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Prepare yourself for the Hell Gate Bridge, cannibalism, inappropriate material, mob defense, and The Murder Plague.
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FC043 - Public Shame
[music] Hello, and welcome to Flashcast 43, brought to you by our Heron and Juju Plank. Prepare yourself for the Hellgate Bridge, Cannibalism, Inappropriate Material, Mob Defense, and the Murder Plague. [music] To night, we have myself, Oopopanex, Verbal Dancin, Disagame, and there, Audio-Arranging, and J.R.D. Hello. Keyboard-murdering. [laughs] Wow, that one sounded quite violent this time. Yeah, I like that. Before we get into the Pulpila press, I just wanted to throw a couple of quick birthday shout-outs to the mobsters. For real. Happy birthday to Gigantor, whose birthday was just this past birthday. Yeah, he turned 45. Yeah, I thought it was like 63? Really? I heard the word... You guys realize how close me and him are in AIDS, right? What? 74. Okay, and then who else? And today is Fish's birthday. Wow, I heard that he is 16 today. I heard he was eight. [laughs] See, this is the thing is that people on the internet, they're not telling their age anymore, it's just their birthday. And that bothers me. Why? I don't know, but now I don't actually list my age, because nobody else does, and I'm a follower. I don't know if I actually list my age or not, I can't remember, I'm so old. [snorts] [music] Pulpila press. Speaking of ages, we actually had another birthday party happen this recently. That's right. It's two of them. Miss 8's birthday is tomorrow, and she will become Miss 9. Mm-hmm. We gave her one of her awesome birthday presents early today, because we thought it rude to give it to her on Monday in the morning before she could actually, like, hang out with it. Yeah, she's got school, that would be sad. It was an iPod touch, so you want to poke it, right? Yeah. Sure. But that would... the birthday chaos between Mr. 1 turning into Mr. 2. Yep. The transformation. Mm-hmm. Miss 8 moving up to 9. Yep, we had a little girl party, which I was actually stupefied that we actually got a flash pulp recorded without a hitch. Yeah, we didn't even, like, it was sort of loosely planned, like, maybe we'll just write it today. Maybe just... Well, this week was such a ridiculous week overall. It was nice to manage to get something done, even if it was in the middle of a pink hurricane. Yeah. Yeah, to have three, like, 9-year-old girls in the room right next to you, and still be able to have everybody be quiet. Mm-hmm. That was fantastic. Yeah, we went to a movie and had some fast food, and a fire out in the backyard, watched movies, and read until really late. Yeah. Too late, really. But, oh well. Yeah, that's how our parties rule. Yeah. Like, reading. Yeah. We rock like that. Yeah, till the early hours of the morning, yeah. Now, I did want to mention we have a guest episode sent in by Fish. Yes, indeed. But we're going to store up the guest episodes we get over the next little while, so that we can take... It's going to cure. We're going to put it in our jar. Yeah. We're going to take a little time in our Christmas, likely, but we want to still have something to release. Yes. So, if anybody has a bit of a fan fiction, they want to write us and send in. We're happy to release it. It exists outside the canon of the universe, but it's always fun to see other people take a stab at it, so... Mm-hmm. It is so always nice to have a little something on the back burner then, especially for listeners who... You're stuck with your family for half of the day, and you just want a little something that, like, sounds like home. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I definitely... I do find time to listen to podcasts over the Christmas holidays, but I really have time to produce them. Yeah. Yeah, I guess people are traveling, too, because I know that a lot of mobsters listen to it on the road. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I definitely love recording people's fan fictions and seeing how they... how they differ from ours. It's lots of fun. In mob news, we got some contest winners for the trivia. I heard. That was fantastic, and the caption contest ended on Friday. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we've here... we've got to hear from a mobster for his address, but as soon as we have it, we'll have everything out on Monday. Yeah. And we also wanted to mention it was mentioned in the mob on Facebook, but if you are interested in having maybe a few more stickers and helping us spread the word, visually, you can let us know. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. If you happen to stumble across a sticker in the wild, put there by some unknown hooligan. Yeah, high traffic areas, you know. Not like old, pretty buildings or anything, but you know. Yeah. Keep it reasonable. Yeah. In real. Keep it real. But we have begun to see pictures from different people who have... Yeah, it's like the entire I saw it, and I'm so glad. Oh, well, great. That was fantastic. I know. What an excellent pic right by the doors. Yeah. Very nice. And if you're interested in joining in on the fun of the Captain Contest, there's some great work in there. I'm really enjoying those. Oh, yeah. I'm loving some of these entries. Great job. Yes. It's so much fun. We take a classic pulp cover, something that has a little bit of comedic value to it inherently. Mm-hmm. And then just riff on it until somebody has the most likes and call it at noon on Friday. Mm-hmm. So if you'd like to join the link to the mob is in the show notes, but you can also just search the flash mob on Facebook and you'll probably find it. Yeah. We have many uses. This week we've been helpful in many different ways to many different mobsters. Wow. And it's been wonderful. I love our little community that we're building. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. We've been really lucky to attract some great people. Mm-hmm. I hear you have a update, Jessica Mahon, Buddy and Pedro. Yeah. The penguins from the Toronto Zoo who were separated because they had to breed. We need not fear because in the springtime after mating season they will be reunited. They'll at least be in the same habitat. So if they choose to spend their days and nights together they will have the opportunity. Oh, that's nice. So once they do their civic duty. This seems really like 1950s. I know. That's what I'm telling you. That's what I said. But at night they're going to like weep in their bed, they're going to turn over from their lady mate and just weep and... Pedro! That's right. You'll hear each other like speaking penguin from across like different habitats. Oh, wait for you. The spring, baby. The spring. And Pedro will bring out his mandolin. He'll be like, "I heard it in the papers. Did you read? We will be reunited as one." And then, Buddy will shed a single tear. Well, that's good news. Do you want to hear some bad news? What about... Well, some interesting news, not at least. They were poisoned and now they died. Aww, that's horrible. Don't even make them up. You're like, "Take those words back." Poor penguins. I've been following this story about this fellow, Stefan Ramen or Ramen. I don't know how to pronounce his name properly. Have you guys read about this? No. No. He was a sort of playboy-esque world adventure kind of type of fellow. OK. Traveling around from island to island on his yacht. Oh, like us last summer. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Like us on the yacht last summer. So, he's on this French Polynesian island, Nuku Hiva. Well. And he goes missing. OK. Oh, that's not good. There's a lot of concern. Now, here's the thing. This is a place, historically, that has a background in cannibalism. Oh. And immediately, the press goes, "What if it's cannibalism?" And everyone on the island is absolutely certain that it could not in any way possibly be cannibalism. Because they don't practice that. Because the majority of the people on the island are just modern folk. You know what I mean? They have no connection. So then, this picture of the fellow who had led, OK, the guy had gone into the jungle with a fellow called Henry Haiti. OK. Who was a hunter on the island and knew of the island like the back of his hand. OK. Then, Stefan doesn't come back. But Henry does and says that Stefan is injured and his girlfriend needs to follow him into the jungle. So, she refuses. She loses. OK. And then he ties her to a tree and attempts to sexually assault her. But she makes a break for it. She totally, like, hulks out in the skits. Good. Good. But they can't find Stefan. Eventually, well, let me preface this with a quote by cannibal expert Dr. Gundolf Kruger who said, "Hulonesians are now Christian and illiterate, therefore pious and educated, but it is entirely possible that the criminal was led by old rituals into his crime." OK. Now, a picture of Henry Haiti surfaces and he's got this tattoo. It says, "I eat people." The tattoo is a tribal symbol from a notorious clan of cannibals that used to live on the island. Oh, my God. And they locate the bones of Stefan, a ramen, or ramen, or whatever, beside a fire pit. Wow. And Haiti has disappeared. Wow. Now, not only that. So, they were all like, "It's cannibals." No, no, it's not cannibals. Oh, it is a cannibals. It's kind of a guy who's actually is a cannibal. Sorry, cannibal. Wow. Ouch. Great. And to lure people in and be able to kill them. He's going to be eaten until he's old. There is a mad cannibal running around the island of Nuku Hiva or however mispronounced. That's right. So, he lured somebody off their yacht or he just-- Yeah, he offered to guide them into the jungle to hunt goats. And then he just-- Oh, my God. And then he hunts them and eats them like a goat on a spit. Hi. Hey, man. It's real news, but I thought it was fairly salty and-- For real. Well, thanks. I'll leave a link to that in the show notes. There's a fairly extensive daily nail article that I got most of my facts from. That's crazy. Crazy cool. So, on more cultural and less cannibal news, American Horror, the television show. Indeed. We were discussing it last week, but I forgot to ask you guys. I had a question. The whole show is premised on the classic plot of the unwitting family moving into a haunted house. Yes. And they are given the sort of Amityville Horror warning right off the top that the previous tenants had killed themselves in some sort of murder-suicide pact or some such thing. That's right. I wanted to know-- I just wanted to put it to you guys, maybe to the mob. Would you buy a house where there was a murder-suicide? If you were told that that house had previously had tenants who had, I don't know, hung themselves or shot themselves in some portion of the home, would you feel comfortable moving in there? A poke? Um, it depends-- I'd like to say it depends because I can picture some really, really nice houses that I would really like to live in. And if somebody had themselves in one little tight corner of that house, I'd like to think I wouldn't have a problem with it. And if it was a nice enough house, it would be okay. But then as I was, like, ruminating on that thought-- Like shivers went down my spine and I couldn't help but shudder. So I don't know if I actually could do it. You're saying your fear can be bought, maybe? Depending on how nice the house is. I would-- I don't know, 'cause even just thinking about it makes me shudder, so. I don't know if I could really-- it would have to be a really nice house. What about you, Jessica, man? Rollance, man. I don't know. I don't really have a problem with it all, honestly. Just as long as there wasn't any aftermath all over the wall, it sounded pretty good. That would be a reckless opportunity, too. I don't really think anything my future will be affected by some crazy guy's decision. Mm-hmm. No, I completely-- and I would completely take advantage of this real estate prices. I'd haggle them down, but really, at the end of the day, I would not be concerned at all. Yeah. Should be all-- this is the murder room, we're gonna get, like, dummies and put them in here. Yeah, right where it happened. So, I'm gonna put my bed right under it. Anyways, yeah, I'm really not concerned about it. Yeah. Sell it to me, baby. I think it actually fell into that camp, as well. I don't think it bothered me too much. I'd probably get the occasional 3 a.m. like wandering through the house, the tech and the heebie-jeebies. [laughs] That's adorable. Nothing that couldn't be-- I just see you all six cents, like, in your tidy-watties, which you don't really own. I'm going pee, and I'm being like, "Oh my God, I'm running into the bedroom." [laughs] It was tall, kind of sucks on. Right. 'Cause you sleep besides that, I feel. Yep. But you're all man-sized and furry. [laughs] So, we had some mixed thoughts in the mob about the movie in time. Mm-hmm. And it's kind of made me rethink it too, 'cause I started off wanting to see it, but also being apprehensive, because it has Justin Timberlake, and I kind of got a thing against him. [laughs] What? I thought you liked Justin Timberlake. I thought you were all closeted fan of Justin Timberlake. Oh, yeah, me and Justin Timberlake are way back. I think you do have a certain enjoyment for his music. I think you just have a certain shame about it that makes you probably make your own name. You know what? You know what? I'll tell you-- Three times by the-- Car-crowing. I was going to say the dick-in-the-box-crowing or something. [laughs] Yeah. You know what? It's actually more-- there's this one album that I listen to a lot around the time I met you guys, actually. Yes. And that's the only Justin Timberlake music I like. But only because it reminds me of you, which is kind of weird because you don't like it. It just reminds me of that time. Although, I'm not sure where I fall on the side of the argument regarding the film. Oh, yeah, the film. I have to admit that I do-- I really enjoy having this sort of mixed consideration about the movie. Like, I really enjoy multiple viewpoints. And it's nice to have a little contention arguing it out. Yeah, but, uh, respectful. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But it's nice to be able to see a little debate without anybody being mean. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we had to, uh, we'd use little mob outside in the internet in a more, what, defensive, forceful nature. Oh, yeah. Not on our home turf, we're peaceful here. Yeah, me just having a little trouble. Always happy to back her up. For real. Anytime. But speaking of things I might beat up, have you guys seen the Snow White and the Huntsman trailer? Yes. I thought it looked very cool. I'm concerned that despite the fact that the trailer looks pretty epic, it does. It does. It's going to turn into-- do you recall the trailers for Van Helsing, or do you recall the terrible film that was Van Helsing? Mm-hmm. Yes, yes. I remember that more so than I do the trailer. That was a film that really had a lot of visual spectacle to it, and I have to admit I-- Yes, yes. I really enjoyed the first quarter, or whatever it is, where they basically just do a big homage to the old Universal Monsters. Mm-hmm. But after that, it just turns into this ridiculous Hugh Jackman run-a-muck CGI fest. And that's kind of what I feel like Snow White is. It's just 300 plus fairytale. I always find it interesting when you see one of those somewhat non-- How would I worry that I wouldn't expect-- for example, when I see Keira Knightley in a sort of badass role, I don't necessarily think of her as a badass. I think of her as somebody who would be snapped in half fairly easily. And Kirsten Stewart, I just think of it as kind of being-- The entire father. --struck of her shoulders and being like, "Man, okay, fight, whatever. I don't care." [laughs] It's not what I think it was a war here. Well, we'll see. Maybe. Maybe the magic will happen. You know who I wouldn't want to get in a fight with? Jody Foster. I think Jody Foster's little knuckly hands and punchy fella. You know what? I could see her being, like, really wiry and scratchy. Think of her in, like, taxi. Swinging. It should be like a cat. Cat in a bathtub. Swinging. Swinging in a bathtub. Swinging in a cat in a bathtub. [laughs] Speaking of fighting, have you guys seen the red-tailed ills trailer? No. This is an interesting one. Why haven't I seen anything? This is right up the pulp alley, so this is really why I'm bringing it up. I only mentioned Snow White in the Huntsman because it seems to be everywhere, so I could probably mention it, but this one-- I think you wanted to. Yeah, this one I'm actually excited about. World War II film is about pilots. It's a, I don't know, it's like a scrappy underdog story. These black pilots who have to fight for me. It stars Jody Foster. [laughs] These black pilots led by Jody Foster have to fight for their recognition. It's like cats in a bathtub. [laughs] Oh, that's rough. Eventually being allowed to essentially risk their lives on the front lines, having to fight their way to that sort of respect. That sounds really great. [laughs] I'm a sucker for any sort of World War II fighter play in film. It just scares me. Like, they just technology back then, airplanes back then. It just seemed like we were in a tin can. That's what's great about it, is that it's such a simpler machine in its way. Like now you kill a dude. [laughs] Modern fighter jets, you're like miles from the dudes that you're killing at any one time. Yeah. But those old planes, you had to point yourself at the other guy. [laughs] But in the same way that I can't get enough of Space Combat films, there's something about World War II era fighter pilot. Well, it is kind of cool to have to keep yourself alive in the air and try to shoot at somebody. A moving target. That's pretty awesome. That's pretty awesome. Yeah, I don't think I would have the stuff personally, but it's fun to watch. On the flip side, I should also mention the action film that I probably will want to see the least in the next little while. Okay, well, then let's talk about it. Expendables, too. I feel like we can mention it for its fault factor, but there's some pictures released recently about some of the cast together. This is really why I'm mentioning it, because there's Sylvester Stallone, which we hear from the last one. Yeah, okay. We believe Bruce Willis was also on board. But Arnold, no. But now there's Chuck Norris, Terry Crews, Jon Paladam. He's been in a lot of stuff. He actually doesn't only do action films. He's one of the few guys on that thing who do a few different movies. He's a handsome fellow. I'm trying to remember what else he's been in. You think he's pretty? It's okay. Well, he plays that role, I mean. That's a pretty boy. Jean-Claude, I thought he was too good for this. I guess he saw how good the Expendables one went. They should have just been like, no, but Sylvester. He's so nice. Screw you. No, screw the dope. Yeah. Just like that. I'm really good at that. He was in Bridesmaids. Jean-Claude, man, dammin' Bridesmaids. No, it's Terry Crews. He was the boot camp instructor. He does a lot of B-grade action movies. Okay. Anyway, Jean-Claude's in it. A couple other sort of more modern. Punchy punchy. Punchy punchy guys. Yeah. Okay. So that's happening. Dolph Lundgren. And Dolph. And Chuck Norris. That's crazy. Chuck Norris, that's awesome. What about Chuck Norris's mustache? You know, the whole beard's on board. Oh my gosh. I'm sure there's going to be so many Chuck Norris jokes. It's going to be great. I know. Him with like, you know, because with Texas Ranger, there wasn't a whole lot of money in the show. So to have Expendables money and Chuck Norris, he's going to like kick fireballs. It's going to be awesome. I really... Doesn't he already kick fireballs? Yeah. I think that's one of the things Chuck Norris can do. Yeah. I like the public idea of Chuck Norris. I'm not such a fan of the actual guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't actually like Chuck Norris now. Screw you, Chuck Norris. Okay. You're out of here. I'm a little bit more, uh, high brownies. Book Club. Coming to... We're going to do the book club discussion next week. Excellent. Yep. Final week. Eric, the mailman has posted up a review of the pretty spoiler free review of the book already. Apparently. You can find that at eric-the-mailman.blockpot.com. I think everyone seems quite pleased with it though. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit of contention and I think I know exactly what the problem is going to be and we're just going to keep it under our hat till next week. Mm-hmm. But I'm also going to have to point out that we need to nominate a new book. Okay. So I was thinking maybe because he's so handy with a novel recommendation, we could draft Joe into doing it. That's a fantastic idea. No. Hey, Joe. What do you say? What do you know? If there's any... Toronto, more local news in a sense. Toronto recently had the International Antiquarian Book Fair, which is very interesting because apparently the rest of the book market, the rest of the publishing market is tanking. In a sense because Kobo and all of the e-readers and stuff are coming out. But antiquarian books are apparently on the rise. Yeah, well, you know, people are going to be printing books less and less, you know? Yeah, it's interesting to think of it moving into almost entirely a collector's sort of realm, like the books you really enjoy maybe you put on your shelf otherwise. It's like music, you know? Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. The truth is though... Or TV shows. I have certain series that I like to have. Yeah. On DVD or something. I'm going to get to extras. Anyways, continue. The thing about books though is that you don't need to upgrade your interface for them every few years. You don't have to go from VHS to... Yeah. Have it. At the same time... When the apocalypse hits, it's there. I consider the number of books I've read in the last few years and the number of those books that I'd actually want to keep, you know what I mean? The number of paperbacks that I've essentially run through and been like, "Okay, I'm done. I never need to see this book again." Mm-hmm. Yeah, it is kind of a hassle to go use Bookstore. Like, it is kind of fun, but it's hard to do with all of our little people. Well, something that actually Eric the Mailman mentioned in his review was that, and this was sort of a tangent on his part, was that things like Kobo are going to allow us to have this access to back libraries that we were never able to. Yeah. Yeah, the access. You heard about it in some sort of used Bookstore, but it was a pain. And if you had to buy it off Amazon and it was out of print, it could really cost you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's a very good point. Speaking of, although we missed the book fair, they did have a copy of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Mm-hmm. And the original first print in three volumes published in 1818. The first edition, that's so awesome. Apparently, the book is appraised at $168,000. Wow. I would have loved to have seen that. Mm-hmm. Or own it. And further pulp news, pulp in the sense of books at least. Douglas Copeland has a new book out, Canadian author, who I love. Highly inappropriate tales for young people. Well, that sounds fun. Just a little snippet. I just wanted to bring it to people's attention, but here's a quick snippet from the Global Mail. These contemporary fairytales are grim and populated with troubling figures. Brandon, the action figure with issues who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder following his tour of duty. A hard-drinking minivan named Kevin who abducts children temporarily for their pocket change. And the guys in shot class who smoked out behind the asbestos storage bins. Jeez. Yeah, so it sounds like a ridiculously fun little book. Yeah, it does. They're calling it Kid Lit Noir, which is interesting. Yeah, okay. Awesome. So, I'll link to that in the show notes, but I thought people might like a heads up. Speaking of snippets. No, they... Oh, you're going in somewhere. Yeah. Now, they mentioned in the article that it's really not something that's appropriate for children despite the fact that it... Says that it is. Yeah, it essentially looks like candy for kids, but it's intended to be a bit of a snare. I was just wondering between the two of you, what your first brush with inappropriate material, be it book or film, might have been... Like porn? No, not necessarily. Just something that was a... You knew when you saw it that it was above your head that you shouldn't have been watching it when you were a child. Oh, we talked about that last week. This is redundant, Judy. Did we? Oh, that... Well, that's true first. That's true first. That's true first, like, encounter with something frightening. I think he's talking about more just inappropriate in general. Just, for example, let me outline. When I was a child, maybe eight or nine, I was introduced to the film Predator, the Gigantor, his uncle's movie shelf. And although at the time I wasn't terrified of the film at all, we didn't think it was inappropriate. We just thought it was awesome. But at the same time I realized now, perhaps that wasn't a film for a child quite my age. Or actually the other one, which was right around that same time, probably the same week that I first watched Predator. Puppet Master? The film Puppet Master? Okay, I remember that one. Which, even more than Predator, Puppet Master was one of my early favorite horror films. But something I didn't really recall when I was a child was the sheer amount of nudity within the film. When I watched it when I was older, I was really surprised that people were stripping off their clothing every... Well, not every second scene, but quite regularly. It's so funny. I think back to all the times that I saw things that were inappropriate in movies when I was younger. And it was at, like, pastors' houses, or people from church. When, like, we were in the basement with the kids, and we were, like, watching stuff we shouldn't have. The more it's for bringing fruit, though, the more likely you're going to reach for it, right? It's so crazy. Yeah, but, like, we watched horror movies as children, like, all the time. We were always watching creepy things. I don't even know why, like, I had a, like, a resurgence of creepiness where it scared me again. But for the longest time, like, as an eight-year-old child, we watched the scariest stuff that was... Yeah, isn't it hilarious that eight-year-old you had more courage than current you? Yeah, sure do it! Well, no, I think I'm getting much better. Oh, certainly, certainly. You've desensitized yourself again to a certain point, but that's all it is, right? You've just seen so much of it when you were eight, and then you forgot about it. Actually, another source of oddness for me, even maybe younger than those were films that was book-based, and it was my grandma's knitting basket. Really? She had a rocking chair, a glider, as she called it. And while she was not busy doing farm work or whatnot, she would sit and knit, or she would read her stories. Her stories! Her busty lady stories, and it was always, it was just hard-looking romance novels and the like, but when you're, like, seven, that can be pretty hilariously titillating. Agreed. Anyway, how about you, about what was your first brush with inappropriate material? I don't know how old I was, but it was probably finding... Oh, hang on. It does. [laughter] God. It was at my grandparent's house, and it was finding... Wait, was it National Geographic boobs? No. No, it wasn't. Okay. I wish it was National Geographic boobies. Finding what a... Readers digest condensed version of Lolita. Did you find naked lady magazines? Yeah. That's fine. I found, like, my dad's, like, naked lady magazines. Oh, from when he was, like, a teenager living. Oh, wow. That's fun in a way, though. That's historic, like, his old penthouse magazines. Crazy. Okay, well, I think that wraps up popular press. I just wanted to give a big thanks to the people who have been spreading the word of a flashbulb, either via the stickers or there are a few of you who you know who you are, who have really gone out of their way to push the word. So, I appreciate it. Yeah, and sharing on the Facebook also helps great. Oh, yeah. That's hugely helpful. [music] Spotty Bottom. [water splashing] Going for a walk along the shoreline of anybody of water is usually a relaxing experience. The sounds of the water and perhaps the creatures within both soothe the soul and conjure up images of what might be beneath the surface actually making those sounds. Then there's the shore itself. It's always fun to keep an eye out for some trinketer treasure made by either nature or man. Well, what if the trinket is man or a man or more specifically a part of a man? Or a woman for that matter, I'm no sexist. Well, this very thing has been occurring with some degree of regularity on the west coast of the U.S. and Canada. More specifically, human feet. Here's a bit more from the Daily Mail. The mystery of the feet washing ashore in Canada has widened with the discovery of yet another limb that has washed ashore of a lake in the region. The latest severed foot was found by young campers in a size 12 men's hiking boot on British Columbia's Sassamet Lake over the weekend. What separates this foot from the other 12 found in the British Columbia area since 2007 was that this was the first foot found in a hiking boot and not a running shoe. The other key difference was that this was the first limb found in fresh water and not salt water. But still, authorities say the foot was separated from the rest of its body by natural causes and not a violent means. Steven Finesca of the BC Coroner Service said it would be very difficult for anybody to separate a body without leaving small impressions, such as nicks on the bones. Mr. Fresco said that the previous cases have suggested that they were not dealing with a ruthless serial killer or another nefarious possibility. He added, "The information we've got from that would suggest we're not dealing with anything suspicious." Last month, two of the feet were found to belong to a missing Canadian woman who jumped to her death. I'm supposing from a cruise liner. Anyway, the discovery appears to bolster the theory the human remains could be the result of suicides instead of foul play, as it was suspected earlier this year. Feet are most likely the first part of the body to naturally detach once a body has been submerged underwater and in strong currents. And in most cases, the feet may have floated to the surface because they were all in buoyant, lightweight, rubber-soled sneakers. Heavier footwear would have sunk to the bottom. The British Columbia Coroner Service has revealed the woman, who has not been identified, jumped from the Patula Bridge in New Westminster, British Columbia in April 2004. It has been reported. Both of her feet, which police said were in new balance running shoes, washed ashore six months apart in different parts of the Fraser River in Richmond, BC, with the left foot found in May 2008 and the right in November of that same year. The severed feet began washing ashore along the northwestern coast in 2007 in a case which baffled police and sparked a flurry of speculation over how they got there. What seemed initially like a bizarre coincidence has become the subject of a major investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the British Columbia's Coroner's Office. Some theories being considered included, that the feet belong to the victims of a boat or plane crash, a killer, or were even the remains of those who died in the Asian tsunami. However, the theory that they belonged to victims of suicide who jumped to their deaths into the water seems the most likely explanation. A foot found floating in the water along the shore of Vancouver's False Creek in August still had part of a leg attached, police said. Since then, a number of explanations have been put forward. Some suggested the limbs might be from stowaways who smuggled themselves onto a container ship as it left of Vancouver. Others claimed the feet could be from the victims of the Asian tsunami in 2004 or part of a human trafficking ring. But when it emerged that one had apparently been deliberately severed, rumors began spreading that a serial killer with a twisted calling card might be at work. Men and women are among those whose feet have come ashore. Complicating matters were claims by oceanographer Curtis Ebbsmeyer who said that the feet could have drifted as far as 1,000 miles. Pranksters have also made the investigation more difficult. In 2008, they planted a hoax foot on Vancouver Island which renewed interest in the case. As for me, I think it would be interesting to stumble across a human foot, so to speak. I suppose I'd do the proper thing and report it to the authorities, but I have to admit, it would be tempting to pack it up and send it off to the Yukon where the folks up there could make at least five very interesting cocktails. I'm Jeffrey Lynch and that's This Week's Spot of Bother. Oh, creepy. I remember hearing a lot about that. Yeah, I think the first time I heard about this story was on the original while there's some things podcast actually. No, that can't have been the first time you've heard about it. Maybe the Daily Show? No. This story has been around, he was saying, since like 2007. That's when they started washing up on shore. I suppose. Yeah, fair point. Well, that was the first time he heard about it. Jeez. No, no. I do remember hearing about this story. I thought Bother can think. Anyway, the first time I heard detailed information, how was that? Yeah. I remember speculating a lot about it. But that's interesting when it's like one of the first detachable parts. Yeah, I hadn't heard the suicide angle before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was very bothersome. Yeah, it was nice to hear a follow-up from Jeff, though. And there's a lot of references to previous episodes as well. I know. He beat me to the Yukon joke. Yeah, he was thinking about that. We saw the twinkle in his eye, but you beat him to the punch. Anyway, thanks a lot, Jeff. Yes, wonderful. Always fantastic. Mm-hmm. Art-evil NPR. Mm-hmm. And now I believe we have a cinematic consideration from our own three-day fish, birthday boy, three-day fish. Fresh fish. A new batch of cinematic pulp with the always listening. Three-day fish. Hey, Flashcast. Uh, sadly, three-day fish. Did not see any movies this weekend. He apologizes. But there is progress, or there is a work in progress at the moment. With JRD, JMA, and Poponex's permission, I would like to start a sticker contest. This is the contest. I have picked a Flash pulp film of the year. And I will drop a hint every Flashcast along with my reviews. And if anybody can guess it, they get stickers. The first hint I'm going to give, it is a movie I reviewed, and it is not a retro review. That is the first hint. Always listening. So there's another opportunity for people to get stickers. That's always nice. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Fantastic idea. Yeah. I'm very interested to see what he's going to have chosen as the pulp film of the year. If you want to get fish a little present for his birthday, you can swing by his Facebook page. He has three-day fish, all one word. Just give him a like. I think that'll boost his love for you. His birthday spirit. He will love you so much more. Yeah. Me too is posting up nice little nuggets in there, film related items. Let's move it along to the streets of New York. Hellgate. Execution rocks. This is New York, and this is your New York minute. When you think of New York, especially this time of year, I'm sure many of you think of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, skating at Rockefeller Center, and of course the theme is Christmas tree. You know all the bright lights, big city stuff? Not me. I think you know that by now. New York is full of cool history if you know where to look, and your atlas is a great place to start. You do own an atlas, right? Execution rocks is not a part of New York City. It's located in the center of Long Island Sound at the entrance to New York Harbor and is much closer to New Rochelle than NYC. It also boasts a very cool lighthouse that dates back to 1850 and was added to the National Register of Historic Places in 2007. I love lighthouses. Let's stop for a second and recap. 1850. Lighthouse. Execution rocks. Want to bet it's haunted? Come on, how many episodes of Scooby-Doo, am I describing? The legend goes that during colonial times, the British, wishing to avoid public executions that would inflame the revolutionary spirit, would carry out secret executions there. They would chain the condemned to the rocks at low tide and the rising water would eventually drown them. Some stories say that the skeletons were left chained to the rocks as a warning for future troublemakers. According to LighthouseFriends.com, the ghost of the condemned had their revenge. A shipload of British soldiers sent to pursue George Washington on his retreat from Manhattan to White Plains, founded on the reef. The legend of the executions had such hold that when lightkeepers were assigned to execution rocks, they were under a unique contract. No lightkeeper was ever to field-chain to the reef. Instead of stating a set length of duty, their contract read that their length of service was for as long as they were willing, if for any reason they requested a transfer, it was instantly granted. Of course, other sorts say that the name execution rocks comes from a more mundane reason, that the name for this outcrop was chosen to reflect the historically dangerous shipping area created by the rocks' exposure during low tides. Guess which story I prefer. Hellgate is a narrow part of the East River near Queens and it is spanned by the Hellgate Bridge. How cool is that? Wouldn't you love to say that you crossed the Hellgate Bridge to work every day? And what about the end of the day? Yep, I'm crossing the Hellgate Bridge and going back to the wife. Marriage is fun that way. Anyway, Hellgate comes with a Dutch word "hellgot" which can mean either Hell's Hole or a Bright Gator Passage. It's actually a fairly common name for hazardous waterways in this part of the world. From the web. By the late 19th century, hundreds of ships, including the HMS Husser, had sunk in the Strait. In 1851, the US Army Corps of Engineers began to clear obstacles from the Strait with Explosives. The process would last 70 years. On September 24th, 1876, the Corps used 50,000 pounds of explosives to blast the dangerous rocks, which was followed by further blasting work on October 10th, 1885. The Corps carried out the largest explosion in the process, annihilating flood rock with 300,000 pounds of explosives. The explosion sent a geyser of water 250 feet in the air. The blast was felt as far away as prints in New Jersey. The explosion has been described as "the largest planned explosion before testing began for the atomic bomb." The rocks at Hellgate are also said to be the site of British executions, but if you believe old legends, practically every place around here was. History is written by the victors. I'm Barry, and this has been your New York Minute. The life and death nature of that posting. You can see the story of the "The White House" and the "The White House" and the "The White House". People putting fantastical associations on things that are just nature is wonderful. You can find all the Barry's blogging at bmj2k.com, New York and otherwise. You can also find Jeff Lynch at bothersomethings.com. He posts up the text versions of all of his spots bothered and sometimes puts up a little lecture or something. As I mentioned earlier, you should like fish on Facebook, because he'd be a big fan of that. Happy birthday, dude. We're doing it like that. Happy birthday again. So, mail time. I just wanted to mention upfront that if you guys have any comments, questions or suggestions, you can email us at comments@plashbop.com. Sometimes I fear it gets very near the end, so it might be worth mentioning in front. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's like a little sponsor break, but it's us. Mm-hmm. I feel like PBS. We got some more returns on the superstition talk. Excellent. Amy sent some stuff in. She was mentioning that her grandmother would watch the Celtics back in the Larry Bird Days, and she would say her rosary while she was doing so. Oh, that is so sweet. But better yet, she turned off the TV if they were winning, because she was convinced that if she continued to watch, they would lose. Yeah. So, she took the joy from herself in order to have them win. That's interesting. Sacrifice. Idea if you deny yourself in the playroom. The joy. Yes. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that you have to suffer in this life to have a better one when you're dead. Apparently, she was the same way when John McEnroe was playing tennis. How do you like that? That's interesting. That's adorable. That is sweet. She was also mentioning that she's collected pennies since she was a little girl. She picked them up on the street. She says free money, but also for luck. And now she has a grandson named Lincoln. Oh. That's awesome. That's a fantastic name. Sweet. We should have another one, just to call it. No, I'm Lincoln. Nope. That's a tough subject around here. Amy blogs at ammyblog.wordpress.com, I believe. And we also got something from our fellow Jello, a man of stage and podcast, right over at radiosrevenge.com, but he also does a lot of theater work and so he sent in a listing of traditions involving the theater and superstitions. Very cool. Apparently, actors never clean out their makeup box for fear that they'll never need it again. If they find a thread, they wind it around their finger in hope of securing a lengthy contract. And then this article mentions a few that are very practical, like there's no whistling on stage because back in the day, stage hands, who were up in the rigging above the theater, were often moonlighting sailors. So a whistle was often taken as a signal and you might accidentally drop a piece of scenery or something because the stage hand thought it was time to queue. Apparently, there's a ban on real flowers, it's bad luck, but it's really maybe because they wilt so easily. Also bad luck to have real jewelry on stage, although really it might have something to do with messing up lighting design. Or whatever. Yeah. And you're not supposed to have more than two lit candles in a dressing room as also bad luck, but at the same time, good advice not to burn down your theater. Yeah. Yeah. Those are all really awesome, though. I've never heard of any of those. And you know, like theater has its traditions that it sticks to and it's nice to have an insider. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And then of course, the famous one that everyone knows about the theater is Macbeth. Yeah. Patrick Stewart, I thought they mentioned in the article that Patrick Stewart has a theory that because several of the fight scenes from the film are set in the dark, it's much more likely than an actor is going to get injured just because they're going to walk in a furniture or whatever. Yeah, I guess. So I thought that was a fun little item. I'll post the link to the article in the notes. Oh, great. Thanks. Thanks a lot, Joe. For reels. Uh, and then finally in the superstition category, Nick the Captain posted up a website aisle of Jura. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. Uh, apparently it's a, well, the website itself is a promotion for a whiskey distillery, but the idea is that you find these 13 superstitions that are local to Jura itself, which is full of odd superstitions. Like you can only, I believe it's, you can only stack haystacks clockwise. And there's, there's another minor items like that, but uh, if you find all 13 superstitions, you can enter to win a trip to the island. Cool. That is so cool though. Yeah. That's fine then. You know so much about the history and culture. Yeah. But statistically you're never going to win. Well, you know, that's a lot of effort to go through to get that. You got to narrow down how many people are actually willing to do that. So I also, because when I encounter one of these things, I don't believe anything about it. I actually had to Google to make sure there actually was an island of Jura and Wikipedia basically says that the island of Jura is one of Scotland's last wildernesses, a little over 200 people are outnumbered by 5,000 deer on this stunning Scottish island. That's awesome. Yeah. That is cool. So, let's go look at some deer. Fair there. Let's go. Let's go on. Why aren't we there? Didn't you say it was a whiskey distillery? Yeah. Well fair enough. Done. And I'm there. Nick also mentioned counting necklice. Yes. I had actually heard this one before too. So it's slightly different, but uh, there's a rhyme, right? Yes. Something like that. Some sort of child. Yeah. It goes, one is for sorrow, two is for joy, three is, three is for a girl, four is for a boy, five is for a boy, I don't know why I have to count on my fingers. I know. I'm watching you doing it. Five is for silver, six for gold, seven for a secret, never to be told. Eight for a wish, nine for a kiss, ten for a bird, you must not miss. And actually I heard it a little differently and I heard it, um, you said that it, depending on your locality. Oh yeah, I was reading that depending on like in North America, Magpies are much less common. Some people switched it over to crows or whatever. So if you see that many crows or Jackdolls or blueberries or. Yeah, but I'd heard it slightly different. One's for sorrow, two's for Mirth, three's for a death, four's for a birth, five is for silver, six is for gold, seven is for secret, never to be told. Eight is for heaven, nine is for hell, and I can't remember what ten is. Hmm. Oh well. Nick also mentioned a variation where eleven for a baby born in the dark. Oh, that's a little weird, it's so creepy. Yeah, that's out of the fantasy, it's like the anti-crous. I mean, Damien. If you see eleven Magpies in an early age person's book. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, yeah, that was a good one. I actually must say that I hadn't heard this one before. Really? So that was fun. Okay. And that's the end of Superstitions. If you guys have any more, certainly send them in. I'm enjoying this mass compilation we've managed to bring together the numbers. Oh my gosh. You know what that should do? I should put these on the wiki. Yeah. I would actually really enjoy that because we certainly deal in enough fake Superstitions. It'd be nice to get a few real ones up there. Yeah. Yeah. And somebody that I've never heard of. Now, I believe I hear an echo from the past, an echo from Rich the Time Traveler. Hello Flashpult crew. This is Rich coming at you again from the Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey Past. I've been saving up some comments and questions, so I hope you won't mind if this ramble's a bit. First, one of the recent Flashcasts I was listening to, JRD, made the comment that he thought Flashpult would be finished at episode 500. I'm just glad I was alone in the car when I heard that as it earned a full-on Vader no. So many mixed feelings in that comment. One hand. I never really wanted to see Flashpult end. I guess I always hope that if any of the storylines got tied up, another character would be introduced and it would just keep carrying on. On the other hand, I understand you wanting some closure and certainly would never want you guys to carry on if you reached a point where you're not feeling that into it or just weren't feeling like you were able to do it as well as you are now anymore. So mixed feelings there. Once you comment on the pilgrimage episode, to a certain extent that episode caught me off guard because your unified world comment you'd made previously wasn't on my mind when I was listening to it. So at first, I thought you were doing a fantasy piece and then as the story built, I thought there's a twist going to be here. The God is actually empowered by the faith of his followers as they travel with him and join up with him. And then I'm going to wonder if there was no actual God, but just that the faithful were educating each other as part of the pilgrimage, which is partly what was going on there. But then with the reveal, Aggie hit me like a ton of bricks and it all made sense. I cannot tell you how much I love the ending. I immediately took it as a call back to grumpy as well. I'm really hoping to see more vignettes in this world. To me, it evoked sort of a world-run-down reclaiming of knowledge vibe that I really love in stories. It reminded me a lot of Walter Miller's "Cannical for Leibovitz" and "King Stark Tower." And hopefully you don't mind my constantly drawing comparisons to other works. It's purely intended as a compliment. I've also got a few black-backroom plot questions if you'll answer them. First is, "Is karwick at penultimate apocalypse?" In other words, once karwick rises, is it the end of all mankind period? Or are there post-karwicky and survivors? Will there ever be a post-karwicky and episode or storyline? Or have we had one already? And a question about Will Coffin and Bunny. I'm wondering if Bunny is eventually going to become more of an apprentice to Will. Right now, she sort of has this strange companion relationship. Not really a peer, not really a help just there, sort of a bouncing sounding board for him. I'm curious, Will at some point needs to pass on his trade and Bunny shapes up to become that apprentice. Though, it isn't clear to me if Bunny is younger or him or not, whether that would even work. So, just some clarification there. Also, I want to give props to Jessica May. I'm just hitting the episodes with the Foley work, and I'm really digging it. The black hole episode with the conjurer was great. It was very subtle at first. It took me a while to realize it was both sounds. I was listening to my car, and I couldn't tell where the sound was coming from and what it was. And then later in the episode, I literally was thinking, "Oh my God, I hear the mice. I can't wait to hear how your skills progress and what great accents you give to the stories with this work you're adding in." I hope I didn't forget you. The readings keep getting better and better. I really love the voice work. I always have trouble keeping more than a couple straight in my head when I'm reading to my kids and try to do voices. So, all the characters you do is amazing. So, keep it up. My last comment is a bit of a left-hand turn. I should say more of a question. I just want to share a bit of a pulpy TV I've been enjoying. It's not new, but it's new to me, thanks to Netflix streaming. It's a BBC series called Primeval, modern-day London. Time travel anomalies dinosaurs. Need I say more? Have you guys seen this? I'd be curious what you think. Anyway, tell Carwick Rises this is rich. I love that unintentionally riches played entirely into our time travel or rich-to-the-time travel are mean. That's hilarious. But we love you. That was the nicest call ever. We were like, "Ew!" Yeah, thanks a lot, Rich. Yeah. Well, will there ever be a post-Carwicky in episode, eh? Or, see, he had a little addendum question there, which was- Or have we. Yes. Are we all ready? Yes. And I think that Rich is a very astute listener. He is, indeed. So much to talk about. I'm glad that you enjoyed the pilgrimage, but definitely Stains is one of the favorites in the back catalog, I think. My kids have heard that one. Sometimes I just listen to it on my own, and it makes me cry. Every time I listen to it, it makes me cry. There- Now, it's interesting, because although there will be threads added, as I think I've mentioned before, uh- Oh, yeah, the all-out bater-no. That was so- Well, not great, 'cause you suffered, but yeah. Yeah. It's a bittersweet bater-no. I appreciate that. You're that concerned about it. Yeah, for real. It's almost like, "Rich wants us to go on, could we go on past that?" Well, and there's always- See, here's the thing that I'm always turning over. There's no reason that I can't write another Mulligan story that takes place in the middle of something. Mm-hmm. As a novel or something else. Exactly. Exactly. Any character can come back. It's just- It may not be, like, in this structure, this format. But who knows, you know? Who knows. Yeah. We're not even halfway there yet. Frankly, we haven't even managed to release episode 200, so we'll probably never get around by releasing 500. Mm-hmm. I think I'm more done than both of you for 200. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're having a race of tortoises amongst us. Yeah. Seriously. I'm, like, so on that stuff. Uh-huh. But yeah, like I was mentioning, there's definitely going to be more threads added, too, that I know of for sure, and there's going to be some clarifications of things that are sort of semi-threads at the moment. So we're not even, like, my point yet. There's still so much to know. Don't panic. Yes. There's still plenty of future ahead of you, Time Traveler, Rich. Which Time Traveler, before I get in trouble? Uh, Bunny is younger. Yes. I know we've had some discussion of Will Coffin's timeline. That's interesting. I always, always thought of her as older. How old- Really? I'm going to ask you some questions that I'm not actually going to answer. Thank you for now. How old do you think Sergeant Smith is? Bro- Bro- Bro- And now here's another question. In a world with magic, what exactly does age move? How old is sour thistle? Anyway, uh, I'm not going to get into too many of that specifically. I think I've just blown Jessica May's mind, so it's totally- Ha ha ha ha ha. That's gaping of my hair. So, physical appearance? Yes. Bunny and Will are about the same age, but Will is older. Okay. Okay. Okay. I was just saying to GRD that actually the relationship that Will and Bunny have kind of reminds me of the relationship between Blackhall and Mother Graham. I know there hasn't been a direct linkage made there, but- The clarification? Yeah. Yeah. There's a little something going on there. Yeah, and I mean, I don't want to give away too much about the future, but I will say that Rich is on the right track. Yeah, you're getting so much play around here, dude. Yeah, I'm feeling like you should be getting a jingle soon. Ha ha ha ha ha. I haven't actually seen Primeval. I've passed it on Netflix and now I'm interested enough that I will stop by and take it at some point. Mm, absolutely. Now, Jessica May, I know you do your best with sounds. Sometimes we have more times than others. I like the ambient, the sound that can last through a fairly good portion of the individual. Yes, you do have very specific sort of noises that you do like and don't. It has to be very specific of its feet, like you don't want to necessarily have. I don't like Ron Sands. It drives me nuts. It seems extraneous, I guess, to you. You don't like that? It's too upfront. It's like when they're fully walking in a film, they do it very subtly a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't want just as constantly- Well, are you saying that if I were to do it, it would be off? I'm sure you would do it brilliantly, I'm just saying in general. But yeah, we really like putting it in. But sometimes it is so late by the time it's like, "Okay, do we put up the episode or do we wait for sounds tomorrow?" But I'm getting kind of a backlog that you can reuse some sounds and it's not obvious. You can't necessarily go on. But yeah, having the sounds where it's just sort of like they're not at any time something happens, it's just sort of like this nice background, sort of it's giving you the atmosphere you need to enjoy the story further. On the flip side of that, I really enjoyed the meaty thud that you put into confidence. Yeah, it is a lot of fun, I have to say. If you can't find a public domain sound or something to make up your own using different types of sounds, and that is so much fun using different meat splatters, and I'm like, "What if this? What would this sound like?" And it was like a bucket or a bag of blood against a wall and you've got to get creative in it. It's, yeah, it's a lot of fun making something like that. Speaking of sounds you made, particularly jingle that I enjoy. Hello Flashcast crew and fellow mobsters. Through story, I had read the article about the Toronto Penguins, and had planned to send you a link in this submission. After reading the article, my first image was of a serious zookeeper having a sit down with the penguins, and explaining to him that it was a choice and they needed to reconsider theirs. It made me a little sad. A note to reach the time traveler, or time travel rich, whichever we decide on. I think coffin is a bit darker than Dresden. And Dresden doesn't have bunny, so there's that too. Regarding inspirations for suicide, I remember in the 80s, Aussie Osborn song, Suicide Solution, which is about alcoholism, was accused of causing teen suicides, utter stupidity. I have to wonder what the stats for suicides inspired by a young person reading Romeo and Juliet are. We should probably go after that Shakespeare guy. Aussie man ending to the latest murder plague. And by awesome, I of course mean another cliffhanger, looking forward to the next one. I usually try to end my submission on a light note, but I want to discuss a more serious topic that's been on my mind. There's plenty to be debated about the state of the world, but it should always take place with respect and never devolve into ad hominem attacks. Earlier in the week, one of our fellow mobsters was verbally attacked on her blog. She asked what to do about it, and following my first instinct, I told her to ignore the jerk, and remember that there are many of us who respect her and are glad to have made her acquaintance. I stand by the last part, but a decided ignoring assholes might not be the best strategy. There's a Twitter hashtag that's trending right now, men call me things. Some of the stories are truly sickening. I suppose I'm sensitive to this issue because my daughter is entering a traditionally male-oriented industry, and has already run into her fair share of jerks. It appears that the consensus is not to ignore, but rather to take a stand and let the offender know their comments are not appreciated. The analogy was made that the civil rights issues were not solved by people ignoring the people opposed to them. It's easy to say this, harder to actually make that stand. I would ask all in the mob to do their best to support our fellow humans when they are being attacked by the ignorant and evil. I apologize for making this a bully pulpit, but this has been bothering me all week and I wanted to plant this seed in our community. Take care. So a few years back, JRD was teaching me something called public shaming. You're not beating up the person verbally, but you're... If someone is doing something and they do it quite often, it's not enough sometimes to walk away, you have to tell them what they're doing is wrong. You need to inform them of this if they're harming people. And I know that it's important not to provoke somebody needlessly or just use words just to harm them, but if there is a time to take a stand and Dan Savage was saying on his low cast that with people who quite often do public masturbation and things like that, they never stop unless, and most people try to ignore them, they're like grossed out, but the one thing you can do to stop them in the tracks to never have them do it again is to point at them and say like what you're doing is wrong and they're completely thrown away from them. I'll put that. Yeah, like if somebody is a jerk constantly and they just don't know, they're ignorant just because they're ignorant of it doesn't mean that you can give them a pass, you know? Or rather they're expecting you to ignore them and to be able to get away with it. Because they've had a history of doing that because it's easier, but... So you tell them hey, you know what, you can go jerk face, yeah. My feeling is that you're never going to want to fight on the internet, but at the same time if you don't take a stand at some point, they're just going to keep pushing further along. There is a moment, you know, like when somebody is constantly coming at you, you know, when you're not seeking it out yourself. And frankly, there's something to be said for feeling like you're alone and being picked on and then having a number of people show up and propose their support. Even if you're not able to directly swat the troll, you can at least show that there's a lot more people who care as opposed to being jerk. Anyway, we would love your fellow man, too. Yeah. Well, great call around. It has been bothering us. Yeah. It has been bothering us like, too. We've been discussing it at home quite a lot, so I'm glad it was affecting others. I loved your comparison between Romeo and Juliet and the Judas Priest sort of. Absolutely. Yeah. There's always going to be nutters who are going to do nutty things and blame it on something. Yes. The truth is there's always going to be a spectrum in culture and the people who are prone to violence are going to glom on to a certain section of that culture. And it's unfortunate if it's movies or comic books or video games or rock music or whatever it happens to be. People are inspired by what they see. And if you're a nutter, you know, like... But I'm on the flip side of that. It's been my experience every time I've encountered somebody who is a hardcore metalhead. And for some reason, I think we might have mentioned this before. Most of the hardcore metalheads I've met have been the nicest people, presenting maybe a gruff exterior as a sort of defense. It was nice that you got to share it to the penguins there, too, though, isn't it? Mm-hmm. Yeah. We've... It seems everybody's been also affected by the penguins. Yeah. I loved your mental emotions. Yeah. Being like, okay, listen here. What you don't understand is, you know... It's choice. Yeah. Oh. You'd really like it better this way. You know. We know better. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Are you a dassie? Oh, I recorded a song today. It was not my own. It is not original. I basically just like ran away and recorded it. I wanted to be super simple. It wasn't, but I kicked it out. And I think it's pretty good. Mm-hmm. Frankly, it was so close to before we recorded this that you put it up that I haven't even had a chance to also do it. Mostly because you won't allow us to listen to a song and you record. Oh, my God. They tried to do it with the last one. I'm like, what are you doing to me? And I ran so fast over the room. No, I don't know what it is, and I do not want to be that guy, the weirdo. But I can't listen to myself recorded, especially if I haven't heard somebody tell me it's okay to listen to it in front of them. Yeah, it was great to hear your cover of the suburbs on Nettie's What's Off Your Off Your Off Your Off Your Off. Yeah, I haven't even thanked her, but I'm just so like, oh my God, and pink in the cheeks that I can't even like, I know, and I am. Thank you. Thank you, Nettie. It was super, super nice of you. And we were thinking of Tekk on a number instead. Mm-hmm, absolutely. Yeah. For realsies. I never raised you. So speaking of kicking out things, I kicked out the new Skinnaker comic. It looks so great, and you're almost done the next one as well, right? So, yeah, should we backtrack this and talk premise, or have we discussed the comic before on the show? Um, I'm not really sure. We did mention the comic quite a while ago. Yeah. I want to describe Skinnaker. Anybody familiar with my Skinnaker tweets? Memos. My Memos to Skinnaker on Facebook or on Twitter. Between the various departments. Essentially, a Pope has been illustrating them. So what's the proposed schedule here every Monday? Comic fun. Yeah, well, we'll see. It gives you a little weekend time to finish stuff, and- Yeah, Monday would be good. There's obviously a gap in comic-free for Monday comic, because Garfield hates Mondays, so he's always that his worst on Mondays. Okay. I'm going to take that cat's ass. So there's an opening. Yeah. But it's cool. Like, you just go through Twitter and pick your favorite of the week. Is that what you do? The Facebook page. Yeah. 'Cause that is just pure condensed giving code. Yeah, absolutely. And there's so many of them already that I can just have my pick. And we're actually- we're doing that around home now, too, right? Because the kids say the darned is things. And so a Pope is going to comic-five them. Yeah, we have a notebook, a sort of a family history. Yeah, Skinner Co. family division. Tell them what Mr. Three said today to you. You're like, did you hear that about what you guys were going to do later on when he was bigger? Remember that conversation? Oh, geez. So Mr. Three is convinced that he's decided he's going to be a firefighter. Yeah. He just randomly said it in the van one day. I'm going to be a firefighter. Okay. But he wants me to be a firefighter with him. All right. I suppose just to make sure things are cool. Yeah. And- But I had a conversation with him about how that would have to be out. I was essentially barred from being a firefighter. Because I said he's, you know, too financially responsible for so many people that he couldn't really do with the risk, unless- Essentially what you're saying, a Skinner Co can't afford for me to die. That's right. But I couldn't take away Mr. Three's lifelong dreams. Enthusiasm. So if he wanted to do that and then maybe if daddy wanted to, then he would have to agree to keep you safe. Yeah. So he's going to keep me safe. So he remembered that entirely and told you that today. Yeah. That was a discussion from a while ago. He's like, wait for me. I'll get bigger. Yeah. He couldn't fit into a shirt. When I fit into the shirt, we'll be firefighters together and I'll keep you safe. Yeah. It's not sweet from a three-year-old. That's super sweet. Oh, his brain is so big. That's why he needs big hats. Yeah. You can't get more. Just like daddy. Backroom plots. So we've got some enthusiasm out of the recent murder plague couple of the recent murder plague duo. You know, it's funny because I remember when GRD first announced to me that the murder plague was going to end up as a two-parter instead of just a one-parter. And he sort of immediately followed that up by saying, but you know what? I've got a mall again. I've got a mall again coming up and it's a three-parter because he knows how much I love mall again. Yeah. So he was all, don't worry about the murder plague. I'm going to put up a mall again. So we do have a mall again. And immediately she was like, I know what you're doing. Yeah. So we tried to pull that with you, Mr. But it worked. It did. I know. We do have a mall again. We do have a mall again. We do have a mall again. We do have a mall again coming up. That's potentially controversial, you think. Uh, yes. It may be. Mayhaps. As I've mentioned before, I constantly try to push myself a little bit, maybe in uncomfortable territories with the podcast. And this one is definitely going to be, this is my comfortable territory. So hold on to your pants. Keep your pants up. And if you can't deal with the, yeah, anyway, if you can't deal with the mall again three parter, come back for 222 and we'll return to the murder plague. Yeah. Yay. Pretty much immediately. She doesn't want to do harm. That's essentially what I brought down to you. It's funny because Jamie was just talking about how she can't stand hearing herself recorded. And I don't mind listening to many of the flashpaults, but I can't stand listening to myself do harm Carter because, uh, it just drives me crazy. It's the hardest one to do and it makes me so uncomfortable hearing me do it. So yeah, murder plague coming up. See, I don't even understand with me because it's like, I, I can hear myself play back. It's fine. But then hearing knowing that you're listening to it, your, your anxiety is about other people's reactions. It has nothing to do with your actual music. Like I start when I start like recording, I immediately erase it right after a race of a race to race it. So I end up like seeing it like 20 times for it gets out and it's not as good as I want it to, but it's because I'm just so paranoid. Like I hear it way worse than it is. So tonight I just close my eyes and I'm like, don't wig out. Just listen to it and relax your slacks. Anyways, sorry, I was just thinking about the nuances of my fear. Uh, now the, I did want to mention a couple of sort of, uh, back room, back room plot items. Okay. Back, back room plots. Yeah. The attic of the back room. Something I ran into recently with a mulligan episode. Okay. Are you aware that there is controversy in the writing world about Taser versus Taser in the sense that you can Taser with a Z if you're using the copyright product, known as Taser. Okay. But if you want to say you are Taser reading somebody, but you don't want to necessarily invoke the specific device made by TaserCo, then you should use an S as an avoiding sort of technique. Now it's interesting because it's almost like writing Kleenex with an I or something to avoid writing Kleenex the copyright. Chew that. Well? Yeah. Anyway, that was something I ran across because I wasn't sure how to approach it and the advice is essentially avoid the copyrighted item as much as possible because you want to go with more generic. You've had such a good influence on my writing and status messages and emails like with grammar because you'll take a while to make sure it's perfect and you'll look up things that you're not sure of. Oh, I'm here first and foremost to educate. Uh, speaking of education, the other item I thought was interesting. You got to be really careful with your research, especially when you're writing these sorts of stories. And I try to be like, sometimes it's difficult, especially when I'm writing coffee or some of the more extreme mulligan stuff to come from some sort of experience. Uh huh. I mean, a lot of black all is grounded in my youth and wandering around in the woods. There's usually some negative something I'm semi familiar with, although sometimes I just have to do a bunch of research and hope for the best, um, but private, detective, shaman. Yeah. It's a little stretch, you think? Well, here, for example, the reason that I like to do a little more in depth research or really what I like to do is read people's biographies or pieces by people in the fields that I'm reading about, okay, so that I can understand what that's actually, yeah, and the tone of it, because for example, if you do a Wikipedia kind of research or you're doing Google research, go, go, no, go Google right now. If you're sitting at your computer, Google teenagers room, teenager apostrophe S room and do an image search for it and you will get a huge rundown of hundreds of rooms that look nothing like a teenager's actual room. You will see a perfect IKEA set up bedroom set. You will see designer rooms. You will see every room is perfectly clean. Every room is crisp. Every bed is folded. There are no crap on the walls or on the floor. There's nothing like an actual teenager's room, and that's exactly the danger of trying to just Wikipedia something and hoping for the best. Anyway, sort of an odd thought, but on that note, let's roll out with a big thanks to Jim. Thanks, Jim. Thanks for hosting wiki.flashpump.com. I was always. You can hopefully see some new superstitions very soon, and also hosting flashpump.com, doing a great job of wrangling the wiki, although folks will be doing it. Yeah, he was wondering what we were whispering last episode at the end. And it was "pump". What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah, you can find everything Jim does over at relicradio.com or you can also look at his blog. He does fantastic, some of his sporadic blogging but blog.com. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, you can find us at flashpump.com. Call our voicemail line at 206-338-2792 or email us text or mp3s2-contents@flashpump.com. Jessica May has vocal talents and musical styles. Can we find it? Maytunes.com. Apparently they can. The entire run of flashpump can be found at flashpump.com or via the search bar and iTunes. 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