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Sean “El Jefe” McDonaugh Gives Us An Update On The Karen Read Trial | 7.24.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 2
(upbeat music) - Better strap yourself in. It's time for the Howie Car Show. - Well, obviously on many levels, I'm really sad. Joe Biden is a patriot. - Bush. - Biden relented, putting his country before his own ambition. - This notion that the media is trying to peddle that he's like George Washington refusing power for the good of the country. He had no choice. - They were knifing him in the back. - It too, Brutus? - Live from the Matthews Brothers Studio. - Why was President Trump not kept off the stage? - I don't know. - Why was Crooks allowed to get off A-Chots? - We don't know the answer to that. - These are just racist dog whistles. Whenever you hear DEI, I want you to think about the N word. I want you to think about racial slurs. That's what they actually mean. (air whooshing) - To me, the values of adversity, equality, inclusion are literally, and that's not kidding, the core strengths of America. And start to the top of the vice president. - Well, this is very awkward. - Rum swabs, hacks, and moon bounce beware, it's... (upbeat music) Howdy car. (buzzer beeping) - Good work, Jared, putting that in there. (laughing) It's okay for Biden to say DEI. Just like it's okay for Biden to talk about, he didn't want his kids growing up at a racial jungle or being friends with all those segregationists, Democrat senators, the old guys back in the '70s. That was all okay. But, or talk about Barack Obama being the first clean, clean, articulate black candidate. But, you know, it's like, I always go back to the tar baby. You know, John Kerry said something was a tar baby and nobody blinked. - Big tar baby out there. - Right, there you go. And then Mitt Romney says it, I don't know, eight years later, and oh my God, he's the biggest racist since Robert Byrd. Oh no, you can't say Robert Byrd 'cause he's a Democrat. He's the biggest racist since George Wallace. Oh, you can't say that 'cause he's a Democrat, though. If it weren't for double standards, they would have no standards at all. Angus King was another no-show from the state of Maine. The quote, unquote, independent. Good Lord, 844-542-42, 201. Do you think BB got the cold shoulder because he didn't buy a Hunter painting? I heard they're reduced, reduced all sales final. They must go. By the way, speaking of something, a sale, you're not gonna regret the gift certificates, the cheap bastard deals to Moby Dick's are gone. They always go fast, but even if you didn't get one, if you're down on the cape, that end of the cape, I never know whether to say the upper or the lower end. I think they call it the lower, and even though it seems to be reversed, but down east, I never have, not being a nautical guy. I've never been able to keep my terminology straight. But if you're on that end of the cape, you really owe it to yourself to get to Moby Dick's on Red on Route 6 there. 844-542-42, 844-542-42. You know, I really, I thought about not playing this cut because it's just so obnoxious, but I want you to see how shameless and how despicable people like Adam Sheff are. So today, Rae, Christopher Rae, another shameless, despicable hack, the head of the FBI, the director, is in front of a house committee talking about the assassination and dodging and weaving and swerving as he always does. Maybe a little less than normal today, but still pretty bad. And so Adam Sheff takes the opportunity to take a cheap shot at the guy who was shot in the head. 10 days ago, it's really appalling what he did. Even by Adam Sheff's standards, this I think is a new low, cut 18. Do candidates for the FBI have to go through background checks? Yes. Would someone with dozens of felony convictions survive a background check for the Bureau? No. So they would never be hired by the Bureau? No. Well, clearly the Bureau has, you don't have to comment on this, I know you won't, but clearly the Bureau has higher standards for their hiring than one of America's great political parties. Let me turn to the events of the tragic shooting. At long last, Mr. Sheff, have you no shame? Have you no shame after lying to the American people? Referring to those, that kangaroo court in New York City as a real court of law. Reminding us of the hit men that were employed by the FBI, just in the Boston office alone, and you'll notice I'm using plural, hit men. And you know, you have the audacity after Donald Trump barely survives an assassination attempt to just put that kind of smear out there. You're the one who said you have, where's the evidence, by the way, on the Russian collusion? You said many times you had it, where is it? Where's the compromise? Where's the evidence from the Ukrainian phone call that you totally made up in a congressional hearing so that you were immune from any libel or slander defamation laws? Why do you embarrass those of us from Massachusetts by having been born here and raised in Framingham until you were 12 years old? - And if there's anybody who should be able to read a room, it's a guy with eyes like that. - And the Swalwell went in. I don't think we have any of the Swalwell stuff, but it was just, it was just as bad. It was, these people are so despicable. That was just a, that thing with a cheetah the other day where they were like acting as if they were normal Americans, that was an aberration. They're off the wagon again. They're back to being what they were, 844, 542, 42. This is a representative Dan Bishop. He's a Republican from North Carolina. And I thought this was a legitimate shot that he took at Director Ray from the FBI, asking him when they're gonna get some answers. Cut 11. - So here's the thing. While we wait, maybe for months, and I hate to say this, I'm not trying to take a pot shot, but the country went for years with the understanding that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation is offered by respected former Intel officials, and the whole time the FBI had the laptop, and it didn't let that happen in public until finally offering testimony in a case. To the degree we wait to hear as a country and as a Congress, what has happened in this event, because the FBI is conducting an investigation, it provides quarter for the US Secret Service, not perhaps to reckon with the problems that are obvious to everyone. I think that's a very legitimate point. But as I said earlier, you know, Cheetah kept saying, she kept deferring, saying, well, you know what's all eh, I can't say 'cause there's an FBI investigation going on. So see if you can guess what Director Ray says when the Congressman Dan Bishop of North Carolina continues questioning him, cut 12. Why was President Trump not kept off the stage? - We don't know the answer to that, but I wanna be clear, and this is important because I think it goes to questions that I can and cannot answer our investigation. The FBI's mandate is focused on the shooter, and all things related to his attack. Now obviously, I understand very much the intense interest and focus on the Secret Service's performance, actions, decision-making, et cetera. There are two separate after-action reviews that the DHS Inspector General and the outside independent panel have been convened that are focused on that. Now, our investigation will-- - Everybody understands it. - You'll understand it. - You'll obviously overlap with that. - Oh, are they gonna do the after-action review? Oh, okay, there's gonna be a blue ribbon commission that's going to be investigating. 508, please, how we stop reminding us that the turd is from framing him, let alone Massachusetts. I can't forget it. I live in Wellesley, okay? It's hard for me to forget it. There's just nadic between me and his hometown, okay? That's why I'd like to, I need to go to get some closure on him being from Massachusetts, but sometimes he actually comes back here. I don't know if he's like going to Harvard Law School reunions where they all talk about how they're gonna try to take away everybody's civil liberties when we complete the fundamental transformation of Americans with third world health home or wherever. 844, 500, 42, 42, 844, 500, 42, 781. I'm in Truro right now on vacation. My family's gone there three times so far, meaning Moby Dix. The steamers are the sweetest ones I've ever had. The lobster was juicy and the shrimp cocktail, huge. Tod the owner walks around and checks in on the customers. I thought it might be a tourist trap, but it's a really good restaurant with a fun atmosphere. You can bring your dog, too. Here, it's open air. It's, I mean, you can go inside, but you can, you know, a larger part of it is open air, and that's the place to be in the, you know, in this kind of weather. So it's a fantastic place. We're sold out, but you should definitely get down there if you get a chance. 844, 500, 42, 42. I'm Howie Carr. Howie will be right back after this short break. (dramatic music) The emperor of hate, Howie Carr, is back. (upbeat music) 844, 500, 42, 42. Netanyahu called the Hamas hippies on campus. Iran's useful idiots. That's, I think, a really good way to put it. That was a brilliant speech that he delivered today to the joint session of Congress, and he's going to, Kamala couldn't make it. And a lot of the Democrats couldn't make it today. I don't know how many, but a huge percentage of them, including a bunch from Massachusetts, at least four from Massachusetts. And out of what, 12, 12 members of that whole congressional delegation, 11 or 12, we can't get, we can't lose the seats fast enough, in my opinion. I think there were about 14 congressmen when I was a kid, now there's nine or 10, good. We're not losing them fast enough, in my opinion. But there was a great, great speech. 844, 500, 42, 42. Protesters flood DC streets amid Netanyahu visit. Did they all take a day off from work? Did they phone in sick to their jobs? Palestinian flags seen flying outside Union Station after protesters clash with police. Oh, isn't that great? Today's poll question is brought to you by Eden Rafferty, attorneys at law. If you need advice on family law, check out my Meet the Expert podcast with attorney Joe Roach, wherever you get your How We Car Show podcast. Jared, what's the poll question? What are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at How We Car Show dot com, is should President Trump stop having outdoor rallies as recommended by Secret Service? I know I'm in the minority here, but I say yes. 26% now say yes, 74% still saying no. All right, 844, 542, 42. Chris, you're next with How We Car, go ahead, Chris. Hey, how are you, am I on with you here? Yes, you are. Oh, it's wonderful to talk to you. Yeah, Allison, I'm out here in the Cape. I live out here, live out here for quite some time. And we're dealing with this windmill issue where the broken shards and the pieces of styrofoam are landing on beaches on the Cape now. I don't know if you're aware of that. No, I'm certainly aware of it, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's the thing, we're, you know, listen to Tommy learn earlier with the fucking, what to say there, and she sounds like, you know, Trump needs every good piece of ammunition he can to use against Kamala. She's a green new deal, that. Right. And if he can, if he can use this, this ecological disaster to throw at her, to wrap that around her head a little bit and let that dangle for a while, I think that might be something that he can, you know, really get a foothold on. Well, you know, no, I agree, Chris, you know, the Republican state senate candidate, Chris Lozen went down to Nantucket on Saturday while the, while the, the senator, the state senator, Julian Cyr from, from Provincetown, was partying with Kamala Harris. I mean, if she really cared about it, wouldn't she and all the other Democrats, instead of going to the fundraiser at the, you know, at the tip of Cape Cod, wouldn't they have gone down to Nantucket to walk the beaches? I mean, where, where's the congressman? Where's the governor? Where are the senators? This is, this is a disaster. And they're, and they're giving you the, you guys, the runaround down there, Chris. Let me read you this. This is from the Nantucket current. GE, they manufactured it. Do you know what they're blaming it on? Chris? - Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. - They're blaming it on a manufacturing deviation. The old manufacturing deviation excuse. - And of course this is never going to happen again. - We are working, this is from the, this is from the GE CEO. We are working with urgency to scrutinize our operations across offshore wind. Pace matters here. How about the summer, Chris? Does the summer matter as much as the pace? But we are going to be thorough instead of rushed. Vineyard wind and GE have multiple vessels at sea searching and recovering the pieces of fiberglass and styrofoam like material released from the blade. Don't you feel more assured now that they're, they're really, they're, they're really doing their best. They're darndest, Chris. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, this will never happen again. - You can trust, you could trust Vineyard wind and GE. They're not like the others. Thanks for the call. You know what George Bush during the 88 campaign against Dukakis, the Boston Harbor was a disaster. And Dukakis hadn't done anything about it till a federal judge ordered him to clean up the harbor, ordered the state to clean up the harbor. And George Bush came here to Boston and rode around in a boat and just to highlight how badly Dukakis had botched the operation. And this, you're right. This is a, it's a local issue kind of, but these windmills are everywhere. And if you don't have any, if you're not on the ocean, they've got solar farms and they're ripping up, you know, forested areas or cropland to put on these silly solar panels that are also pretty dangerous. Leslie, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Leslie. - Hi, Howie. I want to know, do you, I heard that Kamala Harris is filling the polls for Trump, is that true? - You know, that's what's known as Adjut Prop, Leslie. I wouldn't worry about the polls. Don't worry about him when he was ahead last week. And they're saying that she's closing in. She's getting this honeymoon. It's like a, you know, it's like the, the ascension of a new leader in North Korea or the old Soviet Union. Don't worry about the polls. She's, you know, this is, it's a long way to election day. And, you know, the Democrats are falling in behind her. These are the same people who are telling you that she's, she's a powerful candidate. These are the same people who, before June 27th, were telling you that Joe Biden was more cogent than ever and that he was conducting a Socratic dialogues in the Oval Office every day with his aides. Don't, I wouldn't worry about it. You know, mainstream media, state-run media is nothing but white noise. Turn it off. Just don't pay any attention to it. You know, they say silos. Every American now is in a silo of his own information. Stay in or stay out of any silo that has MSNBC or CNN or the New York Times or the Boston Globe or the Washington Post. 844-542-42. I'm Howie Carr. [MUSIC PLAYING] Live from the Matthews Brothers Studios. News broke late yesterday that the Massachusetts state police have three more of their esteemed troopers on the griddle in the internal affairs unit. Two of them are two lieutenants and a sergeant. So they're all officers of one form or another. And then a couple hours later, they announced that, oh, one of the lieutenants wasn't actually, he was under investigation, but they couldn't find sufficient evidence to charge him with anything. So thanks. I'm sure Lieutenant Panning appreciated the correction. But this all involves the Carr and Reed case. These are all guys that have worked for the Norfolk County District Attorney Michael Meatball Morrissey. And these are big developments, I think, in the Carr and Reed case, which continues. And one guy who predicted the Tully, Brian Tully, the head of the Norfolk County DA's investigative unit, the state police unit. One guy who predicted it is a retired DEA agent, Sean McDonough. He's originally from the town of Canton. And he now lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida. He has his own podcast on YouTube, his own YouTube channel, going through the motions. And Sean called us last October. I wanted to talk to him today. Sean, Sean, I told you this morning one of the greatest pleasures in life is being able to say I told you so. Isn't it? Oh, how are you? Yes. Listen, I'm being kind of reserved here because I have a lot of detractors. But I did call this last October. And it is kind of nice to see this vindication. So what is going on here? I mean, the tractors, as you call them, the trolls, they're calling you-- when I announced this today, you and Turtle Boy were coming on. They called you stooges. They asked if I'm on the take. But why don't you explain to them what's going on? Issue your comments directly to the trolls. I've done this for over a year now. So a year ago, I got involved with this case. And within two or three weeks, I had the whole file that Natalie, this girl from this woman from California had. She gave me everything. And I was the absolute wrong person at this particular time to have, because I knew exactly where the federal investigation was going. And how do you know Natalie-- you always mention Natalie. How do you know Natalie's was on the level? Where did-- what's her credentials here? Well, Natalie was the intermediary between Karen Reed and Aiden Carney. All the information flow from Karen to Natalie, Natalie, to Aiden. And of course, with Aiden, he was doing the shows, left or right. I thought I'd tell you the truth. I only saw us with the documents in the case in Aiden's podcast. That's it. Lo and behold, it was a year ago this time, probably a couple of weeks before. He reaches out to me, unbeknownst-- I didn't know who this person was. I had no idea. Nobody knew who this person was. And next thing, she's knocking on my door. So I was in the Facebook groups and a close confidant of mine in these Facebook groups. I asked, I said, who is Natalie? She was Sean. Please, stay away from this woman. I said, why? She's crazy. I said, crazy. So anyway, the bottom line was, her whole thing was, she felt that she got scorned by Karen and Aiden. And she needed a friendship. And I said to her, I said, come to Papa. I'm your friend. And with that, she gave me everything. She gave me documents that noted how close the FBI was, not only in 2023. But in March of 2022 and all these things. And so when I got involved, I had to fit on it because I didn't want to ruffle any feathers. Well, when Aiden got arrested in October for the first time, she reached out to me because she had been gone missing. I said, OK, this is it. She went dark. She probably went to the other side. And of course, she did. And she told me, she goes, by the way, Sean, I've given everything to the state police. I said, great. And that's all I needed. So a week later, I found out that Kelly was heading out to California, which he should, because any good investigator should be with the person that's going to provide an information. And when I found that out, I said, beautiful-- This was Karen Reed's investigator, right? This was Karen Reed's. This was Karen Reed's the person that helped her funnel the information to Aiden County. Aiden will explain it to you when he gets on. But this person-- so I knew, I knew, when he was going to California, he thinks he's going to get the mother load of trying to get Aiden jammed up even more. What he didn't realize is that he found out that his boss was being wiretapped for months. Oh, this is telling you're talking about Kelly. When he went out to California, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Right. This is telling. So when-- this is beautiful. And I said, I said, Kelly, on your right back, when you're reading all those documents, your life is going to change forever. And it didn't take that long. But now we know why. So he's slowly going to be out the door. Because this is how they do it. Because the union, they have to go through process. They have to do these guys' process. But just like they did with Procta, they put him on an I/A investigation. And now he's one foot out the door. Same thing will happen with Tully and with Lieutenant. And as far as standing goes, he's got his own precious-- he'll have his own precious little special place when the Birchmore case goes down. And the Birchmore case is this 23-year-old woman who was groomed by the Stoughton police, which is next door to Canton. And she, quote-unquote, committed suicide when she was pregnant by one of the Stoughton police officers. And that case was ruled a suicide. But it appears that it was not, to put it mildly. And it was covered up by a lot of the same people that are involved in the Karen Reed case. So they're saying, well, they called up Grace's show today before mine. And it sounded like he was calling for meatball Morrissey's office, or maybe the back room of DNA pizza. And he said, well, the federal grand jury hasn't issued any indictments. And they only have 18 months to in session. So they may have already wrapped this thing up, but they never announced that they've wrapped it up. How do we know that the federal investigation is ongoing, Sean? And again, you're a former DEA agent, so you're the right person to ask this. I've conducted many grand jury investigations. And with these people don't realize, the federal government is not going to pout out to any one agenda. They're going to do it when they're ready. And yes, it's 18 months. But then they can impale a whole new grand jury. Let's say that the grand jury subpoenas, in this case, would breed, were handed out in April, OK? So we get April, April, May, June, July, August. You still have to like September 8 on this particular grand jury. And here's the other thing. They could have already sealed these indictments. And they're just tightening up all the rest, all the other loose ends. That's what they're doing. And you're saying this is a civil rights case more than anything else, that they violated the civil rights of Karen Reed, among other things. Oh, yeah. As far as we're holding this capitol, in those eight letters that were unsealed by Ted Daniels, it shows the whole mechanism between what when Morrissey was trying to figure out what they had. And it shows clearly when the OPR in Department of Justice and Maine Justice in DC said, not so fast out, we don't agree with any of your assessments. And they basically shut them down. So there's a lot of stuff to be interpreted in these letters. But let's forget. Alan Jackson only put six witnesses on for his client who was facing life in prison. That should tell everyone the whole story. And I believe when that case was ruled on jury, that case died because now they got the time. Now, Levy was asking for time in December. The US attorney. He's got all the time they were, right. Yeah. Josh Levy, yes. So do you think there will be a second trial? Even on the one manslaughter charge, even if they throw out the other two, where the jury is the jury founder unanimously not guilty. And they should be thrown out. Do you think there'll be any trial again? Well, who they're going to have to present the case? You got the lead investigator almost out the door. You got the two supervisors who were also investigating. Who else they're going to put on the stand if they're gone? Trooper Paul. I don't see this happening. Trooper Paul, he's taken some new-- he's taken summer courses at Mass Bay Community College in Massasoyat, getting ready for his expert testimony in the next trial. Oh my god. They better do something with that kid. And they're so bad. It's because, listen, Howard, he was kept in the dark. These key cycles-- he had no clue how many times that college started and stopped after the seizure. They put him up to basically fry on that testimony. They really hung him up to drive. They did. Yeah. I don't think he could spell physics, let alone, you know, explain what happened in any of those moments. So he could spell stuff though. He could definitely spell stuff. The crime scene spoke to him. I told him how to spell stuff. Yeah, the crime scene. Yeah. Oh, god. So where is Brian? I keep asking myself this. I asked you this morning-- where the hell is Brian Higgins, the ATF agent, who had a proffer? It takes playing to people what a proffer is, by the way, a federal proffer. A proffer is-- so we know his common attorney is a former assistant US attorney, right? Yeah. He knows he interrupts. He got Brian a session with FBI and the US attorney and sat down with a proffer agreement. Basically, in layman's terms, you tell us everything you know. We will not use anything directly against you. This is an opportunity for you to work out a deal with us. If we like what you say, we'll offer you a plea deal. So he goes and he gives up everything, right? He talks about how the phones, how that he destroyed his phone, how Albert destroyed his phone, talked about-- we know he talked about the tall guy with doc hair. I mean, he had to say that because that was in his proffer. A lot of other things went in his proffer. Well, anyways, I guess he figured that he was going to get the sweet, like maybe probation deal, right? Right. Well, guess what? When you're a federal agent and you let a Boston cop die in your presence, and then you go six months later and testify in a state grand jury, you're getting zero breaks. And so I guess he figured, I'll take my chances. And so but where is he now? What is he-- he's kind of vanished from the face of the earth. You know, some of the callers have suggested he's in Witsack. But that's for guys like Steve Fleming who've already been convicted. That's not for just guys in hiding. And you can't put him in witness protection. Where the hell is he? Well, he's been looking for jobs. He tried to get a job back in his old stomping rounds with Cambridge Fire Department. They said, no way, Jose. And they got a case on him that was kind of like-- they gave a second eye to him about a shooting that went down. And they don't know if it was him that shot the guy. So anyways, there's all kinds of stuff about him. My thing about him is it's too late for him now. He had the chance. And now with Kelly, every prosecutor wants a cop but the higher up the chain, the higher up the chain, like a lieutenant or a captain or someone else. I mean, that's it. If they can get a guy on charges like that, they don't have a prayer. They don't have a prayer. A lot of speculation on social media that Proctor is-- he's really jammed up. He's not even getting paid. He has no health insurance left. He doesn't want to go back to whatever the hell he was doing before walking dogs or whatever. Has Proctor flipped? Listen, there's a guy that just surfaced. He seems to have some knowledge. He put up that he has. He's got some inside track. He talked code. He did give me some coded messages. And I said, OK, I kind of believe this guy, because he's talking the same language as I do. I don't-- honestly, I don't know. However, he should have taken my advice. Because now you see the stiff competition he has. I mean, let's say that if anyone else comes in the book, he's got stiff competition. You got to take a number and wait now. It's like being in the bakery on a Sunday morning, right? I'm telling you how, this case is perfect for the feds. I say that loosely, because they're going to have everyone wrapped up. And that's why they have such a high conviction rate. Only the dummies go to trial. And it's easy. I mean, let's say that only the dummies will go to trial. Yeah, the conviction rate is like 98%. I think when the feds strike. So-- I said the other night, time only helps this investigation and Karen Reed. But Karen Reed doesn't really need to spend another million bucks or whatever it is on legal fees. I mean, it's not so much whether Josh Levy's going to run out the clock and lose his job. I don't think this case goes forward, no matter who the president is, no matter who the US attorney is. But I mean, why should she have to go through another trial? No, that's true. And by the way, on that note, as far as the political end of this, I'm going to have a show tonight that's going to open up a lot of people's eyes. I hope you get a chance to watch this. I have two guests, but they have no idea the backstory I'm going to tell tonight. And it's going to be earth shaking. I'm just going to be earth shattering. And so I open up a lot of eyes. I've been working with this group for the past six months. And it's going to be amazing. Oh, you're going to have them on the air? I'm going to have two incredible guests on the air tonight. But I'm going to be giving a back story that's going to dovetail to their reasons to be on the show. It's going to be amazing. And then I'm going to get it to our friend, Tully and Sergeant Yuri. No wonder they were doing the duckies. They don't want any real crimes because the duckies are easy to-- Rubber duckies. --when you are on the work-- --did you do duckies? --they dusted those duckies for prints. Oh, my God. This guy called me out here, Sean. They're coming in with gloves on. That's the DNA stuff. They're coming in to see if my cotton is looking for hundreds of duckies. I'll tell people what that's all about. But you're on at 7 o'clock tonight. You're going up head to head an hour later against President Joe Biden. I think I'll be watching you, Sean. And go ahead. 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The problem with it is when you let somebody else bury the body, you have to worry about them getting jammed up. And they flip up just like the cops. If you're a trooper, you can trade up for a sergeant who trades up for a lieutenant, who trades up for a captain, who trades up for a lieutenant colonel, et cetera, et cetera. It's the same with mob guys. You just go higher up the scale. So the guy said, I can give you Frank Silemy. And so Frank Silemy was just walking around. He thought he was OK. He was testifying before committees. And then this guy, they'd dig up a body in Providence. And he's back in the can. And he never got out. He died in Springfield, Missouri, same place that Larry Bayoni and J.R. Russo died. You know, Cadillac Frank was a lot tougher and smarter than any of the coneheads. I knew Cadillac Frank. I didn't-- I don't know any of these coneheads, except for watching me in court. And I would have to agree with you that he was a lot smarter than they were. And he screwed up big time. 844, 500, 42, 42, we will be right back. We'll have a lot more. We have a lot more coming up on Howie Card. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] (upbeat music)