First, Chris discusses new details about Trump's call with Rep. Kevin McCarthy showing Trump had no intention of calling off January 6th Capitol rioters with Manu Raju and Michael Smerconish. Then, Preet Bharara and Robert Ray join Chris to discuss Trump's defense team's strategy. Chris wraps up the show with Daniel Dale fact-checking claims made by Trump's lawyers.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices