The Ben 10 Podcast That Nobody Asked For

13. Sixteen Hours

“He shoots… the BEST loogies.”

It’s been sixteen hours, and the reality is finally starting to set in, as the Quartet reach the season two finale. Maybe it’s the existential horror of their choices which finally keeps them on topic as they rank the episode of season two.

Season 2,

Episode 13,

Back with a Vengeance

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Duration:: 25m
Broadcast on:: 23 Jun 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

Welcome back to the Bentium podcast that nobody asked for. I am Net. I'm Sam. I'm James. I'm my live You can't be like that In and out, okay, yeah, no I came back and you guys have siphoned We have not been at this for 12 hours We have been at for long before 13 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no just after 9 15 We haven't been at this for 16 hours. Well, 18 minutes past 1 a.m. Well, oh my god. You're right. Yeah. Oh my god Season 2 episode 13 what at the fuck am I doing with my life back with it? Why is it been going so quickly is my question? Yeah, no, that's the worst part. This is the worst part. I feel miserable, but also where's the day gone? Season 2 episode 13 back with the vengeance Then manages to unlock the master code on the Omnitrix allowing him to change your will it comes in handy Now that Vilgax and Kevin 11 are teamed up and coming for him. Okay, so we got to start off with stat The steps of being a little And then I remembered what my point was when we were saying it when remember when I said it sounds like a dah-dah problem I remember what that was do your stats and I'll tell this no you you do your Okay, the stats again, I might forget So what I said was because Vilgax was like I'm the master of the Omnitrix when he's like, oh good luck figuring out The master control and he's like, there's nine million combinations of whatever one how to bend zero it out Two this sounds like an Apollo problem. It was When Athena made the double flute and she plays it and Apollo makes one of her being like, yeah, it makes your Facebook fat That's legitimately what happened and then she's like, yeah, she throws it away and a Sated picks it up and goes I'm the master of this instrument that was created two minutes ago I could play a bit of music in this than anyone in the world and Apollo's like I take great offense to that and The Sated is like, oh cool. I'll challenge you to like battle of the bands me versus you You can even be the judge they play and then Apollo's like I win eat and Flaze him alive Like that just popped in my head with the off like way way more I'm just looking at me like I am the master of the Omnitrains. I'm like you haven't even touched it I have studied this. I've read many a paper about what How do you know how it works? He has a theoretical manual Yeah, you see the the omnitrix felt at earth the manual fell into a ship There's a deleted scene Bill Jackson with reading glasses on reading omnitrix foot tummy is where I want to fix I will discover the omnitrix Any of our three listeners happens to have any artistic ability Please send us a drawing of Vilgex wearing half moon specs doing some light reading. Okay. Also, please Forearms Jula Kenboing his omnitrixes, but as I really need to see that. That's probably like, okay Well, I'm gonna jump in we're gonna do Sam stats for this episode Which also with partly in that stats because I'm Gave up Sam Sam Hasn't seen this episode in a while and really wanted to enjoy watching this episode There were at least like 30 transform these numbers have more and some end Felt like it was more where maybe maybe no, it's more than 50 It was scenes where he didn't like five or six times I'm opening scene. He does like six or seven different aliens We're gonna exclude you for that. We'll do this you because you know the answer to this. Yeah Oh my god, what do you say? Who do you think's winning? I want to say like he'd last was being part of it he did turn into stink fly like eight times Oh, yeah Our last one was I You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna put out a weird one and go Greymata You're gonna go Greymata. I think Greymata got buffed in that last round. He did get buffed I don't know he did he did he did he there was a lot of Greymata There was like Greymata into another alien back into Greymata Okay, so we've got one for Greymata one for arms. It's Greymata 12 Well followed by stink fried that jumped up to eleven then we've got accelerate four arms Which are both ten then followed up after that we have wild ma at nine diamond head at seven wild vine goes up to five then upgrade and rip draws are at four and Then goes free to still up to now and he bought sorry. I forgot to he passes at six. He passed Billy No episode the season of half of the last one where he uses he plus they what he wasn't really showcase much at all He shoots the best olympes. He does shoot He does he do hock a big lugee. Okay They're poor old couple. Oh god. They got tortured the entire episode It's the same old cup. Yeah So I thought they look kind of it looks kind of the same as the previous old couple Yeah any particular moments from the city. How has been not been figured out that it's been? Oh, yeah, at this point how the hell's what like and later series bins like I must get my head into sick How are people not figured out? It's been oh, it doesn't make any sense There's so many these episodes we will transform in front of you and it's like not a big deal Yeah, and then these episodes with a really good to great pains to hide it and it's very consistent I feel like whenever it's convenient for them to come up with a bullshit reason to discover that they will In some of the episodes we have made painstakingly to hide it those are the episodes where people actually figure it out such as the submarine episode Tourist track guy knows bin can transform it to aliens because he doesn't front of yeah Yeah, and he's he's in front of him like no. What's not an alien aliens are real. Are you crazy? Yeah? Yeah in Dresden files is a character who is a holy knight, and he's a he's an atheist In great he goes. How do I know that's angel? How do I know that's actual angel like Michael? It could just be a powerful being who gifted me great power. Doesn't mean he's an angel from the test of a test But Michael Michael with a flaming sword. It gave you this pack. It's great I think the big tip was the worst episode of the series Yeah, well, do we want to talk a bit more about this? Yeah, is there anything else that we want to say I mean great action all across we haven't really talked about I'm going to bring it to the hero man the brilliant ability of him being able to swap between aliens on the fly Oh, it's like and chaining that into escaping and fighting that was top tier like here's the truth we've been told over and over and over again the army troops is the most powerful weapon in the galaxy and Finally felt like if you finally felt like it like I said it during the episode here It was the imagine if you wouldn't accelerate like a month 12 or whatever and they just turned into a second Yeah, like lost like that would murk someone like so bad and Just yeah, Kevin 11 and the bill gets going at him and he was taken about the only thing to him when he finally went You know what I give up. Yeah, you got it No, they only got to him because he was a dumbass who ran into the no boy. Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, exactly. They were about to save the day was sold and he went It's like you drop your phone and it's about to land on the couch, but the new spider-man reflex slap it Yes, I must stop training now When your reflexes are a little too good. Yeah, oh You know that bang we heard. Yeah, so our friends who live nearby say their house shook. Oh Maybe transformer what I've got a septicon Actually, it was not if there was no destruction. It must be a No, you can't be asleep for this illustration around here Anyway, it's all about the episode. Yeah, the flim back board is so cool. It's done so well Yeah, I think there's a couple of the time in the show where he does get my control back But when he does it's so It's been my favorite part of the season. It's it was so cool. Just watching him swap swap. He just gets the powers I think they're always very inconsistent with accelerate. Yeah It's how fast he can be because He's obviously way faster than a stink fly, but he's using accelerate to run across water and then transforms into stink fly to grab people Yeah, it's like but accelerates faster. I think with accelerate. It's like with all speed says Consistent and in great moment at the end of the episode. We've been actually sacrificing the army trucks You know, I mean it was a bit dumb from to walk into the traffic just hey fine. Here you go I don't like you get what was this option? No, of course, but but it was a really nice moment of them being like just drop it It's not worth it. We need to get up yet. Yeah, the the omnitrix being taken from him was just oh my god That was Was a hymn screaming that was Yeah, it's a little bit star. We've joked a couple times during this podcast about hmm do bins transformations hurt Yeah, this one this actually would have been painful. Yes Also in terms of him screaming like him being a child has anyone here send a movie doctor's sleep. Yeah. Yeah, that's horrific Talk about it. We don't need to it's it's a horrific Do it you're too Just stop listening. Yeah I'm losing omnitrix. You merely got it back by like I did like that, but was like I got damn it As they read it out. I was like that's been lunches listen, and then you're really mean He just means like He erased his into history. Yeah. Yeah clear the bells in history. It's got no more cookies played cookies cash Yeah, he's he's he's he's cleared all his widgets, but yeah, so yeah, he finally learns his lesson of hey I was misusing it and then immediately goes and gets it back and I'm gonna miss using it. Yeah Instinct thing is like oh my god. My cousin has given me the gift of superpowers again What do I you need stink fly goop in your face a little pay back for this? You here pay then and ten your Alright, let's run for a ranking. Let's rank the episodes. I think big tick is the worst It's gonna be my outfit. I can't about one big tick drops on the planet and just start straining it dry And it's just a very boring. Yeah, the planet looks completely displayed like 99% of the way done and then they beat it and it just Season two is really good on the whole better than season one Yes, just because all the characters are aware of the world there and now there's not a much confusion I feel like a lot of season one like good episodes, but you have got bits where it's like and these characters of a heavy and This way because they don't know basic information that we as the viewer have and then yeah season two everyone knows They place in the world and yeah, I'm gonna say for like second worst Gwen grint. Yeah It's fun to see it's just I want to put collecting forces Wait like yeah, oh you want to go like to conformers. Sorry. I forgot about collected It's got a few good jokes, but it's like it's kind of a boring story. Yeah. No, I agree with that Do you want to know it's like funny our bottom two picks are the lowest two rated episodes in season two both sitting at a 7.3 man, which is hey great You can't look at the school system. No, no, no, I'm not I'm just mentioning about that But it was just the fact that our bottom two are the lowest No, because this is how we're figuring out what episodes are what episodes? No. Oh, we can't see the iPad said Do you want me to come over there? Don't make me come over this. There we go do that because we because if you see the score you'll be you'll be I think I can make my own decisions Absolutely not you got influenced by Kanye my dude you'll get influenced by any I was young I think so In terms of worse we have the big tick. You like to be versus green tin. I want to say truth True way where is the best? No, no, no, it's not a truth. It was great. What do you mean? But like the trouble is it was good. Oh, this was a really good season. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like I think they let's I think they look but low is worse than truth. No, I disagree with that. Mainly just because it's a reputable scene The ripped your stuff that happens Well, so we've done big-tick and we've done big-tick I think like truth is good But think about what really happens in truth. Yeah, I mean thinking back on it. It's it's go on they chuck it there Yeah, yeah, I before starting the episode. I was kind of hoping we'd get more Revealed and it kind of just gets told at the beginning of the absurdly like oh, that's the truth There's we find out more about Max's plumber history in season three. Yeah, okay, that's cool So do you want to put the lurk below next? Yeah, I quite like it I'm gonna make one suggestion and if you guys disagree Well, absolutely and that's like framed would you put framed above like below? Which one was framed the one we they run into Kevin doing all this stuff hmm when he becomes Monster. Oh, yeah, I like that one. Yeah, again. This is the problem Okay, well, okay, do we have there it's just some of them are better Do we have any contenders or I could we can kind of we do it down to the how about we'll do one more We'll do one more okay of below. So what do you reckon that? So what's this place? I was a ten or two for me it's between lecture and framed what do you have another one? What do we think of tough luck? It was all right, but I think there were definitely strong groups. It is Sure, but do we think tough luck is better than they look below I don't think it's No, I think it is better. Oh, I don't think it's worse. I think it's slightly above they look below Sam's agrees, but I don't think it was the best episode But it wasn't I think they like below was just a little plane That's got some cool action scenes, but yeah, it is just robot Yeah, I will agree you look below. So I will go with the like below now Let's go back up to the top. What do we think our favorite episode is? I think back with a vengeance. I Think I'm camp here camp. They are I Can agree with I think I would say back with a vengeance kind of breaks that for me I think that the vengeance was just so much fun. Like it really was just there were a lot of great episodes this season This was a great episode that also just was really enjoyable to watch Yeah, see but I but you're also gonna remember like can't back with the vengeance is a season finale They're normal. They always go the back cat, but so it's like back with the vengeance works With the additional history we have between Kevin and Vilgax and also like the know projector being set up a little bit in the start Like it all works as a combination point. So it feels more satisfying But camp fair as an isolated episode that is just awesome if you showed someone infinity or without Yeah, anything before that. Mm-hmm. They're not gonna have the best time Your point, but are we ranking this on end of it? I guess well, we are ranking an individual I do think camp fair is strictly a bad episode. I mean I understand I understand saying as isolated episode It's bitter, but at the same time you're stripping The good qualities about the finale going well. It's the finale. It's built up. It's gonna be good Obviously, it's like well. Yeah, it was still a banger. They can flop a finale None of you listen It was the joke that popped in my head before it's really bad, which is why I didn't say it Mmm Yeah, that's not that's not good, okay moving on So best one I think camp fairs best one. I'm agreeing with that. Okay, well if it's if it's before you say that I'll let you break it out, but can't fear first back with engine. Okay. Yeah, I'm happy with it Personally it breaks it above, but if we're taking them as isolated. Yeah, can't fear it does take it off I think just straight up camp fair is a bitter episode put back for the vineyard because here's the thing with back With the vintage is it good? Yes, but in terms of story beats is it is actually good as camp fair It's cooler to look at then camp fair Seeing all of season one and two now, which would I rather go back and watch? I was gonna say if you're going straight off story, it goes for it does the best Go through down is my is my is my is my pick for third place. Yeah, I would just to be up there I will put I'll put goes for eat down as the place that episode as well. That was a great one Well because like it has one of the best things one of his aliens break loose. Yeah, and then he loses it forever So oh, I know what though. I've got an idea for the fourth one go for it. Oh I've got two of my mind actually. I'm going to say Dr Animo or grudge match. I was gonna say grudge match. I was gonna go for ultimate weapon Oh, I was thinking about ultimate weapon, but I think I could put grudge there I like what you're at with ultimate weapon, but I think I would honestly put dr Ammo above that just because we get to see the mutations, which is a little different But at the same time that was horrific to see See next so no, no, here's that here's the problem I because you this is what you got to sometimes consider of like do I like this more because of that gimmick? Then the actual story. It's based on but also the gimmick is part of the episode. Yeah, it's a big part of the episode I think yeah, I'll put doctor. I think dr. Animo and then we slot in Ultimate weapon ultimate weapon after because ultimate weapon still great episode Do we have any left? We have we still have framed and tough luck. Oh, I thought we had already We did not we talked about it. We don't know. It's between framed and tough luck frame is better than tough luck It's framed better than ultimate weapon. I think framed my I don't think framed better. Don't say no. No, no Framed next then tough luck. I think I'm pretty hit with that. All right, is everyone ready to hear let's get our top Let's hear our ranking for season two the official bention podcast that nobody asked for season two ranking worse to best Let's hear it. Okay, so from worst episode We're saying is the big tech thing galactic enforcers. Gwent in truth. They look below tough luck framed Ultimate weapon dr. Animo and the mutant ready. Yep, grudge match ghost freaked out back with vengeance and camp here That sounds like a really good season of Ben's hand. Yeah, I would like to be what is the highest rate of season two on IMDB? Oh, that is a good question. Yeah now. Okay, and here's a follow question Just why I look that up. Which which do we think we prefer? Do we think we prefer season one or season two? - okay, because like one The aliens are a lot more balanced in terms of how they show up. I know and say that but we got no heat blast We did we did but like that's because in one heat blast takes up so much more screen time than any other aliens Okay, so what were our top three again? Can't be it back with the vengeance and goes freaked out. Interesting. Okay, well So back with a vengeance. Back with a vengeance is the top. It's a nine. It's the top of the season. Yeah, yeah and then following that we have an 8.5 on framed oh Oh, yeah, 8.5 on framed and 8.4 goes freaked out We can't fear can fear is rated 7.7 people don't like people do not like it. I could see I mean to be good. There's still a lot below that. Yeah, but it's an episode that doesn't focus too much on Being unable to turn it out and like kind of does a lot with Gwen Which people to ultimate weapon was a simple but unfortunately Gwen tin and can't fear have the same rating But that is what it is 7.7 a bad rate some lowest score of the season being a 7.3. That is impressive What was the last quarter? 7.3 it was um too tired. It was one second the big tick of the actual forces It was the big tick. Yeah, it was the two that we listen. Awesome. All right. Well, there's official rankings Um, I like our work rankings for these. Yeah, um, does anyone have any personal favorite and moments of this season? The only tricks getting to Swish back and forth. How is it? Like what else do you want? The mutations were pretty cool. The mutations were the master lock is good. Yeah Yeah, it's it's sad that we're going to have to start I mean again happy to start seeing three But it's sad that we're gonna go into episode one without the master lock. I'm gonna miss it I I'm not because it just makes you come out The only thing you can do if when you give a character that level of power Taking it away is the British course of action because if you leave it with them, then you've got to make up stuff that can Deal with that shit and that's good. Well, the way they did it in the episode is as long as he is using it He is pinpointed Everyone who's yeah, but also he was using it and they were like 10 meters away from him and were like, where are you? That's inconsistent. Yeah, I think it's like um The idea of something of being able to keep up with him switching like that and being able to combat him Gwen and max could not be Anywhere near that creature. I was gonna say it would also be the thing of that would be a creature that would require him to have The master control to defeat because it would be something if he faced it when he's first there That would be like, oh my god. I'm screwed. Yeah, that would be like a That is going to die moment. Mm-hmm. Exactly. So we've ended the season with um Bill geek and Kevin often the uh, what was his own call again? The null void. I feel like. So they're trapped over the null void For now for now for now for now Next week June and newsweek when they found their escape. I was gonna say a lot of those creatures mouths look like wild. Yes They was very wild. My face. Yeah, I remember being confused and like looking them up I think as a kid. I remember trying to find out how these related to I'm like It's you don't what wild is that they look more like wild mutt than the wild mutt You meet in the vlogments you meet in truth here. Yeah, because they're like adult ones And they've got like they're like like secular. Yeah. Yeah, they've got the body But the mouths are like a war so you're like they kind of look like a butthole Critter's mouth They look like a bucket butthole They do they do. Yeah, do we want to call that a wrap on season two? I believe that's right. Yeah, so it's like the wrap The time is 1 45 a.m So for sips of season one, right? I'm gonna bid You've been listening to the bintim podcast that nobody asked for one of the podcasts of all time If you've got anything you'd like to say to us anything you'd like to complain about or if you just need a void to scream into Feel free to email us at bentin nobody asked at gmail.com. That's be in 1 0 nobody asked at gmail.com Or follow us on instagram at bentin nobody asked pod Right on bin heads [BLANK_AUDIO]