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Ep. 402: Shooting Pistols v. Shotguns v. Rifles

In today's episode, the guys discuss the differing ways you can learn to shoot various platforms of weapons.

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Duration:: 1h 3m
Broadcast on:: 15 Mar 2025
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And on American History hit, my expert guests tonight journey across the nation and through the years to uncover the stories that have made the United States. From first flight to first ladies. From stitching the star spangled banner to striking gold in California to shooting for the moon with Apollo. We've got you covered. Catch new episodes of American History hit. A podcast by History hit. Every Monday and Thursday, wherever you get your podcasts. And welcome to the town outdoors show. Hey, I'm Charlie. I'm JD. I'm Fred. You look at me like I was supposed to say something. How you doing? Halfway through that. I'm going in. I'm wondering why am I saying the end. You were going to go ahead. We're back. We're back. You know, you're wondering why we say half the things we say. Matter of fact. I wonder if it's more than half for you. I'm just saying. It's more than half. I think out loud. And I think a lot. And sometimes my brain gets full. I just have to just discuss it. I feel better after our talks. I know you get bored and walk away. My daddy used to do that. He'd be in the start. No, he'd go to sleep. So I'd walk in the house and I'd climb off the tractor or do something or come in and walk in the house and daddy be in the recliner. He was taking one of his midday naps. And normally if the truck was at the house, that's what he was doing taking a break. If not, he was off. I got to run a town and get some parts. I got to go see some. I got to go pay some bills. I got to go to bank. It was a good thing to not be on the tractor and leave me on the tractor. If there was one tractor running, Charlie was on it. If there was two tractors running, daddy hired Sammy to run the other one. I felt very privileged when me and daddy were in the same field farming together. That was cool. And I knew he had run out of options. And we were in a bind. But I thought that was, he'd be on a, he'd always get on a 44-40 the bigger tractor and I would get on to whatever the smaller version was. But daddy would, I would go in there and sit in the living room and I'd go, "Hey daddy." And I'd just start, it'd be work related to me. "Okay, well, one over there and I did this and I did this and I did that. Next thing I know, he had his hat, no gold-kissed hat most of the time pulled down over his eyes and he just does off." And I just, you know what, I'm gonna tell him anyway. And then he can't say I didn't tell him to get away. He didn't tell me boy and I'm not, he was asleep. So anyway, sometimes I say you glaze over a little bit when I'm telling you stuff. So this time tomorrow, I'm gonna be over in Jacksonville watching the TPC sawgrass players tournament. You don't get on the little par three with the island par three and what's that one? Yeah, I think they call it a drunk hill. Okay, I'll be at the tournament on Sunday. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Scotty called wanted to know how to make a hole in one. Yeah, I figured I'd go over there and tell him. Get closer. That usually works. Close your eyes, hit and pray. Unless I'm putting, I don't know what it is. Lately, I can't make a putt save my life. It happens. There's a putt. There's a putt's joke in there somewhere. I'm trying to get it. You leaving them short or? Just inches. Short. Or just going inches by. It's so frustrating. That's why I don't play golf anymore. I was watching the tournament last night. See, I got some Spanish guy. What's it? Villa or something or another? Not really. Villa or something. Okay, a Spanish dude. A Spanish guy. A Latin guy. Yeah, he's leading. But I've noticed that these pros, a lot of them, are putting with, not like you hold the club, but to put the other hand, the left hand, the lead hand. Switch handed basically. Yeah. Like you would cross handed. I don't know if that would work or not. I used to play baseball the guy that batted cross handed. And he never hit the ball very far, but he hit it just about every time. I mean, he was a great contact hitter that batted cross handed. I mean, when you watch these pros, especially when you go watch them live in person, if I'm going to hit the golf ball, it's happening. I mean, I've got to sit there and line up and put the ball and practice swinging off. It takes me minute or so just to visualize the swing and what I'm going to hit. These guys just walk up to it. Well, how do you do that? They just play it. You do a lot of that. They do a lot of it. Yeah. They just play in a totally different game than the average recreational player. That's what I'm saying. You know, when I play basketball, I have to really think about how the trajectory and all that. And then these NBA guys just jump up there and they just play like that. I don't even try. That's the same analogy as what you just said. Probably so. Except that I don't ever play basketball. I can't ring that garbage game with a piece of paper. I was telling that my wife of the day and her response was one of the last time you prepared for a hearing in court. I really haven't. Well, that's just lazy. That's not like, you know, skills, literally. Yeah, it probably is. But yeah, I mean, it's, you know, once you do whatever it is you do. This is subject matter expertise. When JD, when's the last time you practice shooting? Yeah. I mean, that's the, you know, we all have our wheelhouse and then we dabble in other people's. You dabble in golf. A dabble. It's a dabble. And it's a hobby and it's a passion for you, but it's not your profession. Those guys, it's their profession. And here's the other thing is there's a lot of people would love for that to be their profession. However, they're not that good. And so as hard as they try, they just can't quite put it together. These people are anomalies when it comes to people with skill settings. So they get so good, but they're people that try harder than they do and they're still not that good. It's like anything else. That's why professional athletes, professional shooters, professional attorneys, you know, you have some people that can just fly by the seat of their pants and they know case law and notion that they walk in and they can massage a jury into what they want or they can do a great job of negotiating or, you know, cops that know how to show up on the scene and resolve a situation with, you know, very if you were, in my case, a lot of words, but we get it done, you know, and then you walk away and somebody goes, man, I'm not here. Half an hour trying to do this and you walked in here, said three things and everything's cool. Well, that just some people have a gift for different things, you know, I can go out and shoot, you know, not, not pick up my shotgun for a couple or three months at a time, go out there and shoot sporting clays and shoot, you know, 85, 90 percent on the sporting clays course without touching my shotgun for five months, four months. The diff, but that, but also on the same note, if I went out there and actually did it every day, I probably wouldn't pick up more than one or two shots, you know, is it worth the effort? Is it worth the expense and the effort at that point? I mean, I, I don't do it for a living, I don't care that much, I'm not going to put in that kind of time. I can go out there any given day and shoot the same course and I also can get 25 or 30 percent. Yeah, I've seen you do that, yeah, and it's just, it's one of those things that I think at this point in time in my life, I've done it, I've done it enough that I know what the picture is supposed to look like in my head when I'm doing it and I go out there and it just, and I'm, I may get rusty with shooting things or whatever I may get. I had a, when I was, when they were about to put me to sleep Wednesday morning to do my, to do the surgery on my mouth on my, get the rest of that tooth out of there. Uh, doctor was asking me, say, you, you shoot a lot. I'm like, no, I don't, because really, I'm like, no, I, I don't shoot a lot. I don't, I don't have time to shoot, I don't have time to shoot. Yeah. I'm too busy making sure everybody else has got somewhere to shoot or got something to shoot with or whatever, but I understand how you can be good with a pistol if you're good with a shotgun. What I don't understand is how you can be good with a pistol and not as good with a shotgun. I'm good with a pistol and a rifle. I know you are. I know you are. I know you are. I know you are. I know you are. I know you are. Well, I know that pistol and rifle, because I, I can explain that easily. Very, very next time. I can, I can absolutely explain that to you because it's completely 180 degree different discipline, because of where your focal attention is and because of, because of what's going on with it. With a pistol or rifle, when you're trying to hit a static target, like you're trying to hit this water bottle at a hundred yards with a rifle, you want everything on that rifle perfectly still, when you're pulling the trigger, you don't want to disturb that side alignment, that side picture. You want everything perfectly still, perfectly in place and you want to pull the trigger with perfect precision to where you don't disturb that and your focal attention needs to be on the, either the front side, if you're shooting iron sights or it needs to be on the crosshairs, if you're shooting with a rifle, you need your, you're focused on the crosshairs, right? With a shotgun, you're absolutely focused on the target when you're shooting clays. You're focused on the target and nothing is ever still, the gun never stops moving. He can shoot moving targets with a pistol. I've seen him. Yeah. But his focal attention is still on the front side of the pistol, though, not the shot. It's like a shotgun. If I'm seeing my front side on a shotgun, I'm probably not killing the bird or breaking the target. Okay. Just back to the matter. I mean, it's just... I'm pondering. All right. How's it going? There's too much. There's too much follow through, sweeping and too much movement. 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At Recon, they do restoration from mold, fire and smoke damage, demolition, and repair services. Recon also performs full-service cleaning, trauma, and crime scene cleanup. If you have repair or cleaning needs, we recommend you call Recon Restoration at 755-0628 or on the web at recon-restoration.com. So when we left, we were talking about the difference between why I suck with a shotgun, but I can shoot other things, and then what the difference is between... And there's some days that you do better than others. There are days when...I think if I think about it less and I just roll into it, I'm doing better. I mean, there are days when I can shoot clays or birds even, and when it's like that. When I go back to shooting steel, I'll always tell people we shoot steel, we want to paint it white. We're seeing, we're hearing, where all these things are happening and so that it reaches our brains go back and go, "Okay, what I just did was right." And then, as I do in the future, my body goes back to that and you mentioned something on the break about that. Well, what you're talking about is the shooting steel is the positive instant recognition. So you got that...I lined the sights up perfectly, I broke the shot perfectly, I got that spot, I hit that spot on the steel that I was aiming at, and I got a ding, and I got a little black spot, and I got whatever else, and that happened. Your brain recorded all that. It was talking about shooting a bird, or your live targets are very different than clays. Clays are predictable. Once you see it fly a couple of times, and that's why we throw show pairs, we'll throw a show pair and let you look at the bird, look at the clay, and it's okay. So your brain's taking all of that stuff in. What happens with a lead on a bird, so on a live bird, and what allows you to make those shots, and everybody goes, "Wow, that was a great shot." What really going on when you see that bird leaving it a certain trajectory, you see that speed, whatever. Your brain is calculating all that as you bring the shotgun up, and you're replaying every time in your brain that you have seen that before, it's replaying that so that when you bring the gun up, and you get your gun up in front of the bird, and you establish your lead, and you know that, "Okay, I'm on there, I know I'm gonna kill this bird when I pull the trigger." Most of the time if you do it successfully, it's because you kept the gun moving. Where people fail with shooting moving targets is stopping the gun, because what happens, your brain gets, you get into that position and you go, "Okay, everything is exactly right in that target, and I know where I'm at, and I know that if I break this shot, I'm gonna kill that bird." And your brain will say, "Okay, stop time, stop the motion, and I stop the gun because everything is perfectly aligned, and I stop the gun because I have found that spot in my brain that says, "The geometry is correct, and you stop what you're doing to try to freeze time and pull the trigger." And then that bird is gone because you didn't continue the lead. The shot doesn't get there exactly as the target has moved. I can back that up. You take, I've got three boys, all of them learn how to shoot birds under my watch, taught them all, shotgun. On the days that I would go out and, you know, it would be dove hunting or duck or whatever it is, and they miss the bird almost every time, it's because they didn't continue following through. Which causes you to shoot behind them, right? Absolutely, you're gonna be shooting behind them. The bird, the target is not gonna be there. So what I tell people when I'm teaching people to shoot clays is even if you break the bird, and you're shooting clay targets, follow the pieces that you, when you have broken this bird and you got in to pick out the biggest piece that broke off and follow it all the way to the ground. Or shoot it, shoot a broken piece because with live birds, just because you do everything right and you hit it, you may not, you may cripple it. If you, you want to follow that bird, keep following that bird and stay on it. The same with clays, you just follow that, you know, follow the pieces, follow through and force yourself not to stop the gun. And that's the biggest mistake I see people make with, with shooting clays. You said something one time that made me think about that in a different way. You've got a new shotgun or an old shotgun or, in your case it's probably an old shotgun, and you said this thing is like a light saber. I just, I just swing it and, and birds fall, I just love shooting this thing, and I got thinking about a light saber and you never stop, you just, you swing in, in fictional characters. You swing it and you don't stop, you just, you follow through. And that kind of. And when you find a gun that fits you well, that, that, that the weight it, that is weighted correctly and everything is right with the world, that's my, that is my Browning Super Pose 20 gauge lightning, and that's, is, is that gun for whatever reason, it just, things fall out of the sky when I, when I move that thing around, and it's just, it is what it is. Same model for me, but. Yeah. Mine's just longer. Yeah. My stock's just longer. Yeah. The one I've got was a night, it's a 1950s chug, and apparently I would have been a giant back then, because that's the standard stock that came on that thing, and it's, I've got a 12 and a half inch pole, you know, which is, yeah, you know, like a lot of source wrecks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It reminds like 14 and a quarter. I'm, I'm, I'm a big dude. All right. 6, 3, 2, 80 right now, hopefully that's going to change soon. And I find that I shoot lighter, shorter shotguns better than I do my big, you know, 12 gauge. I would rather be shooting the, the 28 gauge. I love shooting that one on quail hunting. It's a shorter, it's a lighter, smaller shotgun, and for some reason I can move it easier. I don't feel like I'm muscling this big shotgun around. That's why, that's precisely why my semi auto that I hunt with. That's precisely why I shoot Benelli's and not Beretta's. Beretta's are a couple of pounds heavier than, than the Benelli's and the lighter weight guns. Because I don't stop it heavier guns will keep you from stopping the gun. I know guys that shoot better, they, they want for like their, their clay shooting, sporting, sporting clay guns, they want them big, long and heavy or skeet guns. They want them heavy because it keeps you from stopping the gun. It's going to force you. It's hard to stop it because it weighs so much more. Yeah. That lightning over and under I carry out in South Dakota. I mean, that thing weighs as much as a, a TV and a, yeah, the, yeah. The bigger, the heavier guns are harder to stop. So, so light guns for me because I've kind of broken that habit. And you also have to, you know, when you're shooting or doing anything, play in a sport for that matter. It doesn't matter. You have to be able to have that internal dialogue with yourself and you, you, why did I miss? And you have to be able to replay that sequence back in your head and go, well, I missed because I'd never got the gun mounted properly. I missed because my stance was wrong or my putting stance was wrong. I'm doing something wrong. I got to figure it out. Sometimes it takes longer than others when hitting the golf ball is the same concept. Same suit. If you shoot, you, you try to hit a golf ball off your back foot. Right. It's, it's, it's something you're doing, but you have to be able to do self diagnostics and go, okay, why am I not doing what, what's going wrong here? And there's times, there's been times when I miss and I'm like, I shouldn't be missing this. I shouldn't be missing this shot. I, I know what this shot is supposed to look like and it'll be some little something, you know, with, with me being a left handed shooter, a bird going from right to left is my most difficult shot and a straight 90 degree passing shot from right to left as a left handed shooter, because I tend to pull the gun off my face. The gun gets ahead of my eye, basically. So my, my mount is corrupted. My rear sight is corrupted. The mount, the relationship between the shotgun stock and your face is your rear sight on the shotgun. So what happens with the right to left shot is I tend to get the gun in front of me. The gun, the gun pulls off my face and usually you'll get that little kiss on there when you pull the trigger. You'll get that recall and you'll have the next day, you'll have that little sore spot there where you gave the gun somewhere to recall and it'll give you a little, hey, you know, you messed up there and it doesn't take long sometime to figure that out. But you have to be able to diagnose what you're doing wrong to correct it. And then you have to have that internal dialogue and say, stay on the gun, dummy. It's a right to left shot. Here it comes again. Stay on the gun and it may take me one or two shots on a, on a, that I'm missing. And I'll have to have that really deep conversation, you know, inside my head and I'm like, I'm going to break this bird and I'm going to stay down on the gun and I'm going to do this and I'll make the correction and make the shot. So, you know, it's, it's all part of, but, but it all, all goes back to how many times if you've done it, you know, that's what, what makes pro anybody's good at what they're doing is because they don't stop, they don't stop doing it. Even when they're sitting at the bar at the 19th hole drinking a beer, they're thinking about that bad shot they made on the, on the fifth hole and they're sitting there replaying that shot over and, and so that next time they won't mess up. And that's that, that's what's the difference between a professional, anybody and an amateur is that they care enough to go sit down and think about it later and go, why did I, why did I hook that ball? Why did I, why did I miss that shot? Why did I screw this up? You know, why did I swing at that bad pitch in the third inning in this baseball player? Yeah. You know, all of those things, you have to be able to sit there and analyze it and self, self correct. After a certain number of years and a certain skill set that you acquire, I think it's easier to maintain that and people go, why don't y'all ever practice? Why don't you ever spend time on the range? Well, if you've shot enough tens of thousands of rounds and you've gotten to a certain skill set and then you, you know, we get into minutia, well, I'm, I'm, well, my clover lead group, one of the rounds wasn't quite touched. Okay. Whatever. That's, so, I mean, like when I, I'm out teaching cops and I'm watching them struggle sliding in and they are 15 at 25 yards and I'm like, well, come on, dude, your, your rounds should almost be touching at this distance, even with opens, I should be close. And you watch and you watch and you watch and you go, and, and I know nothing's wrong with the rifle. Maybe it's off left, right, up, down, whatever, but I go take the rifle and then I go, let me try it and you shoot at the number five and a B21 target and all of your rounds are touching the number five and you go, there's nothing wrong with the rifle. They go, man, you must shoot a lot. Now this is the first time in, in six, eight months I've picked up an AR 15 and this years, you know, so it's, it, but it does, if you don't have to, I, it's a highlight riding a bike, you know, you get, now when I do a group like that, I don't pick up a gun arrested a day because I know I'm from the mess that I'm not going to do that again, because that's not every day. You know, it's like anything else. You have good days and you have bad days. A good day for me would be to out, come close to out shooting or out shooting you on one given day. I mean, that's not often, but if, if I could do that, that would be a good day and, and what kills me is I know you try even less than I try and, and still, but you know, it's just, yeah, I, I, this is, this sounds arrogant and I don't mean it to sound that way, but there's, there's just some things that I was born to do, I guess. And I've been doing it since I was a little kid and you go back and ask my mom and she said, dang, I ain't never seen nothing like that. You want to be humble, go to Argentina and dove hunt next to JD. Make you feel bad. We'll be right back. Breaking news coming in from Bet365 where every nail biting overtime win, break away, pick six, three point shot, underdog win, buzzer beater, shoot out, walk off, and after absolutely every play in between is amazing. From football to basketball and hockey to baseball, whatever the moment, it's never ordinary at Bet365 gambling problem caller text 1 800 gambler 21 plus only must be physically located in Colorado. 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Too many disasters, too many things and I suffer some sort of post-traumatic stress as it relates to that and I'm driving down the interstate and out of the corner of my eye over to the left on the north side of the interstate, this huge pine tree just falls. Hiss the ground and goes, "Woom!" This is on the interstate? Now, there's a bobcat at the bottom of it and there's a whole tree crew down there below the edge of the road. All I see is the tree fall and I grabbed the steering wheel and I did the little bump to the right because after working all those hurricanes and having trees falling around me and blocking the road in front of me, when they made us stay out there and that stuff? I don't remember the name of it. That's what I remember what storm that was but you and I were on the same tree tree that night and we were cutting trees and I just, we were taking turns, this is no lie. We were taking turns watching the other trees around us while one of us is working on a tree and you're basically standing back-to-back, I'm sitting there or he's sitting there, one of us is running a chainsaw and the other one is standing there just looking for waiting on something else to fall on you kind of thing because you're out there and it's just, you know. It's at the peak of the storm. Hey, you're in the middle of the storm patch. Well, that's not what we did because fire trucks and ambulances have to be able to get down those roads to go help people. We literally a couple of times that night we cut our way up the Kecosuki road and then couldn't get, and then couldn't go back back so you cut your, cut one direction, you go north one way and then you're cutting trees and then cut back to the south and keeping roads open but we were in some neighborhood that night and I ain't never been so scared in my life and I've had people shoot at me, I ain't been that scared in my life and we're just watching these big pine trees or just falling all around us and you're trying to clear the road and, you know. I watched one in nights, I forget what year it was but it was one that came through Destin Fort Walton area and caught the edge of Marianna as it came up and swooped, it went through Camelton and I was up there working for the Jackson County Sheriff's Office at the time in an old box city and I drove down Highway 2 a little bit and a pecan tree blew over in a lady's yard out onto the road and I had to drive through her yard to get around back on the road again and as I get back out I'm looking across and I see this poleborn, one of those red iron steel barns with the concrete bases on it was open dirt underneath and some right on the edge of the road and there's some power lines and I saw there's like a 100 acre field there and that wind was whipping coming across that field, picked up that barn, flipped the one side up in the air and it came down on the power lines and you see the flash and the sparks and the things fall on it and I'm now the John Deere Triter is just sitting there like nobody's business but I went looking for a place to go. I was watching... And it pulls them pillars up out of the ground on one of those red nets, that's some wind right there. I'd scared and I was watching the awnings from Cottondale blow down 231 going north. I'm like... And the captain's like y'all find some where to take shelter and I'm like... And it all blew away. All the shelter I'm looking at is blowing away but also I'm gonna go find me something big to sit next to just concrete and of course shaking up and down in the air you know. The crap we do for work man, that's crazy. That was in Charleston in 1989 when Hugo came through and I can remember the traffic lights parallel to the ground, not perpendicular. Yeah. I'm like jeez. And the next day I mean it looked like a gigantic lawn mower had come through and cut off all the tops of the trees, boats on the middle of the street. It's like Marianna post Michael, still I've still got broken trees in my yard that I look out there every day and I got animals, what 150 mile an hour winds do right there. Some of those trees are still, I was cleaning up one yesterday with the grapple trying to get it out of, finally died and the other one's still hanging on. It's coming through. And anyway we'll be back in just a minute. Are you looking for a place to buy quality shoes but want to work with a local small business that greets you like a friend and still knows what they're doing? I'm J.D. Johnson and both Charlie and I use the shoe box for all of our work boots, casual shoes and shirts. Jeff Wilden runs a great store that carries men's, women's and children's shoes in a number of major brands. They know how to fit shoes properly and can even fit you in orthotics to make great shoes fit even better. If you see us we're probably wearing a car heart shirt embroidered by Jeff and shoes from there as well. 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That's the Ancients from History Hit. Hello, it is Ryan and I was on a flight the other day playing one of my favorite social spin slot games on Chumbacocino.com. I looked over the person sitting next to me and you know what they were doing. They're also playing Chumbacocino. Well, incidents? I think not. Everybody's loving having fun with it. Chumbacocino is home to hundreds of casino style games that you can play for free anytime anywhere, even at 30,000 feet. So sign up now at Chumbacocino.com to claim your free welcome bonus at Chumbacocino.com and live the Chumbalight. So if we were talking about shotgun shooting earlier, we have a shoot coming up at my farm on April the 18th, which is the Marion FFA fundraiser just the day before, the Friday before Easter. That's the second one, I don't think it's an ancients, so when does it become an annual event? Third time. Third time? Yes, after three. After three? Well, this is the second. Am I saying that right? The second Marion FFA. Yes. It's after two? The third time. It might be sporting clays. It's not skeet. It's not skeet. It's sporting clays. It's sporting clays. So we set up ten stations out in the field around my house. You're going to have a rabbit? We had rabbits. And we'll have all that stuff. He's got good places to do things. He's got some terrain to work with over there, so we set it up last year and got to do some make some cool shots. It'd be a little different this year, but there's probably going to be some bar bar fence and some cows we got to avoid or some sort of critters by then. I don't know what I'm going to have, but that turkey might escape and have to be engaged in order to... It attacked me. Y'all seen that video? Yeah. Of him in the turkey? Yeah. Oh, that was the turkey getting after Charlie the Light version. You didn't seem to... Well, I noticed your son just goes over and picks him up. I know. I know. And now the hen started laying eggs the other day. Okay. And now he has gotten even possessive around the rest of the family. He's not getting after him, but he's blowing up at my wife where he wasn't doing that before. But he's like, "Hey, I got something going on in here. I want to keep it going on that poor little girl. She's looking a little rough around the edges." So we're collecting them and we're going to try to incubate them and see what happens. We incubated a whole bunch of chicks the other day. We got 10 olive eggers, which they're a blend of different birds that end up laying an ode green egg somewhere in that thing, and so we had 9 out of 10 on our first attempt ever. I'm 58. Never incubate an egg before on a farm, but this... So we got all these different breeds. Let me talk about them more later. Much to JD's chagrin. I'm going to talk more about chickens. Chickens. I would have... If my wife would let me have chickens, I would have chickens mainly because the homeowners association and Clark Lakes don't like them. But they can't do anything about it because there's a state law that says you can have chickens. There's some rules about roosters, you're not supposed to have roosters in certain areas like in the city of Tally, you're not supposed to have roosters. Well, I'll be honest with you, chickens are pretty lucky. What if that rooster identifies as something else? I don't know. See? And we'll see. It's kind of hard to say. It's kind of hard to say. Hold on just a minute. Now that rooster right there, that's Betsy. Now Betsy, don't you call him a hymn? They may look like a rooster. They might look like one. He even talks like one. Don't matter. Right there is a hymn. But you know, it's funny because I've got these weeds, you know, every year, this time of year, we get all this stuff growing around the house, it's bright green vegetation and stuff. And I found out that stuff is chickweed. I am reaching down every morning and every evening and I'm grabbing a handful of chickweed and throwing it in with the dog-gone chickens and they're eating it. And I'm like, "Oh, Lee, the Lord just provides right there." And now I can't mow because I'd be killing the chicken feed. That got the little white, little white tips on it. I got that all over my yard right now. Eat it. It's good. It tastes good. I pass. Oh, it's good. Just don't eat it where the dog pees. Well, I don't always know where that is. So I'll pass on that. I'll ask her. Put it up to her face and go, "Did you pee on this?" And if she makes a funny, if she looks ashamed, then that's she peed on it. I tell you what, my yard's about washed away all the rain we've had until it has a good gracious. All right. I'm looking at this lawn, chickens. The chicken lawn? I forgot we had a lawn here. That's right. I brought something up. I don't know because my wife, she's a property lawyer, you know, and she's been telling me I can't have chickens because we have an HOA. Uh-huh. She's been lying to you, ain't she? Yeah. I'm looking at you. I never really thought the question. Well, see, that's the difference between you and me, Fred. I really don't care about the lawn. I just want me some chickens, but I do respect my wife and she said, "We ain't having chickens so we don't have chickens." Well, she's just that. You want chickens. I can hook you up. I know. I know a guy can get me some chickens. Oh, yeah. I mean, I want some. I'll bring you some eggs again. You take the eggs on my honey. We can have these ourselves. She don't like eggs. Your wife doesn't like eggs. No. Won't eat mayonnaise either. Because he got eggs. Well, I wouldn't complain about her taste too much because she sticks with you. But whatever else might be wrong, whether you better applaud it, go honey, I am so glad. I'm all for whatever you want to do. It's like my wife doesn't like chocolate. She doesn't eat chocolate. I'm like, "That's crazy." You know what I ain't going to say to them because she does like me. Let's just leave it alone. I won't. But, yeah. I don't know. Usually, she's always right. I think that there, if I'm not mistaken, I think there is a state law in Florida that basically told homeowners associations they can't keep people from having chickens. Well, if we're waiting on Fred to answer this question, you forget that never asking attorney for an answer, you can ask him for an opinion, give him a week, and give him a week. He ain't charging us by the hour. He ain't charging me by the hour right now. I'm going to have this. This thing is going to be brief by next week. There you go. There you go. Well, there's something you care about. There you go. So, Fred's going to become the new chicken law. You have any issues out there with chickens or livestock, you know, Fred's going to study it up, and he'll know by next week exactly what you can't do based on. And the thing is, is the state needs to pass a pre-emptive law on this and just ban all local organizations, homeowners, cities, counties, like they do on everything else. It's like having a gun range somewhere. You can have a gun range, and the state law prescribes, you know, how big and what this, I think it's residential areas that you can't have one in, if it's on primary agriculture or residential. That said, I had somebody jump on us the other day. They asked a question on social media about, you know, I just had a deputy tell me that I have more than an acre, I can build a gun range in my yard. And that is true. And my side to city limits. And my side to city limits. Well, you can shoot inside the city limits, you just, I don't know about the gun range. I think that pre-emptive city stuff too, that's a state law, and it's a pre-emptive that says you can't pass any law, city county organization, government can't pass any law that restricts firearms issues, period. Yeah, but I think you can pass the shooting, you know, if I live at a zero-light-line house, I can't go outside. That's under state law, that's a state law that regulates that, but it pre-empts all local laws. Right, but there's, there, the area of the law says you can't shoot within so many feet of it dwelling. Right, right. But that's not, that's not the point of the story I was telling, the point of the story I was telling was he asked about building the backstop. And I said, get you some railroad ties, build you a three-sided structure, fill it full of dirt, and you got a backstop. However, just because you can doesn't mean you should, I mean, he's talking about, he had more than an acre. And I said, if somebody built a gun range, a hundred yards from my house, and they shot when it disturbed me and my animals and everything else, I'd find all kinds of ways to retaliate that were legal. And then I had people jump on me about, why would you retaliate against our personal freedoms in the Second Amendment and all this stuff, and I'm like, because I want to listen to a bunch of racket. I mean, if he's bugging a bunch of racket. If he opened a garage over there and started running zero exhaust drag strip cars next door, it'd be the same thing to me. If you disturbed my, and that's what I found out later was he lives on like five or 10, 15 acres, and that's fine. But, but I said, you just got to be, you got to be reasonable. I'll say, you and I silencer make all that go away. Well, he apparently has silencers, and you know, it wasn't that big a deal, but for somebody to jump on me, and then that guy whose profile it was started criticizing us because you don't like Donald Trump, and I'm like, and I'm like, well, I don't like Donald Trump either as a person. He's not somebody. I think he's doing a fantastic job. I just don't particularly care for him. I don't want to go. I don't want to listen. I don't remember really like to hear him talk. I don't like listening to his speeches because he never shuts up and they keep going. So I like what he does, and I support him and I put it for him. You don't ever shut up either. Shut up. They both got the diarrhea of the mouth. But my point is, is I don't have to like somebody to support them. Yeah. He went so far as to say, maybe I'll not listen to their show anymore because he does. Well, okay. I like Donald Trump. So how's that? So, I mean, I don't know that I go hang out with me. That's what I mean by when I say that. It's just I don't. I mean, there's some things he says that are pretty funny sometimes, I think. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. It's just his... Like the other night when he called Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas in the Congress. It was hilarious. I mean, I about fell out. I thought it was hilarious. I wouldn't have said it. I wouldn't. I mean... So, so I like what he says and what he does. Some of the times I think that he's a little full of his self. And it's not somebody I would prefer to be like this, but that's what I mean by. All right. We'll be back. Some battles are worth fighting. They build character and teach important lessons. Other times, the more we resist, the longer we stay stuck. When a simple change would change everything. Is your bank holding you back? Try my bank. Prime Meridian Bank. Changing is easy. We'll show you how. Prime Meridian Bank. Tallahassee. Crawfordville. And on the web at www.trymybank.com. Number FDIC. 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And if you're looking to sign up, there will be links on our Facebook page, and you can call the shops, and there will be, anyway, you can go to my personal Facebook page, or Talon's Facebook page, and there will be information there that we will share from the Marianne FFA, and that's how you would sign up for that sporting-clays tournament. We were talking about our support and our like or distaste for our president, and I'll say our president, because he's our president, and I didn't like the last one, but he was still our president. Yeah, our president. This one, you know, I just, there are people I do business with I just don't want to hang out with. You know, I don't particularly enjoy spending hours of my life spending time with him. Donald Trump is one of those people that I just don't really feel an inclination to go. Now do I respect him for what he's doing? Yeah. He's done some off-the-wall hair-brand crap, and says some things, and does some things, and I go, "That's just divisive, he really doesn't have to go that far." And I don't particularly like him as a human being because of those things. Now I also believe that he's what's right and necessary for our country right now, and I think that he's doing a good job of it, and it is going to hurt us, but it's like taking medicine. It ain't going to taste good, but hopefully it's going to make you work out. I was listening to some farmers talk today, and you know, we have lost almost half of our beef production and 60% of our sheep production and all that in this country since we went to a no tariff system. We used to feed the world, and now we are importing food in the United States more than ever before. It's ridiculous. And it's because we're not putting tariffs on imports on agriculture products, and people are terrafing the fire out of our exports going to their countries. So you say, "Okay, well, they're putting tariffs on steel and cork, this, that, and other thing." Well, yeah, because there's other things that they are putting tariffs on that we export to their country. If we're exporting stuff over there, and they're keeping it out of their country by putting - Exorbitant tariffs. - Yeah. And so now what Trump is doing is coming back going, you know, we're going to tear a few back. This is in retaliation for what they've been doing to get us on an even keel, because they think that we're the richest thing in the world, and we just do whatever they want to treat us however they need to build, they've been so focused on building their economies, and we have been outsourcing everything to their countries because it's cheaper to do it there, and then what he's going is saying, "Hey, no, no, no, no, no, we're not going to do that. We're going, it's kind of like me getting into homesteading. I'm going to grow my own stuff, I'm going to do my own thing. If I could set up a fence and a border around the place, I probably would in a few years when I don't care what none of y'all think no more." You know, it's just, they'll be here. I'm getting older and older, or you're - Really? - Yeah. - Wouldn't have done this. - I have just about had it under your stuff too. - And like I said, just because I don't particularly care for somebody's personality doesn't mean that I don't think they're a good person, or doing a good job, or doing things correctly or whatever, and I'm going to support them 100%. I just don't particularly care for his personality. There you go. - You need to be correct. - It's my rep. - He cracks me up sometimes. - I believe in stronger. - He cracks me up sometimes. - He cracks me up sometimes too. - I can respect somebody who can say what's on his mind and not care. And I don't know why I respect that. - Well he lends a pretty strong argument to the not being concerned about getting canceled movement because he was a whole half of the country tried to cancel him and he's a president. - He did? - And he made it. - I don't know, I just I like somebody who tells me where he stands and he's not a phony person. - I agree with that 100%. There's nothing phony about him. - Well he sacrificed a lot of money for some time, in a lot of ways I admire him. I don't, but like and admire two different things still. I'm not a fan of his all of his personality. You know what, if he showed up in town tomorrow and said, "Hey guys, let's go out and have lunch together." I'd go with him. - Sure. - I would because you know, but and I would consider it an honor to do so, however if he said, "Hey, I'm in town this weekend. Let's go to church together. I'd go." That's fake. You're full of it. You're trying. I don't know what you're getting out of this. I want to take your kids and get, "No, no, I don't want you, I don't want you being an influence on them because you're going," they'll get canceled from school next week because they'll want the president said, "No, no, no, no, no, no." So I mean there's-- - The one that would be the most fun to hang out with and drink a beer, Bill Clinton without a question. - Yeah. - I mean the stories we could tell each other? - Tell each other. - I don't know. - I think he's pretty disgusting, personally, but there's that. - Well, there's-- - I think you're disgusting, too. There's that. - So there's that. - Which is, there's that. - Why are you carrying a constitution? - I got to reading the dog on thing this week. I am trying to wrap my head around how-- - I don't know where that has finally read the Constitution. - No, I've read it many times, but I was-- - Well, we know a lot of them. - I went back and reviewed it and I'm like, "Where are these district judges, federal district judges coming off telling the executive branch who they can hire and fire? Where is that in the Constitution?" And I can't find it. I can't find it in there, so I mean, and so I broke it down a little bit. Article 1 deals with the legislature, and it's the longest article in the Constitution. And see, there's what, the 10 sections to it, I think? And it lays out all these things that the legislature's supposed to do. Article 2 deals with the president, the executive branch, and in that, there's four sections to article 2, the first one is the longest one, and it talks about how to get him elected. So that doesn't really define any powers. The second one, article talks about him being the commander-in-chief, and what his role is there, and what he can do with the military. And the third article talks about what his powers are, and it's the shortest, well, next to the shortest, the fourth is how to get rid of him, which basically says if he's removing him for high crimes, missed trees and bribery, that sort of thing. But if you look at the last sentence of section 3, article 2, United States Constitution, what it says is he shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. All right, so I'll break that down a little bit. What is a law? Well, that's what Congress passes. It's his job to execute the law. That means to do or refrain from doing something that would not faithfully execute the law. So in that is the hiring and firing of people who work in the executive branch. And I'm trying to figure out where these district judges are coming off. Where do they get that authority to say we can tell the number three, article three deals with the judicial branch, and that's the shortest articles of all three of them, as I was talking to Grant earlier about that. I think there's some significance in that when you look at the powers of each branch of government, it's significant that the third one's the court system. Probably because it was intended to, yes, it's unelected and it was intended to be the least influential of the three. I just don't see where these district judges can dictate what a president can and can't do. Well, I think it's going to end up in the Supreme Court's lap before it's over with because he will push it so far. And here's the thing is he didn't go in. Now had he gone in and said, fire all the black people or fire all the gay people or the LGP, fire them, that'd be different. What he said, fire all the probationary employees, all these people who have not established permanency in their position, go ahead and fire all of them, which you can fire probationary employee without cause. I mean, talk with your wife, but I mean, if you did it as an entire class of people being everybody, not a protected class, absolutely, we got a downsize, we're laying off this many people and they can't accuse him of discriminating against any particular protected class. They're just firing it, he said, fire these people. What they're trying to do is create a protected class, which is federal employees. Federal employees. Right. And that is. He worked for the government. You can't be. No, that's the problem with government employees. A lot of times it's because it's so hard to fire them. Absolutely. Well, he said, that's not that hard. Watch, hold my beer and watch this and he got rid of them. Now I hate it for them. And I don't know what's going to happen with the post office because now they're going to try to fix that mess and it's just been barely hanging on. I think you will, I think in the very near future, I'm afraid that you will see the U.S. Postal Service become privatized. I think you're going to see a lot of privatization of a lot of branches of the government. I think I think NASA will, I think NASA will go away and be privatized. Actually, the post office is actually mentioned in Article 1 of the Constitution as a authority of Congress. Okay. Well, there you go. If Congress has control over that, then it may still exist. Yeah. There's, there's, to establish post offices and post roads. Did you see? Yeah. Well, there you go. It's in the Constitution. It's in the Constitution. Can't do it. Did you see where Chuck Schimmer is going to vote for the continuing resolution to keep government open because he doesn't want Trump to win, he, if we shut the government down Trump wins. That's what he wants. And then, and old Trump's over to go, "Please don't throw me in the prior fact." He's like, "Okay, if you're, if you're helping me in order to hurt me, yeah, you keep playing that game." And then all the crazy left ones are like, "No, no, no, no, no. We can't." They don't, I don't think any of them know what they're doing. Yeah. I agree. I fully agree with that. Which means it's time for a big, vast press to reset button. I think that's what's happening. Next week, chickens. Yeah. We'll see y'all. Breaking news. And this one is almost unbelievable. Yeah. It's all about new customers at Bet365. Because they get $150 in bonus bets when they bet $5 win or lose. And even better, bonus bets can be used on the spread, totals, and player props. There you have it. Bet $5 to get $150 in bonus bets win or lose. And see why. It's never ordinary at Bet365. Winner one for someone must be physically located in Colorado. 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