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KMTT - Berachot 06

Duration:
41m
Broadcast on:
06 Feb 2006
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mp3

KMTT - Berachot, Shiur #06, by Rav Yair Kahn
'KMTT', if you need Sihon, Tei Sei Tora, and this is Ezra Beck, in Ishivat Harat Sihon and Kushad Sihon, we are beginning today, our sixth week of KMTT. Today is Monday, Rett Shrat, and today's year we'll be giving, as usual on Monday, but I have our Viya Yokan, the sheer inner heart behind. We have, last week, about 200 distance a day, which is really very, very, very good. However, I have to admit that at my weekly basketball game, Thursday night, I was talking to a colleague who is running a rival to our podcast, and he told me he has 500 subscribers. I spend all Shabbat being eaten by jealousy. So if you want to help me out, please spread the word. I think we have what to offer. If you are still with us, I think you are enjoying it. If you have friends, other commuters that you know about, people you see jogging, people in shul, anyone you know, tell them about KMTT, and spread the word. And now, for Viya Yokan, after Vakan's year, I will be back for the ha'lachayomet. In our previous year in, we discussed Bracha Rishona, the Bracha that one makes before eating. Today's year, we're going to focus on Bracha Akrona, the Bracha that one makes after eating, for instance, after eating the Zonos, what makes in Alamekia, after eating bread, or su uda, what makes it there, kasama zon. We're going to discuss a little bit the idea of a Bracha Akrona, and our context is going to be Gomara on 37A, Bracha dafla mizainimaralif, that discusses the case of Hakoses Esajita if one chews on wheat in an unprocessed form. The Mishna, the Brica, says his fellows. Vatanya, Hakoses Esajita, Mavaraka, Allaya, Bauripiadama. If one chews on wheat, the Bracha Rishona is Bauripiadama. Takhna, Afa, Ubishlaif, one grounded, made flour out of it, and then baked it, and after baking it, he cooked it. Then it depends, bismansha prussot kaya moat, if the pieces of bread, after being cooked, are still in existence sufficiently. Then he would still make a Bracha, make a moat of it, but if the soap, the Bracha, give a Bracha out, and afterwards he makes Gimmel Bracha out, which means Bracha tama's own. If however, after baking it, one cooked it, and the Prussot are no longer kaya moat, the pieces of bread have totally disintegrated and fallen apart. In a Brussot kaya moat, the Trida, Bracha, a la Bauripiadama, may be the name of the note. Then the Bracha shifts from a Birkhos hamote, two burning names on note. With the soap, the Bracha shifts from a Birkhos hamazon, to Bracha a chardme ingshalosh, which is what we normally call an alamekhia of the ala kalkala. So the Bracha begins, with a case of Kosus et taqita, which wasn't ground up, which wasn't baked, but rather was simply eaten in its world form. The Bracha says that in such a situation, one makes a Bauripiadama, one is eating it not as bread or not, as Dalgamborn is eating it simply as wheat, in its fruit form. And therefore, just like when one eats a tomato, one would make a Bauripiadama, so too when one eats a wheat. In that form, one makes a Bauripiadama. Only when the wheat is processed, and ground, and then cooked or baked, would what make either a motsilakamina aris, if it's actually bread, and we discussed already in one of the previous shurim, how one defines bread, or alternatively, if it doesn't become bread, one would make a Bauripiadama name is on note. That's what the Bracha says. However, wheat in its unprocessed form, either in the case of when one eats a law, or even if one would take wheat, and one would bake it, or roast it, coyote, which is called coyote in the Gamara, then one would make a Bauripiadama, because he's eating wheat as a wheat, as the fruit, rather than eating it as a grain which has been processed, and made into some kind of a cereal, or a cake, or a cookie or bread. However, this Bracha discussed only the Bracha Rishona. The Bracha Rishona, according to the writer, is Bauripiadama. What, however, would be the Bracha Rishona. Regarding this issue, there's a big, big, more focus among the Rishona. Tostro says his follows. Umiu v'la' Akhara v'ye'ishla-sapayk mama-varkin. Afterwards, we have a suffix. We have a question. What should the Bracha be? In the back in Allah (M) called Kalah. In Mr. Sayyim, Allah (M) should be basically make the Brakh (M) however conclude the Brakh (M) instead of saying "Allah (M) we should conclude it" with "Allah (M) (M) because the Brakh of Allah (M) normally comes after Musa (M) after eating cake, after eating cookies, after eating cereal, then when makes an Allah (M) (M) however over here, we're not eating the shita as a grain, but rather we're eating it as a fruit. And therefore, why should we make an Allah (M) (M) therefore, it also suggests, just like we have one of the Brakh (M) if one eats one of the fruit, if one of the zai (M) (M) if one eats a pamma granite or if one eats grapes or figs or dates, one makes an Allah (M) (M) so too over here, one should make an Allah (M) that's what it also suggests. However, it also says, we never found this Brakh (M) we never found this Brakh (M) how could I simply invent a new Brakh form? We never found this Brakh (M) (M) therefore, it also suggests that perhaps one should not make a Brakh (M) (M) now this is the standard Brakh (M) that one makes, after eating something that doesn't demand a Brakh (M) (M) In fact, toast those quotes, rabbina tama (M) that debate the issue by himself (M) (M) rabbina tama (M) that one should make a Brakh (M) that one should make a Brakh (M) (M) that one should make a Brakh (M) (M) because this Brakh, we never find this form of Brakh (M) (M) that one should make a Brakh (M) that one should make a Brakh (M) (M) that the Ramamu would appear that the Brakh (M) (M) so basically in conclusion we have three different opinions. First of all, we have the opinion of (M) (M) while at least initially thought that one should make a Brakh (M) (M) however, the form Allah (M) is not suitable and therefore he invented a new form (M) (M) in contrast, Ravan agreed that it should be a Brakh (M) (M) but felt that Allah (M) was the proper Brakh (M) for this particular, for eating Krita (M) (M) even in this pure form as a fruit (M) (M) while the Ramam holds that it should be a Brakh (M) (M) one should simply make the standard Brakh (M) (M) and it doesn't demand a Brakh (M) (M) whatsoever. This question already arose (M) (M) and you shall be apparently. You shall be (M) (M) (M) if somebody ate (M) (M) ate ground wheat, but it wasn't processed, it wasn't needed into dough, it wasn't baked, it wasn't cooked. (M) he ate (M) (M) it was pure form. 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