(upbeat music) - Greetings and welcome to Star Trek Pod. It's sometimes funny trying to be smart podcast covering all things new and classic Trek. Yum, yum. I am your Captain Mariah Gossett with me on the V-screen we have. - Clyde Haynes, let's do it. - Let's do it. - And me, Justice Forrest Saira, Paul Sattachit. (laughing) - Yeah, I went there. Yeah, I went there. No one defends Orion, that's me. I'm the defender of Orion. - The great defender of Orion's Paul Sattachit. Tonight we are gonna talk about some of our favorite moments from Star Trek Discovery. Let us know, tell us what some of your faves were. Clyde, how can people interact with us tonight in the chat if they wanna tell us about their favorite moments? - Braille, just send us something in Braille and we'll put our hands over it and figure out what it is. Now, if you're watching us live in the chat, then by all means, all we ask is that you type capital P, capital O, capital D, capital pod in the chat. And we will take a look at your musings, your thought, your ramblings, and we may even read them live on the show. And in a moment, you can type capital H F, capital H, capital F, capital H F, and give us your overall thoughts if you wanna let us know what some of your favorite moments from the season were. And if by chance you're one of our patrons, you can also leave us a message in the messages from the Menagerie. There are lots of ways that you can interact with us live kind of on the show. - Indeed. And Paul, let's say like people maybe are trying to get their friends into Star Trek and wanna like share this show with said friends. How can they do that? - First of all, friends do not get friends into Star Trek. Let's fit, let's get that out of the way. - And to me, you're trying to ruin their life and you want to get them down in Star Trek. - That's right. If you want to steal like, you know, basically hundreds of hours of their lives from them. 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And as much as I would enjoy trying to fit all of that into a singular pod, I feel like we should stretch it out because Star Trek Prodigy deserves that attention. So I think our plan for the show is we'll talk about two prodigy episodes per podcast episode that should hopefully give us plenty to chat about and to explore and love about that show and help us stretch out our watch time. But yeah, everyone should make sure you have saved it and you're ready to watch prodigy over on Netflix. Very exciting. Are y'all excited for prodigy? Don't jump in all at once, wow. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yes. - I'm gonna edit that 'cause wow. - I do appreciate prodigy. - Yeah, I'm excited. Voyager, Janeway. What are you like, guys? - Dow. - Oh, Janeway is your favorite captain. I get it. - Murph, we get to go back to Murph. - I mean, Murph is low key amazing. - No, I enjoy prodigy. Like, I think it's fun. I think what I did enjoy was waiting for prodigy. - It has been a long time. - Yeah, so, but like, you know, I think we're gonna see some. - I think Kean's picture is all excited for prodigy, not thrilled with dumping all 20 episodes at once. It's, yeah, it's gonna be a lot, but I'm excited to jump in. Okay, I think it is time for some messages from the Menagerie, which I'm gonna call for this week are hot freaks, if you will. Let's see, what do I wanna pick? That's what. (upbeat music) - Ah, freaks. - Just a classic deep V, hot break. Classic deep V. Okay, messages from the Menagerie. You've got Kean, who says my favorite disco moment was Michael learning about Spock's future, unifying the Vulcans and the Romulans. It's a great payoff for fans of disco, T.O.S. and T.N.G. watching Spock's speech from unification that feel that moment feels earned after seeing Michael and Spock reconcile in season two. We've got a lot of Spock Michael love. Paul, do you wanna read Karen's? - Sure, Karen says my absolute favorite moment is Michael and Spock in the gym. I felt like we learned a ton about each of these characters in one minute. It was also a wonderful example of how to have a difficult talk and how each party would be open. To the end, this scene stands out to me above many wonderful moments. - In deed. - In deedably. - In deedably. Okay, so the way I thought we would do this evening is we would each start with our number five, then we'll each do our number four, each do our three, two, and then one. And if someone has something on their list that overlaps, we can just talk about it at the same time, the first time it is brought up. Does that make sense to everybody? - I think that's totally fine. Although to be fair, I don't pay attention. So I just picked my top moments or thing in each season. I apologize. - That's fine. - I thought also works. - It should, you know, like, I think you muted Clyde, basically, 'cause you were cussing me out. - No, I was actually like, wow. I actually like what you did there. It's just I didn't quite rank them. I picked them, but I didn't rank them. - And I was gonna say, a lot of mine are in any particular order and I definitely have some honorable mentions. - Clyde, would you say this is a failure of leadership? - Absolutely not. - I brought a structure and left our own devices. This would have been a complete disaster. So no, I would not say it. - I'm not trying to lead a newbie. I'm just asking, I'm just asking questions. That's all I have. - I literally was speaking. - I was like, is this what? - Oh, did she try to, like, cut me out, but did she cut her out? - I had no idea what just happened. - No, I said, is this when you tell me I've been ousted and I go, bye-bye. - But, there you go. - No, come back here, Joe, stop doing that. I was literally thinking, when you started explaining, I was like, man, if not for Mariah, this thing would be all over the place. Like, she came in with structure. Like, we're gonna have a good conversation. - She's like, the Borg, he brings order to chaos. Good job. - I am the queen of the collective welcome. - Way to go, Borg, girl. - Borg, Queen, Mariah. - Okay, I will kick us off with my number five because I figure in time, for Pride Month, I had to choose a thing that meant so much to so many of us. And that was the tooth brushing scene with Paul, with Stamets and Colber. It was just such a classic, like, it reminded me of the tooth brushing scene from like, bring it on. There's just like, I feel like a trope of romance movies to have the tooth brushing, like, chemistry moment and to see that with a queer couple in Star Trek, it made me very, very happy. So that is the first memorable moment I wanted to bring up. What did y'all think of that particular scene or did you also have that somewhere on your list? - I did not have that on my list. - Nah. - I see, yeah, happy Pride, uh-huh, allies. I see you. - Hey, hey, I didn't get my like, like, Asian Pride Venmo, like, you know. (both laughing) - Mariah, I'm be honest with you. I respect what you've done. I have to disagree with you for the moment. If we are representing Pride Month, there are a number of other-- - Oh, most of my list is gay, so we'll get there. - Okay, I can't remember their name, but they were like the pirate captain. - Yeah, that's from Strange New Worlds. - Oh, Strange New Worlds, okay. - It's right. (both laughing) - Sorry. - No, Captain Angel, you mean? Yes, I'm sorry. - Captain Angel, yes. - Yeah, Captain Angel was very good. - I was good. - Clyde, what'd you get? What's your number five? - My number five, there were a few, man, because I didn't rank them. I'm gonna go. - So, I'm gonna just deviate some of mine I'm more thematic than an actual scene. - Oh, yeah, mine go off the rails eventually. We're starting with the small moment, and then I go wild, so don't worry about it. - I'm gonna run through my own rules, and then I quickly broke them all. - Then that makes me feel right at home. So, I'll say, action Saru, and the development of action Saru is my number five, because it really, like that metamorphosis and that transition, so if I had to put it down to a scene, it's when Saru didn't go through with the Vahai and he transformed into action Saru, because it honestly made me like him a lot more, and he added this, we always talk about the fact that they don't really have a security figure on discovery. It put him into this more commanding, kind of like, enforcer, kind of role, and I dug it, 'cause I just dug it. So, yeah, for number five, for me, it's action Saru. - Paul? - For me, it is basically Space Wheel with a stomachache. (clears throat) The time, you know, the time loop episode in season one. - Oh, the "Harry Met" episode? - That's right, but like, you know, hey, look at the Space Wheel. It's, this is her. - Yep, look! (laughs) - It's not like-- - I'm gonna throw up Harry Mudd. - That's right, so there's something really funny about having a Space Wheel in a shuttle bay, where you go like, "Oh, you know what? "I haven't seen this in Trek before." - Yeah, that was, I mean, we have transported a whale in a shuttle bay before, you know, the one with the-- - But that's a clean on ship, come on, come on. - That's true, that's true. - All right. - That was actually my number four. - Space Whale? - Harry Mudd in particular, so less whale, and more just Harry Mudd, Ryan Wilson. - Yeah. - And just loving that cheeky dynamic on the show. - I mean, I think that's probably my favorite episode of season one, just because it's so, it has the Michael, and what's that guy's name? I can't remember his name, people really like him a lot. - Ash Tyler? - Man, I was getting really close to removing Paul from the chat. (laughing) - You know, and as far as relationships, you know, like with that relationship in particular, that's where I go like, "Oh, I hope they get together." Nowhere else in, you know-- - That was a good chemistry episode for them. - Yeah. - I was going like, "Oh, this, like the episode is just-- - Sure. - Perfect season one. And I was going like, "Oh, this is exactly what the show can and should be in my opinion." - Yeah, I feel like the tone of that episode really came through in this final season in many ways, where it had that kind of like balance of humor and some more kind of singular episodic episodes. But all right, my number four is the scene where-- - Wait, wait, wait, wait, four-- - Transitions. - Do, do, do, do, do, do. - It is where Mir or Georgia says, "In my world, you are a pansexual to Stamets, initiating the idea of a threesome with Stamets and Culver." And then this really just leads me to say, all of Georgia is my number four. Anything and all things Georgia, specifically the TerraFirma episode, when we kind of finally got to say goodbye to Georgia, I thought they really did that character, like an incredible justice with the arc. And I'm really excited for the Section 31 movie and getting to see how they continue to expand on that. But just sexual tension with Georgia might just be like the blanketed statement for number four, 'cause I feel like that encompasses a lot. Also, when she tries to hook up with Linus, you know? - Yeah, nice. - She gets it all the way around, so yeah. - This is gonna, I'm gonna have a short list here. - Georgia was my number one. So for me, it's Burnham and Georgia. - Yeah. - And part of how I constructed some of my lists was just this idea of like, what makes this show, the show, like their elements that without this, the show just wouldn't quite have worked, or it worked really well when these elements were kind of inserted. And Georgia, the show was just different when Georgia was around. And in any scene, and the dynamic between her being ruthless, but also maternal, is just fascinating. - Like really clear that you did not have an Asian mom. I don't know how you could have figured that one out, but. - Yeah, I think Georgia really brought like an incredible amount of like tension, but also levity in so much. And then I so often in watching like action sequences in other productions that Michelle Yeo is not on. And I can see there's a difference when she's involved in fight choreography. I think there's just a really distinct flow and movement to the way that she brings her like both dancer background and her. - Decades long. - Decades of training. Decades long career. - Yeah, it's just absolutely incredible to watch. And so dynamic. And I really enjoyed episodes in particular where it is Michelle Yeo and Olatune Day on Tsun Tsame working together. 'Cause I think he does a really incredible job with camera movements as a director and like moving those through and guiding the crew through fight sequences. And then when you add in just the breadth of knowledge from Michelle Yeo, it's just like absolutely incredible to watch. And I still think about like the fight sequence from the season one with the Klingons. And I still think of all the fight sequences and all the mirror universe episodes and like the okay corral scene in the season once we jump to the future. You know, I think there's just like some really key highlight moments for me. And like Clyde, you probably rightfully bumped that up to number one. I think it was like just the second thing that came to my mind was just Giorgio in all encapsulation. So I knew it had to be on my list. - You gotta know for me, I love like, Westerns are cool, but I love modern Westerns. I love space Westerns. I love like Westerns that you don't, that aren't obviously Westerns, right? And one of my favorite Westerns is Tombstone and I love Doc Holliday, right? That just line like Amya Huckleberry is one of my favorite cinematic lines of all time. Michelle Yo or Giorgio in Discovery really is Doc Holliday. Like she says whatever, she does whatever. She's quick to jump into a fight and she's the one. And when you talk about that like saloon scene, you're like the one person I won in this scene is Giorgio. And then she shows up kind of strolling in like Doc Holliday and you're like, okay, we're gonna be okay. - And like Doc Holliday, Giorgio has a terminal illness. - She has to return to her timeline. - Like for me, my favorite, my number four is the season finale of season two, where you have super space battle, Giorgio fighting Leland and burn him like going back any time like it, I feel like-- - Yum, yum, yum, yum is what did it for you, right? - Yeah, yum, yum, yum. Like it all, like, you know, I felt like that season finale, like it basically tied up all the ends of the season and actually even discovery, like, you know, where its place is gonna be, right? You know, by the end of season two, you go like, discovery can't really exist in our Star Trek in this time because like, it's just too much stuff and they go, okay, we'll pop in the future. And I thought that was like really, I thought that was really good. Oh, for those of you who really like Tignetaro, I saw her in large mile walking by. She is, she looks like Reno. - Wow, the actor looks like the character. - And here's what's funny, like, I was eating-- - Were you like, Reno? - Like, I was eating ice cream and then she looked at me wondering if, in the way I go like, oh, does he recognize who I am? And I was like, oh, and like, huh, that person looks a lot like Reno. - Were you wearing a Star Trek shirt? - I was not, I was not, but you know. - Yeah. - Yeah. - What kind of ice cream did you get? - I was at, what'd you call it? Not Salt and Straw, Jennies, I was at Jennies. - Oh, nice. - And my flavor that I normally get at Jennies always is the Rainbow Sherbert, which sounds like a cop out. Which sounds like a cop out. It sounds like, it's a yogurt rainbow sherbet and it sounds like, oh, here's the person who can't choose, but it's actually very good. - I don't think I've ever had their rainbow sherbet. I'm normally really into the Brambleberry crisp. - That's like my thing, that sounds delicious. - But the rainbow sherbet is like, you're like, oh, this is really good. This is really good and it's a regular flavor. It's not, it doesn't rotate through. And welcome to talk. We, this is a sister podcast. - Two hot dogs. - Two hot dogs. Which, you know, just so you know, I went and watched like, you know, that part of Strange New World again. - It's dry hot dog. - Still freaking me out. And it's not, it's the joy of which is eating the dry hot dog. It's like, it's just not, okay, it's not okay, everyone. If there's a, you can't have this in Star Trek, that's near number one. - I feel like we should have a t-shirt that just says no dry hot dogs. - Like, I think, and I don't know what to say. - With like an outline of Kirk, like. - It's just not okay, but, but back to like, you know, season two finale, I think, is probably the best encapsulating of what the season was. - Yeah, so that was up for consideration. And since, for me, I really did love the space battle in particular, you know, I was thinking about this list. And I was like, I have to find something on my list that is like, what's the most epic space battle that has been in discovery? And for all of the hype that was built up for the Red Angel, that was pretty dope. The ending between, you've got, you got the Enterprise, you've got Discovery, you've got Spock, you've got hype. - You've got Control, yeah. - You've got Control, you've got this fly Red Angel, like, space suit, like the flying through the battle was intense, yeah. - I mean, it just, it was amazing. So if I'm gonna pick what was the best space battle scene, you know, and I'm not gonna talk about just like the, like, shots of like, voyager things like that. There's a bunch of those. I thought about when we saw the Enterprise in season five, kind of the mirror first alternate, you know, enterprise, like, I thought about those. But no, the end of season two in the Red Angel battle was pretty freaking amazing, up until the fact that she crashes lands on the planet. Like, literally crash lands face first into the planet, yeah. - Which is interesting, 'cause this brings me to my number three, three, three, three. - Three, transition, transition, transition. - Was Burnham arriving to the future? Just that I really felt. - We didn't plan this guys. It didn't just, like, you know, mine are before hard number three, just like, you know, we're team. It's how it's worked out. But yeah, Burnham, it's like, it gave us so much. One, that crash landing, that moment of joy and recognition and like, relief of realizing the sacrifice you just made worked, was just like, one of those moments when you're just like, oh, thank goodness, we have some equal Martin Green as this character, because she just like, truly delivers on all of that rapid succession of emotions that you need to have in that space and in that scene. It also provided us with our meet cute with book, which sends us down, like, an incredible relationship storyline for the two of them. And then in that episode, I know this is like a couple, but really this episode hit so many things for me, is when we meet Officer Sahil, who's been waiting for decades to raise the Federation flag, and you get Burnham and book there as we finally get to raise the Federation flag in the future. And I just think that there is so many moments of like, this is the Star Trek of the future in that episode. And like, especially now that we have Academy on the horizon, it truly is like, I think a big touchstone episode for me. - Yeah, I'll say that my number three was Burnham meets book. So again, more thematic, but in the same line. - Are you like looking at our notes flying? - No. - Are you copying us? - I'm a note right here. - On the back of an envelope, very official. - That's right, that's right. - Thank you. But no, like I love the, like I was like, okay, so if I have to pick kind of, 'cause I do love book, you know, it's, my love of book has gone up and down, but I was like, I do love book. If I, what encapsulates like book in Burnham to me, it was how they met. And it was the year, that first year that they were together when they're basically couriers and she's feeling free and like the, like it's like you're free from all the responsibilities, but you know that's who you are. Like that whole let's run around and we're gonna spend the rest of the next three seasons talking in code that literally are never explained. You remember the Alpha Centauri? Like situation, right? Yep, gotcha. Like they're gonna just spend all the time like that. I thought that was kind of fun and cute. That was my number three. So Burnham meets book. - Yeah, what's your number three, Paul? - Like, first of all, I've said too many times on the steps of my favorite episode of all of Discovery is like the terraforma, like two-parter kind of thing. Like, you know, so we've always done that. But like, and Michelle was amazing and my favorite character, blah, blah, blah, blah. But my favorite part of season three that included but included is the Guardian of the Edge of Tomorrow in that episode. Like he didn't have that much, but like, you know, it was just so freaking cool. - Yeah. - Just that tie in like old trek and how they chose to render it. It was just so fun. Like, you know, you're like, here's this door. Like what do you do? It's not a used door, do you? You go through, blah, blah, blah. And just talking in cryptic ways, but it's just so, it was good writing. It was good playful writing. It was like absurdist in the way. It reminded me like, like a Marguerite or some ways. Like, you know, and it's just, I thought that that was such a tasteful way of doing it. I was like, oh, this is, this is very fun. And the plan on there on like, you know, I'm a big fan of like ice planets on the edge of like, you know, fricking the galaxy, I guess. I don't know. - You like people having to be cold on set. - I like, yes. I don't like people being hot on set, but cold on set like, oh, yeah. Die slow. - Die slow. (both laughing) - That might be our new t-shirt, you know. - Die slow. - Start trick discovery, die slow. - No, just die slow. And then like, like in quotations, underneath, Paul's to touch it. - Like, if anyone wants to use it, please feel free, but make sure you credit me. - Yeah, I always like when there are the layers to discovery that feel like fun tips of the hat to start track of the past. And I think we get like quite a lot more of it, obviously in shows like strange new worlds and then like lower decks is just like running on a completely different set of cylinders as far as the reference machine that is that show. But I thought discovery did quite well to your point, Paul. Like this was such a smart way to use a back reference and it felt so just like, it felt like justified. It felt, it didn't feel like a fan service at all. It felt like, oh, you smartly are using the lore of the place that you were existing in. - Totally, totally. Like it elevated it. Like this, you know, like I'm always a fan of like, when you can take something that I know and make it relevant, contemporary, new, and you know, and appropriate. So I felt like, I was like, oh, this is, mwah, mwah. - Yeah, and I'll say with the hashtag spoiler alert for the finale, but I thought the reveal of COVID was also kind of smartly a way to tie back to the edge of tomorrow as well with the gatekeeper. And like, I just thought it was like a cool way to kind of like tie that time traveler kind of network together in that way of like, oh, of course, he would be able to help like figure out where to go for this thing, you know? - No. - Love it. - That's interesting. Are we ready for number two, two, two, two, two, two, two? Two, two, two, two, two. Mine was actually Burnham and Saru as well, but I wanted to kind of leave some space 'cause I felt like I wanted to talk about Saru in general and just like the phenomenal performance of having Doug Jones in the Star Trek universe period is like incredible and just the amount of performance and emotion that we get through all of that prosthetics. And to me, the like, to your point Clyde earlier, the moment when Burnham thinks she's gonna have to cut off his ganglia and like, this is the death of this friend that they had finally just sort of reconciled with each other. And I thought it was such beautiful performances by both Sidney Quimart and Green and Doug Jones in that scene. But to your point, the arc of Saru and then finally ending with this like beautiful, like very mature marriage at the end, I thought the arc for Saru was really satisfying through the whole series. - Yeah, I agree with that. And I think like, you know, we, there's so many couples, oddly enough on discovery more than really, feels like more than any other kind of show. I felt like we got a, we got a few in Voyager. - It just felt like there was a lot of couples on discovery. You know, I don't know where, what Reese was doing, but you need to, you know, get some numbers, man, like go on some dates. Everybody, just saying Reese, like, you know, I'm not gonna get into that. Anyway, but my favorite couple was probably Saru. - Yeah, like it was such a beautiful relationship. I mean, like it's so weird to say because you, you know, Burnham had a few relationships on the show and you're like, but if you had to go, who's hashtag couple goals? You wouldn't have thought in the beginning of this season or series it would have been Saru. - Two weeks ago, weren't you guys like willing to punch me for saying that versus like, you know, it being a Burnham in book? - Listen, I know, listen, you don't like Burnham in book. I like Burnham in book. I just, I thought that Saru was really weird. - I don't like them. I just don't think that like, you know, they have a lot of longevity, like, you know. - This was why we did not agree with you, Paul. It's the comment of longevity. There's like, everyone has those friends who are like slightly dysfunctional, but passionate with each other. And you're like, I get it. They're gonna be around for a while. And obviously they made it. They made it work. But like, from John's in Korea. - That's Dakota. I think they had to reshoot that. (laughing) Then they get to have pickups. (laughing) - That's not their fault, Paul. That's not their fault. That's Paramount's fault. - Yeah. - So we can, we just blame it on Paramount. - Okay, so there you go. - It doesn't, it does not have to be an either or. It can be a yes and, right? And so I like both of them. I've just, you know, if you said pick one that's your favorite, it was a beautiful wedding and their relationship. And like, the word that you use Mariah was mature. It was mature in every aspect of the word. And we don't see that on TV that much. There's a lot of drama and a lot of young love. This was a mature love and I was there for it. - Yeah, I'm all for geriatric love. Great, great. - I didn't say geriatric, I said mature. - But it was implied. It was implied. - It was not. - Hey, we don't know how long, how long do Kelpians live now? We don't know. - I don't know. - I don't know. - I'm like, I'm like. - I'm just saying, I imagine that we're at counts. That's a young love, I'm just saying. - Out of Wilkins, like you don't become president at like, you know, at 74. Old AF. - I'm just saying. - Yeah, that's why I'm into it. They love each other and they know what they want out of life and it's gonna be great. - Love it, love it. - I also love, I don't know if everyone saw, I think we posted it on our social medias, but the actress who played Tarina, she called up a bakery in Toronto and had them make a wedding cake, like a real wedding cake for the day they shot that. So then they posted a bunch of pictures of the two of them like cutting the cake and feeding each other cake. And it was like really, really cute. - That's some boss level stuff right there, right? Like on screen and off screen. She's just a boss, I love you. - She got when you got disposable income. - Well, she said she called the bakery and was like, "This is an odd request, I need a wedding cake, but it's not for a wedding." And like explained to that, she's like, "Oh, I'm on this TV show and me and my like, you know, person that I'm on this TV show with are getting married in the episode." And so we like explained kind of the vibes she was looking for and essentially got to make the Tarina wedding cake of her dreams, which I thought was really cute. - Love it, love it, love it, love it. - Super amazing. What about y'all, what's sitting at that penultimate spot for you? - I'm on the slide. - Good, Paul. No, I know mine, but go ahead, go ahead. - So here is something. Number two is book and burn-o. Cheating those bad guys at whatever game that was like... - Oh, the card game episode? - Yeah, exactly. 'Cause like, I felt like this is the encapsulation of what the relationship was, right? There's all that. Like you said, client, all these inside references and they're working together as a team, even though they are at- - On opposing sides in this moment. - Exactly, they're working together 'cause it could be worse. And you can still see that there's a tension between them, that they're a frustration that they're not on the same page. And so like it really had this multi-layer thing like, "Oh, here's the complexity of their relationship." And you know, but it was fun. But wrapped in the fun wrapper. I thought that was just a very nice way to show that. - Yeah, it's a fun, like you said, it's like a nice wrapper. It's a fun way to present the tension of the relationship without it just being like a conversation about the tension in the relationship. You really got to see it rather than hear it. And you know, I do play a lot of casino games. So I do like the casino. I'm not happy about that. - I only love it, yeah. - Noted, we got to eventually go to Star Trek Las Vegas one year. I feel like it lands in like a weird time of year. There's like a bunch of other things happening, but I feel like I need to find out. - I'm never really crewed. I still want to do them Star Trek cruises. I don't like cruises, but okay. - Like I want to see Harry Kim's like comedy set. I want to see, I want to-- - I tried to improv night is real fun with the lowered X crew. - Okay, nice. - Love it, love it. - Yeah. - So for me, I mean, I don't know that I want to put a disclaimer on it. So I'm just going to own it. It's less about us. I mean, the scene, it's a very specific scene. If you ask me why this scene, I'm going to tell you it's just a feeling. Like it's a feeling and I'm just going to go with it. The reveal of Captain Killie was just like, whoa, I didn't expect it. It was just kind of like, oh my goodness. I'm a little smitten. It just was-- - Killie's hot. It was-- - Yeah. - Killie's hot. I'm all about a girl who owns her psychopathy. Totally, I'm all for it. That's why I like for a Joe. Like, I might be a Karen. - I mean-- - How do you might be a Karen? - But it's different. Like, 'cause we've seen these mere verse, kind of sexy episodes before. I mean, you had a lot of them in Enterprise. Like, in Enterprise, it was like, someone was always in a halter top for some reason, for no really good reason. - A Ryan dancing. Like, I keep on talking about Ryan dancing. The de-contamination scene with the Paul, there's a bunch of them. Those felt like, over the top, and you almost saw them coming. This came out of nowhere. Like, it was like-- And it was like-- - It's like-- - You're really gonna knock your crew out. - And just was like, whoa. So, and I'm curious, I'm terribly curious about what Mary Wiseman feels about that, and I imagine the attention that she's gotten because of that. I am, I don't know if she's, if it's one of those things that she was like, I would never do it again. If I could do it all over, or it was like, it was empowering. I have no idea. I'm mildly curious. But for me as a scene, my number two, that just like was like-- - Whoa. - So, you wanna call me an adolescent? That's fine, but I'm gonna-- - I mean, I'm sure it's fun to play the mustache-torly, like, villain version of this character you've been playing for so long. And I think that that's like something, I think that's probably why the near-reverse episodes feel so fun, is because all of these actors essentially get to just play as big as they want, because it's appropriate for the universe that they're in. - What would the, what would the Taren universe version of Us be? What's the mustache-torly version of Mariah? - I mean, I feel like the opposite version of me would be someone who's far less motivated and far less kind. (laughs) - So, just like a lazy mean person. - Yeah. - I would definitely, it would be, it would definitely be mean, and it would be no filter. Like, I would say all the things that even I just remotely think about, and I wouldn't care what anyone thought. Like it's a, I'm kicking over chairs and desks and stuff. - You're trying to do the Riker's seat and you just kick everything over. - You get everything over. - Like, I think I pretty much stay the same. Oh my God. (laughs) - This is why you are Taren Paul. - Well, so one of the things on occasion I'll do is like read up on Myers-Briggs for, it's all its pluses and minuses, but like, my particular Myers-Briggs, like, I was reading one website where I go, here is the good version of it. Like, these personalities, like, you know, Gandhi-Eblo. And here is the bad version, Stalin-Eblo. But like, for my particular Myers-Briggs, like, it was just like autocrats that were like, like Margaret Thatcher, or, you know, (laughs) - Oh, yeah. - Just like, and they go like, is that good or that bad? It's just in the ring. - So like, I feel like it's better. - Oh, so it was just very interesting. Like, definitely in the gray. Anyway, that had nothing-- - The more you know about Paul. (laughs) - Paul, Paren, die slowly. (laughs) - Okay, y'all, I think it's time to reveal, well, do our number ones, then we'll do some honorable mentions. Are we ready? Number one, one, one, one, one, one. My number one is fittingly enough from Clyde's number two was the Burnham and Tilly friendship. I felt like their friendship to me was such a strong encapsulation of the transformation of the show. And I felt like they were really my core base and my like guiding North Star throughout the whole series was like seeing them go from both being kind of rejects at the beginning. Burnham, obviously more so being someone who had to really crawl her way back into good graces in the Federation space. But you saw that Tilly was someone who was so unsure of herself and I think really needed the friendship with Burnham to see how that they could grow both together, but then separately and really support each other in that friendship. And I just think it was really lovely. And one of my favorite things about the show. - Love it, love it. - Clyde, what you got? - So I've already said my number one. So I've got some honorable mentions. So my number one was Burnham and Georgia. - Like for me, my favorite part, and it's actually, I feel encapsulates the journey of the show because more than any other show of Star Trek, this is about one person. - Yeah. - You know, and so my favorite was Burnham talking to her subconscious version of book at the end of the library when she was about to die. - That's a solid pick. - Because like in this way, like, you know, like I keep on talking about how Burnham like has to heal, right, throughout this whole series. Like she goes from like, I'm, you know, I'm guilty because I hid in the closet because my parents got killed by Klingons. And you know, and now I started the Civil, I started a war and blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, you know, she's always second guessing herself. And at the end here, like, you know, like in season five, you see that she's really kind of gotten her bearings as a captain, if only she'd get one thing correct and that's her relationship. And ultimately, like, you know, like it took a lot of like, it took a lot, I don't wanna say guts is the right word, but like oftentimes I'll let a criticize discovery for going. Like, ah, that's not how Star Trek of Old might have done it or blah, blah, blah, but like in this version here, like you've never seen a captain be vulnerable. - Yeah. - Like you see the caption tortured and you see in the caption, blah, blah, blah, but it's always like through my strength, I'm gonna overcome and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. - And discovery was like through my vulnerability, I will hit my goals. - Yeah, and in this particular case, yeah, like absolutely. Like in this particular case, like, you know, you go like, oh, the reason why I can be strong and a captain is because I have this damage. You know, this damage is really causing me and this damage is now pushing away the person that I love. And I really think that you go quiet, I'm sorry. - I was gonna say no, Paul, what you're saying is incredible because I think one of the things that we mentioned early on is that Star Trek's amazing because it often is a reflection of whatever's going on in the time and period in which it exists, right? And we always look for these kind of political, societal kind of references or analogies. But really one of the things that I kind of think about is when you think about where we are today, words like vulnerability are prevalent in the zeitgeist, right? They are things that we talk about. We talk about trauma in a way we did not 20 years ago. And so to have a captain that is in touch with their vulnerability, I showed it- - Ish, ish, ish. - But more than any other captain. - 100% over that, like, you know. - More than any other captain. To have a show that digs into trauma and the effects on trauma and what that might mean, even if it is the trauma of a half human, half Klingon or something, whatever Ash was- - Tyler, yeah, a Klingon transformed infused into human form. - Yes, so there's a lot of things that even like, you look at kind of some of the things that the Kelpians went through. And like, there's a lot of stuff here that really speaks to a time period that we're in now and reflective of things that we talk about and things that we deal with, like no other truck has. So that vulnerability or that journey of vulnerability makes a lot of sense for this show where we didn't see any vulnerability with Picard or Janeway or not even Cisco. And he was the most emotive of all the captains. - Yeah, I mean, like, I think there's a phrase in, like I have that my therapist friends use. And they talk about how in the end, you have to metabolize your damage. You have to metabolize. So it's not a matter of like making a circle around it and putting it in a closet or, you know, or it's about like going like, here is what happened, here is who I am. And I have to accept who I am before I can become who I need to be. And in that way, like I really feel like discovery, like-- - Did that whole journey in a way? - Yeah, like, and it can be uncomfortable. And I think a lot of times when people like criticize discovery, it's not as blue sky as a lot of other Star Trek's. It's not like, you know, like we're Star Trek, you know, like everything, here's paradise. And, you know, and here, like people who need more paradise. - Right. - That's, you know, that's dark. - Like, what do you, what do you do when you're actually fighting for the utopia that's been on screen for so long, right? - Exactly. And so in this one here, like, you know, in discovery, you can see that like, oh, like, life can be hard and it's still worth it. It's just an uglier journey, you know? And I think like in that way, it's hopeful in a way that the other Star Kregs can never be because the other Star Kregs start with the assumption that you're healthy. Does it make sense? - Yeah. - Or it starts at utopia. - Right. Like there is much like drive for personal change and personal growth. - Like, like, ultimately when cars being tortured or anyone, you know, the answer is like, suck it up. The cavalry's gonna come. Whereas like, yeah, you go for that, I'm sorry. - To your point, you say, you know, start at utopia, encounter it for far point for the next generation. Everybody's perfect in that. - Sure. - And that, kind of in that pilot. Like when we meet them, everybody's fully hold, nobody has any issues. - Yeah. - And we don't really see any issues. - Or he's blind, but like, but he's blind with technology that makes him not blind. - Exactly. Exactly. - Right? He becomes a person that can see the spectrum that nobody else has. - Like everyone is whole, you know. - Everyone is whole. - Yeah, no, and you know, it's a different, like, you know, like, I don't always, I don't always agree with what discovery does. I go like, "Ah, my start touch should be fun." But like, but I have to always respect what it's trying to do. You know, like it's, it's, in its effort, it is beautiful. You know, it might not always hit it. But like, it is, it really tries to go like, "Hey, we all can be better." Not just, not just the utopia. But internally, we can all be better. We can, we can become more than our damage. We can heal that damage. It's a rue, heals from his damage. Burn him, heals from her damage. Like everyone, like, you even had Deborah going through her PTSD, you know, like, you know, everyone, like, you know. - Lorca eventually gets thrown in the trash heap. - Yeah, thank you. - Like, yeah, like, and like, you know, my favorite, you know, my favorite real, you know, relationship, not relationship, like, it's George O, right? George O goes from sociopath, Queen sociopath, to someone who goes like, "There can be a better way." And she's still a badass. - Yeah. - And she's still a badass and, you know, but like, you know, but she, you know, she, she's changing. Whereas like the card from season one to season seven is still just the card, you know? And so, in that way, like, like, like, I look at discovery and I go like, ah, like, you know, like, you're like, you may stumble, but there are like-- - Greater gains through the stumbles. - Your goals are so much loftier, you know? So anyway. - You know, Paul, I love what you just said there because it's not just, it's not just burn up. When you look at this crew, just about everybody has gone through and made this growth. - Except Reese. - I mean-- (laughing) - Why are you picking on Reese tonight? - Oh, that's it. - He's doing the chair at the end. - Yes, but Reese, man, gone a date. Get some growth, bro. I mean, you got the abs. He's all handsome and stuff, I'm just saying. - I mean, IRL, he does have like a wife and a beautiful child, so, you know. - I don't doubt it, but I'm saying on the show, just like-- (laughing) - We're not gonna be actors. We're not gonna be the character. - I mean, even Tilly was about to date at the end, right? - Oh, I can't wait to see what they do with that. If that comes back in Academy. - Tilly pulls. - Tilly. - Tilly pulls. - Tilly pulls. - Tilly pulls. - No doubt. - No doubt. - With ease, with ease, okay. Let's get into some honorable mentions. - Sure, sure. Honorable mention, mention, mention, mention. (laughing) - I'm curious if you guys are gonna stay. I'm very curious what you guys-- - Mine is just everything Jet Reno has ever said. - I have that on my list, thank you. - Yeah. - Let's go to another one. - You know, from the full backstory of working at an archivist and being a bartender and just like every quip and, you know, the relationship with Stamets, it was all just always firing in all cylinders, 10 out of 10. I would watch an entire spinoff series of Jet Reno. - I'm like, I just tried to do a quick Google search of like the best Jet Reno like lines. - One liners, yeah. - Yes, what is she called? Does she call Stamets something like, oh man, there's just so many, so many-- - There's so many. - Her with the licorice. (laughing) Let's go with mine. I'd have to go with an honorable mention. I've got a couple of them, but just Burnham and her mom. And Bobcat. - Bobcat, yes, yes. - Bobcat, beautiful, beautiful, yeah. - But yeah, no, Burnham and her mom, just that relationship, like we didn't see it coming. I'm also a huge fan of the actress from The Wire, a very different show for her here, but I just like that, like they brought her back, you know? And she showed up for Burnham at a couple of times, it really made sense. So yeah, time to dug it. - For me, like it is everything OSIRA. Like I like a good villain. - Yeah. - And OSIRA is like, you know, he's very complex. Like it's like the Ryan heart, it has six vowels. Like, you know, it flows in very many different ways. And I think OSIRA, like she just got the second half of season three. I don't think they did her justice, like killing her in the computer. What was that? That's not cool. - It was a fun villain though, good fight sequence, yeah. - But you know, but here's the thing that I also like about OSIRA. Like she was like, look, things aren't going to work out. We should make an alliance. Like, you know, like, and, and like, you know, and I was gonna like, it's a pretty good deal. It's a pretty good deal, yeah, yeah. - But then for OSIRA negotiation scene, yeah. - But then dance had to be all high and mighty and go like, yeah, and you need to go to jail. And if I were OSIRA, I'd be pissed. - Like, you know, like, the world fell apart. Dilithium exploded, everything, nothing. And people took control, like, you know, and was it abusive, not by Karen's standards? (laughing) - Of course not by Karen's standards. - And so, and like, and she brought order, she brought order in such a way that like, Orion's, and I'm, what do you call it? - And drama, what's the blue, blue, intended people? - And Orion's. - And Orion's, there we go. And Orion's like, you know, became like, like a significant power. Like, like these, you know, like, and my thought process, like, you gotta put, you know, you know, order into chaos. It's the Mariah, she's, OSIRA's the Mariah of like the 36th. - That's who I would be in the Mariah universe. (laughing) - I think, and so, yeah, so I feel like they just made a great character and they just threw her away. Or basically like alien space whales, you know, for season four. - Hey, Paul, is she your favorite villain and through all five seasons? - In all five seasons, is George Oak considered a villain? (laughing) - That's an interesting question. - Good question. - So, I think she's more of an antagonist than a villain. - Then she is, she is by far my favorite, my favorite villain. - Speaking of like potential villains, though, I also needed to shout out Chancellor LaRell, just 'cause like, I love her each show. - Exploding power, yes, yeah. Sagan, Chancellor LaRell. - Yeah, Chancellor LaRell, I thought the, I miss the Klingons, kind of, not kind of, I do, I miss the Klingons, and I feel like it was fun to dive into a lot of the Klingon, like history and lore when we finally kind of got Chancellor LaRell really involved in helping them, you know, stop the Klingon war and I thought that was really cool. - Sure, sure. I got a couple questions for you guys, so I'll throw 'em out there real quick. - Throw 'em out there. - Two questions. - Those questions. First, do you think it was a mistake doing this as a prequel, and should they have just done it as a future trek to begin with? And two, do you think it, do you think they make the right choice by basically redesigning the Klingons in a manner that we haven't seen, or should they have just used the traditional Klingon prosthetics? - I think, I'm gonna answer the Klingon question first, to me that's an easier one, which is, I think, in the way that humans all look very different, to me it made sense to design additional Klingons. Now, do I think it would have been smart to have mixed in some OG Klingons in that mix, just to be like, here's the diversity of Klingons, and we're updating this makeup to be more of the caliber of what we're capable of, 'cause in the same way that, like, you know, I mean, in the original series, the Klingons looked like humans. - But they explained it in Enterprise. - Right, so I'm just like, you know, I think there's that potential to, I thought they looked really cool, so ultimately, I was fine with it. - I think that they went too far. And the reason why I feel like they went too far is because part of a TV show is having connection to people, and a lot of the way that's done is faces. And so, like, it's gonna be-- - The full prosthetic to you was too much. - It's just from, like, it's like they say, like, you know, you thought about if you could, but you didn't know, you didn't think about whether you should. - Yeah, not everyone is a Doug Jones level performer underneath prosthetics. - That, and for all of it, for like, you know, like, you get away with it with Doug Jones, because first of all, you're with him a lot. But the second thing is like Doug, you know, is so expressive with his, you know, his arms and legs. And like, so you see all this stuff. It's not necessarily just all in facial expressions. And I have to say, like, they probably spent a lot more time with Doug's facial prosthetics than they did with, you know, the playing arms, because they had to make tons of those. And here's a prime character. So it's a lot of, like, you know, I just don't think they had the budget to do what they thought they were doing. Does that make sense? - I see, yeah, to do the lighter weight prosthetics and to do it in the, like, the amount of makeup artists it would have taken to have done that. - I think, yeah, and ultimately, like, there's a part where you look at Saru and you go, like, oh, okay, that's a thing. And then, but, you know, like, when you look at clean and you go, oh, they look like monsters, you know, not to be anti-cleaner and I apologize. And so, but like, you know, in that way, you go, like, oh, it takes a lot more to, like, sympathize with them. You know, and it helped in season two when they added hair. Like, you know, like, but like, just the further you get it. - So you can only sympathize with things that look like human's paws that we're saying. - I think that is a fair, that is a fair place to be as a human. You know, like, you know, I'll go further. I tend to sympathize with mammals. - Space whales. So, I would say this, you know, we all probably watch a lot of sci-fi and I think-- And I think the thing about sci-fi is, if you're gonna have a show where people come in contact with aliens and how you create, visualize, dress, those aliens becomes a pretty significant part of your show. And I think there's shows like, Far Escape and Babylon 5 that worked really, really hard that just was just okay when I think. - Like, I'll punch you for it. - Babylon 5 is a treasure, but like, we can move on. - I'm not saying it's not a treasure, but what I'm saying is when you think about what the Star Trek team did with Klingons, they created an alien that is, that feels fairly universally recognizable. So much so that there are people who go around learning the Klingon language. Like, they created a character that has so much like mythos behind it. It's huge. And when you think about Wharf, who has become this iconic character, and then you kind of just tossed that away, it did make sense to start over to me, right? Not completely. So that, like, it didn't bother me. I didn't have a problem with it, but I was constantly looking for show me how this leads to Wharf. - Show me, show me how we get there. And thank you for doing it. - I get it. Oh, go ahead, Paul. - As far as your first question, when you go like, oh, should they have just started in the future, I think the answer is no. - Okay. - I also don't think that show, whatever, have gotten made. I think it's an easier pitch to a network to say, hey, you know, this very successful franchise with characters that people already find recognizable and know and love. We're gonna start just before that, but still within a timeframe where all of these characters can exist because no one will buy anything that is not already established IP. - I agree with you. - For me. - It is good, Paul. - For me, like, the reason why the future start track, like, at least this far, the difference between going 80 years into the future and a thousand years in the future, right? And I feel like the reason why this need to stay, it didn't need to stay in, it could have started in next generation or around there and gone in the future. But you needed a touchstone to go like, "Oh, here is the universe." So when they go to the future, they can also be discovering the universe. But if you start in, you know, in basically Mad Max Star Trek times and just here at Star Trek, but we're in Mad Max Star Trek now, like, it's a lot for someone to go. You know, if you thought discovery wasn't your Star Trek, like, that would definitely be your Star Trek. - I think also if the plan was, like, we're gonna jump to a future where the Federation has crumbled. You have to establish what the Federation was and why this crew loves the Federation. And so I think if you're thinking about your long-term arc of the show, it ultimately was smart to start in a place of familiarity to a fan base. - Like, I don't believe they knew what they're doing but they're gonna do to it until-- - Yeah, I mean, it switched show runners a cazillion times, so-- - So I think it was a very slick move to jump to the future to have someone go like, "Oh, you know what? "We're gonna hit problems soon. "Let's just not have these problems." But I think like the show doesn't get made. Like, I've always had a problem with the Spore Drive because despite the fact that it's integral to Star Trek, it's like the phasing cloak or any number of like super technologies that would just-- - It's superior, yeah. - Yeah, and then disappear. So it's so radical, like, hey, how about we just teleport anywhere in the galaxy? You know, like that just, like, James, we would have wanted that. - Everybody would have wanted that. Like it's ultimately the ultimate weapon. - That's true. No, I think the ultimate weapon is friendship and love, but don't worry about it, like, we know it how you-- - No, I agree with everything that you guys are saying except for the friendship and love thing. (laughing) - Slowly die. (laughing) - No, but like, it did make sense to me. I felt like early on, it felt like they were rapidly painting themselves into a corner. Like, it just felt like, oh, like, we're this whole inner, like, this discovery 10 years before the enterprise just felt like, man, we're really painting ourselves in a corner. And so, and I don't believe that they knew what they were gonna do. And I do believe that it was brilliant to say, "Hey, we're gonna jump on 1,000 years in the future." But I also agree with everything you're saying. And the fact that, like, that touch zone, it would have been really cool if that was somebody's original vision, like, golf together. - Yeah, it would have been like-- - I would be very interested in, like, the oral history of, like, the creation of the original season and, like, what those plans initially were. And I'm sure, like, in, like, a decade we'll maybe find pieces of that out in interviews and whatnot. But it would be very interesting to know, for sure. - Oh, you know, my art, honorable mention, and this is, this is haterade. You ready? Ready? Ready? Ready? The death of Locke. (laughs) - Jay, I'm gonna address that. You know what thing we did not mention, which I think is really important, but not for discovery reasons? The introduction of Pike gave us a whole new show. - Yeah, yeah. - I'm sure I really liked, too. - Yeah, I did have on my honorable mentions the introduction of number one coming in and getting a burger with habanero sauce on it. And just, like-- - That was a really good moment. That was kind of fire, yeah. - But seriously, like, Locke Dine was very important to me. - I'm glad you got that moment, Paul. - Okay, 'cause you hated him. - I hate, well, like, I hated them. But, like, what I-- But, like, here, like, throughout the whole season, they were just doing crazy things, and they were-- - And then-- - Immune, exactly! That's exactly what it is. And here it goes, hey, don't know a deal on that. Oh, you owe a deal, you know what's going to do? You're gonna die! And it's like, yes, finally consequences. Catch up to these guys. - I will say-- (laughs) - Die slowly. - But here's the thing, I will say this. I won't say that Locke Dine was a favorite moment, but Locke not coming back to life was a favorite moment. And that-- (laughs) - That might even be harsher, like-- - No, because, to me, having a weapon, like this technology that can bring people back to life, that's just too easy. It feels like a little bit of a troll, like-- - I mean, it's all practical magic, and what happens when you try to revive your ex-boyfriends. - That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right. - The cold kid's been not the best witch. - No. - Not the best witch. - The idea that, like, they're gonna, like, Maul is just searching and searching 'cause she's so insistent that this is what it's gonna do, that they think this is what's gonna happen, and you get there and find out, no, it doesn't work like that. Technology doesn't do that. - No. - That, to me, was great. Like, that was like, no, you can't shortcut it. And we talk about, like, what does that mean for today's day and age? It means there are no shortcuts to dealing with your grief. Like, you gotta deal with that. Like, you have to open up, like, Maul, you have to deal with it. You can't just, you can't skip it. - Like, I think, here's a real honorable mention 'cause it's part of the, you know, series, but not part. It's on our podcast. The best moment of, like, it's when Clyde goes, like, you know, at the season finale, Paul, I was like, yeah, can't you just die already, Maul? Last episode, when you said that, like, I don't know, you know, I know Paul, like, but, like, when I was watching, like, her, like, fight, like, just die already. I was like, there, there, there. - Vindication. - It was, there was a, like, the, you're right, Paul. There was a moment where I was like, okay, this has gone too far. - I think that's a new part of this. - The most beautiful line in the world to me, you know. - So what you're saying is I should have just kept that in my head, I should have thought it and not said it out loud. - Like, people love line lines. - That was your terror for my Clyde. - Like, like, like, people love, like, you know, hearing things like, I love you, or, you know, you mean everything to me. My favorite line is, your right, Paul. It works great in any language, in any language, your right, Paul, oh my God, it just speaks to something inside me that says, like, I know. (laughing) - Oh, goodness. - Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where I think sometimes fight scenes go on too long. - Oh, yeah, sure, sure. Like, they just, you're like, okay, yes. - Unless it is a John Wick movie. 'Cause then it's the whole movie, really. - I mean, it's the whole movie, it is the whole movie. Don't get me started on the stair scenes in John Wick 4. - I love it. What did y'all, so shifting and kind of wrapping up, we have gotten a couple of casting announcements for Academy. - Oh, have you? - They've announced Paul Giamatti is our main villain. - Oh, did they? Oh, that's, I'm the biggest Paul Giamatti fan. - Same. - And Holly Hunter is playing the head of the Academy. - Oh, Holly Hunter is in it too? Oh, this is some prime, this is prime casting. - I love it, I love it. - It's gonna be, I'm excited, I feel like those two weeks gave me a really big jolt of excitement, yeah. - I love Sarah Paulson doing a Holly Hunter impersonation. - I'm gonna have to look up that video, 'cause that sounds fun. - She does it in the single season of Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, she does it quite a bit in there. Like that was, in a Saturday night live as a show, one of her voices was Holly Hunter. I think it's in the pilot where she does it in a bunch, but she does a pretty good Holly Hunter. - That's life. - That's life, and that's the end of our episode. Yeah, we counted down some of our favorite moments. I'm sure we'll come back and talk more disco at some point. This is not the end of our conversations around discovery, do not fear. We are preparing for Prodigy. We will be back next week with something. We'll figure out something to talk about. Maybe we'll recap season one of Prodigy. That might be something we could do in Chit Chat about that. But you let us know, what do you want us to talk about next week? We'll do it, 'cause we are for once between seasons of Trek. You can subscribe, write and review on Apple and find more links at Star Trek Park.co as well as links to The Patreon. It's a great time to join, 'cause only a few episodes a month right now for just two bucks an app. You can follow us on Twitter and Instagram. We will be back next week. Live long and prosper y'all. Bye-bye. - Bye for one. - See you next week, Bobcat. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)
