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[Music] Hello and welcome to Flashcast38. Prepare yourself for horror movies, giant turtles, cruise ship mysteries, troll hunter, and Thomas Blackhall. [Music] Tonight we have myself, oh poop-it-ax, whispered tellings. Jessica May, hello! Governance of the discord. Okay, and J- I'll accept it. J-R-D. Hello. Hello. Hi, J-R-D. Hack. [Laughs] So, you want to hear something interesting? He totally sold out. Yes, I do. I'm already interested. The most recent Nutty Bites episode just came out, but on the episode before the most recent episode, which I don't actually think came out all that long previous, anyhow. There is an episode of Nutty Bites. You. Nutty was mentioning that in the United States of America- I believe I've heard of this United States. Canada's pants, if you will. Okay. Our pantaloons, if you see it's kind of- Canada's trouser snake. [Laughs] Yeah, that's Florida. She mentioned that Smarties, a candy well known to the both of you, are actually incredibly different, and they're actually a lot like sweethearts, only not tart, and they come wrapped into tube. What? Apparently they look like tiny pills and they taste very good. What? Like rockets. I will pay for the shipping. I would like to taste this. Yeah, somebody send us some- Now- Some not smarty Smarties. To clarify for our American listeners, or even possibly our British, I don't know what they have over in the UK. That's so cool. Smarties here are essentially an M&M ripoff that tastes like- No, the coating, the candy coating is thicker. No, it's thinner. And it's thinner. It's thicker and thinner. I mean there's less chocolate. The whole candy tastes like post-processed plastic that's just been recycled into swallowable pellets. No, no. It's a terrible- It's a terrible- It's a terrible- But Smarties I don't really think- I love M&M. Smarties are garbage. They're like really vibrant, really vibrant colors, and they're really thin and- I really like the flavor of vibrant colors. I've had a long-standing- You would. (laughs) The theory that the entire Smartie Corporation was only being propped up by the Canadian government as one of the few non-American candies that we had, but now I believe this whole thing may be a lie. Don't you? Actually, you know what? Why do we have different Smarties? You remember the old Smartie commercials that were like, "When you eat just more, you do. You eat the red one last." I recall the ad campaign. There were so many commercials. There's like robots and stuff. That's all I remember. Just the robots. I don't remember. Do they have different- I remember the robots, guys. The red robot. Do they have different red Smarties in the States? I don't get it. Mm. ♪ I don't know. ♪ ♪ I don't know. ♪ So we had a little bit of illness. This episode is a wee bit late. A little bit of plague. And you know, it's gone around to many people. It's gone outside of the house to other family members. And yeah, it's a doozy. It's like, there's a big sore throat that lasts for like a week. The fatigue is just so- like, I couldn't even lift my arms to do stuff. It was so annoying. Definitely the sort of thing where at the end of it, you have a different fit in your pants. And you have a new appreciation for being healthy. It's one of those things that we are really lucky that it didn't happen all at once to everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone was able to take care of each other. Yeah. They did put a bit of a crimp in our October 31 schedule, unfortunately. I put a crimp in everything. Well, it was certainly one of those illnesses where, you know, generally you get a cold, you get a little whatever, you lie on the couch, you watch a film, it's not a big deal. But this is one of those things you couldn't focus on anything, you couldn't watch anything. Days is being laid up in bed or watched the wall. Yeah. But we even missed out on a nutty visit. We were going to feed nutty eyes so excited, but we couldn't do it. We couldn't expose her to the plague. So I apologize if we sound a little throaty. I am feeling a little elephant man still, unfortunately. That plus all the tumors. Oh. That's your me. Didn't he have a lot of tumors? Yeah. Well, yeah. We did get some movies watched, however. Not the elephant man. My favorite of the bunch by far was the one recommended by Nick and sort of the assigned homework for the mob. Troll Hunter. Troll Hunter. No, this is going to be a bit of a tricky topic because I feel like this is a film especially that works best. If you don't know too much about it going in. I was really pleasantly surprised. I have to admit, I've never you know. I was fresh in some ways. Yeah. I enjoyed. Well, here's the thing. I enjoyed paranormal activity, but it was still in the same vein of Blair Witch Project where it was doing a found footage film with a fairly small budget. And I'm not saying that the budget that Troll Hunter had was huge. You shouldn't go in expecting maybe a like Hollywood blockbuster or whatever. But at the same time, it was so much beyond what you end up seeing in something like paranormal activity that it really impressed me. So I don't want to, for anybody who hasn't seen it, I don't want to give too much away. We'll sort of dance around a bit during our discussion, but it's, the editing was really really good. Yeah. The whole thing was absolutely worth the, worth the watch. For real. Part of what really made it for me was Hans, the main fellow. The Hunter? Yeah. Yeah. I carried that film. Like the, the, the premise is that there's three documentarians following this fellow around. It is a supposed Troll Hunter. Yeah. Although that may be, well, you're not spoiling too much though, I don't think. But I like the explosions. Yeah. Yeah. Hans carried it. And there was a bit of discussion in the mob about the issue of dub versus sub. Like having a dubbed over version versus a subtitled version. And I do have to admit we went with the dub, but I was sure to watch a bunch of clips with the, it's not the same thing as seeing the Norwegian in action. But at the same time, it's one of those films and I have to agree with, I think it was Rob and the mob. Was that right? Jessica May? I don't know. Who was saying that I really like to see a film subtitled. That is my preference. I like to get as much as possible out of it, both audio track wise and because often some titles, or the dubbing process loses a lot of the meaning of the original film. But at the same time, when it's something as fast moving as this film was, I want to be able to keep track of what's going on. And if I'm reading titles at the bottom, I'm missing things. Yes. I thought they did a pretty good job. A lot of the voice actors did a good job, but it really like was, if one of the actors did a really crappy job, it completely took you out of the scene. Well, I have to admit, my annoyance with the dubbing was that it was presented as if they were all just standing in a room, reading into mics, as opposed to having any sort of depth from the camera. Yeah. Yeah. Wilderness. Yeah. Like they were all just standing around. It annoyed me at first because it wasn't trying to place the audio in its environment. It was just a reading over top of whatever. But it ended up reminding me of when you watch like a Discovery Channel show that stubbed over from before a nation, this is exactly what it ends up sounding like. Like if you were to see an actual documentary about troll hunting from Norway, that was what it would have sounded like when you watched it on Discovery on a Sunday afternoon. But that kind of makes it cool. Yeah. Well, that's what added it added in the end. But at first it is. The realism. Yeah. I got to say I'm a much bigger fan of the subtitles though. Yeah. Well, I am definitely a larger fan of the subtitles. I would have rather, but it was a bit of a rush situation so. You know what we should think about adding to your October 31. There was that movie that recently came out, the American let the right one in? Oh yeah. We haven't seen the American version of let the right one in yet. Yeah. We should see the American one, but we had actually seen the original one, which was that also Norwegian? It was some kind of Scandinavian language. I can't recall right now. But we actually watched that with subtitles, if I recall correctly. Yeah. Absolutely. And that one was really good. And it was pretty creepy in and of itself too, but it wasn't as fast paced as this one. So I totally understand how, you know, some would be lost in this one. Swedish. Yes. Swedish. There you go. Yeah. And it was definitely more of a slow build. So you had an opportunity to read about what was going on. It's just the premise of a found footage film is so fast moving in a lot of places and it's kind of confusing in its own nature. You know what I mean? Like there's a lot of fast camera movements and maybe you just catch a glimpse of something or whatever. So it's not something I want to be reading through necessarily unless I have time to do so. But unfortunately, when you have 31 films to make it through in a month. Just enough days. I did like the way they, and this is another one that hopefully won't be giving too much away about the film, scattered folklore Norwegian folklore throughout the film. That was fantastic. The little references to, oh, I don't want to say too much Christian blood and whatever. There's a bunch of little things that were obviously local folklore that I, some I knew about, some I didn't. There was a lot of great stuff in there. And I did like the way they slipped in some social commentary as well. That was kind of funny. It's a watcher. Yeah. Definitely. Thanks a lot for the recommendation Nick. Nice. Yeah. Cool. Now we'll just quickly touch on a few other films we watched. We are actually a few movies behind as you'll see by the end of this list. But that's always what happens with the October 31. This isn't necessarily a goal that I hit every year. In fact, I don't think I've done so since essentially the first year that I've done this. The point is more to just enjoy it and get through as many horror movies as possible and show it as time as possible. Well, that's what he's learned to do because a few after the first 31 that he successfully got to, he just was so stressed about and he's like, we're behind two movies, we're behind two and a half movies, we're behind three movies. If we watched two on Sunday and you would get like really, you know, obsessed about it. Yeah. Yeah. Can I do the rundown for Life Force? Yeah, go for it. That's the one that Scott Johnson did on a film sec? Film sec. Yes. I didn't know that when I actually picked it off Netflix the other day, but my rundown of that one, Aliens, meets 70s porn movie. Yeah. That's Life Force, Space Vampires. There was a lot of imagery, a lot of, yeah, yeah, like you were in tunnels and tubes. And shots of boobies. Boobs. Boobs. A lot of, you know, subtle imagery boobs. There was a character, did they even show a boy bum? Or was it just lady boob, lady boobies? No, you know what? That was true. Yeah, it wasn't very. Although there were a few nude males running around, they showed very little. Well, there was two males, but you hardly saw those guys, but there was a lot of boob. Yeah, there was a lady whose like character was naked for most of the film. Yeah. Space Vampires. Just in case anybody's wondering what the premise is, that's as far as you really need to know. Yeah. I did enjoy it though. It had a good budget and it was of a period where I hadn't seen the film, even though it was Toby Hooper's, I believe it was the second film, right after Texas chance I'm asking. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but I know it was early in that period. And he was trying to do something a little different. And it was interesting. It was different. It was different. I thought it was really neat how you would find, you know, a bunch of carnage and dead bodies and things wrong, like obviously wrong, but then you would see like these pristine people and you're like, "How the heck did they get here?" And you know, being ignorant humans are like, "I'm going to save these people." And then they take them on their ship, but they're like these terrible, horrible things who did all of the carnage. And I think the greatest, the greatest thing to point out is that they bring these things back to Earth and Earth is still like, when was the movie made in the 80s or something? Earth is still like 80s London, you know, but they're like coming back from spaceships. It's great. I kind of like that. It's like an... Well, it was a NASA ESA project. You know what? I'm going to give applause to any film that has the gumption to level an entire city by the end of the movie. That's right. That's pretty wicked. Any film that's willing to undertake an apocalypse, even if it doesn't necessarily do it well, at least deserves a little bit of... Something. Something, something. I like the body shriveling. And then... Well, that was my man, and then coming back alive, but they were still all shriveled. I thought that was amazing, like it being... It looked good. Yeah. Like, it was robotic, was it not? It was like a bomb. Yeah. It was obviously puppetry or something. But it did. It did well. Good. Mm-hmm. Well, that was my problem with the film. The film parts where the premise holds really solidly, like, they've at least got an internal logic to the film that holds together. Yes. But then there are sections that feel like they just do things because that's how it should be to get the lady back on the screen to have her boobie. And here's your boobie. Yeah. Yeah. Take us what? Some boobies. Boobies. At every turn that they mention, the male companions, it's like, "Don't worry about him. We've just got to deal with her." Yeah. Oh, we slaughtered those guys. It's her, right? Yeah. Yeah. They kill one off screen. Barely even mention it. Yeah. They're like, "Oh, yeah. Don't worry about that guy." He tripped over a rock. It was horrific. He cried for hours. It wouldn't shut up. I just ended up hitting him with a shuffle. We also tried to watch the blob on Netflix. Oh, that was so disappointing. Well, you tried to watch the new blob. Well, the new 80s blob, 85, I believe. Yeah. I haven't actually seen that one. The only blob I've seen has been the Steve McQueen blob, which was '50s, wasn't it? Yes. And so on Netflix, it's advertised that it's the 80s blob. And in fact, if you turn it on and fast-forward through it, you can watch the movie and fast-forward. But if you try to play it, it plays the '50s version. Yes. Which is bizarre. And I own the '50s version. Anyway. It's a great film. But I wanted to see the '80s version. Yeah. Charity's like, "How do we complain about this for something you get?" Yeah. What did we say? There's not an... I couldn't find anything in Netflix's interface to try to report. Obviously, the problem's been going on for a while. This isn't the first time we've tried to watch it and had this issue. Well, I don't think so. But I thought somebody would have reported it by now, but at the same time, I couldn't find a way to do so. So maybe there's just no information getting back to Netflix that they've got the wrong film. Can you bitch about them on Twitter? Yeah. Maybe Netflix is tired of all the complaints it's already getting. Well, apparently it's not going to do the quickster thing. Yeah. Well, there you go. We also watched isolation. We got to move this along though. If we take 10 minutes for every film, we're not going to get through. It was really good though. These movies are good. You should watch them. Isolation was a great film. Another one of those things where we don't want to give too much away. The premise centers around cows. And at first, I thought I wasn't going to be able to get into it because there's something about cows, cattle that you can't quite take seriously in a horror film. And at every moment, for some reason, even though they treat the cattle very realistically, it's very much just a naturalistic farm. I kept expecting some sort of black sheep-esque like breakout, just like goof on what was going to happen. Which obviously didn't. It was a straight-faced horror film all the way through, but. But they were essentially incubating science- Don't give it away. Right? Yeah. But that's not too much, right? No, no, that's not too much. It was totally creepy. I was completely creeped out. Oh, especially when they opened them up and they just kept coming and coming out. Less quality? Oh. Wicked Wicked. That's the start of and then just nodded off for something. Didn't hold my attention. Plus, you're pretty lazy. Yeah. I'm so lazy. Seventy's film shot. The only interesting thing about the film is that it's shot in something called duo-vision, which is really just split-screen. But it's essentially two movies running side-by-side throughout. And it's not that they would make sense if you were to take- Are they interconnected at any point? No, you know. It's not just like- And then one jumps to the other screen. Yeah, no. It's not Superman 3 on one side and like Tomb Raider on the other. It's the same film, but I mean you might see from the killer on the right and from the victim on the left or, you know. How innovative. The door that's going to be gone through by character and panel A and panel B anyway. It was interesting in that it maintained the split-screen through the whole thing, but the film itself was just cheese-mo. I did not- It was one of those films where it's kind of hard to tell if it's supposed to be part. Like if they thought it was funny or maybe halfway through filming, they realized what they were making and they started goofing around a little more. Yeah. They gave in a little bit to what they were. Yeah. But I guess you don't want to miss too much on one side. Well, that was the other thing is that to fill time, one side was often just moving painfully slow. Like nothing would be happening. Somebody would be taking a knife out of a sheath for like two minutes. For like an old lady who would be just sitting there playing the piano. Oh yeah, the organ scene. That was so- Anyway. This guy put on his shoes but then changed his mind so then he took a mile off and then put on the other hand and released them. I'm just saying that this film would have had a hard time filling 130 minutes of film as it was and it didn't need to be trying to run two movies at once. Yeah. So don't watch that one. Okay. It, the Terror from Beyond Space. Yeah, that was pretty fun actually. Yeah. More space vampires. I really did. We watched that on TCM. That was a classic film. Yep. Yeah. And it was recommended by John Carpenter. Yeah. Mm-hmm. One of the ones that scared him. Mm-hmm. As a youth. Yeah. Absolutely. As a youth. Not now. Yeah. I don't think it would scare anybody today. Not even the youth of today. But it was a fun little film. And it definitely felt like Alien took a lot from this film, which is weird. Yes. Which is what, yeah. He had mentioned so. Yeah. He mentioned it up front. But it definitely felt the creeping sort of moving along in the ship and closing in and closing in. It's here with us. And we can't go anywhere. A dark tin can with. Yeah. Yeah. There was discrepancies with the power of the creature. The size. Yes. There's discrepancies with the creature's rubber suit. Yes. But a lot of the tension and suspense was brought about from the interaction between the crew. Yeah. That was great. I didn't like the main guy. Yeah. There was one buff hard chunk main character who was ridiculous, but. I just wanted that dude to die. But everybody else, you know, was really individual and their interactions were awesome. And with grenades, they were like 18 million grenades on one door. Yeah. For some reason, they would just string nine or ten grenades across a grate. It's like, yeah. Like some tuss in on it, putting some nades on it. Yeah. Like a four by four grate. And they're like, let's put a dozen grenades on it and hope it comes down here. Yeah. They would explode and it would just basically be a puff of smoke and it would just be like the great removed. But everything. With your classic 50s science fiction dinosaur roar for a alien sound. Ah. Yeah. Yeah. Man in large reptilian suit. Yeah. It was great. But you know, there was. And there was so much that works. There was definitely a lot to love. Do you know what else? Also a space vampire. I said that already. Space vampire aliens. Mm hmm. A lot of space vampires this time around. Also watched with Mr. 8, which was a family friendly one. The thing from another world, which is a classic, obviously the original for the thing, the remake by John Carpenter and the prequel film that we've talked about coming up based on a John Campbell story, I believe. And this is a fantastic film. It's a movie you can watch with a kid, but still really enjoy. The monster is another 50s kind of semi silly monster, but it all takes place in a, well, another little claustrophobic kind of arctic based situation and they're under attack. And it's a little less, obviously there's a lot less gritty than the new film, but there's a little more of this military versus science versus other guy, free thought thing going on with the factions in the camp in this one, but it was a good movie, always a good movie, kind of watch it every year because there's a limited selection we can watch with Mr. 8 without freaking them out. Oh, yeah. Also watched the half of, oddly we watched the half of the second and half of the third Hammer Dracula movie. We watched the second film, which has Peter Cushing but no Christopher Lee, The Brides of Dracula, I believe that one is, and then we watched the Return of Christopher Lee, what is that, Dracula Prince of Darkness? That's the one with Dracula's mom in it, right? Musably, no, no, that's not right at all. You may be thinking of the fourth Dracula film, here's the problem, all the Hammer Dracula movies run together just a little bit, I love them all, but they do run together a bit. My problem is not remembering which film corresponds with the name, you know, because they never really have great names for them. The Horde, The Tear of the Bride, The Lady, The Lust, The Lingerings, The Longing, The Nap of Dracula. It was a long, long nap. So we made it. It was daylight savings. Now that was one of those things where I was so sick I couldn't even make it all the way through the film, so we should finish those off, but yeah, yes, we have not completed those films. There's a lot of American gangster, and the A-Team with Mr. Aid, who loved her. I have never seen the A-Team before until now, and I laughed every time Mr. T opened his mouth. I love his character. I know. It's so fantastic. No, that's Mr. Team, man. Don't tell him what he's character. He's not acting. He is not acting. And who is that other one, the one that was the one there, you know, I'm such a Canadian man. And the one that dressed up, and he was the bug exterminator guy. Oh, faces? The pretty boy? Yeah. He was funny. That was great. You remember that guy? He's a mad buddy. You remember that guy? He's funny. I liked him. You know, his hair was, you have good hair. Yeah, they frequently use disguise. Yeah. That all new to me. And Mr. Aid would just be like, so was I. I loved it. We should just sit down and watch that as a family now. Now Georgia Papard, also Banachak, as I recall. And here's the thing. I don't know how many people are familiar with Banachak. It was one of those things I watched on A&E constantly as a child. Fantastic show. One of those classic, detective, ridiculous, cool guy doing ridiculous stuff. That's awesome. Yeah. That's another one we should open up. I'm trying to remember. What else would you throw in that bag? Sort of-- David Hasselhoff? No. More like the Colombo era. Cooljack. Oh, yeah. We just started watching that too. That's so cool. I love that. Oh, yeah. Cooljack's fantastic. Yeah. We watched-- the only one that I've seen was the one with Jack the Ripper. That was great. I totally got me in the mood to rip some people apart. No, to work on-- To open some flash. The flashpope project. It was so pulpy. Yeah, the 200. I've had some questions today about where that's gone. Yeah. Now, listen. I don't want people to think that we forget about 200. It's just sort of so I've stepped into a pocket universe temporarily. Having moved it out of our timeline allows us to work on it to utmost quality without having to-- Yeah, it really was a plan all along, everyone. Oh, yeah. This was totally what we had intended. Yeah. Anyway, next week we're going to watch Insidious. So that's sort of the assigned homework this time around if everybody wants to watch it beforehand with us. I have high hopes about this film. One of the mobsters, Matt Cohen, who-- oh, I hope I'm pronouncing his last name right. A published author, a friend of mine-- well, acquaintance at least. Oh, I've had him suggested as a friend on the Facebook. Oh, that's lovely. Insidious. Or wait till we watch it and then we'll tell you how it is. Well, we're still covering movie news. Just a quick note about Sean Levy or Sean Levi, I don't know how to pronounce that. His Frankenstein movie, which we've discussed recently, the new one coming up. Interestingly, it sounds like it's going to be films from Igor's perspective, which is doubly interesting because Igor isn't an actual character in the original story, but that's an odd position to take from Frankenstein's assistant? I don't know. How close to the Columbia version are they keeping if they're keeping Igor in? Anyway, paranormal activity three. I read that the third film is going to actually be set up as an origin story and it's going to take place in the '80s with a different family. Cool. Which seems like a-- Did we even watch the second one? We did. The garbage that he kind of forgot about it. It was the one with the house and the coverts are always opening in the kitchen. The baby. Essentially, the only thing that happens? Yeah, the cover. So I'm really hoping that they're going to do what they should have done with the second one, which is ramp this stuff up. Like the first paranormal activity I was willing to give past because the idea was that it was fairly low budget to begin with and I did have a couple good moments, especially in the re-edit or whatever at the end. I thought they threw a little bit of budget there. I did like the original ending, but I'm hoping that what they're going to do is throw some actual budget at this film and maybe we're going to get something a little closer like we were saying with Troll Hunter, where it's enough money that they can make something exciting and not just rely on old-school filmmaking tricks to make doors wave and people stand by the bed for hours at a time. A pope. I know you'll be excited by this little item. Have you heard about Dr. Sleep? No. Stephen King. Okay. Is releasing. Well, maybe you won't be excited about this because I know you don't read many of his horror films or his horror books, but I will be excited by this at least. Dr. Sleep, Stephen King is releasing a sequel to The Shining, which as I recall, the ending of that book is set up to allow for a sequel. It also most implies that there might be one. And this is coming from a reading years ago, like over a decade ago, easily. I've never read the book. The mother's possessed or something? How does it work? How does it go? No, the boy becomes increasingly psychic by the end of the book and then it sort of implies that he goes on to further adventure, et cetera, but it never really covered it. So I am interested to return to this and to see, here's the thing, I really feel like after Insomniac and this may be a little too inside baseball for some people, but I'm sorry. Insomniac. Sorry. Insomniac. Or I should say Insomniac, his writing style became really different. When he went into that sort of post-needful things retirement phase, something about his writing style changed and he lost some of the cleanliness of his earlier style, which isn't to say it was bad, it was just different. And I'm interested to see what happens when he returns to what I think of as old school material with his, I don't know, maybe he's sobered up in that time, something happened there. I know he had a drug problem for a long time, so maybe that's when he, yeah, maybe that's when he's sobered up. But whatever the case, I'm interested to see what happens when he returns to old material. Yeah, I'm pretty excited for when the kids come of age when I can read them Eyes of the Dragon. Yeah, that's a great film. A great book, I should say. And it's one of his most kid-friendly. I think I got this from possibly Jeff Lynch's Wall. I'm sorry, Jeff, if it was you and I'm just thieving this from you, but he has a bit of a reading that he's got up on YouTube and I'll post that up in the show notes. Final bit of book news, repairman Jack, beloved F. Paul Wilson series, home heart is coming to an end. Oh, yeah. It's coming to an end, but I believe has technically ended. Oh, really? I believe, if not, I believe the book is out or just about together. Oh, wow. I am two books behind and then there's like the young repairman Jack series that I haven't read yet either. And there's all of the Night World series that I haven't read, but he is revising, or it's the adversary cycle, he is revising part of that to accommodate the repairman Jack timeline, but I've been so preoccupied with a song of ice and fire and finishing that up that I just haven't, I've had to put repairman Jack on hold, but I'm sure once I'm done in Westeros, I will be right back there in New York with Jack. Now I have to admit, I haven't read the books, I have liked what you've told me about them, but the reason I really bring it up is because he posted a sort of essay about why he's ending the series, a very, actually an increasingly successful series, if nothing, it's just picking up steam now. Well, they're talking about a movie. But he's ending it because he feels like he doesn't want to overplay it, he's always had an arc in mind, and this is just when it ends, and I have a lot of respect for a guy who has not just the creative gumption to do that, but the financial, you know. Well, I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but did you know that F. Paul Wilson is actually a doctor on the side? That's ridiculous. Is that a lie? On the side, how can you just be a doctor on the side? Couple days a week. I'm a buck of Ruben's eye, just sort of do the rock star thing, and then some neurosurgery, and then, you know, I think it's fantastic isn't it? Okay, last popular press item, because I believe we're running a little long. Amy, in the mob, has suggested our first book club book, Bimbos of the Death Sun. Wow. So we're going to go six episodes from now. We're going to discuss this again in Flashcast 45, and now I realize that seems like a bit of a long time. The book doesn't seem that hefty, and I don't think we're going to have trouble getting through it at all, but I want time for people to dig through their used bookstores or whatever they've got to do to find these things. And I don't want this, if we're going to do a semi-regular book club feature, it's going to be over large periods of time, and I don't really want it to be full of pressure for people to finish books. Okay, and there's one other requirement that I am putting my foot down on now. If you want to suggest something to the mob, I want to know why. Why we should read that book. Bimbos of the Death Sun? I can tell you why to read Bimbos of the Death Sun, but I kind of- Because it's called Bimbos of the Death Sun? So, again, like Troll Hunter, it's something that's almost better left to just be discovered on the fly, but I will tell you that the title may be a little bit deceptive. Okay. "Freshfish, a new batch of cinematic pulp with the always-listening, three-day fish." Hey, Flashcast. I have a bit of a confession to make. There were some pulpy movies that came out this weekend, but I did not see them. So, we're just going to do a retro review. Any of you out there like, "Man, do I like Godzilla movies?" But I hate how just everyone likes Godzilla. If only there was another monster that was like Godzilla, but wasn't Godzilla. Well, then I have the movie for you. The movie is called Gamara-a-bom-bom-bom. Gamara-g-a-m-e-r-a, if you go and look that up, is about an ancient monster turtle that was awoken somewhere in the Arctic or Antarctic. I'm not real sure the movie-well, actually, it's the Antarctic because there's a- then their Eskimos. So, he's awoken because a couple of jets get shot down and they were containing nuclear radiation and they crashed and melted Gamara's icy holding cell and Gamara feeds on energy. Bom-bom-bom-bom, particularly, he likes fire. He will eat fire. So he awakens and thrashes about the Antarctic, destroying toy boats, I mean, Japanese naval vessels, and pretty much has his way. It's very much in the Godzilla style. The whole world has to unite and use the most advanced technology to try and bring it down. And several attempts fail before they finally succeed. If you want to see this movie and you have the Netflix, you have the added bonus of watching it with the Mystery Science Theater 3000 crew. All in all, the movie itself probably deserves a red light just because it is a bad story. But, if you're watching Gamara, you're watching it because you know what it's about. So of course, I have to give it a green light, yeah, cheesy old monster flick that isn't Godzilla. Yeah. I will say this, my favorite part in the whole movie, there's this scene where they knock Gamara on his back and it's like, "Oh no, the two are to fill on his back, he is now powerless. Ah, we're clever than Gamara there, yeah." Well it turns out Gamara somewhere in his shell has rockets or something because he goes inside his shell and then suddenly starts spinning like some kind of crazy firecracker and flies off into the sky and then the whole world thinks he's a UFO and then he lands in Japan and goes Godzilla on everybody. And if I may, I've been thinking a while on J.R.D.'s Canundrum of featuring more popy literature because we do tend to focus on the film. It's a sci-fi book called "The House of the Scorpion" written by Nancy Farmer. Now technically this book is written for like fifth graders and has that sort of vocabulary but the themes within the book are actually a fairly adult so it reads easy but doesn't give you any sort of let down as far as a lot. It's a very good story, it's about a clone who lives in a compound with a drug lord in the far-flung future and it's a future where basically Mexico and the southern United States have become a country where there are like maybe like less than ten drug lords just ruling the whole area and growing drugs and they are doing this because the recent agreement with Mexico and the U.S. where if they controlled the immigrants running to Mexico into the U.S. or the other way around then they could keep the land. And what they end up doing is putting computer chips in these immigrants' brains to make them what the book calls ejets which if anyone doesn't know is actually an Irish term referring to someone who's very idiotic. If you want to call someone an idiot but be harsh you call them an ejet. So anyway so that's a big part of the story and then Matt is a clone of the most powerful drug lord who is known as El Patron which is the boss in Spanish and he's trying to figure out why people seem to treat him so badly except for of course his very closest friends and El Patron himself and why it's so bad to be a clone because apparently everyone views clones as second class. It's the truth I don't know you better read it hope the fans may be investigated because it actually is a really good story I've read it several times can't stop reading it. So yeah that's all today always listening. Fantastic recommendations fish we'll get the gamer in a second but I have to admit I was about to be like oh fifth grader I think the kids can probably manage that they're very advanced probably read right through this bad boy and then the mexican drug lord part started up and yes some adult themes does sound fantastic though so I'll definitely keep an eye out for that I have to also say I'm oddly familiar with the gamer franchise yes our kids are a fan of gamer another other giant monsters that are not Godzilla mhmm Mothra road game the camera follows the same sort of character arc as Godzilla actually where he starts off as the villain in the first film and by the second or third film he's definitely the hero he is loved by our children that's right there's little Timmy or whatever yep Timmy little kid's name is yeah and fish is absolutely right that his rocket take off is I love cameras rockets I wish I had a rocket turtles so bad nicely done nicely done yes thank you very much sir as always I will point people towards his Facebook page three day fish like them like we do now I believe it would be a good opportunity for a spot of bother on the evening of April 6th this year John Halford packed his suitcase and left it outside the door of his cabin on the cruise liner Thompson spirit it was the last day of a week long Egyptian cruise and the ship was due to dock at charm el chic the following morning mr Halford 63 texted his wife Ruth who was at home in Britain to say he would see her at the airport the next day then went off to dinner at about 12 30 a.m. he was seen by other passengers drinking cocktails in an upper deck bar he then vanished today more than five months on mr. Halford a bookseller from Milton Keynes bucking him sure remains missing his fate unknown a search of the sea was carried out at the time but nothing was found his case is far from unique over the past few years there have been an alarming number of unexplained and unsolved disappearances aboard cruise liners according to the US based international cruise victims association 165 people have gone missing at sea since 1995 at least 13 this year alone many of them from vessels popular with british holiday makers are they the victim of a sinister crime wave have they had a mishap at sea and fallen overboard or perhaps chosen to take their own lives but is the idea of someone slipping overboard credible the rails on cruise sheds are at least three feet six inches high which makes it incredibly difficult for anyone even someone who might be drunk or ill to pitch overboard 24 year old Rebecca Coriam went missing from a Disney cruise liner in march this year mrs. Coriam from Chester vanished as the Disney Wonder was on passage from Mexico to Los Angeles a single policeman in the Bahamas where the ship is registered is investigating her disappearance her disappearance echoes another mysterious case that has been barely reported in this country that of a 62 year old German identified only as Sabine L who vanished from kunard's prestige liner the QE2 in 2007 as it sailed off Madira Sabine and her husband Ludwig boarded the ship at Southampton on December 17 2006 for a two week cruise to the canaries and Madira when night the pair went to bed at about midnight in room 5167 the next morning when Ludwig woke his wife was not in the cabin she was never seen again just this week there was precisely such an incident passengers lined the decks as the Balmoral made its way up south Hampton water on Tuesday morning following an eight-day tour of Norway's fjords Francis Hemsley 89 of Walton on Tim's Surrey had last been seen at dinner at 9 p.m. on Sunday some time between then and the next morning as the ship headed south along Britain's east coast he vanished a subsequent police investigation established that in this instance there was a note left in mr. Hemsley's cabin although they will not reveal what it said mr. Hemsley appears to have decided that he wished to die and wanted to spend his final days amid the serenity of the Norwegian fjords certainly the fate of a 50 year old woman who was a passenger on board the sea princess as it cruised the Caribbean last December between Morocco and Grand Turk Islands gives credence to the suicide at sea theory CCTV footage shows the unnamed woman who was on holiday with her husband climbing over her cabin balcony in the early hours and falling into the sea her body has not been found but at least the woman's family know that she chose to take her own life and that she's gone for John Halford and Rebecca Coriam's families however and scores of other people around the world there is no such a resolution mr. Halford remains missing as does Rebecca Coriam and countless others in conclusion we can say this most of these people disappeared on black nights far out at sea precisely what happened to them all are mysteries that look unlikely never to be solved the complete unedited text of this story which includes numerous other accounts may be found at the mail online or by following the link provided at bothersomethings.com I'm Jeffrey Lynch and that's this week's spot of bother okay so yet another reason why cruise ships terrify me yeah that makes me that makes me afraid Jeff but that's really nothing new when you talk to me yeah everything you say makes me afraid Jeff but that's okay yeah you do a good job it's what we asked for and it's what you provide I do hmm I have to wonder I think it's probably a split between the factors he mentions I do you think there's a certain amount of drunks going over yeah you think there's a certain amount of people riding out the last days of their life thinking in the fjords yeah that was crazy I want to live amongst the fjords well die amongst the fjords yeah I guess I'm fiddly bits well done Jeff always you can find more of his brilliant work at bothersomethings.com or follow him on the the tweeter please lynch me then he's also on the Facebook sometimes swings by the mob although he's pretty busy guy these days so we definitely appreciate him taking the time to submit these bothersome spots hmm hey you know who else took the time berry hi I'm Barry and this is your New York minute and I didn't write a script this week so go using on me as I record this it's October 1st and if you're anything like me that means one thing it's Halloween the counter says October 1st it's Halloween doesn't matter what day Halloween falls on it's Halloween the whole month of October and that brings me to the subject of your New York minute this week I want to focus on HP Lovecraft and he is arguably one of America's most influential horror writers he's not necessarily the best or the most influential but he's up there he is right way up there well if you know HP Lovecraft you know that he was heavily influenced by his childhood he grew up in New England in Providence and he is pretty much a product of the New England patriarchal very kind of stuffy class system so why am I talking about him in a New York minute well at some point he got married to a woman that his family considered beneath him and for a period of years HP Lovecraft lived in Brooklyn and one of his stories you might have read it called The Horror at Red Hook is based on his time living in Brooklyn he did not like New York he is it's put it nicely if you read any of his works you probably know that HP Lovecraft was a bit of a racist he just didn't like anyone who wasn't white upper class New England and he had some strange theories he wasn't your garden variety racist all I hate these people are all stupid he had his theories on anthropology and genetics and biology and whatever it was all you know his problem if you can get past that and some of his stories have more of that than others if you can get past all of that he's an excellent writer but there's this story as I mentioned The Horror at Red Hook now this story is worth a read for a couple of reasons first of all it's an interesting view of New York over a hundred years ago specifically Brooklyn when Brooklyn was much more rural than it is now in fact it's not rural at all but it was back then and it was very much a series of loosely connected towns and villages a lot of the landmarks he mentions in that story are still here now the village of Red Hook that he writes about isn't that much change today he doesn't like it mainly because it's full of all these foreigners bringing in all their crime it was crime ridden and today it's crime ridden I would not say you should walk around Red Hook at night and despite the fact that I've done that but you should not do that they've recently built a brand new IKEA there and it's probably the only reason to go to Red Hook it's run down it's dilapidated it's streets don't necessarily follow the street grid it's off on the other side of the highway it's right on the water and as I said crime ridden in dangerous getting back to Lovecraft he didn't like that he writes this story the horror of Red Hook and it's sort of an odd duck as far as his stories are concerned it doesn't fit in his horror mythos at all you can sort of see elements of other stories it's got a little bit of his typical horror mythos but none of the same gods in fact a little research shows that most of the mythology that he references in those stories he copied right out of the inside the pedia it's got a little bit of the case of Charles Dexter Ward in there and a couple other little elements but none of it gels together there are glimpses of what could be a really good story in there but it's not just not so good it's really not the sum of his parts and it comes out of the fact that the story is kind of boring it is very reflective of Lovecraft's time in Brooklyn he just didn't like it his marriage wasn't going well in fact he and his wife split up because they're very poor she went to another city just get money and he stayed here and worked at the same time and of course while New York one of its positives is that it is a melting pot wasn't such a positive for him and not only is it reflected in the work in that it's got all the negatives about racism and foreigners in it it's reflected in that it's just not a good story it's kind of a boring do nothing plot and Lovecraft himself said it's really not one of his better works so in the end even Lovecraft didn't like it so New York has got a lot of positive influences it's got a lot of really great stories coming out of it the horror at Red Hook is not one of them so it's kind of interesting that you have this really great American writer who has influenced generations of writers if you read Stephen King's early works he kind of lifts passages here and there from Lovecraft he comes to New York he's out of his comfort zone he's in a very cosmopolitan place where the influences are vast and he just pretty much hates it writes a crappy story so New York's a great town New York New York it's a wonderful town the Bronx is up the batteries down and Lovecraft was out of here in a few years he just didn't like it they can't all be good ones and for the horror at Red Hook they can't even be pretty good ones it's just not a good story however as I said you should read it just to see what a fantastic writer otherwise thinks is a not so fantastic story of his and the fact that it is another Brooklyn story I'm Barry this has been your New York minute and if I forgot anything like I said it was unscripted this week despite its unscripted nature that came out really well thanks a lot Barry in case I forget you can find his work over at BMJ2K.com does a lot of great blogging at his site I find it very I have to admit there was a portion where he was discussing I think of New York I'm thinking of you know Pacino in his godfather outfit ruling the streets I'm thinking you know the Warriors the sort of rough street like rough roads of thugs roaming around and I don't really think of Ikea it was just very odd to be like don't go in that neighborhood but the Ikea there's Ikea that's pretty reasonably priced furniture's not very good breaks pretty but it's reasonably priced there is also something sort of hilarious that Lovecraft hated the sort of melting pot nature of the area and the foreigners who live there and it's an Ikea yeah dead those Swedes it is unfortunate that we've gotten to a point where we have to apologize every time we bring up Lovecraft there's a lot of love in his mythos and everyone wants to hug Cthulhu but there are parts of his writing that are very tough to read these days without wincing physically thanks very much for calling in Barry very stellar job this week I wouldn't be concerned about unscripted and you can do that again I thought it was quality it was very very I think it shows that he was a teacher for a long time and even when he's unprepared he still has a fairly good structure in mind and knows how to move it along speaking and moving it along me just want to mention briefly that Doc Lue on Twitter was making some interesting guesses about the connection between the murder the murder plague and the zombies from Ruby departed and I thought that was fun because he came up with this idea which was it was a great idea that the people of the murder plague were so aggressive because they were under the effect that they were going under for the virus that was going around was making them think that the other guys were zombies mm-hmm so they were essentially slaughtering each other but it was a fun idea but no that is not the case yeah great idea so it's like Ruby is the infected one and everybody's okay but she thinks they're all zombies so she's killing them essentially yeah that's crazy but on the on the flip side yeah anyhow nice job no but I love our theory yeah we also heard from Jack Gantor hey guys it's Ray I'm calling in regards to your most recent conversation about zombies and parasites and rot and all that guys I've seen a couple different sources where obviously Max Brooks I do believe you guys were right with the disease that killed off all the parasites it's been a while but I can probably come up with a couple other sources where they are actually using parasites and the scavenging bugs as part of the zombie terror you know it spreads the disease faster stuff like that with that being said I do find that zombies are quickly becoming like vampires where they have different rules depending on the universe like Max Brooks and most other ones they they claim you know shoot him in the head and they'll stay dead but you know movies like Return of the Living Dead the shooting in the head didn't really stop them it was electricity that you needed and then another other stuff you just you know shoot them enough times in the get and they'll put them down but yeah like vampires who in some cases silver works and even in some other cases where the steak wasn't even enough the steak would work but you usually had to remove the head and then in the next person's tail steak is just enough you steak them dust them and then carry on your merry way to the next beast that needs lying so it's interesting with the popularity of zombies how people want to tinker with the rules to make it fit their own story but that's that's all I had to say to add on that subject right now I hope you guys are all getting better quickly kill those colds I find cold effects works I don't know if you guys have tried that but anyway hope everyone's a well or getting better fast talk to you guys soon bye thanks for the call rables yeah you have a lot of good points there it also brings up the topic of fast zombies which are personal I like I really enjoyed the dawn of the dead remake I feel like it's kind of almost a different movie because of the fast zombies I don't feel fast zombies have the same and we've probably discussed this before they don't have the same gravitas low zombies you know I find fast zombies a lot scarier and that's what creeped me out about quarantine the zombie ghoul things were fast well they were more see I just think of those as almost rabid people yeah well now something interesting though because what we end up defaulting to is the Romero zombie right the night of the living dead classic zombie the thing about the Romero film is that it lapsed into the public domain almost immediately after it was made the people who had originally fought the rights or whatever forgot to re-up it so I think a year or two into its release it totally went free and all night movie houses which were just them picking up their sort of major wind just went crazy with it because they had this great movie that they could show constantly without having to pay anything for it but it all adds up to this idea that everyone's seeing it they're all sort of familiar with zombies and it's this a monster that if they had kept that film closed think of the movies that wouldn't have been made you would have seen any slow zombie movies other than night of living dead and possibly its sequels because they would have jumped on that they would have maintained that copyright that was the film that really started that shoot them in the head and dead shambling zombie and they're all messed up the weird thing is that the film almost itself helps spread that around but not really clarifying why the zombie virus is going on or if it is a virus there's talk about this like satellite returning from space and it might be radiation and all this weird it's all kind of gossip and hearsay yeah all of the news people are presented as totally confused and not really knowing what's going on or it's you know some guy from his truck and he's heard something from some other guy yeah that's helpful so it really lends itself to this world that you can play in and you know fuss around the corners of yeah the possibilities are endless the you can feel like night of the living dead takes place in the same world as you know the very specific events of dawn of the dead or night or day I mean which all happen in the same world yes but they don't touch each other at all the care there's no recurring characters and there's no reason that like zombie to the Italian film or any of the other zombie movies that came out except for something like return where the rules are just so different that they don't necessarily coincide there's no reason that they can't all take place in the same world because most zombie stories are sort of so personal at their core it's usually about a person or a few people having some sort of terrible day hey thanks a lot for the curry absolutely Gigant or excellent insights sir we got a lot of excellent we have some excellent mail from Barry and I really want to touch on it but the truth is it'll wait and this episode is already going quite long so I think it would be best If now we hear from Joe Hello flash cast crew and fellow mobsters first just want to put out there that I'm firmly in the don't go with con camp been there done that be imaginative you broke the timeline for a reason make it count interesting comments on zombies and insects haven't thought about it much but when you brought it up I was reminded of the mosquito HIV scare imagine the zombie plague transmitted via insect bite we'd be so screwed seems like a potential story here as for the cold I'm sure the last thing the folks in the great white north want is an influx of your neighbors to the south unfortunately sounds like it's already happening as Americans are crossing the border looking for work I'm attaching a link to the story you should consider a border fence it would serve us right I'd read an article that discussed the area in pupil Jeff mentioned in spotted bother the thing that blows me away is that none of the reporters have put the pieces together and pointed out that the areas covered with radio telescopes which if they are working are picking up signals and so while the areas devoid of human produced electromagnetic signals it's still being flooded with the same by the cosmos earlier this week we were hit by a fairly large solar storm have to wonder folks in the area were incapacitated I thought the space battle at the beginning of the last Star Trek movie depicting the battle at Wolf 359 against the board wasn't too bad as far as space battles go as you noted however the lack of a fighter craft in start Starfleet means you're not going to see much in the way of flashy battles all-law battle star Galactica or Star Wars and the engineer in me has to bring the whole group down by pointing out that actual space battles when and if they occur are likely to be very boring affairs this point was brought home in Joe Haldeman's Forever War where at least early in the war the spaceships used metal ball bearing shot magnetically into space death by artificial micrometeorite storm effective but not very flashy as for queens in the board collective I'll refer you to a couple of other sci-fi stories Frank Herbert's novel Helstrom's Hive and Bruce Sterling's awesome short story swarm both have an intelligent entity guiding the collective so there is a precedent in the latter story the queen is a transient part of the collective only born in existence for a brief period of need said need being to eradicate the pests that have infected the colony the queen decides that the best course of action is to eradicate the pests at the source the pests well humans of course a great story on how intelligence and curiosity are not necessarily the best survival traits to have so given that I've named up three great authors this week I will call this my author section but reserve the right to return to these authors in the future glad to hear you won't be giving up on sci-fi I revisited Aggie story last week just because I love it so much also glad Ruby is still with us however briefly this will last really enjoyed our latest adventure given the posity of good candidates here I am formally declaring my support for the JRD 2012 campaign I'm looking into forming a super pack full disclosure I'm taking my cue from Stephen Colbert who has shown this is a great way to collect money take care solar storm aside I have to admit after we were listening to that story last week I got thinking do these people have problem going out into the visible radiation of sunlight where's the line they don't under yes but these people aren't claiming that some people have actual conditions that affect actual biological anyway take the air that balloon I don't know I think a border wall is a little harsh Joe I think we have plenty McDonald's up here I thought there was so funny though yeah be like well I want those people from the south coming up in our country and taking our jobs and bringing our crimes up here but no we're not like that even if you are American we'll take you in we'll give you a job we'll dust you off somebody's got to club the seals say thank you to you so because we're Canadian yeah it was interesting that you brought up forever war because I'd actually forgot about the ball bearings in that book but at the same time that whole that whole story has such an effect on me and how war is presented in space at the same time another book that I'm in bring up is protector by Larry Niven which was the first book I really encountered that brought you know slow physics and large spaces together for me I did goof on that a little bit in the latest Joe Monk which went up well after Joe submitted this comment thank you very much Joe yeah I mean I was gonna mention this in background plots but Joe's obviously my run at the classic Heinlein Heinlein Heinlein Heinlein Heinlein I have always heard Heinlein but I've heard some people correct me recently so I don't know and it gets me into this Tolkien Tolkien did you know that Tolkien actually got so annoyed with his pronunciation issues that he specifically like laid it out in a letter that his name was Tolkien like even like indicated the pronunciation yeah I should try to find that for the show notes anyway whatever his name Heinlein Heinlein Heinlein I enjoy his work or politics as I mentioned in the past don't always mesh but I love the buff hard chunk space opera character and Joe is sort of a caricature on that at the same time he's the closest I get to read in comedy which is weird because he's the only continuing sci-fi story I do at the moment and yet though I'd love to do a very serious science fiction story at the moment he's currently the only goofy kind of character that I maintain the achievers aside they're very serious in their own way anyway thanks a lot Joe always a fantastic call always nice to hear from you okay well I think this would actually be a good time to move into background plots considering so we covered Joe Monk a little bit but let's talk for a moment about black all because we posted up the settler in this timeline or in this last week and I really feel like we're approaching the next chapter of black halls story his time and Perth and I've built a in the same way that I feel recently I've built a nice little sandbox for Ruby to play on for the next chapter of her story and that's going to propel her along her journey quite nicely or will it done done no I feel I have sort of the same thing for black hall in that operating in the Perth area for a little bit hopefully not giving too much away and that he won't be continuing this journey too quickly we'll give him a chance to build up some secondary characters which unfortunately are a little bit lacking with black hall yeah he is always traveling so much but I really liked that he was some sort of commander I can't remember whether he was a captain or something I can't remember his name I can't remember what his name is but the the commander that he ends up going out to see the damage for mhm fits you that's the guy fits you mhm he was really a lot of fun to read for I like doing his voice he's suddenly going to come back around I can promise that he had sort of a good rapport with black hall they were kind of jokey but also black hall was a little bit resentful of him well that's the thing you never get to see any of black hall's history because he never has anyone to play against in that sense mm-hmm I mean he has stories to tell you like you've heard a couple like the the stone baby mm-hmm that was his history sort of yeah but it was more like a memory an ass and drinking you well but yeah it's interesting to see him reminisce with somebody that's a lot of fun gives him a little bit more like common history mm-hmm and we'll get to see a little bit more of that and maybe also some newer friends of his better friends than Marco yeah which was you know the only other real character we've had maintained in his story arc anyhow yeah I'm also as I mentioned really excited about what's going on in Ruby so maybe there will be more than that than you expect though I don't know not say anything we'll see we are oh never race so um we've already given our apologies and excuses for episode 200 but my project is coming along of course the plague did slow us down bring things to somewhat of a standstill but overall it's it's a nearing completion really and I've got some pretty nice pictures that Jamie has taken along the way so I was thinking we'd post some of those on the wall see if any of the mobsters dig it yeah sounds good mm-hmm are you a dassy hope hope the plague to slowed me down because I haven't like said really anything about my project but I think I could just say that safely that it's something that I'm going to be singing and when you have a plague that's a really hard thing to do especially this was such a throaty beast yes it was like a really bad sore throat for seven days straight and it was so puffy and it was terrible I'm like reliving it in my brain I'm like that'll never happen again please god no mr. Toad's mucus he ride yeah it was gross anyways so um I have actually the good thing about knowing more about audacity is there's like there's so many tricks and I got this piece of music and I messed with the key it was in and I just went through like so many different ones until I got really what I liked and so yeah that's pretty much decided I know the arrangement of what I'm doing is just a matter of practicing it recording it and waiting for you other two slackers to get your stuck in order yeah slackers we're so lazy I know I know you know who's not lazy who Jim who we owe a lot of big thanks to you yes James from relic radio for Ho relic radio calm for hosting wiki.flyphob.com yes and the side of Rama for all that you do Jim the side of terrier at flashpop.com it's satastic I'm so sated oh oh if you have comments questions or suggestions you can find us at flashpop.com color voicemail line at 206-338-2792 or email us text at mp3 is to comments at flashpop.com just can make vocal talents and musical stylants can be found at maytunes.com the entire run of flashpop can be found at flashpop.com or via the search bar in itunes flashcast is released under the Canadian creative commons attribution non-commercial 2.5 license we'll see you next week and we'll hopefully all be in better condition. "One day to leave my hour of lumberland, here is the shadow of my little slackers number there. Little light flowers will never awake when you worry, not where the black holes of our own has taken you. Angels have no part of ever returning you to a day behind me if I am joining you. "One day to leave, I'm weary of bending in. This is the last one and then I am bending in. Could there be candles and prayers at us at our door? Why should they cry when they know that I'm glad to go? It's the dead dream, then I will be mine for asking you. On the long journey I know I'll be blessed for you. We'll all be some way. [Music] You tickling my armpit. Okay Jessica may behave until we're done.