It's July, so grab hold, Miranda! This week, El'Ahrai, John, and fifth Beatle Cati Glidewell review "Twisters", "The Fall Guy: Extended Cut", and "Widow Clicquot"! Plus rumblings of dissolutions, home video picks, questions, and more! Tell me and you and everyone we know to listen! I don't want to have to do this living. I just walk around. I want to be swept off my feet, you know? I want my children to have magical powers. I am prepared for amazing things to happen. I can handle it.
The Neon Movie Bunker
The Neon Movie Bunker -- Episode 353
(upbeat music) - Welcome to another episode of The Neon Movie Bunker. I'm John Robinson. - And I'm Alex Dannick. - And we're here to talk about movies. - And Warner Bros. - Yeah, Warner Bros. Discovery is in the news this week. - For something good? - No. - Oh, well. - I don't even have a witty retort to that. Just, no. Of course not. I'm considering this article that I'm about to read from Deadline is primarily about the actions of David Zastloff. - Ah, yes. - Under the headline, Warner Bros. Discovery mulling split to boost stock price. Warner Bros. Discovery is reportedly looking to break off its streaming and studio businesses from its linear networks to energize its falling stock price. WBD stock closed Wednesday at $8 and 34 cents. Up 30, up 34 hundreds of percent. But the comedic company is down for its 52 week high of 1476 and currently has a $20.3 billion market cap. WBD CEO, David Zastloff, toy, is apparently weighing myriad options from selling assets to separating the movie studio and Mac streaming service into a new company free from the group's current near $40 billion debt. - Wow. What's the line? When I owe you $40,000, I have a problem. When I owe you $40 billion, you have a problem? - Something along those lines, yeah. - This is all per the financial times. Deadline has reached out to Warner Bros. Discovery for comment, we'll update when they weigh in. The news hits as WBD is making another round of layoffs as Deadline reported first. In addition, longtime media analyst Jessica Reif-Ehrlich two days ago begged WBD to do something, anything, from selling the company to selling assets to finding streaming joint venture or merger. Quote, "In our view, the current composition "as a consolidated public company is not working. "The Bank of America Global Research Analyst said." This, a lot of this gets into kind of the high end Wall Street financial talk of things that we don't really like getting into, but it's still, it's numerous weathery enough that we have to. - Yeah. - The WBD situation isn't the same as Paramount Global, whereby a suitor such as Sony or Skydance Media could swoop in and absorb WBD in its entirety. Paramount Global has $14 billion in long-term debt, WBD's $39 billion load is a whole different ball of wax. No sound corporation wants to get into business with that. However, bits and pieces picked up by the right media company could work. Per reports, WBD hasn't hired an inventsman to explore such a transaction, but has been speaking with consultants to figure out what's best for shareholders. John Malone and the Newhouse Family are WBD's biggest investors. There's also a path whereby a WBD could opt to just stay the course as is. WBD at one point sat down with then Paramount Global CEO, Bob Bakisch, last December of his headless hit about merger talks. That marriage was never going to happen. The notion of a WBD split could see debts stay with linear networks while growing the over-the-top streaming service could hit a higher valuation multiple and be given the potential to invest in its growth. For financial times. WBD is among the major motion picture studios who've committed to launching expensive streaming services with all the attendant technology headaches, content costs, talent issues, and brand at repositioning that entails. Compounding problems are declining at market as well as the aftermath of COVID and last year's double Hollywood strikes. Warners has had a sour summer at the box office with the string of flops, including Furiosa, Horizon in American Saga, chapter one, and The Watchers. That said, they had a rich spring with legendaries due in part two in Godzilla X, Kong, the new empire. The Zastlaw era of WBD has seen a tremendous amount of cuts and layoffs in an effort to pay down debt. In February, shares declined 10%. After company CFO Gunnar Wiedenfeld said he wasn't giving a free cashflow outlook for the year. This deal was dumb when it was announced. And it has not gotten any smarter in the intervening years. - Yeah, no. - I don't know what David Zastlaw does well, that he's a billionaire at this point. - Check other people into giving him money? - Well, that is the American way, but yeah, it's, and it's unfortunate because, you know, WBD Legacy Studio, there's so much great memories associated with it. - Mm-hmm. - And with a possible exception of Disney, which is probably never, or never again, going to hit the level of disrespect that Warner is marinating in right now. - Mm-hmm. - I think Warner is also the one that can most easily bounce back from it, probably. As much as I dislike referring to movies and their value as intellectual property, let me give you three intellectual property reasons why Warner can probably turn at least the reputation around quick. - Okay. - In no particular order. Actually, how about this for, in a particular order, in terms of how soon we'll see the product? - Yeah. - Superman. - Yeah. - Batman. - Mm-hmm. - And what was the highest grossing movie of last year? That's right, Warner Brothers Barbie. - Yeah. - So, they've got the, they've got the characters/content/universe/whatever you want to say to be able to bounce back quickly if the movies are good enough. - Mm-hmm. - It's just a matter of if the movies will be good enough. - Right. And Superman's gonna be the one that's up first, coming a little less than a year from now at this point. - Mm-hmm. - We certainly think it's in good hands. - Yeah. - So, you know, we'll see, but they just... - Dumb business decision after dumb business decision. - Mm-hmm. - All in the name of chasing profit. - Yep. - Speaking of intellectual properties. - Yeah. - A story surfaced this week that... Justin Daniel Kretten, or whatever his name was, a guy who made... - John G. - Yeah. Was at one point scheduled to make Avengers 5, - Mm-hmm. - Kang Dynasty. - Yeah. - He has stepped away from that. - Okay. - Subsequently. And a story surfaced this week that there may be an announcement about new directors on Avengers 5 and Avengers Secret Wars, which are on the schedule for Marvel. - Yeah, for 26 and 27. - Mm-hmm. - The name, actually names that surfaced are Joe and Anthony Russo, who made Infinity War and Endgame and a couple of the Captain Maricots, et cetera. - Yeah. - Screen rant, polish an article a day or two ago. Headline, Avengers 5 and 6 Russo Brothers Directing Report clarified by Kevin Feige. - Mm. - He'd know. - Indeed. While joking about there always being different names up in the year for the Avengers movies, Feige said the following. No, I can't comment on it except to say it was somebody else a couple of weeks ago and I look forward to seeing who it is going to be next week. We'll see. - Okay then. - No. - Not cryptic at all. - No. - No. Feige has certainly played the koi game before of maybe, maybe not. That said, I'm reasonably sure we'll have an answer in a week when we record the next show, yes. - Yeah. - 'Cause there's something coming up this upcoming week. It's in far southern California. San Diego Comic Con. - They tend to announce a few things there. - Especially when they have a hall-age panel scheduled. - Yep. - Like they do this here. - Mm-hmm. - So, we will see. I guess is what I will say 'cause there's no way Feige's going to spill any kind of beans ahead of that. - Right. - Right. - Right. - You know, you can speculate are the deals done or the deals not done. Honestly, we can, or it's seven days. We can wait. - Yeah. - Unless you get a cryptic phone call that just says seven days after watching the strange video tape, you'll be here next week to find out. So. - Oh. That's what that seven days meant. - Uh-oh. - Well. I will be reporting back on this next week the production quality of the show may drop significantly, but you know, we'll figure something out. - Yeah. Yeah. We'll have news next week there. I mean, it's Comic Con. There's going to be all sorts of news coming out of every place. - Oh, yeah. Yeah. - So we will be happy to comment on all that on the impending episode three fifty four. This is three five three, right? - Yep. - But yeah, keep listening and we'll report on everything next week. Everything we know, we'll speculate on things we don't know. We'll talk about the knowns. We'll talk about the known knowns, the known unknowns and the unknown unknowns. - Ooh. - How rum's filled in. Hey, we've got an email address that we do. That email address is mail@neonmoviebunker.com. - Of course, that's not the only way to reach us. - There is Facebook.com/neonmoviebunker, which is our Facebook page, and that is a place with which we can be communicated. Then there's Twitter.com/neonmoviebunker, or @neonmoviebunker, if you only have 280 characters. And then I am @JohnNMB on the Twitter. And then there is @neonmoviebunker.besky.social, if you have 300 characters. - Ooh. - And then I'm on Letterbox, is user JohnNMB. I actually posted not just a scene at check-in on something that I'm going to comment on a little later in the show, but I actually added a line of text. - Ooh. - Which is unusual for something that I have not yet actually reviewed into this year's microphone. - Okay, then. - And then, of course, please subscribe to the show in Apple Podcasts, or YouTube, or Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. And then there's www.neonmoviebunker.com, which is our website with all the stuff and the things, including the web exclusive long-form Maureen Ryan interview, which I hope people are listening to because it's awesome. - It is. - And then twitch.tv/neonmoviebunker is our event space, which is a place where things sometimes, not often, but sometimes happen. So, we are joined once again by our friend, colleague, and all around neat person, Katie Gladwell, the blonde in front. - Hello, hello. - Hey, Katie. - We've got movies to talk about, and we are, in fact, going to do that at this point, I think. - I think so. - First up, we have Twisters, directed by Le Isaac Chung, screenplay by Mark L. Smith, based on a story by Joseph Kacinski, based on characters created by Michael Crichton and Anne-Marie Martin, stars Daisy Edgar-Jones, Glenn Powell, Anthony Ramos, David Corin sweat, Harry Haddon Patton, Sasha Lane, Daryl McCormick, Kiernan Shipka, Katie O'Brien, and others. - Ooh. - Yes? - Others. - They're in a lot of movie. - So many credits. - Oh, yeah. - We start, while back, Kate is working on her degree in meteorology at a college in Oklahoma, Muskegee State, and she has an idea to try and stop tornadoes. - Okay. - I mean, not prevent them. - Right. - But once they formed, she has this hypothesis about if we can get this sodium polyacrylate up into them, perhaps it will suck all the moisture out of them, and they'll just kind of dissipate. - Okay. - So she and her team, including Jeb and Eddy and Praveen, get into a van and go chasing. Harvey stays back at the other van and helps to direct things and tracks the data and whatnot. This is, well, like I said, it's a while back. We'll find out how soon in a second, but they see, okay, there's one. It looks like it'll be an EF-1. We can do this. So they go driving and activate the attempted introduction of this chemical into the tornado. Only it wasn't an EF-1. It was more of an EF-5. And, well, four people got in the van and went chasing. One person came out. - Ooh, that doesn't sound good. - Especially not for those three, one of whom was Kate's boyfriend. - Uh-oh. - Yeah. So five years later comes the caption on the screen. Kate is living in New York, writing the subway to her job at the National Weather Service. And, well, trying to get over the PTSD from watching three of her friends get sucked out into the wild blue yonder never to be seen again. And then one day, Kate should walk back into her office, but Harvey. Remember, Harvey, who sat and collated the data? And he spent some time in the military. It's very, very specifically non-specified, the military. - Okay. - Doesn't say, yeah, I joined the army. He says, no, I joined the military. - No, right. - He worked with a phased array radar, P-A-R, while he was there, that he thinks could have applications for storm tracking, storm chasing, storm understanding. - Okay. - But he needs, he's got backing, he's got the equipment, but he doesn't have is someone who's the best he ever saw, at predicting where the storms are going to come from and where they're going to go. - Okay. - So, he twists Kate's arm into spending a week with him in Oklahoma during storm season to try and test his equipment and whatnot. Eventually, she exceeds to his request/demand/gilt trip. - Yeah, yeah. - Otherwise, very short movie. - Mm-hmm. - And much sadder ultimately, 'cause three people died. Come out and do it again. - Yeah. - No, credits. - Yeah. - So, she gets there. And, uh, there's, you know, setting up in the first line of storms. She meets Javier's team, who are professionalized to one degree or another. - Okay. - Most particularly Scott, who went to MIT and played by David Korn sweat and, um, is, well, at least at first he just comes off as a bit of a stick in the mud. - Okay. - But there are worse things that happen to him. And then there, so they're getting ready to start chasing the storms. And in roles, Tyler Owens and his crew. Tyler Owens is played by Glenn Powell. - Mm-hmm. - And he is a storm chaser with an incredibly popular YouTube channel. - Okay. - And is not exactly what you'd call beloved among the more serious meteorological community. And would you believe there's conflict between Tyler and Kate? - You don't say. - What? - I know. Who could have ever predicted such a thing. - Never saw that happening. - I know, right? And, uh, well, he, she, they talk a little bit before the storm starts and trying to decide which cell to follow. And she tells him, oh, that one over there, those are going to cancel each other out. It's this one here that's good. That's got the, the good. So we're going to follow this one. And he says, okay. Sounds like we'll do that too. She then walks back to her team and says, no, we're following the other one. And, uh, tries to make Tyler look foolish. Oh, dare she. And Tyler's crew is much more ragtag, much more freewheeling, much less professionalized. - Gotcha. - But they've got some interesting tricks up their sleeve shooting fireworks into a tornado, for example. - To achieve. - Coolness. - Oh. - So they, the first storm happens and it doesn't quite work out for Harvey and Kate's crew because they, they have to triangulate the tornado, by which I mean they have to take three trucks each with a piece of equipment to get a truck, put them in a triangle around the tornado to get the proper mapping to it that they want. And they get two of them in place and the last one is Harvey and Kate's truck. And the winds are ripping around and they try to get the piece of equipment out of the truck and Kate freaks out and drives the truck away and. - Leaves, Harvey there? - No, but she's obviously having experiencing the whole PTSD thing about being back in the storm and all that. - Yeah. - Harvey appropriately kind of blows up at her. And things advance and there's another, next day's more, brings more storms and Tyler goes chasing and live streaming through YouTube and Kate gets a little bit of a sense of what he's about. - Does the romance blossom? - Kinda. - Euler. - It is pointed toward, it is never exactly made explicit or the ending definitely points in that direction. - Okay. - Yes, spoiler. - There are some strong feelings, much like an F3, but does it get to an F5? Maybe it's a bit of an F1, EF1, but I don't know. - But they start warming up to each other. He can see that she's really bright and is maybe under appreciated by Harvey and Harvey's crew. - Okay. - They go to a rodeo together because they're stuck in this bunk town and there's not much to do. - Why not go to a rodeo? - Exactly. So they go to the rodeo and then storm hits the rodeo. Big storm. Like big destructive, the arena where they're having the rodeo isn't there by the end of it kind of thing. But the two of them work together to save as many people as they can, which is not as many as either would have liked, but you know, it's your classic "you had the wrong idea about me" thing. They end up at Kate's mom's house / farm. And all of Kate's experiments are still in the barn and he starts looking at her notebooks and says, "You had this idea?" "Modeling slept better now. We can give this a shot." You want to give this another try? Because he's for all his bluster and bravado and cowboy tough. He is actually a certified educated meteorologist and he speaks the science and they try it and it doesn't work the first time, but they figure out, "Well, maybe this assumption is wrong maybe." And this leads to my favorite scene in the entire movie. This is something I will take with me to my grave. I love it so much. For me, it's reminiscent of a scene you know I'm really fond of which is the luggage scene from Joe versus the volcano. They go to a trailer sales yard. And one of Tyler's crew lays out this absurd request that they need to be able to... We need a trailer, but it needs to hold 40 barrels, 40, 300 pound barrels full of sodium polyacrylate, but it needs to be light enough that it can be pulled by a truck and not get bogged down or flip over or anything like that. And the salesman asks a legitimate question, "What do you need that for?" And the person who's on Tyler's team was talking asks, "Kate, yeah, what do we need that for?" And Kate says, "We're going to try and shut down a tornado." And this is the bit I love. The trailer salesman thinks for a second and then says, "You're going to want aluminum." Okay. In that kind of... I have not actually planned for this day, but my expertise on this subject is so strong, even this absurd request doesn't necessarily phase me. I know what you... what you need and what we're going to want to do with it. And that's the kind of thing that I just love, you know? And that's, you know, lukewarm on the movie as I may be, spoiler alert. That is something that I'm just going to hold on to. Okay. So eventually they get the barrels, they get the trailer, and then Big Storm hits another town. Everybody's trying... Hobby is revealed to be not necessarily a bad guy, but certainly working for one. Okay. And Scott, the MIT guy played by David Corin sweat, is revealed to be something of a bad guy. Okay. And then Big Storm, Big ending. That's that. Have I left out or glossed over anything I shouldn't have? I'm going to talk about the annoying soundtrack, but other than that, I think the sound design on this is very good and you actually get to look into multiple times, I think, into the inside of a tornado. But other than that, yeah. I think you pretty much nailed it. The effects on this, the visual effects, the sound effects are quite good. The first movie from '96, Twister, gave rise to an industry, a theater industry term, Twister League, which is when the movie in the next theater over is so loud, you can hear what's going on in the, you know, in the theater next door. And I had not thought about that term for rather a while until about three-quarters of the way through this movie and said, "Oh, yeah." Because it is loud and it is impressively done. You hear everything well. And the visuals are really good. The soundtrack is almost entirely what is called country music these days. Everyone from the big showstopper over the credit songs or into Lambert and then there's Jelly Roll and a bunch of other names I didn't recognize. But it's very kind of twangy stuff that National puts up by the metric ton. Daisy Edgar-Jones, this is pretty much I think the first thing I've seen her in. I skipped where the crowd I had sang and I have not seen normal people yet. But she's fine. You know, she's really only got one, maybe one and a half things to play. Smart and traumatized. Okay. And so Glen Powell, however, this is going to be another stepping stone in his tendency to being a star. Tom Cruise times, you know. Tom Cruise I think is the easiest and probably most accurate comparison. But he's also got a little more of the effortless charm. Okay. The quality I've described before on the show. I don't know, Katie, if I've mentioned this to you or if you've heard it. But Powell has that quality that Chris Pine has in spades and Cruise may have invented. The guy who you really, really want to punch in the face but you're rooting for him the whole time. But you really want to punch him in the face. I can see that, yeah. And you know, I think he's going to, the sky's the limit. Part of the pun for a weather related movie. But yeah, he's a hoot as usual. The rest of the supporting cast is kind of fun and interesting in a, wow, I wouldn't have necessarily expected him or her to be in a picture like this. But then again, I suppose Philip Seymour Hoffman was in Twister. So yeah, Katie O'Brien. That's true. But like Katie O'Brien, who was the bodybuilder in Love Lies Bleeding, is in this. Oh, okay. Which is not the kind of leap you'd expect someone to make necessarily. Sasha Lane, who's done American honey and a few other things, is in this. So it's, the cast is kind of interesting. Isaac Lee Chung made Minari a couple of years ago and grew up in Arkansas. So he knows from that kind of plains terrible weather. And does, Chung does all he can to kind of focus things on the characters. But it's, I mean, it's moderately successful, I guess, in that. But this is not something I'm going to remember a whole lot. Other than you're going to want to aluminum. You know, even. Next month. Gotcha. It's. Okay. But that's about it. Katie. So I'm glad that you understood what the salesperson said when he said you're going to need an aluminum, because I actually turned to my friend when they did that whole build up and I could not understand what he said. Oh, no. And I felt like there were a few parts of the film, which were like that. Like it was a lot of good here. Clearly what people were saying. And then there was some side characters that said something and I'm like, okay, I have no idea what that was. So that's okay. So I'm glad. Thank you for letting me know that you're going to need aluminum. I did not know that. One of the things about the film, though, in the beginning, very clear. I even wrote down. It's like these three people are going to die. And I was right. But one that something that I thought about later is that the auction. That Kate made. I'm going to disagree with. You and saying that it was an F one and then it actually was an F five. I think it was an F one and Kate's concoction turned it into an F five. And one of the things that when hobby then goes into the military, I was thinking it's like, you know, I think that would be some sort of like thing that the military would want that you can have like make these. An accelerant. Yeah, because it was very like when hobby kept things like you guys need to get out of it. And then Kate was realizing and that was something I liked about Kate. She kind of had this like tornado whisper ability to her. It's like, you know, there was just the sixth sense that she had, which I like that. You know, there's no rhyme or reason. I mean, yes, she studied in all of this, but she also had this grained knowledge of how the storm is going to go. Why? No clue. I thought there was going to be a big reveal about one of her parents. So she was not kind of a, okay. So basically, if anyone has seen the movie Twister and loves the movie Twister, there's one aspect of the film that is this. There's only one thing. It's an animate. And that's about it. Other than the fact that in Twister, you've got Carrie Elway and his group of, you know, modern storm chasers with their black SUVs and all that stuff and they're supposed to be the bad guys. And you've got the ragtag bunch of, you know, good guys who are trying to figure out how to get these storms stopped or not stopped so they can do early detention detection and all that stuff with Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton. So if you flip that, then you've got Twisters. You've got Hobby and his crew who have the modern day equipment and who you think are doing this to, you know, help figure out the storms and all that stuff. And white trucks this time. Yeah. And then white trucks instead of black. And then you have Glenn Powell and his dipshit group of Wranglers. But like a tornado, it will fool you. You think a tornado is one thing and then it turns out to be another. So that is one thing that I go in. I was not, you know, as always, I don't read or see anything. But when I see Glenn Powell and his crew, all I think is like, you guys are idiots. They have, they even say it's like a hillbilly YouTube channel. I see them with their fans that are like following them and all that stuff, which I also thought was very interesting that they follow them to a certain spot. I would think they would be following them all the way chasing the tornadoes, but apparently they don't, which actually good for you guys at least you aren't possibly dying because you're following these guys doing this. And then you find out that Glenn Powell has your allergy degree. They're not actually dipshits. They actually are not completely. Yeah, not completely. But they're actually doing some kind of things for each one of the counts against head. And it's like, okay, well done, Twisters. Thank you for, you know, taking my, taking my judging-ish and making me feel horrible. I like that. Thank you. That's a nice little twist. But I don't know. There was just something lacking with the whole thing. Stuff just being forced. The whole romance thing. A lot of coincidences. Yeah. And this whole romance thing, it's like, you know, I don't know. They were doing that animosity thing, which believed me. I'm a big fan of in the early eighties, which it's like, I really don't like you. I really don't like you, but we probably will make out later. That kind of. The cheers scene of Sam and Diane. I hate you more. Yes. And, you know, with Temple of Doom. I mean, that's everything that, you know, the early eighties is taught. It's just like, well, if these two people like each other, they're definitely going to sleep with each other. But that didn't happen in this spoiler. I actually was kind of rooting for the hobby character. That's something would happen there because I felt like there was. A little rekindling of something. I mean, they had. Friends that passed. It's been a, it's been a while. And I thought maybe something was going to happen between Kate and Hobby. I think hobby would have liked that. I think hobby would have liked that too. And I kind of. Would have liked that myself. The main thing I question of this is that. I mean, I don't know how many of these people are going to be nominated for Oscars in the future, considering of the amount of people who got nominated, you know, and one Oscars in the original Twister. I think that Katie O'Brien has a chance. I don't know. There's always. That's but I did like the. I did like the feel. I saw this in Dolby. The feel of the Twisters hitting the ground, the feeling them hitting everything. I mean, you need to see this. This is what going to the theaters about, especially with. That just feeling it. I had. Major anger coming out of me during the rodeo scene because while. I don't know. There's just a lot of stuff when it happens in Oklahoma, when it's like, Oh my gosh, we don't. We don't have a place a shelter that we can go. It's Oklahoma. Like you got, I feel like. One of the main things in Oklahoma is tornadoes. So I don't understand why the majority of the places where we are don't have shelters where these people can go. I know it's supposed to move the movie along and I know it's supposed to, you know, put all of that. Feelings and emotions and oh my gosh, how is this going to happen? And there were a number of people that died in this one way more than the original Twister. One of the scenes though, when people died is this woman who kept saying it's not a tornado. Nine out of 10 times when that siren goes, it's not a tornado. It's a false alarm. It's not a tornado. And why are the, why is there no electricity in our room? Like we're going to write a horrible Yelp review. And at that point, all I could wish were for them to die. Boiler. Katie got a wish. I got a wish. I got my wish kids. So you know what there is? There is justice in the world. But then there were some other people that died and there are also some places where people hid that were somewhat convenient because I don't feel like that actually is what would have happened with a pool and a giant chunk out of the pool being gone and you can see pipes. I don't understand why that was like that, but okay. I mean, it saved a lot of lives. But I will say that Glenn Powell, I did feel gave a lot more range of emotions in this than I have seen him do in maybe any of the films that he was in. He definitely seemed like he cared about Kate. He definitely, you know, he wants to try and figure this stuff out to help the people that are doing that. He's not really, he's definitely making, I mean, it's not like he's getting rich off this that I can do unless he's getting some numbers from the top of YouTube and TikTok. So there could be that, but yeah. The, I wish they would have spent a little bit more time on his kind of crew. So I felt more time for this. 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It was then again is even more annoying. Well. For all the charm. He is able to express. That. Needly annoying thing is also a part of this character. So. It is. It is a friend of mine pointed out that at the end of the film, what he would have done would have immediately put him in jail. And especially with the destruction of property aspect. Well, there's that and just with any airline security and. I think national security with airlines and stuff like that. Yeah, it's like if this is how it's going to end. My friend was like, you know, I was just annoyed by that. Because it's like, well, even if anything happens between you two, I mean, he's going to jail. There's no doubt that's going to happen. I'm like, that is. Very true. But. I don't know. I really wish. There would have been. I would have actually liked to have got. Would have liked to have known the Wranglers a little bit more. I do like the fact that the movie switched. My mind and, you know, did with it. Like I said, did with it. What a tornado does. You just can't judge it. You don't know what it's going to. What's going to happen. I mean, I have been. In a nine story building where you see. The spiral coming down and it's thinking, I'm thinking, Oh, shit. This is not good. I need to get down to the shelter. And then I see the spiral going back up. And it's like, okay, I guess I don't. And that is the way tornadoes work. Just don't. Can't judge them. Don't know what's going to happen. And. That's a little bit with this film. I think character is going to be one way. And then they totally go and. Turn around and act another way, which I give the film credit for that. Yeah. I kind of wish I would have known the Wranglers a little bit more, but maybe that's just a little bit nostalgia for the original Twister. And stuff. I definitely. Feel like this film didn't do. The nostalgia aspect of the original Twister. Like I said, only one factor in it, which is an animate object. And, but yeah, if you're going to see it, see it in Dolby. I know it's honestly, it's made way more than I thought it would have done, but good for it. Maybe there will be a Twister's cubed. I don't know. During ice cube. There you go. There you go. It's a mixed bag. I just didn't. It didn't leave me. I don't know. The word I think I focused on was lukewarm. Yeah. I mean, I'm not. Which is basically how I felt about the first one. Okay. It's the first one was fine. I liked it better than the other big movie of 96 that summer 96. That was Independence Day. But even then neither one is anything I particularly want to revisit. So this was fine. I'm not going to remember it too much beyond you're going to want aluminum. Okay. Beyond, you know, a month from now, this will have, you know, just blown away from my memory. So I'm pretty safe in skipping this one. Yeah. Yeah. I think you are. But wait. I got bag. You got to get swag though. Yeah. I got a bottle opener. That's like a twist cap because, you know, it's like, if you feel it. Chase it. Wisters. Yeah. So get it since it's got a twist opener. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's so clever. Other people, there's, there were certain people that got like shirts and hats. That's like has a symbol that that the belt buckle that Glen Powell is wearing and stuff like that. And I guess. Glen Powell rescued a dog when he was filming this and it is a freaking cute dog. Like I have seen stuff where they're taking it all to different screenings or different premieres. Damn. That dog needs to be in movies. I actually thought the dog was going to be in the movie because seriously, that dog knows the camera. It is so cute. And I was looking forward to that, but that was not in the film. Sorry, spoiler, but yeah, for knows. I mean, they see, they both seem to enjoy it. And I guess he got to keep the front of the truck that he has in his living room and he's using it as a coffee table now. So that's a choice. Yeah, and I mean, that his truck. They do some things with that where I think people, that's the thing that I don't understand because when I was watching it, I was like, okay, if they're going to make some money, I can see people paying thousands of dollars. Being in the backseat, when that is going on, and just being able to be alive, knowing that you're going to be alive after that and our tornado like actually goes over you because you feel everything in there. I think that would be a money maker with the truck that they have because I mean, that is a steel reinforced. Got it plowed down so it doesn't move off the ground. That, that was something, and I was a little like, oh my gosh, and just again, it just worries me because these NATO Wranglers, all they want to do is chase tornadoes and I just, people are stupid and I hope people don't see that and like, you know what, I'm just going to be just like Glen Powell and do that. It's like, please don't, you're going to die. But yeah, I will give it that it did have a great truck. So again, there you go. GMC American made or whatever it would. Whatever it was. All right. But wait, there's more where I have a an additional film on which to speak as what it's what I do. It's all I have in my life. Oh, I saw Widow Klico directed by Thomas Napper screenplay by Aaron Dignam from a story by Christopher Manger based on the book, the Widow Klico by T. Lard J. Matsayo stars, Haley Bennett, Leo Souter, Ben Miles, Natasha O'Keefe, Tom Sturridge, Sam Riley, Cara Seymour, and others. There are those others again. I was going to say. This is the story of Barbara Nicole Ponceardine Klico, who married Francois Klico, who owned vineyards in France circa 1810. Give or take during during the reign of Napoleon. It cuts back and forth across time. Francois dies rather close to the beginning of the film. It is not explained exactly how that happened. He was a young man. He's got he and Barbara Nicole have a daughter who's about six Clementine. But he's gone and it becomes a fight between Barbara Nicole and a couple of people who support her and her father-in-law and the other various people. The other various creditors in the Champagne region of France, where they are based, she's trying to develop a new variety, vintage of Champagne and fighting against all these things around her and there's a merchant who helps to try and under the Napoleonic Code, there's an embargo and she can't export or sell her stuff easily. Outside the country, but they try and get around it and it doesn't work. Eventually, not to get too far into it, eventually, the 1811 Comet Vintage, as it's known, becomes quite popular. And now Vuev Klico is a well-known worldwide brand of Champagne. This is biopic and one of the criteria I apply to any biopic is, is this person interesting enough that putting forth all this effort is worthwhile to make this picture. And the story that's told here, maybe it's just because I'm not a drinker and I've never had Vuev Klico, but this doesn't really meet that bar. No, not not for me. I mean, it's done well enough. One of the producers on it is Joe Wright, who made the Keira Knightley, pride and prejudice and atonement I believe. And also happens, I don't think this any kind of coincidence happens to be Haley Bennett's partner. And it feels a bit like a Joe Wright picture, but it's just not, it just kind of sits there. It's unspecial, I guess is the word. It's not, again, not terribly memorable, not anything I'm going to want to go back to Bennett is good. She's been good in a bunch of unusual things. But this just, honestly, on some level, this seems like costume biopic number 12 a gotcha. Just assembly line product. Kind of yeah, eventually we do find out how Francois died. But even that's not terribly satisfying. And the ending is portrayed as this triumph. But it's not the ending eventually she's brought up on charges of violating the polyonic code and using her status as a widow to get around it. And it's just, I don't know, unearned. You know, it looks great that the music is pretty good. The performances are all all right, but just the story being told is not compelling or interesting or anything I really feel the need to revisit ever. It's just, it's fine. It's not even, even just goes as far as to say that it's fine. It's probably an overstatement. Oh, that's disappointing. Yeah. Widow Klico in theaters now did better than I think was expected on the box office this week, but not ultimately anything that's going to be terribly memorable for anybody involved. Okay. Katie, you haven't seen it right. I have not. I do like Haley Bennett. And I got to say, I love Joe right, like, atonement is one of my all time favorite films. I don't know if he had anything to do with swallow. But I love that. I don't think so. I love I love Hannah and the soloist. And I don't know. There's a lot of stuff that he's done that I just have to love. But atonement is probably one of my top 20 films of all time. So, wow. Okay. Yeah, I love that long shot they do with James McAvoy walking into. Yeah. He just, I just think he's so talented. So, I will probably check it out between because of both of them. And I also didn't know that they were a couple. So that's nice to know. He is listed as an executive producer on swallow for what it's worth. But yeah, they are, they are, they just had a kid like last year, two years ago. Also, in this, there are occasional times she looks confusingly like Jennifer Lawrence, but that's kind of probably my issue more than anything. Yeah. And Ellery, what do you have for us? Well, I happen to check out the Blu-ray release of the Fall Guy coming out this Tuesday on. It's coming out on Blu-ray. It's coming out on DVD and it's coming out on 4K. All right. And the blue, the Blu-ray and the 4K include both the extended cut and the original cut. Oh, there's an extended cut. There is an extended cut and it is a little bit broader. Some of the sillier jokes that they had are left in there. And there's a pretty impressive chase scene where, or an extended version of the chase scene where he's chasing down the drug dealer after going to the party. Okay. That they cut out of the main, the theatrical version, which is a shame. I think honestly, the extended cut is definitely the way to go. It's the original version is fun. Oh, yeah. Definitely. But this definitely benefits from having more. And that's the best way to put it. The extended cut has more. It is still as entertaining and engaging. Ryan Gosling really does does a great job in this film. And that comes through very clearly with with the extended cut, just seeing the other jokes that he has in the during the fight scene with the girlfriend of Tom writers. There's an extended conversation between the two of them that just gets progressively sillier. And it's it's thoroughly, thoroughly fun. The bonus feature side of the disc includes a gag reel includes alternate takes of various line readings. But the real show stopper is the stunt breakdowns. Nice, which are hosted by these by David Leach and the stunt coordinator. And they dissect, you know, okay, here's what we're going to do. Here's how we're going to do it. Here's why we're doing it. You know, it really does a great job of going in and explaining the process. And a fun thing is a lot of the shots of the behind the scene footage blends incredibly well with the actual footage from the film. Just yeah, okay, they got it right on screen as to what they were doing. Yeah, that was one of the things I know I commented on when I reviewed it back in May was the showing the scenes aspect of it. Yeah, yeah. There's an audio commentary on the extended cut with director David Leach and producer Kelly McCormick. And one of the fun things that I learned while watching the behind the scenes footage is that the two of them are actually a couple. And a lot of what inspired Gosling and Blunt's performances is watching those two on set. So, yeah, it's it. It's amazing the amount of inspiration they took from their own lives and put into this film, like the whole thing with the dog that only takes the commands in French. Well, that's based off of an experience that Ryan Gosling had, where there was a dog that he had that only that used to be an attack dog and took its commands in French. It, you know, Patton Oswalt once said that he doesn't, doesn't want to see how the things he loves gets made. He just wants the things that he loves. This is a great argument against that. This is a fun, the behind the scenes footage and material is a lot of fun as much fun as the movie itself. If you are a fan of the Fall Guy, I would highly recommend checking this out. Just a great disc. Nice to see Universal, you know, supporting the film, supporting home, supporting physical media in general with a package like this. The extended cut is given its own Blu-ray. So it's not sharing disk disk space, the transfer on new film obviously is good. But when you get better, it better be your right. But when you get into bit rate and playback, this having it on its own disk really helps. And it's just a phenomenally for good time. Very cool. I thought this is one of those things that like what you just said that Fall Guy to me is just fun. And I don't, I think a lot of critics just took it way too seriously or they didn't get the jokes that, you know, the cast and crew were in on the jokes and that to me is upsetting. But yeah, I just had a really good time and it's just fun. And you don't get to have that. I mean, you don't get to have that amount of it at, I don't know, at the theaters anymore. I love the fact that what you're talking about with the behind the scenes. It sounds like that there's a little bit more that they give her and they behind the scenes, maybe some dialogue didn't have that much on screen. That makes me happy. I really do like her as an actress. I follow her on Instagram. I think she's an amazing mother and everything she does outside of the entertainment business so I really like seeing her and I mean she's just been constantly working. So I like, I love that I got to see her in the Fall Guy. I don't know. I'm also I liked the fact that, you know, the relationship that they're emulating on screen is between the director and his wife because I know it seems like there were a number of people who didn't understand and were really harsh on Emily Blunt's daughter. And I didn't get that because my thing was like, Ryan Gosling was hurt. He then disregarded and rejected her after a huge amount of time. So what is she supposed to do? Yeah. It's like, I'm sorry she's not supposed to wait around for like a year and a half while he gets better, even though she would have. If he had actually told her it's like, Hey, I need your help. He didn't do that. So, I don't know. I thought this film was great. I thought it was fun. I love the stunts. And yeah, this makes me want to go by the physical copy even more. So thank you. All right. Yeah, absolutely. I really, I'm not the biggest fan of romance stories, but I bought into and really liked the romantic story between Cole and Jody and learning that that's emulating an actual real life couples heartwarming habits. You know, it's not only is it fun. It's heartwarming. What can be better than that? Yeah. So listeners, did you see Twisters or did you see Widow Klico or did you see the Blu Ray of the Fall Guy? Please let us know what you thought. Mail at Neon Movie Bunker dot com. And thank you, Katie for joining us. Yes. Please come back anytime. You know, just break in the house in the middle of Wednesday afternoon. Yeah. You know, I'll always come back and talk Flicks with you guys. That is a done. So thank you so much. Before you go, I got one, one other quick thought. Maybe we don't do this this week, but I'm going to throw it out to you. I thought of it last week and I've kind of been playing with it in the back of my head. It's been a little bit since then, but it'd be good to get your input on this too. Top five love stories in movies in movies that were released were the first digit in the years of two, which is a very ungainly way of saying the 21st century without getting into the old 2000 was actually the last year, the 20th century. I know what I'm getting at, but think about it. And next time we have you on, we'll, we'll run down those lists. Okay. I mean, I'm just checking to see the one, because I think, well, yes, so you guys already know one of them, because I mentioned it on the show. There you go. I mean, spoiler that's a town man. Fair enough. Wait a minute, you mean it's not twister away that came in 96. Doesn't count. In the meantime, DVDs and blue rays. Those are things that are happening right the heck soon. And for case. Well, yes, those two. Yeah. Got something for us. Well, obviously the fall guy. Oh, yes, that. Yes, absolutely. That is certainly a fine worthy choice. Mm hmm. Really a great disc splendid. I'm quite happy to hear that. There are a couple of other options, however. For example, coming on DVD and blue ray this week is Ezra. Oh, yes. With Bobby Cannavali and Robert De Niro and Vera Farmiga and Brent and William A. Fitzgerald and friends. The story of a father with an autistic son indulges in some light kidnapping and cross country shenanigans to try and really launch his stand up comedy career. So I'd earlier this year. It wasn't too bad. Okay, then. Do you have a catalog title? I do. The three Stooges collection. Yes, that is massive. It is. And. Stooges fans will be thrilled to get that. Just a huge set with. All sorts of content. As the shrimp years has the curly years. If you were a Stooges fan and you've got the hundred and fifty to spend. This is not a bad way to do it. All right, then. I too have a catalog title. From our friends, the criterion collection. Comes. Risky business. Oh, yes. I talked earlier in the show about Tom Cruise and the. Wanna punch him in the face, even while you're rooting for him thing. In his early career, is there a better role that typifies that? Not really. No. Interesting, rather unexpected choice for criterion, but not a bad choice. Not at all. Not at all. Anything for us to avoid this week? Yeah. Coming out this week on Blu Ray is the strangers chapter one. Oh, yes, which I saw and was hoping to enjoy. But it's just kind of a re a rehash of the original film and not a particularly inspired one. Right then. You heard it here first, folks. The strangers chapter one. Not that great. Yeah, that's fair assessment. I don't really have anything that I see here that is. Avoid worthy. There are a couple of other criteria and things for criteria and adjacent things that are coming for all my concubine. Mm hmm. And. And sell the. Yeah. In vendors documentary. In 3D too, I believe. Quite possibly. I. Just closed the window, so I'm not sure. Yep, 3D. Sweet. Nice to see 3D Blu Ray is still hanging in there. Well, considering you are one of the 12 people. Yeah. Who has the. All the technological capability to watch them. Mm hmm. I do want to point out one title. I have no information on this series other than the title, but it's a hell of a title. Yes. Reborn is a vending machine. I now launder the dungeon season one is coming out. And that's that's quite it's quite an evocative title. It is. It is. I just wanted just wanted to highlight that title. All right, then. Do you have a question for me? I do. Oh, good. Otherwise, this just would have been three, four minutes of dead air. Yeah, then that would be no good for anybody. Twisters is a revival of a. Long dormant. IP. Yes. What are some other long dormant IPs that you think could would benefit from a revisit. Mm hmm. Has anybody ever made another movie about Batman? Yeah, there've been a few. Okay, so not that one. Not that. The first thing that comes to mind is a movie that was promised slash threatened. In the closing credits of the original film. Yeah. In. Buckaroo bonsai. Mm hmm. I would. I would pay to see the buckaroo bonsai versus the world crime league. Yeah. Why not right? I'm not entirely sure how much of the cast slash crew slash creative team is still functional, but. Enough. There you go. Buckaroo in his later days would be kind of a fun thing to see. Next is something I believe we're getting. At some point soon, but I don't know that we're getting it in the right way. No, I. Already got it. And it did not make a splash at all. And what was it. Couple of years ago. 2022, if IMDB is to be believed. There was a max original animated series that was released. Entitled. Gremlins secrets of the Mogwai. Ah, yes. Do you, did you watch any of it a little bit and it's okay. And I'm looking in the credits here. I see the name Steven Spielberg as executive producer. I see say chuden as executive producer. I see the most important name as a consulting producer, which I think just means they send him a check. But. Joe Dante's getting up there in years. Why not. Just give him a whole boatload of money to make Gremlins three. Really? I mean, who wouldn't want that? I, I'd be in favor of it. I would be deeply, deeply in favor of it. Because it's, it's Joe Dante and it's Gremlins. What's not to love. And the last one. This one might be just for me. Okay. And I'm perfectly okay with that. But all the appropriate creatives, I believe are still alive and working. I have no idea what it would look like. I have no idea what the storyline would be. But if I could get in. The middle part of the 2020s. A full length movie based on the John Lovitz animated series, the critic. That would be fun. I don't know if anybody else on earth would go to see it, but I know I would go to see it 50 billion times. Okay. Okay. Does that do you think the math on that works out for the, for whoever at Fox or whoever would be in charge of it? I did might. It might. And since it is late and I am tired and not feeling particularly creative, I'm going to flip over this one back at you because, okay. Let's see here. First one that comes to mind is the monster squad. Nice. I think seeing the monster squad grown up and having to deal with another prophecy would be kind of fun. Let's see. Can I offer a complicating slash clarifying question? Yeah. During the heyday of kind of slasher horror, kind of, you know, between that period between Halloween and scream. Was there any project that you saw that you liked and maybe thought there could be something else here, but never, it never got it for whatever reason, be it. You know, it didn't make the impact they wanted at either the box office or culturally or anything like that. Honestly, no. Most of the ones that would. It's quite honestly sequels for slashers are cheap and easy. Yeah. So most of the slashers that got a seat that I would have wanted to see a sequel to got a sequel. There was an even there was even a nine seven six evil to. Yep. Yep. But that brings me to another kind of obvious one. A revisit of a nightmare in Elm Street would be real nice. Fair enough. I mean, how long has it been since that remake? 14 years. Oh, wow. I don't know that I realized it had been it was 2010. Yeah, it was 2010. Wow. And round things out with. It could be done. All three of the of the leads are still alive and working. But a revisit of the romance in the stone series. Yeah. That could be a lot of fun. Michael Douglas. Kathleen Turner, Danny DeVito. Mm hmm. You probably bring in some Glen Powell type to play their kid or something. Right. It could be a lot of fun. Okay. I think you're on the right track there. Hey, Lori. Hey, John. Let's go to the movies. Okay, Doki. What are we going to go see? First and most of the things to see right now continues to be inside out too. Because it continues to be inside out too. Next on my list to things to see right the heck now. Uh, kinds of kindness is still kicking around theaters here and there. And if you haven't gotten to it, definitely, definitely check it out. And last and most of things. Mm hmm. Thelma keeps plugging away at stuff. Yeah, and that's a good movie. Yeah, that's fun. If you're going to stay home and pop something at your home video player of choice, be it DVD, Blu-ray streaming 4K or VHS, if you're a weirdo. Uh, the first thing I'd recommend you is quite obviously the fall guy. Oh, that, that, yes, that makes sense. I would follow that up with Back to Black, which is a capable biopic about the troubles that Amy Winehouse went through and caused. Yeah. And round things out with. I'm reminded, which is possibly in poor taste, considering how Miss Winehouse died. Mm hmm. Uh, but the, the Simpsons line, alcohol, the cause of and solution to all life's problems. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely definitely an element of that to it, isn't there? But I would also recommend that you check out Boy Kills World. Ah, yes. There's a lot of fun and just a goofy over the top action film. All right. Some great voice work in it. I wanted to take the opportunity to mention our email address one more time, mail at neonmoviebunker.com. 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