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Medal Of Honor Monday featuring Army vet Sgt. John Druse "Bud" Hawk

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23 Jul 2024
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The Decono Music and Spirits Festival returns to Centennial Park Saturday, August 3rd from 2 to 10 p.m. And it's free! Live music from The Warren Treaty! Chris Daniels and the Kings is Cally and More! Enjoy a Spirits Competition, Kids Zone and Fireworks presented by Oxy and the City of D'Cono! Admission and parking are free! The Decono Music and Spirits Festival brought to you by Breckenridge Brewery and City of D'Cono. Go to thecityofdecono.com for more information. This is a podcast from WOR. It is the Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday. It's so good to be back. Now I should do this before we get to Medal of Honor Monday, which I'm going to get to. And we're going to get to all this Secret Service testimony and stuff like that from the stuff from today. I do need to give you a couple little notes here and you're going to be mad about all of them. It's not my fault. Well, for the most part, it's not my fault, all right? You know, I was gone last Friday because I was traveling. I just want, I just want you to know, July, as far as my show, as far as doing shows goes, it's a nightmare. So here it is. I'm just laying it out for you. You can yell and scream. There's very little I can do about it. I won't be here Friday. Why won't I be here Friday? I, this one's my fault. This one's my fault. I am having a 20 year reunion with my Marine Corps brothers. We are renting a house on a lake here in Texas. We're just going to go grill up some burgers, catch up on old times. We're having a Marine Corps reunion, so I won't be here on Friday. That's on me. Obviously. I can't blame that on anyone else. Next week, I will not be here Monday through Wednesday. I'll be back on Thursday. All right, I'll be back on Thursday Monday through Wednesday. I'll be gone. I'll be gone. It's not my fault. I have been called out of town by the suits to do suit things that these are all good things you should know. No, I'm not in any trouble. These are these are very, very good things. Yeah, I'm not in trouble, Chris. I'm really not. These are very, very good things that mean good things for the future of the show. So you're, you're, you're sacrificing three days of the show for a longer, better future of the show. I'll just put it to you that way. So look, after this, it should be okay. After this, until Christmas time, I don't foresee really anything else coming up. July is just a bad month. All right. All right. Now, time for Medal of Honor Monday. Every single Monday at this time, we do the exact same thing. We take a Medal of Honor citation and we read it. I said this before to you, but I'm going to say it again. All these are available online and I got a bunch of emails last time saying, where do we go? Where do we go? Where do we go? Just put it in an internet search, the Congressional Medal of Honor Society. I know that they have a website, but there are many, many websites where you can find all these online for free. I don't have some special radio access just because I'm an oracle. I don't have any of that. You can do this with your family. Just print them off and read them. I guess I don't have to date myself. You don't have to print them off. I guess you can read them right off of your phone or iPad or computer, whatever you're doing it on, but anyone can do these. And we take email suggestions. If you have ones you like or ones that have some relation to you, this one is, well, we got this email, what, back in December. Jesse, in honor of my grandfather, Milton Pence, who was a bar operator serving in the corps and shot multiple times during the battle of filet's pocket and taken prisoner. German command gave the order to execute the prisoners prior to the German retreat from the pocket. A German doctor saved my grandfather's life by hiding him in a wagon under a pile of straw. He was later discovered by advancing GIs. Milton was awarded a bronze star and a purple heart for his actions in honor of all the men who served during the battle of the filet's pocket. I request that you read the Medal of Honor citation for John Drew's Budhock. And for my grandfather, please let the bar eat. His name is Kai. Bar for you civilian types is a browning, automatic rifle, a heavy machine gun that was used widely used in World War II. So without further ado, U.S. Army, let's dig into it. Right. Hey. I'm honoring those who went above and beyond its Medal of Honor Monday. John Drew's Budhock. He manned a light machine gun on the 20th of August 1944 near Shambo, France, a key point in the encirclement which created the filet's pocket. I know I'm saying that wrong, by the way. During an enemy counter attack, his position was menaced by a strong force of tanks and infantry. His fire forced the infantry to withdraw, but an artillery shell knocked out his gun, wounded and wounded him in the right thigh. Securing a bazooka, he and another man stalked the tanks and forced them to retire to a wooded section. In the law which followed, Sergeant Hawk reorganized two machine gun squads and, in the face of intense enemy fire, directed the assembly of one workable weapon from two damaged guns. When another enemy assault developed, he was forced to pull back from the pressure of spearheading armor. Two of our tanks were brought up. Their shots were ineffective because of the terrain until Sergeant Hawk, despite his wound, boldly climbed to an exposed position on a knoll where, unmoved by the fuselage of enemy, he became a human aiming stake for destroyers. Realizing that his shouted fire directions could not be heard above the noise of battle, he ran back to the destroyers through a concentration of bullets and shrapnel to correct the range. He returned to his exposed position, repeating this performance until two of the tanks were knocked out and a third driven off. Still at great risk, he continued to direct the destroyers fire into the German's wooded position until the enemy came out and surrendered. Sergeant Hawk's fearless initiative and heroic conduct, even while suffering from a painful wound, was in large measure responsible for crushing two desperate attempts of the enemy to escape from the fillet's pocket and for taking more than 500 prisoners. How about that? An aiming stake may be confusing for some. Just know that we have these in mortars. You know, I was a mortarman. I was in the infantry and they made me a mortarman. You, when you join the infantry, at least back when I joined, I don't know if it's still this way, you didn't get to pick what your specific MOS, what your specific job was in the infantry. You just joined in the infantry and then they put you wherever they wanted you. They made me a mortarman. We used aiming stakes. And no, I'm not going to bore you with all the nerdy details on it. Just know that there's stakes you put out in front of the mortar. So just a white stake, think four or five feet tall, a white stake stuck in the ground, putting it out in front of the mortar. And what happens is the mortar itself, it has a sight on it. I had a 60 millimeter mortar. It has a sight on it. What are you looking at? Because most of the time, not all the time, but most of the time with mortar fire, it's indirect fire, meaning I can't see who the enemy is. He's over a hill where he's somewhere there. So fire is called in someone who can see calls in the fire and then adjustments are made. And what you aim at, what you go off is the stakes that are out in front of you. You make the adjustments. I adjust the weapon looking at the stake in front of me. That's what an aiming stake is. To be a human aiming stake would be a very, very, very dangerous bit of business. And that is a very brave man right there. All right. Now, we need to get to the secret service talk. You should know, though, just one final word on dome. Probably not the final word, but another word on dome. Another way you can tell that she's the chosen one for the system. She just shattered a record in 24 hours of fundraising dollars. Over 80 million dollars raised in 24 hours. How does that happen? Well, obviously, it's not dome's winning personality. It's not like she was burning up the phones, calling all these people that she called. Did she call some? Of course she did. How did that happen? Well, it happened because all that money was ready to go prepped and ready to go as soon as Joe left. And that was part of the conversation as well. That's how you know she's been chosen. Don't listen to anybody who says it's up in the air. And look, I understand there are people who are at least saying this. And it's not a stupid thought. It's just incorrect. There are people saying, she's, she's on a trial run herself. She has to get the poll numbers better or what. Listen, we are three months from the election. There's that three months for three months and change. I realize that. But August, September, October, then there's an election. There are four people in the United States of America by my count who have a presidential campaign set up to run. Michelle Obama, courtesy of Joe, Joe or courtesy of Barack. She's not running. Clinton, because she's done it many times before. Gavin Newsom, because he was preparing for this and Kamala Harris. Newsom has already come out and backed Kamala Harris. Hillary's not running. Michelle has announced she's not running unless she changes her mind, which as we talked about they do. It's going to be Kamala Harris because there's no longer time to switch again. She's the one. That's it. That's what she's got. That's what they've got. 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Go to my pillow.com. Click on the Radio Lister special square. Use the promo code Jesse. My pillow.com promo code Jesse or you can call 800-845-0544. We'll be back. Missed those. Catch up. It is the Jesse Kelly show on a Monday. Oh, it's so good to be back. You can email me Jesse at jessiekellyshow.com. I don't care what it is. Send me an email. Don't forget if you miss any part of the show, you can podcast it. It's easy. It's free. I heart, Spotify, iTunes. One more word on dome because then it's time to talk about the secret service stuff. In fact, I should probably tell you the playing bathroom story too. I don't want to. I know Chris. I don't want to. I probably shouldn't, but I'm gonna. One more word on dome. Have you ever heard of imposter syndrome? I could say right now that it's a real thing, but what's a real thing? It's something a bunch of shrinks have decided is a real thing. So it is what it is, but imposter syndrome. You know that montage of dome laughing that we play from time to time? Oh gosh, okay, I can't take it anymore. You know what that is, right? That's nervous laughter. Here's a story for you. This is not my scoop. This is a different someone else came up with this, but it's true story. Do you know this? Kamala Harris. She was scheduled to have a big fancy fundraising dinner. And she was so nervous because Joe Biden wasn't going to be there. She was so nervous about heading up this dinner that her staffers set up a rehearsal dinner with staffers sitting there pretending to be the big shots so she could talk to them. Kamala Harris has imposter syndrome in the worst possible way. She's never been vetted. She sailed through California politics. She got her start because of Willie Brown and you know the background on that story. And from there, she sailed through California politics really without ever being vetted or torn up or anything like that because she was the, I don't know what she is. She used to claim to be an Indian American. Now she claims black. It doesn't matter, but she was a minority Democrat woman. And that's basically royalty in California. And so they just kind of gave her everything without destroying her and being a minority Democrat woman. That's what got her VP. But she's not ready for prime time. And you know, who knows that better than anyone else? Her. She's not ready for prime time. You ever been given a job. You don't know how to do it. I have many, many times in my life. One, because my dad thought that was hilarious, but I have many, many times in my life. And that's a bad feeling, isn't it? You ever had to do something. And you don't know what you're doing. You don't know how to do it. That's where she's at. She has imposter syndrome bad. All right, now I'm going to tell you, I just want to get this airplane bathroom story out of the way first. And I know it's not a story I should tell, but feel like I owe you honesty. And I feel like my suffering generally brings you joy, which doesn't speak highly of you, but it generally brings you joy. So here it is. You know how I had to fly to Milwaukee last week. There we had a stomach bug going around our house. It was a 24 hour stomach bug. Maybe you've had it. From what I understand, it's been going around the country big time. Wife got it. Kids got it. Eventually I got it. And it took a different form with whoever got it. But just understand it was a 24 hour bug. Really, really bad. But after 24 hours, you're going to suffer. Yeah, I don't know which end it's going to come out of, but you're going to suffer for 24 hours. And then you'll come out of it. Okay, not a big deal. Okay, wife gets it. Kids gets it. I never got it. I'm happy about this. I flew to Milwaukee on Monday of last week. Oh, Chris, it gets better. Just stay with me. I am on my way to the airport. I don't pack bags or I don't pack bags. I don't check luggage. You should know, unless it's something like a two week vacation, I do not check luggage. So I've got two carry ons. I've got a backpack to carry on. I'm totally fine, completely healthy. And I'm sailing through the airport. I'm almost to the gate and my stomach doesn't feel good. It really, really does not feel good. And I don't mean a little bit of discomfort, like a stabbing kind of pain in my lower, lower, lower stomach. Okay, well, you know, everyone who's listened to this show for any length of time understands full well that I do not do public restrooms if it can be avoided. I don't want to sound like a big weenie germaphobe. I really don't, but I've used these restrooms fellas. I see how gross you are not washing your hands. People treat public restrooms terribly. They pee all over. I'm just grossed out by the very concept of public restrooms. You've heard this. If you've listened to the show before, I don't like it. I do it if I absolutely have to, but I'll bend over backwards to avoid using a public restroom for number two purposes. Obviously, I'll go use a urinal whenever I'm a dude, right? But I'm just, I don't want to go sit down on a public toilet. Okay. So that's the lead up to this. Now, we're getting ready to get on a plane in Houston and fly to Milwaukee. The plane itself, I am sitting in first class, not to brag, but it's just one of those tiny little planes, don't worry. It's not fancy where in first class on one side of the aisle, there's only one seat on the other side of the aisle. There's two seats. That's how tiny this plane is. So this is a really, really, really tiny plane. My feeling in my stomach goes away at the gate. So I think I'm probably good to go. Then we board the plane. I will finish my story in just a moment before we do that. 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We'll be back. It is the Jesse Kelly show on a Monday. It's so good to be back. I'm going to get to the Secret Service stuff in a moment. In case you're just now joining us, I'm relaying something absolutely horrible, devastating that happened to me last week. Quick recap for you. Stomach flu was going through our house. A stomach bug of some kind. I ended up being fine. Wife kids were bad, but then I got off scot free. I'm getting on a plane, a very, very tiny plane. A tiny, tiny plane was united from Houston to Milwaukee last week. And the pain hits me as I'm about to get on the plane. Now, you know, I'm not going to use the airport bathroom if I can be avoided. So I tough it out. I sit down. It's a couple hours from Houston to Milwaukee. And I'm fine for most of the flight. I do have a couple of times the stabbing, searing pain comes back to me. But I'm sitting there. I'm sweating. And I know, look, airplane bathrooms are tiny anyway. This plane. I'm not sure if I can even fit in it. Remember, I'm six, eight. I am six foot eight. And I've watched people try to squeeze themselves in and out of this bathroom the whole time. So it's bad, but I'm making it by. I'm making it through. And then we begin our descent. You know how they tell you, your descent's 20, 30 minutes. We start our descent. And the pain comes back. Only this pain. It wasn't just visiting. This pain stayed. And it started to hurt really, really, really bad. And now even if I wanted to get up and use the restroom, which I'm not joking, I'm praying at this point in time. Not that I'm against praying or something like that. I try to pray as much as possible. But I am sitting in my seat, praying to myself, please, Lord, let this go away. God, please, I'm asking, please let this go away. This is what I'm doing in my airplane seat. This is how much I'm dreading it. Seatbelt sign is on. So I'm not even allowed to get up. And we are slowly, slowly descending into Milwaukee. We finally landed Milwaukee and I am starting to sweat. That's how much pain I am in physical agony in my lower stomach. Okay, that's fine. It's fine. It's fine. We're going to get there. And I'm just going to have to use the airport bathroom. Just just just what's fine. We're already landed. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it. We start driving up to the gate. We're on the plane. Plane stops. Okay, why are we stopped? It's another five minutes while another plane is getting ready to leave. Then we pull up to where the jetway is and they begin to pull the jetway out towards the plane. And I'm watching this like a hawk because I need this jetway on the plane and I need it on the plane right now because I am about to have a problem here on this plane. That is the kind of desperation that I'm in right now. The jetway gets three feet from the plane and stops moving. They have mechanical problems. Now they've at least turned off the fastened seatbelt sign because we're stopped. We're not going to move. Everyone has stood up. I have both of my carry on bags with me and I'm sitting there thinking to myself, I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it. But the jetway has stopped and it's not freaking moving and I'm looking and I'm trying not to be desperate because you can't be honest in that moment with everybody. It's not like you can start sharing your troubles with everyone around you. You're suffering and silence. It's not like you can yell at the store this. Hey, store this. It's about to be a mess back here. If they don't hurry up, you're stuck. And it stays stuck. And it stays stuck. And it stays stuck. And I know I should point out, I know that people recognized me on this flight. Of course, it's a Houston flight. We're going to the Republican convention in Milwaukee. How many people are on that plane who recognized me? So, of course, I'm known at this point. Finally, the stewardess comes on the air and just in the most pleasant way possible. She says, "Hey, sorry folks. Looks like they're having a little technical problem with the jetway. They're working on it right now. They said it's not going to be more than 10 or 15 minutes." I don't have 10 or 15 minutes. I just don't have it. Did I clarify that the aisle is full of people? We've all stood up. We've all gotten our bags. And the bathroom is at the front of the plane. Obviously, that's where the line begins. And so, I, as casually sounding as humanly possible. Oh, yeah. Sweating, Chris. Sweating. And it was visibly sweating to the point where I would touch my forehead. And you could see the shine on my fingers and the sweat. And I still had to try to play it, go. I set my bags down on the chair. And I said, "Well, I mean, as long as we're stuck here, I'm going to use the restroom real quick." I have to tell two people to move so I can get by them. Go into the airplane bathroom. I sit down. My knees are touching the door. I'm facing the door when I sit down and my knees are touching the door. And with people five inches away, there's a one inch door between me and the people. People five inches away. I get sick on an airplane bathroom that's so tiny and that people have been using for two hours. I don't know that I've ever been this humiliated. And to make it even worse, I'm just sharing my pain with you. To make it even worse, I don't feel like I can finish and then leave the bathroom and face the people who are right outside the door because it's going to be very obvious. Hey, where did that talk? I go, didn't he disappear into the bathroom ten minutes ago? So I had to sit there with my knees buried into the airplane bathroom door. It felt like 90 minutes. I'm sure it was 10 minutes. I had to sit there and listen until everyone had de-plained so I could get up and wash my hands and leave the bathroom with somehow slightly less embarrassment than I had otherwise. It was a living hell. What, Chris? What? Chris, who knows what they thought, right? They might have thought I was doing drugs. You know what? I hope they did think I was doing drugs. It would be better than if they knew the actual truth of what was happening. I've never been more embarrassed. I'm mortified in my life. I'm mortified beyond belief. And the only thing that made this at all worth it was I did get to tell the wife because she was so horrified and embarrassed. It actually made it at least slightly funny. That's what I was going through for you. Traveling to the convention last week now. Let's talk about the Secret Service. Let's talk about this hearing today because you know I thought I had earlier. You know how slow government moves? How slow politics moves? How slowly big things happen? They generally don't happen all at once. Isn't it wild? How quickly things began to move as soon as that bullet missed Donald Trump? As soon as the bullet missed Donald Trump, then a bunch of things got put into motion. It's funny, isn't it? And one of the many things Kim Cheedle, head of the Secret Service, said today, one of the many things she dropped was this little nugget. Does the Secret Service routinely record communications between and amongst detail? Radio communications? Any communication? Email communications are captured as well as text messages and then depending on the detail radio communications are recorded. Does the Secret Service have recorded communications from the July 13th event? We do not have radio communications from that day. I'm sorry, what did you just say? They don't have radio communications from this day. We have multiple congressmen, congressmen, elected people now saying they believe there was at least one other person involved. Congressman Burchit today of Tennessee told me this 20-year-old has three overseas accounts. Three overseas accounts. Now, I did not get clarification that they were bank accounts. I guess I should have asked that, but overseas accounts of some kind. The radio communication was lost. Hmm, let's have a chat about that and we'll talk a little bit more about the Secret Service in a moment. Before we do that, let's chat about your chatting. I'm talking about your talk on the phone, your text messaging. Who's your cell phone company? You see, we are choosing, we're making choices on behalf of our culture when we spend our money. Now that businesses have decided to get involved, now we have to get involved back. You should have pure talk. That should be your cell phone provider. More specifically, you should not have Verizon or AT&T or friggin T-Mobile. Gosh, T-Mobile might be the worst and that's, look, I'm not pointing fingers. That's the one I had before I switched. When you switch to pure talk, you support a company that shares your values. You're not going to sacrifice a thing. They're on the same 5G network. You keep your friggin phone. You keep your phone number. This is a company that loves you, that loves this country. They're CEO thought for it. And it takes 10 minutes on the phone to switch and you save a pile of money. Dial pound 250 and say Jesse Kelly. Pound 250, say Jesse Kelly, switch to pure talk. You're listening to the Oracle. It is the Jesse Kelly show on a Monday. And I am really excited to dig into this and I am getting really, really creeped out the more I learn about this Trump assassination attempt. And this is not something we can allow them to gloss over. We can't allow them to move on. The system really, really, really wants us to move on from the fact that Donald Trump was two inches away from having his brains blown all over the stage in Pennsylvania. That is not something we're going to move on from. And I'm sorry, you'd have to be Stevie Wonder not to see how quickly things moved. The second that bullet missed. The bullet missed and what do you know? Five seconds later, Joe's got COVID it up. Joe's out. Looks like Kamala Harris is a candidate $80 million. Everything's lined up behind her. Sorry, it's looking very neat. And no, I don't know anything. But no, I haven't ruled out a single thing. Especially when, when I hear a lot of this testimony today, this is Andy Biggs questioning Kim Chief. Your agency has a no fail mission and on Saturday July 13th, your agency spectacularly failed. It is unfathomable that a 20 year old on the radar of Secret Service and law enforcement before President Trump went on stage was able to climb onto the roof of a building with a rifle and fire off multiple rounds before he was neutralized. Was Mr. Crook's acting alone? Again, I would have to refer you to the FBI's investigation. Was he just a lone gunman? I would have to refer you to the FBI's investigation for motive. Excuse me? Okay, there's that. Of course, she did this thing all day long today. The Secret Service's solemn mission is to protect our nation's leaders. On July 13th, we failed. As a Director of the United States Secret Service, I take full responsibility for any security lapse of our agency. I take full responsibility, but then says this. You think you are the best person in the country to have the Secret Service? I think that I am the best person to lead the Secret Service at this time. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we've talked about that before. We'll come back to that. I want to come to this here. Listen to this. The shooter began shooting at 6.11 p.m. Eastern on July 13th. NBC reported that at 5.51 p.m. 20 minutes before the shooting began, the state police informed the Secret Service of their concern. Now, the rally was not paused at that point, correct? No. Just two minutes. I need to pause on this for a second. I'm going to do this a couple of times because I'm going to explain a couple of things for you. When it comes to Secret Service, protective detail, presidents, all these things, they don't ever, ever, ever, ever just kind of chance it. Meaning, if Joe Biden's going to speak, if Donald Trump's going to speak, then they identify a person of interest in the crowd. They will go put their hands on that person. They will put eyes and hands on that person. They'll usually take them away for interrogation before anybody, Biden, Trump, whoever it is, is allowed out on the stage. You, me, we don't always see it as that because they don't make an announcement, but half the time when there's a, hey, where's Joe Biden? Why is he 10 minutes late? Well, half the time, it's because there was a security reason. They put a stop on everything. Everything stops. Let's figure it out because they cannot afford to fail. That's normal protocol on these things. One failure, and it's all over. So you don't ever, ever, ever take that chance. They identified this guy 20 minutes before and they allowed Donald Trump to walk out on that stage anyway. I'll let it go on. This later at 5.53 p.m. The Secret Service notified its snipers about the gunman. The rally wasn't paused at that point either, correct? They identified the gunman and the snipers identified the gunman, and they still, nobody went to Trump and said, hey, give us 10 minutes if you don't mind. Nobody stopped at it all? Okay? No. Let me show you some video footage by rally goers. If you could play the video on the screen up here. This was taken two minutes before the shooting started. If you could turn up the volume. We have. We have. We have. We have. We have. We have. Right there. Right on the wheels. We have. And the rally wasn't paused at that point either, correct? I can tell you as I stated earlier, sir, that the moment that the shift surrounding the president were aware of an actual threat. That's a threat. Right there. The guys on the roof and everybody's yelling at him. Yes. And directing the officers attention to him. The rally was not paused at that point, correct? We are currently still combing through communications. And when communications were passed. Well, I can point you to this communication. It's two minutes before the shots started ringing out. Director Cheadle, yes or no? Was there ever a moment where the secret service actually considered pausing the rally? The secret service would have paused the rally had they known or. So the answer is no. The answer is no. Correct? I can I can speak to you in generalities. No, no. I don't want generalities. I don't want specifics. The answer is no. You did not consider pausing the rally. Why didn't they consider pausing the rally? I just told you how it's done. That is standard. Honestly, here's the truth. If there's a balloon pop, someone cooks off a firecracker, which has been done many times at these things because kids think it's funny or her people think it's hilarious to cook one of these things off. If these things happen, things are stopped. Things are paused and they're investigated. This is the former president of the United States of America, the man who was at the time about to become the Republican nominee. This is a man who was threatened all day every day with his life. Nobody stopped anything. Nobody stopped anything. Even the snipers identified him and no one stopped Donald Trump from walking out on that stage. I'll play a couple other things and then I'll play you my thoughts on all this because I have a few thoughts rattling around my head and look, we're just going to talk. Just you and me, all right? This has been a podcast from WOR. The Dacono Music and Spirits Festival returns to Centennial Park Saturday, August 3rd from 2 to 10 p.m. and it's free. 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