Gemara Markings Daf Yomi
Bava Kama 115b
In this case, you have two characters Zebab Akhaviz, so Zebab Akhaviz is traveling, transporting his barrel of wine. Zebab Akhaviz is another character who's traveling with his barrel of Han'i, Nistika Akhaviz Shodvash, so let's say the guy who's got the Han'i in a barrel, the barrel cracks for Shafar, Zebaz, Yainawihitzil, and we'll call him Mr. Goody Tushu's over here, he spills out his wine and saves the Han'i that was dripping out of the broken Han'i barrel into his now empty barrel that used to have the wine in it. Nain Leyla Skara, interesting over here, we say that the fellow who spilled all this wine is not entitled to a compensation for the wines, entitled to whatever the wages would be for the time he put in and for the use of the barrel. However, if there was an agreement beforehand and he said the guy who had the barrel of wine said Vee Mammar to the guy who has the barrel of Han'i, and you'll give me the value of the wine that I'm about to spill out on the other guy who agrees, then the honey owner would have to pay a proper compensation for the wine that had been spilled out, period. Another type of case, Shaf Tach, Shataf Naq al-Kha Virei, there was a river that was sweeping things away, flooding things away, Shataf Naq al-Kha Virei and it was about to sort of like take away Bob's donkey and Carl's donkey, Shiloya Famana Vishal-Kha Virei Masayim. So Bob's donkey was worth $100, but Carl's donkey was worth $200, the Hineach-zah-e-sheloy and Bob let aside or let go his $100 donkey, the Hitzil-e-shel-kha Virei and saved instead the $200 donkey of his friend, Ayloy, he doesn't have the ability to say, "Hey listen, you got to compensate me for my donkey," Ayloya Laskara, he only gets whatever the wages, whatever the typical salary are for somebody who, I guess, saved somebody else's donkey. However, here to V'im Amar-lei, if Bob said to Carl, "Hey listen, Carl, I'm going to go save your donkey, but I'm going to have to let my donkey go and you'll compensate me for that, right?" Then for sure he's entitled to compensation, if he says, "Onniyat-zah-shel-kha, save yours, Vat-zah-nay-shel-kha-e-shel-kha-e-shel-kha, and you give me compensation for mine, which I won't be able to save," Kyve Leats-en-lei, then Carl indeed has to compensate Bob for the entire value of Bob's lost donkey. Ask the Gomorrah Vamay, but one second. So let's say the case where the fellow has the honey barrel, the barrel breaks, the honey's spilling out. Why do we say the one who saves the honey is only entitled to basic wages, Lema-lei, let him say back to the one who had the honey barrel, "Listen, if it wasn't for me, your honey would be all over the ground and totally worthless. And therefore, when I saved it for myself, Mehefkei-re-kazakhina, I got it from Hefger, and therefore it should all be mine." Mi-lei tanya, do we not even have a present for that type of claim in the following brisa, which goes for three lines and two words. It starts here. Harishaya-ton-kha-de-yay-ne-re-kha-de-shemin, you have a person who was transporting barrels of wine, barrels of oil, Rachein-mishnabrais, and he sees, I guess, the barrels were not really made very well, because he sees, I guess, plural barrels, I don't know what them it sees is, but the barrels all seem to be coming apart, loyoy-mar. This person cannot say the following, which someone might think to say, but we're saying he can't say, what would his declaration be that he'd like to say? Arreza-truma-um-icer, I'll pay her a raise for a specific basis, he's got a whole slew of untied produce in his house, and this produce, he's now, since it's basically going to be gone soon, but it's still here now, he says, "Behold, I'm going to make this stuff that I have right here," truma to cover some other Tevel produce, or mister to cover some other Tevel produce in my house, he's not supposed to say that, v-m-mar, and if he does go ahead and says it, loy-mar-clum, he's basically done something totally ineffective, so what do we see from there? Since this stuff is not currently destroyed, but it basically is, you know, watched the clock tick, it's going to go a little bit to be destroyed, he doesn't have any zucchirites in it, and it's basically considered a heftker, so if it's heftker, then in our case, why can't the fellow who's got the only good barrel take the honey and keep all the honey for himself? Well, answers to the gomara, I'm gonna rebear me underline or rebear me, like we'll see, rebear me a little bit later on, on the yamud say, that the case here is that really the honey is not totally going to be lost because, well, rebear me, since it's in another context, because it's where the netting, some sort of net that was used in oil press areas, is sort of wrapped around, in other words, it basically is not going to be a total loss, it prevents the total loss, so hahara me so too here in our case, you know, why he doesn't get the honey, because she could be so good, the misyest is that there's some sort of netting or screen that is around the barrel, semicolon, five word quote from the bracelet we just had two lines ago, I put in the right angles, the ebabar le amar club, and if he did make the declaration of, oh, this is going to be a truma for all that stuff back in my house that I got, that's tevel, le amar club, really, vahatanya, I put a triangle on this vahatanya, it's the first of two today sources we're going to bring is a question on this, seven lines later, first terminal line means vahatanya that also gets a triangle, and each one of these vahatanas is going to bring a approximately three line bracelet, which is going to be a question, okay, so, if he said it, he said what, he got his stuff, let's say wine, and the barrel is breaking, and he wants to quickly declare that that wine should be the truma or micer for the stuff he has back at home, not going to work, really, vahatanya, here's a brice that seems to indicate otherwise, the brice goes for almost three lines and starts here, mishwa baderik of a person who is traveling umaois peyadai, and he's got some cash in hand, now, what does he see coming towards him and from the other direction, the unos connectoi, the only these real tough guy mafia characters, so he's, I don't know, he's shaking him down, but bottom line, loyomar, so this fellow should not be able to, is not able to, he's not allowed, he cannot say to himself, you know, I got back at home some micer shiny peyrois, now we know micer shiny has the ability to have its holiness transferred on to money, so he should not say in a quick thought, um, hare peyrois, she is, she was like basically, micer shiny that I have back at home, michulallama masala, you know what, I'm going to transfer their holiness onto this here money, knowing at the back of his head that he's got that tough guy coming, he's going to meet up with him in, you know, like 15 seconds, you know, he cannot say that, however, and I got underlined these last four words of the brice, the imamar, if he did say it, and made that declaration, dar of kayaman, then what he said is actually fulfilled it, it does work, so why did we say in the previous brice, that if it makes that declaration, it wouldn't work, here we see it does work, well, says the kamara hakamayeskinan, what's the case over here, the case over here is different, bishiyah kalahatsil, it's where he's able to save, in this case, the money, well, one second, if he's able to save the money, ibishiyah kalahatsil, l'hachilah malayyaymah, then why shouldn't he make this declaration, that the mysr-shani kadushu is going to be transferred onto this money in his pocket, why? Well, because he can save it, but it's going to be a big hassle to do it, bishiyah kalahatsil, aayyideh kalahatsil, so wherever the mitzi is, the tough guy coming towards him, maybe he'll have to beat him up, maybe he'll have to fight for it, but he could save it. The next word and line, I believe the bach in os alif prefers to take out of the garrison, we'll pick up with the next line, first one on his vahatanya, another question on, when we had said about 10 lines ago, loyamar clume, if a person made the declaration, loyamar clume. Well, here's another snake source, this one goes for four lines and it seems to indicate otherwise. In this snake source, hirashahayulay, this is a levi, remember the levi, one of the things he's entitled to, every myser that he gets, so he gets 10%, the first 10%, that first tithe that anyone who grows anything gives that to the levi, the levi turns around and gives it 10% of that to the koan, and that's referred to as trumus myser, so imagine if you have a levi, hirashahayulay, he's got esir kaviyos, 10 barrels of tevel tame, so it's tevel that has not had its trumus myser taking, he's basically got his myser re-shoin, but he hasn't separated that which has to be separated from, that's the trumus myser, the 10% he's supposed to give to the koan, vera akhas mihan shinishbera, and he sees that one of the 10 barrels is breaking, I mean of course it's like going to be a complete loss, or shinnis galsi sees that he'd been left to expose and open, so like that concern of a snake venom is there, oymer, and he says the following, and apparently this would work, hirai he trumus myser al-taysha kaviyosaha, so he says regarding this barrel that it should be the trumus myser to cover nine other barrels, and that's his declaration, he apparently can say that and it would be effective, kama ube-shaman, if it's not wine, but rather oil, lo-yasakeini should not do this, mimene have said koan because it causes a loss to the koan, okay, that's the end of the snake's source, bottom line we had said, now about 15 lines ago, the imamra loyama cloma, if he made this declaration, because like as the clock ticks it seems like the stuff's gonna go to a loss, it wouldn't be good in here, we say that he can, yes, make a declaration like that, so amrabirmiyah, yabirmiyah explains that, and here's where the original case was, kashi aikobes habadd karohalecha, it's where the oil press or the wine press net is around the broken barrel, so there's actually not necessarily gonna be a complete loss or even a somewhat complete loss, well, bish, lo-yama we understand we had two cases up above four lines ago that either the barrel broke or the concern of snake venom, so we understand shanish barra that if the barrel broke, kazia, some of it will still be fitting and good, ela nizgalza, if you have a wine that was left exposed and there's a concern that a snake may have come and put some of his venom in, lamai kazia, like what would that be fitting for here, you can't really do anything with that stuff, veki tame it, if you're gonna try to say well, kazia la zealove, it used to be common those days that they would sprinkle wine around the house, it would have a nice smell, a nice strong smell, it would be sort of like an air freshener and make it smell nice, and maybe that's what you could use the wine that has the concern of the snake venom in it for, vahatanya, we have a bracelet that seems to indicate otherwise, this bracelet goes for three and a half lines and starts here, my yimshin is galu, let's say you have water and it was left exposed and in certain times and places you have to be concerned for a snake that might put their poison in it, harreza, lo-yuschaf, kambirishu, start up and don't spill that water out in like the public thoroughfare area where concerned people, a lot of people used to walk those days barefoot and if it gets into one of their open sores it could be problematic or dangerous, maybe, maybe on a physical level, maybe on a spiritual level, maybe both, baloy gabababa han esa tih, don't use that water to mix with mud, to mix with a dirt to make mud or cement and here's even more, I dot underline these five words, the lo-y earbud sma han o sabayis, don't use it to sprinkle around the house to make the house smell nice, so that goes out the window that you can use it to freshen up the house, baloyashkama han esa mamosai, don't use it to give to drink animals, baloy bemos kavere, your animals are your friends' animals and it seems like it's not a danger to the animal per se but more like rashi says we can turn some of my shaft one of those animals than a person might eat it and it could be problematic for the person, that's the end of the fake sores but bottom line you see it's you can't even do zealot with it, so like what are you gonna do with a liquid, in this case probably wine that had been left open and there's a concern there might be snake venom, well look at more answers to avar lobemosanenas, you pass it through a strainer, like a purifier krib nacham, you design you have a bricer of nachamiah, says as follows, the bricer goes for five lines and is talking about is a strainer effective for removing the concern of potential snake venom in liquids, so the tana kama says it's not, but rabnachamiah says it is, here we go, misanenas, if you ran the liquid through a strainer, still you have a concern that that snake poison might still be in the in the liquid, amirab nachamiah, baktsam nachamiah qualifies that and says amasai, when is that is magcha tach tai namegula, that's when the lower utensil that you're straining a liquid through and the new liquid is dripping into is exposed also, ava bismansi tafanimahusa, if you basically make like a seal, so that when it goes through the strainer it goes directly into a clea and there's no exposure to outside elements, then ava bishal yaynamegula, even if the upper one is exposed, where then you have the concern, maybe a snake came along with some venom in, don't worry about it because it's gone through the filter, ain bamishum gilo, you do not have to have a concern of that, lavishia, arishal nachas, the venom of a snake, domulus vogue is very like a sponge, maybe like gel-like, much thicker than the liquid, vitzafal imidmima kaimay, and it kind of like floats in place and it basically won't go through the strainer, that's the end of the snake source and that's our answer is that you're going to be taking the revnachami approach to this to strain the potential snake poison out of the liquid, ask the komara, well one second, lavit marla, wasn't it stated regarding this amarib simon, amarib shub and laivi, lo shanu, that this works, this strainer straining approach, ela shulai tarku, that's only if you didn't like mix up the wine, stir it up, aval tarku, user, if you did mix it up, it would be usher to do that and here, what are you doing when you take a barrel and kind of like flip it over and pour it into another barrel, you're basically going to mix the contents up and it should be a problem, and she's like a mara, no, awesome nami, if you have a barrel and you're going to be straining it, you're not just going to like flip it over the contents and have it all sort of like it mixed up, rather, afshir de manach mediyapuma, you put some sort of filter on the mouth of the barrel, de kavisa, ve chafile, and you slowly pour out the contents of the upper utensil into the lower utensil, period, asks the more now, though, verabne jamia, me tarminon, we said this is going according to shubne jamia, but verabne jamia, the case, let's say, where you had the 10 barrels, as we said, oh that's according to verabne jamia, but that sounds like verabne jamia, you would say you would take tamei stuff to be truma for other tamei stuff, really, veratanya, it seems like, as we'll see in this price, which goes for about four and a half lines, there's a ton of commoners, verabne jamia, the ton of common says, we're not going to focus so much on tamei, but tarminon, tarminon, if you have tamei produce, you can take some of it as truma to cover other tamei produce, or minatara, latara, obviously, tara stuff as truma to cover tahor, other stuff, or minatara, latama, you can even use, if you want to, tahor stuff for tamei stuff, of a lo minatamei latara, what you cannot do is take some tamei produce and have that separated as truma to cover tahor leftover stuff, verabne jamia, we want to focus on, my box verabne jamia, minatamei, minatamei, no, off minatamei, latamei, even to take tamei produce and have it be the truma for other tamei produce, loheitur, litrim, alabashal demi, so, verabne jamia is very clearly, that's the end of the snake's horse, that you don't take tamei al tamei, well, answers to the kamara hakhanami, bishal demi, you know, what's going on over here, the produce that we were talking about up above was demi produce, demi is where it was purchased from a ignorant person, who the assumption is that he, he took the truma ready, didn't take the other, tithes, of course, that's only an assumption, semicolon, mmar, we go back to something we had said about 20 lines ago, we had said at the end of the second triangled brice, here's a quote of it, right angles, ubershermungoyasa came in a hephsid coin, you don't do this with oil because of the hephsid coin, it sounds like the few drops that dripped out, now, why can't you do it though, with oil, why only with wine, maishna, shaman, what's the difference when it comes to oil, deruili lahadlik, you can use it as a, you can't put it on a salad, you can't eat it because it's time, but he can use it as fuel for a fire, well, yai yinami realazilo, the wine you're not, it's tamei might not be able to consume it, but he should be able to use it to spritz around the house, to make the house smell good, britainment, if you want to try to say, well, see luclav milsey, well, that's very nice having a sweet smelling house, but that's not really significant, that's not true, vamr schmomomishomorpchia, schaissenmiloubescella, mesalfa, me luubesstiam, to actually might be more valuable, the statement translated, schosenmiloubescella, for drinking wine, that is, you'll pay for a leader $10, ou mesalfa, and to use that same wine for spritzing around the house, miloubes go pay for a leader, bishtiam $20, so certainly it's something of significance, the fact that it's, that people pay much more for it, it is definitely of significance, well, acha mai esquinan, so the more explains, what's the case over here with the wine, it's actually not wine, it's what you get when you squeeze grapes initially, which is grape juice, bechadash, it's new wine, we call that grape juice, and it's unfermented, new, squeezed grape juices, grape juice, and you can't use that for zealove, well, why don't you just put it away and age it for a little bit, vajara, oili ashnai, it's fitting to be aged, well, the concern is here, though, that since it has the potential snake venom in it, also be able to take that call, yeah, you put away and age it, and then, you know, you won't remember, and someone will consume it or drink it, and they'll have the snake poison in it, well, also, it's the one that has the case, it is shemin, also, if you give it to the kowain, and it's tame nami, ossibéli d'etacalla, won't that also potentially be some sort of mistake that might happen, well, no, because the oil, the monochboclinmo, since the oil is going to be used to fuel a fire, you put it into like a disgusting icky, smelly type of clea, and therefore, no one's going to think to put that on their salad for salad dressing, well, yai yinami monochboclinmo, why don't you do the same thing with the wine, put it into a icky, smelly type of clea, so that nobody will think to use it for serving in a meal, but you'd still spritz it around, and the commercial is one second, take a step back here, you want to use it to make like a nice smell around the house, it ain't going to work if you've been storing it in this icky, smelly, d'etacalla, this idea of worrying about potential problems in the future is actually maklokestanayimhi, tanahi desaanya, you have a brisa, which takes us to the end of the fifth line on kufte-sayana medallif, and with this, we're going to conclude, and here's the brisa. Kowen shaoyai, initial truma shinnit mace, so you have a barrel of wine, it was truma, between, it's already been separated as truma, and then it became tame, okay, now, well, no one's really supposed to drink it except for a kowen, but it's truma now, so kowen, but it's tame also, so he can't really drink it, he can only schwits around the house, so what are you supposed to do with it, maklokestanayimhi, hui bakstanayimim chi shaoyai hakali, he basically says spill it all out together, and then you won't have any concern, whereas base hillal, hui bakstanayimim, well, te asa ziluf, no, you can use it to schwits around the house, kama, ama rabi shmobra biosi, hui underlined, he says ani akhriya, I don't underline akhriya, it's a bit of a loaded term akhriya, literally it means I will settle the issue, or if you have a balance scale and they're equal and you push down a little bit more pressure on one side, and that's the side that is heavier, well, he says like this, kowen, bibai is, if the truma wine became tame, and you're at home, well, te asa ziluf, you know, I don't know, put a sticker on it that says this is to be used for ziluf, you know, have a besoda, if you're out in the field, where there's nothing to do with it until you bring it back into the house, but who knows if you'll even remember, or people might forget, by the time, forget from the field the house might be 15 minutes, it might be two weeks, so besoda te shav echakol, just spill it all out, and there's actually, no, makhlokas says rabi shmobra biosi, ikadam, re alternatively, I squiggle it on the ikadam, re beyashan, if it's aged wine, well, then it's good for ziluf, tasa ziluf, ube, haddashviz, brand new, squeezed, grape juice, te asa zi shav echakol, you have to spill it all out, because it's not really going to be fitting, even potentially, to be used for ziluf for a while, kama. Amrulai, yeah, you're handling the amrulai, this would be the response of the rabana, to rabi shmobra biosi, who tried to, in his words, makhria, to settle the issue between Beyashan and Beyashal, and says, well, that ha'kra is actually a very specific ha'lakhic term, and they say back to rabi shmobra biosi, ikadam, re actually shmobra, you can't have a third opinion that brings in totally new information to be makhria the other two, if it's something that Beyashan Beyashal had mentioned, like being in the field, being in the house, new wine, oh, I'd find, but if neither of them mention anything about that, and rabi shmobra biosi wants to come in and mention that that might be his fetish, but you don't call that a ha'kra, shlushis, that's it in the snake source, adkhan.