This week Pat and Isaac rant about crazy stuff and "celebrate" a holiday.
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214 - MLK Jr 2025 (Special) PART1
(upbeat music) - Hello out there. This week, Pat and Isaac are back again with a very special MLK Jr. episode. There's probably spoilers for something in here, and there is for sure a healthy dose of profanity. So if you stumbled on our podcast and are not into that sort of thing, tap stop before the music ends for everyone else. Thanks for finding us again. Like, subscribe and do the social media stuff so we know you exist. And it's not just the tech overlords pretending we have regular listeners. It's something the music guy wondered about a lot as he improvised this song at the last second. If you're real, we appreciate you. If you're a computer simulation, you don't need validation. You already know you're awesome. Thanks anyway. - So forever ago, I got some counterfeit microphones that looked like the microphones that we used to record with. - Yeah. - I was just waiting for that day where I would just pull it out and drop it. We never got there. - Yeah, like we swapped mics before I could. - Yeah, man. - Oh, really, he just says he's like a phone mike, a bunch of phone mics. - Oh, no, it looks realistic. - Yeah. - I ordered it from Timo or some shit. It's like eight bucks or something. - I almost want to do that just to get it just so I can drop a mic. - The sound quality is like recording on a 10 can through a string. Well, bees are yelling in the background. - Dude, I don't even need them to even be real. I just need to look like actual mics and I'm like, oh, wait, hold on a minute, mic drop. - Of course, I might drop in everything. I'm like, hey, can you bring me that? Sausage over there, mic drop. Oh, hey, I just took a crap. - Yeah, do not go in there, drop second mic. - Go 'cause it's two. Yeah, I get it, I see, I see. - We're back at it. - There you go. See, that was cerebral. - Yep. - See, this is why-- - Call back. - This is why-- - Call forward. - Call forward, yeah. This is why you're genius. That's some genius, that's a genius, that's move. - You know, people I work with, every day I try to do one, call back. (laughing) - Even if it's shit, I do one call back today. - Like, you're playing, remember we're playing regular chess, you're playing fucking 4D chess, man. You're still speaking of podcasts and stuff. So I've been going back last week, watching YouTube of old Colonel Brian, needs a friend. You know, the one podcast I listen to regularly. - Sure, yeah. - Side note, another podcast that you should start listening to is the only black kids in the classroom. - I'll put it on the list. - It's a good one. - It's like another Reddit, but it's about these, it's a married couple, black married couple. And it's not just for black people, just like they say, it's not just for black people. It's called that because when they met, there were the only black kids in their class and that is something they rarely have done through their lives of growing up. He's a therapist, he's a licensed therapist. - Oh, yeah. - And I don't know what she does 'cause she doesn't want us to know, but he's a licensed therapist. They have their read stuff and it's actually quite interesting 'cause their dynamic is really good 'cause it's a married couple and stuff, but they read some stuff. So that's a little web. There's just a thing that people should listen to. The only black kids in the classroom watch it. I say watch it 'cause I keep saying watch it, but they do have a YouTube, but you can also listen to it. But going back, Colonel Bryan, he's a friend, I must let everyone know because that's a small little podcast that I make people know about. (laughing) - Yeah. - Who is this Conan O'Brien? (laughing) All right, I've put marked it. - So there you go. So I go back, so I'm about watching some of the stuff and I'm just like, listening to him, thinking myself, I'm like, how messed up is it that I'm, not only have I already heard these podcasts, but now instead of listening to them, I'm going back and watching the re-listening of the podcast. - You know, there sounds like wrong with that. It's still good content. You're gonna have to remember everything verbatim. - No. - I think there should be like a TV channel where they play the best sports games of all time. Like not everyone is gonna see Jordan against Kobe Bryant, right? - Yeah. - But they got the footage. - Yeah. - Like it's just sitting there, right? - Yeah, it's true. - Why isn't it? - Well, they do have ESPN classics. - They do that. - Oh, okay. - Maybe I'm just coming to the party league. - Yeah. - But it doesn't do like, they don't do every game you wanna see, 'cause maybe you wanna see. - Right, yeah. - First time Michael Jordan played against Bugsy Mugs. I said Bugsy Mugs, Mugsy Bugs. - I don't know, baseball or whatever. So it's. (laughing) - Cute bastard. - He's a baseball player, right? - Yep, that's what people know Michael Jordan for. - Yep, classically that and the Looney Tunes movie. - Yeah, you know, it was weird that they played basketball in there. - Yeah, it's really weird. - Maybe Sling Doobie was trying out. - Yeah, maybe that's why he's like, maybe he's trying out. He's new a bunch of basketball players. - I was uploading the episode last week and it was like a weird spike. Get internationally and I was like, the fuck is going on? Someone downloaded 200 hours worth of our podcast in Singapore. - Awesome. - It's not even from the same IP. Like I think a group of people started watching our podcast. That was like the fuck. - All right, hello. Hey, we're in a national baby. - We need to get a camera on us so they can see us but then just be us too and they're like, hey, wow, the other people come home. But yeah, we need to do this so they can see us never. That would bump a lot of people up. 'Cause like apparently people watch podcasts more than they listen to them. - Really? - Yes. - With like cameras and shit? Like, yeah. - Like they'll work. So as Apple, they'll meet like kids in the classroom, a lot of their stuff. People listen to them, but they listen to them as they're watching them on YouTube doing the episode. - Oh, I'm for sure the other way. - Yeah. - Well, 'cause I mean, I'll just do another stuff too. - Exactly. Like a lot of time I'm listening to my podcast. I'm driving to go pick up my kid or I'm playing a video game while I'm watching it. - Sure, yeah, yeah. - It's 'cause normally I'm playing Madden or NBA and I don't wanna listen to the people but I'm even just listening to it or I'm like thinking about the futility of my life. You know, stuff like that. - A lot of people are going through that later, yeah. - So, you know, that's when I listen to it. So, but every now and then, like it was weird though that I'll go back and listen to it. I'm like, okay, I'm watching a podcast. Like it's sometimes weird, I'm like, I'm watching a podcast. - It's also like, I've gone through the backlogs of a couple podcasts now. You can definitely tell what else is happening in the world. - Yeah. - But you hit those COVID days, everything changes vibe. - You can hear the changing audio. - We started, we were still social distancing when we started. - Yeah. - We were a child of the pandemic kind of. - Well, hey, we're going on five years. - Something like, we started recording like six months before we posted anything. - Yeah. - Just to pound out the cakes before we, yeah. But yeah, we posted ours like January the 1st. - So. - And we still did a, the still first three episodes were like, oh God. - They're not bad. - They're not cool. - And now it's like, you know. - We're like way more comfortable in the microphones. - Compared to now, it's like us then, it's like Cleveland Browns and us now is like, any team that's Cleveland Browns, going to our continuous hate of the Cleveland Browns for some reason. - Yeah, we're the Patriots now. Who's fucking Taylor? I don't know. (laughing) - Wow. - Anyway. - Should we do like an intro thing? I don't know why not. - Yeah. - Fuck yeah, cool. - This is one of our rant episodes. - Yeah, we had other plans and then our team is busy, having lives. So we're just doing this again. - All right, so. - I guess you can count it as in. - Sure. Three, two, one. (upbeat music) - Hey everybody, welcome to the best podcast in the state of Illinois, not named the judges. (laughing) - Plus, podcast on the left is gonna take us out. - Oh, that's a rumor. - I think it's Illinois. - Illinois, okay. - This turned out not to be true. - How about this? Welcome to the best podcast from central Illinois. - Yeah, suck it nerds. - Yes. From the farm fields and the crop fields of. - Our tidy college town. - Town. - Yeah. - From the state of Illinois, the 20th state. We be the central illest. - Oh, straight scent illest? No, that's not, no shit, I should have said nothing. You, fuck. - I'll edit that out. - Do it again. - Or put a bunch of for you for a bomb that. - Yeah. - Make it amazing. - Yeah, no. Production values. - For the fourth time or third time. I don't know, I've been drinking. - Don't call the comeback. - Don't call it a comeback. I've been drinking for years, catching it myself while I'm on. (laughing) - That's you deeply sad. If you're jacking off wild drinking. (laughing) - The only thing that makes that worse is if you're crying while drinking and touching yourself. 'Cause then it's like. - And you're watching basketball. (laughing) - Every time you're like, man, I take a drink every, I take a drink in a stroke every time I see a black person on camera. So you're just constantly beating it. - Yup. (laughing) - Sorry, I used to make a drinking game of my friends when I was in college. Like, let's play a drinking game. Like, let's play a beer pong or whatever it's called. That's it, here's the game. Let's watch a football game. And every time you see the ball, you take a shot. - Yeah. - You'd be drunk the first two seconds of the game. And like, Pat, that's called having a drinking problem, like, or we could just drink. How about that? I don't need a game to drink. - Yeah. - Call life. - It's like beer pong. Oh shit, I missed again. Drink. - Drink. - You just take the ping-bong ball, just drop it on the floor. I missed. Glug, glug, glug. - It takes a bite out of the ball. - Just eat the ball. I missed. You throw in the ball. Wait, that's a tennis ball. Oops. - I guess I have to drink again. - He's having a drink. Is that Chinese liquor? - Soju? - Oh, this is Korea. - Oh, this is Korea. - Yeah. - Oh, man, I know what I should do. Next time we do this, I should bring over this Chinese liquor that my sister-in-law got me. - Is it Kichiomoutai? - I have no idea what it is. It's in a small bottle, but this is big. She got it when she went to China in college. She gave it to me in 2010, and I've drunk it once. It was crazy then. And now that it has been sitting for least 10 years. - Sure, right. - I need to have you guys, it's like a little shot. I don't know what the hell is called. It was green and it has a lot of Chinese words on it. I'm not ready for this. She gave it to me. - Oh, that sounds fun. - Yeah. It was strong when I took it. So it's gonna be strong then. I should have you try to try this with the fuck it is. - It'll fight its way down and fight its way out. - Yup. - I need to put it through Google Translate to see what the hell it is. I didn't even remind myself to do that. - It's probably a cup of noodles from one of the Asian markets in town. - Yeah. - I like translating it to my phone. First word, they translate it as cannibal. And I was like, you know what? Let's just eat it and see what happens. - Have you been to HMART yet? - Not yet. It was crazy busy. HMART just opened for us. - Yes. - All those things out there. - I never heard of HMART, my wife told me about it. - I went to the one in Chicago a couple of times. - Yeah. She said she's been to it or seen it. I've never heard of it. Apparently this company's been around since 1982. This company's a millennial. - I guess so, yeah. - So I didn't know anything about it until they say it was going to open in the fall and it opened last week. And at this time, it is January 18th. - It is two days before Martin Luther King Jr. Day. - So happy happy out there. - So if you see if you're a white person and you see a black person, make sure you walk up to them and say, "Happy birthday to the King Day." Know what? Matter of fact, since it's the birthday of the King Day, we were going to tell that story. You want to tell the story, Isaac? - No, you go for it. - No, you go for it. - No, you go for it. - It's just funny when, okay, I guess I'll say it. Once again, this is BSR Day. - Yeah, we never got to the title. Hi, this is the BSR reactor with a random issue of the thing 'cause we couldn't get everyone together today. - So I'm Patrick. - I'm Isaac. - And before we get into what we're going to talk about, we're going to go over our Martin Luther King story. - This is the Martin Luther King Jr. episode. - Yeah, it will be. - It will be, yeah. - Well, it'll be on Wednesday, but, you know, close enough. - Yeah, yeah. - This birthday isn't actually on the 20th. - This is birthday? - Well, that's, we never know that. - That's why it's in January. It's supposed to be his birthday. - Oh, okay, all right, yeah. - It's supposed to be his birthday. That's why I see. If you're Black, you would know this because that's our Christmas. - Okay. - Yeah, it's like, you give presents. - Yeah, we don't sell it at Kwanzaa. We sell it at Martin Luther King Day 'cause that's our Christmas. - We sit around. - Happy Luther 10th or whatever. - Yeah, we just sit around. We come together as well. Cuz we sit around in a circle. We do our best impressions. Like, wouldn't, uh, reach the mountain top. - We do that and then we read, I have a dream speech and then we, you know, eat chicken, look at a bunch of women. - Sure. - And then we do a little dancing. Just like Martin would've wanted. - Whisper rap, different songs to each other, you know. - Yeah, you know. - Let me whisper in your ear. Tell me all the things that Martin wanted to hear. - You know, boom, boom, wick a wicker. - Boom, boom. He had a dream and he lacked the cream. And, uh, no, no, no. Here's my Martin Luther King story, which I've told before. - You have on this, I mean, yeah. - Yes, I have, yeah. But for those who didn't hear or don't remember or want to hear it again, 'cause it's very funny. I mean, it's, 'cause it's awesome. It's like the best. See, this is the best. There's different types of racism and this is one of the best types of racism. - Yeah. - It's liberal racism. So, I see and I met working at the same place. We were in the aisle. I'm wearing my work clothes. He's wearing his work clothes and we're talking, we're doing something. And then a nice white gentleman who said, about 55, 60-ish. - Oh, like that, yeah. - Yeah, it came up and he's walked up to me. I said, "Hello, how you doing?" He goes, "How you doing?" "Happy Mother of the King Day." And I'm like, "Oh, had Mother of the King Day to you?" I thought he was just saying that as just, you know, 'cause it was Mother of the King Day. And he just said it. And I was like, "Okay, that's nice." He's a bean. I said, "Hey, can I help you with something?" He goes, "Oh, you work here?" (laughs) - I forgot about that. - He didn't say, "Oh, you work here." As I'm wearing the uniform of work working. - Right, yeah. - It's not subtle. - No, it's not. - It's really not. - It's not. I was like, "Oh, you work here." Was he just walking up to random black people and sending Happy Mother of the King Day? - How many times did that happen for him today? - Exactly. And then does he think it's like Christmas? 'Cause he said it the way you would tell someone, "Oh, Happy Holidays" or Merry Christmas. That's the way he said it to me. Does he think that Martha of the King Day is like, "Black people's Christmas?" - Maybe. - I've wanted to try it out since then with other groups like Saint Patrick's Day and just walk up to a bunch of people. - Irish people. - Someone's super Irish. - Yeah. - I feel like top of the warranty, a fucker. - Oh, you gotta say it the nice way. So walk up to like, "Ossico de Mayo." Walk up to someone who's a spank and say, "Oh, Happy Cinco de Mayo." - Oh, that works 'cause it's like Independence Day. - Yeah, but then you gotta say-- - I feel like Happy Octoberfest crap. (laughs) Okay, we gotta see where a Caesar, not Caesar Mulan. What's the name? Caesar Sávez. I wanna say Caesar Mulan. - Caesar Mulan. - The dog guy. (laughs) - Yup. The dog guy. - I don't think you're gonna get a lot of people that are celebrating Venezuela in Independence. - Yeah, it's here. - Yo, maybe I'll walk up to this, oh shit. Talk up to like someone who knows like, "Hey, Happy Caesar Chavez, whenever his birthday is." Say that to that. - Uh-huh, yeah. - To see what they say. Like, "Oh, say back to him." And be like, "Oh, and then ask him, "Oh, you work here?" (laughs) But you have to make sure they actually have their job. You can't just say, "You work here." Can't just walk on the street, like, "Oh, you work here." "Oh, do I work on the street?" So what do I do? - Great. So what we're saying is that, share the fun, I guess. Also, if this happened to you in a small town and rule in Illinois, let us know. See if it's the same guy. I'm really curious. - Yes, I really wanna know. 'Cause he was saying it like, it was legit for him. He was feeling it. - It was legit. And the reason why I say I know he's liberal, because-- - There's a patchouli vibe around here. - Yes, yes, yes. There's a lot of, like, we're in a weird area where we have a good mix of hippies and salt of the Earth conservatives, if you say it. - Yeah. - So there's a lot of mixture of people here, and it's kind of funny, because they're like the best of the worst of each side of the spectrum. 'Cause we have people here who literally bike everywhere. They'll have like a bunch of rainbow flags and all the other main LGBTQ+ flags, and then have signs on the back of the car that say, guns are-- - It saves the whales. Yeah. - And then they'll be right-- - It's like Hillary 2018 or something, stickers? - Still have them on there. - Yeah. - They'll be like, the only good person is a live person, or some stupid hippie thing, and they'll be right in line behind a person who has a car that is decked out in the American flags with a picture of Trump kissing the bald eagle, saying lock her up and shit, and yee-haw, only good liberals, a dead one, or some shit like that. And you're like, yeah. And all I'm thinking is, I don't like anything that much to put that down. (laughing) - So it's like, I don't like anything that much to put that shit all over my cars. - Yeah. - I'll see people. - Nothing I would talk about, at least. - Yeah. - Like I would put my wife's face on a bumper sticker, you know? - I mean, I would. - I'm still trying to figure out, I'm still like, so she don't listen to this, so it's great. - So, I don't think mine has ever listened to one of these things. - I think my wife only listened to the one that she was on. And even then, I don't think she'll listen to it 'cause I think I played it. - Oh, yeah. - What I'm gonna do is I wanna get a picture of her and I'm gonna make a shirt out of it. Or maybe one year, oh man, no, I really should've did for a birthday that's coming up. I should've rented a billboard that had her face on it. - I saw one of those outside of Chicago. I was like, congratulations on your graduation. - Yes, that's a kid's name. - Yes, I seen them do that. When I was coming in to St. Louis one time, there's like, oh, happy birthday. 'Cause, oh, there's that person every year, her son who died from gun violence, she rents out every year around his birthday for like almost a month, a billboard that has his face on it when he died and everything. He's like, oh, happy whatever his birthday would've been and talking about how he's ever gonna see it. - Sure, yeah. - It's sad at the same time, it's like, oh. - And I'm also thinking, there is zero chance you're gonna get Americans to give up their guns. - I don't want them to do guns. I just want them to make it sensible. - Make it responsible? - Yeah, I mean, I don't need an AK. I mean, I don't lie, it's nice to have an AK, but I don't need it. I'm not a fucking soldier, but, you know. - We're not gonna talk about that now. - No, no, no, no. We're not gonna talk about it now. We're here to talk about butts and vaginas. - Exactly. - And penises. - Sometimes at the same time. - Yeah. - Mainly Isaac's penis. - So, speaking of that. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - So, when I initially thought it was just gonna be us too, I changed the movie selection from what I was gonna do to this bizarre Korean movie called a tale of legendary libido, which is basically an almost two-hour dick joke. (laughs) But maybe some other people are gonna show up so it's like, okay, I have to pick a movie that isn't just a dick joke. And now I wish I would have kept the dick joke. - I know, man. - I was watching back through, oh my god, this is just a dick joke. - I could have gone on it. So, what we're gonna do, we're gonna push that back. So, we're like, hey, it's just gonna be Isaac and me. So, we gotta do some sounds like-- - So, I picked a different film. - Yeah, Isaac, you know what? So, this is gonna be us. You wanna just do something different. - Yeah, yeah, get the rest of the movie. - We had no ideas. And so, having the ADHD as I do, my mind is a jumble a lot. And a lot of stuff I say is right off the top of my head because my impulse control is not good. So, I had an idea. It's called my semi-sober ideas. - Should I make a jingle for that? - Semi-sober ideas. - Patrick. - Perfect. - There you go. TM. (laughing) - TMZ, come for us. - No, you put TM so it's trademarked. - Oh, yeah. - There you go. - So, the idea, so these are some rant ideas that I've had in my brain that went from stuff that I thought about when I was sober to when I was a couple rummecokes in. So, this is kinda stuff we're gonna think about. Like, here's an idea. The future of, the idea behind this is I ask the question, what do you think the future of? 'Cause these lists, and I wanna think your ideas. - Oh, yeah, totally. I constantly have crazy ideas. You know, sometimes, as in the premise of our show that we talk about things that no one else will talk to us about, this is a perfect time to think about these ideas that I've had in my brain that I don't think about. And I'm not gonna go over all of them 'cause as I have wrote them down, I looked at them, and I'm like, "Oh, that should've made no damn sense." Man, I must've been drunk when I thought of that. The curds stuff gets really elaborate. Oh, God, yeah. So, the first one is the future of gaming. What do you think the future of gaming will be in the next fifth, no, 20 years. I'll say 20 years. - Next 20 years. Well, it's interesting you bring this up today 'cause the Switch 2 just got announced. - Yes, my son talked about that. Like, I'm gonna get that for him. - I'll buy it when it's old. I don't know. - I still haven't got a PS5. - I feel like every console I get is near the end of its lifespan. Like, I got a Switch last year. 'Cause like-- - My son did too, but I didn't buy it for him. My mother won't buy it for him. - Oh, okay. Then you got all the great games. You know what you're getting into. Everything has reviews. You know what to buy and play. You're not gonna waste your time on some bullshit that you got at Walmart for three bucks. - Hey, for Christmas, 2024, my son got breath of the wild and he's been playing that. - Dude, it's a great game. - He likes it. - He loves it. - So, yeah, future gaming. I think there's gonna be some gimmicks that are gonna come and go, but just having a portable gaming system that plays what you want it to. I think that's gonna be the future. I think Steam is gonna keep cruising the way it is just because it's a platform that everyone has invested a shit ton of money into. And now, like, redo the licensing for everything. So, it's like you own a stake in Steam, kind of. - Yeah. - 'Cause you don't own the games. You own access to the games. It kind of behooves them to protect Steam if you already have like a thousand games in your library. - Yeah, that'd be good. I feel kind of close to that. And how a lot of people don't like in game transactions and those micro-transactions and all those data packages and bundles and shit you gotta buy to get extra stuff. Y'all might hear the scratching of the cat. Is that a cat or is it mobile? - That's the Hedgehog. - Oh, okay. - I don't wanna say what you didn't need in the Hedgehog Sonic. - It's Ian's Hedgehog. - Oh, two on the nose. - Our Hedgehog is named Dory. - Why is she even Amy? - She doesn't play the games like that. Anyway, you're saying that cool. - Oh, sorry. So, for gaming, I think the future of gaming will be all of gaming. It's gonna come down to like two studios. 'Cause everything's gonna either close or it's gonna be monopolized. And it's gonna be a origarchy of two or three video games. It's on like movie theaters, like movie movie. - Yeah, sure. - Production changes it. And then the way to meta does their VR stuff where you put it on your face and everything. In 20 years, I think it's gonna go from being like a headset, being glasses, and you're just gonna have like a glove or gonna have like a little sensor in your hands. - Like a haptic feedback kind of thing. It's gonna be like Ray Perlin one, but better. - You know, I hope so in some ways. I don't know if it's gonna happen though. 3D films, when they first came out, everyone was like, "Oh, it's the future." And like, I don't care anymore. - Yeah. - I feel like I should care. But if I had the option between a huge screen and 3D, I'm just gonna pick the bigger screen. I think the last one that I really saw that actually used it correctly was Black Widow. That's been a minute, you know. - Three years? - Something like that. But yeah, like it used the 3D in a way that I actually cared about. Most movies, you just kind of forget it's there. - Yeah. And honestly, I think there's going to be a point with gaming where there's not gonna be, especially not so much for sports games. 'Cause sports games are always gonna be where you play by yourself. But like Call of Duty, First Person Shooters, Elder Rings, Zelda, those franchises that are good player only once. Even third person shooter games and third person games is just gonna be all online and no non online story mode. - You know, it makes it tricky 20 years out. Like five, even 10. I feel like I would have a good picture of what's going on there. But yeah, 20, who does? 'Cause like looking 20 years in our past, looking at an original Xbox and PlayStation compared to what we have now, it's like I would have never predicted that, right? - No, you won't, I mean. - But like, I think Nintendo's gonna keep being Nintendo. - Yeah. - 'Cause they're gonna have a system that's, you know, a couple years behind everyone else, but they're gonna develop their own games that everyone's gonna wanna play. - And they got their own niche. And Nintendo's like, we're gonna go for the niche. I actually think that Xbox won't be around in 20 years. - I think that Microsoft has bought a fuck ton of companies, including Bethesda. - Bethesda, yeah. - And those are the things that are gonna survive. They'll tip toe around on their IP for a long period of time, but I honestly don't know on that side. I think some of the IPs will survive. - Yeah, the IPs, there's always gonna be a Master Chief. - So there's gonna be a Mario, there's probably gonna be a, what, Monster Hunter. It's gonna be a Madden of some sort, yeah. - Oh bad, it's gonna be around. All the sports gonna be around, 'cause as long as their sports is gonna be able to sport stuff. - Maybe we'll finally get an Elder Scrolls game by then. - Maybe the next Half-Life game will be out. - They're always gonna be a Sonic. There's always gonna be, I was about to say Crash Bandicoot, but we barely had him. - Well, they re-released the Insane Trilogy, and then they had that update. It was across time or something like that on the newer systems. - But there's always gonna be some characters, but for Microsoft itself, I think they're just going to get out of gaming as console gaming and be more just focused on making the games and not actual consoles. - They're gonna try to keep the Xbox and Windows platforms integrated, 'cause if you've installed Windows 11 lately, it's like, don't you wanna sign up for Game Pass? - Yeah. - You want that, right? - No, I don't, yeah, you do. No, I don't, yeah, you do. No, I don't. No sign you up now, and then you can change it, but I don't want you. - For instance, to those like, hey, do you wanna buy the same game you bought for Wii and Wii U on the virtual console? Again, and again, again, again, again, again, again. You know, you think they could stream all these games. They're like two bags of peace. And I'm going through gigs of bandwidth, watch Netflix at night, you know? - I'm talking about gaming. I feel, and this guy goes into one of the other ones later, but I feel like Sony is gonna do gaming. - I think so too. Their PlayStation stuff has actually done really well, since considered. - I haven't looked at it, and if I'm wrong, you guys can correct me, but I think Sony is making more money off their gaming stuff, that's what they do. - Sony Pictures has gone through some rough times. - I mean, Craven's great. - I didn't see it though. - No one did. - No one saw Craven. - No one saw Craven. - They're still making money off Spiderman though. - But they said after Craven, how back Craven was, they said they were gonna stop trying to do Spiderman. - Spittles? - Yeah. - Well, they did three in a row that did nothing. - Even the last of that, a movie didn't do as well as I thought it was gonna do. - No. - Again, I didn't make it to the theater. - Okay, usually see all of this shit, and I just-- - I didn't wanna see it. Like, I wanna see Craven care. - I actually, when the first Craven came out, I sent it out to people like, "Ooh, I can't wait to go to the movie theater." And then as it came up, I was like, "Man." - Yeah, for sure. - Like, I'm actually the only movie I'm looking for to go seein' right now, the new Dog Man movie comin' out. - You're Dog Man? (laughing) You know what? - It didn't look bad. - And that's because I wanna take my son. - Right. - I saw Wicked last week, two weeks ago, 'cause Anne wanted to see it, right? Like, it's fine. It is Wicked. It's probably the best version of that you could get. - But no, it doesn't. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah. - Deedom and Zell. - Yeah, she's that one. - Yeah, she played, I don't wanna say Glinda, but who's better? - Veronica Mars and the other one. Anyway. Whoever the, um, she played the bad witch. The green witch. - Oh, okay. - And then Christian Chenoweth played Ford. - That's right, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, Ariard Grande. But no, that one. But actually, so Dog Man, I'm looking forward to, because my son wants to go see, 'cause my son has all the Dog Man books. He loves that, so I came with to take him back. - Oh yeah, totally. - Lilo and Stitch. - Live action? - Yes, in quotations. - I will. - I want to see that. - I don't know. - Well, I saw, have you seen the teaser trailer for it? - No, not yet. - Oh, it looks nice. - Okay. - See Stitch, I'm assuming the aliens are gonna be all CG, but the humans are real. - Mm-hmm. - It looked pretty good. - Yeah. - That's really, really most of the things. - I don't know. - And I guess, I'm actually, the thunder shits the Marvel people. - Oh yeah, the thunder, no, not thunderbolts. That's... - Yeah, that's thunderbolts. - That's it. - Yeah. - Thinking that was my little pony. (laughing) I take so much shit for talking about my little pony. I'm not into it, but I didn't see them. - He's a brony. - I'm not a brony. I'm not a brony. (laughing) ♪ My little pony, my little pony ♪ - See, you know that theme song, what do you do? (laughing) - My sister loved my little ponies when she was younger, and she had a bunch of little ponies. And I was like, it's just... - It's basically a little pony at a time. ♪ My little ponies, my little ponies ♪ ♪ Something, something, something, something, something ♪ - That's on the deal. - Yeah, friendship. - And it's magic is basically mid-tier anime. - I seen one episode of it, 'cause my son wanted to watch it 'cause he saw it when he was younger, and I was like, okay, I can kind of see how people are getting into this. - I mean, it's fun. - How many episodes have you seen, Isaac? - No idea. - Brony. (laughing) - It started being geared more towards kids when they figured out Brony's worth thing. So I stopped whenever that was. - All I did. - Whenever, like, equestria girls, and then that shit started coming out, I was like, nah, this is definitely not for me now. - My little ponies are almost as good as equestronauts. - Bob's burgers. - Bob's burgers, yeah. - There you go, there you go. - There you go. - Yeah, that makes sense, yeah. (laughing) - See, shit. - What other movies did I see lately? - I ended up seeing Nosferatu, 'cause that was definitely on my list. It's good. If you think, I wanna go see a Robert Eggers film about a vampire, it is exactly that. - As we all have watched a Robert Eggers movie on here called The Witch. - The Witch, yep. - Does sound like a putter. - It's based in Oliver Twist times, right? And Robert Eggers' thing is everything needs to be period, accurate, and everything needs to be perfect, and, you know, that jazz. And it's so spot on that it makes every other movie that uses that platform. Like, setting look really cheap. Like, the costumes are perfect. - So, going back to, I'm gonna call back. So, as we were talking about Colonel Bryan, he was a friend. - Yeah, making it back. - Nicholas Holt was on there a couple weeks ago, and he was talking about this movie, and he was talking about how Eggers called him at like three o'clock in the morning, asking, "I'm having an issue trying to find the right type of shoes people wear at this time." And she's kind of bucking me up all night, trying to find me. I'm like, "Let's horse the fuck he is." - Yeah, right, so. - Yeah. - We're actually talking about gaming, and-- - Yeah, we'll get back there in a second. - Yeah. - 'Cause I have a tie in with that. So, the other thing about this, this Nosferatu movie, is that when they go to see the count in the old country, the castle looks old. - Yes. - And most people will be like, "Okay, the same set designer did both things," but it seems so separated from everything that's happening back in the city, that it feels like a distinct setting, and I don't think I've ever done that, 'cause it feels ancient even in that time. - So, there's like a clear shift. Anyway, like if you're at all into that kind of shit, definitely-- - The clear demountation. - Yeah, demarcation, yeah. - Like demarcation, yeah. - There you go, demarcation. - Yeah, there you go. So, bring it back around, I think. - I've shown off how much my genius he is. - I studied for the SATs 20 years ago, I don't know. Do you love for me? - I never took the SAT. - Really? - Well, 'cause in Illinois, I took the ACT, but they also have, they're called ISAT, which is Illinois. - Okay, yeah. - Illinois-- - I did I step back in the day. - Is it the Indiana version of their SAT? So, yeah, so if you were going to Illinois school for college and you took the ISAT, that counted-- - Oh, figure. I thought everyone had to take that stupid thing. - Well, you could, I could've took it, if I was trying to go to a school outside of the state, but I was like, the only school I want to go outside of the state were so expensive that I didn't even try. I was like, nope, 'cause I wanted to go to USC or Hawaii. Nope. - Yep. - So, yeah, bring it back around to that. So, I mean, sort of a background for me. When I got out of the college, I studied video games for a while. Like, it was a big project I was working on, but I studied more of the philosophy of video games instead of construction techniques and engines and stuff. - I have a friend that is a professor at Michigan State right now. He has his degree in his species and music, but he focuses on video game music. - Yeah, I mean, it's a big thing now. Yeah, so like, I was trying, last part of this, to define what video games are, because you can define what a book is. You can define what music is. Like, even an audiobook, there's a format that it follows. There's a lot of people to take, you know, those standardized tests on a computer, but it doesn't feel right to call the SATs a video game. But it's the same format as a lot of video games. And like, what is that line there that makes people-- - It's dead, it's fun. - Yeah, I don't know if anyone had fun taking an SAT. - I also know people that do speed runs and they're not playing for fun either, but it's intended for fun. But some sociopaths could say the SATs are intended for fun, you know, bringing them all the way back around. So I think there's gonna be another Castlevania game, eventually, hey, the next 20 years. But like, IP recognition's gonna be a big part of that, because like, the engines themselves, side-scrollers and first-person shooters haven't changed a whole lot. Even when there's some big mechanic change, like what happened in Portal, for example, it's still a first-person shooter. As people our age try to get their kids into video games, they're gonna pick the games that they think are high art and try to force those kids to play the games. And just like we have reading skill and vocabulary and so forth, they're gonna force their kids to have coordination in their hands. Oh, what, you can't play a first-person shooter on a controller? What, are you like, a plebe or something, you know? - I don't think they'll be controllers anymore in 20 years. - Oh, maybe, but like, I think you're gonna control them with some sort of interface. - Like they'll control them with like your hands. Like, you're gonna put like glove on and you're gonna be like, you'll point like your hand like a gun. - Like a connector or whatever, yeah. - Yeah, like maybe. - Maybe. - Gun shot, gun shot, I'm doing this stuff. And then everyone's gonna be doing those things where if you were running it. - Or like a touch screen or something, you know? I don't think that's a good idea to play here. But yeah, I definitely think that parents are gonna take over the scene. Just like we're trying to get the younger generation to watch certain movies because they're good movies. And like the generation before that was like, you gotta read this book, this is a great book. And the one was like, you gotta memorize this epic because this epic is a stand-in for our society and really important to us. - Or just the fact that we want our kids to be like us. I literally started, I don't know if it was recorded or not, but I've talked about it. My son right now is watching recess, the show from the 90s. - Yeah, exactly. - 'Cause I like it. - It's educational. They're in a school. - Yeah, they're people like buses, right? Is there any like video games that you've told your kids like you have to beat Mario Brothers 3 or something like that? - Playing part, he's playing Zelda right now. Like I said, you watch a video. - He's playing Zelda, yeah. - He's playing Zelda, and I didn't say it to do, but it was kind of something that I'm like, oh, wow, he's cursed, isn't that? Shoot, I'm so think he, oh, Sonic. - Sonic, okay, yeah. - I have actually never beaten Sonic 2. I always get to like-- - Was it the casino thing or the egg, the death egg stage? - It's the one with the airplane on it. - Oh, with the tail's a jumping thing? Yeah, that thing's a motherfucker. - It's hard, I can never get past that scene, but he's gotten to that point, and I'm like, okay, that's good, but you understand it, but yeah, that's pretty much the Sonic is the only one. - Okay. - And that, yeah. No, but I don't understand what you're saying though. - So I think it's gonna take over this base, and we're gonna have people that are basically the Robert Eggers of the video game. They're like, well, it has to be the right kind of eight big graphics, you know what I mean? It's like you're gonna want the purest Mario experience, right? But it's gonna be stuff that the games are on GameCube, and it was like, whoa, you don't play with the load times? - Right. - Like, well, you're not getting a real experience, are you? - Is that really a good game that you can just keep playing without needing to sit for a minute for it to load, 'cause it's so much power that you need to go into making. - Right. - Christian Clay is, we didn't have for procedurally generated worlds. - Yeah. - We had these things called two disc. Like, I don't think he's actually, no, he's playing, yeah, 'cause he has switched, so his switches are just like, little memory, quite almost like a SD card, yeah. (upbeat music) B.S. Reactor is recorded in the Midwestern United States. The current flavor of the week is existential terror with a pinch of brutal cold and a hint of ice bullshit and an inexplicably haunting aftertaste. Hopefully, the next week we'll have something more hopeful. Either way, join us then for the next part of the rant. 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