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Big D Energy | Wednesday July 24th, 2024
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Right here on the Woodward Sports Network Update! Let's go! Top five, top five, top five Wednesday as well! Neil Rule, D-Mac Darren McCarty, KG in the house, what's really good? Complete in the death row record shirt, shot on Shug Knight. You damn right, y'all ain't got no love for Dr. D'Rance Nuda! That's all I'm saying, man, but nah, hey, this is a good day minus the weather, man, but just happy to have a team in here, man. 'Cause you about to take off on this again, I appreciate that. Bro! I appreciate that, bro. I can't have a vacation. This is why we not good good. It's shit like this. This coming from the man who said that my black card is being held up, they quote, "May meet next month," or quote, "Maybe the month after." Listen, I can't work on getting your update, but I'm just saying. Take it off and share it and put me on the day, I'm just saying. Alright, we'll get it figured out, KG. Alright, cool. We ain't good good, but we're real good. We're good, we're good there. Okay, I like it. Jesus in the house says, "Well, Jesus, what's going on?" Nothing much. Just an average Wednesday for me. Is it? I know, you got the Western Michigan get up. Oh, wait, no, that's all Michigan. So today we're Michigan. Yeah. But we're at school, we're Western Michigan. Every day it's Western Michigan. Even when we're at school at Western Michigan. It's every day for both. It's every day for both. They're not even on the same stratosphere, so it doesn't matter. Okay, man. Alright. I just, I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure it out. Uh, Spenmorex. Hello. What's up, man? Nothing. You know what? I've noticed, here's what I've noticed, Betty. There is an arc to Spencer Rachter. There, there is an arc that is as old as time, that is as reliable as the sun, the moon, and the stars, as the tides and the sea. Thank you. When Spencer Rachter, everything arcs towards the weekend. And then the weekend is the weekend. Mm-hmm. We know what that means with Spencer Rachter. It's true. Then Monday, you know, is kind of a slow grind. And then on Wednesday, I start to see the energy in his eye, that twinkle in his eye again, where I know that he's getting right for the weekend. Mm-hmm. Spenny, you're giving that vibe. Oh, yeah. You're back, aren't you, baby? Oh, yeah. Tomorrow's my last day of the week. I got Friday off. I'm going to Denver. Yeah. I'm excited. Can you feel the energy, D-Mac? Oh, man, man. Oh, yeah. And what I'm proud about him, he's learned how to contain it during the week. And he's learned how to put the work in and then reward himself. He's really on a balance. I like the balance, Spencer. I like the vibe, yeah. He's found his groove, right? And then we get to live vicariously because he sounds great pitchers. He does. I mean, I pretty much just one of those, oh, I remember that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Me and my boys did that, and I'm glad that I don't feel like Spencer probably does right now, or is buddy in the chair. And there it is. And there's always one. It's almost like Neil. We almost play. Which one of Spenny's buddies is going to be passed out in the picture first? Right. But it ain't going to be Spenny? No. Never me. Not the ringleader. No. Absolutely not. It's just balance. I've noticed that there is a arc path to your week. And I can, I don't even have to know what day it is. I could just see you and know about what day it is. It's fair. Last night was annoying, though. Yeah, no power. No power. No air. No air. I'll sweat my dick off. It sucked. Eh. Yeah. Had a shower in the dark. I'm going to make my lunch in the dark. Would you, would you make a move for that? No. Oh, okay. Yeah. Um, tone. No. Some peppers. No power issues up at the township of Washington. No, I bet. We were above the ring. Yeah. It was sunny. It was sunny. No, but that sucks, bro. That absolutely sucks. Good that Wilward sports, chat, thread, Sandra Dorton, regular crew today. Yes, Sandy, regular crew today and get in there, get your thoughts in there and, you know, we'll, we'll read them, but we do. We have a, we have a top five list. As always, on Wednesday, top five, top five, top five, top five things to trade and, and for the record, I did like a mock spendy top five things to trade in the tech and the tech. I see the mock spendy and then the real spend, I think they're going to be closer than you might think. No, they're going to be pretty, pretty as close as I would think. I would agree. Uh, Gio Mosheri just got out of plan of fitness. First workout with my own membership. I'm coming for you, spanny. Here we go. All right. What's he doing today then? Uh, I got a trust today. All right. Gio. Hey, which rhymes like weights? Shout out. Yeah. Good people. Shout out, Joe moment. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, jump into there. We got a lot of stuff to get to. Got some tiger stuff to get to I, and spending does a great job even through power outages, getting the show sheet ready. But spending, I'm going to do what I do. Sometimes there's two, two things that just popped into my head on the treadmill plan of fitness and I'm calling an audible and I love them. The planet fitness audible of the day. Oh my. Yes. Absolutely. Oh my. 14 grit. Keep scuba. We'll get there. James, top five fluids next week, that is we're drawing the line and that's fair. I don't care. That's fair. I like it. I know you like it. That's the problem. That's a set up. DMACC. That's too far. Is that fair? That's too far. You know what? Uh, just say yes. Please. DMACC on the HR department. I would just say spending you could do that on heavyweight. That's fair. Okay. That's fair. Like that compromise. Yeah. Right on the spot. Thank you. Probably a certain character DMACC, but you're, you're deeper than a lot of people think. Mm hmm. And you're on the pulse. Among other things. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, yeah. Absolutely. Uh, Spenny, I do want to ask you this because in the show sheet and you just talked about it in the show sheet, uh, one of the lines in the, you know, we like to talk about life in the open. I like it. Some of you don't. But a lot of you do. Um. Uh, LFG, what about you combo top five trading fluids? No. No. No. No. Again. Heavyweights, five to seven. Check it out. Spenny hit on the show sheet here where we talk about life. I think I know where he's going with this quote being Amish would suck ball. Yeah. I would. I had to shower and candlelight. Uh, fucking suck. Like, I don't know. I did realize that I was, I was tweeting angrily about having no power that I can talk all the shit I want about Amish people on Twitter and they can't do it. They're not going to know. They're right. They ain't got a cell phone to watch it. Yeah. So, um, yeah. Although, you know what? You should suck. Here's the deal. Can I ask this real quick? I think you guys know. Defends the Amish on social media. No, not, not that, but it's along those lines. And this, there's, this is going to come off badly. There's no other way to say it. All right. I'll stand, you guys know, I think you guys know what I'm about here. Like, I'm not a dick. Truly, I'm not a dick. Yeah. But I want to know, right? Like you say that. They don't have a phone to watch Twitter or anything like that. Why do I always see them on planes? It's true. Oh, that's different. That's like a different technology. New way, Thomas, you spoke, they, they get around. Don't. I'm the slurs. I can get canceled for, but probably a hundred percent. God damn cart pullers. Horse riders. Hey, baggers. All right. We're getting, we're getting somewhere. FJ 1967, the Amish do have cell phones. Who knew? DMACC. They're not real Amish. They got cell phones. Yeah. They have a mafia. New age. So if the Amish have a mafia, they do what it is. I mean, they've had to, they've had, they've had probably customs. How do we have evolved this technology, dude? I mean, they're not dumb. They make the greatest furniture in the world. And that's what I was going to say. Like, I'm going to ask you. But I think they're more, I think that they use more technology than we think. But I also think there's different sectors of it, right? The more technology, like the younger ones who, who have grown up with it as opposed to the old traditions is probably like everything else in family dynamics and stuff. So yeah, I think the rules, like, like they have the rules, but I think there's different strokes for different folks, along with narrative driven. Right. It's narrative driven. I want to take, because, because here's the one thing, they're, they're great, like, they're great building things and they sell stuff. You know what I mean? So they have their, they know what's going on. They're a little bit smarter. I think, I think they just like let on that. They're not as much. They're kind of like you in that way. Something like that. Maybe you game recognize game. All right. It's funny. What do you got? When we went camping in Indiana, we used to go to Yogi Bear Campground in Indiana. There's an Amish flea market called Shipshawana that we'd go to every year and it was tons of like a bunch of things set up a little kiosk selling different stuff. We used to buy airsoft guns and shoot each other in the face with them, you know, they sell airsoft. Yeah. And I do want to take an old school Amish, like the old world Amish dude, take him to see Interstellar and IMAX and just blows my head. That is something I would want to do. Okay. Forward sports, Chad, there's some controversy about the top five DNC and T WTF is a top five supposed to be a top six. We are robbed. No, the six is the sleeper number is really a time five, but you can have your honorable mention. Yeah. I mean, it's been copyright on the number six. So if we want to do it, we would have to pay spending and that's not in the show's budget. Well, that's the whole thing, right? Because he's learning Neil's negotiating tactics and he just won't broadcast or six will not relinquish the six. Yeah. Even to the show. Get your bags. I mean, get it. No, 100 percent. Tuck the brand. Mike G top five furnace brands according to Neil. All right. One, if I'm ever hear about myself, we'll do a top five, I'll do top five furnace brands. What I like, what I don't like, all of it, Matthew Kruger, city people, when they lose power or sell service, they are so soft. Agree. Yeah. Big facts. Yeah. There you go. Um, I was playing the, cause I could use my laptop as fully charged, but I couldn't use that on the internet. And I don't have anything downloaded on it. So I was playing the little T-rex jump game. Oh, God. Like when you, when you don't have service on an atmosphere, I was right there spending. Yeah. I was playing that for. I played it for like 10 minutes. And then just laid there. It talks to my dad, but Devin, the dog wants to know, spending your shirt is goaded. Where do I get it? I need it. I, it was a targeted ad on Instagram that you, that you just, that I found part of it. That wasn't a scam. Shout out to Yami. Yami is a go for sure. Uh, but yeah, I don't know where I got it from. Okay. Um, there's a lion's thing that, that I want to do. And I want to talk about, I'm going to get to the tiger stuff, but I want to lead off with it. Nobody in this room knows what it is, but me. So, um, I want to do it because I feel it's important. And actually one of the techs, the techs people on the show, and I want to do a dress it yesterday, I couldn't, but I want to address it today. And Dan Campbell speaking to the media and everyone salivating over it and stuff like that. And I, and I think it's time to do a check in as we get ready to rock. I think it's time to do a check in. 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All of you in the Woodward Sports chat thread it and DMACC yesterday during the show when we got to talking about the Lions and I brought up the segment about the shit that's going on everywhere else, the cowboys, they're talking, they're talking about they got to pay Dak Prescott $60 million CD Lam's not showing up for anything. He's going to pay 50 grand a day in fine. He's standing on business like that. Jordan Love. I'm not practicing. I'm not doing anything. Where do you not see any of this going on? It's right down the road and none of this is going on whatsoever. And somebody in the text thread yesterday said, why are we talking about other teams? And DMACC, I thought about it in the moment and I thought about it more on the treadmill today, a plan of fitness, shout out plan of fitness, plan of fitness studios. I thought about it more today. And initially I was angry about that, but then I, but then I really thought about it and we're still new money. We're still new money. There's, and you guys know this, you do the morning show. Yeah. Wake up Woodward. Shout out. You do heavyweights. Five to seven. Shout out. Your audience is a bit different. It is. But still there's still sports fans and I want to run this by everybody in the room because we are still new money. Is there a segment of fans that you talk to that you interact with, you see on social media, wherever that still think the bottom is going to fall out at any moment? No. Not one. I really don't think so. Not one. Yeah. That's what I was about to say. No, it's very big on the SOL. No, but I'm going to defend answered a little bit here because because I've watched him come around to whatever else to and he might be one of the last ones. I think there is out of PTSD and maybe Neil to your point, it's the older fans. Yeah. Nurse. Right. Like older than me. Like fans that have been, you know, in the 60s and 70 and just, but I think, and here's the caveat. If you listen to what Dan Campbell said about no complacency and about it, doesn't matter what paraphrasing that, that nobody or anything is going to get in the way of what they built culture wise. And I think that when you say that, you believe what they built here. And when he, when Dan Campbell stands there or Brad Holmes in front of everybody and tells you this is the way it is here, that's the way it is. I think everybody's on that page. I think it's just, you know, maybe in the back of our minds, what you, if somebody gets hurt, if, if some guys go down or whatever there is that it might creep in, but as far as how this team has been built and how the structure in the facility throughout everywhere, management, training staff, people, the janitors in that building, they're all in the same page. It feels, I told you. It's genuine. It feels as real to me as it was for us back in the 90s. When we're building it. And if anybody knows, like Joe Lewis Arena, it was everybody that worked there involved there that came in there was part of it. And that's what it feels now and including the fan base. And I think that if you're old enough to have lived through that, that's the feeling we have now. It doesn't mean that there's not going to be trying times and there's not going to be storms in the future. But gosh darn it, you love the boat. That's been built. No doubt, no doubt and agree with you a million dollars in 100% when you look around and being realistic to all these other problems that, you know, you've brought up. It's like smoke and mirrors other places and teams that have have maybe that were chasing in San Francisco, but they have their issues. I think that's the biggest thing is. And we always talk about it with trust, the eyes wiser plan and what they're building. It's foundational. Well, it moves quicker in the NFL, but this is real. We all think it's real. Everybody thinks it's real. Right? It's not. But that time was three years ago when they were telling us, but not showing us now they showed us. Now it's about reinvigorating that. And that's why first thing out of the rip where Coach Campbell says it's about getting back and we're not sustained this culture for anybody. Right. And you're right. And that is the baseline. And that is most people. There is a segment of those kind of people that are always waiting for the bottom to fall out. And then what we're sports chat thread DNC ENT DNC is an elite texture on the show. He's elite. Shout out. It's not talking about other teams. It's talking about the path and DNC and T exactly like yeah, that it's exactly that. Exactly that. When you say it in one sentence that doesn't help you with a two hour show, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, though, I'm messing with you. We vibe for the most part DNC and T. But anyway, though, the moral of the story and the reason I bring that up is this. Originally I was angered by it by that text. And now I'm just like, we need to do a check in and understand how we should feel. And to that text or I forget who it was yesterday, I would say this to you. These are the waters we're in and D. Mac, this is an overriding thing to what I've talked about for a long time. The evolution of me is a lion's fan that we talked through the entire last season. The waters were in now. We have graduated to a degree as lions fans where we need to be is yes, you need to be aware of what is going on around you. You have to be because it gives you perspective as to how well you're set up for success. That's number one. Number two, I'm not saying you like obsess over it or things like that. It's just the Dallas cowboy thing makes me laugh. And oh, by the way, too, since we are talking about other teams, the Dallas Cowboys, their last appearance in the NFC Championship game was 1995. 90210 was on back at that time. Spencer Raxter wasn't born yet the last time that the Dallas Cowboys were in the. So when are we going to fire those engines up? By the way, you got a quarterback. You have a team with no quarterback on a roster. You have a wide receiver that says, no, bro, I'm good until I get my contract. They don't even like each other and they don't like each other. And then you got Mike, a person's over here going, Hey, by the way, I'm one of the best players in football. And you know, you guys, I'm third on a list and no one's going to sit. We're just saying the Cowboys, they're back. The Cowboys. Yeah. America's team. I think that I think that narrative is getting blown out of the water more so than I will be ever before because the re the emergence of the new America's team. You know what I'm saying? So all the BS to whatever else that you're saying, it's it's it's crazy because like when you're saying this, then I just look back and go. And my guys are just all talking about outworking each other and doing and and they like each other and everybody. Like it just makes this is what we've all waited for as Lions fans, isn't it? To just have this feeling to be going out and attacking whatever the season with a bunch of guys that are on the same page. And when the coach says this is super bowl or bust and I mean, take a poll. I believe them doesn't mean we're going to win, but it's I believe in what he's preaching out. There's the same mentality as when we went to train a camp as a Detroit Red Wings to win the Stanley Cup. It's it's that belief and it's true DMACC that was beautiful. That was 10 years of working together. We are an Olympic relay team right now and DMACC just said stick and I grab it and here we go DMACC and it all backs up to that. Okay. Flip side of that coin. The other thing we all need to get comfortable with it is super bowl or bust. Yes, sir. It is super bowl or bust. There are there are there are no more feeling good about it. They won more playoff games in seven days than we had in 50 years. That stuff's all put to bed now. That's all over. I gave you this debt. The new clown in the NFL are the Dallas Cowboys. Argue it. Okay. Argue it. Have them in the conference championship game since 1995 clown show over their home playoff game last year clown show over there. They're the they're the old new lions. Yeah. It's flip-flopping. They are that you will never convince me they're not because they are. And with that being said DMACC, this is the water we're in now. It is super bowl or bust. Now the flip side to that flip side of the coin is this. Whether it's 14 wins, 13 wins, 12 wins. What comes along with that is the only target you have right now is that you have to win your division. You have to win your division. Whatever happens after that is cosmetic. Is there a team in the NFC that you fear going to their place? Not a damn one. Not a damn one. Not especially after the worst fear that you could have you experienced. You already experienced against the team that you're chasing and in the worst freaking way. That's like giving up a four goal lead, you know, in the third period. And those guys in that room and again, this is where I lean on you and and you learn from like a lot of us have had to fail to learn how to win and you know that feeling and they can look left and right and they all know it and that is a motivating factor. Everyone in that room. And here's the kicker to it all. If Penay Sewell is not scared to go there, which he is not, then I'm not either as a fan. You want it. You want to flip out because they're going to lose a game they're not supposed to lose this year. It's the NFL. It happens all the time. What were the chiefs last year, by the way, 11 and six, 12 and five. No one remembers they lived into the playoffs. No one remembers. That's the moral of the story. They lost to Arizona, I think. They had to go on the road twice in the playoffs and guess what? They didn't give a shit because they're cut different. This line's team is cut different. I don't care about that. And then look, they lost to the Raiders. Yeah. Well, they always lose to the Raiders. For some reason. Yeah. So, so DMACC, what I'm driving at is this. The week to week thing, do we need that at Woodward to a degree? Does our industry need that? Yeah. I'm not going to lie to you guys. I told you, I'll look in this camera. I'll never lie to you guys. Do we need that? Yeah, we need that. Do we need people getting worked up and fired up and stuff like that? Yeah. I'm not going to lie to you. We do. But the Lions fan, which is what I am, which is what DMACC is, which is what everybody in this room is. What I've been my whole life, I've evolved as a fan. I have that corporate feel now as a fan, where I'm not sweating a loss to the Bears, if that's what happens. Not sweating it because it doesn't matter. We win the division, we go to the playoffs and I don't give a shit who's in front of it. And they still don't give a shit who's in front of them. Yeah, right. That's it, bro. Like, hey, does it help to be the one seed? Sure it helps to be the one seed. Sure it helps. But it is, I'm not dead if they don't get it. Yeah. Not dead if they don't get it. React as such. And I'm pretty sure you're only playing three games outdoors in the regular season this year. And it's one in Lambo, one in Soldier Field and then one in Candlestick, well not Candlestick, wherever the 49ers play now. Yeah. Levi. So really only one bad weather game and that's going to be, I think, Chicago late in the season outdoors. Whatever. Get to sweat. I don't sweat. And guess what? I don't sweat that either. I don't care what the schedule is. When division, when division, when your playoff game, keep it pushed at him, wherever they got it. You think that you think that you think that they're scared to go to San Francisco? No. D-Mac, you guys lost in Colorado. Were you scared to go back there or could you not fucking wait to get back there? No, I mean, we had to do it the hard way in '02 by winning game six there and seven at home. We were able to do it. I mean, it's like you choose that. Was it on your wish list? No. That's your friendship. That's your relationship. A good friend of mine said to me one time, the only way out is through is through. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's because if you don't go through, you never really got out. Yeah. Why would they be scared? They beat themselves last year. We had them down 17 points at the crew. R.A. Brown listened to D-Mac when he speaks, totally agree with them 100% err under the stone. Neil, I watched the last episode of receiver last night reliving that crushing loss to the Niners, seeing how devastating it was to the team, Saint Brown's family. Fans in the arena legit brought me to tears. My buddy, Terminal Dennis, he finally watched the last episode and he's like, I couldn't, I couldn't. I had to stop. Yeah. I had to stop. I believe it. Yeah. And I do too. But I told him Monday we were playing in our high school, it's golf-awing. I also told him, I said, you know what, man? That's over now. And here's the thing, right, where it's easier and a lot of time with anything that you lose in life, right, but you go back knowing that things have changed, at least for me, to go watch something that's traumatic or an experience, right, to know that it's done and over with. But you have to also, I would encourage to go through that pain or whatever it is just so that you can enjoy where we're at now, right, and the journey. Because then you'll be with it with the guys and you saw the emotion and stuff like that. I mean, you know, I go back to when people say like, the scariest thing wasn't losing a 95 in the finals to Jersey, get in the sweat. It was 96 after setting the league record and losing in the conference finals and really doing, oh my God, we may never get back, but you band together and the thing is that you all experience that. We just watched Florida fight through that to the bitter end of losing then winning. So I got to believe in with the makeup and the mentality that the coaches, all the coaches, not just Dan Campbell. When we talk Dan Campbell and coach and it's the coaching staff. It's all the guys, the accountability to each other, players to coaches, coaches to players, you know, trainers, everybody, they're on the same page. So that's how you get, that's the only way out through and you do it together. D-Mac, I want to touch on and I know I know we got to get to the break right now, but I don't care because this is important. It is for real. This is important. 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You do the drive-in, we'll do the rest. And DMACC, I'll never forget hearing that. Everybody's the reaction to that when Dan Campbell said we may never get back here and they kind of chopped and spliced it narrative it out and you know to talk about the collapse and things like that. You again, this is why I want to do this when you're here. You again stood on that ice and said I don't know if we'll ever get back. You said that, that's the athlete's nature. That's the fear that keeps you coming back. And it's just the realization, the self-awareness and it's like, holy shit, you know, you got to dig in a little, like obviously you thought you dug in deep enough, no, there's deeper to go and a lot of times that's why adversity in individual sports, you see somebody, you know, as we're entering the Olympic time and stuff like this, there's always storylines of comebacks or storylines of people trying to accomplish things and golf and tennis and stuff like this. That's the team around them, and that's got to be hard when you got to rely on yourself, even, you know, have some people, but as a team, it empowers you. It's empowering. It's empowering to embrace the suck, right? What they're doing right now, training camp and running and doing all this stuff and all the film work and whatever. That's the suck, but I guarantee they're all embracing it and enjoying it together and looking around going, he's got, you know, we got to do this together. It's like, you know, get caught in the rain or get a flat tire or whatever like this. It's just life. Well, I hate you. And the sports, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. You've got to dig in a little harder. And you don't think these guys are digging in, right? That's all I heard yesterday because they know when they tell you super bowl or bust, that's what they believe. And they know they got to dig in harder. But the reality is it's not a given to anybody, right? But that's that's facing it. That's just saying, okay, you know, that that's just believing what's out there. And to this group, I think it motivates them to be better. No. And another thing I learned from receiver, because much like your friend, Terminal Dennis, I delayed watching the last few episodes of receiver because I knew how I'd ended, right? And then, you know, I was thinking back to what I felt during the season and everybody kept talking about the Big Bad 49ers. How would the Lions overcome the 49ers? And then when you watch receiver and you see just how mortal the 49ers actually were, they were lucky to get to the Super Bowl. They were supposed to lose the Green Bay. They were supposed to lose the others. They were losing the fourth quarter and the bottom fell out once they actually got to the big dance. And then I just thought about how far this team really has come. We are on even playing ground with every team in this league and you cannot tell me different. We had the worst secondary in the F and league last year. Still had the 49ers down 17 at the half. Could have won the game. Like we got to realize as fans, the Lions are even with every single team in the league because they've done it the right way. That's facts. And to back that up, if you are, then it's Super Bowl or bust. Yes, sir. And I'm not going to get caught up in the method. I'm caught up in the result. That's it. Let me tell you about the new morning show. That's not so new anymore, but you guys are tapping in. We appreciate it. Wake up Woodward, Kool-Aid flannel Sam Broder, KG, and the legend JB Smoove all on there every morning, 8 to 10 a.m. You can listen to Broder or pine about the Tigers farm system and how great it is. And he'll spin yarns about days of your when he struck out George Springer in college and all that kind of stuff. It's great. That is. It's really, really great. We're going to get that segment with Broder, by the way, the Tigers segment. 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It's funny, dude. You'll laugh when you see it, by the way. Woodward Sports, Big D Energy, Neil Rule, Darren McCarty and we also have KG. We also have Jusus. We also have Spencer Raxter and most importantly, we have all of you in the Woodward Sports chat thread. GW, the kid, O'Neill, you know, people will be calling for coordinators jobs and call guys bust after losses. No, I know. And I was just keeping it 100 with all you guys. We need that in this industry, man. We do. So, you know, again, that's fine. I'm just, I'm not, and I will DMACC, you know me, I will stay consistent with this. And if I have to draw the sword, I'll draw the sword in a vacuum, a loss doesn't matter. No. Look at, you brought up, what did Kansas City do last year? And I know that they had these kids to happen, but they were mid. They were mid, but then they got it done. So I don't think we'd all be complaining if, if even the season went like that, but the ending was the same way. So yeah, there's, there's gonna, you're gonna remember how disappointed the Thanksgiving day game was. Green Bay came in here, right, but we bounced back from it. So I think this team handles adversity a little bit, you know, it handles it well. And I'm looking forward to, you know, for me, it's all about staying healthy. That's it. That's it. That's all. Every NFL team. Every NFL team. Well, they, yes, and every NFL team and every player, yes, but that's the only thing that we have. No contracts, no disputes, no display doesn't like this player. Everybody's on board. Talked about the end of the show yesterday, everybody's on board as far as your quarterback. No, and we, we don't have anything to worry about. We don't have to worry about not having been to the NFC championship game since the 90s. That's bum ass Dallas. That's got to worry about that stuff. A bum franchise. Like the Cowboys never, I may bring this up every single day, the end, from now until the end of football. You should 100% remind the people, hey, I'm just saying, yeah, I want to remind people what reality is. And that's the reality. There's only one bum franchise in the NFC, they were Dallas Cowboys. They reminded us every day that 60 damn years or however long it was 30. They reminded us every frickin day. So big con 51 Lions Rams replaying on the NFL network right now. Always remember. Boot him. Now. Never forget, uh, shopped out with sports.com. By the way, get your boot him kids t-shirt and get it out there. Cody Engel says, and we, and we kept our entire staff, Alan W, only team that scares me is Baltimore. Age. You got to figure out how to stop the running back Lamar and their D line eight, our old lineup. That'll be a super ball. Aaron Glenn, stop Lamar. Once. Yeah. Like we forget that. They shut him down when they came to Ford Field. The only reason they won that game was because Justin Tucker hit the longest field goal in the history of the NFL. Yeah. That banked in off the cross. Right. And that was before we had the team. Yeah. Right. I still remember six reaction. That was pretty funny and you sit back and you laugh at all the torture that we've all gone through, you know, watching all this stuff because of where we're at now, because it's real. You know what I'm saying? You can always look back at some of the dumb shit you did when you were younger that you survived or got through that you're not proud of, right? You wouldn't do it again, but then if you know, you take the humor out of it. So that's where we're at with the Lions team. Steve O'Baby, Neil Dallas has multiple Super Bowl trophies. Yes. Before there was high definition television since the nineties when boys to men were the top selling group in America because that's the last time they've been to the college championship game. The Cowboys win a championship 95. Oh, so, so it's real close two years after Canada won their last Stanley Cup. Yeah. There you go. Just saying. So Steve O'Baby, tell me more about it. Tell me more about those, those grainy footage Super Bowl trophies that they won. Tell me more. It sounds like a great time. They were Beverly Hills in 102 and O was the most popular show in America. That's well. I wasn't born yet. I wasn't. Spenny wasn't born yet. Yeah. Well, you weren't born for anything, Jesus. Right? Yeah. You missed a lot. You're only born to claim Michigan when you go to Western Michigan, except in Western Michigan, it's not good. Then mission. I don't know, but that's, that's when you were born. Um, but yeah, Michael Neil jumping on the box again. I don't know what that means. I'm telling you what I deal in fact, they're a bum NFC franchise, the Dallas Cowboys going on three decades, three decades since they've been in the sea. I can do this too, everybody, because this is the reality. Here's the thing. Three decades. Only going to get worse before it gets better with them with the infighting they have in the contracts. They have to sign and whatever. Do you Mac? They're America's team. They'll be, they'll get over it. They'll be fine. They'll absolutely be fine. They are the Toronto Maple Leafs of the NFL. That's what they are. Things move quicker in the NFL. 100%. I love that comparison. Just fuck the Maple Leafs. It's true because they got the same bait, same fan base that that has no self awareness. Correct. They're the front runners. There's no front runners. How can you, you got to be on front, to be a front runner. They're butchered like mid pack runners. That's it. You know, like, think we're better than we are, you know, you know, it's crazy. We all know those girls, they're hotter than they, but then they really are. Yeah. You look yourself in the mirror, babe. Mac Kruger, if you're going to bring up Dallas's Super Bowl trophies, you may as well bring up the Lions Championship trophies from the 50s. There you go. May as well. They were both in standard definition. Yeah. We're almost closer to our last Super Bowl than theirs than we are from them winning their last one to their next one. That is true. Yeah. So. The new drought. Right. DNC ENT. If you are 100% comfortable, if we have to go play Philly or Green Bay in January, please seek help. You think, you think Penaisou was comfortable with it? You think I'm on Ross St. Brown's comfortable with it? That's the diff. That's the path. That's the difference now. All right. Let's take the break. When we come back, a couple of Lions housekeeping things to do. We got some Tiger stuff we got to get into. Spenny has a couple of Red Wings questions. You know, I wore the NHL 94 shirt. That's right. Shout out, Sergey. So I wore that. So let's we'll get into that too as we go. I have a LeBron thing. 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Gangster's Paradise was number 1 on the charts. The first Toy Story movie was released, and Windows 95 was created. So there you go. You're speaking Chinese, the Jews, is right now. I know. It's wild, man. It's wild. The ski mask boy. So now we only get mentioned in the chat if we give a donation, JK, JK, JK. I mean, there's ways to get to the top. Is it easier to skip the line in the club if you ask or if you handshake a 20? Yeah. The latter. Every single time here. Every single time. But yeah. All right. Couple of the housekeeping things for the Lions, and then we can move on to the next thing. Brian Branch, Marcus Davenport, DJ reader, all start the season on the pop list. The newsworthy thing to all of that DMACC to me is the conversation was nothing unexpected. Guys are still expected back on their timetable, which I we don't know what the timetable is. But they said there has been no delineation, no movement off of what the expectations were. So when you got DJ reader, you knew this going in. When you got Davenport, you knew this going in. And look, we saw that those pictures of Branch surfaced what right around the draft when he was in the car. You know, so like there's nothing new to report here, DMACC. Oh, keep it carry on. Keep it pushing. Keep it moving. And I know like there were a couple of people, my buddy terminal Dennis was one to say, I'm trying hard not to get worked up about it said, bro, this was all part of the package. Yeah. This was all part of there's nothing going on here. He was in it. He was on a car. So you know, he wasn't just going to shake that off and be back at OTAs and talk about Brian Branch. Oh, and this is the time to make what if they're taking extra precaution because you're in July. I mean, come on guys, settle down, at least for a month. Yeah. Right. Like let things play out and God forbid, right as you see somebody might get hurt. Uh, dirty Dr. D Branch and Davenport are doing walkthroughs today. That's according to Dan Campbell. So there you go. There's, uh, there's that the lines and place the following players on the active NFI list, Carlton Davis, part of the people's Jones and me, Robertson and Trey wants me. Oh my God. That's all falling apart. Oh no. Oh no. Uh, Michael D. Mac had a great take on that subject. Thanks. Thanks. Do you share to Mike? Um, but yeah, I will probably fart at some point today. I hope. Okay. Okay. Good luck to you. Good luck to you. Hope you stay regular. Yeah. Go ahead and do it. You're on the way out. True, bro. Yeah. Yeah. That is great. Literally tell you what through, but now we know it's true. Uh, RJ Graham, it will not be a bust if the lines don't go to the Super Bowl cause we are a top four team in the NFL. The other teams are elite and reloaded to might even be a better team. No RJ Graham, like you don't get all that now. RJ Graham. You're right. It'll be a bust of the lines. Don't win the Super Bowl. If they don't go to the Super Bowl, it'll be a complete failure. Yeah. 100%. We're sitting at the big boy table now. There's this, this cute shit. There's over. Oh, we want a division for the first time in 30 years. Oh, we want to play off game for the first time in 30 years. That was cool, but that's not reality anymore. We are a top four team in the NFL. We should be expecting a Super Bowl victory. You should be saying it is Super Bowl or bust. Listen to these players, listen to these coaches, they all expect to win the Super Bowl. If you don't win the Super Bowl, your season is a failure. You think, you think San Francisco is patting themselves on the backs last year because they made the Super Bowl? No, their season was a failure because they lost when it mattered most. And Spenny, they are under the most pressure they've ever been under now because the end is in sight. Yeah. You see it. There's a couple of cracks in the foundation. How many more kicks at the can are they going to get? Not many. How many times are you going to overcome trading your draft future for trade lands and still get away with it? That ain't happening again. So you tell me right now because of the cap or whatever, like the pay the piper times coming real soon for these guys or decisions will have to be made where they'll lose top guys. They're already right discussion about their- Well wait, D-Man, I was told the cap's not real by people at this network. Well, those people probably aren't as inept or layered as you are as we are. So you know what? They're just not using all the information available, but that's why trade talks right now, whether to do it or not, but just the fact that one of their best receivers and IU, you know, production-wise is, you know, like you said, they're going through it too. There's going to be all these other conversations. His replacement also just got hurt, Ricky Purcell. So that's also another issue for the 49ers. That is true. You know, by the way, too, since you asked, I just went and perused it real quick. Next season for the 49ers, as they sit right now, they're 26 million over the cap. That's with Brock Purdy at $1 million in the last year of his deal. So this is it. You know how people always do graphs and stuff? I'd wonder if somebody did a graph with the money or where it is and who's in the danger zone or has to pay. Now, because you'll see a lot of the top teams, I would expect be more over to that except in the Saints. Right? Well, in the Saints, but that was from the Ricky Williams we've never recovered from. Right. But then if you look at the Lions' deals, because every time you bring something up, I'm thinking about our team, our team, our team, but it's not like that. Your top guys have been taken care of. Your draft picks are coming in and playing. You're signing free agents. You know what I'm saying? All these stuff that's going on in this graph, the Lions would be, you know, in the green zone. When you say like the way that they're doing it, the way that they're figuring out to not have to do it like all the other team. Exactly. But I again, and somebody in the chat and it slid through, somebody in the chat said Buffalo is either their window is either closing or it's closed already. We'll have to see this year. Those are the questions Buffalo's facing. We're just 32 games ago or 34 games ago, when they were next, when they were going to take over. Like this stuff moves pretty fast. The NFL, the window closed as fast. Right. It does. And that, and that, and that's the thing that we're seeing here is that isn't usually the windows three years and then there's something else. It depends on how well you built. Well, that's the whole thing, right? How we're building here is to sort of sustain and make sure because the way that Brad Holmes drafting and guys are playing and we'll see more now you're attracting different, you know, top reagents of the different positions. Like you said, like the imperativeness of last year's secondary to this year's secondary that I didn't even hit the field yet, which makes everybody else better. It is unbelievable night and day I will say night and day. What does spending always say? We never want to be in a position to have Kindle, Vildor, you know, like, and that's a lucky that's a, that's a great office helmet into how you can. Yeah. But again, you're not going to be in that position. Big facts. I would say to lions window is as long as the golf contract, the minute they signed that contract, the clock is ticking. Sure. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I would agree with that. Okay. Although you have, you know, your pillars are signed basically to the same timeframe as well. That's, that's the shelf life in the NFL. Right. Unless you have Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady. Exactly. Exactly. Like, unless you have a mercurial, you know, we're not in a packer situation where we have a Jordan love waiting in the wings. That's why I said the golf contract is essentially the lion's window. They have to get it done while they have all these pieces under contract and, you know, they can afford everybody. And, and, but here's the one thing too, right? As we go along, my confidence in Brad Holmes to refill the tank to go find that next guy. When the time comes or whoever it'd be, you got to have confidence in it. Now, now it's not done, but I like who's going to be preparing that because they're not going to get caught with the pants. Isn't it funny how quickly we forget about that too? Like the drafts. Yeah. Like it's, it's funny. We hyper focus on it from like January until it happens until about two weeks after it happens, then we just forget about it and we keep it pushing and that's the roster because I'll tell you this, like these teams we're talking about with the 49ers and the Packers. Remember yesterday when, you know, we were talking about other teams. Why do we talk about other teams? The 2025 situation for Green Bay, they're in a, they're in a much better spot than San Francisco is, but also remember, cause they have the cap space that they can sign their quarterback. So they're, they're going to be able to do it and it's going to get done soon. But with that being said, they're still in a spot where 52 million, 53 million of their cap is Jair Alexander and Michonne Gary, wow, you know, like that's where they're at. That's where their resources are allocated to like it gets late early. And by the way to like the 49ers and the people were talking about it, you have to look at at where they are. Ellen W. Trent Williams is going to retire too. We are here for the Niners downfall, but I would ask you this, Ellen, is it a downfall if you didn't really cash it in? Yeah. It's a good, uh, yeah, downfall from what? Almost being good, right? Having two cracks at it losing, yeah. And then they've had more cracks than anybody. If you count the NFC championships as well, but you don't get that many shots in it. Doesn't it feel like, like, if you said, like, to me, it's sort of, you have to go, yeah, San Francisco hasn't won one. It feels like it feels like they have, right? But they haven't. No, because I keep getting my whole need 100%. When was their last Super Bowl standard definition television also? Absolutely. See what I'm saying here, man, like we are. It's just as much us as it is everybody else, man, don't, don't ever forget that because it is. Tell them about Swiss insurance. DMACC. Absolutely. Now more than ever is important for you to have your insurance reviewed. 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Not all Michigan fans are going to go get JJ McCarthy jerseys. Not all Michigan fans want Mr. Rashaun Gary to be with Aiden Hutchinson. Okay. You better get those McCarthy jerseys. They might not be wrong from along from what you're on. Hey, that's real. That's real. Have you guys caught that act by the way? Have you heard those updates? Yes. Not sounding good. So like they're they're one inch away from Colin Sam Darnell, the starter in July. Hey, man, we are going to we have some good times, man. Just rip it. It's on a good time. I know. Turns out. Hey, he's not wearing the mason blue. Good. I don't expect me at all. Nope. Be lucky. He doesn't have those hand signals coming from the sidelines anymore. No, he does not. Don't get that in the pros, man. Neil prayed on his downfall and he'll pray it on his downfall. I pray on his downfall. It makes sense. I do too. It's coming from you. Yeah. He plays for the Vikings. I hope his career is a disaster. I hope he's the next your Marcus Russell, except not that even that good. We all should. And you all should. Every single one of you. I don't care if you're Ryan or money, Braylon Edwards, Matthew Kruger, Jesus. All of you's. All he is. All y'all. No one should want him to have success. Well, here's, here's flannel. Michigan derangement syndrome is real. What? Because you don't want division rivals to have success. Okay. Cause I don't want Roshan Gary at $96 million. Is that fair? Agreed. That is fair. Agreed fan agreed agreed over here as well. All right. All right. Roshan Gary. At $28 million. Not at that price tag. No, he's too. He's too. He's way too. Like Nick Bose's number? Yeah. No. I can. Well, that ain't Hutchinson Walker. We'll sign Roshan Gary. It's the wallet. You know what? You funny. Come on. Don't do this. That's the space we're in right now. Come on. So is, is that, is that derangement? No. No. Is it derangement to prey on JJ McCarthy's downfall? Cause he plays for the Viking. Not for you. I can see the angle of why Michigan fans don't want to root again. I can't. JJ McCarthy. I can't. If you're a lions fan, he's the enemy. I fuck that guy. See, I'm not going to go that far. I hope that fucking doesn't do well. Oh, so you like Justin Jefferson then? You want? No, I do. I do not like Jefferson. I do not like Jefferson. I do not like Jefferson. What's different? JJ, what's Michigan? Well, he's going to help JJ. So what's different? Why are you engaging? So you don't like Taylor Decker? No, he's on the lines. So what's different? So why don't you like Justin Jefferson? He's going to help your guy out. Justin, you can't engage him. That's the problem. I understand. But I'm, we're in it. What is this conversation? I didn't do this. I didn't say that. He said it. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I still like that. But I do not want him to have a good NFL career because he plays for the Vikings. But I'm not going to go as far to say that I want him to be a Marcus Russell and be viewed as one of the worst NFL boss in his history. I do. Helps Alliance. One less guy to worry about. Yeah. Well, I hope he doesn't have a great career because I don't. But I'm not going to say I want him to be that bad. If he was traded to the AFC, would your opinion change? No, he's in the way. I do it. You're either with us or you're against us. Big facts. You're going to get a Justin Jefferson jersey? No. Why not? You don't want him to do well? It's weird. I don't see. Do you see a password? I don't know. You did it not just this. Do you see a path to what fight your way out for him to be good without the help of Justin Jefferson? I don't see him being good in general. I have major doubts of him as an NFL prospect. Oh, so you want to play both sides. Just like you. What do you mean? Just like you're doing the same thing? You're taking every single thing I say, picking like what is Justin Jefferson have to do with my me liking JJ McCarthy and be still wanting him to not be good in the NFL. How's that playing both sides? Because he I'm trying to say that I hope he has a bad info career, but I'm not trying to put him in the Jamarkas Russell category. And somehow to you, you want him to have some success. I hope he gets his bag. So you want him to have success. Fight your way out, Justin. No, I want him to get his bag. Well, how's he going to get a bag if he doesn't have any success? Quarterbacks do it all the time. Quarterbacks do it all the time. So many mid quarterbacks that continue to get paid off of any type of actual got paid had some kind of season at some point, Justin Fields had some type of season at some point is he going to pay the bag. I mean, he makes millions of dollars in the NFL. That counts as a bag to someone like me. Okay. So does JJ McCarthy? Yeah, they were picked. So I already got his bag. Yeah. Yeah. So I hope and I hope so and that could be the only bag gets it as a career. That'd be fine with me. That's not what you just said. You said you want to see him have success. Don't you fall. Success. I would. I would like to see him have a little bit of success. Okay. And then you want Justin Jefferson to have success. No, I don't. How's he going to success without Justin Jefferson? I am just because there's I don't give a shit about Justin Jefferson because he is someone who I have zero relation with. JJ McCarthy gave me my one of the premiere sports memories of my lifetime and I am still sitting here saying that I hope he is not good for the sake of the lions. So now he's the enemy. He is he is he is the enemy, but I still like him. That's fine. You are also a Spartan. You are a grizzly and you have no relation to JJ McCarthy. Yeah. Oh, I was born. I was born into a Michigan family except when it came time to go to college. Yeah. I can't I couldn't get I couldn't get into Michigan when I transferred from Syracuse straight up. All right. Syracuse? Yes. Okay. I might have to throw in the tile for him. All right. D. Mac, let's go to the scorecard. Shall we go? Go to the chat. You bought a good fight, kid. How does Harold Letterman have this one scored to him back? This one was over early folks have the kid flailing in the corner. Yeah. I got this. KG has the towel waving. The bell. I'm going to ask you as the referee didn't stop it. Yes. 4549. R. J. Graham, Jesus Jefferson. So there's that one in Denver Blair because you're rooting for the rival. Syracuse is pretty cool. Not a lot. I didn't know that. Aaron to the stone. Oh, shit. You're up against a rope. Careful. Now, Jesus Denver Blair stick to hockey, Jesus Lewis fake ass lions fan, Jesus FJ 1967. It's a yes or no question. Cody Engel. You got to stop meat riding JJ's in the NFC north mic drop. Neil wins. You don't want Minnesota life to be successful outside of games against the life. I mean, I'm going to, I mean, there are just a, there are comments coming to me here too. Let's just read the ones who are backing Neil. Here's your show. Here's your out. Okay. Must be the way that the kids these days do it a and B. What else does this guy right? And I mean his age group have to cling to as far as winning anything from any major sports in the city to what like so, so to have a national champ, like this is their first huge win, isn't it? Like so only championship I have ever to whatever, only playoff to whatever else because all your major sports teams and growing up stuck. So I can understand why it means so much because it's, you know, pretty much it's, it's losing his sports championship virginity. He's going to hang that just losses Virginia on the Michigan Wolverines and JJ McCarthy was the key to that's where it'll always be soft in his heart. What are your guys first championships at all? You know, it's probably a professional team Oh, too, but that's the only argument from, from his side. But as this team gets better, you're going to have to make a choice kid. Now it's time for choices. I've seen a time, a time for fence, riding and stuff like this, because the biggest thing it and it's not wishing him ill will, but you know what, the part of Minnesota Vikings. I am not going to be rooting for JJ. I will not be rooting for the Vikings, but there will always be love in my heart for JJ and what he did for me. He's a boss. He's a bomb. He's a bomb. Let's go Red Wings. Not acceptable. Red Wings. As a question, he didn't ask it as a question, but I'll go ahead and ask it as a question. If you really want JJ to do well, then you're also rooting for Aaron Jones. Oh, that's true. Yeah. And TJ Hawkins. And Christian Derishoff. You got that you can get a hot jersey. I just said I wasn't rooting for JJ. I just will always have love for JJ. No, but earlier you did say you did say you wanted to do your success check. Do we need to check the tape? Can we run the tape? We can't rewind the tape. You do not say that. I said that he should get his bag. You like Kevin O'Connell too? Did you not say that? DNC E and D. Here's a good one. KG right now is like the father telling his son the stove is hot, but he touched it anyway. You can lead a horse to water. You can't make him drink, man. Before we get to the break and do the top. You were telling me to keep going. Yeah, but you you should have got the damn water in the first place. Yeah. I was trying to ask on the break was going on because I was trying to do my other job. And then everyone all of a sudden they're like, Oh, you'll see when we start and then I fall right into the trap. Yep. RJ Graham. We need to get jusus a jusus Jefferson jersey. I'm sure it's a different thing. All right. We'll write off with this one DNC and T. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. That's it. Oh, man, the referee. I think it's a referee's fault. The Mac. He didn't stop it sooner. Yeah. Late stop. For sure. Late. The referee is a Neil Slappy. So it's okay. Okay. That ref could have counted to a hundred. Did you still would have been down on that? Tell them about Mark White. I'll tell them about Mark White. That's me because Mark White's going to change your life dreaming of a new home, but feeling the financial pinch. 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All right, keeping a push in big D energy Woodward Sports Network, Neil Rule, Darren McCarty, Jesus, KG, Spencer Raxter, all of you in the Woodward Sports Chat Red. Jump into there, get your thoughts out there. Sam Reynolds. Uh oh. Flannel. You done done it now. I guess now as Michigan fans are no longer allowed to appreciate JJ McCarthy's Michigan career. When did he say that, flannel? Right. That's Michigan derangement system. Thank you. Your syndrome. I'm the victim. Yes. Don't put that on all of us. Get over yourself. I look at JJ as the Friday night booty car. It was great while it was here. It was amazing, but that don't mean I'm wifeing you the next day. Who got bully dark? Uh there's a chat up there right now if you want to. I didn't bully anyone who I did was asked, did you say this, right? It's true. And he did. And he did say it, but he wouldn't admit it. It wouldn't. You ever notice in these conversations I get in, I ask a question and they will not answer. They will not answer. I said yes. I did say that. Okay. Then what are we talking about? I backtrack. You got off the exit. I will. I'm not. You're right. I'm not. You didn't stand on business. I'm not rooting for JJ. But I still have love for JJ. I want the Vikings. I want the Vikings if he is the starting quarterback to go on 16 this year. Okay. That's all we need. Yeah. I want him to go on 16 if he's the backup quarterback, the third string quarterback, the quarterback coach in the organization. Yeah. If he's. I guess it doesn't matter. Yes. I want the Vikings go on 16 every year with his involvement or not. Same thing with the Packers and same thing with the bears. They're a division rival and they're in the way. They ain't good. Good. But they good. Yep. The Dakono Music and Spirits Festival returns to Centennial Park Saturday, August 3rd from 2 to 10 p.m. And it's free live music from the Warren Treaty. Chris Daniels and the Kings is Callie and more. Enjoy a spirits competition. 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He's not a Michigan State fan. Yeah. Yeah. Ideal in fact in reality. That's also a Michigan derangements syndrome. Yeah. If you don't suckle at the team of Michigan, you have to be a State fan. Don't put that on all of this. Steve Wilds and DMACC, I want you're ruling here on this. Steve Wilds, and I think this is important, apologize to Neil Jesus for wasting his time. And Steve, I would follow up and say apologize to the show, your co-workers and the people who take time out of their day, your family, your Michigan degree, oh wait a minute, Western Michigan degree. DMACC, is that fair? There's no degree. I have no degree right now. By the way. Is that fair? Is that fair from Steve? What? Absolutely. You got you got to do the walk of shame. I never said it's a walk of shame. But I like no one else in the room. We got off before the car blew up. You got out. It was spoken. It was fired, but he got out in time. Barely, but he got out. He had to roll. But he should apologize. We told him the engine was fucked up. No, I'm sorry. Put you out. You did. You were trying to tell him he was still driving. Right? I would try it. How would you? I would do it. Oh, man. Top five. Yes. Kruger real quick. Neil. I'm surprised you didn't try to mix in. Aidan Hutchinson into that McCarthy sliner. Why ain't I just in place for a lion? That's my guy. Top five time. Top five. Top five. Top five. Top five things to be traded. It is a top five Wednesday. Let's get it in. The usual rotation, shall we? Yes. Spenty starts. Do you want to do the mock spendy first? Do you want me to do that real quick? Yeah, you can do that. Is that a funny angle? Yeah. Because I'm telling you, you got one of them, right? OK. Let me pull it up here. And let me see where were we at with the top five. And I did. I did like a fantasy, I guess you would say, kind of a mock top five. And where was it? Where was that? Where was that? Where was that? Where were we at? No, it wasn't on that chat, right? We got we got 100 different. You have a lot of big DJ threads. Yeah. Let me see. Yeah. We got it on this. OK, here we go. My best guess at Spenney's list. Number five, money for services. Let's just say it like that. Services. Unnamed services. Yes, absolutely. Number four, sleep with. Number three, positions, trade positions. Nothing wrong with that. Number two, trading for favors. Nothing wrong with that. Quote, would that fall under? Number one, for trading for wives slash girlfriend. I'll sort of fall in the same category. All right. With all that said, Spencer Rachter, your top five things to trade. All right. My top five things to trade list at number five, I have snacks like trading snacks. I remember OK, I used to have kids mortgaging their whole lunches to get a cosmic brownie. Like I'll take give me your orange slices, your fruit roll up half your sandwich. You can have my cosmic brownie at number four. I got sleep. You can trade sleep for a good time. I'll trade every single sleep if I'm having a good time. I even hit the number. Yeah. You know what? It's funny. Wait till you get to be my age. Then you're it's the opposite. You trade anything else for sleep. As of right now, I'm trading out that sleep for good. Oh, we know. Yeah. At number three, I've got Tesla. I traded Tesla. It did me very well. You know, I made a lot of money off the Tesla. So especially that's a that's the symbol for it. I'm a stock. Yeah. And yeah, when that five to one split happened, they're very well with that. And number two, I had nudes in the bag. I'll trade favorite. Nudes. No, nothing wrong with that. It's some nice shots. And then I'm going here at number one, I've got Kadabra or Hunter, because if you trade either Kadabra or Hunter, you will get Al Kazam or Gengar, which are two of the greatest Pokemon of all time. Facts. So yeah, it's factual. I'm not mad at number one. Can you explain that picture, though? That was me dunking on my friend Nick at my graduation party. Nice. Nice. All left handed to poster. Put put the elbow right in his chest. Yeah. I'll beat the chat to it. That's an offensive. That's a clear out. Put him on a post rock. Rock solid, Spenny. A little less devious than I thought of me. I'll give you credit. You got more integrity, more moxie than I gave you credit for. And I, unlike Jesus, will apologize to you. Thank you. Thank you. I was clearly in the wrong. I made assumptions about your character and I was wrong. Jesus. I mean, you make assumptions about my fandom, but that's another story. No, they're right. It's not an assumption when it's right. No. Uh, hitting second, Jesus, top five things to trade. All right. Let's get it. So number five cards and figures. I'm a huge Funko pop collector, which are really comic book figurines. Yeah, I have over you did strike me as a phone call. I have over 300 of them. Jesus. And so I'm a big trader into that. And then obviously, you know, sports guard. I'm trading, shoot, I can't even see that. Oh, trading passes. This is when I'm on the ice. I'm a big, given go guy. I'm a big fan of the give and go. I love it. We'll pass the wing, get it back in the middle of the ice. That's my jam. So three is chirps. Shout out to DMACC. He gave me this one. But yeah, it's always fun. You got to throw it back and forth. So two is meals. When I go out to eat with my girlfriend, we'll both get two entrees and then we'll split it and then we'll eat one entree each. Did you ever do spaghetti and eat the same noodle? No. Okay. We, we, our favorite pasta is gnocchi. So that wouldn't work because it does. It's more of a circle type of noodle. But that doesn't matter. All right. And then one joint for joint just trading joints with each other. Classic outing deal space. Where do we stand on that? Gagey. I like. I'm not mad at that. And there we go. Yeah. All right. That is fair. That was Jesus's top five things to trade DMACC the trading passes and the give and go. That's good. That angle, right? Because you got to pass it to yourself and go back and get it in the corner. Well, that's just a different way. That's that's crime line hot. The good players. Yeah. You've got to pass it to yourself from a hundred feet away. All right, batting third. Mr. K. G. the home run hitter, baby. Let's get things to trade. All right. At number five, of course, cards, any type of cards will do sports cards, Pokemon cards as a spinny alluded to any type of cards. That's always well and good at number four numbers as in phone numbers, trade phone numbers with a certain someone, you know, is always a good time at number three. Hands. I picked hands at number three because I'm a combat sports guy. I partake in boxing, a little UFC here and there. So I don't like to trade the hands, but I will if I have to square up if you need to. Oh, absolutely. But you know who I square up for? Big D energy. Big D energy. Yeah. Mother's fucking time. Let's go. Number two checks because you know what you get when you trade a check. You know what you getting back. So co hard cash, baby. And number one players, man. That is the best thing to trade. If you are a sports fan, it's always a fun time when you're trading for a new player, hopefully a good player. But yeah, players at number one, the biggest reaction to your top five list, a D's four one one. K. G. Is that your wife? It is not. I wish I was for you. That you're right. I have a beautiful wife at home. Shout out to my baby to Shirea. She was not a fan of this picture, but she'll understand this for the business. Now, Michael, I hate to put you on the spot like this. I'm just relaying the message as the quarterback of the show. Michael, according to OJ, she's a white girl. Is that true? She said that is true. She's white. Okay, she's an ally. So, I would say McCarty calling the stage. Derek McCarty said that she already had her meeting. Got her card. All right. I love the last. Oh, there's the fellas. Yeah, the boys pick his legendary right there. Nails in Oswald. Number five, we I mean, we're coming up on the any time you get the swap to whatever else at the level, especially now the outdoor coming in at the end of September and stuff like that in the state. There's a plethora. So, I always look forward to the trade birdies. Your trade birdies on the golf course, usually you want it with your partner. Hopefully you're doing that, but but it's motivating too. And Neil can tell you that if you're in a match where you're both making birdies, you'll both. It's it's funny how you can inspire each other when two guys are playing real well, and you'll see it on tour, but it happens amateur is that you'll feed off each other. So, I like that because it's inspiring. Hands Kenny. Hey, you know those things said, you know, as you see the combat one tag team champions shadowed, I saw Tommy Vendetta in the chat early on Tommy Vendetta third, um, shout out to the boys for getting it done. But that's, you know, sometimes you got to trade hands and maybe get a little marked up, but it happens. Number two chirps. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's just epic. There's no reason to breathe. If not, and number one, one of my favorite things is when I see Jersey trade, when, you know, top players trading with top players or it is pretty cool. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And because then you get to a little bit, you know, who was inspired by, you know, who and stuff like that, not always happen when I went to Braylon's house and then looked at his Jersey collection from his Jersey swaps. Yeah, she was pretty cool. Not big and hockey, but it's big and, uh, yeah, it's not in hockey. You just go get it and ask her to sign it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you get what you don't ask. Yeah. That's not it is football. It's, it's yeah. He's a respect thing. He's got some he's got some gems down in his basement. He's fucking sweet. I saw the Randy Moss one. I was like, oh, that's no. Yeah. It is pretty cool. What's the coolest one you, you have DMACC, even if you just went and got it and then got it signed. Wayne. Oh, yeah. That's a standard man. All right. That's so great. I really beat that. I've always told DMACC this and I don't do that. Maybe like if, if a friend or a friend's dad wants a picture, I'll bring the picture and have DMACC sign up for him. I don't ask him for that kind of stuff. But if Wayne's going to be in town, the I'm ringing just so you know, I'm ringing that. Cool. I'm ringing that bell. I'm telling you now that it might be in because he's linked that we usually do something with MGM at TPC reservoir once a year. So yeah, if it's Wayne or Sergei, I'm going to ring that bell. Oh, I heard just for everybody else. I heard a rumor that Sergei was in town. Oh, I know that I know he's have enough. It was a potoski's where Federer's brother owns the ring. Yeah, I skate with him. Yeah. Yeah. I will. And but I saw a picture. Oh, yeah. A picture. Dante 151. So I did that was for you. Thank you. A couple of Jews attacks in here. Jews as the Packers, Bears and Vikings can all go 0 and 17, but they can all go 0, 13 and 4 in a 17 game season. And no mention about trading video games. That's it. You're right. I almost put that on there, but that's like that keep man. Tell me you're telling me you're old without telling me you're old. There's just no batting back in the back. No, back in the day trading VHS tapes. Yeah. I fight tape wrestling tapes. Oh my God. Yeah. That was the best. That was a blast. Now you don't need to. Also, too, in the chat, Keto for the win says Justin, you should have said Kirk Cousins. You know, seeing how you're a Vikings fan. Where's the relevance in that? Trade because it makes a path easier for your guy, JJ McCarthy to become the starting quarterback. All he's got to do is beat Sam Darnell, which you can't really know. Cool. You can't even beat out Sam Darnell. So how the hell was he supposed to beat out Kirk Cousins? He's a bum. And I'd rather have Sam Darnell or JJ McCarthy playing quarterback Danker Cousins on the Viking because they are definitely worse with the latter. So he's a bum. Before I get to mine, DMACC, I was just thinking about it. If I were going to get a sign Gretzky jersey, there's a portion of me that wants the Black L.A. King. I was going to say that. Yeah. Yeah. I got the old school or one. Yeah. Because that's where I grew up, you know, I mean, 80s and whatever watching them and stuff. But that'd be great. Black L.A. King's one. That'd be awesome. But I don't know. I think I'd have to be leaning towards the Oilers jersey. Like that is just that is the iconic jersey. Like for me. In my personality. Do you got a little individuality complex? The Black L.A. King's one. I think it's, you know, Hollywood is 100%. Yeah. 100%. He mentioned it to the bigger part of the game because that moved to that jersey exemplified the growth of hockey and and you're about, you know, it was a huge moment in high. That would be happy. As you say, I'll type that that beyond brand 100% of it. All right. What do you got? All right. My top five things to trade. Number five. Second round. Number five. Second round picks. Nice. Second round picks are they're great DMACC. They are because the team that traded them says, well, it's just a second round pick. And the team that gets them says, we got, we got some second round picks, too. Dammit. Like it fits. It is the ultimate narrative. Second round picks are usually part of the glue. 100% teams. That's why you need it. And they're valuable. Well, I'm sorry. I was a second rounder. And they're valuable. They're invaluable. They're invaluable. But they're valuable. Yes. It fits both sides. I think it is underrated. Because here's the thing. Trade. With the second round where it doesn't matter. And I guess in basketball, you guys all tell me that that doesn't count. But in all the other sports, because it's not, it's that four star guy. Or maybe a guy that could be borderline five star. But there's some issue or something. You have to know this is where like you get into the meat and potatoes as sort of the engine of your team. Because it's a second and third rounders and fourth red that that's what would make it go. The Dakono Music and Spirits Festival returns to Centennial Park Saturday August 3rd from 2 to 10 p.m. And it's free live music from the Warren Treaty. Chris Daniels and the Kings is Callie and More. Enjoy a spirits competition. Kidzone and fireworks presented by Oxy and the City of Dakono. Admission and parking are free. 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I just think it's very versatile because you can use it to craft your narrative either way. Excuse me. Number four. I would say this one insult slash mom jokes. My group of friends. I got a group of four of us that have been friends since since high school, literally since high school. The mom jokes on the text thread. I would be embarrassed if my wife read them. For real. I would be embarrassed if your wife read them or your mom read them. Oh, okay. Yeah. But your wife first. Yeah. Both. Yeah. Yes. I would be. This is becoming a lost art, man. People are too sensitive. Oh, we are you kidding me. Oh, it is. Ripping to you. It's a vicious. No, I feel you vicious. Everybody has a group chat like that. It is absolutely vicious. And I'll leave it at that. Number three, expiring contract. It's become the thing in the NBA. Yeah. That is a commodity. That is true. The expiring command, the expiring contract has become a commodity. Yeah. It's in the second round pick family. It's just become a little more valuable. That's what I think anyway. Number two stocks. Yeah. I mean, of course, don't a if you're tech heavy, don't take a look at the market today. But hey, we've been on a run for a couple of years now in the tech sector. So we're doing very, very well. And but a love trading stock, man. It's the ultimate scoreboard. You get rewarded for your opinion or you're penalized for your opinion. One of the two, there's only two outcomes that happen. Love trading stock. And number one, baseball cards. That was the precursor to trading stocks for me. When I was a kid, we would just all get together and just trade baseball cards. Yeah. Because there were only three brands. The packs were only like a buck. And you got gum. And you and you stood on business with who the guys that you liked. Yeah. And that was it. It was an electric time. It was a simpler time, D-Mac. Was you one of them kids that put the baseball card in the spokes? Or are you? Is that before your time? I did that. We did that. Yeah. That was slightly before me. You know, wasted thousands of dollars. We had a bunch of gut skis in there and stuff. Would you try a hidden valley ranch candy corn? No. Would you? I would pay you. No. If somebody paid me, I'd try it. If you say no, then I'm going to say no. Oh, man. No chance. Absolutely. No chance. That is what's candy corn. Yeah. Do you see the picture? Send it to my eyes. Yeah. Yeah. She's disgusting. Dude, I love ranch candy corn ranch. That's gross. You're a nasty ass if you would eat. I know Neil's the president, but does he get penalized for his list, including sports? Because I'm just aware that top fives were not supposed to be about sports. And I've gotten ripped twice for going online on rules. Just the best I've joined. You should be back before you try to watch something. Oh, no. I'm just saying. Do you not? No. What have you not figured out? Like, I mean, he's the president. I understand the rules for the president that it is. Yeah. And I precursor that. Jesus. We are all treated the same here differently. Yes. Listen, me and spinny are crick. Yes. This is depot. And you're a little Chris. Yes. Not going over them garbage can. All right. Where were we? Oh, Katie K law, everybody. That's right. Hey, a lot of you right now, we're going to get serious now. A lot of you right now are going through some kind of family law thing, some kind of divorce thing, some kind of child custody thing criminal law as well. You need excellence on your side. Katie K law over 10 years in the game. Katie K law 24 seven availability. You are losing sleep right now thinking about this stuff. Let's be real about it. Scan the QR code on your screen. And it all goes away. Scan the QR code on your screen. Tell them what were sports sent you. Katie K law will pay your filing fee. Don't lose another second sleep. A lot. 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I got in on the ground floor of all this and technology as a whole. I'm more index fund based technology as a whole is never going anywhere. Yeah. It's never going anywhere. So I'm in at a level that I'm comfortable with where I will, I will check back at this on the day I retire. I don't really pay too much attention of it day to day unless I get an alert and I'll say, Oh, that sucks or all that's awesome. But then like, I go about my day, like this is a 25 year play technology field isn't going anywhere. Whether it's, I mean, look at like spending talked about Tesla, they're just at the snap of a finger going to go from EVs to robotics. Whatever it is, whatever it is, is going to change and evolve all the time, whether it's AI, electric cars, robots, self driving, self flying planes, self driving trucks, all of it's always going to evolve. So that's why I'm in on the, on the index factor. My DMACC, this, I got this from my tiger's text thread buddies. Mark Cana is receiving significant interest in the trade market right now. His trips to the plates against lefties, Cana's hitting 300 with a 415 on base percentage with a 478 slugging percentage. Well, that's good. Yep. So here's the deal. And this is important. This is important, guys. And you've heard me. Alavilla was a degenerate at his job. I will cut him a pass on the teardown because he was following orders. This, the mark cana trade to me, if he gets traded first DMACC is the most critical trade that I will see because it will tell me what the mission is. And here's the most important paragraph in this story from MLB trade rumors. Cana still has about 4.2 million of this season's salary yet to be paid out. That number will be 3.8 million by Tuesday's deadline. A potential trade partner might not want to cover the full freight of the salary in exchange for the 35 year old who will probably be a platoon player on a good team. But if the Tigers cover some of the salary, it's easy enough to see why a contending club would want to add a productive rightie who can play multiple spots on the diamond that hits 300 against lefties. How cheap is he? That will tell me everything I need to know. Because if I'm the Tigers, and if you're real, I'm going to maximize what I can get. And how do I maximize it? We'll pay it all. Yeah. That's only 3.8. We'll pay it all. So instead of giving us your number 18 prospect, give us your number 12. That's not even a whole day of hot and riddies. Come on now. You see what I'm saying here? And that's most people aren't. You're not going to hear this on another network. You're not. No one's no one's going to talk to you about it like this. But DMACC, I'm telling you, this will tell me the mark can a trade will tell me how they're going to operate. If they operate like a villa with the same. Are we trying to get better or are we trying to shed money? That's a little Chris. Go ahead, hit you. Little Chris knocking over them garbage cans. But DMACC, you feel me on this? I do 100%. 100%. So it's a pivotal time. No, it absolutely is. So I guess what I'd be looking at is who needs, you know, what's the team that has strong just off top of my head who's got the left-handed pitching or whatever? Where would he go? And what are the prospects in that organization? Right? So, you know, is it a Dodger thing? Is it a, you know, is it a Baltimore? Is it where where would it go? And then you can start looking to see who do they have and who would fit in. So there's so much, I guess to your point, there's so many things that that this move will tell you. Do you think that what they do with this move, it'll be able to tell you what they're what they're going to do short term or long term with the, we always talk about school of clarity and stuff like this? I think, I think it tells you the philosophy, the philosophy. Okay. And because that's why this is so key, because this will tell you the philosophy of this regime, right? Where we can't, we always say, well, it's not our villa and hold it to that. But again, if we see the results like Al got, hence, giving it away and saving money, we'll have things really changed. And where does it come from? There you go. And here's another one. Before we cut to the break, here's another one. And this is, this is noteworthy in name only. Jack Flaherty is receiving entry. The prime team that's involved right now, the Philadelphia Philly, with Dave Dombrowski. Okay. Let me see Scott Harris getting the water with Dave Dombrowski. I want to see where he's at. I want to see where he's at. The Browski is a shark, man. And again, the philosophy will tie into the return. How much of the money you're paying, because teams that are up there that are, you know, like luxury tax level teams, it's imperative for them to shed money, because they're going to be paying three times that amount of money. So show me again, A, what's the philosophy? Because you could, I bet you could get, because I always said it when we talked about the trade deadline stuff with Flaherty, I think ultimately, if it's dollar for dollar, you'll be disappointed with what you get. I do believe that. However, if the Tigers are going to pay it all, or 75% of it, which exponentially lowers the amount of money the acquiring team has to pay, because they're going to be taxed out. Then now we're tough. Now we're talking just, just something to keep your eye on. Has Chris learned his lesson. Yeah. What are we talking about here? You know what I'm saying? Are we going to do this really again? Again, I'm not overselling this to you guys. This trade deadline is the biggest moment of this franchise in almost a decade. Tell me I'm wrong. Because it's going to turn the lights on in the room. We're going to see show us, as Rose would say, what are you doing? What are you about? So again, I just want to, I just want to speak on it. Fourteen million dollars. So we're roughly what two thirds of the way through the season. Five million ish. Yeah. You're going to eat a good portion of it to improve your return. Or are you on bullshit? We don't see. We don't see. You're absolutely right. Sorry, late for the break. Tell them about Randy White. Absolutely. How would you like to play the University of Michigan course with Braille and Edward? I just did. Fund it. You can too. It's Randy White. So if you don't do a register today, you can round off the four some atwoodwoodsports.com or scan the code on the screen right up there. When it comes to your next car truck, make the wise decision, Randy Wise Automotive. 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There's layers to this. There's levels to this. Phil in your opinion Neil. I don't know. Yeah that's literally what I get a paycheck for. That's what we do here Phil. Kevin Bell. Neil is trying to throw shit bigger than the wall against the wall. What? I told you the reasoning. I have agreement from some people in the room. You watch Sunday Night Baseball for Christ's sake. You're a qualified baseball guy. I don't care if you don't know any about the time. It's simple here. You watch Sunday Night Baseball. It's simple history. How we did it before when we had guys that other teams coveted or whatever it was a money save. Are we still in a money save? Is that the priority from the owner or is it Scott Harris? Do your thing. There's different ways to find that out. Flaherty's one. Cannas another. Let's see what the return is. When is the trade deadline? Next Tuesday. Yeah. So. Well we're sports chat thread. William Turnbull. Move them to the Phillies. You might get fleas. I didn't notice when I brought that up about Flaherty with the Phillies. I noticed the physiology in the room changed. Like shoulder sunk. That stuff like that. I told you. Is there. Are we competent? It's sort of like Dombrowski and Isaac. I think it saved Dombrowski. It's sort of like but the only way out through. So I want to see Scott Harris make that deal with him and show that it's different. If he's got the rain to be the G.M. and it's just about return because what does he like? Also flannel has said this a couple times too. You just said in the chat. All over here is how trash Marcan is. I don't I don't hear that. Like realistically. I've never heard that like Neil is I don't think his names come up. He gets sure on the show on the morning show about Mark his Marcan it takes I'd say that's mostly chat motivated. Yeah. Flint like that opinion. There's a lot of other issues on this team in the Marcan. And obviously if he's coveted by contending teams right for how he's bad is strictly against left-handers. That's what you need. You know he's not a starter on a playoff team but he's coming off the bench, Neil. With those numbers. So what can you get in return? Absolutely. So again because I think that it I felt it in the room man. Like you're going up against the heavyweight now. Dombrowski is a shark man. Yeah he is. But he's also somebody known to deplete a farm system as well. Right. So we'll see. Right. Which is maybe why you want to deal with them. Because you know he's going to throw it an extra guy. Exactly. I mean Kana does have under a one war and is hitting 236 with seven home runs. I think that's what Sam's talking about. Like let's not let's not act like he's been joined Amaggio. No but I mean there's other but he's not the he's he's in the middle of whatever it is. Yeah. That's what I said. The number that you look at is his against left. That's all it is. You're talking about what are you going to trade for? Mark Kana might draw some walks but he is not your savior. Correct. No but you need him off the bench. We need him off the bench as a playoff team. He's got to come off the bench hit a lefty for a key hit or table set or whatever like that. Yep. And teams when they know that that's what they need. It's so tight at the top. Yeah. Yeah. I do watch Sunday night baseball. I do see how these games go. Um since people are getting into it Kevin Bell if you trade anyone trade mice. Spenny you're the resident mice fan. Why would you trade? You're not going to get anything. Absolutely nothing for him. Thank you. You don't trade at the lowest. Uh Michael the Tigers might get a bag of spaldings for Kana. Michael I gave you the scenario. I was told that I'm throwing shit against the wall. Right. But you control your return for Mark Kana. Yeah. You do. That's what I want people in this town to understand. That it this isn't a Madden trade machine. You control your return to some degree in baseball trades. How much you take him? The Mets did it last year. They took tons of money from Scherzer and Verlander because I want your best prospects because we're not dicking around here. And you can't come out of five million. 96 is one thing but five. Come on. That's it. That's it. And if that's that would be the difference between getting a team's like I said something team prospect to 10. 15 to 10. 18 to 12. Something like that. That's the difference. Um Alan W we might get the lowest ranked prospect in the MLB for Kana. Not if he's free. If you're if they got to pay the whole salary plus their luxury tax, you're right. You're absolutely right. They will give you nothing nor should they. So yeah. Um all right. Let's do the final break. I had two more things I wanted to get to. We'll do it in the in the last segment. 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No, give this a look. The Oregon Docs, University of Oregon, is elite at marketing. They put a huge blow up dot ho in the river in Indianapolis. Okay, just floating a huge inflatable flow. Welcome to the Big 10. Yeah. Not mad at it. Not mad at it. That is awesome. D Mac. That is awesome. That is awesome. Electric Oregon's here, man. I do you still believe that? It's weird. It is wack. It's literally like the NCAA game now. Like it won't feel real until it's a big 10 game. Like big noon kick and it's like Oregon versus Rutgers like Rutgers or something like that. That's when it will truly hit me because nothing says big 10 football like Rutgers, right? Woodward's sports, Chathra, Dawa, Tourette's, the Orioles have to trade for school. Right? They're going to lose burns in the off season. There isn't a pitcher other than burns. They'd pay they'd pay money for in the free agency market. Sure, sir. And I don't know if they'll lose burns in the off. I don't either. No, they're their ownership is not trifling. Yeah. I think burns confirmed that he's not returning to the team or his agent to it. Well, I mean, that's his job. Oh, yeah. But just saying that's his job. It is out there. We'd trade school and then sign birds. That's what I was thinking. And then sign school back and flirty back. There you go. And bring Scherzer home. Whoa, bring them home. You don't know who you are for later, too. Yeah, Max Freed's out there. Slow your row, guys. That's a little Chris. Slow your row. DNC ENT. Jameson Williams reportedly puked mid-stride after finishing a touchdown catch. Took a brief knee, wiped off the puke and got back to work. That is a true football player. Yeah, flannel. Yeah, flannel. E-Mac. And there. Just playing a flannel. E-Mac. Tell me about puking at training camp, please. Yeah, it happens. It happens. Maybe, you know, that's to get all the demons out from the night before maybe. Or the summer. A little bit different back in the day. Stuff like that. But stuff like that happens. You know, like when we were growing up, we'd get backscated, like, not in pro, but in junior or something like that. The object was to try to be cute, just to push it to your garbage cans around the ring. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. For sure. But guys usually did like, yeah, dude, some guys would do it on purpose before they went out after, you know, night out. Because do it on your term. They knew it was common. Get it over with. That's, I remember those days, like, you're in, you wake up spending, you can probably speak to this. You wake up and you're like, it's going to happen at some point. Might as well do it now. Amazing. Well, I want to do it on my term. You see, I'm not in New York. And as a professional athlete, it's part of your threshold to whatever. You almost have to do it. You know what I mean? To kick that next gear when you always hear, like, game shape and field shapes different than, you know, no matter what it is getting on the ice or getting in the ring or on the field or whatever like that. So, I mean, hell of a touchdown celebration. But, you know, what are you going to do? Yep. Again, you didn't hear he caught a ball and ran for a touchdown. That's all the math you golly wants. He should be cool and that should be his thing. Now, Steve, I guess that was another touchdown that he had multiple touchdowns already in practice for Jameson Williams. Is Jamie Wille beam, but he should be Stephen Wille beam. Yeah, Bolton Poncey says, Jamie, some Williams at the highlight of the day, splitting two lines, defenders downfield and creating massive separation for a wide open touch. All the secondary still sucks. I'm going to ask. Well, I mean, Carlton Davidson and me, Robinson are both here. Well, Jamie was just I'm around St. Brown on JMO. He just looks more comfortable. He looks like he's down. He's done this before. I'm telling y'all. Oh, you mean like he had reps and games and eat a dick, flannel. And he's actually an option in the offense. Flannel is getting that jersey. They're going to get him the pill you're saying. Yeah. That's what it looks like. DMACC, what are you going on this weekend, man? A lot of stuff tonight. If anybody's a self line, doing a comedy show, my boy camera, what's up dinner in a dinner in a show six o'clock. I think it opens. Tommy's at seven. Okay, I'll be well, I'll be I'll be over in Windsor border city wrestling. Tommy, I're going to go. You're going through a table. No, you putting someone through a table? Are you are you done going through table? I'm for the most part. You're talking to the manager of the tag team champion for the most part and then flop house. Actually, if anybody's downtown Saturday night at the old Miami, if you ever bring the old Miami downtown in the atrium or whatever, we got flop house wrestling. One of the most fun wrestling shows outdoor downtown Detroit. Nice. So if you're down there, come and check it out. Here it is. These Shaquille oatmeal, please don't tell me with the revamped secretary. We're still getting cooked. Y'all got to come up off of that, man. It's a first day training camp, guys. All right, two pieces of the revamped secondary aren't practicing. And Jamie was just that damn good. I'm telling you me wrong. Bro, only thing I'm not going to I know what I know what I saw. If I know what I saw on college, I know what I saw when the ball gets in his hands. I know what I saw. All I gotta do is stay healthy. Yeah, flannel. All right. Be back at it tomorrow, everybody, for DMACC, for KG, Spencer Rax, your Jews, insomnia rules. Thanks for tapping in big D energy. What was sports network? Well, see you later. 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