and like even medicine, like the products from Japan have rigorous, rigorous standards and testing. And I was at a conference years ago and it was a conference for, you know, international doctors. And I was talking to the Japanese representatives of that from their country about cancer. And like it is mandatory that you do natural things for the patient. So, like every patient wants natural things, whether it's the hyperthermia, whether it's IV vitamin C, whatever, it's that is the way you go. And so, so we, you know, can learn a lot because they have the highest longevity and their health, they're much healthier. And it's interesting because I've been listening to lectures from some of these doctors and they are so, they're really, really analyzing everything and really saying, you know, we have to change, you know, we can't allow. Things to disrupt our culture and society, which is, which I find very, very commendable. So, because, you know, we live in this 8 billion world, you know, us is only 5% of the total population. Right. And when I get patients from foreign countries, and they tell me that all the countries want to be like the US and I'm like, well, the US is not, we rank 43rd in the world and health care. And our babies are sick. So, autism is at all time high. It's, you know, if you look at different statistics, it's 1 in 30, 1 in 35. I mean, everybody has a different statistic. And then 60% of our elementary kids have one or more chronic illnesses. And then our teenagers have the highest rate of anxiety, depression and suicide. And then 30 year olds are here with cancer. So, why is it that you and I are the only ones talking about this when it's obvious everywhere. Okay. And yes, there are other people that are colleagues of mine who are trying to bring light to all of this, but it is obvious why isn't there a doctor outrage in a public outrage Nathan about what is going on with the health of our nation. Because if we don't have our health, you and I both know, we have nothing. You know, I know my very, I've heard many, many wealthy patients tell me, I'd give all my money to have my health back. And so, but not just, and it's not just health back. What is health? Health is vitality. You know, it's feeling great every day. It's feeling fantastic and that you can help yourself and help another person, right? Quality of life. I mean, it's, we've gotten to this place today where people are just expected to feel sick, to have low energy, to have chronic fatigue, to be in pain. You know, and it's just like, oh, it's just aging. It's part of life. And no, that's not just aging. That's not part of life. When we're healthy, when we're vital, when we're functioning, yeah, we might have a little thing here or there, little pain here or there, whatever. But it's not, even though we've normalized sickness as part of our life, you know, at 30, 40, 50, 60 year olds. I mean, it's crazy how many young 20 and 30 year old athletes I'm meeting who are just, their health is so dysfunctional, right? Their gut health is just so messed up. You know, their energy is out of whack, right? They're experiencing fatigue, depression at higher rates than ever before. Like, that is not normal, people that should not be normalized. You know, even when you're 50 and 60, like you and I know, we know many people, 50, 60, 70, 80, who are vital, healthy, you know, very low pain, lots of energy, living their life's purpose, you know, feeling great, exercising, living a good quality of life, you know, even into their 90s. Like, that is what's possible for everybody, when we get our diet and lifestyle in alignment, when we're living a good quality of life, we have a good spiritual connection. We're practicing stress reduction techniques every day in meditation and qigong and prayer, whatever your spiritual, mental, emotional, you know, health practices are, eating real whole foods, real natural foods, exercising, using sauna, removing the toxins from our diet and lifestyle. And that's the potential for all of us, if we live that long, right? Anyone of us could die today and get hit by a bus or whatever, we don't know. But we shouldn't wait for that either, you know, and we shouldn't expect that. We shouldn't, you know, wait and see what's going to happen because then they see you and they see me and they see us who are, you know, they come and say, "Oh, I have Stage 3 Stage 4 Cancer, what do I do?" Yeah, there's stuff we can do, but there's no guarantee and it's way tougher now than if we caught this as Stage 1 or prevented it in the first place, which I know how passionate you are about prevention. The problem is, like so many people, younger people, let's say 30, 40, even 50, are not always thinking about prevention, right? They're just like waiting or something bad happens. Yeah, well, we're not taught in our society that health is the most important value, Nathan, that's the problem. If you're taught that health and working on your health was critical to your existence, then that's what you would be doing. But we, all everybody wakes up every day thinking, "Oh, my body's going to work for me." Until that nanosecond, they get a diagnosis, right? And then all of a sudden, everything comes 2020, "Oh, my God, what's going on in my life?" And now, you know, I've been diagnosed, like you said, Stage 3 or 4 Cancer, and then they are in fear, which is very damaging to the system and to the body. And then they make decisions based upon fear instead of saying, "Oh, okay, why, where, when did this happen? Why did this happen?" And so, if we just started really creating health, which I'm excited though, Nathan, that things are, I see young people, like they have parties and they have saunas and cold plunges and no alcohol. So it can be done, you know? Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so, and all my young patients now that are 30, 35 years old, all of them are dedicated. A lot of them have cancer, but once they get cancer free, "Oh, my God, they're broadcasting it, you've got to prevent, you've got to, you know, they're all broadcasting it." Yeah, yeah, we're making good progress, right? Like, just 10 years ago, it was such a different, you know, climate and environment, right? I mean, I was doing summits online, we had maybe 30,000 people attending. Yeah, I did some of the very first summits online about cancer ever before. Before it became popular online, I did the first or second one ever done in 2012, 2013. And now, you know, we've got them every other month in docuseries and it's great. You know, we've got 100,000, 120,000 people signing up for these events and learning, all these natural ways to prevent and fight off cancer. Like, we're reaching millions of people now. Like, we're definitely, you know, 10, 15 years ago compared to today, it is definitely making a huge impact because of you, your books, your center, your education, your commitment. The work I and my team and all of our colleagues have been doing together, you know, it's like, we're seeing a good shift in the right direction. I think you're right, COVID definitely opened a lot of people's eyes to go, "Hmm, maybe what I've been told, you know, by these pharmaceutical companies and by these governing health bodies is not the truth. Maybe I should start going in the opposite direction of what they're telling me to do." You know, my wife and I and many of us figured that out decades ago, right? It's like, you know, I, 17 years ago, I was like, "Hmm, yep, not believing anything that these guys are saying right now. Let me see what the natural health world has to offer." Right, right. But you live it every day as a conventional medical doctor who's really, I would say, a functional medical doctor or holistic, you know, a holistic conventional medical doctor where, like, you have access to conventional medicine, which is great. You have a prescription or a drug or surgery or something can be super helpful and necessary. So you still have access to that and you're still using it, but you're treating your patients for the root causes, parasites, fungus, bacterial infections, viral infections, right? You're treating them with herbs and supplements and diet and lifestyle and sauna and all these cutting edge technologies that you have in your center. Like, that's the future of medicine. Actually, I interviewed you for one of my early documentaries. If you remember, this was probably seven, eight, nine years ago and we post that video on a blog and, you know, many, many people saw it and where you said the, you know, the future doctor will not only just prescribe, you know, medications. The future doctor will be looking at the root causes and focusing on nutrition and supplements and diet and lifestyle and getting to the root cause of cancer and all diseases. And that's what you've been doing, you know, for so many years. And, you know, we just, I think we'll get there eventually. We're, we've come up against so much resistance because we're really, you know, at the end of the day, pharmaceutical companies are getting hurt with their profits, politicians who make money from the pharmaceutical companies are getting hurt with their profits. And they don't want that to happen. And that's not our intention. Like, we don't care. Like, we don't want you to not make money. It's like, we just want to help people get better. That's it. If it hurts your profits, change your business model. Right. Well, it's the same thing at the grocery store. Right. So if you demand organic produce, that's what the grocery store is going to have. Right. If you're going to demand products that are non toxic, no seed oils, etc, then that's, you know, you're, you buy with your pocket book. Right. And so people today are becoming because we're so sick. You don't understand why they're sick. Okay. And it's not just cancer. It's all these chronic diseases from fibromyalgia, like all the things you mentioned. And like you said, just because there's, there's not a drug for everything. Either. For example, is there a drug for fatty liver? No. In fact, most physicians don't even tell the patient that they have fatty liver and they just tell them, oh, just either they tell them nothing, or they may say change your diet. But what does that mean? Right. So there's a lot of medical problems like autism. There's no drug for autism. Correct. Right. So, so there's a, there are, we've, we've come to the point of no return for pharmaceuticals. And now, you know, pharmaceuticals now are really the number one cause of death. And so, you know, we have to look at how do we really, really get people's systems in order and get them in homeostasis. And I was interesting. I had a patient last week. And the mother was really, really going to almost die. The doctor's like, you're going to, you know, your mom is going to die. She's in her 80s. Your mom's going to die. Well, they took her off her 10 medications and what happened. She came to life. And that was actually written in British medical journal is if you get an older people person coming in through the ER, look at their medication list and take them off most of everything. And the patient will most likely do better. So what better example, you know, of medications and what they cause and then doctors don't even really talk about what these medications may be. Or patients may or can do. Okay. Like, like, we look at the ozen pick. Okay. People are looking for something easy quick fast. I tell every patient, I don't have anything easy quick fast. This is going to be a major decision in your life to change your life. 365 days. And you got to work out it. You got to work at your health every day. Like if you don't work out for a week, what happens to your body. Even you young, you see the difference, right? Oh, yeah, big time, big time. Feel it. You think it. Everything is different. If you don't. And I know you work out. Well, you know, if you don't work out for a week, you feel it. And you're young and vital and already living a good lifestyle. Okay. So, you know, so this is something we have to work at on a regular basis. I'm not saying you have to go train for triathalons or run marathons. You, you, I, my new thing. And I just did a little Instagram that every decision is a healthcare decision. Think about it. Every decision you make, right? Because how you live 24 seven, what you're thinking, the choices you make. Everything is a healthcare decision. And so I think now I'm very thankful that more and more people. Besides you and me, because we've been doing this a very long time. Now, everybody slowly, slowly is awakening. They're hearing it. They may not know a lot about it. But it is becoming more accepted. And doctors are now seeing the light. Doctors are very dissatisfied. I just saw on Twitter that like doctors are leaving medicine by drugs because their day is married to an electronic medical record. And they really don't care for patients. They just fill out that medical record. What medicine refill the medicine, maybe order some blood and see you later by. They don't have the time. They don't have the energy. They don't have the wherewithal to properly, you know, take care of the patient. And they're exhausted and depleted from the requirements of what is required in your day to day. And so in the bottom line is patients are not getting the proper care that they need. And it's we have to change it. So, so it's good. I want to ask you, I'm going to share this from CDC and PubMed, because you said something I haven't seen before. And I want to just make sure we don't get, you know, fact checked here negatively. You know, if you look at CDC, which is not the most trust worthy organization, by the way, but if you look at CDC, it's very funny how they classify the third leading cause of death for Americans. They say accidents, unintentional injuries. Now, guess where those accidents and unintentional injuries come from, right? They actually come from medical errors. Medical errors account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the US making medical errors. The third leading cause of death. So look how the CDC classifies that accidents, unintentional injuries, these are actually called medical errors. These are deaths by doctors prescribing drugs or making medical errors, right? Like, if a naturopathic doctor did something or a holistic doctor, me, you know, a certified professional nutrition coach and sort of a holistic cancer coach, did something that actually killed somebody. It was like, oh, I gave them, you know, something like, you'd be in prison. You know, one death and they would lock you up. Doctors are killing a quarter million people a year. And on the CDC calls it accidents. These are unintentional injuries. These are literally medical errors killing people. Number one, you know, and in PubMed, there's lots of information people can go read on how our prescription drugs are killing us. You know, these doctors are are, you know, let's give them, you know, I don't want to say that they're trying to kill people. These are, they are accidents. It's just funny how, you know, CDC doesn't say medical accidents or medical errors. They just say accidents, unintentional injuries. But you said, you said pharmaceuticals are actually the number one cause of death. And CDC says cancer is no one cause of death. Where do you get that? Yeah, I will send it to you when I'm done. I'll text it to you because I was surprised when I saw it. I was like, oh, well, because, you know, they always say it's the third leading cause. Heart disease is number one, cancer is number two, and then the errors and pharmaceuticals are number three. So I'll send it to you when I'm done so you can, you know, utilize that for today. You were saying there's some new information that you found that actually drugs and medical errors together are actually the first leading cause instead of the third. Yeah, I'll send you, cause I sent it to all my doctors about a month ago because I was like, oh, this is kind of interesting, you know. So, but the bottom line is, you know, whether it's one, two or three, Nathan. It's too many. It's too many. It can be number 20, it's still too many. Yeah, it's, it's, we should be cautious and careful as doctors when our job is to give informed consent and understanding of a medication. All right. And so that is not what happens because doctors just don't have the time. And first of all, anybody can look up now today. They can go literally and look up the thousand side effects of every drug. Right. There's a physician's death reference, but it's all online. What the potentiality of it is. So I know that when we give a patient a medication, we watch them very carefully. We look for nutrient depletion. We also look and protect their mitochondria because every drug affects the mitochondria. Which are the powerhouse engines of yourself. And our all drugs cause one or more nutrient deficiency. So if you're taking three medications and, and I use medications. Okay, especially when it comes to cancer. I use a lot of repurposed drugs because there's over 300 drugs that help starve cancer. So when I have a patient, I never rely on just one pathway appealing. It's, you know, obviously addressing their lifestyle, their emotion, the repurposed drugs, maybe low dose chemo, maverick hyperthermia, maybe a web or handle it. I use so many different things. Okay. So because, you know, cancer is always trying to outsmart everything you're doing. Right. So you can't just rely on the surgery chemo and radiation because each of those have their injurious immunosuppressive aspects. And that's another thing is doctors don't protect the patient through all that. Like I give every patient if you're going to do surgery. Here's how you prepare for it before and after. If you do chemo, here's what we do. We know that chemotherapy changes the terrain, increasing the risk of metastasis because you're changing the tumor micro environment, increasing metastatic potential. You're increasing angiogenesis. You are increasing, you know, acidity, you know, virulence of organisms and everything and obviously chemo destroys every single organ. I mean, this is just a known scientific fact. So you've got to do things to protect the patient. Okay, then radiation is also injurious and immunosuppressive. So all these things require a collateral protective universe to endure these, you know, things that patients are enduring every day, right? Exactly. I know you've got to go see patients here in a few minutes before you wrap up. I want to ask you actually a personal thing on my blood test. So I do encourage people, you know, get functional blood work, get blood tests, you know, every so often if it's once a year, twice a year, you know, work with a functional medicine doctor like yourself or, you know, go through. They're great websites in different places. You can get, you know, some really detailed blood work done. Just kind of see where I'm at and I do a lot of experiments too and kind of see the results of those experiments. So I'll do like a 90 day experiment. I did a urine therapy night experiment, you know, did all my blood labs and stuff day one, did it all after day 90. You know, I've got a video coming out on those results, which is kind of interesting. But one thing I've seen common in my, in my blood work is two things. I want to get your feedback on it. One is my, I have low platelets. And then I have high platelet volume, like my platelets are large and my platelet numbers are very low, like out of the, out of the range. What is the number, 125? Yeah, it's down there like 120. I think let me look really quick. So platelets, the recent ones was 123. Okay, so 150 is like 15450 is the normal range. Yeah. And then my MPV. So the volume decides the platelets was 13.4. So just barely out of the range, but that's still out of range. So they're large and my plate's are really low. Do you obviously you can't give me medical advice right now, but does that get, do you have any clues into what I mean, connection, could that be. Yeah, well, you have to think about what could be causing that. Okay, because your bone marrow is what's making platelets right. So you want to like fortify your bone marrow. So I would take some bone marrow peptide, you know, like drink, you know, you can make your own bone marrow or you can take those bone marrow peptides by ancestral nutrition at a New Zealand. The other thing that works amazing is sesame seed pearls from standard process. So sesame seed pearls, you know, probably do two twice a day and then repeat your platelets in three months. The other thing is eating beats, either a drinking beet juice or eating beats raises your platelets. The other thing is papaya leaf. Papaya leafs. Yeah. So, so, so that's plenty for you to start out doing and then you can kind of maybe do an experiment of beach one, you know, since you like to do experiments. But, you know, luckily it's not terribly low, but so, but, you know, you always understand why and then is there something affecting your immune system. So, like, if I didn't make progress, I would tell patients to get their T lymphocyte panel. We do a special blood test called the T lymphocyte and it looks at every single thing and your T is, you know, your whole immune army. And actually, it was funny, I was talking to the director of the lab and I said, well, do you ever see anybody with normal. And he said, no, not really. And I was like, oh, that's not a good thing. Right. My lymphocytes. So I had a whole, you know, panel done on that. So, white blood cells are pretty good 4.1. They're kind of on the low end. So that should be more like six, seven or eight. Yeah, so it's closer like that. Yeah, a little bit lower. My skills were 1829. Same thing, a little bit lower like your lymphocytes. Tell me about your lymphocytes. My lymphocyte count was 1439. So quite a bit high, quite a bit good in the kind of in the middle range there, right? 1439. My monocytes were 426, which was kind of in the middle range, like healthy range. Neutral field percentage was 44. So kind of right in the middle, my, you know, son of field percentage is 8.7. So that was higher than a little bit out of range. So that means your parasite parasite. Yeah. If you're a center, those are high. That's parasites. That's why I kind of had the intuition to do a parasite cleanse. I got back from Africa. I was just like, you know, I think it's time to do a parasite cleanse and so. Yeah. So do a cell for, you know, cell for, you know, that company is very good. Yeah. So do that. Start out with the moderate protocol, right? And then maybe the next month, go to the higher one, do it four months. Do garlic enemas, especially during during the full moon, only during the full moon. And let's see. And then the next time I see you, we can energy check you to see if you need some medicines. But maybe that's why you have the low plate. So yeah, my lymphocyte percentage was 35, which was in the, you know, for a percentage was in the healthy range. But yeah, the, you know, son of fields is out of range, 8.7. So that's. Yeah. So that's very interesting. Yeah. But if you talk to conventional, you know, many conventional medical dollars trained today is like, oh, there's no parasites in the US, right? This was before I went to Africa, by the way, this last blood works. Oh, you had them. So you need to deal with that. Yeah. So my playlist for they have, like, the beginning, I think you can handle the middle and then go to the higher range and do that for four months. Just because you're not here and I can check you and then do the garlic enemas. And let's see if let's see if yes NFS. The rest of my blood work is good. My hormones are good. Like vitamins are good. Like CRP is good. Like most of everything else. It's good. The only thing that's been out is like a couple of the asana fields, some of my, you know, white blood cells like you saw, and then the red blood cell stuff, which has been, that's been kind of ongoing. The last blood work since 2022 that I've done. It's been pretty similar. So you're saying work on bone building healthy. Yeah, you want to go to healthy bone marrow. Your big immune system is your T cells, B cells bone marrow, right? Obviously splain, fire patches, limbs and all that. But your bone marrow, think about it. You know, that is a living tissue. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that's where stem cells come from, right? It's a huge part of our immune system. Yeah, exactly. Cancer cell cancer, killing cells. Awesome. Well, Dr. C always great to chat with you. I know you got to get to patients. Thanks for jumping on the podcast here. Yeah, I'd great to see you, Nathan, and you can send me your blood test. Okay. I will. I'll send you that article for the pharmaceutical also. Thank you. Thank you. And we'll put that link to that article. Actually, and then best place for people to get in touch with you. Go to Kineelium D. 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And that's the thing is when we get to the root cause of these diseases, we can not only prevent these diseases from ever happening, but empower our bodies to heal from them. In every one of our cells, we have tens in hundreds of thousands of chemical reactions that are happening every second that are cycling back and forth and sort of a yin and yang. And, you know, for me, the soul's purpose is evolution. It doesn't care about comfort. It cares about evolution. And so I think so long as we are following our soul, then we will evolve. And I think what sometimes blocks us from living our purpose, from manifesting that next level of our expression, is we have not evolved. There is also a time for letting go all the expectations and relax and just breathe and be grateful for what you have achieved.