Prepare yourself for New York, Kar’Wick, secret codes, and some curmudgeoning.
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[music] Hello, and welcome to Flashcast Episode 15. Prepare yourself for New York, Karwick, secret codes, and some curmudgeoning. [music] Tonight we have myself, oh, Pope and Acts, Countess of narration, Jessica May, Oh, Baroness of audio, and J.R.D. Hello. A word farmer. Farmer. He sounds so Canadian. E. Burm-er. Burm-ers. A word famous. It's funny. I don't know if our American friends have noticed, but a lot of times you guys drift into a very Wisconsin-y sort of accent when you think you're talking like Canadians. I understand that we do sound like something. There are especially people from, I would say, Alberta-esque and Newfoundland who have very distinctive kind of verbal patterns, but most of the time when Americans are trying to do Canadians, they end up wandering into Fargo. Yeah, or some Minnesota. Yeah, some Minnesota in there too, yeah. It's that whole... Like, you're talking out of a smaller hole for a mouth. Like, a sort of the sides of it a little bit. It's not bad. Thank you. I try. We had to reinforce the stereotype. Well, this show isn't about... A boot? Oh... So you heard a weird news story the other day. You were mentioning it about that feller with what they're the things in his pocket. The feller. Yeah, well, no, really it was more something I had heard on the radio. I can't even remember what channel it was. They were talking about this guy, Ricky McCormick. No, wait, so let me get this right first. You strung up some sort of tin can phone system in which you had voices coming to you over the air or something. I don't... radio... the shush. There's still such a thing, okay? This guy Ricky McCormick, he was murdered back in June 1999. And they found two notes in his pocket. And they're these weird, crazy, encrypted notes and they have no idea what they said. And they have actually... When I say they, I mean the FBI, they've been working on this case for 12 years. So, why is he so special? Like, why is the FBI involved? Well, the murder was never solved and because he had these two, it wasn't just like some crazy guy. I also believe that it has something to do with the fact that the murder took place in Quantico, I believe. Is that right? Quantico? Or is that where they found his body? It's Quantico. Quantico, Quantico, Quantico. Other than being fun to say, Quantico is where they train FBI agents. Oh... Or at least that's my understanding. I don't know if that's where he was found. But the only lead in the case were these two notes that they found in his pocket. And they weren't able to figure out what these said. It could just be like a grocery list for all they know. But it's clearly a code. They've had people working on it that can find patterns, but they can't quite figure out what it means. And they've had people working on it for 12 years. And they still don't know what it is. And they spoke to the guy's family before. They had said he had been writing codes and stuff ever since he was a little kid. But nobody in his family knew how to dislike Rivem at all. So they're looking for somebody, they've released the letters to the public. So that's what's new about the case? Yeah, you can find them online. I think we can link to the address in the show notes. But you can find them online and they're looking for any leads, anybody who knew him or anybody who knows of this type of code. Because it's something they've never seen before. Okay, the news report must have been out of Quantico, which is how I got my... From the FBI, probably. Yeah, my brain mixed up. Because it was actually found in St. Charles County, Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. Very interesting. Yeah, I thought that was worth actually listening to the radio. That made it worth it. That's a neat mystery. That's so cool that a guy from the FBI hasn't been on it that long. I'm this one guy. Well, this department in the FBI, what do you call them? Cryptologists? Cryptologists. Here we go. Yes, now there's two things about this story though. One, do we know that the notes mean anything? Like they might just be gibberish. But he was a code maker. Why would he have gibberish in the pocket? Because he might be a crazy guy, obsessive code maker, making codes that don't work. I think that that would be... It's so good that I can't break it. I think that would be a parent, if they were to possibly talk to the family or something like that. But the fact... It wouldn't waste 12 years on some crazy dude. The fact that he had been doing these codes since he was a kid, and it's not that he was a crazy psycho since he was a kid, because I think that would be a parent, right? But it might not be relevant what they actually mean, but they want to know what it means, because they've studied the code, and they say that it is, in fact, a code. They've noticed patterns, and unless the guy is crazy crazy crazy crazy. I understand that it's possible to replicate a pattern within a gibberish code. Okay, granted. So, I don't... Anyway, maybe, maybe it's brilliant, but I'm just saying maybe it's like a hobo with a scrap paper in his pocket, who was like... Yes, precisely so. Could be, could be, you never know. I mean, I'm not an American, so I can't really complain, but one would hope that their FBI would not waste so much time and resources. Well, I doubt they're sitting there 24 hours a day for 12 years going. No, I think they are. So, I also heard an interesting news item. Did you know that they banned time-traveled stories in China? You can't tell those stories about time travel in China. Okay, well, give me some rationale. Okay, so apparently there's a new fad in China going on right now, in which it's very popular on, I believe, daytime television, to create essentially romantic tales in which somehow these Chinese citizens are teleported from the current time to the glorious past of China. And in this history, they eventually find somebody and fall in love or whatever. But I think that the government is afraid that this glorious past of China is giving people crazy ideas. Basic feudalism was still a lot better than their current conditions. So, I find that very interesting. And I do want to mention, this is sort of a side thing, but I think it's kind of sad that as an ETH, like as a larger genre, romance is split off, but it used to really be intertwined with the rest of the pulp genres. It was really one of the, you know, and I guess still today, we have like Harlequin romances, no sort of things. The only ladies in your story is Bunny, who's obviously bleeped up. She's no lady. And the Sandra, the wife who goes to constantly wants to kill Will. If only I had- There's another grand in Ruby. You know Ruby has romance? Well, there's no romance there now, but she's a lady. She's a lady. And by the grand, everyone thinks she's crazy, even though she's the only one who has got an eye on things. She has a deep, deeply, she has a deep, meaningful relationship with her husband. Who's- Isn't he dead? No. Oh. Oh, I mean that sounds so- But- Well, he did, or- Anyways, it's- Whatever. I didn't realize- Look at the wiki. Oh wait, that stuff shouldn't be in the wiki. People, why aren't you filling out the wiki more, please? PS, wiki, wiki. wiki.flashpalt.com w-i-k-i.flashpalt.com I'd really appreciate it. It would be fantastic. I noticed some people signed up and then never did anything with their accounts. You know, just throwing a little- Figure it out who you are and where your houses are and your time will come. I'm just saying, "Watch your mail." Speaking of people who signed up for the wiki, and people I appreciate contributing, this isn't quite mail bag yet, but we did get a little item. Uh, from a good friend of the site, Barry, through a little submission our way, which I really appreciate. We're not quite going in a mail bag yet, but I wanted to play this beforehand. Now, the thing is that Jessica May is going to have to drop it directly into the episode, because the background noise is a large part of the situation, and our normal method tends to lose some of the noise quality. Although, frankly, it was tough to hear even in the first place. I really appreciate it, Barry. It was a very cool thing. Hey, guys. It's Barry. Oh, I happen to be in the heart of Manhattan today. I'm right at the station. So I figured I'd call you during the shout-out, and I'm going to hold up the phone and let you hear the station. Didn't that sound lovely? Guys, I hope all of you have a great flash test. I'll call back soon. Thanks, Barry. That's such a cool idea. That's so cool. So that, it did remind me that there was something I wanted to discuss. More than any city in my mind, next to it may be only Los Angeles, New York is definitely the most pulp-related city I can think of. And the weird thing is that, in my mind, there are two New Yorkes. There's the reality of New York, especially today. It's a modern, very clean, by my understanding, Metropolis. It's much more like Metropolis of Superman than it is Gotham, which is sort of my 70s-inspired New York where there's crime on every corner and muggers, and you can't go to Times Square because you're going to die. A lot of guys running around being epic stereotypes. It's one of those cities I've always wanted to go to forever and forever. Yeah, and when are you going to take me there? I'll take you there. Absolutely, but it's odd because the New York in my mind is probably not the New York that exists anymore. And it's because of the popular culture that surrounds it. But yeah, so in my mind, the modern New York is not the same trajectory that originally cooked up escape from New York. Escape from New York was more 70s New York and where that was headed, like this horrible hell hole full of crime. What it could have been. But now it's just been gentrified and I suppose it's law and order in New York. Like that stays relatively on top of things. But even then, I'm sure if you go back to the Michael Moriarty days of law and order, the what's his name, sort of Chris Noth? Is that right? Yeah. Those days, you would still probably get a grimy or portrayal of New York, then even the modern law and order. It's always like some dude in a high cost apartment and his kids gone missing. I don't know, I think later on as things cleaned up, a lot of it was sort of like New York propaganda where it was just everything. It was beautiful and, you know, the really nice parts of New York. Well, I believe that's what they want to sell New York as these days. And maybe Barry can, maybe Barry's going to be, you know. Yeah, maybe it's been the same the whole time and it's just publicity and how it changes. That'd be interesting, but I do believe my understanding is that Giuliani went a long way towards cleaning things up. Yes, that's what I hear. Barry, you being our New York correspondent, tell us how it goes. Don't expect payment. Anyway, so that leads us nicely into mailbag. So also from Barry, a little more previous, he sent me an email because I was complaining about youth culture and how I feel. Kids these days. The kids these days. I don't, it's not that youth culture itself is necessarily the problem, but we have become a society which is predominantly focused on youth culture. And I don't know if that has to do with trying to capture what we've lost. A market share? Well, I almost wonder if it's not like we need to build brand loyalty now because when they get to be 50, they're still going to be watching MTV. I'm sure that's on everyone's mind who's selling anything on a large scale. That's promoting it. Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. And then these days you're spending a lot of money. They have jobs younger and. Yeah, and they also know that it's, you know, they're like kind of an investment. So Barry says youth culture is so prevalent because kids are becoming bigger consumers. Oh my goodness, I hadn't actually read this beforehand. I just wanted it to be a natural reaction, but he seems to feel the same way we do. Thank you, Barry, me and you, like this. They don't save most of their money. It's just disposable income, so companies market to them. That's part of the, that's the part that makes sense. Yeah, they have no expenses other than like their cell phone and nothing. Chirps, yeah, I know. Take old movies, movie stars of the pre-war era and into the 60s were much older than the stars of today. Would Humphrey Bogart be a star today? Who was the Ashton Kutcher of 1936? Well, I'm sure there must have been an equivalent. I'm equally sure there wasn't one of the top names, he wasn't one of the top names of his era. Yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think that we're going to, we are currently in a diaphas where a lot of the people who were known for their talent and not their face are going away. Say what you will about Pacino? I love Pacino. He's not the prettiest dude. He never really has been, but he can act the crap out of a scene. He was really cute and serpico. I think there's always going to be room for his character actors and people who are meant more for their craft and not for their sex. But who? Who? John C. Reilly? Like... Well, like there's Adele in the music world. She's really big right now. I have no idea who that is. She's really popular, I'm sorry that you're everywhere. I like that song. Rolling in the deep. That's a nice song. She doesn't worry about petty things like that, but she... She is not acting like an Arnold. But this is an acting thing. Oh, I was thinking entertaining. I was thinking of people who have to be pretty. Okay, okay. I understand. Fair enough. But I'm saying that especially with a visually focused art, like, acting, filmmaking. You know, you're going to lose your deniros. Oh, don't press me, man. It's already so sad the way film is deteriorated over the years. What I don't get is how adults seed so much of their authority to kids. More and more adults cater to kids. Kids make serious decisions for the family. Of course, kids need to be involved in a family decision, but there has to be a limit. There's a point where, because I'm your father or mother, really is an acceptable answer. And I agree. Well, yeah. And, you know, we certainly try to explain to the children why things are going the way that they do. But I completely agree that they should have a sense of, you know, you are the boss. We are ancient, and we should, you know, know much more. So, therefore, be guiding more than being guided. Well, to the flip side of that, too. And this is something that maybe we don't discuss so much. Having a sense of authority in place isn't just about getting, about learning the right rules for life or whatever, although that's a huge part of it. It's also about, it's also, well, it's not, you know, it's not learning to just be submissive. There's a sense of community in order. Yeah, there's a sense of comfort a child is going to get from knowing that their parent can be trusted to make the decisions and not having to worry about it. So that you don't have to worry about this, great. And it's not just a matter of like, oh, I consider my child more because I let them guide our every, you know, like, they don't know our eight-year-olds have no idea why we need to do things in a particular order in a day. Like, that's for us to know. And if they do ask or if they're whatever, like, we do tell them why. Well, this is why we're doing it this way. And it's reasonable that you didn't think of that, but we do and off or all the time do and to trust us in our decisions. It's okay to ask, but we're right and you're wrong. So sit down, shut it, just kidding. When I first became a teacher, I was told that because I said so was a bad answer. The reasoning was that the children I taught high school needed to be validated and that answer was disrespectful. Um, hmm, I kind of disagree. I think that sometimes people just need to do a suit, like, this is why I'm here. Little, yeah. Well, you know, like, that's they're there and have the knowledge. Like, it would be comforting to know that the teacher could therefore explain themselves, but they don't need to necessarily, right? They have the authority to just say, this is how it is. In fact, never mind that no one cared if the teachers got respect. In fact, the younger teachers love blurring the lines between themselves and the students. I was always a very, very, very informal teacher, but I always made sure that the kids knew I was the authority in the room. Yeah, yeah, I actually had a few experiences also back in high school where we had, you know, cool guy teacher and he blur, he wanted to be, you know, part of the group. Or the guy who was trying to be the cool guy teacher never got respect and there was always people talking and screaming and then he left on sick leave. Maybe that was just my school, but that's usually how it went down. Yeah. But yeah, oh, communications class. We all have one of those. Yeah. I do think because I'm your father slash because I said so, as a poor answer, but certainly not a bad one. It is poor because if it doesn't get to the root of anything, doesn't provide information, but it is perfectly acceptable because it says, I am the authority, you need to respect me, I have the power here. I agree. I had preferred a teacher man to fish, but if I've got five seconds and you need to be quiet, then just listen to me. Yeah, exactly. Bottom line, what the teacher parent says goes, it reinforces the rules and positions. Truthfully, there doesn't need to be an explanation. As in life, you do what your boss says. By the way, that doesn't mean that there should not be an explanation. It just means there doesn't have to be one. Yeah, like, I think in regards to parenting, you definitely, like, are quite often, I want to say the why and the how because you're teaching them how to, you know, how to do it whereas as a teacher, it's more black and white, it's not, you know, it's not a matter of reading a situation, it's correct answers versus incorrect answers. Agreed. But yeah, I completely, I completely agree with you. Look at the outrageous successes on networks like TLC, where they glamorize spending literally millions on a birthday party for a spoiled kid. Oh, I can't, okay. You like watching this? Yes. And I can't not, okay. I don't want to make you angry, Barry. But my super sweet 16 is kind of like, I'm closeted me in the sweet 16. Like, it's so, I mean, if they're grateful and adorable, I think they're not grateful, the net of them are grateful. They're looking for shiny things. I know, I know, I know that I shouldn't like it. I know I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm bad. I'll stop doing it. I don't do it much, I don't do it often. Did you guys listen to my audio boo the other day, where I swore off emoticons? Really? Really? Why? Oh, come on. Yeah, I cut them all out because I feel like it was a crutch, and I'm a writer. And if I have to use a crutch that is that ridiculous, then that's pretty silly. You're such an old man. So the time is my god. No, I just mean that I should be able to convey my meaning without having to rely on symbology. I don't include- I think it's nice. Every time I say something that's meant to be touching to you, I don't need to include a tiny picture of a cat. A tiny cute kitten in a bucket full of sunshine. I don't need to- I'd like to know if you're smiling at me. Why won't you smile at me? Also, as part of this emoticon thing, I cut off my lips. What about your eyebrows? They no longer- That's their breath and emotion. No, it's just they're open. We can just see your teeth. Okay, here's the deal. That's a hideous- I cut out emoticons online. I will mail you letters. With the individual emoticons that I cut out. So those will simply be letters full of smiley faces or frowny faces. Yes, that always went on. And society columns are filled with the antics of the rich, but it does filter down so that five-year-olds have cell phones. Why? People go into debt so they can pay their iPhone bill. I know it seems like I'm a bit off track. These are mostly problems of the young. Why is this a lot to go on? Because people want to sell you stuff, and that's more important than trying to- That's why you need strict parents, man, to tell you how and why you should do stuff. I can't explain the permissive society. It is all mixed up in the larger issue of how societies change in the last few generations. There's a clear difference in attitudes pre-imposed World War II. Now, I agree, but with a caveat. If you look at something like the Bowery Boys, you would slap the crap out of those guys if you ever ran into those kids in the street. Those drunk, like literally like 13-year-olds wandering out of the beer in their hand and just cussing out anybody. I mean, obviously it was a movie and it was meant to be whatever, but I believe it was reflective of a certain period. And there is a certain amount of thinking that our generation is the apocalyptic worst one. Yes, but it's just different and it's going to be drastically different each time. It's so drastically different than the generation before us. Well, I think as long as there's progress, but people got smarter. You don't get drunk when you're 13. I think there's a certain level. Some of us don't, but I know what you mean. But yeah, our eight-year-olds have iPod touches. They're carefully restricted in what they can do with them. And what's on them. And their homework has to be done first and they have to practice their instruments and all that other stuff has to be done first. But I completely understand the mentality of just getting what you want way too young and without understanding the depth of what you're receiving or the responsibility of it. I don't know how, yeah. No, I agree largely with everything that Barry said. I'm not sure how we delved into ornery, ornery commudgeon cast, but let's see what else is in the mailbag. Hey guys, it's Ray. Just listen to your flash cast 14. Hi Ray. I've met my whole in a radio sense. And that's kind of how I listen to your episodes along those lines. But anyway, I can't imagine that would be easy to pull off by using kind of custom-made sounds for everything. Like I would imagine you would need some kind of like stock footage for specific sounds, like gunshots. I agree. And I can't imagine something like pulling off a car work sound being easy to do once, much less than any times, but I just think like having some stock footage would leave you guys more energy to put more effort into the ones that you really want to make. Yeah, nailing the few. But anyway, I'm talking way too long, so I'll talk to you guys soon. Bye. That's a good point. That wasn't too long. That was about the right length. I don't, I mean you go over two minutes and that's probably a little long, but he was like just over a minute. I think people tend to think they're talking more than they are. Yeah, they're like, oh my god, I need to be stopping. Oh, how long have I done this? But no, that completely makes sense. I think having like, maybe not even having too many of them might be handy, you know, because then if you could nail down a few really good ones. But it all depends. Apparently you sent me some mail because you actually wrote in some fully into one of our last episodes, and I never actually got the memo. So yeah, it has none where there should be. Unfortunately, the fully was and apparently you want. Oh man, maybe I should wait for an audacity for it. Never mind. You're saying it. On that note, we're going into mine. Why? Okay. So you would mention that another sound effect or sound cue that you would like in the future is when there's like seeing changes or whatever. Yeah, that we would put a musical break, just a very small interlude. A few notes or, you know, a couple bars of something to indicate that. Now I must confess, I do have a concern. What is the concern? Do you recall? Do you recall as a child having books possibly that came with records or even cassette tapes, although in my youth, it was records. Yes. Yes. And at the end of each page, it would go, "turn the page now." Or whatever for it to be some sort of very jarring voice. If you were doing a Star Wars one, it'd be like R2. So you're afraid that it'll, but what if it does sound like that to some people? Like this is what we're going for. I can't help but think of the Batman. Yes, see, I'd prefer some sort of, I want the association to be Batman-esque or Transformers-esque, not. No, we shouldn't, we should have the same one running through each story. We should have a few different ones and have people vote on them. I think that's what we should do. It's very minor. Are you asking me to set something above the site or what's your situation here? How do you intend on voting? We'll have a voting system, we'll have like three different audio, interlude clips, and people can say, "I like this one." Okay, I agree in general purpose with this idea, but we will give better details at some point in the near future. How does that sound? How often does it really happen? Quite often. Yeah. I mean why don't you just do like something that's suitable to the story? Like they're going to- No, I kind of like these occur. Because what my fear is, is that people are going to hear some strange noise, think that somehow associated with the story or something that they missed and be like, "What the hell is this sound about?" So if it's something like, "No, no, no," where they know easily what that sound means, that it's not going to take them out of the story. That's my feeling as well. So, a Pope, you're wrong, I'm sorry, but again, geez, you dropped the ball. God did. Yeah. I think the idea of being consistent is a good one. Yeah. Okay. Decided. Make it happen, everyone. I'm not. I have nothing to do with this. You've got to now go find a bunch of sounds. Yeah, I know, it's my- I figured if I'm trying to make you do it, maybe you would, and then I would have less to do. Speaking of things I have to do, this would be a good time for- "Back through watch." I really only want to discuss one story today. It was the one we just completed. Even though it was only- It's only been up in the evening. I'll try to avoid breaking too much of the story for anybody who hasn't read it, but it was a car work tale. I do try to leave some clues when it's a car work tale. The album of art slash story art associated on the blog site is always- or on the blog, I mean, is always of car work to sort of give you a hint that this tale is going to end with basically the same as every other tale with him in it. But I hope, again, I don't get a lot of feedback about the car work stories usually, and in a weird way, they're often the most- I don't want to say literary, but they kind of tend towards a little more experimental often, and then they end suddenly in apocalypse. Now, while I kind of find this amusing, I understand that it- It might be very annoying to some- It might be frustrating to others. Mum, my mother, first, when she was listening to her story, she's like, "But they're short, and they end in a way that makes me feel funny." Like, just- that's not- she likes a happy ending, and that's, you know, there is something about- Or an end- Starting a story, knowing that it's going to end in devastation, and you take the time to really set the scene and make you care about everybody, but everyone has that looming doom that- And a few moments these people will be dead. Or sometimes I hope, you know, like, maybe just a certain part- like, certain person in the story, like, the bad guy. He's going to get it, but the good guy, but really, like, he's car-wick, he's a spider-god. If he's going to squish you, he's going to squish the guy next to him. You understand? No, I clearly don't. All of the car-wick tales take place at the same time. Although they're all different places, they all take place at exactly the same- Holy crap, I never would have thought of that. Second. No, no. So it's like the same people- because I- I'm certain he's large. He's extremely large, actually pro-tip. There's technically more than one spider that makes up car-wick. He is- he's sort of like a hive-god. But he- all of- That is horrifying. I know. All of- I know. All of the egg sacks first at the same time. And so all of- This is where I need to vomit. All of the car-wick stories take place at exactly the same instant. Well, that's not true. I mean, the historical parts don't necessarily, but the part where car-wick shows up, you could draw- I'm itchy. You know, it's at exactly the same time. I'm getting very uncomfortable. Puppies and kittens and all of the cars. It just moved away from JRD on the couch. Is it the phrase egg sacks bursting? Is that what does it get? Yes, and that many spiders make up spiral-wick, spiral-wick. The car-gods. The car-god? That's a different story entirely. That's a guy- If only we had the car-god with all this- Oh, I know. There's a lot of screaming going on here. I'm going to have to reduce in a little while. So, yeah, I was wondering if people wouldn't mind emailing me at skinner@skinner.fm and just let me know, do the car-wick endings annoy you? Do you, do you, like, avoid them specifically? Do you just delete them off your iTunes? You will now with the bursting egg sacks. Yeah. Well, we're far off from, actually. You're never far off from a bursting egg sack when car-wicks are in. Would it help if I just labeled them like the other stories? Because it is kind of jerkish of us to- I didn't know that you didn't label them. No, I don't, actually. Everybody else has sort of a methodology for, you know, coffin. No, no, no. I kind of like that they're unlabeled because the chiller ones are unlabeled as well. So you're never quite sure. Unless you actually go to the site and you see the picture, you're not sure. It could end horribly. Or they might just move away and leave their baby close to home. Yeah, that's exactly it's the chiller and the science fiction. Neither of them get labeled. Yeah. And I do it on purpose because I want them mixing up the car-wick so the people aren't quite sure. I like it that way. Okay, well, maybe I'll keep it that way unless I get a wave of angry death threats. So let's move into the art of narration. So tomorrow we're going into a murder plague episode and I was wondering because in the last episode I introduced five new characters and I don't think that I gave them all dialogue. I was wondering what kind of process. I guess do you just go back and listen to the old episode when you're boning up or? Yes, I do. If you're aware that they've come around, that's happened before where we have somebody with two different voices. Yeah, I can't think of- Not at the same time. When that's happened, when does that happen? Oh, there was a lady in a story recently. You're like, oh, she was through the war. She sounds like Jessica Simpson. That's not- Oh, yes, but that was kind of insider- insider information. That was inside baseball. That 'cause they're good geeks and we should. The return of Veronica in- I believe her name was Veronica Vanessa, the return of Vanessa. For a certain beloved chiller episode. Mom has got a number two. We say that all the time around now. In fact, I was just doing it. Not the number two. Talking about it. Yeah, like that. The name of that episode, I believe Bering, was that correct? And see, sometimes I change the names right before we go to airtime so I get confused. A lot of the times they're just something really simple and descriptive for me so that I know what the episode's actually about. But yeah, she reappeared in the second portion of the less collective detective tale we did. But as I didn't know about that until the episode was already recorded. Yeah, absolutely not your fault. But it is technically anybody who wants to cite this in the wiki at wiki.flashball.com can use Flashcast 15 as your source that it is the same Vanessa despite the changing voice. Yeah, and you can use that against us. Because he would never reuse a name because he's like that. If we record, and we see, you know, two words that are the same, too close together, then we're re-recording. Maybe she had speech lessons. Yeah, maybe she married somebody under false pretenses and she needed to sound smarter. No, she didn't judge her. She was dead. No, maybe the accent. Okay, no, here's here's the deal, okay. She was in the witness protection program. She had to talk like that. She was just putting on the accent. Yeah, yes, yes. Don't put that in the wiki, please. I know. She had a work voice. She was an area work voice. Her work swears. Her business voice. Stupid clams and their dancing monkeys. If you have comments, questions, or suggestions, you can find us at skinner.fm. Call our voice mail line at 206-338-27 or email us text or mp3s to skinner.fm. Sorry? Don and Drew, they had a 206 number. I always wanted to scream out what the next part is because it's so inappropriate for the campus show. Jessica made his vocal talents and musical stylings. Can we found at MayTunes.com? Technically. Opoponax's artistic work and general updates can be located at opoponaxfeathers.wordpress.com. The entire right of Flashbulb can be found at flashbulb.com or via the search bar and iTunes. 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