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Send us a textToday we highlight another show from our Lifeway Podcast Network. [MARKED] Dr. Danny Akin, president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, joins the ladies on [MARKED] Podcast to talk about what inspired him to write his latest book about 10 women who have made an impact on the Kingdom. He also shares his thoughts on why there seems to be more women, especially single women, answering the call to serve as missionaries in difficult places. Thanks for listening and sharing...

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Dr. Danny Akin, president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, joins the ladies on [MARKED] Podcast to talk about what inspired him to write his latest book about 10 women who have made an impact on the Kingdom. He also shares his thoughts on why there seems to be more women, especially single women, answering the call to serve as missionaries in difficult places.

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Each episode we'll talk about what God is doing, how he has and is marking each of us. Sometimes that will be through interviews and sometimes we'll have conversations around the table. - We're so glad you've joined us today. (upbeat music) - Hello and welcome to the Marked podcast. I am one of your host, Elizabeth Heimman, and I'm here with our other host, Kelly King. Hey, Kelly. - Hey, Elizabeth. Well, we have the honor today of having not only a seminary president with us, but an author and a good friend of Lifeway. So we're really happy to welcome Dr. Danny Aiken, president of South Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary. Thanks for being on the podcast today, Dr. Aiken. - Yes, and I'm honored to be a part of this, Kelly. Thank y'all for the invitation. - Yeah, so we always like for our guests to tell us, I gave a little spoiler alert of what you do, but you've got a big family, but tell us just a little bit about what you do there and wait for us. - Well, I have had the honor of being president of South Eastern Seminary now for 20 years in January, and God has been very kind and gracious during those two decades, we love my wife Charlotte and I, we enjoy so much doing what we do, especially training men and women to take the gospel to the nations, South Eastern's known as the Great Commission Seminary. And so training men and women and then seeing them go just brings tremendous joy and blessing to my heart. And God has been very, very kind to the school over these years. - And tell us a little bit about your family. - Yes. - I married to Charlotte now for 45 years, have four sons, by God's kindness. They're all in the ministry serving the Lord today. And we've been blessed with 15 grandchildren, eight girls and seven boys, the oldest being a girl who is 17 and the youngest four weeks old, as of the time we're doing this, a little boy named Ryland. So eight girls, seven boys and they are more fun than I could have ever imagined. Everybody told me being a grandparent is awesome and they were not lying, it is. - Well, now who's gonna have the next one that even out the boys and the girls? You gotta have one more, right? - I don't know if there's a need anymore, three are definitely retired. And the other one, I will say it's possible, but I'm not putting any pressure on them. I'll just leave that up to them and the Lord. - That's right. That's right, yeah. - I bet you have some epic family gatherings of like, do y'all play like a big flag football game or do anything like that? That's like the family gathering like trivia? I don't know what you might do, but it feels like you could have some good boys versus girls teams. - Oh, that's true. - What we normally have is the boys versus their dads in basketball, which we do every time we get together, whether it's in the, we flip-flop Christmas and Thanksgiving with the other in-laws, this year we got them all for Thanksgiving. And then we try to do a summer vacation together and the big deal is the dads and the boys. And the boys are, shall we say, gaining ground. And I tell my sons, your dynasty is quickly on the way out. And that's fun. We have a lot of fun doing that. We play games together. We really do love getting together and all the grandkids get along so well. So the only drawback or the only sadness is we only do it about twice a year because we've got them in Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky. One group is here, but it's just hard to get everybody together given how busy everybody's schedules are. - Yeah, yeah. Well, you have a new book called "10 Women Who Changed the World." And it's not the first book to be written about the influence of women, but you've chosen some women that most people might not be familiar with. So how did you decide on which 10 women to include in this book? - Well, a number of the women that I chose to write on, I came aware of their stories having written on them and their husbands together. So, for example, I have a chapter on Sarah Judson. I have also chapter on Ann Judson. Ann was, I don't know, I'm Judson's first wife, Sarah Boardman Judson was his second wife and they were both remarkable women. And so there fortunately has been a bit of material provided and written on both of them. So I decided to pursue them in that regard. And then I just got interested in some names that came across my studies over the years. So for example, I came across Evette Arance, who was the first deaf missionary ever appointed by the International Mission Board. Then it was the Foreign Mission Board of the 10 that I have written on. She's the only one that's alive. - Wow. - And so I was able to get in touch with her. And in fact, back in August of this year, we invited her to chapel when I did my message about her life and her service as a missionary. And our students did not know she was there until the end of the chapel service. And it was very, very sweet to recognize and honor this remarkable lady. And then, you know, I knew of Bertha Smith because she's kind of a historic Southern Baptist missionary, kind of the follower of Lottie Moon, because both of them served for over 40 years in China. And then a couple of them were given to me. People knew that I liked to study missionaries. I liked to use their lives as examples and a message I'll bring usually at our opening convocation in the fall. And so a couple of them, like Lilius Trotter, Betsy Stockton came to me through recommendations. So I got off studying on them. And just again, all of them, their stories, their commitment to Christ, their dedication just inspired me. And so I've done the book, "10 Who Changed the World," that was both men and women. And I became just aware of the fact that our sisters are far more active on the mission field than are our brothers. Percentage wise, women far outstripped, especially single women, far outstripped single men on the mission field. And I just became interested in their stories and how they were able, in most cases, to go to places where women were not treated well, often like second-class citizens. And how were they able to go? How were they able to do the work of a missionary? How were they able to stay with it and not get discouraged and come home? And so again, without exception, every one of these ladies have inspired me to be more faithful and to be more committed and devoted to Christ because these were normal women, but God did extraordinary things in it through their lives. - I love the first one that you mentioned that was a missionary to the first missionary to deaf people. What was her name again? - Yvette Erens, A-A-R-O-N-S. - Okay. - He grew up initially in Jamaica, came to faith in Christ there, then moved to New York, then felt all along a calling to be a missionary. Eventually went to southwestern seminary because that's what she would have to do. Graduated from southwestern and twice, she got turned down by the foreign mission board because she was, and I'll use their word, handicapped. But she had friends that advocated for her and would not let it go. And eventually she was given kind of a trial appointment, but then a few years later, she was appointed as a career missionary initially in Trinidad, Tobago. But then she left and went to Thailand, Ancock, where she served for more than a decade, back close to two decades. And again, she faced probably more opposition, had greater challenges simply because of her deafness, but just a remarkable, remarkable lady, retired just a few years ago. That's how I found out about her. They were having a kind of a retirement celebration for our missionaries and Richmond. And they just happened to pick up just a very brief paragraph or two of her story. And I just like, well, goodness, I wonder what I can find out. And most of that particular chapter is from interviews with her and interviews with people that have worked among the deaf affinity group over the years. And they could not have spoken more highly of a bet and my experience in interacting with her did not disappoint. She is a truly remarkable sister in Christ. - I went on a mission trip. This has been years ago and we got to experience the deaf ministry in that affinity group. And this sounds so naive. And I had, you know, I was familiar with that we call ASL, American Sign Language. But what I wasn't really thinking was, there are different sign languages for different languages. And so when we send missionaries to different countries and they're working with deaf communities, they sometimes have to learn even a new sign language. - I have a friend who is an interpreter here in Nashville. And she talks about traveling in other countries. And she said, it's actually, I can pick up other sign languages faster than I can pick up other audio languages, I guess would be, or verbal languages, that's the word I was looking for, verbal languages. And I can communicate easier with someone that speaks sign language in their own language, like their own kind of sign language, than I can someone who speaks like German or French or whatever. And so I found that fascinating too. Like what an opportunity that is for them. And yes, they for sure have a lot of challenges if, you know, they're of just all kinds of challenges that come with being deaf or hard of hearing, but then what an opportunity as well, that they can go into these communities and maybe pick up on that language faster, then we could pick up on the language that they speak there. - Well, I was just not even at all, I thought there was a universal sign language. And there is, but it's very, very limited in its vocabulary. It's usually something they can use when you have international meetings of the deaf, but no, there are hundreds and hundreds, not thousands of deaf languages. - Right. - And so when Abet left the Caribbean and made her way to Thailand, she had to learn the deaf language for the Thai people all over from scratch. And it's very hard. It is, we were having dinner with her with a couple of other deaf brothers and sisters. And one of them said, I can talk, but I need my wife to sign for me to talk and sign, he could hear, to talk inside at the same time is very, very, very difficult. And also came away realizing how taxing it is. It's very exhausting. And even among those that are just signing with one another, they just say it's just, it demands more than those of us that are verbal and hearing. And so I really learned a lot and grew in my massive appreciation. One of the things I discovered though, and maybe this will be great for some folks to hear, we're way down now in terms of the number of missionaries with the deaf affinity. Is it approximately just under 45 right now, but within the next year, it's gonna drop to 12 because of the requirements and other issues. And so it's a, and it's one of the largest unreached people groups, excuse me, in the world. So we desperately need more deaf missionaries or those who are willing to work with the deaf to go. - And I've also heard that sometimes it is easier to share the gospel in sign language because you don't have that, if other, maybe you're in a closed country. It's a little, I don't know, just an opportunity to share with deaf people because people who are hearing, you know, don't know, can't ever hear you. - No, they don't block it. - Yeah, yeah, well, I do think the stories of women inspire other women to be on mission with the Lord. And so when you think about the kingdom impact of these women, how is that still making the impact today? - Well, the fact of the matter is even in the Bible, to you read it carefully, women rise up in terms of their love and devotion to our Lord. Again, many times outstripping the men. Now God has set up the structure for his church and I honor that and respect that and believe it. But I also recognize that women, unfortunately, historically, and certainly in different cultural contexts, have not been given the opportunities to minister for the Lord. As I think the Bible clearly indicates, they should. And these ladies again, almost without except, let's take one example. Betsy Stockton is one of the ladies. Betsy was born a slave. She was born a woman and she was born black. So that's like strike one, strike two, strike three, especially in her particular day. And yet she taught herself to read and then endeared herself to a very prestigious family. In fact, her owner who did release her, set her free and supported her going to the mission field was the president of Princeton University. And she took advantage of that. But at the same time did not allow the fact again, she's a release slave. She is black and she is a woman. She did not allow any of that to get in the way of her going to what was then called the Sandwich Islands, which we know better as Hawaii. And he went there as the missionary and was the most successful of the group that went, all the others were white, but she related so very well to the native Hawaiians that she was even invited by the king of one of the islands to personally minister to his family in terms of teaching and the gospel and so on. And so you again just see these wonderful sisters in Christ who though many obstacles were in their way, did not allow those to get in the way of their being faithful to go and serve our Lord and to do so in extraordinary ways. - I love that. - And I would say this is not only an inspiration to our sisters, but their inspiration to they should be and they are certainly to me, to me and who then I think it helps us become more sensitive to the fact our ladies in our churches, our sisters in Christ can do a whole lot and we ought to be trying to empower them to serve, not asking the question, well, what can women not do? That's the wrong question. The right question is what does the Bible set women free to do? And the answer is a whole lot. - Right, that's great. Yeah, I've been thinking about that a lot lately too, just all the ways that we have, that we can serve and that we can have a kingdom impact. And so you mentioned earlier, South Eastern's emphasis on being sent and it's obvious in the book that it highlights the work of missionaries as we've been talking about, but why is that so important to you personally and to the seminary that to highlight this being sent aspect of our faith? - Well, our mission statement is pretty clear that we exist to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by equipping students to serve the church and to fulfill the great commission. And the reason we have that last phrase in there is because the very last thing Jesus said before he ascended back into heaven was the great commission. Go and make disciples of all the nations. And again, the great commission is most popularly known in Matthew 28's version, but the great commission actually appears in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts. And one of the things I often say is if God says something once, that's enough, if God says something five times, that must be very important to him. And so if the great commission is important to our Lord and clearly it is, it's the last thing he said before he left, then it ought to be important to us. And so I'm convinced that whether you are sent to the international mission field or the North American mission field or God called you to serve in a more established church, if you think like a great commission Christian, you'll serve the Lord better and you'll serve your church better. And wherever a church is, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter its size either. It ought to be a great commission church on mission for our Lord, which again, all of us can pray for the nations. All of us can give to reach the nations and more of us could probably be involved in getting the gospel to the underserved and unreached parts, both of North America and the world. And I'll also discover this, great commission churches have a lot less problems because they don't focus on silly things, they don't really amount to anything. They're focusing on the most important thing, getting the gospel to the ends of the earth. And when you do that, little things just sort of fade away and they don't become irritant in that body. - Right, yeah, I think that's when you're on, they say this for even non-Christian kind of things, but if you're on a shared mission together, whether that is like in work or in our case, in our faith, the shared mission of making disciples, then it grows you closer together with each other. And so that's how we can be unified is if we're all on the same mission, just kind of like you said. - I agree with you, I also appreciate it. - Yeah, and if you want people to serve in your church, they're gonna serve when they feel like it's mission focused and not just better than just, yeah. - Yes, there is a purpose in that. And so that's so important. You mentioned this earlier, Dr. Aiken, and I wanna go back to this a little bit about women being called to the mission field. And I've seen this over the years. We've seen a lot more women, even, especially single women going to difficult places, which is great, but why do you think that that's happening? Why do you think that we're seeing so many young women feeling called to go to difficult places? Hey, everyone, Kristi McClellan here, and I want to invite you to a brand new event from LifeWay Women Called Feast. At this event, you'll be invited to feast on God's word by studying the Bible in its historical, cultural context. We're gonna get to know the Bible in its world, in its native habitat, text, and context. You'll experience teaching worship led by my 25 year friend, Laura Cooksey, and fellowship with other women around the world. Come and learn with me that the living God is better than we ever knew. Visit lifeway.com/feast to learn more. - Well, that's not just a million dollar question. That's a billion dollar question. And one that I've been asking myself and others for a long time, and I still don't have a real, clear-cut answer, I'll jump to what I have become more and more convinced of after reading these missionary biographies. When you read the writings of these ladies, and many of them were very prolific journalers, you recognize a intimacy with our Lord that you don't often see or read about in the writings of men. They just don't, they don't talk of him in terms of and so they actually use the word, my lover. And they don't mean that in any kind of salacious or sexual way, they just speak of him in terms of, he is the most wonderful, intimate, dear friend that I have as well as being my Lord and Savior. And I cannot think of anything that I would not be willing to do for him. Sadly, men don't quickly think in that way, they just don't. And when I read male biographies, they're wonderful, but they don't use this same kind of intimate love language that you find in the writings of these ladies. And I think again, because God in many cases gave these ladies the gift of celibacy, their first Corinthians, seven ladies, they just ask that the Bible's very practical there. If you're single, you ask one question, how do I please the Lord, period in a discussion? If you're married, you have to ask the question, well, not only how do I please the Lord, but how do I also please my mate? Not in the sense of a bad question, it's a good question. You have to ask the question, if I choose this course of life, how is this gonna impact my mate? And how is this gonna impact my children? And you're supposed to ask those kinds of questions. But if you just simply ask the question, how do I please the Lord? You can just kind of throw caution to the wind and off you go. And when you read these ladies' writings, that's exactly how they were. They just like, especially the single ones, the others that were married still, they had an ability, or maybe it's not an ability, they had just a heartfelt love for our Lord. It's just remarkable. And I wanna point out that once women were allowed to go to the mission field initially, they weren't unless they were married, it quickly escalated in terms of many more women on the mission field than men. About 10 years ago, I got curious about this, and I call the IMB. Now, I'm just curious, what's the percentage, or what's the numbers of single women and single men on the mission field? Took 'em a day or two, they called me back and said, well, as of today, and the percentages, by the way, have not changed. The numbers are a little lower. Percentages are the same. There were 331 journey girls. There were 126 journey men. - Wow. - Well, it gets worse. About two days later, I got a phone call from Gordon Ford, who's a vice president at IMB. And he said, I understand you're snooping around. And I said, I'm sorry, I need to call his trouble. He said, oh no, no, we all found it very interesting that someone actually asked the question, but let me tell you about West Africa. West Africa, he said, is one of the most difficult places in all the world for us to get missionaries. It's very poor, it's very hot and arid. It's infested with radical Islam. It's just not an easy place to go and serve. But he said, in recent years, we've been blessed. And today, we have 50 journey men serving our Lord in West Africa. 48 females and two males. - Wow. - And I just nearly cried. And I'm just like, are you serious? He said, oh, I'm very serious. He said, our sisters will go where our brothers walk. And I still don't have a really good answer to your question, other than again, it seems to me that in women across the board, but especially single women, there is a radical love and passion and intimacy for our Lord that I don't often see in the lives of single men. I do see it from time to time. And every time I do, I rejoice. Bill Wallace, for example, I wrote on his life in the previous book, and he never married. He went to China as a single man, a doctor, was brutally murdered there. But the Bill Wallace's of the world are few and far apart, unfortunately. - That's fascinating to be good. - And I pray for it. I pray for the number two. I pray that our sisters will continue to go as they are and that the men will repent and catch a vision to be like them. - Yeah. It makes me think of, so I'm from Oklahoma. This comes up all the time and Liz is always like, you have to get Oklahoma in there, but we had a single woman. My name is Isabel Crawford, way back. And she went to Southwestern, Oklahoma, served Native Americans single all her life. But the stories of her and that just heard devotion, what you said, the intimacy that she had with the Lord and the devotion and that people, some of the Native Americans, they named their daughters Isabelle because of her testimony of what she did for them. - How many of you do a study on her? - Yeah, there you go. But even just thinking about our two offerings in the Southern Baptist convention are named after women. We have Lottie Moon and Amy Armstrong. And those are both women that served as missionaries in China and then nationally. So it's just interesting to me that that seems to be something that's been happening for a long time. It doesn't seem to be a new phenomenon that there are women that are going to. - When you go back to the turn of the century, the numbers have continually been in the same range and you've even seen an increase, not massively because even then, if it came to single men and women and women could go, women far outnumbered the men. Lottie Moon was brutal, brutal in her letters that she wrote back to Virginia Baptist and would talk about where are the men, where are the men? And one of the things I've wrote in my studies, I know some people are gonna push back on it, is that because there were no men present, both Lottie Moon, Sarah Boardman in particular, Judson, they stepped up and preached to a mixed congregation until a man arrived on the field. Now, both of them were thoroughly committed complimentarians and not believed the pastors, but they were not going to, Lottie Moon says, "I am not going to have basically their blood on my hands." And I'm doing this because you sorry men are here. (laughing) That's not overshading, in fact, she was actually more vicious than that. And Sarah did the same thing, but I got attacked when I preached my message on Sarah by some of my friends about saying that it would be appropriate in that context for a woman to speak, until, and these were more of my reformed type brothers, they found out that John Calvin himself said that if the need is there and a man is not present, a woman should step up and preach the word. - If the only way the gospel is being preached is through a woman's mouth, then that's the best way to go. (laughing) - So forth. - Yeah. - Absolutely. - Yes. - Well, speaking of that kind of, why do you think theological education is important for women? Whether or not they're going into the mission field, why would a woman think, oh, I should go get my seminary degree, or I should go get a theological education? - Well, I think it enables both men and women to love the Lord, to fulfill the great commandment, to love the Lord our God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength. And so I tell people all the time, we don't honor God by not loving Him well with our minds. And so if a woman has both the ability and the availability to further her education, so that she might love the Lord better and serve Him more faithfully, she should. And we should make that available to women, and we work really hard to do that here in Southeastern. And not every woman is gonna be a missionary, and not every woman's gonna be in vocational ministry. But again, I think in my own life, my wife, now my wife Charlotte was a stay-at-home mom, but she poured her life into four little boys that two of them went to the international mission field for a number of years, and all four of them were serving the Lord today in full-time Christian service. And people will say, well, you had a great impact on your sons. And I said, well, I hope I did, but their mother had a greater impact on her sons. And so when sometimes people say, well, that must be a waste, I don't think that heaven thinks that what my wife has done has been a waste. I certainly don't think it has been. So whatever it is that God's calling a woman to do, if she can, has the opportunity to study the things of the Lord more in-depthly, praise the Lord, let's go for it. And again, it's Southeastern. Women are very welcomed here in all of our programs, all the way through PhD work. And we have a number of women that have graduated with PhDs and are pursuing PhDs today. And I'm very proud of each and every one of them. - Yeah, we love Southeastern and all the things that you're doing for women and just what you provide for them is really incredible. - Well, they make our school better. They make our school better. - That's good. - Dr. Aiken, we always ask this question of our guests because we're the marked podcast, but we'd like to know what has marked you in your walk with Christ? - That is a very great question. God called me into the ministry on a mission trip, on an Indian reservation in sales, Arizona. And though I did not realize at the time I was 20 years old, that put a certain burden on my heart and a certain passion that I've seen come more to fruition in the last 20 years of getting the gospel to those who've never heard. And when you realize with all of our resources and technology and money, even today, there's more than 6,000 unreached people groups. We have in our mission center, what's called the World Mission Clock. It's constantly ticking. In fact, you can go online to our website and find it. And now we're in excess of, we're almost at 4 billion people on planet Earth that have either no access to the gospel or limited access to the gospel, which means you've got billions of people that will be born, lived, died, go to hell, and they never heard a clear presentation of the gospel. And I just have to believe that that is a heartbreaking reality to our God, and therefore it ought to be a heartbreaking reality to us, and therefore it ought to dictate and guide how we do ministry and how we do church. And I would say that as much as anything has marked me. The only other thing I would add is somebody taught me years ago a very simple dictum, which is I think just filled with wisdom. All that really matters in life is that you please God. That's it. And if you live by that dictum, it simplifies life. It keeps you from getting ulcers and having high blood pressure, because the fact of the matter is we can't please everybody, so we should not even try. What we need to do day after day after day is please the one who matters most, and that's our Lord. And if you pursue life in that kind of a way, I think it will make you a better follower of Christ. And I think heaven will smile on your life. - That's a good reminder for all of us, for sure. - Well, we definitely are excited about the new book. It's called "Ten Women Who Changed the World." So we want our listeners to go check that out. You can go to lifeway.com, go to the show notes. We'll have a link there. Dr. Aiken, thank you so much for being on the podcast today. - Thank you. - Thank you. It's been my great honor. - Listeners, thank you for joining us, and we will see you back next week. - Bye. 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It's perfect for small groups, helps girls answer important questions, and gives us a richer understanding of what kind of home God's building for us. The release date for "Come Home" for teen girls is August 1st, but you can pre-order it now at lifeway.com/comehome. Don't miss out on this opportunity to help girls belong and be loved. Again, you can pre-order it today at lifeway.com/comehome. - "Let It Shine" is a production of the Lifeway Podcast, executive produced by me, Angie Elkins, produced by Nikki Ogden. It's recorded at the Lifeway Podcast Studios and engineered by Donnie Gordon. Edited by Robert Elkins. An original theme song arranged by Robert Elkins, the Maestro himself, performed by Tiffany Casey, Abby Pierce, Ryan Walker, Jarian Felton, and Shawna Felton, art by Grace Morgan, and I'm your host, Angie Elkins. 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