Evan & Tiki
03-14-25 Hour 3: Football beefs & Vince Carter was almost a Knick
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So I'm going to guess who is Marcus Strowman? Do you have a guess? I think Rodon is the other option and then I guess Rodon hasn't pitched in two weeks. So I'm going to say it's Rodon. According to Aaron Boone, Carlos Rodon is the Yankees opening day starter because he told us that was the case. No, he said it was either or though, but he said, yeah, he didn't say he didn't lean one way or the other, damn it, thought I had that one and Max Fried will pitch game too. Very good. Well, I think the thing with Fried is obviously he's earned the right, I guess, if you will, to start opening day, but the days didn't line up. We heard that last year with Boone and Strowman. So it makes sense. So they're going to go back to back lefties to start the year. So Carlos Rodon gets the, gets the nod. The opening day started Yankee stadium against the brew crew. He better not jack it up. You know what, he could jack it up as long as the Yankees respond by scoring nine of their own. That's true. Go win the game nine eight. So Boone is now countered, Mendi. Did he do that on purpose? Did he say I'm Mendi? You want to announce one starter? I'm going to go out and announce game one end game. They probably talk to each other and are like, Hey, let's do this today. Let's get a news dump. The opening day, opening day started deadline four p.m. today. So you had to hit the deadline. No, it's not. Yes, it is. You didn't see that new thing from Manford. No, season started. There is an opening day. That line is March 14th at four p.m. He's going to get it out. There's no way that's real. Okay. Believe me. If it's real, I got it taken out because I'm the baseball gig. I should know this. You must have missed that email. You weren't C seat on that email. I know Rob personally, he sent me an email. I'm looking. I'm just going to confirm that you were believable until that last statement. Yes. But he was business a long time. I know Robbie personally. He was going to be believable until I said, Hey, take if there's a real deadline at where no, if there's not a real deadline, look, no, and as soon as I say that, look, you would have backed off in the whole thing. I would have folded on the question immediately as a congratulations, Carlos Verdon goes from blowing kisses two years ago in Anaheim to having a solid year last year, certainly. I mean, one out made all the starts to now getting the, the nod of opening day, opening day at Yankee Stadium. Let's go to Ozzy and Woodridge. How are you? What's up, Rob is Lugie's man, Fran, quick, quick, quick, very nice. That's a good one. Off the cut. Thank you. Yeah, man. If Sean didn't tweet about that, Clay Holmes opening day news, then we know he is truly unplugged and not listening to anything anywhere. Well, has he? I haven't, I haven't, I haven't checked his Twitter account. Has he been tweeting on vacation? He did text you this morning, didn't he? He did. He broke his own role because he claimed he was blocking me. But then he texted me this morning about fantasy baseball. So yeah, no, Sean has not tweeted in a full day. Okay. In fact, he tweeted on his plane ride in, so he was on the plane and he wrote in flight TV is broken, kind of like the Giants quarterback situation, attempting to be uneven like and throw my phone in the ocean for a few days. Wheels up. See you next week. Meanwhile, he hasn't thrown his phone over because he's texting me today about fantasy and yesterday he responded to my pet Schurmer text message. Right. Yeah. But of all the news, if he didn't tweet about Holmes opening day starter for the Mets because he's been giving us crap ever since he signed with the Mets, then you know, he's cut off a little bit. So good for him. I'll give him a little bit of credit. Sure. Two nuggets for you, Evan, you do with the information what you wish. Side manning troupe, Kaitlyn Clark, 76, 61 in Papa shot, yeah, you know, maybe you could send it up. There's a challenge. There's a challenge to be had now. Well, I think it's a reminder that even if you're good at basketball, you can lose to someone who's not good at basketball on Papa shot because I kick everyone's ass and Papa shot and I'm very un-athletic. So I would challenge Eli, Eli, if you got any balls, you'll take me on in Papa shot from Barkley center at that brand new key club and I'll whip that ass all over the key club. There you go. And if you beat him, you can say you beat a, well, no, you didn't make the whole same. So no, you can't say that but Evan, this is more important. I don't know if you address the situation, maybe over the weekend regarding jet and his natural curiosity about that mysterious number. Yeah. Tell him, just tell him it represents and refers to the pure joy and satisfaction. And it's amazing because it represents the year that is two favorite teams won the World Championship. Oh, I was waiting for something. That's actually taken. I was waiting for something dirty because you could actually take that. I could. You know what I mean? Yeah, two days ago, I mentioned this briefly that I noticed my son who likes to keep notes for himself had a note that he should Google what six nine means when you put the numbers together. And so I as a father was like, man, I guess I have to have the chat with him. By the way, here are the latest lines on Clay Holmes winning the Saya. The books are different, but it's either 150 to one or 125 to one or 120 to one. So his numbers have come down a bit based on how he's pitched in spring training. I don't think starting opening day is really impacts that at all, but he's look good in spring training. And look, we saw Seth Lugo have a great year last year and the year before that. So we have seen a reputation now of starting pitchers or relievers converting the starters and then having some pretty good success. Edgar is in Manhattan. What's up, Edgar? Hey, what's going on? What's up? What's up? Good, dude, what's up, my man, no, I was just listening to the conversation and about Clay Holmes and the Yankees can't be mad at the next national league, Cy Young, no other team can either because no other no other team saw what the Mets saw. So you got to give kudos to the Mets pitching staff. They're like, like they call the Mets pitching lab, right? Or whatever it is. Well, it is. I'll say, it is what I'll say. I think you're about the met pitching lab. All right. They're doing a lot of high praise and it deserves the high praise. They got to go do it again now. All right. Clay Holmes having a good spring training and Clay Holmes starting opening day is not a victory quite yet. He now has to go out and make 25 or 30 starts and be effective. So I give the lab a ton of credit for what they accomplished last year, but this year is kind of like a heat check for the pitching lab also last year with Sevi in particular. It was it was managing the injury right as his years and as a Yankee, he was just always hurt. Right. The biggest problem with Sevi was staying on the field. And Sevi had an interview yesterday in which he complimented the met doctors and how they're on another level. Yankee doctors were good, but the met doctors were on another level right and it's because when Sevi was healthy with the Yankees, he was unbelievable right, but he just couldn't stay healthy. And so whether that was, I mean, I don't know if that's the pitching lab and mechanics and things of that nature. Maybe it is, but it's just he was healthy. Yeah. So Sevi did this interview talking about the trainers that the Mets have. And I think some Yankee fans took it as a slide because Sevi said, Hey, the Yankee trainers were good. The met trainers were on another level. I don't think that was a knock at the Yankees. I think it was more a compliment of the trainers he worked with last year. Right. And he specifically talked about the food, about the sleeping habits, like a lot of the little things you forget about and how it impacted him. Yeah. Things I've been telling you for the last year now. You haven't telling me that, but you know what, he was talking about sleep. I was really interested because you've told me about sleep and I appreciate it. But it's the most important thing I do every day. And I agree with you, but you know what you haven't told me? What's that? Okay. How do you do it? Well, how? I don't think what I get home. Well, Sevi had a whole careful plan with the sleep. Was it? Yeah. Well, your problem, just for you, for solving you for a second, not soft, but discuss for a minute. You think too much. Like you never stop thinking. That's an understatement. That's right. You know what I mean? And after I have dinner with the wife and the kids, I'd like to watch mindless television. Yeah. Just stupid nonsense because I don't want to think. And so when I go to bed, my mind is just kind of like, all right, let's just shut down. You're right. Where is you? Right. What did Tiki say to me? I mean, you know, I can make a bit out of this. I can. I like to go to a former president's boyhood home. Right. There's this kid in the minors. I saw him like three years ago. Actually, I know. I think he was in college at Auburn or something like that. I mean, look, we're here. Where's he now? Oh, wait. Yeah. He's going to be in the majors in three years. Oh, I got to write that down. Like your mind doesn't stop. No, you're right. That's my biggest problem. I'm thinking about like, oh, I think it was a great comparison and you're right. You're right. I got to somehow change that. I was listening to Sevilla thinking is he going to offer some more advice besides that. And basically it was so simple, but it's so true. What do you do? What do you think? Because I didn't hear it. Sleep and complete darkness. And we don't do that. I do. Well, you're smart. My wife is home. She has to have a TV on, but I'll bury my head and sometimes I'll put headphones in. But when she's away, as soon as I get in bed, TV goes off, phones on the other side of the room, I want nothing bothering me. And that's probably going to cause you to get better sleep when your wife's not there for that reason. 100%. And so it's a great idea because you don't even think about it like even a hallway light or a bathroom light or your cell phone or your tablets on. Like I fall asleep a lot of times to YouTube. That's a light. Or the shades being up. Something as simple as that. I mean, the shades being up, oh, you try to sleep in. All of a sudden the sun's coming out. So that was a good piece of advice. I was like, all right. It's heavy. It's helping me. Dudley sleep in your bed. Sometimes. Yes. Well, that's a bad one too. That doesn't affect me. My dog sleep in the bed. Mine does. Why? Does she wake you up? I'm sorry. She's not as very offensive. I apologize. She doesn't, but she's heavy. And so she wants to like sit right on you. And so she's heavy and she gets hot and so midway in the middle of the night, if she sleeps in the bed. Yeah. Most of the time she sleeps in her cage, but if she's in the bed, I'll just wake up sweating. It's because she's on top of me. Don't. CJ, get the hell off of me. The truth is when Aaron Rogers went into the darkness two years ago and we were all fascinated by it. I know I was like going to the bathroom and this that he probably got the best freaking sleep. No, you're right. You're going to man. Right. Because there was nothing that could possibly be a distraction to wake you up. Right. And that really is the number one thing. Right. Unless you're not used to it in, because it was he in nature, Aaron Rogers was it? Was that in nature? Was that in? I think it was in a room in a room. Yeah. But there was nothing. Right. No light, no sound like complete silence. Yeah. That's the beauty of it. I bet you you sleep 13 hours if you do that because you don't know when you don't know when to wake up. You have no idea when to wake up. There's no hint for you to wake up because even if you go into a dark room and the blinds are up, you could probably see through it a little bit as you're sleeping that the lights coming out. So I think you need that utter complete darkness. Oh, by the way, if you guys aren't aware, and this is more good news for giant fans, Demarcus Lawrence left the Dallas Cowboys. He signed with the Seattle Seahawks. Him and Micah Parsons have gone completely at it on social media. Yeah. I thought they were boys. And here's how it started. Very simple thing. And to me, Demarcus Lawrence dropped the nuke. Okay. Like we'll get to what they ended up saying to each other. But listen to this first little thing that Lawrence did to me. This set the whole thing off. Here's Demarcus Lawrence being interviewed after signing with Seattle and talking about leaving the Dallas Cowboys and signing with the Seattle Seahawks, you know, Dallas is my home. I made my home there, you know, my family lives there. You know, I'm forever going to be there, but, you know, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there. So. Yeah. We're here, Demarcus Lawrence. Welcome to the Seahawks. Thanks for joining us. Wow. That's, that's harsh. Bro. Well, that's, that's a, that's a fan take. Yes. That's what every fan, non-Cowboy fan says about the Cowboys. You're never winning a Super Bowl here. That, that's why I saw that and I'm like, Oh my God, he started the whole damn thing. Right. He just throws out there. Yeah. I'm never going to win there with those losers. And he lives in Dallas and his family's going to stay in Dallas. Yeah. And he's also, he was there for a long time. And he's throwing shade like that. That's it. And he walks out the door. That's a big shade. I mean, he's good luck going to restaurants. I mean, imagine if Saquon Barkley said that upon signing with the Eagles, like, Hey, love New York. It'll always be my home. Love everybody. But I knew I wasn't winning a Super Bowl there. Like bro, you, you said he was dead to us. He would have been dead to us 10 times over to said that. Right. Right. So what was the reaction from the fan base? So obviously the fan base, I think the cowboy fan base is split. Some of them are saying he's right and obviously some are very bothered, but Michael Parsons responded to this clip by saying this is what rejection and envy looks like. This is some clown bleep and then he's got a clown emoji. The Marcus Lawrence then responds on social media to Mike, Michael Parsons response by saying, calling, he said, the Marcus is brutal, man, in a good way, I guess, calling me a clown won't change the fact that I told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning, I wouldn't have left. Oh, wow. That's why. Oh my God. And my guy obviously responded. No, he didn't. He did not. So I checked recently to see, is there an update on this? Like, how does this end? And I have not received seen a response. That was the last response was him saying rejection and envy looks like this is some clown bleep. And then the Marcus response. And that's how it ended. Now, I don't know. Do you think Mike has got a response? He has to. That's Mike Parsons is emo, right? Is to be a social media troll, like that's, that's what he does. That's what he does. He has to do it. He has to respond. You can't let it die conspiracy theory. Go ahead. It's a work. Parsons has a podcast and he will talk about on the podcast or he'll have Lawrence on the podcast. You think there's the whole thing is why bro, you sign with the Seahawks and Sam Donald, what super bowl are you winning there? It's not like you signed with the Chiefs or the Ravens or Saquon with the Eagles. That's a fair point. Seattle. We all know Dallas sucks. So we appreciate you dunking on him, but you signed with Seattle. Yeah, but I think that the player probably looks at that situation differently than we do as fans. I mean, here's the one thing about Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott. And I think you'd agree with this. I think that most cowboy fans and you as an independent football observer would say they ain't going to anything with that team. No, I think that you can look at Seattle with still a young head coach with an ownership group and a general manager that's won before and Sam Donald who you still not fully sure you know what he is and say they could win not going to bet on it, but they could. So I don't think it's nuts for Demarcus Lawrence to think that way and say I could win here, but I know I can't win there. Yeah, I think he's probably also saying about Dallas, our division is going to kick our butt, meaning if he stayed in the NFC East for the next couple of years. Yeah. Right. Philly is the best team in the division. He could be look at your Washington is going to continually get better in the division. I don't rule out though, Tommy, because Tommy, I give him where I trust Tommy is sniffing out of some things of work or not, because he did it like immediately with the Pat Mahomes senior thing with John Rocker, like I was so pumped, like he was the first one is like proud to work. It's work. It's work. So I'm going to give you a level of you may be right. I think we'll know you're right if he goes on the podcast as soon as we hear the Marcus Lawrence is potting with Michael Parsons, then we're going to know. Yeah. It's also the fact that Micah has not responded yet and he responds immediately to when things like this happen. Yeah. And the fact that he hasn't has been over a day now. There's no. Yeah. But the other possibility is that it started off as a shoot and they're going to make it a work, which means this is all real. Now Micah's gone behind the scenes to say, Hey, guys, to Marcus, we've been boys. Right. Chill out. Let's chill out. And oh, by the way, let's take advantage of this and make it something. But it is real. It started real. Let me give you another conspiracy theory and I'll tie back to New York. We talked about the Michael Bridge's minutes thing. Yeah. Maybe other people in the locker room feel the same way and he's the messenger. Maybe there are people on the Cowboys that realize they're not winning because Jerry Jones just runs things. He's ran this place, you know, not into the ground, but we're not going to Super Bowl. Let's feed it to the guy leaving. He'll say it. And then Parsons can act like the hero, but this is really the message and maybe Dallas, Jerry Jones, he loses power. Just a thought because it would have been more effective. I mean, that's a conspiracy though, but it would have worked if he was specific about what the issue in Dallas was. He just said, I know I can't win in Dallas, but I think most cowboy fans realize what the issue is. But what was Jerry Jones or is it that Prescott or is it the fact they can't win with that quarterback? You tell me you could argue both. I think it's probably a little bit of both that just can't win the big game in the postseason. He's great in the regular seasons. Almost won an MVP a couple of years ago, but he's constantly hurt and something always gets in their way, whether it's self-inflicted or they just run up against better teams. It's been the same way for a decade now. That's why that answer is very split. It could be. Of course it could be Jerry. It could also be Dak. I don't know what the market's meant unless he's further asked about it. And if he does do that podcast with Parsons, he ain't going to ask him that. What is he going to say? So why do you think we saw right? Why do you think we can't win, by the way, speaking of podcasts, Kendrick Perkins was critical of Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart doing a podcast. They responded to that. We'll get to that coming up in a few minutes. Plus your calls 888-808-1019 coming up in the next 10 minutes or so. James Dolan did an interview with Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart. I got two interesting clips that will play for you, including Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart's response to the criticism that they should not be potting during the course of an NBA season. If you've missed any of the show, you could rewind it on the Odyssey app. I told three numbers 888-808-1019, let's go to Butch, he's calling from the Fine State of New Jersey. What's up, Butch? Yes, sir. First time, Kaula was longtime listeners, I think you guys are great. I just want to reach out to all these giant fans out there. I think that we did pretty good in the free agency. We tackled some, a couple of positions in the secondary that were pretty good signings. We got a good backup tackle, Hudson from Cleveland. We got that backup defensive end, who had six excellence. I think we did pretty good as far as these signings. The GM did not sit on his hands. He was pretty aggressive. I like his attitude. My question is now, everybody's question now, who's going to play quarterback? Now my thinking is, I would have liked to see a bridge quarterback. Somebody young. I'd like to see Justin Fields, but the just beat us to that. And I like Wilson. I just don't want to see an older quarterback where he's going to eat up whatever money we have left over for free agency. And I'm not so convinced on these two quarterbacks coming out this year, I would like, we got the first five picks now, we got five picks in the first 105 picks. I think we should build our roster with those five guys. Those five picks. Right. But what are you doing a quarterback though? Okay. Here we go. I think the kid from Syracuse is good. Okay. Now the kid from Ohio State is not bad either. Now 2026. There's some good young quarterbacks coming out. Now look, are we going to be contenders this year? Let's face the alley. I'm a great fan. I don't think we are. So you know what? We could bank on a franchise quarterback next year, just use the bridge quarterback for this year. Now the problem you're running into is can this administration survive? Yeah. Not winning games and also not putting a young future quarterback on the roster this year. I think as long as they stay healthy, they'll win some games this year. Like we saw this even in 2023 two seasons ago when like they weren't good, but they were in a lot of games. And we talked about it often leading into last before last season, how they easily could have won nine games last year or two years ago. They lost these one score games just because they weren't good enough. Like they were, they were banged up and, and Daniel Jones wasn't healthy. And Tommy DeVito was kind of a playing hero, whatever was going on. They just weren't good enough. But if they build, if they keep building the depth like they are, then I think they can survive some of these injuries a little bit better. The one thing he did say, which is a concern is. Where do you get those shoots? Easy. 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Also, it's something you're going to feel down the road, because if you sign Rodgers to a $2-year, $90 million deal, which I've heard boomer float out there, and I think that sounds right, aren't you going to have to throw in these void years, which is going to spread out the cap pit, which means you're going to pay the Rodgers Piper years from now? At some point, yes, and that's not ideal, especially if you survive it, if you seem surviving healthy, even if they don't survive it, you'll ladle it on to the next regime. So for a bridge, for a bridge, which kind of doesn't make sense, I think you were right about Justin Fields. If Justin Fields would have been a giant, we would have been, I don't think ecstatic about it, but if he'd won some games and he was just a cheap bridge, great. Because if you're going to get a bridge, he better be cheap. Headline, headline, headline, Tiki Barber, jealous of the New York Jets. I don't know if you guys heard that, but that's what I heard. I have my issues with Justin Fields, but a guy like that. Yeah. But the problem is there's not any other guys like that. There weren't a lot of these young lottery tickets, if you will. Right. Who else is there? Not many. Let's go to Giancarlo and Queens. What's up, Giancarlo? Giancarlo. What up? Hey, guys. How's it going? Thanks for taking my call. Pleasure, man. What's up? What's up, man? Evan, really quick. I think you might have said something or forgot something that could be L-worthy. Go ahead. A couple of minutes ago, you were talking about the Mets converting infielders into pitchers, and you kind of forgot a big one. I Davis. Oh, no, that was a different team. I think he got converted into like an independent ball. All right. Go ahead. Jacob de Grum. Oh, that doesn't count. He was a minor leader. You don't count guys when they do it from the minors. But yes, Jake was drafted out of Stetson as a shortstop and got converted into a starting pitcher. And he was a hell of a starting pitcher. And by the way, a pretty damn good hitter. Right. Aren't all of those, like, college stars? Yeah. Aren't they two-way guys? Yeah. Even the Mets have a big prospect, McLean, who was a two-way player who just recently they said, "You know what? Just start games." So I didn't forget it. It's just I don't think about it. Not regard. I think about a guy who's established as a major leader than converting, which we've seen a lot over the last few years. Luke, he mentioned it passingly, but Tyler Nequin was a guy that Mets acquired at the deadline in 2022. You guys may remember him. He just signed as a relief pitcher now. All right. So we do see guys try to make that conversion. And some are able to pull it off. In fact, the Mets have one in their in spring training right now, a guy named Anthony Ghost. He was a big outfield prospect for a while with the Blue Jays, with Cleveland, and he did make the major. So it's not like low-level minors like Jake, and he didn't work out, didn't become the guy people thought and then got converted. We have quarterback news here breaking here from Brian Costello. Jet news. Oh, wait a second. Now, the Jets already have Jordan. I got to digest this before you tell me because I'm not prepared for quarterback news, not for the Jets. Jordan Travis is here, but we know he's got some issues with the trainers. We've already acquired Justin Fields. I'm going to bring in another quarterback like a veteran backup for Fields, or maybe someone else to compete with him. How about? And Teran Taylor's already there. How about Teran Taylor requests a trade order to be released or Tyrod Taylor got traded? I'm going to go with because you got Taylor. You got Fields. You got Travis. You started. I'm going to go with a traded Teran Taylor back to the New York Times. I just get it. The Jets have not traded. All right. Let's hear it. Oh, okay. This is Justin Fields related. Justin Fields has picked his number that he's going to wear for the Jets. Oh, come on. We're going to go crazy about this. Is it eight? It is not eight. Think W.F.A.N. W.F.A.N. is 66. Nope. Think about one of our colleagues. One of our. Oh, boomer size. Justin Fields, we're number seven. Number seven for the Jets. Boomer, a size. That's the breaking news. So will he be. So what I would ask is, is Justin Fields going to be the best jet to wear number seven? Now you're trying to salvage the breaking glass. I'll say this. Boomer would agree. I certainly hope he's better than Boomer. Not all his fault, by the way. I mean, he was screwed up by that team. He was on. But I'm trying to think of the other guys that were number seven. Did you know? Geno were number seven. Tom Tupel were number seven. I'm Tupel the punter. Kenny O'Brien were number seven. He passed this number seven around like it's nothing. Jimmy Boyl wore number seven. Are you kidding me? I thought this was Boomer's number. Basically everybody's warning. It was Boomer's number. You know who wore it last year? Who? Hassan Rudd? Come on. Did he? Yes. Boy. But now Tampa Bay Buccaneers here. This is like your number. They get out the kickers. But at least they just give it to defensive players and special teamers. That's right. Not quarterbacks. Even if it is a quarterback or a kicker kind of number. Yes. So it is what it is. You think many Jeff fans are going to buy Justin Fields jerseys? Does that jersey go off the show? It depends on if he ends up starting. I think if he starts I think yes. Okay. Because if he ends up starting probably right out of the gate. Not if he starts like week 12. Right. But if he starts week one and he just, I don't know, he's miraculous, rushes for 110 yards and throws for two touchdowns, albeit short ones, maybe like disguised to go. Oh, yeah. Those jerseys are flying. Yeah. They fixed them. I can't believe. I can't believe Tommy broke the glass in you and I are like, get treated Tyro Taylor. I know. And then we find Justin Fields is wearing number seven. So disappointed. I have a kind of a, not going to kill him for it, but I kind of Michael's calling from Queens. What's up, Michael? Hey, good afternoon guys. First time calling. Thanks. Take me. Appreciate you. Well, I have a comment on thinking the dad sleeping habits of the wife, right? One thing my wife loved to do was set the alarm an hour early before she had to even be up. Michael, you have no idea how much I hate when Tracy does that. Yeah. No idea. And she sets. She doesn't do. She sets three alarms, Michael. Oh, and one is like six forty five and then seven oh two and then seven seventeen. Like she's got to get up. She's got to get up at seven oh two or something. But like, why are you saying that earlier? I'll tell you what, man. You know, my wife's a huge guy fan. She loved you. She's a currency to take a hold of with her siblings and maybe we should get these girls together. Right. Exactly. Don't set alarms unnecessary alarms. I don't get that strategy. Like almost warning you. Oh, you're going to be getting up in 10 minutes. Yep. But then you can't even enjoy the final 10 minutes. That's right. That's exactly right. Yeah. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. I mean, I mean, our dog gets up anyways because we have a puppy, right? Millie who's a dot sound. And so she gets up at like seven o'clock every day anyways. So I never need an alarm because I hear the dog. I get that real quick yesterday. I think he got posted yesterday, but Jaylen Brunson and Josh are to do that podcast. I think they do a good job. The roommates pod and they had James dole and on as a guest. So there were two things I listened to it would tell if it was current or was it a long time ago? It's definitely current because one of the things they addressed was Kendrick Perkins's recent criticism. And I think his criticism was a few weeks ago. So when I say recent, right, they didn't record this a year ago, but that's what I'm asking that they recorded it before the season. No, no, definitely in season, but Kendrick Perkins. I do want to give you some background has been a Nick supporter. These almost become like the celebrity, former player, Nick supporter in the media because most people look the bass to next. That's just the reality. So Kendrick's been coming from a good place. Call him a Nick Jockstrap here you go. But while the nicks were struggling, he criticized Brunson and Hart for doing a podcast in the middle of the season. Basically, hey, your focus should be on basketball. Your focus should be on winning. Your focus shouldn't be on recording a podcast. Here is Jalen Brunson with James Nolan sitting by his side, his boss responding to the criticism not just from Kendrick, but from others who say they should not be potting in the middle of an NBA season. We keep the main thing. The main thing. I mean, thanks for your opinion and then we move forward. I'm going to say this. They're much worse things you could be doing and sitting here and talking with you guys about stuff. I just, I just find it funny how like we're supposed to just like go to the gym, come home, just sit on the couch and just like wait for the next day. So like I said before, you can't listen to the negatives and then listen to the positives. If you got to, you got to be able to either listen to both or block out both. I'm not worried. That's all we need to hear, right? James, don't say I ain't worried. I got to defend Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart as long as you're not putting your podcast ahead of the basketball that you're playing, they're not or causing things you say to be a distraction, which could happen as Draymond Green or even Michael Parsons, then I don't think it's a big deal. And I totally respect that. Like these guys play basketball. You can do other things and I have to just sit there and go to the gym and shut up. Dude, when I was playing football, I worked at Fox News and get up at three in the morning and go to Fox News. Right. So it's possible and I had the best years of my career doing that. Would you have potted if there were podcasts during your active time? Would you have started a podcast, whether it's about football or something else? Um, I doubt it. I don't think so. Which of your teammates would I like listening to podcasts? Right. I don't, I don't know if I'd love doing one. Which of your teammates would a host of the podcast? Shockey. Mm. I can see some pod. Shockey was very like, like he did a lot, but he kept it all of a sudden, like nobody knew. Right. So it wouldn't have been Shockey. I don't know who it would have been because someone would have been defensive guys straight in, probably, and he'd been great at it because he's entertaining as hell. I'm trying to, there's no, I don't think any of the offensive guys I've played with. Like Ike was very quiet. A money was very quiet. I mean, I was the loudest one, but I want to think I would have enjoyed doing that. You think Tom Colffin would have done a podcast? I don't know. Definitely not. I just can't. Maybe actually some of my line, you know who would have and he was only here for a couple of years? Glenn Parker. Okay. Glenn Parker definitely would have done a podcast because that dude could talk about anything. He could take the other side of an argument, even if he had no belief in that side of the argument. Really? He's that kind of guy. The other thing that was interesting from the podcast was they asked Dolan, did he ever come close to trading for a superstar? And Dolan gave an answer. We'll play it for you in which he really struggles to remember who the player is. And then you will eventually hear who the player is and then the odd thing he said about said player. So ladies and gentlemen, here's James Dolan answering the question. Did you guys ever come close to trading for a star years ago? Yeah, a long time ago, a long time ago, I got to even remember it was ended up playing for the Nets. Oh. All right, oh, shoot. Great score. It wasn't Grant Hill, it was a guy out of Toronto. Vince Carter. Vince Carter, right? Vince Carter is a great example, right? We were going to do the trade, this is all. And the medical team came back and told us that he had a 90% severed Achilles tendon. That it would never hold up, right, and that if once it ruptured, right, he'd never be the same player. And for that reason, it didn't happen when he did the trade, right? Wow. And then Vince Carter went on to have five, seven years. I kept waiting for his Achilles tendon to break it, never broke. He was hanging on for dear life, putting in 30, 40, and I was like, yeah, we certainly dodged a bullet there, didn't we? He's waiting for me to get me started. Oh, wow, they got more out of Dublin than I think I've ever heard him. Yeah, that's a great story. They were rumors about the Knicks being interested in Vince because I've made fun of Tommy in the past, like, hey, anytime you guys want to get a star, we get them before you and forget the rant. I used to bring Vince Carter up all the time. So obviously it was out there that the Knicks were interested. But how about that? The doctors couldn't have been more wrong because V, she goes out there probably, right? Were they? He just didn't, it just never tore. He played 15 more years. Wow. Like it wasn't like he had a few more years. Wow. Yeah, he had the five or six with the Nets, the five and a half with the Nets. But then he ended up playing until he was 43 years old. I mean, my bones, like, yeah, they told me his Achilles was going to blow. Right, and his prime years were with the Nets. So not only did he have his best years with the Nets, he went on to play for another decade. Wow. I wonder. So let's say the Knicks made the trade. What year was that? It was 2005 where he got traded the early part of the 04, 05 season. He got traded by Toronto to New Jersey. So this is the beginning of the Nick like disaster because remember, they made the playoffs briefly in 04 and Steph was on the team. So you do have Steph on more. If you make the trade and now you've got Steph, you got Vince Carter, Isaiah is there. My assumption is like you'd be better, but I still think it would have ended up being a dysfunctional mess. Who's the big? Eddie Curry. Eddie Curry. I think they made the Eddie Curry trade. I think they made the Eddie Curry trade. Curry came in around like 05, I think. See, we ought to go timeline on this because then they maybe don't make the Eddie Curry trade. I'm trying to remember timeline wise, but like I think things would have been better for the Knicks. Don't get me wrong because VC is a tremendous player, but I don't think it would have led to anything. No, but it just it's you don't trade for Vince Carter because you've got that medical yet you bring in like Jerome James, Eddie Curry, Steve Francis, Penny Hardaway, all guys that had either injury history or were older. So but, but Vince Carter, well that the guy could jump out of the gymnasium. We can't have it probably on one leg. He could jump out of the gym. So does this because I know that I still get pissed off about things 20, 30 years ago. Does this piss you off? Yes. Really? Yeah, because I think bare minimum Vince Carter's jerseys hanging at the garden. I mean, he is. I mean, the Nets were tired as dumb. No, no, we're different, bro. Come on. I don't want to get into this, but we are different. Okay. I think you're hanging his number. Are you hanging out with Vince? Yes, I am, by the way. Correct. Thank you, Tique. He would have played because he played for 15 more years, but he only played with the Nets for five and a half more years. I don't know how long you would have played for the Knicks. Well, it's just assuming he stays with the Knicks, but that's what Tommy's alluding. That's what I'm alluding to. Like if he plays for a decade and they become, he becomes, I don't know, iconic, of course they would, right? No, because think about what Nick fans say about Carmelo Anthony. But I would retire Melo's number. I understand. I'm not talking about you. You've been respectful of Carmelo, but if Vince came to your team and you weren't really good good, but he and I gave you the highlight reel stuff. I don't know because you guys, not to criticize y'all too much, but they're so stuck in the 90s. I think he makes them better and they become good. Especially if they still trade for Melo, and you have Vince and Melo. No, now you're going down a road to where I don't know if all that stuff happens. Good night. You never know. But I don't think they're good. Or Melo wanted to be in New York, didn't he? First of all, it was six and a half years later. Like there's a different generation of that. He played for 15 years, Vince Carter. I know, but making the assumption that you make the trade for Vince, you're good. Everything's fine. There's no controversies that pop up, considering Isaiah Thomas won the franchise into the ground that he's still there, that he wants to stay. And oh, by the way, you're still getting Melo and stat is like an alternate history that's too weird. You have to just stick with that period of time between 05 and 09 and say, okay, they're better. And he puts up great numbers and he does statistically what he did in Jersey with my team. I think you guys maybe get to the first round and lose. And then what? You're putting his number up for that? I think it just changes. Yes. And I think you just changes. You're not putting Melo's number up. They are going to. Are they? Yes. 100%. They are definitely retiring Carmelo's entity, especially because of the relationship. Is Bernard's number up there? I thought Bernard's might have been, maybe not, but Bernard should be up there as well. But Melo's is definitely, you're talking about a guy that represents the best player of a lot of people's generations. I think Melo's number will be up there. But one player coming to a franchise could change the entire perception. You don't know who's going to sign here. Just having that stability, have a great player like Vince Carter, I think would have changed everything. Yeah. Well, that would have been a trade. It wouldn't have been a free agency. It wasn't that a knock for the Knicks for a long time. No. Nobody wanted to come there. Yeah. They would get these, I hate saying the word retread, but they would get a lot of guys that would just on the back end of their once great careers or they would make horrible moves like a Jerome James and Vince Carter to me, you're talking about one of the best players in the NBA, they would have had him for like bare minimum five years would have changed a lot of things. I don't think it would have. I honestly don't. Like I think it would have been. Yeah. They would have better, but it wouldn't have changed their fan. So what was that? I still have an opinion on that. The Nick fan would look at it differently than I think in that fan. Right. Well, I'm not looking at as an ed fan. I'm looking at as a basketball fan and trying to figure out like what would have been different if he was there. And like I said, I think they would have been a little bit better. Yeah. But that's like trying to figure out what Nick, what Vince Carter would have been if he would have went to Oklahoma City. Oh, it's tough. It's not easy. Right. Cause you're right. Cause it leads to the other moves that happens and doesn't happen. And you don't know, like does the Eddie Curry trade still go down? I got to look at the timestamp. I don't want that trade even one day. And nobody is sicker hearing this news than obviously Vince Carter cause you had an opportunity to be a Nick grade instead you're, you know, a net grade. Should I even respond to him? No, because I mean, let's be honest. I mean, he's just trolling. Have you, have you noticed that he always brings up the nets? I never bring that. No, but you know, I barely talk about him. You notice when my, when my guy Jimmy Dolan brought it up in the, he said this net's great and you have like six basketball guys in the room and nobody could think of the name because they're like nets. I think it's more that he was giving no hints. He was just like a nets, like, whoa, whoa, no, he said nets great player and everybody's like, they had one of those. Jason kid was pretty good. Not a great score though. He was more of a distributor. Did he start by saying score? Yes. Oh, okay. He said great score was on the nets and everybody's looking around going, carry kittles. Gary was good for a while. Kendall Gell. Come on. Let's go to Chris and Brooklyn. What's up, Chris? Hello, Chris. Yeah. Hello. Yeah. What's up? Hey, Amy. Yeah. So, Evan, I got a question. Yeah. I got a question. So the meth documentary just came out today with Juan Soto. Yes. How do you feel? How do you feel that your voice is on the documentary? Is it? My voice is on the dot. I haven't seen it yet. So I have no idea. Yo, if you watch it, your voice is on maybe 25, 50% of the documentary of the voice of the WFEM. What am I saying on the documentary? Oh. Yo, it says. Soto's not going to be a man, Soto's going to be a man. It's a whole controversy, but your voice from the radio is on documentary. I don't want it to know how you felt. Why I don't feel anything because I haven't seen the documentary, but thank you. I look forward to seeing it. I did admit when we found out about this documentary, I was excited to watch it. And I know that there are some med fans, forget Yankee fans for a second. They're obviously going to, you know what all over it, and that's fine. But for some med fans, it's like, hey, why are we doing a documentary? The guy hasn't played yet a game for the Mets. Yeah. And sometimes you need time to watch a documentary, but I'm interested. I'm interested to see how this went down and how they pursued him and got him. And I look forward to watching it. I think it's more interesting if you do it halfway through the season. They should have held this. What if he was getting booted? Did he feel? He's not going to get booted. He's going to be great. Because that's just who he is. He's great in spring training. Hold on one second. How long does he hit? Four. He's been unbelievable. Five. He's been unbelievable in spring training. Vince Carter, geez, you've got to get a V.C. Raskona, who works here, who's a good Nick fan texted me, and I feel good because I like to get the backing of this. He's like Vince Carter would not have changed anything for the Knicks. So thank you, Scones, for backing me up on that. And I love Vince because I don't want anyone to take that as a shot at him. I just think the franchise was like, think about what the Nets were. That's why I would play. Why would they have traded for him to get a superstar and thinking it would take them to the next level? It wouldn't have. And this is going to be disrespectful, but I'm just going to give you the facts. The New Jersey Nets went to back-to-back NBA Finals. That was Jason Kidd's team. Vince Carter came in and they were good and it was exciting and it revitalized them after losing Kenyon Martin. He didn't take them anywhere. Let's just be real about this and I appreciate Vince and I was at his retirement ceremony and I like Vince, but the idea he took them anywhere is a lie. That's not true. They were in back-to-back finals. They made the decision to let Kenyon Martin go and yes, they helped revitalize things by bringing Vince in. They never got past the second round. So now you're slandering Vince Carter. I'm not. I'm telling you the truth, Teeth. Okay. I love Vince Carter. I'm telling you the truth. So he did what the Nets had already done. In fact, they didn't go as far. The idea was coming to the Knicks and taking them to the finals where they were going to be a perennial playoff team every year. I just think you guys are wrong. Why? Why? Why? How could you, and one breath say, well, you can't say they would have gotten mellow, stat, would have still signed here. Is that six years later? It's just a generation later. Okay. All right. Fine. You have changed the franchise, but then you can say, well, you wouldn't have both could be true. How is what? It's just a matter of an opinion. It's not, Oh, it couldn't have happened. It could have easily have happened. It could have easily not have happened in my opinion. You use a lot of words there. All I'm saying is what happened with the Nets, like he didn't, to be fair, take them anywhere. Right. And again, I have a good appreciation for what he did in New Jersey. I do. I made it my business to be in that building when that number went to the rafters, but I got a call like it is, like I'm not going to act like, Oh my God, he took the Nets. They were in the finals and back to back years. Right. But now you're talking about, or we're talking about a hypothetical that was 20 years ago. No, I know. What's the point? I know. What was the first thing he said? Oh, the Met documentary. Oh, no, it was Tiki saying, Juan Soto won't get booed. Let me just tell you this. I hope he never gets poo. All right. Do you need to, you need Lugi to do issue a Sean Morash rule, which is you can't boo him. Now different because Sean said Yankees couldn't boo him so that he would be enticed to stay. Yeah. He's trying to 15 years. So you can, but Tiki, you're not going to if he, okay, if he said, wait, has he ever gotten booed as a whole, as a home player, I doubt anybody that he never got booed a Yankee stadium last year that never happened because he never gave the fans any opportunity to get booed in San Diego. I don't think so. I don't think they boo anybody. Yeah. I don't think the Dodgers, right? They're just happy because it's beautiful. In DC, he was a king, like, remember, they won the world series. He's a baby. So I don't think he's ever faced booze. But when you come to New York with a monster contract, let's not get this twisted here. If he got off to a bad start, he's going to get booed. Like this is not a controversial thing. And I hope he doesn't, hopefully you're right, Tiki gets off to a great start. And he doesn't face what Lindor faced or what Beltran faced or what Piazza faced. By the way, it's everybody, like literally I want everybody gets booed. Bring me a mat, a star player they acquired in their history. Who didn't get booed? I've come up with two, one, Gary Carter. That's because he had a home run on opening day and they were rough. But you get my point for the most part, when you come here with big expectations, there are going to be booze. But if you're right and he never, never struggles to start his met career, then maybe we get away with this. 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Hour 3: Evan and Tiki talk about the issues with Demarcus Lawrence and Micah Parsons, wondering if this is actually real. They also talk about James Dolan joining the Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart Roommates Podcast.