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Canada’s Sporting Disgrace + Stan Bowman Fallout

Brent Gunning is joined by Sam McKee for the Friday edition of The FAN Morning Show. The boys jump into the ‘Drone gate’ surrounding Canada soccer right now. What was the reaction from the guys when they found out the news? Does this put a damper on Canada’s summer of soccer? How will the new Canada Soccer CEO, Kevin Blue, handle the controversy? The guys spend the second half of the hour talking about Stan Bowman being hired in Edmonton and if this is the right move going forward? (34:22)

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.

Duration:
50m
Broadcast on:
26 Jul 2024
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Brent Gunning is joined by Sam McKee for the Friday edition of The FAN Morning Show. The boys jump into the ‘Drone gate’ surrounding Canada soccer right now. What was the reaction from the guys when they found out the news? Does this put a damper on Canada’s summer of soccer? How will the new Canada Soccer CEO, Kevin Blue, handle the controversy? The guys spend the second half of the hour talking about Stan Bowman being hired in Edmonton and if this is the right move going forward? (34:22)

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.

(upbeat music) - Fan, morning show, Friday. The three sweetest words in sport talk radio. I lied, I got a couple more for you. Sam McKee is here, folks, we pride him on a bed. - Please stop yelling. - I'm gonna keep yelling. (audience applauding) - Please just tone it down a little bit. I got my crowbar on the way in. And I was like, let me pride this guy on a bed. I need my golf butt here. We gotta talk about our country being disgraced at the Olympics already. We wore the same hat in here, kinda. - I got the mesh bag version. Yeah. - Oh, you did get the mesh bag version. - I'm here against my will, I've come in this morning. I will say, little easier to convince yourself to get out of bed when it's one day of the morning show. I think I'm literally doing one day this whole summer, which I think is today. - Okay. - So, there you go, here's your little treat. - I'm here. - Who's the treat for me or our friends listening? 'Cause I know it's a treat for me. - I know it's a treat for me. - Like I know they're like, okay, you get one, you get to pick the day, and I didn't get to pick, but I'm happy you're here. - We did a full, I don't know, we did a every day of the summer last year. We did the morning show together. - Yeah. - Felt like every single day. And one of my favorite traditions. - Probably two weeks. - One of my favorite traditions that we did. And I gotta tell ya, get in the car this morning. - Yeah. - It's God, I wish I had a hoodie. - Oh, you're cold. - And I was like, oh boy. It's almost August when summer's over. - Oh God. - I was like, oh my God, summer's over. And then I started talking to myself, I was like, you know what, you know, it's time for the morning show. One of my finest traditions in sports talk radio. My favorite time of year to ask people's weekend plans for all the weekend plan techs. - Oh, you do love it. - So, we're heading into weekend plan techs territory here. So, if you have some nice weekend plans techs, please $5.95.90. And also, my other favorite tradition on the morning show. Because I will say, I look at that. - I have a third tradition ad 'cause I know what you're gonna have. - I went to bed at 7.45 last night. So, I woke up pretty okay today. - Old man rivers. - Yeah, like the sun was fully out. I didn't even close the blind. I just went to sleep. - Wow. - I have a remarkably good sleeper. - You, I can attest, you're very good. - I just go to sleep. But I am not grinding that hard today. But I know people who are listening right now. It's 6.02 a.m. If you're listening to this right now, you've grinded all week. It's Friday morning at 6 a.m. You're either starting, you're coming off a night shift, whatever you're doing. You've been grinding all week. You're working for the weekend. One of the last weekends of the summer. - Slaving away for the man. - And now it's time to text in and tell me what you're doing. So, we got already got our first one from Matt and Kitchener. - Oh, God. - On the way to work, Matt from Kitchener morning grinders. - Love it. - Love that. - We're back. The grinders are back. - There is a third tradition that I have to do. It involves a text line as well. And this one, Ben would hate this because it's so craving. But like, if you're a member at a nice golf course and you like want to meet us by any chance, you should definitely text it in the slightest to play your course just like throwing that out there. - Well, if you are playing golf today, I'd love to hear that too. - Of course, we always do love to hear it. - So, those three things. - Yes. - Tell me your weekend plans is coming up. Where you're grinding, where you're working hard. - Yes. - And where you're playing golf this weekend. Text today, definitely get in red. So, there you go. - So, very quickly, before we get into, again, the breaking news of- - We just keep talking about junk before we push back- - Of our nation. - Of our nation being disgraced after the summer of soccer in this country. It's okay, a World Cup coming here. Surely we won't be talking about that, it's in 2026. But you talked about golf. I played, God, arguably, it was one of the most Canadian golf course experiences I've ever had. You know, I have a buddy, lives out in Woodstock. We are big fans of fine in a place, somewhere in the middle. Our normal spot that we meet up at, they have tournament or something, blocked off. Couldn't go. So, we found another course part way through. And it was the Walter Gretzky municipal golf course they have. - I was stunned you're not wearing the hat. - Well, I didn't buy the hat that I tried to do. - You didn't buy the hat? - No, I knew I wasn't going to wear it. - Wow. - I know. - That's a good, like, little, like, shelf piece. - Well, I think- - It's good for the backdrop. - I think I'll be back. - Okay. - It's what I'm telling you there. - Okay. - Between the distance that, but it was just, I mean, it's the city's mutiny. They renamed it after the man. Everything else is named after Wayne, or the might as well give his dad something in the town. But I just, like, I wore my, like, most Canadian golf shirt. We got paired with some small children. I was, like, 12-year-olds. One of whom was a Bruins fan that I did not stop giving crap to the entire round. - Talking junk. - Talking junk. - Yeah. - And then, as we said, it's like, we asked him why. He's like, well, my dad likes them. And I'm like, "Merry, well, my beast with your dad." You know, you followed him blindly. That's fine. But it was just a very wholesome Canadian experience. You mentioned golf. I got to tea yesterday at the Walt as apparently it's known. - I mean, of all the places we've been- - Yes. - In all of the golf courses- - Yes. - Where we've bought super questionable hats that we never wore. - I know. - I know, okay. - That is the most stunning revelation. - I didn't leave- - You text me a picture. - I didn't leave- - Look at this hat. - I didn't leave merch lists. - Okay. - Okay, so I have taken up a tradition of pretty much every course I play at now, not like multiple times, but the first time or whatever. I now buy a logo golf ball, give it to my son. You know those TPC lunch boxes we got? That's his now. He keeps all his golf balls in there. So I do that, I bought that. And then they had some like nice, just like nice t-shirt with like the logo I was telling you about. - Okay. - Father and son carry in their bag. So I did buy a little merch, but not the Walt, but something tells me of that- - That hat was attacking. - Yeah, yeah, guess what? It's still gonna be there. They have like 15 colors, okay? They're not running out of that one anytime soon. So I just, shout out to the people of Brantford. Shout out to the two 12 year olds that I hung out with all day yesterday. - I am honestly gunner. I've played so much gloves on holidays for two and a half weeks. - I actually don't think you've worked since the least for a limited. - That's not true either. - No, I know. - I've played so much golf where like, I played on Wednesday at my last day of holidays, I played at Lakefield. Spectacular at a really good time. I played my boys Mikey and Rome. By the end of that, I was just like, I don't want to swing a golf club. I'm a little bit like, I'm actually, people would kill for my price. - Yeah, I know, I know. - But I'm like, I don't want a golf anymore. I'm sick of golf, and then I have a tea time on Sunday. - Of course you do. - Got a tea time on Saturday at Centennial with my wife. Like I love some tea times, but like, maybe there is potential to golf too much. Like this is like the real eye opener for me. And you know, I follow our boy Justin Bourne on Golf Canada. This guy plays every single day. - Yeah. - He's at Scarborough. - Oh. - He's literally, he's trying to 72 the other day. This guy plays every single day. - Damn, Bourne. - And I don't think I could do it. I don't think I could be a, it's a cautionary tale for being a member somewhere. - Here's the difference though. - I'd be out there every day, and I think I'd be sick of it. I'd be doing it around, be working on too much stuff. - Here's the difference is that I think what you're feeling of like the too much. - Is money? - Well, partially that. I'm not gonna delve into your finances, but there has been a lot of techs. There has been a lot of techs around fam 590 of like, is McKee a titleist magnet? I don't understand how he costs. Anyways, again, your money, your problems. That's not what I was thinking about. But I think it's the, like you mentioned, Bourne, you know, member at club, da da da da da. You, it's the routine. Like I think the thing that you're feeling is like, I'm driving a Lakeview and I'm driving up to Don Valley and I'm flying to Alberta and I'm going out to come back and I'm going here. - I play golf and go back. - You did? - No. - Okay, you did travel there. Like I think what is hitting you and you're a guy who loves to travel. It's like, I hear that and I'm like, God, like all those places sound good, but could you pick one? - Yeah. - And that's my opinion on the matter. - That's fair. - But I think that's what's hitting you. I think if you were our boy then, he's a man. He just like, he comes in here every day, looking the most dressed for golf and then he puts a hoodie on. Like that's going to disguise the collars shirt that he's wearing. - He's wearing hoodie that he wears every single shot. - No shots. - But yes. But yes, no shots, but I agree. - I'll never forget we were playing a TPC media day and he came in and I was wearing like, you know, my traditional high style. So I was always like, why are you trying to be a grandpa? And I just didn't have it at the time. - To give it to. - I just wish I had it in like the first, the next time I take fashion advice from you, Ben Ann, it's gonna be the first time, but anyways. - We've got into, we once got into an argument, I don't even know how it came up between him and I and this was on air. So this is all fair game of who was cooler. - Oh, that is. - No, but I- - I feel Sophie's goal. - Right, well, but here's what I said. Here's what we were, the debate then turned into who had the right to be more offended. Because he's like, well, I'm like, I'm obviously cooler. And I'm like, well, hold on. Obviously, I definitely think there's a chance I could be cooler than you, Ben. And he took such great offense to that that that was then the thing I was offended by. - Okay, okay. - So there we are. - What a morning show. - What a morning show. - So yeah, we're already getting a million tax about plans. So we'll get it to those at the end of the segment. - Yeah, you be our secretary. - Bye. - Follow those away. - But I believe it may be time to talk about our nation's disgrace. - It is time for once, not hockey Canada. We're talking about Canada soccer, man. It was bad enough when Lombardi, our boy, was cruising a drone around, you know, looking at some New Zealand set pieces. I don't know, maybe he's just trying to get some footage of the CN River or whatever. Probably not. It's beautiful this time of year. God, gorgeous. Let me just buzz a drone around. So that was bad enough. But then it comes out that this is not a isolated incident. This is not even just a women's team incident. And this goes back to one of the greatest triumphs our country has had in recent Olympic memories of the 2021 Olympic Games, gold won by Canada. It's nuts that we're here in this story. I feel like we were all kind of having a little fun with it of like, all right, you know, buzzing the drone around New Zealand. I wonder how deep this goes. This is as bad as it could possibly have got. Like, there's just no, the person who was thinking the worst version of this story. This is it. There's nowhere worse for it. I mean, obviously it's like the whole COC is cheating in every possible sport, sure. But from a Canada soccer perspective, it cannot get worse than this. - I was on with Mike Gentile yesterday and we were talking about it. And it's one of the things we talked about was like, this was before this came out. Like, well, surely to God, they weren't like, we're going to debut our droning at the Olympics, right? This is where we will debut our cheating and our droning. Like, this is like, when they got caught from the original, for the drone during the Olympics, the amount of panic that must have set in around the Canadian Soccer Association that must have set in, because this is clearly something that's, you know, systematic here, where they're addicted to droning. They love the drone. And I'm not sure what you're going to be able to gather from droning. Like, that's the thing that kills me. It's like, you're droning over a soccer practice. Yeah, still passing. Other passes. - This isn't the NFL where you're looking at different packages. - They're practicing set pieces. What a surprise. Oh, I guess the only thing you could sort of-- - Right down number nine fast. - Yeah, it's like, oh, the guy that's a striker, he shoots into that. Like, there's, soccer's a very simplistic thing. - Yeah, it's wild, man. - But I guess, like, the sort of thing that you would be worried about, if you were sort of droning, would be that, if it's like a later rounds with penalty takers and talking about people's tendencies, which way they're leaning and the goalie, which way he likes to go and which side, or she can, whatever it is, I just, at the core of this, this is so un-Canadian and so gross. And I've never had a team that's just been, other than the Leafs who brought in raps for the training camp, so that was disgusting. - Disgusting. - How dare they let players skate in the summer. Other teams can't afford that AC. - I can't, listen, I can't say much as a Leaf fan because they're dirty cheaters for those moves, but-- - They used LTIR. - This is like, our nation's darling for, you know, the summer in 2021, the Olympics, and, you know, this past summer, Copa, where it was like, swept up the qualifying run with against, where they get those big wins against the stage, or Mexico, yeah, yeah, like all this. This was our darling. And now for this to happen, this association, they can't do anything without pissing down their leg, got it. - They really can't, they really can't. - Like, every time they build momentum, every time something great happens, like the World Cup stuff, and then the Herrmann Lees, I'm like, oh, boy, it's being a Herrmann. - Yeah. - Oof, his next pressure should be interesting. - Yes. - Give me a couple more people down at TFC practice next time I go. - I think they might, yeah. - I, it just sucks. Like, I'm just really disgusted by this. And I've seen a few zags of people being like, "Ah, it's nice to be the villains for once, "it's nice to be hated for once." Can't agree. This is just so un-sporting, it's so un-Canadian. And it just, the Olympics is one of our mutual favorite things, 'cause we're both, you know, big-time, you know, hosers, pretty-heart Canadians, they love this. - Where am I flannel? - And it's just such a, like, early strike that just is like, wow. Before the opening ceremonies, one of our biggest events, the women's soccer, which everyone looks forward to, is completely disgraced. And now it's like, everyone's gonna be talking about that the whole time. The poor players and the team, I mean, do they know? Like, how far does it go? Like, is it just a coaching thing? Like, I'm sure the players weren't like, "Yeah, fly the drone over it, like." - I don't, well, that's the hard, that's the thing that is impossible to know the end of this, right? Because the players are, they're all a part of the team, but, you know, they're not making these decisions, but, they've also all played in professional settings and, you know, teams their whole lives. I'm trying to understand what they gleaned from the droning. 'Cause if it was a lot, if it was worthwhile, I would think the players wouldn't know where they got it from. - Did you win the gold medal last time? - Well, this is what I'm getting at, is like, the players would say, "Well, how do we know that?" Or, "Well, how are we so well prepared for every bit?" Like, I think there'd be an element of that. And maybe that just turns to, - I love you, Bev. You're truly the greatest coach ever. There is no, like, I wonder if that's the way it crystallizes for them, but I just, I would feel like you would have to understand, like, the Patriots and Spygate, when they're sitting there going, like, if exercise wise, it's like, "Wow, I've played "on a lot of football teams before." We never knew a white to that extent. Now, I think the part of the difference there is that it was in the midst of the Patriots dynasty, so I think there was some Patriots, like, mystique that probably disguised that as the opposite with this. I was like, "Can we suck for ever?" But now, what happened here? And obviously, the women's side has had a longer, kind of lead time of being good here, but that's the thing I can't get away from with this, was this was the sport that sucked everyone in. I mean, Canada basketball, for as excited as we all are about it, it hasn't had that moment yet. Like, I was excited about the World Cup last year. - It was amazing. - It was amazing. - It was a crossover moment. - It was a bit. - Everyone was into that. - Yeah, yeah, but I don't think you've had the true, I remember seeing that that was like, okay, that's the spark, and now you need the Olympics to be the match, which very well- - Saturday, three against Greece is gonna be a big time bromer of what people are up with. - Yeah, totally, I'm very curious to see where they're at. But they haven't had that moment yet, despite their being, Shaco just Alexander and an NBA champion and Kelly Illinek and RJ Barrett and Yada Yada, all these names we know, they haven't had that crossover moment yet. Canada's soccer has had, again, like if you combine the men's and women's teams, four, five, six of these moments now. - Within the last four years. - And for every single one of them to be tainted now. Because that's the thing, the fact that it went back to the Olympic gold, there's no world where we could say, oh, but it definitely didn't happen before that. The players can say what they want, the coaches can say what they want, but that's the other part of this is just, I feel awful for all the players involved, like that's what I keep coming back to, like God, thank God, Christine Sinclair isn't anywhere around this and she doesn't have to get asked questions. - So the question is for me now, how like, what's on the table here for Canada's soccer? - Because if I'm one of the member, I guess if you're Sweden and you lose that gold medal game, you don't want to win that gold medal like four years later in a cheating scheme. - Well, I mean, it happens in other sports all the time. - If you're looking back on that and you're one of the teams that played them during that tournament, how pissed are you? - Live it. - And I think the associations will start to talk and people will start to get a little bit pissed off and people will start to like, have these protests. - Well, 'cause I think losing that gold medal is 100% on the table. Like, I don't pretend to know how this stuff works, but like, I mean, they almost took a gold medal away from Ross, sort of the oddie for smoking wheat. So-- - Oh, he would, just other people were smoking and he was just around a parent. - I was just at a party. - Just at a party and some guys were too bad, bad. So I was tell, man, I was right in their face. I was so close to them. Like, this is bad, don't do that. Give me some. - Buddy Ross. - He was like, oh my God. - He was like, my very first like hero. I was like, this guy's the man. - The man! - Anyways. - Look at his sick roots coming in him on. Where's he at these days? - Where's he at? - So, I think that everything, the COC, I mean, so the Olympic committee, they seem to be pretty willing to strip medals from people for stuff. To me, this seems like they are definitely in danger of everything being on the table. And what does this do for the rest of the tournament? What does this do for interest in one of the biggest teams that we have at the Olympics? Like, the defending gold medalists from the Tokyo Games are now a disgrace side with their head coach suspended. She's gone for the whole thing. - Nuts. - It's a really, really crazy story and a huge development. And one that, you know, I was, you know, like I said, lying in bed extremely early. And I saw our old Ricky boy, Rick West had tweet that out. And I was like, wow, that's not great. That seems bad. I sent that to you guys. I'm like, oh boy, this is not great. - Generally speaking, Rick West has not brought sunny facts about someone to the light of day. - They're not doing a report on what a great guy someone is. - I play hockey with Rick West then. - Okay. - And, you know, I know him somewhat well. - Sure. - And he called me to go for wings. - You've told me that this is hilarious. - And I missed his call. And I looked at my phone. I was like, missed call from Rick West then. I'm like, that ain't great. - What did you do? What did you do? Say it right now. I admit it before he asked it. I don't know if you're in misdeeds. Yeah, I know it's. - I mean, it's great reporting. - Obviously. - Like he's got the text, he's got like the text stuff. Like I'd love to know what the text say. We drone in tonight. - Is there a drone emoji? Just drone? - We drone it. - Like I think when you get away with something for so long. - Yeah. - And become second nature. We've seen it at all points in time. - You just completely stop thinking about it. And it's like, you know, it's like people, you know, get on the subway without pan or doing these things was like. - People are doing that. - Ah, I don't know. Personally, I would never do all the police officers listening. I would never do something like that. But like something that you do that's so illegal that you don't even think about it anymore. And then you get caught for it and you're like, Oh my God, this is the most illegal thing ever. And we're in huge trouble. So it sucks. It casts a bit of a black shadow over the Olympics. I think once the game sort of get going here, I know they got the old boat parade today in Paris, which is the weirdest thing ever. - And you're out on an opening ceremony down a lake of Flotilla. - Here's what I'll say. - Okay. - And I guess we'll kind of move into like some other Olympic stuff here, but like, yeah. Soccer Canada bad. - Okay, no, I do it up one more serious one for you. This is, I think a better question for you than it is for me, I have my own answer. But what does it take to get them back for you? - Got a clean house. - Got a clean house. - Kevin Blue. - Boy art. - Okay. - Go Canada bad. - But yeah, let's talk about this. Like this is a brand new CEO. - Yeah. - He took the job in February. That it is now nearly August. That's what? Five months, six months, something like that. Not six months. - God, that's got it in a blank, eh? - Yeah. And the idea of a new CEO coming in and, you know, he wants to be an overseer of all, an understanding. And we haven't heard from him yet. I saw a CBC reporter, Devin Harrou. He does wonderful work over there. He was saying that he is, like, Kevin Blue has effectively been in touch with the media to be like, I'm gonna go talk to these players and then I'll talk to you. I'm dying here, what he has to say. Because there is a very much possibility of true scorched earthness about this, where very few people are safe. And I think the tone he strikes is, I mean, we can all accept that. - The drone he strikes? - A hole. Maybe he does that. He just walks in, drone on the table, smashes it. - Work time! - Was he Trevor Bauer? - Yeah. - He cuts his finger. - Well, I made the joke yesterday, like Trevor Bauer, tough day in France for him, drum boy. - So, what would it take to get you back? - I think that's what it is. - I think the complete clean house. - And I actually adore Kevin Blue. And the job he did with Golf Canada was second to none. And we had- - I had him on the show a week and a half ago, and you and I talked to him. - We've had many, many run-ins with him, where he is one of the most professional, prepared, great guys that you ever meet. Watching him on that Sunday with Nick Taylor, the most locked-in guy he was ready to play with. - He was as dialed as Nick Taylor. - He was like, can I get in there? - He was, I just, I think that he's gonna have to talk to the players. - Yeah. - Here's what I'll say. It's not a great job that he has to do right now, but I fully trust the job of Kevin Blue that he's gonna do the right thing, 'cause I love the guy, and I think he's got the chops to do it. But God, it's a tough one. - Well, it's amazing. It's also amazing how- - I mean, Ben Priestman can never be near- - No, no, no, no, no, no, no. - It's on her Canada ever again. - No, no, no, no. - No, of course. - She's gone. - That's a, she gone situation. I think the thing with Kevin Blue is it's crazy how you take a job expecting one thing, and it becomes completely different. - Oh, he's like, this is great. I'm like, Jesse Marsh, my whole thing. Like, I'm a, and then it's like, we're what? We're doing what? - Well, that's the thing, right? You get brought in to take an org that clearly had some good building blocks and give it true stability, and now it feels like you have to kind of shake that to its core. - Yeah, absolutely. - And what a 180. God would love to be a fly in the wall in his brain, as he was watching all that happen. - Can I now talk a little bit about some other Olympic stuff? - Yeah. My first thing is the opening ceremonies. - Okay. I'm a big proponent of like, if something works, just stick with it. - Okay. - For example, par example, the LA Kings this year made the decision to go back to the wonderful-- - Oh my God, these are so good. - They're wonderful retro jerseys. - Can't be talking about that stuff that early on the radio, it's borderline NSFW. Gorgeous jerseys. Immediately you top five, top ten jersey in the league. They're unbelievable. - Elite heat. - The ducks went back to their old logo, they kind of tweaked it, but they went back to their old logo. Stuff that used to work just works. And it's like, why, you know what works for the opening ceremonies? Big old stadium. Big old stadium. Bringing some guys with the drums or like-- - Whatever. - And then doing the local-- - Oh, do you remember? There was like a Polynesian guy who came up and he just had on like a grass skirt and he was like, oiled up on the chest. And I just remember all the USA Today ladies were like, literally, they brought him on to oil his chest on the show, which like, I don't think that's happening anymore by the way. - We're not doing it out at 24. I just don't get why like, walking into the stadium. - Okay, sure. - That's one of my favorite things when I watch your old things ceremonies. Oh, it's a beautiful day outside the day. I'm off all day at it. I'm whining about something I'm not gonna watch anyway. - You hear me napping, let's call this baby's bed. - No, no, no, I'm saying. Anyways, I got a good night's sleep last night. Okay. - I think that's a beautiful thing for these athletes to walk into this crazy thing. - Okay, sure. - Where you're looking around and there's thousands of people there and there's the pomp and circumstance and you're holding a flag. - Yeah. - Like, what is this? The Boston Celtics Championship, the duck parade? Like, I really, really think they've tried to reinvent the wheel here and we'll see how they pull it off. But like, I mean, not to sound like Mr. I've been there, but I've been on a couple boats on that river and-- - Oh, la, la, whoa. - Where's my bag, yeah? - Throwback to Rich Ben Dennis on this show. - I've been, I'm a worldly man, I've traveled. I mean, I've seen some bots on there. You get mooned on that thing. - Nice. - There's just like, I don't know what the security is gonna be like, and we've already had some situations at the Olympics here with like, I have things of bad idea. - You're bringing out in too many outside powers, like doing it outside and just doing it in the big stadium with all the people. Let them walk in, everyone does it. You don't have to reinvent the wheel pair. - So I, if your concern is like the safety, sure, I can like wholeheartedly agree with you there. - Visually. - No, I go the other way. - You want the boats? - I'm in on this. I like that it's different. I want, man, when they did it, when they were in Beijing, and I don't know how close this thing I'm gonna go to mention is to be, they should have had it at the Great Wall of China. That's where the parade should have been down. Like, lean in to where you're at. - I love this, love this. It's gonna be different. It might suck. I'm not like blind to the reality that it could stink. - There's big time stink potential. - Big time stink potential, that's a stinker. - It's gonna be for all the butts that are moon and moon - You're not wrong, okay. But I, it's like, buddy, I watched people walk into stadiums a billion times in my life. I'm gonna watch it a billion more. - And no, I'm totally fine with this. I will say that the other thing you did mention there that I can agree with is the moment for the athletes. I don't know how big a moment it's gonna be when it's like, all right, launch the digress float. And he goes out and you're like, I don't know how that's gonna work. And that is a little awkward. I can get behind that part of it. Yeah, actually now I am thinking about it. Like, does Canada have a barge? Does each nation have one? Like, is the States just bringing an aircraft carrier with all their people? - And they're a traditional logging boat. (laughing) - Oh, get some J-strokes going here, boys. They gotta keep moving. - The issue is it'll run down the river on logs. That's the one. - God, a thousand Olympic event. We'll do our power rankings later. - Well, I just, I don't know. I guess we could do it a little bit here. - Sure, I actually have an update on something we talked about earlier in the show. We're closer to booking Ross Robliotti as a guest than you think, 'cause you and him have something common. - What, like weed? - I mean, don't go for that. Yeah, you're out on that. Like his wife named Ali. - Oh! - You guys are in. - There we go. That's a big connection. - And you're talking to him, I won't be, 'cause he's a BC guy. So the idea of asking a guy who famously got kicked out of the Olympics for a smoke and weed to get up and to have six in the morning, he has time, he's tough, tough. - No shot. Or he's got like the total other way. - Yeah, and he's like, "I've been--" - He's like, "I've been--" - He's like, "Yeah, exactly." - Which, a guy who meditates since 4.15 sports talk radio feels like a tough mix as well. - That's true. - You wanna just do some Olympic events or fire it up for a hero, how do you wanna do this? - I, I, there's a couple that I'm excited for. And-- - Do you wanna weigh in on the break dancing epidemic or you're happy that it's in the Olympics? - Oh my God, it's a disgrace. Breaking? - It's hilarious. - Like we can't have baseball, but we have breaking? - I mean, this is the problem. Like, Peter and Stubby Clap who are probably 50 years old now are something approaching that. We can't get those guys in the games. I, I loathe the baseball isn't a Olympic sport. - Of course it should. - Of course it should. - I think I will be watching the breaking if it's on my TV. - Of course you will. - But I don't think I'm gonna love it. I have to be honest with you. But I am excited for the basketball clearly. - Obviously. - And there's a deeper conversation to have there about that. But like, I love just the track and field. - Yeah. - Because it's something that's so out of our normal lexicon of watching sports. - Yeah. - And I think what's great about the Olympics is just having these sort of stories and moments that like, listen, there's lots of great reporters out there that do work on this stuff and people leading up to the Olympics. But like, in the common sports fans lexicon, there's too much stuff to do. Like there's just, there's way too many things to follow. - Yeah. - And for this, these two weeks in the summer where we're just like, zoomed in on it, where these people get their time. Where like, these people, these men and women who work so hard to get to this point. And we all just kind of, especially with the J's sucking, so bad. - They're so bad. - This will be like a massive moment for a lot of these athletes where everybody's watching. I love learning about these people. I love pretending to be an expert in diving. I'm like, well, that splash was pretty big. I don't know if that was a big duet or a splash. Like, I just, I really, really love this time getting to know these athletes and letting them have their sort of, I have their moment in the sun. It's awesome. So I can't wait. - I can't wait either, although I will say that I'm trying to think of the exact analogy. - And things are on a good time. - Things are on a great times. I think I kind of feel, I wonder if this is how somebody felt watching hockey who grew up watching Weiner. And in like the dead period before Sid was truly like, blessed upon us. 'Cause I saw you say in bold. And every time I watched track now, I go like, this is amazing. No, I was gonna go. - I saw the literal goat. - It's gonna be good. But I saw the guy who stopped trying to set world records. And then Tis Tis, my countryman, Andre de Graz for having the gall to try in the semi-final. Like, it'll, I'm sorry. It's never getting better than that. I am now, like, this is how I understand how Jordan guys are made. 'Cause I watched that with my own eyes. Guys, eating McDonald's there. He's getting run over by a segue. It doesn't-- - Oh my God. I forgot about the segue. - Oh, you say in Bolton Tiger Woods. You're both almost robbed by security personnel in like a decade span there. But I think that's the only thing that feels a little different about track is that one, I've had the Canadian who's super in the mix with it with the grass. Obviously, like, you know, when I was younger, Bailey was awesome. And it's just, I love it. I'm gonna be locked into the 100 meter and the four by one and all that. But it's just, I do feel like I would imagine somebody who grew up watching Gretzky or watching Jordan. - No, it's true. It's actually a great thought that I hadn't really thought about it. - And now it's like, hey, like Noah Lyles is a very good. - Okay. - And so was Josacic. But like, there's a gap there. - I get it. - I'm sorry, Joe. That was mean. - But though it's true though, it's just, we saw like, everything in those Olympics that Usain Bolt competed in, everything lit up. - Yes. - To his 100 meter. - Yeah. - And to the relay and to the 200 meter. Like everything, that's what we all wanted. - Star of the Games, yeah. It's a good point. I thought about that. - Yeah, he felt like, you know what, we'll like save the power ranking for later. We'll talk about Stambotment on the other side of things here and then we'll get into some J's as well. But yeah, Usain Bolt felt like, and there's always going to be a fastest man in the world, just like there's always going to be a heavyweight champ. - Yeah. - But like, there's a heavyweight champ. - Yeah, no, it's true. - And whoever holds the belt now, sorry, no shots to that guy. I mean, I guess that's a shot. - Let me get through some of these texts. - Go for it. - 'Cause it got lots of great ones. This one is from Nathan, going to Beerfest tomorrow. - You like to call it? - P-fest. Half day of work, round at Whistle Bear to kick off a buddy's bachelor party weekend. - Let's call. - Let's go, Adam and Guelph. - That's Whistle and at the Bear, let's go. - Why is Ross Atkins still employed? Ivan from Innisfil, we'll get into that next thing. Next one, I think. Morning grinders, Sammy loves these early moorings from our boy and Windsor, Giacomo. - Oh, I love Windsor, you know that. - Playing Coppenwood today, you are welcome. Anytime Ken from the Court of Lates, we'll take that one offline. - Bruiser from Guelph 401 to Milton grind every day. Mary Hill Golf Club tomorrow, love that. Amazing energy, Gunnar and Sammy. I'm on two and a half day of a four and a half day weekend. It's been great, but I've already been to Muscocon back. This weekend, hanging out with my dog, cooking my whole fridge and pantry because I love to cook. - Sounds like a Canadian Zach Bryan album right there. - Meredith and E.G. - To Muscocon back. - And nice 12-man golf turn into Saturday. Brantford Golf and Country club and Brantford, three minutes from Walter Gretzky, ranked 36th in Ontario. Call on out fellas, put a pin in that one. - Yes, we will. - And the last one is big plans, club championship, all weekend, Sean from Keswick. I responded and said, what club? He said Orchard Beach Club, where Hockey Night in Canada was created on a handshake. Beautiful place. Don't know if that's true, but we'll take it. - I need that story, but I would indeed, I need a 15-minute CBC dock on that exact thing. - I need to take Arthur. - I would, we get it up there. We got the guy who played grapes in the TV movie. Get him back in the other. - So please keep texting in your plans, your grinding, where you're playing golf this weekend, everything, so let us know. - Now you can't do this this weekend, but later in August. Bush is coming to Budweiser's stage for their load at the greatest hits tour on August 19th with guests Jerry Cantrell and Candlebox to celebrate we're giving away tickets to enter. All you have to do is tune in to episodes of the fan morning show, listen for the code word, then text the code word to 59590. Standard message and data rates may apply. Today's code word is Golden State. Text Golden State to 59590. Right now to enter for your chance to win. Today is the last day for this giveaway, but if you don't win with us, tickets are on sale at ticketmaster.ca. ♪ Glissorine ♪ - Is that Bush? - I don't know, but I think it's Bush. ♪ Glissorine ♪ - Sandman's gonna tell you, yay or dare, yay. Good job, you nailed it, good job by you. It'll be a good job by us. Hopefully when we discuss Stan Bowman, getting hired by the Oilers, what that means for the NHL. Where's Joel Quenville gonna coach next and why it never would have been Toronto? You know, my opinion's on that matter. And the Blue Jays. The Blue Jays, they continue to Jay, and we will talk about it. - Bernie Clemente looking decent on the bow though. - Okay, there we go. That tells you everything you need to know about last night and by the last night, I mean yesterday afternoon. The fan morning show continues next on Sportsnet 5.99 of the fan. Dive deep into Toronto Sports and the NFL. The J.D. Bunk is podcast. Subscribe and download the show on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. (upbeat music) - Dolls of tones of me and Samaki push his hair as well. I don't know who is front's gonna call hosts of me. - That'll be a hell of a scene that it. Is it by the by other stage? - Yep, yep. - That'd be a good crowd. - Man, I was talking about this with my buddy again. I love him. Shout out Daniel. He was golfing with him yesterday. And he's like, you guys are always giving away tickets on your show, like how does that work? Like, you know, just like these classic questions. And then I'm like, the thing that came up was that I knew I was becoming older. 'Cause I remember like, you know, even 10 years ago listening to these very reads and being like, okay, have fun there, Grams, and now. - Yeah, I gotta tell you, get me there. Just give me a little more volume on that song. (laughing) I guess you're not supposed to do this for the podcast. - Yeah, this is terrible for the podcast. - Okay, I'll stop. - But, this is a good enough song that I would go to the concert just for this song. Or it's like, I don't know any other, I'm sure the guy's the one that I've heard of. - Yeah, of course. - But, go ahead for a read. Okay, we're good. - All right, Stan Bowman, back on his feet, back in the saddle. Not, well, I mean, not in the saddle, 'cause that's like the saddle domes in Calgary. He's in Edmonton. Back on the oil rig. - Back in the pallet yard. - There you go. Shout out her boy. Your first thoughts. I mean, I did a little bit of this yesterday with Ben. I am a little surprised that he ends up in a spot that has a lot of spotlight on it, but I'm not surprised the oil there's one. It's kind of where I initially sit on it. - I think there's a couple of different conversations here where how long is long enough for the situation? And that's a question I don't have the answer to. - Yeah, fair. - And if the NHL deems that about three and a half years, three and a half years is a long enough suspension for what happened, then I can't really quibble with like whatever. If you think that's enough, I guess it is. If it, I think maybe longer, I don't know. - Yep. - 'Cause it's really unprecedented and there's nothing to compare it to and I'm not sure on that side of it. But the question that I think is a bigger one for the oilers after coming off one of their better seasons in the last 25 years. - Yeah, best one since the last time they did that. - Yeah, however long ago that was, which is like sneaky long ago. - Oh yeah, we're old. - Yeah. I just coming off that with all the momentum and a wonderful free agency day where everybody, by all accounts, think that they're the winners of it. You know, Jeff Jackson does a phenomenal job bringing in got, to me, and is the juice worth the squeeze here on this one? - Hmm. - Like I, Stan Bowman, you know, he inherited that team. - Yeah. - That was a star studded affair, right? And I think it would have been pretty hard to not win cops with that team and Dale talented the majority of the heavy lifting on that team. Actually, Dale Talon, a lot of heavy lifting on the Florida Panthers too. He really. - That's his specialty. - Yeah. - Two in the heavy lifting. Apparently he's a scratch plus handicap. I don't know, he's getting older. Maybe he's up to it plus two now, but up to a two now. - Yeah, make sure you can steal some money off somebody. - Yeah. If you like, look at a lot of what Blackout fans say about Stan Bowman, he was not maloved. - Yeah. - And I just, like, it felt as though they needed somebody. - Mm hmm. - It felt as though he was out there and they just, Jeff Jackson didn't want to do it. And it's like, this guy's winning cops. He's back to coming. - Mm hmm. - I just think it's a surprising move for the Oilers who had so much positive momentum. - Yeah. - And they kind of people had forgotten about the last time they brought in a disgraced person. And now they just do this. And who am I to say if he deserves a second chance? - Sure. - I'd say what his suspension. - Yep. - I'm just surprised they did it 'cause I don't think it's worth it. I don't think he's that good. - That's interesting. I think the Jackson of it all is interesting 'cause optically, if I was somebody who came into this with no understanding of Jeff Jackson, I just was like, oh, okay, he's the president. I don't know what his previous life was. I would say, well, he surely wants to bring in somebody who could handle a super high profile contract negotiation better. 'Cause that is the number one job that's there for the Oilers right now. - And he has experience in that with James and Kay. - Well, right. But also, so does Jeff Jackson on the other side of it. Like, Jeff Jackson was a power agent. He's the one who got McDavid. Again, it was supposed to be 13 and somehow ended up 12, five. Thanks, everybody, for that. Heaven forbid the Oilers not have an extra 500K kicking around, but that's the weird part of this to me is that you would think, and again, like Jackson is not just an agent. He's worked in front offices before, obviously, he's like a hockey lifer, has a lot of understanding of all the kind of different tentacles of the game. But you would think the guy whose last stop before this was his superstar agent, that'd be the thing he'd be most comfortable doing, would be to negotiate. And maybe it's a little complicated because Connor is sitting there waiting next year and there is the, I mean, again, you would think you'd be able to use it to your benefit, but maybe you're just too close to the situation having used to have been his agent. But that's the part that kind of stands out in the oddest way to me is you would think that's where Jackson would feel the most comfortable is doing those deals, or at least do the dry side of one and then get out of the way, or however you needed to see it. That's the most interesting part of it all to me. - Yeah, I think that's a really well said there, Gunner. And I just, I'm looking at, I went, of course, as you do. I went to Reddit, looking for some information on some of the trades that he made. - Are you a Reddit guy? - A dabble. - I've become one recently. - A dabble. I love the Reddit Toronto. I love like the, I love Reddit. - I do. - I'm a big Reddit guy for like pods I listen to. - I would not ever contribute. - No. - Oh, God. - But I learned. - So, some of the trades that Stan Bowman made as the Hox GM, okay? - Okay. - So, the first one on this list, Adam Bocchist, two first round picks, and a second round pick. - I remember this. - To CBJ for set Jones, consequently giving him - A cajillion dollars. - Immediately one of the worst contracts in the NHL. And he got a first round pick back in that as well with, with set Jones. - Yep, Bocchist was like the 12th overall pick or something like that as well. - Yeah, Dano and a second round pick. That start to Montreal for Dale Wiese and Fleishman. - We do not like that. - Brian Bickel and Tevu Tarovainen to Carolina for a second and third round pick. Not great. - Yeah, that's your, I mean, I'm just gonna put a little context that you're-- - They're shedding. - That's your classic get out of cap, cap, hell deal. Not good though, you're right. - Panerin and Mott and a sixth round pick to CBJ for Saad Anton Forsberg in a fifth round pick. Horrific trade. - Yeah, I mean, the Panerin thing, you weren't gonna be able to pay 'em, so keep 'em. - And play that year out. - I don't disagree, I'm just worth 15 years removed for all this stuff. I'm just trying to give some context here. - Nick Schmaltz. - Yeah. - To Arizona for Strom and Pirlini. - Yeah, no, whoopsies. - Mm-hmm. - Just, I forgot they had Lainer. Lainer de Vegas for Suban Dene and a second round pick. - The Leafs had Robin Lainer on their cap. Cheat for five seconds anyways, that year. - So like, I could keep, I mean-- - Yeah, no, no, I-- - Sharp to Dallas for Trevor Daly and Garbut. Garbut's such a bad name. - It's tough, it really is. - So like, right, it's just not a good record. - No, you're right, and I think the interesting thing is the way the Oilers also see themselves in this, and they probably rightfully should, is that they look at a guy who is able to keep the party going for a little while before they had to do all those, all that ugly work you just mentioned there. And I wonder if that's why he's the guy there. There's a, we sometimes think of it as who's the best GM, and a lot of times that's the best way to look at it, right? As you, you find the smartest hockey man you can find, and they'll find a way, it's much like coaches. Like, yes, they're the right coach for certain teams, but the absolute best coach will find a way to be the best coach for any group of players. But I think with general managers, they're so different depending on the life cycle of the team you're in right now, and I just think that's the reason why I'm with you. Like, you lay out the facts there, and I don't think this is like a slam dunk higher, but I think you look at it, and it is clear as day that they feel like, okay, he was able to keep it going for two, three more years, and I think they would love to think they have seven, eight more years of McDavid and Drycidal. - I mean, if Drycidal signs that summer, you have eight more years of McDavid too. - That's exactly it. - Like, there's no way Leon signs long term. - Is it weird that there's not a massive, where is the Leon Drycidal contract clamoring? Like, I'm thinking back to the Matthew stuff. - Isn't it next year that he's eligible? - No, he's on the same clock as Marner. He could sign his extension right now. Yeah, Connor's extension eligible. Well, okay, it's funny, I mentioned this yesterday, and we love him, our boy Ryan Dixon. This is part of like the why it's harder to be a leaf than anywhere else thing. He wrote up a piece of like, "Hey, top UFAs of next summer, "headlined by Mitch Marner and John Tavares." And in the preamble, it's like, obviously Sidney Crosby's gonna resign, obviously Leon Drycidal's gonna resign. It's like, well, I mean, maybe. - Probably, quite honestly. - I mean, we could have a dubious conversation too, but where's Sid's contract? - Well, I mean, that is one of the, that is one of the all time questions. I mean, I still think it seems like he's gonna just want to play out the string there and try to keep it going, but man, until you see pen to paper, it's, I think, a super interesting to see. - So my final thoughts on Bowman is, okay, if you want to hire him, he's served a suspension, he's eligibility hired, you hired him, you gotta deal with the crap that comes with it. I just don't think it's worth it. - Yeah. - I don't think, and I guess what they thought is Jeff Jackson's like, "Listen, I don't want to be the general manager. "I'm the president of this team. "I'm gonna hire a guy that's available. "I'm gonna deal with the crap storm that comes in late July "when most people are on vacation. "Well, listen to Sammy and Gunner kill me for 25 minutes, "and it won't be talked about again." - Tough day for him. - And regardless of whatever happens this season, Jeff Jackson's pulling the strings anyway. It's the classic president of hockey ops first GM thing, and he's just got, he's got a guy in there, big time meat shield, huge meat shield, in fact. Like, he's like, "Ah, it brings him in." And now he's just, the deal with it, they'll deal with the crap storm that comes here for less than a month, and away we go. - How much, okay, switching gears to Quenville. How much would he be worth the squeeze? - That is, to me, a massive question mark. I think more so. - Like, does he still got it? Well, that's the thing. - He was getting old when he got fired. - This is exactly where I'm at, is that the idea, like a GM, you can talk to other GMs, and you can be on top of contracts in the league, and understand where things are going, and you can still watch hockey and scope. I don't think Joel Quenville is given pump up speeches and breaking down video with some teen somewhere, or something, that's the stuff that you can't do, the ability to relate. The idea of him being a more kind of old school coach, and it being a more new school league than even it was when he was last year, I'm not saying, I'm not saying Quenville can't do it, but the idea that is the de facto home run slam dunk hire, I don't think it is easy. - He's seven to no, with the Panthers when they got fired. - Yeah, no, he was nailed when he got fired. - So, I think we're gonna find out, because-- - Somebody's gonna can their coach early. - Be immediate, the first teen that cans their coach, he's getting hired, right? Like, there's just, I don't think it works here. - No, I don't think, okay, I feel like I've given you this million times, let's get your answer on here. What do you think of my conspiracy theory that there was no way he was gonna be given the green light back into the league, until the Leafs had hired a head coach? - I think it's a great conspiracy theory, I'm here for it. I also think that they just did it out to the hiring cycle, everybody hired a coach. - Yeah, fair. - And they're just like, you know what, we're gonna have everyone hired their coaches, except for, did I imagine that McClellan got hired by the blue jackets, and then Dean Evansson got hired by the blue jackets? - I mean, Evansson did get hired by the blue jackets. - But like, I thought McClellan got hired by the blue jackets. - I remember our boy Brent tweeting out a picture, not me, another one, tweeting out a picture of McClellan in the airport coming to Toronto. That is my, like, McClellan recollection, but no. CBJ, I don't know, that feels like a fever dream, but no, there was, so I'm just quickly looking at it. - Those rumors, right? - Those rumors, I'm just reading a headline for you three days ago. Dean Evansson, blue jackets agree to head coach contract after Todd McClellan, NHL rumors. So, do with that what you will. - And so then, technically, they hired Evansson. - Yeah. - Quineville would have been eligible to be hired, right? - Yeah, I mean, they can't go babs. - Oh, you're-- - And then straight into Quineville. It was just not eligible for him, I don't think. - Okay, but they, like, and I wanna be clear, like Dean Evansson is just a hard ass, there's no reports of, like, you know, the Thomas Holmes from stuff for, like, you never, like, asked to, that we know, asked to look at anybody's phone, or-- - He said, "Hey, you, young player, let's bully you in front of all your team." Like, that never happened, but-- - Dean Evansson is not like Mr. Sunshine Rainbows in orange places, do you remember those games, the least played against the wild? He's just, I don't think I've ever seen him not screaming, Matt. His team could be up three-nothing, and he's, like, spitting blood on the bench. - I actually think that he could turn them into the wild of the East. Like, plucky, de-say. - Plucky. - I think that's what they wanna be. - It's so, this is, this is, like, a bigger conversation. I'll slide in very quickly here. It is funny how some teams just have an identity that's impossible to shake. Like, even the wild, it's like, they get caprized off, and it's like, no, you're still the wild. Sorry, folks, I hate to break it to you. - Oh, wow, that is our next segment. Which teams cannot shake their reputations? - Well, the ultimate team that's trying at this offseason is the Preds, the Preds forever have said, we do not have a sexy forward. David Legg one, like, yes, yes, Forsberg is good, but David Legg one will forever be. Our gold standard here, and it's like, Steven Stamco's place, the Rinal Riley place for them now. - You know, it's funny. It's kind of like, Trotz was like, he was the coach there forever. - Yeah. - And, like, as soon as Poyles left, he's like, I hated everything. (laughing) I hated you. Your team stopped. - Yeah, let's get a little flash. - We think of Barry Trotz as a guy who wants them all using ring-et sticks just so they could just boot it out and in fact. - He's like, you know, I like good players. - Can anyone here do a mishy? Can someone do a Michigan? - Quick text. - Yeah, sneak it in. - Garrett from Allison, hitting the cottage for some pops. And Canada versus Greece tomorrow. Can't wait, love that. Our boy, Mike and Aston Boya, born and raised in Melville, go millionaires on holiday weekends in beautiful South Reston, Ontario, grinding out the morning shows, the only way to start the day, late here on Weekend Ahead, hang out at Grand Ben and Bayfield and perhaps a visit to cowbell is in the cards. And the last one I've got here. - Grand Ben, beautiful area down there. - I don't understand that text. So let's hit the break. - All right, good job. Good job by you, great self-editing. You almost completely edited it, but good job, I'm very, very proud of you. Someone we're not as proud of is Canada at the Olympics so far. No, not the Blue Jays. We're going to save that from Ben Shulman at 7.30. - Oh, we got to do a little J's coming up. - You want to do a little J's coming up? Little J's? - Yeah, but we'll do some Canada stuff. - All right, I've been overruled on my own morning show. Blue Jays next and then Canada Olympic talk after that. Fair morning show continued. Sportsnet 5.9 at the fan.