scott and chauncey get the chance to talk to OC and OL Coach Conor Riley as the season gets ever closer.
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Boscoe’s Boys
Offensive Coordinator & OL Coach Conor Riley Joins the 'cast
This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. It's the moment of the evening, every kiss, a fan, and joys, little down and pour a whiskey. Back open the liqueur, please put your hands together, and make a little noise for your favorite wildcatters, the handsome Bosco boys. Ooh, Bosco's boys! Come on, boys! Boom, the boys are back, and folks, it is one of the most special episodes that we have ever had. We're well over 800 on our voyage to 900 total episodes, and this is someone who I've wanted to get on. Ever since he came to K-State, he is one of the highest thought-of offensive line coaches in the nation, and he is now our offensive coordinator. It is the man to myth the legend Condor the Magnificent, Coach Connor Riley, coach. Thank you so much for taking time, and I know you just got back from a total of four total days that you get off for the entire year. So I appreciate you taking some time to chat with us today. Well, I appreciate you having me on and excited to visit with you here today. Yeah, but before we get going, I know you just got done with a little bit of time. It's a dead period you got. I believe the final set of camps and maybe some official visits at the end of this week, and then preseason camp right around the corner, is this kind of the moment of the year that you start getting those goosebumps, or in your line of work, do those goosebumps ever go away? Yeah, you know, I guess the anxiety, the anxiousness of camp, ensuring that you have all of your details locked down for fall camp, and you feel like you're as prepared as possible going into the season, it gets amped up. Now, I'll be honest with you, it probably gets amped up a little bit more kind of after that Fourth of July date, you know, you finish up, we have a few days of vacation before then, finished up a lot of our camp season, a lot of our official visits, you take a deep breath, and then you celebrate the birthday of America, and then you start thinking about that next thing. So yeah, it's it's it is always the things that are in the back of our head. So one thing I wanted to ask you, and I'm a massive college football fan, you watch it all across the nation, something that I've been surprised and something that's really, you know, made me gravitate towards you as the offensive line coaches. We haven't seen a lot of folks turning over and leaving hopping in the transfer portal from the offensive line. Ever since you've been here, you've had some mainstay staples, and yes, you know, you rotate the offensive line is quite a bit, but what does it say about the culture you guys have built in that room that you aren't seeing Exodus every offseason if a guy is looking saying, well, you know, maybe it's not my turn. The grass might be greener somewhere else. Yeah, it's something actually that I think inherently with offensive lineman, you know, when you look at that position, and it is the position in the game of football that no one else can do their job without the offensive line. You know, we often refer to ourselves as the mushroom society, you know, the group that's kept in the dark and they're fed, crap, and and yet that's how they thrive. So I think inherently just offensive lineman in general are kind of they have a little bit more of that mentality that yes, I'm going to continue to grind a minute support the guys, you know, it was really a testament to our group. I think a little over a year ago when we had three seniors who came back for their sixth year and along with there was some talk about Cooper BB maybe leaving a year early and all four of those guys chose to come back. And we did have one person who who did get in a transfer portal, but in the grand scheme of what's going on with college football, I think it's a testament to the young men in that room and the quality of people that are in that room, the quality of guys who have left that room, who've developed to have set the tone for it. That's really what I'm most proud of. And you mentioned all those guys and we look back at the bowl game. We saw some guys decide to, you know, begin their transfer portal journey before that bowl game. We saw some guys get ready to start their pro journey before that bowl game. How much it mean to you that all those guys decided, no, this is our coach. This is our guy and you get aware an extra hat for that bowl game and moving forward as well. How touching was it that all of those guys decide, no, we want to play this bowl game. It was emotional and it's still something that I'm forever grateful for. You know, you can go back to those early weeks in December and I've talked about it before. There's a lot going on up here at in Manhattan and and some of those things were adverse but the having that staple and having those guys all say, no, we're going to continue to play in this game. We're going to finish what we started. You know, one of the guys mentioned to me, I want to really put this football program on a trajectory no different than Noah Johnson did for us after winning that Texas bowl leading to the 2022 season. So there were a variety of reasons. They came to me and said, no, Riles, you know, you've been there for us for five years. You've got this opportunity and we're going to be there for you. And that was extremely flattering, very humbling. I've used that word too many times, but really a testament to the relationship that we have and in the relationship that I look forward to having with those guys for years to come. How different has the spring and summer been for you wearing not only the offensive line hat, but also the offensive coordinator hat versus previous years here at K-State? You know, it's challenged me and I talked to someone the other day about this. It's challenged me to get better. It's challenged me to build better relationships with everyone within the offense. And it's one of those things that you kind of recognize and to my own fault and not something that I'm bragging about, something that I'm kind of regretting and learning that, yeah, you know, you kind of had a little bit of relationships with this position group or this position group, but I didn't have a strong relationships. And it's forced me to build those relationships, obviously the responsibilities. I'm actually up here preparing for some of our fall camp practices as we speak. And those have all been good challenges, things that have allowed me to continue to grow as a coach, that have allowed me to continue to get better as a mentor and allowed me to get better as a leader. So things have changed, but the focus of who we are, and it's not, you know, okay, hey, what are we, you know, what are we going to change within the offense? And there's going to be some changes within the offense, or I say changes in evolution within the offense. But it's, it's those aren't the huge things. You know, the huge things are sitting in front of the room, you know, being that leader, building those relationships with guys outside of that, that kind of that cave of offensive lineman, which has been, it's been great. It really has been. I love that the cave of offensive lineman, you know, I think you guys need to print up some shirts with that and have drew little, you know, pass those out at fall camp. It's a unique group. The offensive line, it's always really unique. It's, it's, you become, it's really, I've obviously biased, but it's really, it's such a tight knit group. And the ultimate team sport, if there's an ultimate team position, more so than the offensive line out there in any sport, I'd like to know what it is. No, I agree with you again. I, I only played in high school. I was not very good, but I was an offensive lineman. I was a center. There's something about those guys that, you know, once the summer weights hit, you know, we all have our friends outside the football team, you know, as buddies with a couple of those guys, you know, the pretty boys on the outside playing skill positions. But once those summers workouts are, it's, hey, you have your group and you are in that cave, you are in that trench, whatever, you know, whatever analogy you want to use until the end of the season. And I imagine that plus, you know, the all 12 months, once you get to that college level, who has stepped up amongst that group to take over some of the leadership? Because again, you have so many guys who have been there that have been the standard bear for that group, almost your entire time at K-State, who stepped up into those vacant leadership roles? Yeah. And I think that's a great question, because when you look at the personalities that we had and the depth that we had the previous two years, how well each one of those personalities complemented one another. And when I say personalities, the type of leaders they are, the type of presence that they provide out on that football field, you have a little bit of anxiousness when you're seeing, okay, shoot, all of these guys are leaving. But what's been so exciting is now seeing the personalities of these younger guys really flourish, really grow. So when you're asking who's stepping up, you know, Hadley Panzer is a phenomenal leader. And he always has been a leader. And he was kind of that young guy in the group, if you will, but seeing his growth as a leader has been tremendous. Taylor Portier, Taylor Portier, who's been here for, he's going into his sixth season now, he's been here as long as I've been here. And he's a guy who's had to overcome so much in his time here. And it's been, it's been a challenge for him. And now seeing him go back to some of those lessons that he learned and giving those lessons in that encouragement to some of the younger guys, he's really stepped up as well. Andrew Line Gang has stepped up significantly. He's just a phenomenal, phenomenally brings a great positive energy every single day. Carver Willis is another guy who's now going into he's a seasoned veteran who's he too, as you know, he played very early, and then he didn't play as much. And then last year really stepped into a role in his maturity over the past few years has been phenomenal. So those guys are ones that I've really, I've really kind of taken notice as to stepping up in in particular leadership roles. I think something that a lot of folks don't realize and I have no idea myself is how is how is your week? How are the six and a half days after you call victory formation? Avery takes a knee, you're hearing the fight song coming down the elevator, get into the locker room. How do you put together a game plan in your play sheet, you know, in that quick of a turnaround for this upcoming season? Do you have your own game plan or is it like, hey, once the bullets start flying, they just start flying? Well, you know, if you're talking about kind of our process throughout the week, you know, win or lose, and it's, it's one of the things that I've loved so much about coach climbing. And one of the things that I've learned so much about him is being consistent. And one of the things that we always talk about, and one of the things I've always talked about with the offensive line is you got the 24 hour rule. And meaning that 24 hour rule for our players is, okay, win or lose 24 hours, we're going to flush it. And we can't get too high and feel like we've arrived after what example you give of sitting in a victory formation. No doubt that we can't allow the same team to beat us twice, meaning we can't look back at a typical loss that we had some difficult losses last year. You know, you look at five, one score games that we played in and us ending up being one and four. And in those, those games, it's easy to go and say, hey, I can go back to this play, I can go back to that play, I can go back to this play. Well, if we're still doing that Monday and Tuesday, then it's impacting our preparation. So us as coaches, you know, I don't know that we quite have the luxury of 24 hours. You know, it's an interesting thing. We finish, we get to locker room. And that evening is when I begin grading. And whether we're on a plane ride back, or I'm back at my house here in Manhattan, my kids have gone to sleep, and I turn on the film, you begin evaluating what were some of the things that we need to do better. It's crazy. I'll even have at, you know, midnight, you know, I'll be sitting there in about the third quarter finishing up some grading and I'll get text messages from this particular player because they're watching it, they're evaluating it on their film. And so, you know, you really, you wake up the next morning. It's kind of an interesting thing. You finish that game on Saturday. And that's that one point that you absolutely can kind of decompress. But I can tell you, I wake up Sunday mornings and that anxiety that that pursuit is right back at you, you know, like, okay, what do we be able to get done today in our preparation moving forward to the next week? You've mentioned that anxiety and that that drive is that something that is just implement and implement and folks who are going to coach at the highest level, succeed at the highest level. And I think the stereotype is, hey, you know, losing never feel or feels worse than winning feels good. And is it that little drive inside inside your gut that has gotten you where you are today? I think it's with any coaches in this profession is the competitiveness that we have. And the ultimate drive. And one of the things that I always come back to is I want, yes, we want to compete. I am a competitor. And and just about anything that we do that it's not a switch that you can turn on and off. You know, my wife and I have had a scrabble game going for, you know, or a contest going for on about seven, eight years. And it's I mean, I keep track of every single score. And I do not like losing and scrabble to my life. So it, yes, that is something that is ingrained into coaches. But another thing is you do feel as a coach or I feel as a coach, some of the pressure that I want to put, we want to put as coaches are players in the best, best opportunity to succeed every single Saturday afternoon. And we're going to do that through our preparation. So we're some of that, where some of that, that pressure comes, and I'm not saying stress, but that pressure, because they're two complete different things is saying, okay, what can we get done today to get ahead on the week so we can begin preparing these guys to be successful to put themselves in a position to be successful come Saturday. And, and that clock starts ticking the moment you wake up Sunday morning. I love it. Coach Wells has been on the staff for about six months now, maybe a little bit more than that. How's your guys's relationship developed over that six months? And what sort of stuff have you been bouncing off of each other to get ready for this season? First one, what do you call them the plays? Well, it's, it's been phenomenal. And the first conversation that I had with coach Wells, because I, I've known of coach Wells since his days at Utah State and the success that he had had, and have always had a tremendous amount of respect for coach Wells. And then to hear one of my mentors speak so highly of him and Chris Climb and the relationship that they've had, you know, I can't say that I really met coach Wells, you know, in just until or visited with coach Wells until early part of this past year, our relationship has just, it's been phenomenal. The support that he's given me on a personal level, because of his experience, his experience as a play caller, his experience as a head football coach, his experience, just as a football coach and being in this and having been a few different places has just been instrumental to not only myself, but the, the entirety of our staff and primarily in that offensive staff room. So he, he gives up a very good head coaching perspective. And that's one of the things I absolutely love about is like, hey, why are we doing it this way? Can we do it a better way? Can we do it a more efficient way? Sometimes, yeah, absolutely. We need to reevaluate and sometimes it gets you to really kind of think because our offensive system that we are in, this is the base of the offensive system that I've been doing since 2013. It's just continually evolved with the, the different pieces that are in place. And so his, you know, if you want to say that thousand yard viewpoint has been so beneficial. He's been a few different places. Obviously, they had a lot of success offensively at Oklahoma the past few years. And they've had, he had a great amount of success. I think he had success at Texas Tech quite honestly. I did. I know what he had inherent. And that was a big challenge for him. But then you go back to some of the things that he did at Utah State. And what he has brought to us is what fits us? What fits us? What can we bring in addition, not just to say that we're going to throw shit against the wall and see what sticks. But how does this fit with who we are and what the successes we've had up to this point to continue to optimize what, what we can potentially be. So his addition for me on a personal level has been enormous. The relationship we have is phenomenal. He has texted me last night at 10 30 about just some of the protocols of how we're going to handle the communication to the quarterback. And, and it's just, and then what he brings as a position coach with his experiences that he's had have just been phenomenal for all of us here. I don't want to keep you, you know, for two and a half hours, which I wish I could, but I know you have a lot of stuff going on and I've lost stuff going on. So I'm not going to trauma dump the 2013 North Dakota state case state game, which ruined the start of my senior year of college. So I'm just going to move on. I am sorry about that. It's okay. I love you now. And I love coach climbing now. And we're just going to move on. You're still my favorite coach on staff. So I'll forgive you for that. Before we keep going, I want to give a shout out to our friends at Charlie Hussle. Charlie Hussle clothing company specializes in vintage inspired hometown and collegiate gear produces some of the best officially licensed case state gear in the game shop. Charlie Hussle's case state collection and show off your purple pride in style and comfort at Charlie hustle.com. Or if you're here in the Kansas City Metro, all their awesome locations across the Metro. Again, I'm going to quickly move on so I don't spiral thinking about that game. But, but I mentioned, you know, I went to school. I saw calling client quarterback my formative years saying Michael Bishop L. Roberson and all these running quarterbacks. I have to ask you, how are you going to bounce the desire to run Avery Johnson, who's maybe one of the best athletes in the country playing college football with showing off how great of a passer he is and distributing the ball to all those great players running backs wide receivers, tight ends. Because I know a lot of folks of my age, you know, early 30s, mid 30s, we see a running quarterback and we're thinking, all right, you know, treat them like calling treat them like L. Roberson run 30 times. You can't be doing that now. So how do you balance all that desire to get his legs going but also show off the arm? Yeah, I think that's a great question. And that's something that we're going to continue to evolve through because very early on, you know, I remember coach actually is coach climbing when we began running the quarterback maybe a little bit more going back 10 years ago. You know, one of the things coach climbing said is from a defensive perspective, you want to play 10 on 11 football, you want playing 11 on 11 football. So having that threat of that quarterback run game and having the ability to do it is always an advantage for the offense. Now, where we need to be smart about it as well is you need to look at and you can look at us at Kansas State just here over the past, you know, four years is we've had to play multiple quarterbacks for a number of different reasons. But injury included every single year over the course of the past four years. In fact, I think coach Wells did study the top 10 teams a year ago and I might be off by just one or two. But I believe the top 10 teams you finish in the top 10 eight of those teams played multiple quarterbacks in meaningful reps. And I'm not talking about, hey, they're, they're, you know, blowing the top off of somebody and hey, they bring in their, their backup to continue to get some development on that. So we need to be smart in order to manage his health. And we need to pick and choose those opportunities that we do have. When you have a stud like him, and I think he is one of the most dynamic athletes playing the position in the country, you still need to take advantage of it as well. And when we choose to do that, we have to be very smart about and. But as we look at it, too, we also need to protect him and protect the program. And one thing that I know probably a year ago, he may have been a little bit of frustrated with. And I don't mean to speak for him was that a lot of that, that view of him was, well, he's just, he's a running quarterback. He's this, he's that. And this kid can spend the ball. This kid can play really fast. And even in that passing game, one of the things that is really unique, and I'll kind of tell you this story, I remember Gilly at the end of that game against a very good defense, I believe top defense in the ACC in North Carolina State. And, you know, he's like, these guys next year, they're never going to give up a sack because his ability to extend plays, his ability to say, okay, a protection broke down, maybe a receiver got jammed up at the line of scrimmage. Can I extend that play? And then also, you know, you saw it on a scramble in a two minute drill right before half where he was able to, you know, they ran a very difficult defense of back end structure to throw the ball against, but they didn't have a quarterback player. And, you know, he is able to, you know, tough half football and run. So, so there's so many elements within that run game that we need to be smart for what we constitute as quarterback run, what we constitute as regame. And then, we know that he's going to have opportunities just to be the playmaker that he is kind of on his own. One final question before we get to the Manhattan Brewing Company four pack to end us. How do you balance trying to find the right puzzle piece of finding the best five guys, knowing that amongst, you know, the players you have in your room, almost all of them can play multiple positions versus locking in and developing that chemistry between those five guys. How do how do you balance being a mad scientist and just establishing the puzzle piece and rolling from there? Yeah, number one thing you're going to look at is is an evaluation of each individual and saying, okay, what can they handle? You know, Cooper BB could handle a lot more than maybe some of the other guys within that room. And you knew Cooper BB was going to be one of the top five. And I know when we look at the offensive line, we always say you got to build that cohesiveness and you got to take those repetitions together. And one of the things, and I know there's people out there who are like, you know, what the hell's Riles doing? And I get that question, you know, why is he rotating guys in and out? I really do understand that question. But one thing that you do have to balance, not only in finding who are those best five out there, but who else deserves to play? Carver Willis deserved to play last year. He really did. You see, he was forcing because of a injury to Christian Duffy, but then even after Christian came back, wasn't quite himself there early, continued to get better. He deserved to play. Taylor Poudier deserved to play last year. You know, Andrew Langen deserved to play last year. I'll even say this. I think Sam Heck deserved to play last year. It's just, I need to get over it a little bit when that with that center, the guy touching them all every single time. And it's not that, you know, Gilly wanted to come off a football field. It's not that Hadley Pans are wanting to come off these guys want to stay on the football field. But if they deserve to play, they're going to play. That's number one. Number two is it allows us that when, oh, shoot, all of a sudden, and people have been asking, you know, you lose four starting offensive linemen, that's going to be a huge question mark. Then we take a step back and say, well, Carver Willis is starting games. Taylor Poudier is starting games. Hadley Pans are starting games. You know, the Easton kilty, who's going to be a big part of who we are, has obviously started games. Well, now all of a sudden, you're not panicking when, you know, a great quote from a great friend of mine. You know, he said, we are not going to balk on graduation day, meaning when we lose these players, we have to have, we have to have had developed that next guy. And it's their time. It's their turn to step up. You know, these guys aren't, they're not recruited to be, you know, perennial backups, you know, and, or stop gaps. No, they're, they're recruited to come in here and compete. And when our guys see that, then they don't sit there and say, well, okay, hell, I'm backing up Cooper BB, you know, I'm never going to play. No, continue moving. And when you have the versatility, well, you know, you don't have to beat out Cooper BB, maybe you have to beat out so on, so on, so on, so on that, and we can have the versatility with Cooper BB. So it's, there's not a perfect science to it, but to give you a little bit of insight into how I look at that and balancing that those are the reasons as to why. I love it. And going back to that original first question, talking about the lack of folks leading the transfer portal, I think that's a big reason why. So I applaud you for that. Like I said, in my perfect world, I wouldn't have to log on to work and I'd be able to get you for two and a half hours, but we're going to end with the Manhattan Brewing Company. Four pack of questions, Manhattan Brewing Company, the best brewery in the state. The official tailgate beer of Bosco's boys is towney wheat for the third straight year. I got to say the first question I have here is, how many offensive line coaches turn to OCs across America have a beer named after them, Condor the Magnificent, it's a double IPA. So that's not a tailgate beer. That is a post game beer for sure. But we like to flex on other coaches across the nation knowing, hey, yeah, I got a double IPA with my name on it. Yeah, there's there's a few of few of my friends who are kind of beer snobs, if you will, that yes, I do say I was able to work in collaboration with what I also agree is desperate to be in the state of Kansas. And those guys are phenomenal. Absolutely love the place, love the people there. But when they asked me a few years ago, it was kind of one of those things. I'm going to tell a little bit of this story. I'm out recruiting and, you know, I get delayed flights. So instead of getting into my destination at nine, I'm getting into a destination at 1230 at night. You know, you got to be up for six AM workout. There's not much sleep. And I woke up that morning for a workout wherever I was. Actually, I remember exactly where I was. And I had a message. And it was asking if I wanted to do a collaboration. I can tell you this, I was flying high the rest of the day. I was exhausted. I was pissed. I was all this other things, you know, the airlines, blah, blah, blah. Boy, I was, I was in a phenomenal mood. So, no, it's they're great, great people down there. You know, and so I, it's, it's really cool that, that I get to get to work with those guys. So I don't know that there's too many to answer your question. I couldn't tell you. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just tickled that I got my own. Well, I love it. At least I believe it's got being released this week. Okay. So I got to give a little bit of a plug. I believe that it's, it's being released this week. You talk about the vacation. So we started our vacation kind of period right before the fourth. And then that first Thursday, I got up at six AM, helped the guys down at Manhattan Brewery, like take all this beer from down in the basement because they had a delivery that day. And then we started brewing Condor part three. So I spent the better part of a morning over there. I thought I was going to be there for a couple hours. So I parked in that two hour parking spot on the ticket. Yeah, I got it. I got the $15 ticket. I know the exact spot you're talking about to, you know, the exact spot. And I thought, wow, shoot, I'm only going to be here a couple hours. Well, three and a half, four hours later, I screwed a couple of things up. They like to give me a little bit of crap about that. But you know, that's, that's the fun of it. So I'm excited to try it this week right before we get into camp. And you're right. It's a double IPA. You know, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a two-shot beer. You know what I'm saying? You get that third one down is, is, is tough. Yeah, that's why, you know, if I'm out on the blacktop, it's super out of, you know, town-y wheat. When I get home to Shawnee or if I'm staying at my parents place and speak, that's when I'll have the Condor the magnificent because I don't think my season ticket, you know, neighbors would really appreciate me hollering down after two or three of those before the game, especially during those hot ones in the in, in early season. So yeah, the, uh, tasted as well. The alcohol content's a little bit higher. So, uh, I don't know what it is on this one yet. I'll have to find out a little bit later this week. I know it can vary a little bit from time to time. It's been one, I think like 8.3% or something. So right under double digits. So, uh, maybe now that you're the OC, they might, uh, bump it up to 10 and a half and you know what? Don't they, I don't know that they need to do that. I don't know that they need to do that. They asked me. They said, you know, hey, he riles, what can we do to make it better? I said, it's delicious. They said, well, you come in, you have one of those, and then maybe you'll have a town. He said, well, you know, shoot, I said, you know, if I come in at five o'clock, I need to still go home and kiss my kids. Good night. I can't have, you know, three or four of those suckers. You know, the only one who can do that, I think, is Taylor Brack. You know, Taylor Brack can throw down three or four of them and be just fine. Well, Taylor, you know, so I had a sponsor spotlight show with them a couple weeks ago and they were saying that they need Taylor to come in so he can brew his own beer as well. So, you know, Taylor, if you're like, Taylor listens probably more than he should. So Taylor, I know you're listening and I know you're mad that I haven't been able to get you on this summer, but you need to get in a Manhattan Brewing Company and get your own beer going. So shout out. No doubt. Absolutely does. So the next one I have for you, Cooper Beebe. First off, I think beyond Ring of Honor, beyond saying one of the best linemen of all time. I think one of the best case eight football players of all time in the testament to that is very rarely do you see an offensive lineman going viral for good reasons once in a season, let alone multiple times of season multiple times in the career. I feel like every week he had a block that would go viral on Twitter multiple time on Sports Center top 10. So do you have a favorite play or block from Cooper Beebe's career? Oh, gosh, there's so many to to really kind of think about and I think the easy one would be the one that he was pulling around on a touchdown by DJ Giddens there in the South End zone from I think it was a second and nine and we ran kind of a pin and pull scheme. I think that's an easy one really to look at just because he loved getting out there and doing it. You know, you look at the bowl game when in fours and three we in Avery had that and Cooper Beebe's quote unquote last snap in a case state uniform. Those are those are really cool and is a similar type schematic play. You know, there was a there was a time that I look at and I think is just on a on an inside zone and where he recognized pressure coming back away from the inside zone and he recognized it pre-snapped he foot fired back to the nose and bumped back and climbed up to the backer. Those are the things I look at that that I love about Cooper Beebe is just we know what kind of physical play he is. I think he proved that combine what kind of athlete he is but how smart how cerebral and technically sound the young man was has changed direction. So I can't really pinpoint one if you will but yeah it was it was kind of a highlight show just about every single week with Cooper Beebe. I love it. We got two more for you and these are two of my favorite to ask if you had to perform a karaoke song that would be broadcasted live across the country. What song are you singing? Holy cow that is you know that is so hard because my wife puts me on the spot all the time with total clips of the heart when we go on vacation and I'm talking when we go on vacation it's like you know she's done it twice and I'll only do that when we're like not in the continental United States if you know what I'm saying. So you know in college I was a pretty big karaoke singer so man that's a really really hard one. I'm going to have to go with I'm going to have to go with Celtic Symphony by the Wolfton. Nobody knows okay nobody knows the Wolftones you know I think my Irish heritage and it's something that me and my little girls will sing quite a bit so I'm going to go Celtic Symphony by the Wolftones all right they'll force some people your listeners to actually go listen to that song. Well I'll have to I'll have to talk to Ryan to make sure I get you on next July so we can talk about that Ireland trip. The final one I got for you and again this is a classic for the show it's not are you wearing boxers or briefs which I did ask Gene Taylor live in his office in the early days of this podcast five years ago but if you had to get in a car and drive from Bangor main to San Diego California with anyone on the football staff who are you choosing to make that road trip with. Oh boy oh boy see and here's the thing I have to answer that as like who wouldn't tick me out of the car you know that's that's probably for my own my own your own safety so it might be do you know who it might be it might be Mike Tuyassovo I think that he and I could talk and then you know if Tuy is going to drive you know it might take us about half the time. I don't know if my first time recruiting in California with Tuy I went and picked him up at the airport and he could tell that LA traffic had gotten a little bit of the best of me so he said why don't you let me drive and you know he got that express line because there's two of us in the car and us I said they're Tuyi Tuyi I got kids man I got kids so the stories he's got are plentiful I might say Tuyi I think that would be that would be that's a hell of a question by the way that's a real good question so I'm out to be Tuyi. It's a good one I do have to I do have to say shortly after I think it was maybe oh man maybe March or April after Chris Kahneman got hired me and my former co-host Grant went into the offices and he had just gotten off the phone with one of the national sports guy doing a preview magazine and we asked him the karaoke question he looked at us like he was going to kill us so I I'm forever scared of Chris Kahneman because he did not want any of our nonsense on that day so I'm glad you answered both of those the climb yes well I can tell you you know and you want to talk about somebody a karaoke guy you you look at Tuyi Sobo now okay he is now I'm not saying that he's Brian LaPak karaoke you know Brian LaPak is like a trained trained you know singer and but he I'll tell you Tuyi knows them all man he knows them all and if you go from Maine and you know in traverse the entire country you know that's another thing with Tuyi as well you might run into you know about 150 people that Tuyi knows and through every state this guy knows everyone I'm just telling you I love it well that's all the questions I have I always like to give the floor what would you like to tell the boneheads which is what we call the fans of our show or any case state fan who is who's listening to this episode oh just you know first and foremost can't thank them for the passion and the love that they have for Kansas State football and for Kansas State athletics it really it really does help so much and from our standpoint it helps so much in recruiting the the the incorporation of our players getting out into the community I think is phenomenal and it's so really the number one thing I want to say is thank you and I'm really excited about this upcoming football season and there's going to be some youth there and there's going to be be some ops and there's going to be some downs at times and we need to minimize those downs and and continue to grow through it and I know that this group of young people are going to continue to grow and respond and in times of adversity and and whether it's a series whether it's a play whatever the case might be I know they will so I'm really excited about it and absolutely love the fan base here in in Manhattan Kansas and surrounding communities because it's it is phenomenal it is one of a kind well Connor coach Riley thank you so much for taking time out of your day to talk with us I promise to keep my mouth shut on third and long you know in section seven I'm not going to try to scream at you what play I think my dumb ass thinks you should be running I promise to keep that to myself but no I really appreciate it best of luck this season and and you know we're all going to be backing you and cheering for you so with that all said four coach Riley for my dog Chauncey who was a very good boy didn't bark once during this episode my name is Scott McFarland we love you guys and go cats Hail to the purple hail to the white wildcat in spirit wildcat in fight Hail alma mater from sea to sea onward forever hail victory fight you can't stay wildcats for alma mater fights glory in the combat for the purple and the white faithful to our colors we will ever be a fighting ever fighting for a wildcat victory fight fight fight we can't stay wildcats for alma mater fight fight fight fight glory in the combat for the purple and the white faithful to our colors we will ever be fighting ever fighting for a wildcat victory go state One, two, baradamala, baradamala, baradamala, baradamala. 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