Hello, and welcome to FlashCast episode thirteen – prepare yourself for the site move, vacation time, Tom Jones, the Dance of the Urbanite, and the Murder Plague.
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(upbeat music) - Hello and welcome to Flashcast episode 13. Prepare yourself for the site move, vacation time, Tom Jones, The Dense of the Urbanite, and The Murder Plague. (upbeat music) - Tonight we have myself, Opoponax, Illustration and Narration, Jessica May. - Hello. - Audio production and conduction, and JRD. - Hello. - Lettermasher. - So we watched Paranormal Activity 2 last night. - Yep, we've been wanting to for a very long time, but as like any other movie, it takes a very long time for us to watch them. That, and it's scary, so that takes doubly long, especially for Opoponax, 'cause she's a baby. - Well, it's not even so much because I'm a baby, although it's partially because I'm a baby. It was more to do with the fact that there was a baby involved, and that's what bothered me. - But we were pre-warned that the baby would be okay. - There were still two scenes in the movie that made me so upset for the baby that I cried, while clinging to JRD's arm, and not looking. So yeah, we finally got to it yesterday. We all sat down, we tried the day before, but something happened. What happened the day before? - We were busy. - We were in the kitchen, and then all of a sudden all the cupboards flew out. - Oh no. - Then we ripped off a couple of other scenes from Poltergeist, and then. - It was a little Poltergeisty, and the end was a little-- - Ridonculus? - Yeah, it's sort of nullified only. I don't really want to say too much about the movie. Other than, I think it's totally watchable. - It was a solid four out of 10. - Yeah. - I did not, like it was okay, but it was, compared to the first one, they just seemed like all of the fright gags were ripped off the first one. The tension they built on the first one was fine for what it was, but you can't put out a sequel and have it be essentially the same film over again. And then have it culminate, and the ending scene was just so disappointing, like the whole situation there. It was so stapled on, it felt like. It felt like maybe they'd even ended with the sort of false ending originally, and then they're like, "Ah, this doesn't test very well." - Yeah, because I recall the ending, she dying. The sister. So when she started coming around-- - The ending of the first one. - Yeah, so she coming around to the second one. - Well that's because of the version of paranormal activity we saw was the-- - It wasn't the theatrical version. - Original. - Mm-hmm. - 'Cause we actually came around and you kept trying to figure out how the story is kind of intertwined. And it worked, they did okay, but I was expecting more, you know, like the same, in the same sort of vein, but with a bigger budget and, you know, more money to spend on the script and time. - To me, as soon as you started attempting to backfill lore, it's just entirely, if they had come up with the sort of mythology they tried to insert. - Yeah, oh, remember back when we were kids. - Remember that stuff we did that. - That wasn't mentioned on the first movie. - There was really neat effects that they used that like I was really impressed by. - Yeah, like when the mobile stops so suddenly. - You were impressed by-- - Even though it had fiddly bits. - Yeah. - And the same thing with the pots and things like that, but, and you know, the way that she would fall down and be pulled, I couldn't really see anybody doing that. - Oh, that was-- - But that was a small way to gag from the first one though. That was something they did all the time in the first. - Yeah, the things that didn't set in front of a bitch, though, that's an entirely different thing. - That's exactly it. I thought, oh my God, who's looking after the baby? That was my big, you know, nobody's watching the baby. - Yeah. Yeah, and that seemed kind of cheap and so, yeah. Yeah, so there was cool parts, but the fact that there was a lack of story and the ending kind of sucked, that it kind of pulled me away from the cool bits. So, but it was a pretty busy week, otherwise. - Yeah. - After last week's also pretty busy week. - Oh, actually, I had something really interesting happened to me at the bank the other day. And I wanted to actually talk about it today because I thought it was just so wicked cool. I was just there on regular, you know, whatever bank business, but there was a guy that came in after me and I could kind of over hear what he was talking about and it was so crazy cool. It's this guy named, like, he's a 15 year old kid and his name's Chase. And what he does is he brings in all his paper money to the bank and he trades it for like rolls of dimes and quarters and stuff. And so I asked him why, 'cause I thought, you know, what is he doing with all these coin rolls just sitting at the bank going through them all. And what he does is gambling addict. Yeah, he's a gambling addict. It's really sad. No. He's really addicted to zingy zaps, those little candies that you get out of the rotating machines. Yeah, that's exactly, no, really though. He's looking for coins that come from 1968 or earlier because he told me the ones that were minted, I hope I've got everything right, but the ones that are minted in '68, they were 50% silver instead of all nickel. Okay. And the ones that were made in mid '67 and before have 80% silver in them. I love that it's mid '67. Yeah, they stopped mid year. Okay. But they're 80% silver. So what he does is he, I guess the ones that aren't of that year or earlier, he just puts those back into paper money, but the ones that are, he keeps those and half of them he keeps for himself and half of them he swaps with collectors and stuff and he can actually get $2 for a 10 cent coin from that period and like $5 for a quarter. And nobody else has really caught on this or the banks are not really, it's not worth their time or something. I don't know. And I was just amazed. This guy is like 15 and I said to him like, if I knew that when I was 15, I would probably have more money. But he keeps like half of it for himself 'cause he knows that it's gonna be worth more later. And a lot of people would know that, or could know the trick, but just not have the gumption to actually do that. Yeah, well, I want to know, like where did he find out about that? I should have asked him. He should call in or something, be awesome. Some grandfather who earned his wealth. Yeah. And he's surfing like going through nickels. Yeah, so I asked him if I could ask a couple of questions. That's awesome. Metal scarcity freaks me out 'cause it's kind of a sign of the end times to me. If we run out of metal, what are we like anyway? Weirdness. Interesting. I think I'm so totally cool. Yeah, like imagine what he does the next, like the next thing. Yeah, you're doing this when you're 15. Yeah, call me what, then tell me what you're doing when you're 16. Yeah, we hear stocks. Let me know about your stocks when you're, tell me who to buy with. You know, actually, maybe if Chase happens to listen to this and calls in, that's fine, but 'cause I know you did mention the show to him briefly. Yeah. But I have to say, Chase, that this sounds like the opening of a con where the next phase is to be like, hey, I happen to have, you know, 1067 coins right here. I'll sell them to you half price. So you want to give me 20 and I'll give you this 50 cents. Yeah. He's a grifter. 50-year-old grifter. Yeah, that's fantastic. Just drifting from bank to bank, making small change and buying coffee. Yeah. Anyway, we have a bit of a dog problem, so let's pause before mail time. (tinkling) Uh, we got a mail here from Three Day Fish. Hello, Free, Free Day Fish. Free Day Fish. Free Fish for Three Days. In answer to your question about your latest murder plague tale, this is regarding Flashcast 12. I hardly even recognize the beginning as a recap. I think it was necessary and you did it in a way that made it seem like part of the character and not a literary technique. And now for your other question concerning the chronology of stories. I like the uniqueness of each story of our chronology. Knowing that they're all the same universe makes the whole experience of learning about each other. Do you know? Uh, Borgesian. Borges, Borgesian. Borgesian. Borgesian. South American, uh, magical realism. He's an author. Anyway, if you are looking for a unified way for all your stories to occur, I tend to enjoy multi-parters, black hole especially. Always listening, Three Day Fish. Well, thanks. We really appreciate your comments. I was actually pretty pleased with, and I'm glad that you didn't feel it was a big recap 'cause I'm fairly happy with how that three-parter for the murder plague came out. I was really stuck for quite a while in that situation 'cause I feel like, I can't remember if I mentioned this last episode or not 'cause I was so sleepy for episode 12, but this is sort of the start of chapter two for Harm Carter. I consider him departing his daughter's sort of nest as the end of chapter one. This moves us into the next phase where we actually start to see a little bit more of the world and it's not just all hanging out and harming the layers. Killing his neighbors. Yeah. In the suburbs. And we get to sort of move into, well, not to give too much away, but we move into a bit of an Agatha Christie mode for the next few stories, but. Yeah, well, so many, so many people together and they don't even know how the virus is contracted yet. I mean, what was Alyssa? That's the one, Alyssa. I mean, how long has she been with them, right? How did she get it? So we're going to discuss that. We're going to get into the details of the functioning of the plague and how that occurs. Mm-hmm. I'm glad that people can follow along with the jumping around, sorry, not to also jump around, but I'm glad people can follow around with the, just switch up in the different chronologies. Especially with Mulligan, I just want to have the freedom to sit down and plump a story in there and not worry too much about when it takes place. And, you know, he lived a good long life as far as I'm concerned. It's just a snapshot, you know. It's a little harder with Blackhall who has a timeline, right? Yeah, he's on a very specific quest and going in a very specific direction. Although we haven't... - Discussed specifically the journey he's on? - Well, yeah. We haven't necessarily exactly addressed his situation with Mary too much, but the truth is that there's a sort of second half to Blackhall's life that we haven't really achieved and there's sort of a cusp moment that we need to deal with sometime in the near future that will eventually move us into that second phase. I'll actually kind of come back to that in a few minutes 'cause I know we get a comment down the way that addresses a point that I wanted to touch on, but in the meantime, first I wanted to dish on this with something Barry said. This was directly after episode 12 was released and if you may recall it was called Tom Jones. I had no idea Tom Jones would come up this week. Sorry, I'm not doing my Barry voice. I don't really remember how to do it properly. Had I known I would have called in with a Tom Jones story, sort of. Many years back, my friend Mark and I joined a gym. Most days we'd walked in, take a look around and head back outside for lunch at the pizzeria who we know next door. Needless to say, not much was accomplished at the gym. However, on the days we worked out, we never failed to get a good laugh from one of the safety stickers on the machines. It had a silhouette of a man and for some reason we felt it looked exactly like Tom Jones. Upon seeing the sticker, he and I would look at each other and go, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, oh, that was no pussy cat." Just like the refrain after, "What's a new pussy cat?" Eventually that was replaced by, "It's not unusual." - Do you love doo doo doo doo doo doo doo? - Oh, of course neither of us sounded like either Tom Jones or anyone else who ever sang. And no one else had any idea what we were doing. Today, Mark is an indie singer, songwriter and of course I give up credit for success to Tom. - Of course. - Very nice, nice little Tom Jones related tale. And I'm just actually going to segue directly from that into Barry did leave a followup series of questions for this episode. - Oh, lovely. - He was asking me kind of directly. You post a lot and even your non-pulp pieces seem to require decent Barry research. How much daily effort goes into the blog? - All of it. - Yeah, yeah. Well, process is what saves me again here. I tend to, as soon as I have an idea, I chunk it into the blog back end where I save it as a draft and usually I can kick out a couple hundred worries just from whatever the original nugget was. A lot of the research conveniently is stuff that I come across while reading up on other stuff for the episodes or sometimes work related stuff or sometimes just random things that I happen to run across. - Yeah, like okay, naturally you're a very smart dude but then you're pretty awesome on the internet for searching and finding. And then you spend, I don't know, a good portion of time. I think it's like at least an hour for a post, right? Are you focusing on that? - Yeah, I would definitely say it's probably about an hour post. - And you always like to do that before you start your flesh pulp writing, right? - Ah, yes, the blog. But then, you know, that's not necessarily an hour in one sitting, that's often, you know, half an hour or 45 minutes of sitting and then another 15 minute tweak up or it gets shifted around. - There's edits, you'll get people to read it and people won't interrupt you, you know, things will happen, babies will meet them. - Things can't go down on the weekends. A lot of weekend time gets absorbed both by flash pulp and by blog stuff. - And the rest by babies. But it's all for the empire. - On top of that, the work your co-conspirators do to get the podcast done, what would you say production time for you, Jessica, on a weekly basis or even on an episodic basis? - If it's, like I already have the music for the episodes, it's just a matter of like whipping it all together. Um, there's the time I sit there to record it, but basically probably takes me less than half an hour now, 25 minutes, maybe even less. - For the edit phase. - Yeah, for the editing phase. - But there's like, okay, there's maybe five or 10 minutes to set up and then there's the recording which takes maybe 15 minutes, right? - Yeah, so probably, you know, 20 minutes for recording and stuff and then maybe another 20 for edits. And then if it's finding a new song, you know, generally that's been pretty easy lately and figuring out new edits has been pretty good, really. Like, I'm pretty good finding natural ends to the music and it's all going pretty well before. It would take me quite a long time to figure out what I want to do or have it fade in a certain way and it was just, you know, constantly re-editing and re-editing, but now it's, I don't know, I'm awesome. What can I say? It just comes so easily. - When you're doing the edits and read through for an episode, how long would you say that, Techie? - Well, I mean, like Jess said, I mean, for the actual reading, it's usually no more than 15 minutes, but otherwise, I don't know, the editing, if you cut out interruptions 'cause generally they'll be, you know. - Who's going on the stairs? - Yeah, you'll finish the writing and I'll read it and you'll be off doing something else and then when you're done doing something else, you'll come back and look at the corrections and I'll be off doing something else and you'll let me know. So it takes place like throughout the evening, but I'd say if you were to squash it down and, you know, if we were to just pass back and forth, I'd say it would take no longer than 40 minutes for a read through and an edit and another read through and another read through and then we're done. So basically, okay, so if we were to start from like point A, like well, you would say, I'm done the story, right? I'm ready for edits. What's the thing that you always say when you're ready? - I've sent you the script. - I've sent you the script. So you say, okay, and then you grab your computer. You're a MacBook Pro and you find a quiet place or you try to do it wherever you are, but then, you know, you can't get into it. - Doesn't know, it's weird. - 'Cause it's pretty thick reading, like, it's pretty. - It's not so much that it's thick reading, it's that you have to catch all the details. - Yes, yes, and you are very detailed oriented, but, you know, if you don't, you need focus. - If you don't read it the way, like, if you don't grasp it the right way of the first time, then you don't necessarily read it right and you don't get the right meanings. So sometimes I'll go to JRD and say, "Well, this sounds weird, I don't understand." And he'll say, "Well, no, you're just saying it wrong." And then he'll tell me like how he hears it in his head and I'll be like, "Oh, okay." So you put the emphasis on this word instead of this word, well, that means something entirely different. - Yeah, well, sometimes it's a missing comma even. - Yeah, exactly. So then you do the first editing process and then like, so when you're done the first edit, like the first read through and you find out all your errors. So you say, "I've done the edit." What is it that you always say? 'Cause you always, you guys always say the same. - I've done the first edit. - Okay. And then you go back to it when you can JRD, right? Usually you're off working out or something. And then you get the second edits? - Yeah, he'll get those done and I'll take them about like five, 10 minutes or whatever. And then I'll read it through again. And sometimes we're ready to go right away. Sometimes there'll be a second round of edits and then he'll do those again. And I'll read it through again and then we'll go. - Yeah, and then we go down to the booth under the stairs. - And then you tend to read one more time through while I get the first edits done, the music bits that come in before you initially start talking. - 'Cause we do it in two parts. So we'll do the first part right up to written by JRD skinner, aren't in aeration, biopopokinetics, and audio produced by Escamé. (laughing) - And then usually at some point you'll find one or two additional things where you're like, "Oh, go get 'em, go get 'em. There's something that's wrong." - Yeah, and then I'll just yell from under the stairs. - JRD! - And then we're generally ready to go. Do a couple edit, like a couple sound tests, make sure that everything's good to go and then you close the door, stick the cord under, lay on the carpet, and we press record, and then-- - So we answer a lot, which takes a lot of time. It takes maybe a kind of ridiculous amount of time, but on the other hand-- - We're dedicated people. - And, you know, we enjoy working on a project together. - Yeah. - It's a fun thing to do. So, Barry continues, and to follow, with a bit of sad news, actually. Oh, it's not the end of the world, I mean, he's just announcing that he's taken a bit of a vacation, but in a follow-up, as you'll see later tonight in my site, this is later tonight, as of the writing, which I believe was yesterday. I am taking a week off for peace of mind. - Wow. - I'm doing a theme week of best of, so to speak. Best of my movie reviews, some of which date back several years and have barely seen the light of WordPress. I have a back inventory of 450 blogs. - Whoa! - Check out my index, so I can pull out a lot that people likely haven't read. Do you ever just want to walk away from it all for a while? And do you see yourself taking any time off? - Oh, thank you so much, Barry, for the question. 'Cause we all would love to know the answer when we're all getting a vacation. Yeah, there are many children that crawl all over us, but yeah, having just the children call all over us. - Yeah, and not the flash-pop crawl all over us. - Yeah, so answer Barry's question. - The worse the script, the more I consider walking away, but vacation time. Get back to work. (laughing) This isn't for the podcast, just for my edification. What are the advantages of moving away from WordPress? And I'm mentioning it on the podcast. I hope that's okay, Barry. Oh, wait, we should mention BMJ2K.com. We should be pushing that. I don't know if I mentioned this. - Yeah, Barry, BMJ2K.com. - BMJ2K.com. BMJ2K.com, Wesley. I'm mentioning it mostly here because moving is a large part of what took up my timeline the last week. Oh, I should mention though, on the blog, a post that, like, some posts will take me an hour to kick out and I'll really be gnawing on it and just trying to get it perfect. And sometimes you just have that lightning in a bottle and you manage to nail it in 15 minutes and you feel like you really pulled out something solid, so that's another tough one. It's tough to really judge how long it's going to take. - But usually you're fairly insecure and you want somebody to read it and tell you that it's good. Is it good enough? Is that all right? - Well, tell me, if you were just like, you know, just regular Joe, come to the site, not like somebody who's like already supportive of me, would you like it? And we always do. - Don't show my weakness to the public. (laughs) - You're a smart man. You have no weakness. - But the advantage is moving away from WordPress. Seems mostly to be work, more work with Little Upside. And then he mentions that he's not entirely happy with his own site hosting, which frankly I understand. - No one ever really is. - But the, well, some of the, okay, some of the advantages we're getting out of the move. One, I can cut back a little bit on some of my blog time 'cause I can move back to using audio booze for some of my, I'd like to get back into audio booography, which is sort of an ongoing series I had going. - It was nice to have something a little different. - Ongoing series I had. Man, I can't say it anyway. But yeah, it was nice to have something where I could just kick it out in five minutes and have a thought and just transcribe that straight to tape or whatever you want to call it and not have to think about it too much. And I don't really necessarily like posting up personal things in text. People who click through to the audio booographies tend to be the people who care a little more. So I don't mind maybe sharing a little bit more of my personal aspect of them. You know, drunk at neighbors and whatnot, that kind of content that gets thrown in there. Anyway, the other advantages, we can start charging. And I hope that people won't be mad, but we're going to put ads up on the site. They're not going to be intrusive. They're probably not even going. Most people I think probably won't even notice because I think basically anybody who's used to using the web at this point automatically has blinders on for web ads. - Some sort of filter, yeah. - Yeah, well, not even necessarily like-- - No, there's those, but-- - Yeah, not even a technology kind of solution. - A psychic filter. - Yeah, they just don't pay attention to it. I don't look at ads. I go, oh, there's ad space in my mind and just blind spots it. - But it would be handy making some money off of all of this effort. - Well, it would be handy to at least break even 'cause we, although Jim of relicradio.com has been very kind in providing some server space for us. - Agreed, thank you. - We still host all of the MP3s for the episodes. - Yeah, there is a cost to what we do. - Yes, we host them on Libsyn, who have been actually considerably better with their hosting recently, but I'm very pleased with that. So there is a small cost per month. We're a little bit in the hole, but not bad. And it would also be nice. I'll mention here to sort of see if there's any audience feedback for it. I've been considering compiling a list of the, well, not a list, but a PDF of the episodes for e-reader use and selling like a 99 center buck 99 PDF or whatever format works best for Kindle. - Yeah, it'd be nice. - Not per story, but for a grouping of how many stories? - I was actually thinking the first 99, I was gonna call it something like 99 bottles or something. - For 99 cents. Well, we have like nearly 150 episodes now. - Yeah, I feel like we're gonna do something with that catalog. - And imagine how great the stories would be if JRD didn't have a day job. - That would definitely be kicked up. - Although we've discussed this in previous episodes as well. - Yeah, we will get there. This is, well, not phase one. Phase one was getting the stories out there, which I think we've done swimmingly. This is phase one point Lynn. - I'm trying to think of any other advantages that the WordPress site gives us. There's just a lot more general control to how things work. - The stats are pretty awesome too. - The visual appearance. - By region and... - Yeah, moving to Google Analytics in general is a nice thing. - Okay, well, that's all the mail for now. Let's move into Backroom Plus. - Thank you for the mail. - Thanks, three-day-fishing-berry of BMJ2K.com. - Absolutely, and enjoy your vacation and... - Don't stress. - And consider me when you're on vacay 'cause I am not. - And never will be... - Backroom, what? - Last week, we concluded the arc of the murder plague that we were working on. And... - It was a three-parter, right? - Yeah, a three-parter, but we kind of got a little laggy with the last part and ended up dragging over to Monday 'cause of last week's super stress. - But, you know, things like that just never happen, so don't expect that in the future. - Yeah. - Anyway, so I was very pleased to see that end. Like I said, it felt like the beginning of the second chapter of the murder plague going to get only more interesting from here. I can, at least in my opinion. - As harm ventures out into the world of slaughter. - With friends. - Mm, slaughter. - Friends in a variety of slaughter. But this coming week, we have a return to fan favorites, the collective detective. - Very nice, very nice. - I believe that you feasibly have a bit of theme music you have selected. - I don't know. Perhaps you should wait 'til audiodacity of hope. - Oh, you are correct. - Hello. - So I'm pleased to be moving through these murder plague episodes because I feel like this might... This is almost the episode. These are almost the episodes that should have been the first episodes that will help explain. - The workings of the collective detective, right? - Correct. - Yeah. - So yes, this coming week will explain the various levels of the collective detective and we'll delve into how the different tiers work, which I'm pretty excited about. - So how come you didn't start with that? Did you just wanna jump in and kind of give people a taste without much explanation or? - Well, the truth is that having, if you had jumped maybe directly into this, it wouldn't have... You got a little bit of a taste and you had a bit of a general understanding but you don't necessarily jump right into the manual without understanding what the... - The inner workings of like the Salvation Army, their secret army. You know what? - They all live underground and they have nuclear weapons and they're coming to dominate us. - I know that they all have special ranks and stuff and special attire based on their rank. - And they're only allowed to marry each other, right? - Weird, really? - No. - No, I'm pretty sure they are. I'm not 100% but weird. - Do they all have to wear each clothing? - Betroving. - Man, I have a bunch of questions about the collective detective but I guess I should actually... We'll talk about it next week after we delve in a little deeper. - Running some of the answers. - Yep, so... - I'm green. - Watch for that coming out this week. - I'm excited. Is a three-parter a murder plague? - Three-parter a murder plague. - No, yeah. - Closest detective. (laughs) - Just finished the three-parter. - Yes. - The three-parter murder. (laughs) - Yeah. - You son Canadian. - Yes, those three-par. - I'm Canadian. - Oh, okay. It's the first time I've ever heard. Ever heard, eh? - Three-parter's collective detective coming up. So, I think this would be a good time for a deodacity of hope. - The audio of an acidity of hope. - As you ruined it for everyone. I did get some collective detective music selected. It is by a band or orchestra. I don't even know what they call themselves. Called Triad. And the album is "Public Domain" and the song is called "Dance of the Urbanite." It was one of those, like, you hear it and you know right away that that's gotta be it. Yeah, like, it's kind of melodic, cally sounding. It has classical instruments, but the music is kind of modern. - Yeah, it has modern beats and it sounds like a storm in the back. - Can you drop, say, 10 seconds, 30 seconds of it in right now? - No, what I'm going to do is play it for you at the end of the show. I'll play the whole thing, which you'll only hear, hear, hear. Because, as you know, for the episodes, we select very small portions. So, I hope you enjoy it. If you don't like it, I'm not changing it, but we really, really dig it. - Okay. - Yeah, so, tough luck. - Yeah. - And because we dig it, you will dig it because that's how it works. - Stamped it. - The art of narrow vision. - We got discussing a little bit of the old Wheel of Coffin Art this week. - Yeah, yeah. You gave me some pictures in my email that you wanted me to use as inspiration. - What were your inspiration shots? - You should put those up for the link. - Inspiration by Speedo, no. - Well, one of the pictures was just the one that he's been using for the little teaser at the top of this site, whenever it shows the Wheel of Coffin. It's got the little-- - The Mexican Day of the Dead sort of-- - Yeah, and the other picture was a picture of a leather jacket. - Really? - Yes. - Like a worn leather jacket? - Similar to a Wheel of Leather Jacket, or what he-- - Okay. - What pictures? - Yeah, envisions his Wheel of Leather Jacket. So he was thinking something along the line, well, I don't really want to give it away. - Yeah, let's-- - But like the kind of vivid colors and not so much. - Just the style. - He wants a mash of the two, you know, so. - I would love some thick, inky black lines, but I'm gonna leave that part up to you. You can decide what the-- - Yeah, I've been looking up a couple of day of the Dead skulls. - Man, why are we even doing this? I love the picture that you took for Wilkopin. We should be working on it. - I know, I love it too, because it's not our art, man. Somebody else built that box. I love the box, but to be able to-- - But it is your photo. - Here's-- - No. - The funny thing, too. - I took a photo of a garage today. That garage is not mine. It is of someone else's garage, but that photo is mine. It is my art. You took a photo, a lovely photo of some artwork. - No, I disagree. - That is not credited anywhere on it. - There's-- - I used to do it. - I'm gonna go take a picture of a Monet and say anything. - Yeah, exactly so, exactly. - No, to detect the first, we already have something. - Well, here's the-- I actually, no, we have a picture for Wilkopin, but I actually have something drawn for the collective detective. - Well, where is it? - It's in my sketchbook. - But it's in pencil. - It's horrific. I just don't know what to do about it. Like, I've been really sort of anti-using your laptop, 'cause it's like a piece of crap. - It once-- - It burns. - Yeah. - It sets your leg of fire. - Yes. Even if you're not-- - You're not wearing a ring of fire. - Even if you don't have it on your lap, somehow it does. No, but I just don't have any kind of-- - The tools. - I am so embarrassed to say, I do not have any graphics tools on my laptop. It's horrible. It's a Mac, and I'm an artist, and there is nothing out there for me. I don't even have the basic semblance of a paint program. - Yeah, yeah. - It's terrible. - We need you to have a tablet. I think maybe even just some software or something. There's gotta be something. I have a little sketch app on my iPhone, but it's pretty terrible. It'll happen. - We'll get you MS Paint, the equivalent Apple equivalent to paint. - I mean, I could just scan the picture and put it up there for you. You know, I was actually thinking, I did a little sketch of a skull for the Wilcoff and thing, and I was thinking what I'd like to do is maybe do some painting for that. - Oh, that'd be fun. - Yeah, but that would be very cool. - Monochrome, though, I was thinking that'd be nice. Yeah. - Very nice. Okay, well, she's gonna have that. I remember you were talking your, the Herm Carter stuff. You were saying it drew a lot of attention because it had color in it. - Yeah, 'cause all the other images were. I remember you saying all the other images were in black and white, but that's not true. Mother Grand was the first one in color. - Yes, but I don't know that shades of yellow necessarily count as. - Yeah, there was a shading thing in the background, and then the rest was shadow, it was all black, but. - Yeah, well, I guess I meant more the bright visual of a giant red picture with an axe coming at you as opposed to a lady apparently practicing Tai Chi to a sunset. - Tai Chi to a sunset. Yeah. - Okay, well, I look forward to seeing that next week. - Yes, me too. So does everybody else, all your fans. - Yep. - I appreciate everybody, I appreciate three day fish and Barry sending in some stuff, and I think Ray might've sent something for under the site, Ray may have sent something that they got lost somewhere. I feel kind of bad about that. I'll dig it into my email and see if I missed anything. - But Ray's busy, that's okay. He's a busy guy these days, busy busy. - If you have comments, questions, or suggestions, you wanna send us, you can find us at skinner.fm or flashpaulp.com. Call our voicemail line at 206-338-2792, or email us text our MP3s to skinner.fm or comments at flashpaulp.com. Jessica May's vocal talents and musical stylists can be found at maintenance.com. Hope OpenX's artistic work and general updates can be located at a popenaxfeathers.wordpress.com. The entire run of flashpaulp can be found at skinner.fm or flashpaulp.com. I need to update this listing for next episode. Jessica May. - You're just making sounds. - Or via the search bar and iTunes. FlashS is released under the Canadian Creative Commons attribution non-commercial 2.5 license. 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