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Anti-Israel Protesters Burn American Flags, Vandalize Freedom Bell After Bibi's Speech | 7.25.24 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 2

Ari Hoffam (@thehoffather) joins the show to discuss Israel PM Bibi Netanyahu's address to Congress. Later, Taylor, Grace and Jarred play Woke or Joke.

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38m
Broadcast on:
25 Jul 2024
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(upbeat music) - Live from the Aviva Tratria Studio, it's the Grace Curly Show. - We gotta bring in a new voice, a young voice, a rising voice, Grace Curly. - You can read Grace's work in the Boston Herald and the spectator. - Well, you don't want too much Grace. - Here's the millennial with the mic. - Grace Curly. - Grace Curly. - Grace Curly. - Let's bring in the host of the Grace Curly Show, Grace Curly. - You either have Grace or you don't. - Especially Grace, Grace stand up. - Grace Curly. - We'll have a message for these protesters. When the tyrants of Tehran who hang gays from cranes and murder women for not covering their hair are praising, promoting and funding you, you have officially become Iran's useful idiots. (audience cheering) - Welcome back everyone to the Grace Curly Show that was Israeli Prime Minister, Bibi Netanyahu, addressing Congress yesterday and joining us to discuss that and also the fallout that came later is Ari Hoffman from the post-millennial. Ari, before we talk about who didn't show up for this address, before we talk about the useful idiots that proved Bibi Netanyahu's point when they went out and started vandalizing things after his speech, I first want to get your takeaway from his address yesterday. What were some of the stronger moments? What were some moments that really stuck out to you from Bibi Netanyahu's address to Congress? - Thanks for having me, Grace. It was one of the most patriotic, bipartisan and powerful speeches I have ever heard in my lifetime in that room. Bibi Netanyahu is really the only adult on the world stage in terms of leaders right now. And when you look at a speech like that you go, "Can you imagine Joe Biden giving a speech like that? "Can you imagine Kamala Harris giving a speech like that?" No, of course you can't. So right now I look at that. And the reason the Democrats are freaking out is because this guy came to town and owned them. There's more about American patriotism than they do. Bibi Netanyahu, some people got mad when he was praising Joe Biden. Well, he was thanking Joe Biden because let's remember Joe Biden did do some good things. But also right after that, he was thanking Donald Trump for all the great things he did. He is really the master politician, let's not forget also, that he is heading on a plane to see Donald Trump right after everything he's doing in DC, which shows that he knows where the actual power is and who's likely to win this next election. - Yeah, really well said. And the other part of this that I wanted to get your response to is who didn't show up for this address. Kamala Harris, the vice president, was not there. Nancy Pelosi wasn't there. And she put out a tweet after saying that it was, something along the lines of it was disgraceful or the worst speech he'd ever heard or something like that. What did you make of the Democrats who didn't show up? Did they just not have the guts where they're trying to appease the radical left faction of the party? What did that say to you? - The Democrat Party hates Jews. And I say this as an Orthodox Jew. The Democrat Party hates Jews. And the fact that close to 100 of them were not there yesterday, tells you all you need to know about this. You have the leader of the Jewish state coming to town. The state is under existential threat and threats from all these different terrorist groups. Over 1200 people were massacred, raped, tortured. Another 250 were kidnapped. And their boycott in the speech, especially they would have been there as a Lensky showed up. This shows that the Democrat Party hates Jews. And I'm looking at some of the Jews who are on that list because I know some people are gonna say, "Wait a minute, are there some Jewish Democrats on there?" Yeah, they're about as Jewish as a ham sandwich. And I'll say there were Jews that turned in other Jews during the Holocaust. And that's who those Jews are. And I know some people in your audience are gonna get mad at me. And I'm sure this clip may go a little viral, but I'm telling you, that's exactly how I see it. - Well, Ari, I wanted to ask you about what happened afterwards. So this was Fox 5 DC. They said outside Union Station, protesters removed American flags and hoisted Palestinian ones in their place. The Columbus Memorial Foundation in the circle outside the station was defaced with the words Hamas is coming written in red paint. Other monuments like the Freedom Bell and various statues also suffered damage. This is how NPR covered it. Can I have cut 33, please? - I think it's been her biggest accomplishment since she's been Vice President. - Oh, I have to say, since the dog's opinion. - Sorry, that was a wrong cut. Ari, hold on one second. This is cut 33 Jennifer Ludden from NPR. - There were some skirmishes with police who say they used pepper spray, but the atmosphere was largely peaceful, as protesters sought to draw attention to ongoing violence. They feel desperate to stop. - So Ari, you saw the footage from yesterday in DC. You saw the American flags on fire. You saw the Hamas is coming written on statues. Did you think it was mostly peaceful? Did you think BB characterized or describe those people in the right way? Give us your take on that. - Oh, we're back to fiery, but mostly peaceful again, like in the 2020 riots, because yesterday I saw police officers being dragged and beaten by the crowd. And out here, the Democrats talking about that, the way they talk about January 6th, I saw American flags being burned. I saw the flags of Hamas being raised. I saw people wearing the bandanas of terrorist groups, and I wonder how many of them are non-citizens. I wonder how many of them are students who are here on student visas. Kamo Harris released a statement today, which was a pretty powerful statement, but I know her track record on Israel, and it's not a good one. And here's the thing. You had Tom Cotton, Senator, Republican Senator, and a bunch of other Republicans proposed legislation yesterday that would deport any non-US citizen who is engaged in these kinds of activities. She is the vice president of the United States, the presumptive Democrat nominee for president. All she would have to do is say to them, let's make this bipartisan legislation, let's make this happen. So putting out a statement is complete BS because she actually has the power and the position to make legislation like that happen. So she could put out one statement and have a track record of failure and being on the wrong side of this, but she doesn't actually walk in the walk. - Yeah, and obviously Kamo Harris is the presumptive nominee of the Democrat party. You have Joe Biden and Joe Biden kind of, I see it as we're grudgingly throwing their support behind her. And so now the conversation has shifted to what is she going to stand for? Is she going to be tied to the worst parts of this administration? And a very obvious next question is, if she's no longer the VP and if she becomes president, who is going to be her VP? - Now the other day, this was brought up on CNN. I've played this cut a few times since then, Ari, but I wanted your reaction. John King, and I understand what he was saying. It's a sad, you know, it says a lot about the state of the Democrat party right now and it's a sad state of affairs. But take a listen to this cut. John King is discussing one of her potential BP picks Shapiro and why that could be an issue. - Pennsylvania's Governor Josh Shapiro is being discussed as one of Harris's potential running mates. He also endorsed her tonight. In your view, one of the pros and cons for putting him on the ticket. - Well, he's certainly under consideration. I know that from key Harris allies. He's a first term governor. He's Jewish, there could be some risks in putting him on the ticket, but certainly some of our voters here in Pennsylvania said, "Hey, we like Governor Shapiro." - What are the risks, Ari, do you think? He said he's Jewish, there could be some risks putting him on the ticket. Explain to people what John King was implying there. - Sure, so John King actually converted to Judaism and was married to Dana Bash, who is Jewish. So I don't think it's an anti-Semitic comment, but he is calling out exactly what I did earlier that the Democrat Party hates Jews. That the far left flank of the Democrat party is in with Hamas. They support Hamas. Rashida Talib Ilhan Omar are basically the representatives from Gaza, not from Michigan and Minnesota. So what he's saying is that they're going to have a problem with the left flank of the party, putting a Jew up as vice president whose pro-Israel. - He's saying the quiet part out loud. - Yeah, and the other question I wanted to ask you about, obviously, BB's speech yesterday was unbelievable. There were a lot of eyeballs on it, but there was another speech later on in the day, came around eight o'clock at night. Joe Biden spoke for 11 minutes to tell people he wouldn't be running for president. Do you think that speech hit the right tones? And do you think he was honest and forthcoming with the American people about why he's stepping aside in this next election? He didn't actually say why he's stepping aside. That was basically a here's Kamala Harris and actually Donald Trump's campaign is now saying, hey, we want equal time 'cause that was a campaign ad, which it was. If he wanted something for the history books, which is what I think he was trying for, don't mention Kamala Harris, but then they got a problem. And then the people started asking why didn't he mention Kamala Harris? Well, when he first announced he was stepping down, he didn't mention Kamala Harris. He did a statement afterwards to say he was endorsing her. So why didn't he do the exact same thing last night? And he never gave a reason of why he's stepping down. Also, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm really not. But what was going on with his face? Was it Botox gone wrong? We know he had a medical incident in Las Vegas. Did he have a stroke? Because he looked worse than usual. And I have serious questions about his health and competency in office that I've had for a while now and wonder who's actually running the country. There was a big push by the media over the last few days to really, you know, fawn over Kamala Harris to kind of reinvent her public image and tell people what a strong candidate she is. And tell people that she wasn't the borders are. We obviously know that that was a title that was thrown around a lot when she first got the job of getting to the root cause of the border. Now they're trying to backtrack on that. What do you make of her strength as a candidate, Ari? And should Donald Trump change up what he's been doing? Does he need to fine tune different parts of his campaign to go up against Kamala Harris versus a Joe Biden? She's a flawed candidate. Her record is terrible. Her record is the same as Joe Biden's. And actually, what I think he should do is keep calling out the stuff that the media lies about. But I think they should let Kamala Harris punch herself out. The more that she talks, the more people dislike her, which is why she didn't get any votes when she ran for president last time in the primary, why she had such a dismal approval rating. I mean, when even the daily show is doing comparisons between her and Julia Louis Dreyfus' character on Veep, then you know you have a problem when even the left-leaning outlets in the daily show are making fun of her. Let her punch herself out and keep calling out the BS that the media is trying to spin about her record. - Yeah, and part of it too, and I'm gonna get to this when we come back from the break, is her political instincts are so off, like even not going to that address from Beebe Netanyahu, I get that she doesn't like Beebe. I get that the voters that she's trying to look cool with, the people waving the Hamas flags, that she doesn't want them to think she likes Beebe. I understand all that, but sometimes you have to zoom out as a politician and say, I'm running for president, this is a really presidential moment where I could be there and my face would be on TV and I'd be at the rostrum and I would look like a real world leader, greeting another world leader, and it's airtime, and she missed that opportunity and it just makes me think that even in moments where the choice seems obvious, that Kamala Harris and maybe the people that are left on her team, I know the turnovers crazy, it's like 92%, that they don't lead her in the right direction and say, you can go to the sorority event next weekend, right now you've got to be in Congress to watch Beebe Netanyahu deliver this speech. Ari Hoffman, thank you so much for joining the show, sir. Please let people know where they can follow you on social media. - Absolutely, @TheHoffFather on X/Twitter, Ari Hoffman official on Facebook and Instagram, can stream my show at KVI.com. - Thank you, sir, we'll talk to you again soon. Do you use scented candles, cover up sprays or air fresheners for bad odors in your home? Stop masking these smells with more odors. All you're doing is adding more harmful odors to your home. You need to destroy odors with the Eden Pier thunderstorm. Don't cover things up, you're just putting off the inevitable, you wanna get to the root cause of the problem and the root cause can be eliminated with the Eden Pier thunderstorm. Candles, cover up sprays, they cost money, they run out very quickly. This is a great way to get rid of the problem, to get rid of odors, to get rid of allergens and also to save money. Doesn't make any noise, doesn't take up a lot of space, it's easy to use and it starts working in seconds. 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I do wanna go back here though to the protesters 'cause it cracked me up that Beebe said things like, "You know, if your gaze for Gaza, "you might as well be chickens for KFC." And he went on to criticize these useful idiots of these terrorist regimes and hammer home the fact that it's not just Israel that these Hamas savages hate. Israel's the little devil. The United States is the big devil. And he's trying to explain what so many of us have been pointing out, which is it's gonna come here next. And you're not the good guys. If you're spraying, you know, Hamas is coming on a statue in DC, you're not the good guys if you're burning an American flag. But what I loved is that there were a lot of people, a lot of liberals like Nancy Pelosi and others who didn't like his speech. They didn't like the way he portrayed the protesters. And so what did the protesters do? Well, the very activists that Beebe mocked during his speech were determined to make even bigger asses out of themselves. So they went and they hoisted, they removed American flags, they burned American flags, they wrote Hamas's coming, they vandalized monuments, they tried to destroy the freedom bell, bravo, bravo. You really, you guys really showed him. He tried to say you were ignorant, hateful lunatics, and you proved his point and then some. And there's stories now that Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House and other politicians like Dan Crenshaw represented from Texas that they went back to those sites that were attacked by these nuts and they re-hoisted the American flag. And that's all wonderful. And I applaud them for doing that. You know what I would like even more than that though? Arresting these people and then keeping them in jail for a while. Make people think twice about defacing property. Make people think twice about that. You wanna burn the American flag? I'm not really sure what the law is on that. I've read different things about whether or not you're supposed to, or I know you're not supposed to do, but whether or not it's an offense that can get you put in jail. It might fall under freedom of speech. But I know that putting graffiti on the freedom bell is not something that you're allowed to do. That's not, you know, part of your peaceful protesting. So put people in jail. I know 23 people have been arrested. But beyond that, keep them there. Charge them with something. Make them think twice about doing this again. My mom used to say that all the time when she would see graffiti. She would say, if I was in charge of the world and I saw somebody, and I could do whatever I wanted, I would say one year of jail. And I would say to my mom, that's one year of jail. And she would say, it would make people think twice. You wanna do it? You think it's worth a year in jail? Go ahead. But you're gonna think about it for a minute. You're gonna take it. - We're doing jail right away. No trial, no nothing, right to jail. - That's actually a direct recording of my mom, believe it or not. But it would make you think twice. You would have to really consider the pros and cons. The pro, you ruined the freedom bell, I guess. If that's a pro for you. The con, you're gonna be in jail for a year. The choice is yours. Dave, you're up next on The Grace Curly Show. Go ahead, Dave. - Hi Grace, how are you? - Go, what's going on? - Hey, so I'm thinking that Kamala is the sacrificial analyst. Let's throw her up there. Because look, she's far left of Bernie. So she's so far left that, I mean, they don't want to take somebody off the bench, put them up there and serve them up with Donald Trump, who we know, look, if he doesn't win a selection, then I don't know what to do. I don't know what we can do if he doesn't win a selection, when the man was shot at. So I just think that, and they know she's a, she's a fairly useless idiot. She really is. If you think about the things that she said and what she's done, I really think they just throw her up there. Democrats don't give a damn about their own. They're throwing her to the wolves. They're putting her up there and she's just dumb enough to go along and say, oh, I'll do it. You see, that's my feeling, that's my thought process. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just, I don't, there's no way this woman, that Kamala Harris is fit to be president. - Well, Dave, here's what I'll tell you. You should read, you should go to the Federalist and read a piece by David Harsani, because you could be right, you could be wrong, but you're definitely not the only one who feels that way. He's saying that no legitimate person with potential as far as being a powerful politician or someone who could be president would ever wanna run after this bleep show. And so I think it goes to what you're saying, which is they don't wanna waste any of their good candidates and ruin their chance at the next time around. So they figure, hey, we'll use Kamala Harris. Now, keep in mind, the money is a factor. They can transfer the money to Kamala. They couldn't transfer it to anyone else. So I think that's a part of it too. But good point, and also you mentioned her being the more liberal of Bernie Sanders. That was from a gov track website. It was a record that showed that in 2019, she was a more liberal senator than Bernie Sanders. You know what happened to that gov track website over the last 24 hours? It was deleted. If you go there now to see that record, her voting record in 2019, and how she voted left of "ba ba ba" Bernie Sanders, you won't be able to find it. This is all part of, it's not rewriting history. Like I'm using that as hyperbole. They're literally trying to rewrite, or in this case, delete history in hopes that you're so stupid that you just won't remember. We've got Woker Joe coming up next, get on the lines now, it's 844-542-42. So much more after the break. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Live from the Aviva Trathria Studio. - Welcome back everyone to The Grace Curly Show. Today's poll question is brought to you by J.J. Manning Auctioneers. Whether residential, commercial, or land, J.J. Manning can get your property sold now to learn more contact Charlie Gill at 800-521-0111, or go to J.J. Manning.com. With over 16,000 sales and satisfied clients, you can be the next one. Jared, what is the poll question, and what are the results thus far? - Today's poll question, which you can vote in at gracecurlyshow.com, is what will be Biden's lasting legacy? The border, Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Gaza, Afghanistan, withdrawal, or hunter? I'm going to say the border. - The border in the lead, 67%, 22% for Afghanistan, all others receiving votes. - All righty, we have Taylor Cormier in studio with us now. We're gonna take your calls for Woker Joke. You guys know how this works. You call in, Taylor's gonna read you a headline. You have to tell us, is it woke as if it's real, it's scary, and it's real, or is it a joke that somebody here make it up out of whole cloth. Woker Joke is brought to you by Aviva Trathria, a gift card to Aviva Trathria, is the perfect gift for any occasion. Pick one up in any of their locations. To find the one nearest you, go to AvivaTrathria.com. And also, we are going to be having a live remote at Aviva Trathria in Rochester on August 9th. And if you spend $20, you can get a free copy of Paperboy. So, very exciting stuff there. You don't wanna miss that. It's been a while since we've hit the road. And I did wanna let people know, I'm getting a few texts about Biden's address last night, and an important part of the fallout from that is now Trump's team, his legal team, is asking that he get equal time. They feel as though what Biden did last night was essentially stumping for Kamala, and it's only fair that Donald Trump get 11 minutes of air time. - That's interesting. - Yeah, see, I tend to agree with them because the whole point of the speech wasn't to say, to let people know that he's going through cognitive decline or to reveal this big secret, the point of the speech was to say, now it's time to pass the torch to Kamala. So, it really was like 11 minutes of a free ad. - I would say, I don't know, it's a tough one to call. I don't think they'll rule in his favor. Let's put it that way. - Yeah, I think that's probably a safe bet. All right. - From the face of it, they're good stories on his face. Let's face it. All right, everyone, it is time for Woke or Joke. - Everything Woke turns to shit, okay? ♪ I started a joke ♪ (laughing) - Take care, Wokeers. (laughing) - The word Woke means loser. (laughing) ♪ I'm the joke on me ♪ (laughing) - I should mention that Joe Biden is able to give that 11-minute address, and that's supposed to be no violation of anything, but when KJP is going to comment on it today, I guarantee you she does her favorite trick. It invokes the Hatch Act, which she is want to do. That's always her get out of jail free card. All right, Taylor Cormier is in studio. He's going to read you the headlines. Let's start today. Let's start with Ed. You're first up, Ed, are you ready for your headline? - Yes, I am. - All right, Ed, here is your headline. Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood to make trolley an EV in effort to teach kids about environmental responsibility. (dramatic music) - Joke. - It is a joke. (bell dinging) - By the way, that was a joke. That's not true. - Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood. - You don't like when people say joke with a certain tone that you feel diminishes like what you've tried to do. Like if they're overly confident, like joke, you get very, I can tell you get perturbed. - Why shouldn't I? This is my intellectual property. - That's very true. That says a lot. - Some of it's Jarrus intellectual property and I'm offended on his behalf. - Very good. John, you're next up. Are you ready for your headline, John? - Yes. - All right, John, here's your headline. I deeply regret writing an elephant on holiday this year. We should all make that ethical choice. (dramatic music) - That sounds woke. - It is woke. - Oh, it's a real one. - Yes, this is true. - Not a joke. - Not a joke. - This is Chris Peckham, a naturalist and he writes in The Guardian that he made the mistake one time many years ago when they were on holiday, I believe in India, they went on a safari to see tigers in their natural habitat and the only way to do that to travel through the jungles is to ride on elephants. - Is that not kosher anymore to ride on an elephant? - I guess not. - But I would think it would be, I think it would be more humane than riding on a horse because elephants are so big, there's no way they can feel the weight of you on top of them. - Right, right. And I think they're, tigers don't really go for elephants because they're too big. - So what's so bad about it? - Because you're using the elephants for your own benefit. - Oh. - They're enforced labor. Pretty much. - Off the bed, any animals. (laughing) - He says, I remember having a conversation with my stepdaughter and asking if we really wanted to do this, we discussed what the elephants might think about it and I insisted, I insisted we visit the place they were kept rather than just jump on them at the side of the road. But today I would make a different decision based on ethics alone. - Well not that easy to say after you've already had the fun of riding the elephant. Now you're telling, so you get to ride the elephant and then you come to all of us and say, well, you guys shouldn't ride elephants. Easy for you to say, you already got to have all your fun. - I've ridden an elephant. - Have you? - I have. - Where? - When I was a kid. - Oh, I like this right here. - Yeah. - I'm sure I did too. - Okay. - I actually, I have a photo. - So now you can say that as well, you've ridden an elephant. - I just, the whole thing about how the animal feels, it's starting to sound like Howie when he does that PETA segment and he's talking about, how do you know the blueberries feelings aren't hurt? Don't eat me, I'm a blueberry. - The fact of the matter is that those elephants were probably working exclusively for our gratification and that is not okay, writes Chris Beckham. - So this is- - I've never heard of such a brutal and shocking injustice that I cared so little about. - So this isn't like white guilt, this is human guilt, species guilt. - Correct. - And he goes on to name a few other examples of animals that are being used for our entertainment purposes. - I'm sure he's enjoyed all of the entertainment. Now he's just here to reign on our parade. - Basically, what do you think about elephants in the circus? Do you think they should be not used in the circus? - I don't know, the only thing I can speak to is I recently went to the zoo and I was not crazy about seeing, I think it was, is it Little Joe or Big Joe, the one, the gorilla who escaped? Remember he escaped a few years ago in Boston, he was running all around. I didn't like seeing the gorillas being in the zoo, I don't know why. - Joe. - It made me sad. I couldn't even explain why, 'cause and I asked the lady, I'm like, did they like it here? And again though, it's like that guy trying to understand the elephant. She's like, the lady at the zoo is like, I think so, I think they like it. I'm like, do they seem happy? - We put a complaint that box out, we haven't gotten that other than yet. - Then she did say to me, she's like, well-- - Mighty Joe Young, is it? - No, there was, I think it was either. - That's a movie. - Jared, can you do a little research for me? It was a Big Joe or Little Joe. - Little Joe. - He escaped from the zoo and she told me that after he escaped, they had to put like an electric fence thing above the-- - Oh, that's awful. - Yeah, above the thing so that he would-- - Little Joe was the 300 pound silver back that escaped his enclosure. - Oh, I remember that. - And you know what, she told me he did afterwards, and I hope I'm not throwing him under the bus here, but she told me that later-- - I tried to get on one of those buses. - She told me later that they took the baby, he took one of the baby gorillas to test out the electric fence. - Oh my gosh. - 'Cause he wanted to get out again. So I just, I can't imagine that that is the sign that they're very happy there. But again, I don't want to throw the people on the zoo under the bus 'cause they were doing a very good job. I don't know. - Walkers. - I don't know what I'm saying. - They're electrifying baby gorillas. Can you believe this? - Ugh, let's go to Bob. You're up next on The Grace Curly Show. Are you ready for your headline, Bob? - If they am, Grace, thank you. - All right, Bob, here's your headline. - "Zoo's Concerned as Gorillas Become Hooked on Smartphone Videos." - Well, they sound like they're smart enough to use a baby gorilla to buy a thing. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's woke. - That is true. It is from the San Diego Zoo. - Not a joke, not a joke. - The smartphones are so addictive, it's the blue light. The people that are visiting the gorillas are showing the gorillas' videos of other gorillas or basically just anything. There's some people that go to the zoo strictly to show gorillas' videos, yes. - No. - Yes. - What? - A man who is seen wearing a gorilla shirt and engaging with one of the animals by showing him his smartphone through the glass told the Wall Street Journal, "This is my happy place." A woman who's-- - Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I'm sorry. (upbeat music) - This is, this is honestly, and I read a lot of upsetting news, this is upsetting. Read me that again. - This is my happy place. - No, before that. - A man who was seen wearing a gorilla shirt and engaging with one of the animals by showing him his smartphone through the glass told the Wall Street Journal. A woman who spoke to the newspaper, meanwhile, began tearing up when she considered losing access to the gorilla enclosure, insisting that any enrichment is good enrichment. - Well, just stop showing him the videos on your phone. - But I don't know, maybe they just don't have any other way of connecting to the gorillas. - You can go to a zoo, look at the gorillas and not take out your cell phone and start showing them videos. I just don't-- - Listen, if we stop showing them videos, they're gonna put their babies on electric fences. - I just, people are, people are strange. Like, let's go to the zoo and show the gorilla's videos. - Weird times, man, weird times. - Have you, all right, so what's different about going, have you seen the videos of people showing gorillas magic tricks? - No. - Have you never seen those? - No. - The gorillas freak out. It's funny, I'll show you during the break. - But magic tricks to me, that's-- - But it's a form of entertainment, it's illusion. - But are they showing them in real life or on video? - In real life. - Yeah, I don't mind that. - It's tricking them, it's an illusion, it's not reality. - I don't know, this is one of those. - Should humans be interacting with gorillas? - Sometimes you argue with me about something and we get so lost in it and I'm not sure that I believe what I even believe. I don't know, you're right? Sure, don't show them. - Oh, that's not fun. - You want them to see the videos. Okay, show them the videos. - I don't care. - I give up, I'm waving the white flag on this. - Show them, show them King Kong on a big screen. - Whatever you want. - Whatever you want. Jonathan, you're up next on Woker Joke. Are you ready for your headline, Jonathan? - Oh, yeah, I'm all right. - Okay, here we go. - Jonathan, here's your headline. NAACP president pardons Biden's racist remarks. He's of a different generation. - Uh, I'm gonna say joke. - That is a joke, it is. - By the way, that was a joke, it's not true. - I thought that was a really good one. That one would have fooled me, honestly. - Good luck in your submersible, Jonathan, on your way to the Titanic. Lord. - Tony, you're up next on Woker Joke. Are you ready for your headline, Tony? - I am. - All right, Tony, here is your headline. Devious scientists scan people's brains while they watch video of themselves singing karaoke. - I'm gonna go with Woke on that one. - It is Woke, it is true. - Not a joke, not a joke. - Wait a second, can you read me that one again? I'm sorry, I-- - Devious scientists scan people's brains while they watch video of themselves singing karaoke. - Okay, now are they happy watching themselves singing karaoke? - No, and that's the whole point of the study. - Desigration? - Like they're dying inside. A group of researchers wanted to uncover the mysteries behind blushing, and what causes blushing? What purpose does blushing serve as a human? I don't think they had any conclusive-- - What a cruel experiment. - Mark's here. - You know what it's probably like when we first started this show, the mail-or-manager used to tell me, you know, you should really listen to yourself back because it's a good way to improve. And she was right, and I have, but in the beginning, listening to myself, "Ah, this is a great girl, "I'm only for tuning in." It was like, "Oh my God, who is this woman?" And I have to imagine that's what it's like, but if you're singing, it's even worse. - So all of the research subjects were young women since only two men came forward. They sang a rendition of several popular songs, including "Hello" by Adele, and "Let It Go" from the movie "Frozen." - Ballads? - An evil selection because all our difficult tunes to pull off. - Yes, I was gonna say Celine Dion too. I bet it was on that list. - A week later, the researchers then brought the participants back into the lab, put them in an MRI scanner to monitor brain activity, slapped temperature sensors on their cheeks and had them watch not only their own performances, but some of the other participants too. Unsurprisingly, a lot of blushing ensues. - Can I ask a question? You might not have this detail. Were they, for the original video of them singing karaoke, were they having any sort of cocktails? - I doubt it. I think that might throw off the-- - The experiment. - Yeah. - You probably don't blush when you watch yourself back. You're probably like, "Man, I sound good." - Not always. - Oh, he's so humble, he's so modest. But you wouldn't have a full body cringe watching yourself. - No. - Yeah, 'cause otherwise, you're in the wrong line of work. All right, do we have time for one more? - Sure. - Tony, you're the last one on "Woke or Joke." Are you ready for your headline, Tony? - I'm ready. - All right, Tony, here's your headline. Surprise research finds men are judged more harshly than women for sleeping around. - Ah, I'm gonna go with Joke. - It's not a joke. - Wow, this is another study. - Not a joke, not a joke. - We don't really have time to get into it, but male targets seem to be judged more harshly for having more sexual partners, an example of a reverse sexual double standard that the researchers did not expect. - Wow. - Very male and successful. - Okay, thank you, Taylor. Cormier, a great Woke or Joke. Thank you everyone for participating. Thank you, Aviva Tractoria for sponsoring this fan favorite segment, and we will be right back. - You're listening to "The Grace Curly Show." (dramatic music) - This is "The Grace Curly Show." (upbeat music) - She had them all attacking the fences when the feeders came. - The fences are electrified, all right? - That's right, but they never attacked the same place twice. They were testing the fences for weaknesses systematically. (dramatic music) - They remember. - Is that Jurassic Park? You know, I've never, I've never seen it. - Watch it. - Should I watch it? - Must watch. - Where can I watch that? Check it out for me, Taylor. If it's on Hulu, Prime or HBO, I'll watch it tonight. 844-542-42, I did wanna give everyone the take that Politico had on these crazy lunatics, burning American flags. You know, they're burning American flags, they're burning these like weird dummies of BB Netanyahu, they're spray painting, vandalizing the Freedom Bell, they're ruining monuments, they're getting in fist fights, they're getting arrested, and what's Politico's main takeaway? Republicans pounce after Netanyahu protesters burn US flags and wave Hamas ones instead. - Oh, right, because we're the story. It's not the people who are waving the Hamas flags that are the focus of your story. It's the people reacting to it. It's the people who have the audacity to notice it. The same way that these Republicans, these right-wing agitators, remember how yesterday we pointed out that Axios is now saying that Kamala Harris never had the title Borders are, and then certain journalists on Twitter, real journalists, not pretend journalists, said, "But you, you culture the Borders are. "Here's an article in which you said that." And then they came back and said, "Oh, well, we actually were one of the people "that cut one of the outlets that called her Borders are." It's like, why is it about the fact that we're pointing out the obvious? Why don't you focus on what I would say is the lead here, which is why are there so many people in DC burning American flags? And why did Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris seem to be more supportive of those people than our ally, BB Netanyahu? We'll be right back. We got a lot more to get to. Don't go anywhere. (upbeat music)