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Oscar nominations! Traitors! Brutalist vs. Emelia Perez! Saturday Night!

Danielle & Brett are back after a mini-hiatus to react to this year's Oscar nominations, the frustrating duopoly of Emelia Perez and The Brutalist as front runners and there rest of the acting nominees.

They also discuss the sweaty Aaron Sorkin qualities of Saturday Night, Danielle discusses the evolution gameplay in The Traitors season 3, Brett dives into some of the quirks he noticed in Juror No. 2.

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Duration:: 1h 3m
Broadcast on:: 25 Jan 2025
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(upbeat music) - Hey, Julie! - Hey, Julie. - Welcome to "Hey, Julie." A podcast about Big Brother and Survivor, though not about either of those two things. Good morning, Danielle. How are you? - Good afternoon, Brett. I'm doing wonderfully. I might let my lust for life has been revitalized. - Oh, has it. That's good. - Is this a moment in early 2025 where it was being pulled away from everyone, I should apologize to our audience. Not that many people are like checking in on Julie Town, you know, outside of Big Brother's season. But we got the year, we were on a roll. We were doing holiday pause. We were doing hot or not, hot or floppy, not whatever the hell we call it. I'll see you in 50 weeks, flop or hot or tops or flops. We talked about Nosferatu and then stuff got away from us. - Radio silence. - Little Brady had to evacuate. - Yeah. - Little Brady had to go on the lamb with a duffel pack, a duffel bag and a dream. - Yeah. - Things are okay here in Los Angeles. I apologize. Just wasn't safe to be around my old neighborhood, my current neighborhood. Danielle visited this great land of ours. 13 stripes and 50 stars. Danielle went to the Grand Canyon. So we've just been off for a little bit, but we're back. - We're back. - I was Arizona, Danielle. - I loved it. I was like, well, Brett and I were starting to talk about it. I was like, maybe we should record it. So like, because Phoenix is my new favorite American city. I mean, here's the thing. - You did visit in January. - Yes. - More temperate, more temperate time. - Exactly. - Temperature-wise. - But extremely, it was like amazing timing 'cause it was a cold snap here in Toronto. And so we went to Phoenix, Arizona. And we stayed at first, before we went to the Grand Canyon at this resort that had a view of the Camelback Mountains. And the resort had a heated pool. So even though it was like, especially for Phoenix, it was chilly. I mean, for me, I was like, I'm wearing shorts and a dress. Like this is amazing weather. But like, a heated pool that you could just lie in all day, a PF Chang's, you know, 10 minute drive away. - PF Chang's is actually headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona. - What? - I know a lot about PF Chang's, one of my closest friends from college, her father's like, "Don't like, don't like LinkedIn this or whatever." - Right, right, right. - I'm not a really answer. But like, her father's like the CFO of like PF Chang's or whatever. And like, just gets Chang's all the time. And like, Chang's box seats at the Cardinals games, Chang's box seats at Diamondbacks games. Just like, royalty, like Arizona royalty. Oh my God, yeah, anyways, yeah, Chang's awesome. - It's just a fab place. Like, you know, we were only there for two nights and then we went to the Grand Canyon. I think the Grand Canyon was so beautiful, but like, it was very cold there. (laughs) Wasn't prepared after being a little warm. - Did you go on a donkey? - No, I didn't go on a donkey. We just sort of like did the basic, 'cause we had our three-year-olds. I wouldn't say the Grand Canyon is like exactly what a three-year-old wants to do. - Big ball on the ground. - Yeah, exactly. - It's like a big sandplay fan. - There were, I don't know if this is me being a mom or me being old, but there were a lot of adults who were like climbing out onto uneven rocky surfaces on the Grand Canyon to take their Instagram pictures. And I was like, you are not able, you should not be doing that. - So there's a canyon that is a literal mile deep. If you fall, it is a mile drop. - Yeah. - Approximately, people are just backing up to it on rocky, uneven terrain, just trying to get that selfie. - There's no fences, there's no guardrails. Yeah, no, people are just like climbing up to get these, I'm sure they're a beautiful pit. - We haven't built a wall, we haven't built a wall for this guy. - No, there's no wall. - Oh my God, oh my God. - So that was crazy. - But yeah, loved Phoenix, highly recommend, I mean, I'm sure it's different in the summer, but it went to beautiful-- - I've only been once around. - Yeah, I've only went once to Phoenix. It was a few years ago, it was also early in the year, it was in February. And I got, it was like, Vegas without anything to do, was like sort of the vibe that I got. It's like, all the strip malls and suburban sprawl of Vegas, without the Vegas thing in the middle, which maybe you like that, maybe you don't. I'm terrified to go there during the summer. As someone who lives in the South, in the Great American Southwest, you know, and is troubled by natural disasters and croaching on my backyard, troubled by housing prices, here and that. I often think, oh, maybe I should pack up and go to, to Sunny Las Vegas or Phoenix, Arizona. And, but then I'm like, the people who live out there, who have lived many summers, with 120 degree heat. And like, they're all like, sort of like, tanned and leathered out there. I just don't want that for myself. So I don't know. - I'd like to read you an American's take on the type of people in Arizona. 'Cause I was texting with an American saying like, "Oh my gosh, should I move here? "Should I retire here?" - I would love it if you came there, 'cause we'd be close, it'd be a six hour job. - Yeah, oh my gosh, it'd be so fun. Here's the, here's the review of the type of people in Arizona. Sunburnt Country Club golf people, with displaced Orange County energy. Libertarians who don't wanna be cold, and that's it. - Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. That was much better. - I think I could fit in with that. I think I could do okay. - You could. Yeah, maybe Scottsdale, Scottsdale mom. - Oh my gosh, Scottsdale, we went, we took a little day trip, it's 21 to drive. (laughing) That was great. (laughing) - Anyways, cool. - If any of our listeners live in Arizona, listen, I've never been before, and now I'm gonna come back every year, so get ready here. - We'd love to do a live show that you can. (laughing) - Let's talk about entertainment. - Entertainment, so no survivor, no big brother news. Well, we'll hit that eventually when it comes back. Survivor 48 in like March, something like that. - And I do have tangential, if we get to it, tangential related information, just because I'm watching the traders U.S., and there's a lot of big brother and survivor people on it. - Okay, well, why don't we start there? Why don't we start there, and then we'll do Oscars, Oscar nominations, and we saw some movies. I gotta talk about the brutalist. I gotta talk about Amelia Perez. Daniel and I have to talk about the Saturday Night Live movie. (laughing) - We'll get to those, but let's talk about one thing that people actually care about, and all sort of just nod and listen. - Okay, so I am watching the traders U.S. I don't, I'm like, Woodburt actually likes this show, if he sat down and gave it a chance. I'm not sure. It's undeniably entertaining and campy, and it has a cast of people who you mostly know and like. And the people who you don't know, they do a pretty good job of including carving out characters for them. So it's like, just a breakdown, it's entirely reality cast members. So it's real housewives, people from survivor, people from big brother. - I have seen an episode of the traders. - Okay, just like a recap. But so this season, an Alan Cumming host, and we've gone on diet drives, on how much we love Alan Cumming. Yeah, he's better than ever this season. I don't know how he does, he's so good. But so, this season, the traders, so the people who can kill, are Carolyn from the most recent survivor, Blonde Carolyn. - Carolyn Weiger. - Weiger, yeah. - The weird one. - Pookie Carolyn, yeah. - Yeah, not the most recent survivor, like three years ago. - No, but recent. - Three years ago? - Yeah, yes. - Yeah. - You want to feel those? (laughing) - This is like... - Remember Joe Biden? - It looks amazing. - It looks like Mal. - She's like, I mean, she was pretty on survivor, but she is stunningly beautiful. I keep like going to my husband and saying, wow, she looks good. - She is. - Oh, absolutely. - And she wears great outfits. She got these really cool tattoos. - R-H, R-H as well. - Yeah, probably. - A stunning 36, 37 years old. - Let me tell you. - But so she's a traitor. Danielle from Big Brother Survivor, I mean, Big Brother All-Stars, Big Brother Season 3. - Danielle Reyes. - Danielle Reyes is a traitor. Boston Rob from Survivor is a traitor. - What a spot of that easily. - And Bob the drag queen, who is from Drag Race, was a traitor. - I've heard the name, but I'm not a drag queen. - He's great. He was great. But so here's the thing. - You got a couple, you got a lot of reality show stars who are kind of coming in to this show, knowing like, I'm just gonna go guns blazing. Like, I'm not trying to play subtle. I'm not trying to like have incredible gameplay. I'm just like going for it. So like, Boston Rob wasn't originally a traitor. He wasn't even originally supposed to be on the show 'cause they did that thing where you know the producers were like, fuck. They did the thing where they brought Boston Rob out on the very first episode and we're like, if you vote, yes, to having him join the season, like, you could win a reward. And if you don't know, like, he's not joining the season and that's how-- - Reversalise. - Reversalise. - Everyone voted no. So they like had to take him away and put him in like a break room for a couple of days. 'Cause then, and obviously, they were like, actually, we're gonna do like this other competition and Rob, you are gonna come back in the game. - Yeah. - Not only are you looking in the game. - We already paid for your hotel room in Scotland for six weeks. - Yes. So like, not only are you looking in the game, you're a trader, which is like the powerful thing that everyone wants to be. So he's a trader and he immediately is like, you know what? I don't trust these other traders. I'm just gonna cause chaos. And he was just like at the round table, which is like the tribal council. Like, Bob the Drag Queen, you're a trader. (laughs) - Do the traders know who the other traders are? - Yeah, they all meet in a room. - So they all have to work together. - So they all have to work together. - Okay. - They work together and they're supposed to work together as like a unit because it's beneficial to them to like, kill everyone else off and then fight each other for the prize at the end. But like, this dynamic- - Is breaking the game. - Yes, this dynamic I've never seen before, where there's only been three seasons, I guess, but like, where the traders hate each other. Like Carolyn, Carolyn is just like losing her mind every episode. Like, why does anyone listen to me? And she has good instincts. Danielle is playing horribly, horribly. It's like a shock, how bad a lot of big brother legends are. Like, last season, Dengeasling was on, he was terrible too. So she's playing horribly. She's probably gonna get like, found out soon. And then Boston Rob, who's just like, "I'm gonna come in and swing my big Boston Rob dick around." And like, just like, decide who's, like, everyone's playing my game now. And then like, the cast of non-traders, the Faithfuls, are also phenomenal. Because in what other world would I say, I'm now a fan of Zac Efron's brother, Jeff, or whatever his name is, I don't know what his name is. I just call him Efron. (laughing) I don't even know what his name is, but he's adorable and he's so good. The four, this Bachelorette, she was the Bachelorette. I didn't watch her season. She's so funny and cute and adorable. I mean, Bob Harper from The Biggest Loser is on this season. He's got a great personality. It's just like, it works. This show works. - Is he a loser or a trainer? - He is a loser. Alan Cumming calls him a loser and tells him to go sit on the loser bench. - That's great. - At one point. And then people try to dog and he's like, don't talk to Bob, he's a loser. So like, it's such a fun show. I know you're not gonna watch it, but like for anyone else who's watching it, like let's fire up the Discord again, 'cause I am like obsessed with how good it is this season. - Well, that's, I mean, I think that one of the points you made up in the middle was really interesting, was that this is only the third season. And you have some people here who are like, for lack of a better term, maybe some people are amazing minds at astrophysics or heart, vowels, repair or whatever. But we have some of the greatest minds in reality game show competition playing this. And it's like, it wasn't even until Big Brother season two or three that people start really like, Dr. Will sort of broke the game and figured not even break the game, but he was like, he was one of the, I don't know, one of the original great minds of like manipulation and the game and dang easily too. Like, these games do get broken in a bit. There's the original style or like sort of original rule book of like, this is how you play and then you do this and then you do that. And then there's these unintended consequences of how the producers come up with the rules of the game, that the players start, you know, breaking or melding the rules a little bit, bending the rules a little bit. So like that, it's something that's only natural and especially might even be super charged when you have someone like Boston Rob in the game or you have people like Dan Giesling or Dr. Will, who I know have played already. Maybe they're like, maybe we're gonna look back at season, you know, when we're at season 10 of the traders and we're like, oh wow, they were playing the traders like very simplistically in the first few seasons. They didn't know how to color outside of the lines with the strategy and gameplay. I've only seen one episode of the show. It's not totally for me, but I think it's really interesting that that's happening this year. - Well, what it brings up to me is I'm like, I'm so curious about the unwritten rules of this show because like this past episode, everyone was thinking that one of the traders was this absolute sea list, like not a star reality show girl. Like between these two reality show girls who are just like not, like if I don't know them, they're not reality stars, you know? And I was saying like, if I was one of them, I would just say guys, I'm not as big a stars all of you. There's no way the producers of the show would have made me a trader, like obviously. I'm barely, probably barely getting any screen time, but they didn't say that. I was like, this is the obvious strategy to use. It's always bigger stars who are the traders. So why not just call that out? Like, I wonder if there are unwritten rules about like using the show as strategy list out of it. - Don't use production as a strategy. - Yeah, but I mean, it was just like, like it's kind of the elephant in the room sometimes. So I just wonder if like someone is finally gonna embrace and talk about that, but whatever, it's so fun. It's so fun. There's two people, there's two eliminations every episode. So it's like, it keeps it spicy. Yeah, exactly. - Take no big brother survivor. - Yeah, everyone leaves before you get sick of them. - You know where, what show should have two eliminations per hour or more? - Saturday Night Live. - The Oscars. I lost you. (laughing) - Could have been either. Could have been either. - Which one do you wanna hit first? - Let's do the Oscars because-- - Okay, Oscar nominations came out and was this a bad year for movies? I'm not totally sure it was that level, but man, these awards, I feel like kind of like fully missed the mark and that there is a the brutalist verse Amelia Perez. Like these are the two front runners for best pictures. It's bad. I've seen both of these films in the last month since we've recorded, the last 25 days, since we've recorded, and both highly mid movies. And I have a theory that no one, no one in America is brave enough to say about the brutalist and Amelia Perez. The brutalist and Amelia Perez are the same movie. And I think Amelia Perez-- - I can't say either. - I wanna just put, not even quotes here, not even parentheses, standing for the record of our one nose who watches us on YouTube, not that we call on YouTube that much. (laughing) Very white, very straight man. - Ken Ken-- - American, Ken Ken for New York, live in LA. There are a lot of super legitimate complaints about the movie Amelia Perez from trans folks, from Mexican folks, from folks with better taste than I have. - I heard this, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen it. - For people with taste in which I might not have any. - You don't mean it. - Oh, I've read a lot of them. I've educated myself. Don't worry about it. I'm just talking about the movie on the merits of it being a movie and not like all the other baggage around it. I think the movie is slightly better than many people are saying. I think it's very easy for people to dog pile on this movie because of the socio-cultural stuff happening around this movie, how it misses the mark in representations of trans folks in representation of Mexican culture. And how it distills Mexican culture until everyone's either in a cartel or they're dead and there's no other people who live in Mexico. - What about Selena Gomez? - Which is not true. - Can you just give me a quick breakdown of Selena Gomez's character? - I'm not a, okay, I'm not a Selena guy other than my favorite movies, "Spring Breakers." - "Spring Breakers." - And the other favorite of Selena. - Forever. - I'm not a Selena guy. I don't get it with her as a performer. Like also like she's kind of not memorable. And "Spring Breakers," she's like one of like four or five leads of that movie. I just don't get it with her. I've tried watching "Only Murders in the Building." I find that like good for her, good for them with that show that it's so popular, but like I don't think it's crazy to say Steve Martin and Martin Short are like in a completely different universe in terms of like comedic performers than Selena Gomez. So, and I'm not like a Disney person or whatever she came up doing like as a kind of tween. So, I just don't get it with her in anything that I've seen other than "Spring Breakers." - But what's the character? - She's like, she is, she is-- - Like I don't even know the plot of this movie. - Okay, so let me just like a little bit of, let me just dive deep into the beginning of this movie, which is actually the best part of this movie. I would highly recommend everyone watch the first 45 minutes of Amelia Perez. - Okay. - And if you're feeling it still, keep watching it. And whenever you decide to give up, that's a great place to give up. Amelia Perez is about a very dangerous, violent cartel leader in Mexico who hires a lawyer played by Zoe Saldania. The Saldana, Saldania, sorry. Saldania, I apologize, there's an ennye there. To arrange for him to fake his own death and transition to a woman because he, I apologize, I'm not using the current pronouns. She is the, the cartel leader was born male, but is a woman and wishes to transition to being a woman. - And not Amelia Perez. - Amelia Perez, yeah, her name is different at the beginning of the movie. - Okay, okay. - The name of the character. And when she transitions, her name is Amelia Perez. And the cartel leader wishes to basically fake her own death and transition to a woman and live a life away from crime. Saldana Gomez, I apologize. Saldana Gomez plays the wife of the cartel leader who was forced to kind of move away. And then the bulk of the movie kind of takes place when they're all reunited and they're all living in the same house together under the guys that Amelia Perez is a long lost cousin of the cartel leader and not the cartel leader who's now living as Amelia Perez. And because they have children together and Amelia wants to live with her children again and be a part of their lives. But, and she has enormous wealth from all the cartel drug dealing violence business. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So that's the movie. And Saldana who plays his lawyer. I'm sorry, her lawyer, I apologize. And Zoe Saldana is incredible in this movie. She's amazing. She's probably gonna win best supporting actress. Honestly, it's a best lead actress performance. The Carlos Ovia Guscon who plays Amelia Perez and Zoe Saldana are both kind of co-leads of this movie. And if you watch it, it's like, this is Zoe's movie. It's not Amelia Perez's movie, but it's like, it's like category fuckery. She's amazing in it. And God bless her. She deserves an award for all the blue and green and purple makeup. She's had to wear, you know, shooting zombies and aliens all that garbage for the last 20 years. Yeah. - Oh my God, what a career. - I would love for you to watch the first half of this movie and then give up whenever you wanna give up. I actually, I went into this movie not knowing a lot about it and hearing that it's a piece of garbage. And I was ready to hate it. And let me tell you, I watched this movie in the first half, 45 minutes. I was like, I don't know what people are talking about. There's movie fucking rules. The movie fucking rules. It is loud, audacious, I mean, it's like, it's like, shall we dare say, oh my gosh. Well, who directed Moulin Rouge, our guy? Our guy. - Baz Luhrman. - Baz Luhrman. - Baz Luhrman. - Baz Luhrman. - Baz Luhrman. It's a little Baz Luhrman-filled. - Oh, the director was French, right? - Yeah, the director's French. It is, it is just like a very like maximalist, messy ass musical. Like it's bright, it's colorful. It changes tones wildly from scene to scene. And it feels a bit like a Baz Luhrman movie. And in a good, like at its best. And there are parts of this movie, I found the first 45 minutes of this movie. I mean, like fun, like super fun. There's like troubling stuff in there, especially as they start diving deep into like the transitioning stuff. And like the way they sing about it, there's like, there's this one sequence that's like, people have been kind of mimefying online. - Okay. - Where they're like at a, you know, like a gender transition clinic. And people are like literally singing about like penises and vaginas and like, like it's crazy. It's crazy. - Got it, yeah crazy. - Into the second act after she transitions, there's this whole stuff about like the rest of the movies about her creating like a nonprofit organization to like identify the victims of like cartel violence. And it goes, and it goes like wackadoo and like very self-serious and none of that really, none of that really works at all. - You want more of the crazy? - And as I mentioned before, there's a lot of completely legitimate criticism about this movie, about how it basically treats trans folks in this movie and how it treats, you know, it's Mexico as this like, if, you know, many people say like where our culture is not a monolith, it's not one thing. And this movie absolutely is like, Mexican culture is a monolith. And everybody is either a cartel gangster or a dead person who is the victim of it. And it's like, that's just not true. You know, how it, yeah. So there's a lot wrong with this movie. It is, I just don't think it's bad. I just think it was like, this was, I thought it was an audition. - It's ambitious at least. - I thought it was super ambitious. And I had never seen, I have never seen a musical like this. And I love musicals. And I was like, whoa, this was really, parts of this were really cool. And I've like never seen anything like this. This is my favorite musical ever. Fuck no, am I ever going to watch this movie again? Fuck no, am I going to stream the songs on Spotify? Fuck no. - Are they original songs? - Yes. - Yes. - And some of these quizzes are really cool. Some of the dance numbers and like, the way they shoot it is like, this ain't wicked. This is not like a big, bright. - This is not a, - Yeah. - This is not God with the wing. This is like, this is like, grimy. It's like, the photography is like very like, contemporary and modern. I don't know. So anyways, what I'm trying to say, I gotta back it up here. The Brutalist is like the other movie that's like running. It's the front runner for this. - Front runner, for sure. - The Brutalist is much more like classically like a good art house movie. It's about a man who goes through, who is an artist at heart. - Who goes through the shit. - Who do you go through the hall of cost and stuff. I'm not making light of the hall of cost. - Yeah. - Hey, okay. But it's like very like a great man survives a horrible thing in Europe. And that movie, when the Brutalist is good, the Brutalist also, I need to mention, is three and a half hours long, including an intermission, which I honestly thank God for the intermission. - Yeah, enough is a lot. - Daddy got to go to the bathroom. - Yeah, he needed a snack too. - And the first half of this movie is actually pretty incredible. And the highs of this movie are like, you're like watching the Brutalist. The first half of the Brutalist, you're like, this is the best fucking movie I've ever seen in my life. This movie's incredible. It's so good. And then the second half happens. And the second half is just like actively quite bad in many, many ways that I'm not going to spoil or get into that I think are quite probably, there's a lot of very problematic stuff happening in the second half of this movie. As it relates to depictions of women, as it relates to like representations of like sex, there's the violence, there's a lot of like gross, not good stuff in the second half of the movie. What I want to say is I'm standing on a limb here. Millipres and the Brutalist are the same fucking movie. They are. One is like, and one is like being hyped up all the art house like film bro guys and everyone's hating on Amelia Perez. Sorry, but both movies are kind of bad in similar ways. The Brutalist is like this really elevated art house movie that's very ambitious and is actually kind of bad and like misses the mark because of how ambitious it is. It's a good movie that's actually taken down by its ambition. Amelia Perez is a bad movie that is like raised by its ambition. Amelia Perez is not good. I'm going to probably like sit out these Oscars because I just like cannot find anything to root for here. I'm not a fan of either of the two lead movies. I mean, I'm hoping that like hoping Conclave makes a, you know, late push here. - A surprise run for it. - I really liked it, Nora. I'm, you know, I'm still on a Nora Island. You know, I still have to see the substance which I'm probably going to see this week. So those are my thoughts on those movies. I'm sorry I've been talking for 25 minutes, but. - Well, what I was going to say is like, I wouldn't count out because you said best supporting actress Zoe. - Listen, I think she's had an incredible career and she's great and deserves an Oscar at some point, but like the way the Oscars go, I'm kind of thinking it's going to be Isabela Rosalini for her 13 seconds. - 13 seconds. - Googling furiously in Conclave. - Yes, I genuinely think they're going to give it to her. They love, they love Isabela Rosalini. I think she's, I think she's going to win and everyone else just got lucky with their nominations. The reason I'm like interested in the Selena Gomez aspect is it's like, we have Selena Gomez in an Oscar nominated movie. We have Ariana Grande nominated for an Oscar nominated movie. And then we have Zendaya, snubbed. Like three teen queens who are like, even if Zendaya was snubbed for challengers, like still doing great things, like good for them, good for these Disney queens, I just have to say, for like surviving, being part of the mouse and now all making like, you know, maybe not entirely incredible art, but like interesting movies, interesting choices, I just give them snaps. - Best picture nominees, if you haven't read them there, they're Anora the Brutalist, a complete unknown Conclave, Dune part two, Amelia Perez. I'm still here, Nicole Boyes, the substance. - What's I'm still here? - It is a Brazilian, it's like a Brazilian movie about like a sad woman, like being sad and like being a victim of some like brutal garbage shit. - Yeah, okay. - Just hadn't heard about it. - The substance and wicked. - Challengers is a better movie than, challengers is a better movie than pretty much everything here, probably other than Anora and maybe Conclave. Like Anora Conclave and challengers are my three favorite movies of the year, unless I fucking love the substance, which I've still yet to see. - The substance is fun. I think Wicked was a really well-made movie. - It really was, I mean-- - It like doesn't belong in the same class, I'm not sure, but I think it was a real, like a real, it's hard to make a real crowd, please, they're like that. And that one, that one really hit it. - Oh, Wicked, I had a great time seeing what is frustrating to me and like has me a little bit despondent is like, my taste, excuse me, my taste this year, maybe it's a one year thing, but I'm like, I just am so turned off by the movies that are being like highly rewarded here. Like is my taste wrong? Probably not, I'm perfect. But I thought challengers was like one of the three best movies of the year. The two movies that are the front runners for the all the awards are the brutalist and Emilia Perez, both of which I just spent the last 15 minutes cropping on and saying that they're like completely like undone by their own completely crazy ambition. Ambitions great, but like these movies are not good and these movies are, Emilia Perez has already looked upon as like a bad movie and I think the brutalist in a number of years that people are gonna be like, I cannot believe we like thought this was, this was like my masterpiece. I haven't seen a bunch of these, one of my really good friends said of the brutalist, the brutalist is very like Paul Thomas Anderson killed like Brady Courbet who directed this film was like definitely watched there where we blow it a couple times. Yeah. And also wrote this movie with his wife. My friend said about the brutalist, the issue with making a Paul Thomas Anderson movie is Paul Thomas Anderson is also a good writer and the brutalist is not very well written at all. So we'll see stuff. Okay, how do you feel about Best Actress? Cynthia Rivo, Carla Sofia Gascón, Mikey Madison, Demi Moore, Fernandez Torres. I would have to give it, since I haven't seen I'm still here, Annora Armulipras, I'd have to give it to Cynthia. No, to Cynthia, 'cause Debbie, I think-- And you saw the substance, right? I did see it and I thought she was good, but like this, first of all, it's like a split. You know, it's her and Margaret Qualley. I wouldn't say she is the lead more than Margaret Qualley. And-- There's a lot of that this year. I wouldn't say that Carla Sofia Gascón is the lead more than Zoe Saldana. I wouldn't say that your boy, Kieran Colkin, we'll talk about later, is more, the movie, The Real Train, which we've seen together. (both laughing) Thank God, we saw it. That is true here. There's like, those guys are in an equal amount of the movie. I bet Jesse Ismore didn't even submit himself. He sure did. He wrote the movie. Yeah, he didn't wanna be the actor. He didn't wanna be the actor. I'm sure he's submit himself for like director, whatever. So-- I would give it to Cynthia, honestly, of all of these. Interesting. Even though I think, I think Debbie was fun. I think it was fun, but also like, so much of that movie is just disgusting and like the real winners of that, people who should win that movie, I think the director is like a star to watch for sure. But like, the special effects makeup team. Yeah. Sorry, but like, and she's good. This isn't Cynthia away from her. But like, Cynthia Arevo was also green and had to sing and had to make like a something that's already a famous piece of IP, like feel fresh and interesting, and she did that. So-- You think Cynthia Arevo and Zoe Saldana are gonna like, Spider-Man meme each other? Like, Cynthia Arevo's like, I had to paint myself green to win an Oscar. And Zoe Saldana is like, I had to take off the green makeup to win an Oscar. Maybe. Green makeup and blue makeup. Zoe Saldana had to be in so much makeup for so many of these movies. Yeah. She deserved an Oscar for center stage, way back when, if you ever saw that movie. But anyway, we need to talk best actor. Okay, I just love, I mean, I love the Sebastian Stan is an Oscar nominee. Sebastian Stan of Gossip Girl. Like, I'm just like loving the growth of so many of these performers. Speak about growth. Speaking about growth, I watched a different man the other day, one of the two movies that Sebastian Stan was submitted for. He was nominated for The Apprentice, the Donald Trump movie, which I refuse to see. And people are saying he should have been nominated for a different man, not this one. By all, I've read a lot about both films and I've spoken to many people who've seen both. The Apprentice is not a good movie, you know. It's bummer because like, the movie is like, is quite critical of Trump, which I think is why this movie is getting a bit of a awards play because like the sort of like older Rachel Maddow wing, like the like your liberal, your liberal parents who like love mayor Pete wing of the Academy. They're liberal, but like, not that liberal. They're like, anything that's like Trump is bad. You're like, they're like, wow, wow, what a thoughtful thing. But then also all the Trump people hate it 'cause it's like actually quite critical of him. Trump team hates it, like they don't like it. - So it was, it was hashtag great. - But the movie is apparently not very good and it's like very like surface level like, wow, this guy might not be a good guy. He might be a bit of a jerk. - Consider it, yeah. - Cool, we found that out the hard way twice. Where's our Ray Fiennes love, man? - Ray's might be a dark horse here. I mean, I have, I kind of, I don't know. There's something about Timothy Chalamet that like, I'm not gonna see this movie. I will never see a movie about Bob Dylan. I don't wanna learn anything about Bob Dylan. - I've already know too much about Bob Dylan. - Yeah, exactly. So I will not be seeing this. But there's something about his little goofy, to me, he's 19 years old. To me, he's like a little pipsqueak. I mean, there's something about him just like continuously getting Oscar nominations. But I'm like, you know what, work. Work, Timothy Chalamet. I don't think he has a chance. I don't think enough people are gonna see Sing Sing. I've heard of Sing Sing at least. It's not like, I'm still here. - I wanna check it out. It was released at a very weird time of the year. Like it came out in June. Like this is an Oscar movie. Put it out on like October 23rd. Put it out in November. Like put it on four screens. Make it on, make it streaming. - What are we doing here? - So I don't know. I don't know if Colman Domingo has a chance, but it's looking, it's gonna be like Adrian. It's Adrian Brody's year 'cause it's like a comeback or it's race. - Or I think we're might be Timothy. - I don't think it's Timothy at all. - Like I thought, you know, like Timothys like getting like the Anja new award. Like it was gonna be Mikey Madison. He gets like the Jennifer Lawrence, you know. - 'Cause he's also like being so charming out and about. - Oh yeah, he's out. He's doing the rounds. - He's hosting and singing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. - He's doing it all. - He's going on college football game day. - He's charming. I mean, he is really like J-law where it's like you're kind of, I'm kind of, there's an overexposure factor because he's in Dune, like Big Blockbuster's like Dune and Wonka and then he's going for the Oscar and he has to do all the press. So there's an overexposure factor, but it's like same with J-law. Even if I'm like, oh, I'm sick of you, whenever I actually see them, I'm like, oh, you're very talented actually. - I love you. - That's a good, yeah, that's a good call. I feel the same way. Best supporting actress Monica Barbero, complete or Barbaro, a complete unknown. I just completely unknown how I pronounced her last name. Ariana Grande, Wicked, Felicity Jones, the brutalist, woof, what a performance. Isabella Russellina for about four seconds of Conclave and Zoe Saldania for me. Like it's just crazy. Zoe Saldania is like the lead of fucking Amelia Perez. Ariana Grande is the co-lead of Wicked. Isabella Russellina, God bless her. What a great career. She's in four seconds of that movie and-- - I was just gonna say, two of those seconds she's like giving a look. - Why'd they cast her? They could have cast me. Oh my God, I'm gonna tell them that. I could have set up a computer. - She would have like a day player role. - It would have been the same movie if it was me in the Nuns Habit, okay? - I would have loved it. - I would have loved it. I would have liked it even more. - That would have been such a treat for the Hadley Heads if it was like me in that movie. I don't know. I am happy to hear that Felicity Jones is like doing something worthwhile. Felicity Jones is in the same bucket for me as Daisy-- - That's not called this performance. Let's not call this performance something worthwhile until you've seen it, please. - Is it good or not? - No, it's bad. - Oh, it's bad. - It's bad, it's bad. - I thought you said like, wow, like, what a great, like, oh, she blew me away. - No, Felicity Jones is like is I think like awful in this movie. - Well then she gives it her all. - She gives it her all, but I think that part and her performance are like, is rough. It is rough. - Well, then she is so in the Daisy Edgar Jones. What's with these British brunette Joneses-- - Get out of here. - Who don't have rims. - Keeping up with the Joneses. - Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I don't know. I kind of want Ariana to win. I'm kind of like rooting for him. - You just wanna win. - You just wanna win. - Yeah. - We've only seen one movie. - Best supporting actor, Kieran Ed Norton, Guy Pierce, Jeremy, I'm dying for Jeremy Strong to win. I'm dying, just to have this thing. - I'm just dying for, I just want to see what silly little suit he's gonna wear. - Yeah, exactly. - And you know he's not gonna wear a normal suit. - No, he's not doing normal anything. And we love that. We appreciate that. This is entertainment industry. Entertain me. - I have an issue with this category. I don't have an issue with this category. I think it's good nominations, pretty much for the most part. I am completely just confused as to why Kieran Colkin is the runaway front runner. And it's like, it just like closed the book on this. He's won every single award. A Real Pain is another highly mid movie. And Kieran Colkin plays Roman Roy just not wearing a suit. - I'm not a V-O, yeah. - It is literally the exact same performance that he gives in a much better television show that he's already been rewarded with an Emmy for. Is he good? Sure. But my letterbox review for this movie was like, it is the, I'm only repeating it out loud because it is part of the "Hey, Julie" lore, which is, that movie is the, oh my God, she's so crazy. Love her. Me. But a movie. And it's just like, every scene Kieran Colkin's like, wow, I'm crazy. And everyone on the tour with him is like, wow, he's crazy, he won a guy. He's like, we're, like. - But it's lovable and it is like touching. - Yeah, I don't know. - Slightly touching. - My, my thing here is I got two, I got two people who I want. First of all, I'm crazy about the brutalist. Guy Pierce is actually really good at the brutalist. - He's doing everything. - He's good in everything. - That was good. - He just made his flowers. And he's like, like, he just like does like a weird voice and he's just like really good in it. - Yeah. - I wouldn't say his character is likable, but I'm just like, this guy's in a lot of this movie and he's just like playing like, yeah, he's, yeah, he's, it's an interesting character for him. And he's, he's someone who like has these really charming good looks and he's more, but he's more of like a character actor and I thought he was really good in this movie. You're a bore us off in "Anora". This guy, this guy's amazing. This movie is, this movie is so much fun. This movie is so much fun. And this guy, you see this guy walk in about 35, 40 minutes into this movie. And he's caught, and this character is really interesting that he plays because the character is very quiet, but you're like, what does this guy's deal? What is this guy's deal, the whole movie? And there's a payoff with it and he becomes increasingly more a part of the movie. But this guy is amazing and in a year where the Oscars, I just don't find a lot of like, rootable stories here. You're a bore us off. Is the man, that movie is good and he's awesome in it. And I'm glad he's been not, but there's, there's so many weirdo performances in that movie. And he has like this kind of like, quiet, strength performance that I just, I really liked. - I mean, we're talking about best supporting actor. I just, we've already touched on it, but like, I am very surprised that two of my little white boys from challengers didn't get, no one got anything. Like that seems like very much, very strong, supporting actor, either of them, but nothing. Snubbed. Do you think North Carolina was snubbed? - I thought it got a number of below the line things, cinematography, costume design. - When I look at best actor. - Production design, makeup and hairstyling, like, I think that's right. I mean, I think Nosferatu is better than, is better than the brutalist, better than Amelia Perez, like probably better than a complete unknown. So I don't think it, yeah, couldn't have been dominated for more for like best picture and stuff. Yeah, sure. But like, I think, I think where it's shook out is probably right for it. - I think it would have been fun for Lily Rose to get a little nomination as a show. - And Bill. - Yeah, Bill did, Bill did was what Bill does. I mean-- - Best, you were the best supporting actor, you just became nominated. How many are out there? - Yeah, totally, why not? - That's the thing out with Ed Norton. - Yeah, it's an unins, I'd say it's an uninspiring year. But I mean, yeah, there's not a lot of fun, just like fun. That's why I'm kind of rooting for Wiki, 'cause it was fun. And I'm kind of rooting for the substance, 'cause at least it was like LOL. I haven't seen a lot of these. I'm gonna be in a plane for the Oscars this year. And you know what, I might be fine with it. I think like having to watch three hours of like movies that I don't like get rewarded. I don't think I'm gonna find that fun. I think I might just like watch "The Martian" on my iPad. - Yeah, I still, there's still a lot of stuff. - Maybe a lot more to speak about it. - I need to see. I still have to watch "Night Bitch." - I don't think "Night Bitch" was snubbed. - I'll be watching it. - A couple of other movies. - Okay, fine. - I'm gonna talk about some other movies that were not nominated. Oh, we're always going with a different man. I got completely sidetracked talking about the apprentice. Sebastian Stan in "A Different Man" shows "Dong." He goes full most for out too in that movie. So I'm just saying, if a girlies like Sebastian, then they're gonna stand the man. - I do like him. I really liked his speech when he won at "The Golden Globes." I thought it was very refreshing. It kind of like, it made me think like he'd be great on the traitors, like he just had a very cute. - Oh yeah. - Like, I don't know, his speech was just, it was good. - And he won for "A Different Man" too. He won for a movie that wasn't even nominated. - Yeah, and there was something about his speech where I was like, oh, that really shows some Cajones, but I don't remember at the moment what it was about. - Well, he shows his Cajones in "A Different Man." I'm just like, just like to point out male nudity, whatever, like it's, you know, it's unfair. I don't know if men show, show "Dong." In the pictures, all right, Danielle, it's time. It's time to go in the time machine to two different times, one, the year 1975. The other time, the year 2005, 2006, to talk about "Saturday Night," live from New York. It's Saturday night. - Live from New York. It's Saturday night. - You texted me about this movie like two or three weeks ago and I was bored this week. I was like, I gotta check out this movie. I gotta see what it's about. And boy, boy is this movie. Pretty mid. - Okay, so I watched this movie on the plane going to Arizona. - Oh, yes. - As soon as I finished watching it, we landed on a Godzilla service. I texted Brett saying he had to watch it. It was like this movie, Brett called it mid. No, this movie's not mid. This movie is like top of the list, "A Number One," like if you're in a Julie head, this is what you need to watch and laugh about. Like, it's so, it's like extremely enjoyable. I'll never watch it again, but it's so enjoyable because it hits all the notes that Brett and I love to hate on. It's like, I think I said like, it's like Erin Sorkin had a Nepo baby who wrote a movie. Like, that's what it feels like. - No, exactly. It is, that is exactly my thought about the movie. It's like Erin Sorkin had a nephew who has unlimited access to all of Erin Sorkin's toolkit. - Right. - And his portfolio. - Can sit down with him anytime. - Yeah. - But the only thing that this nephew watched was Studio 60. I'm not so sure. - Yes. - It's like no lessons were learned. - It's like whoever made this movie must have been young enough where they didn't even know who Studio 60 on the "SungSung" strip, like that was before their time. - Because someone was old enough to watch it. They would be like, wow, this is a lot like incredibly unsuccessful shows to be on the "SungSung" strip. - Why didn't we make a movie like this? - We already made 24 episodes of a TV show about like, what is your making a sketch comedy show where the noblest pursue, the noblest pursuit. - I'm like so serious. - It's funny because in 2006, another show premiered, it's called "30 Rock" and was like, actually working on one of these shows is the stupidest thing anyone could possibly do for a living and all of us are stupid clowns who deserve to live stupid clown lives. - Yeah. - And guess which one is good? - Yeah. - "30 Rock" is incredible. I watched "30 Rock" last night. - Yeah. - "30 Rock" is never exiting the pantheon and it's like Studio Who on the Sunset, what? - Yeah, it's like, if you wanna watch episodes of that, you better get like, access to be or something because it's not easy to find. - Do you feel 60 and this movie are both like, have scenes where someone's like, it's not a skit, it's a sketch and like, fully fucking meaning it? Grow up. - Like this, yeah. - I, yeah. - I wanna say that this movie missed the, missed its time where like, I'm trying to think like, who would have taken this movie? Who's gonna take this movie seriously? And it's like, you know, teenagers who are in long form improv classes, but like, I don't know if teenagers are even still doing long form improv classes. Like, I think that Pete didn't, it's over. - No, they're just tick-tocking. - They're just tick-tocking and smoking their vapes. - No, I had the sex. - Yeah, exactly. They're hitting the vape. So I don't, I just don't, I was truly watching. I was like, I, the only people this movie is horror is me and Brett, because like, they're the only people who are gonna appreciate. - It wasn't for me. - Yes, it was. We're the only people who can appreciate this movie for what it is, which is it's such garbage that you have to hate watch and like, can only bond with like, people who have done improv, who know or who have watched Studio 60 and know that, or if I was Aaron Sorkin, I'm like, how stupid it is. Because like, yes, there's a scene where like, the head writer of SNL, the original head writer, like has a showdown with like, the frumpy, - Standards and practices woman. - Standards and practices lady. And it's like, we're supposed to be, we're supposed to be like rooting for the head writer, SNL, to like, take this lady down. I was like, I fucking hate this guy. He's disgusting. She's just doing her job. Like they try to make it like, she's this puritanical thing. And he like, dunks on her by being like, God's not real or whatever. - Yeah, so bad. - It's so bad. - Like, it's very sore compelled in that way. Like it's very like, she like, she makes, you know, she decides what words are safe for television, like using her religion as a guide. And it's like, I'm like the most atheistic person, like you like, possible who like, it's like hates when religion butts into stuff. And I'm like, this is like so overly mean to this woman for no reason. - It's so mean. That guy was mean. I was like, this guy sucks. They shouldn't have included this guy in the show. - What I will say about this movie, I didn't care for this movie very much. - No, it's so bad. I'm saying it's bad, but you had to see it. - I had to see it. - Okay. - I actually wanna commend the casting of this movie. I thought, I'm not a fan of the main guy, the guy who played Lauren. I thought he was bad, the one who played baby, baby Sien, Spielberg as well. - Oh yes, movie I walked out of. - Yeah, this guy got one move in his pocket and he's like, I played the younger version of very famous boomers. - Very famous, yeah. Okay. - I thought he was kind of rough. And I thought that partner character was like, it was a really rough right for that one. But I thought the casting of like all the like, famous people, like the guy who played Chevy Chase, the guy who played Dannock or the girl who played Jane Curtain. I thought the girl who played Gilder Radner was not given enough to do. - I just felt bad for her because like people-- - Boy, I was like kind of massive crush on her. But like, and all, you know, Lamar Morris who played Garrett Morris. - Garrett Morris, yeah. - Like, I thought everyone was like, this isn't an exact impression, but it's like the vibe of that person. And I thought all of the people who played the original cast members and then like, I didn't even know this that like Billy Crystal was like, I don't think he was on the cast, but he was kind of like around. The guy who played Billy Crystal was amazing. My guy, my guy Matthew Reese from the Americans playing George Carlin was amazing. He was so fucking good. He should just make the George Carlin bile face the same guy. I just thought, I thought the casting in the performances was like, baby, maybe Hoffman. Baby, Seymour Hoffman was really great at Dick Eversole. I thought he was really good. 'Cause we didn't really see him in "Likarish Pizza." And I really liked that movie, but it's like the performances were kind of what, I mean, it was all about a lot of hype in that movie. But it's like, this is a very different performance than the one he gives in "Likarish Pizza." And I'm like, is he Philip Seymour Hoffman? No, he's not gonna reach those highs. But I thought he was really good in this movie. - No, he's good. And you can't help it like him. - This movie was less than the sum of its parts. All the performances, other than the lead, were, I thought really amazing. The editing, the music, it was really a propulsive movie that was completely weighed down by the most self-righteous, apocryphal script. I know, I'm not sure what happened tonight of October 11th, 1975. I'm 100% sure everything that happened in that movie did not happen. It is a complete lie of how those events happened. It would be an actual performance of "Saturday Night Live." - Disagree with you. In that, I found the, not saying it technically wasn't good, but I just sound like the camera work, the music choices. Like, all of that, I actually thought was bad in that it was, it all just felt like a funnier die spoof of what this movie was, right? Like, it's hard to, like, these are the choices that you would make if you were making a smooth, a smooth movie with this type of movie. So I can't say I thought that those were good choices. And technically, yeah, they were executed with a flourish. Sure. And yes, I thought the cast, like give them their flowers. No, I have no issues with the cast. It was just like the self-seriousness of this movie that's like, wow, you know, it was the most important night of all time, of all time, the night comedy was born. And it's like, no, it wasn't. I'm sorry. Like, I'm just like, I'm sorry. It's so hard to just, to, they shouldn't have taken it so seriously is all I can say. And, but I'm so happy I watched it. And I'm so happy you watched it too. - I thought about you the whole time. I gotta talk about one other movie that you mentioned on this pod a couple weeks ago. Jirr? - Oh, yes. - Number two. - Number two. - Ladies, you gotta power through Jirr number one to get to Jirr number two. I only have two things to say about this movie. I did not like it nearly as much as other people did, which was like, oh, this is like a really solid, like B plus like legal drama. I thought this movie was like kind of silly and bad. I just need to say two things. At four points in this movie, Jirr number two's only move is like, I guess I gotta drop a piece of paper on the floor. (laughs) - I gotta gotta drop my silver coin on the coal before. I guess I gotta spill these pens on the floor. Anytime it's like he's about to get caught. He's like, I guess I gotta, that's his only move. - That's a good move. It works out for him. - It works out every single time, but you wouldn't maybe just some more creativity with the moves Jirr number two. - But how much creativity are we expecting? - More. - Clench needs to go home. Clench needs to go home, okay. - Number two, you get me on some other stuff. Number two, in the middle of this movie, there is a scene. And at the end of the scene, the bailiff, let's all the jurors go from the day. And the bailiff is like, by the way, everyone, happy Halloween. And then the next scene, the bailiff goes to one of the lawyers and it's like, hey, I gotta tell you about the thing that happened in the jury, whatever, today. By the way, happy Halloween, Halloween is tonight. And then the next scene, it's Halloween for no reason. They're dressed up, Jirr number two and his wife are dressed up like American Gothic, the painting. - We just look great couples, great couples. - Great couples costume. - Great couples costume. - Sure, and they're just like having a normal marital dispute scene and they open the door and like a little vampire is there and they give him candy. And then the movie just goes on, there's no point for any of these things to happen on Halloween. There's no reference because there's a scene that like the little vampire is like a former student, like elementary school student of the wife. And it's like, none of that comes back into it that we had to meet this kid who was a vampire for four minutes, just like happy Halloween, by the way, like it's Halloween for no reason. And then we never come back to it. - They have just amazing, amazing work from Clint. - I think it's 'cause Clint looked at Nicholas Holt and said, you know who you look like to me? The man from American Gothic. We're gonna write that into the movie. (laughs) Get you in costume. - This movie, oh yeah, sorry, go for it. - I don't think you can say this movie was bad. This movie is enjoyable, this movie is mid. This movie is like a totally enjoyable watch. You can't say it's bad, especially when you consider how old the director and writer is. We have to account for the fact that like, how is Cliff at 90? (laughs) How is Cliff hog at 90? Writing such an amazing, like honestly, when you consider that factor, this movie was amazing. This movie is incredible. This is like incredible. - I haven't seen every clip. I haven't seen every Clint movie. - I haven't seen every Clint movie. - I can't guarantee you. If they made an Oscars for only movies directed by 90 year olds, this would sweep. - Sweet. (laughs) - You're not getting better than this. - I haven't seen every Clint movie. I get really like, I don't know how well any of these movies are gonna be remembered. But I hope like a hundred years from now, when like a society is living on a space station, two things survive, and they are like in conversation with each other, which is all of the scenes with juror number two and his wife, and all of like the marital scenes in American sniper with like the fake baby in it, because this man's portrayal of like American suburban, like marriage life, they are insane. Just the way like the couples talk to each other, every scene of like marital life between juror number two and his wife, his pregnant wife, and it's just insane. I don't know why people talk to each other like this. They're so poorly acted. At least the baby was real in this movie. And so the fake baby in American sniper, but these scenes with Nicholas Hall and Zoey Doge need to be studied because they are so insane. - No, and it's also like where you really see Clint's age is the script of these people because it's like, they live in a house. I mean, where is it? Charleston, Savannah? - They're like Charleston or Savannah or something like that. Yeah, Savannah Georgia. - They live in a beautiful house where like he is an out-of-work local columnist, like local writer, but he doesn't have a lot of work. And she was like a kindergarten teacher or something, but she's not working at the moment. - She's pregnant, she's like, yes. - They're about to have a kid. They're not concerned about finances at all. - I mean, this is why people live in Georgia or Arizona. Like I think you and I are concerned about finances 'cause it will be living in metropolitan cities. - No, I'm sorry. If you're writing, if you're like a contractor writer for a local news outlet, you're making like two, if you're lucky, $200 a week. I'm sorry, no. - There's also a part in this movie that I found very confusing at first because like a very like non-important spoiler for a movie. She's pregnant, but she's pregnant, and she's about to give birth, but she was pregnant the year prior and had like a late miscarriage or something like that. And there's a part in this movie where he's looking at his calendar on his computer, his desktop computer at his job at the whatever newspaper, and it says due date 2021, October 2021. And I'm like, why does this movie take place in 2021? I didn't realize until later that that's actually the original, the first due date of the origin of like, not the, like his children that were supposed to be born, the twins that had the miscarriage and past or whatever. And the timeline made sense, but for a while, I'm like, why the fuck is this movie taking place in 2021? Why do they make references to the end of this movie and take place in 2021? And then it's Halloween. It's time to get with this movie. There's just all sorts of weird details in this movie. You're like, what? It's a timeline. Was anybody made this movie or what? No, but you know what, that was a point, and maybe Thomas brought this up. I'm not sure, but it was like, this movie could have taken place in any year. Like you didn't really need cell phones. You didn't really need like, all you needed was like the invention of the automobile. 'Cause otherwise it's just like-- And the invention of having pockets and then being able to drop something out of them. 'Cause that is my man's, you know, so many different people have different moves. I'm gonna throw a drawing round. I'm gonna try it. Any meeting that's going poorly, just drop, drop, drop, pen cover your face. It might work. Okay, we have to stop. We gotta go. We gotta go. We're at 62. We loved this. We had just so much fun. So much fun. Thank you. We'll be back. We'll be back maybe next week. Maybe not. See what else? I'll try to watch the substance. We'll see. Okay. This is fun. This is fun. I'm gonna try to watch the night pitch. Okay, we'll watch those movies. It was fun. So fun. Listen to us. Would you are Discord. Hey, Julie on the Discord. Look at that link in the app. Yes, hop traders. Hey, Julie, bigbrother@gmail.com. We'll be back with more podcasts eventually. Okay, love you. Bye, Julie. Bye, Julie. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (chiming) [BLANK_AUDIO]

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