[Music] Hello and welcome to Flashcast 37. Brought to you by R. Heron. Prepare yourself for uncle, Wi-Fi sickness, Quixster, Romantic Ultimate Fighting Championship, Stealing Niven, and the Return of Ruby. [Music] Tonight we have myself, Opoponax, Ellecution and Adornment. Jessica May. Auditory, Contervation, Muse, and JRD. Hello. PetswaPiler. Petswa. Petswa. We're finally here. Yeah, I know. It took us a long time to get here. It really did. There were so many things, but I think we would just like sit here and complain a while and nobody wants to listen to that. No, it's not fun. So do you know what time it is? [Music] So before we get into the up-to-date news, I just wanted to discuss a couple of films, a couple of fairly pulpy films we watched recently. Carnage, also known as Corruption, with Peter Cushing. Oh, yes. I almost rooted for him because he's Peter Cushing, you know? You know, he really didn't want to be in the situation he was in. Yeah, his wife, she went mad. She wasn't a nice lady to begin with, really. I think she should have just left her. She's a model who has her face burnt during a scuffle between Peter Cushing and another fellow who. And they were engaged and because he felt like it was his fault that she was hurt, he went through so much to keep her surgeon. Yeah, he's a master surgeon. Yeah. So he begins stealing glands to replenish her beauty because somehow, back in the day, science believed. Well, no, no, sorry. Not science horror movies believe that glands were going to correct everything. The pituitary gland. There's a link to the beyond. But it had to be coming from, it had to come from a living face or whatever. Yeah, well, that's what they discovered, so he had to keep killing more ladies. Yeah, because it had an expiration date on it. Yeah, he didn't want to, but she made him. Yeah, she was crazy. And then she was threatening him, so he felt like he had to. It was a terrible, terrible situation. I would be interested if anyone else out there has seen it. What are your thoughts about that ending? Yeah, because I'm going to go ahead and spoil it. Everyone dies and then basically they replay the first five minutes of the film and then they cut to the credits. Yeah, that was weird. And I, when I see that sort of thing, I think, is this supposed to be hell? But I think it's actually more a case that they shot the film, saw how much, well, how depressing the ending was when all five of the main characters, oh, the only five actors they paid for more than one day of set time, die in the final scene. And where do you go from there? So I think they just saw that, decided we're gonna stick something on. So why not just use the footage we already have? Yeah, and they weren't completely clear with what that meant, but I guess that's just easier for them. They're like, well, who knows? Yeah, it's deep. You wouldn't get it. Yeah, yeah, if you don't get it, you're dumb. Also watched Ghost Story from 1981 based on a Peter Straub novel, I think? That's pretty cool. It was an interesting movie. It sort of was one of those films where they go out and hire a bunch of old guys who haven't worked for a while so they can pick up named people at a fairly cheap cost. I guess that was my impression. I was so concerned that they were going to somehow disparage Fred Astaire. I know. It ended up working out well, where I think they were. Yeah, the premise of the film Fred Astaire, Melvin Douglas, Douglas Fairbanks Jr. I can't remember the other fellow's name now. They all have this sort of old fellow storytelling society and they hang out together with a storied past. It all has to do with this girl, this one girl. Actually, interesting fact, did you know the actress, Alice Krieg, was actually the Borg Queen? Really? That whole film, I was, I recognized her and I couldn't quite place her, but it was because she was the Borg Queen. Yeah, I can understand how you didn't make the connection, actually. You know, I think the idea of a queen in like, I don't know, Borg society. It doesn't really make sense to me. Well, there has to be an order, right? I don't know. No, there has to be, you can't get a named actor in there, you can't get somebody to really put a face on them because every Borg is disposable to the last one unless they separate off and try to run for their own individuality, which isn't what they do. That's counter-Borg. Yeah, exactly. No, I totally agree. So the idea of like a kingdom idea behind the Borg is kind of strange. Anyway, I think it's cool because it's like a hive, but it's all mechanical. It's more like a, if you think like bees, they have a queen, but they're like a hive mind. Yeah, exactly. No, that's not true. They are a hive, but they're not a hive mind. Not a hive mind. Hive mind slaves! Yeah, that's a Joe throwback. Joe Mike, that is, yeah. Anyway, it was a good film though. I enjoyed it. There were parts that were odd. Actually, something I wanted to mention. There's a section of the film where it's sort of a historical moment they're having a flashback and they have young versions of all of the major actors in the film, but that's an odd situation because I'm very familiar with what Fred Astaire looked like when he was younger. Douglas Fairbanks Jr. You know what I mean? And it seemed a little bit like how nowadays they've begun to edit people in from other films or whatever to try to bridge that same gap, but especially the character who was playing Young Astaire was not selling me on that role. He was just this goofy guy who kept giggling all the time and it was not, he didn't have the right character notes. Anyway, and his dancing was terrible. That was the other odd thing. I kept it expecting him to dance. Not so much, but it had some good story points. I mean, it was worth a watch. Now, this brings me to a larger point. In our extended period away, they announced, Netflix announced, that they were going to be breaking off the DVD service from the main service. So now there's going to be Netflix and there's going to be Quickster. Have you guys heard that? What's the difference between Netflix and the rest of their whatever? Netflix is going to be the streaming option, like if you want to download it straight from the internet and Quickster will be the DVD by mail company. So that doesn't really affect us since we don't really do that, right? Well, I feel the streaming is a really important, this goes to a larger point, I guess I was thinking about, that pulp is pushed through really cheap, easy channels. They're always the popular mainstream channels and they kind of exist maybe at the fringe of that, but Netflix really is a modern pulp pusher in my mind. They pick up a lot of cheap, they want a lot of selection in their library, so they pick things up, they can pick up with the cheap, and they push them through. I guess with the DVDs as well, they really have to be known, because you have to ask for it by name now, whereas you're going on Netflix and it's going to suggest a whole bunch of other stuff that you wouldn't have considered. Which is great, thank you Netflix. I think that goes to a larger business point though, I think that the DVD business is really shrinking rapidly, whereas the streaming business is growing by leaps and bounds. How does it shed, honestly? And I'm wondering if there are certain legal restrictions that have been hamstringing them a little bit, because I know that there are content restrictions on what they can display, and just sort of maybe how much their contracts are with the different companies, maybe weighing them down a little bit. So, we'll see, we'll see long term. I personally think they split them off so that Quickster could just die. I think they know that that business is eventually going to collapse entirely, it's going to go the way the Blockbuster, if you will. And Redbox is eating their lunch, now you can go and get your films out of a vending machine. Really? For like a dollar? I didn't know that. And if you can do that, why bother, you know, why wait a month until you hopefully get the one you were hoping to watch. Exactly. So, yeah. Wanted to touch on book news again this time around. A couple quick notes. Apparently Lance Henriksen has a book out. Called Not Bad for a Human, he's been touring around, pushing it. Yeah, well, remember he was just in the big city recently. Yeah, in Toronto. Yeah. I have a fascination for, I must admit, for biographies written by, you know, sort of B actors. Yeah. If Jinska Kiel is one of my favorites. Yes. Yeah, Bruce, who doesn't love him. And he has such an interesting checkered career, but I would really be interested in picking this up. We'll have to see if I can find a copy on Amazon for the cheap. Yeah, I'd love that. I'd love to hear like the behind the scenes on things like New York, and Alien. Mm-hmm. Pumpkinhead. Aliens is... I can't remember which one he was in. Aliens. And yeah, pumpkinhead, that was really good. Millennium, everything. Well, that'd be awesome. We don't, in popular press, we don't often touch on the sort of romance side of pulp, but I do think that cheap-toured romances are a major part of the pulp industry, and we should pay a little respect. I actually just picked up a cheap-toured romance recently. It's like a steampunk romance. I'm almost embarrassed about it, but it'll be like, not for the steampunk. Yeah, just for the fact that it's a Harlequin book. Yeah, well, he wouldn't. Yeah, a pope doesn't really go for books like that, so. Oh, can I tell a funny story? Okay, tell one. I, the only other time I ever read a Harlequin book, I picked up one accidentally in the library in grade six, and I got like, to the like, fourth or fifth chapter when I was like, "Wait a minute!" And the librarian, when I went to check it out, she's like, "Are you sure this is good for you?" And I was all offended because I thought she thought that I wouldn't be able to read it, so I was like, "No, it's fine!" And then I was really embarrassed, so I felt like I should finish reading the book anyway, but then I couldn't. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm so innocent. Despite their sort of shady reputation in a sense, Harlequin has been pushing a lot of paper out for a long time, and they look for, you know, interesting angles for their stories. And I guess recently one of them, they put out a book called Her Son's Hero, which could be anything, right? Like, that is any standard Harlequin plot. One of the editors had been, I believe it was an editor, had been watching MMA, mixed martial arts league, like a mixed martial arts league. Okay. And decided that some sort of ultimate fighting championship style book would be really a hit, so... Oh yeah, that's so hot. I like their cauliflower ears. So yeah, the male lead of the story is a UFC fighter or something. Yeah, a good occasion, and tiny little testicles. They got me thinking, though, how long until the pulp circle of life is complete, and they have some sort of real life superhero novel where it's, you know, like Phoenix Jones and all those guys is the main lead. Wouldn't that be fantastic? And he's the male man? Yeah, the way he helped that old lady across the street, it was breathtaking. He handed it blankets and made it warm. It was hot warming. In radio news, there's been a lot of talk lately, I believe it's the 30th anniversary, 25th anniversary of the Star Wars NPR radio shows. Now, I wasn't familiar with these until just recently. I actually read about them first in the relic radio forums. Deskame, a little sample of us. I have a visual sighting, a number of small spacecrafts coming at high velocity from sector four. And you identify them? They're moving awfully fast. Imperial tide fighters must be 20 of them. Renegade flight is a renegade leader, prepare to engage the tide fighters. Transport ships go into hyperdrive as soon as you're... This is a renegade tree, Bob. There's another bunch of them dead ahead in our course. They're breaking for a task. Renegade two more ties approaching from sector eight. They're all over the place. Here they come! Renegade three, four, five, and six get up and clear the way for the transports. The rest of you protect the convoy. Transport's run for it. Maximum acceleration. All right, renegade flight. Hit him. Watch it, renegade two. See you. On your tail, renegade seven. Scissor right. Scissor right. Get him off me. Bob, we can't stop, they're too many. Bob, they just got cat codes. Protect the transports. The transports have to get through. Bob, they're all over us. They just got transport number two. I'm hit. Left, both, port, tight engine. Keep going. This is renegade three. There are four tie fighters on me. Help me. Somebody, I can't shake them. I got to admit, I got more excited about that clip than I did about the first three prequels. What was that all about? Well, here's the thing. There are three sets of shows. I don't know how many in total each covers the three films, like the three original films, and the three films that people actually care about. Yeah, the ones that are worthwhile. And apparently they extend the story a little bit. There's sections that take place before the movies and they cover different aspects, so. That's interesting. I think it's definitely something I may sit down with Mr. A to listen through with. Yeah, it seems really quality. Very good. Very nice. I thought I would introduce that to the audience in case they happen to run across a copy. That'd be awesome. Now, another item I was reading on the intertubes, there may be an upcoming Hannibal Lecter TV series. Really? Hannibal will center on Lecter's early days, namely his time going head to head with FBI agent Will Graham and his cooking show featuring his victims. Yeah, I can see that as a perpetual cat and mouse type thing going on, and I can see that sort of working, but can you really root for the guy that's killing every episode? I don't know how we done it every other movie. How much cannibalism can you show on television? That's what it boils down to. Frankly, I found Red Dragon a little boring, which was sort of more Hannibal Lecter. If you look at Silence of the Lambs, it's really Lecter works best as a side show almost, an occasional item. As the centerpiece of a story, he doesn't necessarily carry that much weight. You need to come to him as a mysterious Obi-Wan Kenobi who likes brains as opposed to making you another Skywalker. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. You can't really get behind him as a main character. Now, this did remind me of Manhunter, which is sort of an underappreciated go at it. Underappreciated? Well, listen, there are aspects of that film like the over-shadowing scene that I can't think of any other scene in Manhunter, except for that scene. Dennis Farina, who is sort of a classic character actor, does he just outshines the main character is played by William Peterson, Grissom from CSI. He plays Will Graham and he overacts constantly. There's this scene where he's in a tree and he's shouting at a house and it's just so ridiculous. He's having a conversation with like the serial killer and he can't like really get him right now, but he's gonna and he's inside the guy's head, but he's having this conversation with himself, only himself, in a tree, and he's just getting so irate. Like it just seems so funny. Like if somebody was to walk past that guy, like it was just like imagine that, like just the limbs are shaking. I think the reason that Grissom was such a low-key fella all the time is to get away from that. Any time he acts, like anytime he shows a motion, he's doing a bad job of it. So he just has to play Cole in control. And honestly, if he's gonna be so intense, like you can be intense and quiet, but intense and loud is just too much for me. Okay, Dennis Farina, you'll recognize him from this clip we're gonna play. I just think of Dan Marina when he's safe for me. Even in the short clip, I think he's out acting, William Peterson, unfortunately. So what are we doing? The dream. He dreams about being wanted and desired. So he changes people into being to want and desire. Changes? It's a word. Killing and arranging the people to imitate it. And lecture told me something. If one does what God does enough times, one will become as God is. You put it together, you get. If our boy imitates being wanted and desired enough times, he believes he will become one who has wanted and desired and accepted. It'll all come true. Now my memory of that film is that every scene is like that, where he's just speaking garbage that he could condense into a single line, but he just has to yammer on for five or ten minutes and then finally come up with some valid point. He's always sitting on something and you're getting a shot from like below him. He's always leaning. Somebody's always asking a very important question. He's always taking a moment to ponder it. Anyway, it was beautiful. There are aspects of that film that are a lot of fun, but he's not one of them. Oh God, the tree. I'll never get over it, honestly. I'm gonna see this. What is that damn movie? Manhunter? Yeah, I hate that movie. Tim, you grissom. And now I want to go on YouTube and just look at it for realzies. Now to sort of bridge the gap between TV and film a little more, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Ryan Gosling maybe signing up for Steve Sutterberg's "The Man from Uncle" reboot. Who will be the Russian? I'm so freaking excited about this. I can only imagine that Ryan Gosling will be Ilya and then Joseph Gordon-Levitt will be Napoleon Zulu. Do you think so? I think he'll be so good at it. Yeah. You're doing the flip side of that, which makes me sad. Oh, that's funny. That, you know what? I could believe that too. Either way, honestly. I think we're good actors. Because you know what? I see Joseph Gordon-Levitt in that sort of second-man character like he was in "Inception". But at the same time, he's so smooth and sly. I see him also being able to pull off Napoleon Zulu. Okay, maybe they'll do it that way. And if they do, then I think it'll be quality. But the thing about Ryan Gosling is, I think he's going to do that schmoozy bugger character that I hate so much. And that's going to be Napoleon Zulu. I don't know. He can do that as Ilya too and play a little clumsy. Ilya, no, Ilya was a little more restrained. Yes, he was quiet. And that's not that the quiet character is Joseph Gordon-Levitt, unfortunately. Yes, exactly. That's why I'm saying I can see him totally playing the second man. But he also has the strength to pull off Napoleon. Yeah. Our Pat's was supposed to be in "The Man from Uncle". Oh, he's also a good man? Well, actually, he was supposed to be in it. But then he decided against casting him. Hiring a sparkly vampire? Yeah, well, he's not always a sparkly vampire. You know, sometimes he makes peters. I'm excited. Actually, we watched a lot of that show with with our kids. Yeah. The story's really similar to it. The thing is, you can't introduce them to James Bond, because a lot of the Bond films are way too intense. But you can do "Man from Uncle" and they can get that and enjoy the suits and secret agent aspect. And Napoleon was definitely a ladies man, but at the same time, he was never intense with anything. And it was always, you know, implied. It wasn't like, with Bond, where you're seeing him. And Ilya would be like, "Oh, Napoleon". You know? And the OG Carol. You can't miss that. He was in North by North West. "Rain the Mob" was also mentioning a film called "Monster Brawl" that's going to be coming out soon. It's hosted by David Foley. It's a it's a pay-per-view sort of style film where they have a number of monsters all coming out and fighting in a ring. And David Foley plays the sort of announcer throughout it. I don't think it's actually in theaters yet. I think they're probably still shopping around on the festival circuit, but... Is it like the Lady Gaga Monster Ball? Probably not at all. Not at all? Not at all. I think just like it. There might be a big spider piano. Yeah. Just off in the corner. You got to look really hard. Now, obviously, they couldn't use any totally licensed properties, but they've got a version of Frankenstein in there. They've got a version of the Creature from the Black Lagoon, I believe. The Wolfman. They've got a Cyclops. They've got a Swamp Gut, which I believe is actually the Creature of the Black Lagoon. A bunch of other characters who are obviously just slightly different for copyright reasons. Yeah. And actually, Oddly Lance - Henry - Hendrickson is involved in the project, I'm not quite sure how. He's one of the monsters too. It would be excellent if he was an Android, but anyway. Oh, that would be pretty cool. Android? Yeah. I just thought of it being Lance Hendrickson. We look, "I'm Lance Hendrickson." That'd be great too. You never know. We've been getting a lot of great suggestions in the Mob for the October 31, especially Nick Mann. That was fantastic. Well done, sir. You have a collection after my own heart. Oh, so far. Some of those I'm going to skip because I've seen, but there's a lot on that list that I would love to dig into. Now, I must say, although not too many of them came up, I am a bit adverse to horror comedies for some reason. I prefer a straight horror movie. I do make exceptions. I find Sean of the Dead Fantastic. I enjoyed "Zombieland." You know what else was really good? House too. The Peter Jackson films. When he tries his hand at horror. Which ones are those? Well, especially I'm thinking of "Brain Dead" or "Dead Alive" or whatever you want to call it. Okay. Bad taste, although that's not really a horror film. It has, you know, gore aspects, I guess. But generally, I don't so much enjoy a horror comedy. I'd much rather my monsters be actually scary. It sort of defeats the purpose for me. You have a big love for 70s horror movies. It was classics. So I am making a list. Everything that everyone suggested is going into a document that I will share around with the Mob. So if you're interested, just look it up on Facebook, the Flash Mob, or you can find it at sidebar@flashball.com. Join, come speak with us and suggest your films. Finally, Fish. He was mentioning that J.J. Abrams is coming back to Direct Star Trek 2 and they're working out the script for the film. I can't get over how little I thought I was going to enjoy that movie and how much I actually did. Okay, but I have to admit, although I remember enjoying the film and I came out of it heartened that they hadn't ruined the franchise, I don't really remember the details. I just remember Spock was involved and there was some time problems. I know that they've said already that they wish that they would have taken bigger risks with the movie, been a little more controversial, maybe had some people in there who weren't all heterosexuals. So they're trying to open up the world a little bit for the next one. Yeah. Well, you know, there's something to be said for that and not necessarily in pushing any sort of specific gender preferences. But the old Star Trek was a little naughty, like there was always the risk that that costume was going to just fall down and there'd be like a nip-slip or those were pretty racy costumes they would often encounter on the aliens. And you do recall the Kirk Uhura kiss? Yeah, true. And even on next generation, there was a lot of napkin wearing episodes where they managed to get away with some relatively skimpy costumes under the name of, well, it's sort of... Or, you know, nudity, where they had celebrations that were entirely filled with nude people. Oh, yeah. Really? Yeah, there was a wedding. Yeah, remember that. Anyway, so I guess I applaud that. I just don't want them to overdo it and ruin what they've started, because I feel like they did get a solid base, even if I can't remember what it was about. Now, it seems like people right now are divided into two camps. They want either nothing to do with Con in the second or they want a Con episode. Con is one of my favorite Skinner Covert employees to reference, but I'm not sure if I want them back. Who would you get to play Con? Who is the modern Ricardo Manuel? Can we tell some new stories? I mean, it's old characters, but we did the Con thing. Yeah, and honestly, like, the first remake Star Trek, like this Star Trek movie wasn't a remake of the first Star Trek movie. Like, had a different plot. Yeah, that's true. We should name him, like, Spawn. Now, the one thing at this point that I'm a little bit disappointed in the new Star Trek, and one of the things that I really love about the Star Wars movies, for some reason I'm really into the space battles, I love the idea of the massive ships and... Yeah, a little these stereo shots, essentially. I'd prefer to be in space than kicking around the ship, talking about who's macking on who. Yeah, and I don't think it's even so much the big space ships. It's the little ones. It's the little guys that go out and fight, like, to defend the big ships. Yeah, well, that's right. That's what the real action is. You know what was good for that? Babylon 5. Yeah, sure. They had the big, awesome looking ships, but they also had, like, fighting ships and stuff, too, so they had some pretty awesome space battles. I love Babylon 5. I guess that was one of the strengths of Battle Star Galactica, too. Yeah, that was awesome, too. We never even saw that second season. Yeah, we never finished that. We got to get back to it. We'll have to watch the whole thing again. We actually, briefly, will also mention we also watched Thor. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, that was okay. I wasn't really disappointed. I really enjoyed the scenes of when he was home. Yeah, that was cool. I have to admit, and it's interesting that we're talking about old space battle movies because it suffers from some of the, especially the original Star Trek series, suffered from some of what I feel is the same going on with computer effects right now, although I really enjoyed Thor, and I enjoyed what they did with the, like, his realm and how they presented that. I still feel like we're not good enough to present it believably yet. You don't believe they're there. You just know that that's what they're showing. You know what I mean? You don't believe the spaceship is in space. You can kind of see the strings. You know that this is digital and that it's, you know, it just doesn't have that feel of actually being true. It doesn't have that perception that, hey, maybe they built this set. Yes, exactly so. You still, you know, you can tell the difference, and we're getting there. We're getting much better, even if you go back and look at digital effects, you know, five years ago, you can tell the difference. That was even pretty awesome. Well, that's why I think it's so sellable with, like, him being in some crazy realm, because it doesn't have to look like a set. Yeah, it doesn't have to look perfect. Anyway, that was actually also part of my problem, is that I felt like the costumes really worked when they were in Asgard or whatever, but when they were on Earth, it looked a little cheesy. But that's how it would be, honestly. We don't dress like that. I found the story was a little kind of machismo, and you could kind of figure it out pretty quick. So I would hope that if they do another, that they work a little harder on that. No, I didn't feel like they sold the point that he had redeemed himself, necessarily. Like, it felt like he was willing to sacrifice himself to whatever, and I understand that point, but... That's not exactly humility. Yeah, it's not quite what they were aiming for. It's just, you know, you could believe that of a great warrior of any steed, even if he believes he's just awesome. I'm so awesome I'm going to sacrifice myself. Yeah, or rather that, like, he knew that that's the thing that he had to do, so he didn't. Yeah. Rather than actually being willing to, you know, sacrifice himself. Dad says I can't be a jerk anymore, so I'm just totally going to say please all the time, now I guess, whatever. Yeah, but I did enjoy that it was kind of whimsical. There wasn't a whole lot of, like, gore, because we can totally show this to you. Yeah, totally. I had asked up on Twitter before watching the film if it was appropriate for an eight-year-old, and I got sort of a mixed reaction. One of the people, especially, was Joe, who said he didn't know specifically, but his brother-in-law, I believe he said, I could be wrong. I'm sorry, Joe, had said that he felt it was a little too intense. And my feeling is that the movie is one of those films that's right on the cusp, where if you have a maturing eight-year-olds and they not necessarily the kind who jump around watching Power Rangers and Kung Fu fighting all the time, then you might be able to, like, then it's an okay film for them, but if you have an easily-influenced puncher of a child... Or easily-scarable. Yeah, I could see them being scared of the ice giants or... Yeah, it totally depends on the kids, because at eight, I was watching things that were so much more disgusting. Yeah, it seems like we were watching Predator and just one or whatever we wanted. Yeah, one of my favorite films around that age was Poltergeist, and that was still scary. And the kids, you know, they'll listen to a couple seconds of scary music and they're like, they're like, they're... Yeah, pansies. Do you know who never gets scared while he's watching a film? Oh. Freshfish, a new batch of cinematic pulp with the always-listening, three-day fish. Hello, Flashcast. Today's Freshfish is going to be on Drive. I was hoping to get straw dogs, and for you guys this week, but sadly, my theater did not get it. But we did get Drive, which I watched for you, all of you. Drive is not what the commercials sell it to be. It's actually a drama, and it's a fairly, like, emotional drama, but that's not to say it's a bad movie. If you've seen The American with George Clooney, it's like that movie, except good. And it reminded me of it in these ways. It's very slow in the beginning, and a lot of emphasis is put on the main character while at the same time you know very little about the main character. Like, there's a lot of scenes where it's just zooming in or just the whole character's face, and it'll just hold their face for like 15 seconds or so. And then the other way this movie is like The American is, in The American there's this one scene where it's just like ultraviolet. Basically, a person gets their face blown off. Well, that happens a lot more in this movie. There's a couple of scenes that are just ultraviolet, and like, bam, out of nowhere, holy crap. Look at all the blood. So if you're kind of squeamish, I would not recommend this movie, because it's fairly graphic when it is violent. I think, honestly, the least violent scene is when Ryan Gosling stabbed this guy multiple times. That's like the least violent thing that happens in this movie. So yeah, the other thing is, even though it's slow, it was engaging the whole time I felt. Like, I was always into the scene. I was never like, oh my god, this scene needs to just end, or when is this gonna pick up, or I was always very much into the scene, and I think that had to do with the acting. I thought the acting was very compelling. So all in all, I'm gonna give this a green light, which is weird, because I generally don't like these real slow dramas, but I like this, and I think Ryan Gosling has a bright future out of him, because he was just in crazy stupid love that came out in July. Drive is out now. Oh, that's the other thing about Drive. It has a very 80s aura to it. The opening is like, it's like right out of the 80s movie playbook. It's like pink, hot pink lettering that's like kind of cursive, and just like weird music in the background, showing a city like, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. And there are all these like montages that are similar lately, just have music in the background. Go see this movie, I can recommend it, but wait, there's more, bump, bump, bump. Okay, so this movie almost escaped me, and it was because it's limited release, and my theater very rarely gets limited releases. We sometimes get them like after they come out, but it's this movie called Creature, and if you want to have the rare experience of seeing a B movie in a movie theater, then you need to go see Creature. This movie is absolutely awful, which is why it's so fun to watch. Like, the character dynamic doesn't make any sense. There's like six people, and four of them, we can understand how they're related, because there's like a brother and sister, and then the brother's girlfriend and the sister's boyfriend. And then like, there's these two rednecks that just hang out with them, and everyone's just always like, man, they're so stupid. And then like, the character dynamic doesn't make any sense, because you don't know how these people know the two rednecks. And the monster's costume is like a classic like rubber suit, and it's just awful. It's hilarious. So in a movie sense, this would get a red light, but you need to see it to just have the B movie experience in an actual movie. It's limited release, so I think only like fancy theaters have it, or big theaters. So yeah, not quite a double feature this week, just because Creature actually came out, I think, a week or two ago. And like I said, I'd almost escaped my ears, because I'm always listening. But not quite. So yeah, that's Fresh Fish, always listening. I wish everybody could have seen the look on JRT's face when you mentioned Creature. Uh, it was like a kid in a candy shop, so happy. But wait, I gotta be quiet, so Rodney and Carl don't hear me, but are you saying that everyone doesn't have a couple of hillbillies just following them around? I don't know where these guys come from. Excellent selections, Fish. I am interested in this dry film. I don't know. I'm on the fence. I've been hearing a lot of talk, either people seem to love it or love it. There's no middle ground on this one, apparently. And you only like middle ground. You always want like just a mediocre movie. Yeah, I want a waffle on film. No, um, a Belgian waffle. I think we need to keep Fish's 80s music rendition on tap. That was perfect. Yeah, it was. So good. JMA remarked on how 80s that was. Yeah, I can see it. And then she came out with a awesome bass line. Yeah, but I'm not repeating it. Oh, the good old days. If you've been around long enough, you too remember that annoying electronic handshake that your modem made as it connected to an old school, BBS, Delphi, Prodigy, CompuServe, and later on, America Online. For the most part, the days of computers screeching at each other in order to communicate are long gone, replaced by the quick, silent, ever-present Wi-Fi employed in most modern homes and offices. Along with wireless phones, cell towers, and other microwave transmission systems, we now live in an invisible fog of radio signal coverage that brings convenience, connectivity, and for some confusion and physical pain. Want to escape the digital monster? Well, it seems there is at least one place in the United States where that's possible. Here's a bit more from the Huffington Post. These days, it seems the only place you can escape electromagnetic waves is Greenbank, West Virginia. That's where Wi-Fi refugees are flocking according to the BBC. Apparently, the town is inside the 13,000 square miles of the U.S. Radio Quiet Zone. The Quiet Zone was designated for a geographically mountainous area where the topography helps to prevent radio transmissions from interfering with the large number of radio telescopes located there. As a result, it's becoming a haven for those who want to live without wireless technology. Back in 2004, Wired's John Gearland went inside the Quiet Zone, detailing how the site was selected and the great measures that some go through to maintain the low levels of electromagnetic waves. Wi-Fi in the area is banned, and radio stations are instructed to point their antennas away from the observatories and maintain low levels of transmission. The BBC details how these conditions have made the area an attractive spot for the 5% of Americans who believe they suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity or EHS. The highly debated condition seems to manifest itself physically in the presence of extremely low levels of radiation, and those who claim to suffer from it experience similar symptoms. If I walk into a room or building that has Wi-Fi, my most immediate sign is that the front of my right thigh goes numb. Arthur Furstenberg, 57 of Santa Fe, New Mexico, told ABC. If I don't leave, I'll get short of breath, chest pains, and the numbness will spread. Diane Hsu and Nichols Fox also suffer from EHS. Here's what they told the BBC. It hurts to think. It very much hurts to think. I tell my husband, just don't talk to me at that time. It's a reaction to electromagnetic radiation. Once one is overexposed to Wi-Fi, they may start to become susceptible to other electromagnetic radiation. What I cannot do is to go into a city. I'm not able to. I mean, it's very injurious. If I go where there's a crowd of people, because they may be carrying cell phones, you become a technological leper. It's what people are carrying that you have to stay away from. I've had to give up my career, and then I switched careers and had to give up that one. I had to leave the lovely house and community of friends and associates that I had on Mount Desert on Maine and come here to West Virginia. It's very beautiful, but it's not where I wanted to live. But I experience enormous fatigue and serious pain, very serious pain over my entire body. I was very hard to convince, and it was happening to me. I thought this can't really be true. Whether this condition is real or imagined is a topic of much debate. Studies have shown there is little proof that this condition is real. A study published in the journal Psychosomatic Medicine showed that in most cases, those who claim to suffer from EHS can't actually distinguish whether or not they're really being exposed to electromagnetic radiation. As for me, I can't imagine life without Wi-Fi, so I guess I'll just take my chances and hope for the best. I'm Jeffrey Lynch, and that's this week's Spotted Byther. I hate to admit it, but I kind of feel like it's probably not a real condition, and these people are serial/semi chronic gripers. I wonder how many people are there, because maybe it genuinely is a condition, like something we've been exposed to, but you would figure they would see some similarities between the people. Okay, my feeling is this, there's going to be a certain percentage of the population who are going to, for whatever reason, take up some sort of causes they're crusades, and they like the weirdness that that lifestyle brings along with it. They like the fact that they have to uproot themselves and go hang out with people who suffer the same delusion they do. It's chronic to cults, it's sort of the same thing. I can like hear the hate mail. I'm sorry, too bad, and I think, wait, the flip side of that is, I think these people serve a very important purpose in human society. I think that the reason we have such a spectrum of human behavior is because we're a little bit mute. Like, yes, the mutants are absolutely necessary, and even if I don't agree with them, I absolutely applaud their lifestyle. Maybe there is something, not necessarily what they believe it to be, but some other, you know, cancer form, or something that they will manage to avoid that will be important to our gene pool down the road. It's hard to say, and so, otherwise, I'm not moving anywhere, and I don't believe they actually suffered from a condition. Enjoy West Virginia. Absolutely, I'm sure it's a beautiful country out there. It must be very quiet, it must be a very nice place to live. Except I need Wi-Fi. I'm like Jeff. I'll take my chances. Thanks. Thanks a lot, Jeff, that was brilliant. Yeah, very nice job. Always professional. That's a good job. Good. You guys can find his work over at bottomballer.com or follow him on Twitter at please linch me. Hi, I'm Barry, and this is your New York Minute. This week's New York Minute is fat packed with semi-scientific suppositions and imaginary engineering. Beneath New York City, far below the sewers, underneath even the roaring subway, runs a series of water tunnels stretching from the huts into the west to the east river on the opposite side. These man-made subterranean waterways were constructed almost 100 years ago. They radiate into and out of a large chamber nearly a full block and width located directly below a particular building on Fifth Avenue. The water rushing into the chamber is harnessed to create hydroelectric power, which is used to operate a massive turntable. This piece of engineering is aligned perfectly with the building's central axis and is stabilized by and synchronized to three 100-foot gyroscopes ensuring that the turntable is always attuned to the earth's rotation. The entire system is accessible only at one point through an ordinary looking and unmarked door at the end of a long but unremarkable corridor just off the building's main lobby. Most people can't tell you what the purpose of the gyroscope setup is, and in fact nearly no one but a very elite few know of its existence. But if you find yourself in Midtown Manhattan at 4am on a particular morning and early May, you just might notice that a certain tall building seems to have slightly rotated in its foundation by exactly 4.675 degrees. And if you direct your gaze upward, you might notice that the building's antenna lines up perfectly with a certain celestial object. Can you say it isn't true? This New York Minute audio legend is another one from New York radio legend Long John nibbles back catalog with confabulation and obfuscation by yours truly. I'm Barry and keep watching the skies. I have to admit there's a certain magic to unmarked buildings. When I was a child, this is sort of an odd side step, but when I was a child in school, we read a short story with an accompanying picture about a family who had gotten to know this fellow who had moved into the neighborhood, now this might be a little off. But essentially the crux of the thing is that one night the house that they had gotten used to seeing at the corner simply took off into the sky, like a rocket, and the whole story was presented as if it was true fact for some reason. I ended up in Oz, it was really creepy. I was quite young at the time and I bought it for some reason, and I was like this cannot be, because the story says it essentially opened with "This is a true story" which was not true in itself, but I did not for some reason realize that. And it really bothered me for quite a while until I discussed it with some teacher and the situation was clarified. And then he was shocked and appalled, sir. It wasn't the first time the education system lied to me. Anyway, thanks a lot Barry, that was a lot of fun. I did a little reading on Long John nibble, kind of an interesting guy. Sounds like he had a bit of an art bell show that had more entertainment value, a little bit Jerry Springer, a little bit art bell. Classic New York personality. I'm not sure, I hadn't heard of him until this series by Barry, but he must be quite a legend in town as it were. Thanks Barry. Nick, our friend Captain Pighart, was mentioning in the mob in reaction to giant a few podcasts ago, a few flashcasts ago, that although he enjoyed Richard Morgan and Philip Kerr, he would also recommend Adrian Tchaikowski's Shadows of the Abt fantasy series, which he says a sort of steampunk sci-fi. I read a bit of a description, it seems to be sort of an insect world in which half of them can use magic but can't use technology and the other half can use technology but have no magic. Yeah, it seems very interesting. So you can find more about that at shadowsoftheappt.com all one word, and I'll put that in the show notes obviously, but I thought that was definitely worth mentioning. Yeah, thanks Captain. Quick note from Scott Roche. Like brioche. Well, that's exactly what he mentioned. He said, for those of you playing the home game, my last name rhymes with brioche, and if you don't know how to say that, you're a barbarian. Yeah, you've no idea how upset, well, Jared, he wasn't upset but he's like, ah, because we were, we pronounced it on the show improperly the first time. Yeah, and we had spent a little bit of time debating, but yeah, and we don't, we don't like to be improper, you know. So we apologize. We got a, we got an email, high flashbulb team. I'm a new listener and I enjoy your work very much, particularly I enjoy Ruby, coffin, harm, and black all. And their stories got me thinking about the zombie apocalypse that is all but, and all but assured to happen in the near future. It had, it seems to me that being dead, all the, albeit reanimated, that zombies would be subject to rot and have predation by insects. Yeah, well, that's a very good point. So while we are all under the immediate threat of global zombie invasion, we can relax inside with some relief knowing that within a few months, or within a month or so, the bugs of the world will start feasting on the hordes of the undead. Thank Karwick, yours and fun, Travis. You know, but what if you're a new zombie? What if everybody who dies from then on, you have to wait till those people. No, you know what? Karwick's always taking care of business. Every day, he gets stuffed in, he gets the job done. I haven't made an exact ruling on this in Ruby, only what's in the stories is canon. But I will say that I believe in World War Z, Max Brooks makes a point of saying that the virus that turns the zombies over also essentially kills all insects within the, all parasites within the zombies themselves. Yes, that is unfortunate. Yeah. So although he, uh, a point in that film, which I think might have even been mentioned in the classic Walker zombie journals from our friend Gigantor back in the day, colds will often slow them down, freeze them up for at least a season, which gives you a chance. Yeah, that seems a common theme in zombie. Yes, go north. Yeah, life is peaceful there. Do it above! Thanks a lot for the email though, I really appreciate the kind words. That was very kind. Your kind emails make our day. So bring them daily. Thank you. But not insects. No, no insects or zombies. Though we prepare for it, we do not ask for it. Right everybody? That's right. That's right. Yes. That's the motto. Speaking of Gigantor. Hey guys, it's Ray. Sorry it's been so long. Um, just a couple of things. I'm uh, currently almost not so behind on my flashcast. I've only have 36 left to listen to. Um, but in regards to 35, Jared, he was talking about uh, one of the Jason Friday the 13th movies where it wasn't actually Jason Voorhees. Um, it was definitely Friday the 13th number five. I remember this for a couple of reasons. The first reason is why it was it didn't have Jason Voorhees. It had the father of a mental patient who was killed by another mental patient. So this father took over the mantle of Jason and unleashed his wrath upon the mental health mental health patients and anybody who lived in the general area. The other two reasons I remember this so very well is because I watched it for the first time on the USA channel with Gilbert Godfrey who during commercial breaks would talk about the scenes that happened previously and he'd have actors pantomime, which was hilarious. Um, Jared, he was there with me watching this because I was not my grandparents. Anyway, long story short. Um, I think one of the Corey Feldman was in it too. Anyway, the other things I wanted to say is um, I'm amazed at the huge society you guys have managed to create. Everyone's contributions now are just amazing. It just keeps things going. The New York minute, Joe's author selections and just his comments in general three day fishes movie reviews and grids, uh, tales of Vienna and then nearly forgot to mention the spot of bother. What a great segment. Never have I been so engrossing hearing a conversation about beheading rats and you know, feasting bears. Scary, scary stuff. Um, popular press and everything else you guys got going on, but it's just every, every like Dave and it just seems to be there's something new, keeps getting bigger and bigger. I'm just impressed with how fast you guys have got things going. You really, you guys really have a goal and you guys are really hitting it, I think. Um, that's really all I wanted to say for now. I guess if I think of something else, I'm sure it'll just shoot you guys an email or throw you into the little voice clip. Keep on rocking guys. Bye. Thanks for the call. Um, I have to say, I think that I do distinctly remember watching this film and I may have been playing down my knowledge of the, uh, my memory of the film and its own whatever. Um, there was a very politically incorrect clip that I distinctly remember when that Gilbert Gottfried selection. Um, it was weird having him hosting that film. It was also my first experience with the film. Uh, I have to admit that Gigantor and I had many a film, a cinematic misadventure in her childhood. Yeah. I'm glad that he did not quote Gilbert Gottfried in that moment. Thanks a lot for the call Ray. It was fantastic. Yeah, good to hear from you Ray. Yeah, definitely appreciate the kind words. And yes, our society is growing. Although it is worth noting, it's been a year, been over a year now. That's true. Although I'm pleased with the pace of our empire. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is totally great. All right. I believe we shall now catch the mist, catch the myth. Hello, flashcast crew and fellow mobsters. My condolences on the plagues of pestilence and flood that were brought down on your family and house. Is Karwick trying to tell you something? Glad everything is getting back to normal and super excited for episode 200. Like fish, I was going to mention contagion, but then realized being autobiographical, you are already familiar with it. When you mentioned the Mexican anti-drug comics, my first thought was a 9/11 comic book, which interestingly, Jeff brought up and spotted bother. Both books are propaganda, in my opinion, are tools to get young ones thinking in directions I don't agree with. In one case, the idea is that all problems are caused by drugs, and the other by a large group of people with a common belief. Of course, reality is far more nuanced, and both problems and solutions are more complex than the comic suggest. It's fine to simplify for a child, but these books go beyond simplifying to indoctrinating. I prefer to teach children to think rather than force feed them conclusions. Also, while this is hard for me to say, with respect to the assassination of Osama bin Laden, I agree with the government's handling of the situation. They didn't want or need a prisoner or martyr to rally the al-Qaeda troops, so there was no way he was going to be taken alive, and no way they were going to allow his body to be enshrined. That ends my agreeing with the government section. I wish they put as much thought into not alienating folks in other countries to begin with. It would save a lot of money and, more importantly, lives on both sides. So where were we? Oh yes, speaking of great children's literature, I loved Welkin's reading of "Go the fuck to sleep." Was wondering if you'd heard Samuel L. Jackson's version, equally awesome. Very fun New York minute, wondering if Barry has ever gone looking for the bridge. Conspiracy theories are so much fun as long as they aren't taken too seriously. The big reason I can't buy into most of them is that they require a level of confidence at the government level I just can't see happening. The number of people that would have to remain silent about faked moon landings, 9/11 involvement, or aliens at Roswell is staggering. Someone would talk to WikiLeaks, just saying. My next comment may even be more controversial. It's in reference to your comments on Bill Watterson, creator of Calvin and Hobbes. I'm currently reading "Against Intellectual Monopoly" by Baldwin and Levine, and it just provided me a different perspective on the issues of an intellectual property, including patents and copyrights. The work is fairly scholarly, lots of footnotes and references. Yeah, this is what I do for fun. The book is available as a free download. Anyway, the anti-IP viewpoint is that once Watterson released the image of Calvin into the market, he doesn't really have any right to say how or for what purposes the image can be used. Current law obviously flies in the face of this, but, and this part is US centric, these laws fly in the face of the constitutional foundations they were based on. A counter-example to Watterson is JRD allowing folks to write fanfic based on his characters. In JRD, you're way too hard on yourself about heck of a job. While I agree that the new ending clears up one small detail, the overall concept of the story came through loud and clear, enjoyable before, even better after. The latest Sergeant Smith's story had a very swenie-toddish feel to it. Glad I wasn't eating when I listened. Also interesting to hear you discuss the busker culture, not something I ever had more than a passing interaction with, and that was just dropping money in a hat. My author spotlight this week is Larry Niven, prolific in the extreme. I'm going to focus on just three of his many works, one of which Ringworld is perhaps his best known and is already in the rumor mill to be made as a movie. Ringworld follows a group of multiracial in the alien, not intro species sense of the word, adventurers, who explore an artificial world that encircles a star like a ribbon. Niven originally conceived of the world as a minimalistic and more realistic version of a dysent sphere. Some really good cinematic potential exists for exotic aliens and locales as the world is explored. Another interesting world is created in Niven's The Integral Trees. Imagine a gas toroid devoid of rocky bodies encircling a star. Within this gas cloud, organic matter has evolved in an ecosystem that doesn't rely on terra firma. And at some point in the distant past, humans explored and ended up colonizing the cloud, living on gigantic trees that float through the cloud. Now, due to a climate change change event, not human cause in this case, the inhabitants of one tree are thrust into cultural changes as well. Excellent opportunity for both action and examination of culture clash. And saving my favorite for last, the moat in God's eye, which Niven and co-wrote with Jerry Purnell examines first contact and what happens when humans face what could easily be described as the ultimate Kobayashi-Maru examination. I think I love this story because there really isn't a good solution to the problem and everyone knows it. The no-in situation for the win. And the alien modis are way cool as well. In some ways, this section is making me sad, so many great imaginative stories, so little of it makes it to the big or for that matter a little screen. Guess that's why we still need books. Looking forward to hearing about the book club. Take care. I can care about the book club. Thanks a lot, Joe. Fantastic call. Yeah, that was great. I rather suspect our politics fall fairly close, although I tried to would discuss them too much. But you go right ahead, honestly. Yeah, not alienating. Not alienating folks seems like a good idea all around. That's my feeling. Yeah, I don't understand. Sam Jackson's version of Go the Fuck to Sleep. Fantastic. Yeah. Now Larry Niven, personal favorite of mine as well, I must say, all of his selections. Fantastic. I have, okay, I feel like there's steps, right? You start with the book, and then if you're lucky, you get to get a film, and then if the film is lucky, then you may end up with a franchise. Although I can't think of something necessarily to that effect. The big jackpot is really making a film script, but I'm thinking of, I don't know, Stargate. I don't know if there was a book beforehand, but being able to branch off into a television series as well, fantastic. But interestingly Ringworld, which is a great little, a great book, the Halo series for the Xbox totally ripped the idea off, and you get to run around on a Ringworld for quite a bit of that game. It's a neat, visually beautiful idea, and I really hope that at some point they do turn it into a film. I think it's right for it. I love Niven's stuff. I can't, I must admit, his sort of known space has definitely had an effect on how I sort of run Flashwarp. You know, of Larry Niven's work, I've always wanted to read Ringworld, but I haven't. And what I've known him for was actually the man Kazin Wars. Have you heard of them? Yeah, absolutely. I love the concept of the Kazin. They're pretty great. These big giant space cats. Interestingly, they were also ripped off for the video game Wing Commander. I don't know why Niven got so much video game coverage. Interestingly, I vaguely recall that the Kazin also showed up on, after the original Star Trek series went on the air, there was an animated series. Yep. And in the animated series, the Kazin, Kazin Niven was writing a few of the scripts, the Kazin showed up. So there's a weird bridge between the two universes, although the way, like, guilty arm and that whole U.N. situation and boot, body part bootleggers, I don't necessarily think they all fit into the Star Trek universe. But anyway, fantastic suggestion. Thanks a lot, Joe. I also love Mooten God's eye because I feel like it's a modern take on some of the Heinlein stuff. I love Heinlein's work, but I don't necessarily agree with his politics, which I think we've mentioned before. And I think that Mooten God's eye is a much more realistic approach to that sort of situation. I saw this interesting listing. I'll try to find it for the notes. It was an ad in an old SF magazine from '68, and it was two lists. One half was authors who had supported the Vietnam War at the time, and the other was a list of authors who denounced the war. And that was very interesting. I wasn't surprised to see where everybody landed. I think Niven, as I recall, was on the denouncing side. Heinlein on the pro, which sounds about right. But anyway, I'll try to find that. It was an interesting list. I have to admit that most of the authors I would continue to be interested in reading were probably on the denounced side, but that's just me. Thanks to everyone who sent something in. You guys can always call something into 206-338-2792 or just email us at mp3. You know we'll be kind. Jessica Mayo, edit it up so that sounds fantastic. Yes. And if you need to do a second calling, we're certainly going to be forgiving. Yes, I'm a lovely editor. She is indeed. If you haven't already noticed. Speaking of, let's move it along to... Are you a dassy? Oh! Oh! So 200 still hasn't happened yet, right? That's right. And my project is still secret. I figure if we waited this long, I'm not going to tell you. Super top secret. Yeah, but there is a mobster, David, so we have... He probably doesn't know it, but now that I mention it, he will. He sent me a file that will greatly help me with my project. And he gave me an option. See, I already had something, but then he gave me a better option, but I can't really decide. Anyways, he knows what's going on, but maybe he'll keep it on the download for me. I'll keep it on the download. Yes, yes. He's important to the mob. You know, there's a lot going on there if you'd like to join, and there is people joining every day. Thank you for doing so. But we maintain you the best can. The flash mob on Facebook, or you can find the link on the showbook. So you will find out about my super secret project that I'm both frightened and very excited about on episode 200. Oh! Never raised you! Speaking of super secret projects, I am slowly plotting along with my own super-zoopit project. Which I am taking photos of regularly. That's true. And it's coming together. It's getting so exciting because like when she was conceptualizing for it, when she's like describing it to me, it sounds like so crazy awesome, and now it's coming. And now, because this is your section, I'm going to let you speak. It's coming, baby. And we're all very excited, obviously. I'm concerned that we're not going to be able to convey the final product properly. But I guess we'll figure that out. You know what? We have that great, great camera that my mom let me borrow. Thanks, mom. She listened. And she graciously let me hear camera. So I've been taking photos of that and babies and lots of other wonderful things. Yes, lots of wonderful things. Like the babies playing harmonica today. Yeah, with Jaredie, but his hair was messy. So I don't know if he'll let me put it online. We'll have to see. I'll wait to ask him why he's in a good mood. Anyway, so yeah, that's what I've been up to. I've been up to making my project my super secret, really secret project. And you'll see it for 200. Maybe we should have some video of you showing it so we can actually, you know, that'd be pretty cool. We could post a video on a mom. Yeah. Yeah, you'd love it. You love it. Love it. I say. Wow, wow, wow, wow. That's my hypnotism. Oh, excellent. Yeah, I'm very hypnotized. Backroom plot. So I wanted to briefly discuss 201, the golfer. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mulligan Smith and the golfer. Yes, I recall. This is one of those ideas that hangs around in the junk drawer forever and finally finds a home after a long time. At our old house, there was a portion of highway that I would walk over fairly regularly. Mm-hmm. And this idea sort of came to me one evening. That is the crux of the story. And I just had no use for it. I wrote it down in my notebook. We kicked around at the in a back end page forever. And then finally I came up with something. What if you were to go? Do you want to come on? Oh, don't ruin the story for people. But yeah. You've been shut down, girlfriend. That's my shit dancing. No, wow, wow. Let's hypnotize again. Wow. It's also been fun to return to writing Ruby. Ruby is a fun one to read. Well, I mean I like to read the Ruby. There's always a lot of emotion in Ruby. Yeah. Mm-hmm. A lot of frustration. Now we know she's gonna die soon. Yeah, that's a little disappointing. Well, yeah. We'll get to that later, but. I tried so hard, Ben. The interesting thing is that the two threads that I'm most interested in writing right now, and it's probably because their story has picked up the most momentum just at the moment is the murder plague and Ruby. But operating two concurrent apocalypse is a little tough. Mm-hmm. No, I can understand that. And I don't want to give anything away, but they're interestingly sort of almost linked, but not really. Anyway, mutter, mutter, mutter. I'm not gonna get into this. Yeah, I suspect there's going to be a lot more Ruby in the near future because the second chapter of that tale has sort of opened up before me and I'd kind of like to run through it. Ruby is handy. And then we may see a return to the murder plague after that. And the thing is that Mulligan, he's always sort of sitting in the wings. If I come up with a good Mulligan idea, it's easy to just kick it out. I want some more wool coffin, but you know what I-- I guess everybody wants to run through it. I am missing the collective. Yeah. Because I always think of them as kind of like homely geeky people who are not to say geeky or homely, but I mean like people who are like basement dwellers. Yes. And they, but they do really awesome stuff like the way they know how to do it. And I think that's really awesome. You know who else I kind of miss? Was it Leroy Jenkins? Leroy Jenkins. Well, all I can say is that I believe all of your theorists will be quenched relatively soon. Although, coffin is another one of those like Mulligan and Blackhall, where if I come up with a good idea, it's easy to do a one-parter or a quick three-parter without having to worry too much about the chronology, but mm-hmm. You almost don't have a need for the chiller and sci-fi aspects anymore, but they're there. That's not true. They're there for you, just in case. Every now and then a good story comes up that I just can't really nail. If I could have special episode eight would have been a chiller, but the thing is I didn't want to include it in the Blackhall universe. I think I mentioned them before, but otherwise it would have been a chiller story. It doesn't maintain any of the main characters. It doesn't really have much to do with anything else. And the sci-fi is the same way. I don't get to do them too often, but the last one I did, the haunted house tale, I really enjoyed that. And I don't think it would have fit in. I couldn't have snugged it in anywhere. Now the other thing is that I can't recall if I've mentioned this before, but there are two other threads that will be added to the Blackhall universe, at least before the... Wow. Like new serials? Yeah. Oh boy. Filling holes in the chronology that need to be detailed. Wow. Um, Joe may one day get some answers as to items like Aggie the Sower by... Yeah right, this is true. Okay, well I think that's a show. Thanks to Jim. As always from relicradio.com. Thank you Jim. Thank you Jim. Retro Jim. Chrono not. Thanks for hosting wiki dot flashpulp.com and flashpulp.com. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, you can find us at flashpulp.com. Color voice mail line at 206-338-2792. Feel free to, you know, hang up, try again if you need to. Or email us text or mp3us2 comments at flashpulp.com. Jessica may as the local talents and musical stimes can be found at maytunes.com. We got to cut that part out. The entire run of flashpulp can be found at Blackhall.com. R.B. is the search bar on iTunes. Flashcast is released under the Canadian Creative Commons attribution non-commercial 2.5 license. [Music] In truth, I've no thought of ever returning you to a baby. I live high from adjoining you. Through me I'm where the up-ending is. This is the last song that I am ending in. Through me I'll be candles and thrills at us at I know why should they cry when they know that I'm glad to go. If the dead dream then I'll be mine for acting you. On the long journey I know why they've left you all. We'll be some way. [Music] [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]
