The Evil Never Dies Podcast
S4 Ep275: Demons (1985)
This week Brett and Carl review Demons from 1985! #demons #supernaturalhorror #LambertoBava #darioargento #italianhorror #horrormovies #horrormoviepodcast #stayevil Intro and outro music by: Omni Slim @omnislim5381 on YouTube
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- Duration:
- 37m
- Broadcast on:
- 29 Jul 2024
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This is the Evil Never Dies podcast with Bretton Carl. This podcast may contain adult themes, violence and strong language. Listener discretion is advised. [Music] [Music] [Music] Hey everybody welcome back to the Evil Never Dies podcast. Episode 275, 275. What's going on Carl? Well me and Brett have been talking politics off camera for the last hour and we will not reveal what we said. Oh first day and in the closet on these politics. Oh we are indeed. [Laughter] Oh we're not gonna we're not gonna we're not gonna say anything. I'm for Voorhees Myers. Voorhees Myers for President. Yeah or should it be Myers Voorhees. So I guess I guess when I come down tomorrow I'm gonna be in the shit house. Yeah the hot manager will be at the yard hunt tomorrow and she is not happy with Brett. And she said I said but what are you gonna do she says well if he doesn't act right I'm gonna fire him. Well you're gonna fire him I said who you gonna get to work in the graveyard. She said anybody could do that job I could find somebody in just a second or two. So Brett's in trouble with hot manager. I love it. I love it. Scarlett is our haunt manager now so that she is. I'm on the shit list. You're on the shit list. I'm always I'm always on somebody's shit list. Yep. So yeah. So we now have a haunt manager and a lead actor. That would be Ayla. So they both now are in key management positions at their young young age. All right. I'm not drinking the night I'm drinking tea. I'm not either I'm got my zero. But anyway we better get started because the more tea I drink the more I got to go to the bathroom so. We'll sip it slowly. I will I will. All right I picked this one this week. Brett sent me a message and said we need to do an Argento movie. Let's do demons and I'm like isn't can we pick something else and he's like yeah look on the list and. That's like we need to knock this list down. We need to lock this list down and I and I had a star by it so I screwed myself in this case. I've been trying to pre watch movies so I don't have to jam them in and and this movie is one I pre watch in June actually so it's fresh on the mind. You got this on Blu Ray then or no. Do I have it on DVD? Yeah. No. No. I have part two. I can't find part one. Huh. I think I watched it on to be. Maybe. I don't know. I watched it. It was actually a good good version of it too. But no I don't have it on Blu Ray or DVD but I got part two. The movie we're talking about is demons. Demons from 1985. I remember as a kid I was the only thing about this movie I remembered. It has a Motley Cruise song in it. Okay. It's got to cover me. I remember that from the time I first saw it on that oh cool it's got a Motley song in it. So that was my biggest memory of demons. So I'm just warning y'all. This might not be a very fun movie for me. Sorry. We almost picked the Argento movie I love but that's coming soon. Yes. All right. Demons directed by Lamberto Baba. I want to know what the Italian name of the movie is. The Italian name of the movie is de Monet. There you go. You said it right. And Lamberto Baba is Mario Baba's son actually. Okay. I didn't know that. Screenplay by Dario Argento. Lamberto Baba, Dardano, Sachete, and Franco Farini. Story by Dardano Sachete. Produced by Dario Argento. Cinematography by Gian Lorenzo Bataglia. Bataglia. Say that five times real fast. Yeah. The thing I noticed, this is not, this is an Argento movie, but he did not direct it. Exactly. He just produced it and I guess wrote part of it. I don't know. Peroboza. Edded the movie. Music by Claudio Simonetti. Who is the keyboardist for the band Goblin. Which is almost an every Argento. Every Italian or a movie at night. Yeah. I'm wearing a ghost shirt tonight just so you know. Production company is DAC Films. Distributed by Titanis. Whoever they are. Release date. It's a Titanis. It's an Italian film production company founded in 1904 by Gustavo Lamberto. Goddamn. 1904. Yeah. So they've been around a while. That's amazing. Release date was the 4th of October of 1985 in Italy. It actually wasn't released in the United States till 1986. Running time of. I never knew this was even released at the theater. I've seen it at the drive in I think. I've seen a lot of these kind of movies back then at the drive in so. In Peoria. In Peoria. Running time of 88 minutes and it seemed way longer than that. God it does. Country of origin is Italy. And box office. It made 1.225 million lira. I don't know how much that is in dollars. But it sounds like a lot. I never looked that up. Made enough money to get a sequel in a almost third movie which ends up being a movie that we both liked. And we reviewed on the show actually. At church. Yes. It was supposedly demon three but. That's the way this was actually. This was supposed to be the first movie in that series of three. Yeah. But they decided that they didn't need a demon three. Nope. All right here. You want to do the plot or you want me to. Well. Basically we get this. I guess she's a college girl. Running around in this masked character is giving out tickets to some mystery movie. At a mystery theater. So she takes two of them and gets one of her college girlfriends to go with her. And off they go to this mysterious movie theater. This isn't takes place in Germany by the way. Is it Germany? Okay. So. Then they go to the movies. And I'll be honest the movie that's playing on the screen is far more interesting than the actual movie demons to me. Exactly. It's like an art. Based on art. Yeah. Movie. It's a lot more interesting. I wish they would have made that movie instead. Yeah. And had the. Yeah. For sure. And folks I did get a little bit of feedback for kind of hammering on poltergas. But remember I still gave it a good rating. So this week. Ah. No. I'm not being nice. So if you're a fan of demon you might be mad at me. I haven't I didn't like this movie when I was a kid. Just full disclosure. The only thing I liked about it was the Motley Cruise song. I thought that was badass. Yep. So that the plot you can go from there because I don't really know what the plot is after that some dude or some girl gets scratched. It looks like Rick James. She did look like Rick James. But I first saw this I thought it was great James didn't you? Yep. Exactly. You get scratched and then turns into a demon. Yep. She put the. I think she's a. There was like a prop in the movie theater. It was a mask. There was like a motor cycle. It was actually from the movie I think. Yep. And she put it on and was goofing around and got scratched. Took it off and it scratched her and. Yep. She turned into a demon demon. There is a bunch of interesting characters at this movie theater. Yeah. There was a pimp and two hoes with him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a blind guy. Who else was in that theater? Yeah. Why would a blind guy at the theater? The movie theater. Yeah. I guess you can still listen to it. I guess. One of them masked people gave him a ticket. Yeah. Who else was in that theater? Oh, there's all kinds of people. Our two girls from the college are there and they run across these two dudes. Kind of. They're like hit bottom. Yeah. They're like hit bottom. So they're included in the mix. Yeah. Just the real. Weird combination of a crowd at this movie theater for this mystery movie. Exactly. Yeah. The Rick James lady gets turned into a demon and then she starts attacking people. Yeah. And any time anybody gets scratched or bit or anything, they turn into ones. They turn into a demon. Really, really brilliant plot line. You just get scratched and then you're a demon. Exactly. So genius of Argento here or I don't blame Argento. I blame the director. This is not a very logical movie of any kind. I don't know, man. There are a lot of demon movies out in the 80s. Remember Night of the Demons? Yeah. We should have reviewed that. Anyway, put it on the list. What else you got in the I'm just saying. What else we got in the plot? That's all I can do with things about it. That's about it. They just go around trying to not get. Scratch. That's by these demons and trying to kill them all off. Everybody in the theater. Because there's a lot of people in the theater. That theater's full. Yeah. That mask people gave out a lot of tickets. Yeah. Do we know who set this up? Never, never knew. Never said that that didn't think so. But I think the guy, the mask guy, I think he was already a demon. Could have been looking to make more demons for his. Well, since they were demons, wouldn't it be Satan setting this up? It was damn Satan that he was in the mask. It was the damn devil himself. All right. Let's go a little bit over the filming and stuff here. It was shot in nine weeks in June and July of 1985. On location in Berlin, Germany and. The policies. Italy. That's kind of weird that, but they filmed it in Berlin because it's still had. I must have been on West Berlin. Because East Berlin would have been part of the communist Germany. Oh, that's right. That didn't come down to the wall didn't come out until 1989. Yeah. So this that's West Germany was was not, you know, communist at all. But I can't see him filming it in the Soviet block country. Oh, it's what I had a fit if there's filming a demon movie in East Germany. Exactly. The idea to have the demons eyes glow when the film came to Baba on set who said when filming a scene where the demons approached the camera involved the actors wearing were. Practive paper, which caused the effect. So they just had paper over their eyes. That's it. Hmm. Just paper. And special effects for on this film were. Done by Sergio. Stivaletti. Who also worked on Argento's opera. We haven't done that one yet either, have we? No, we haven't done. We've got a lot of our gentle movies to cover. We still have the. The spirit of we haven't done. Yeah, I know. And the remake. And the remake. So. Yeah. So. We got a lot of shit to cover. Now I look for the soundtrack on. It's not available. Well, you just the score are not the. Bad bands because they're copyright. That shit would have ran out years ago. But it had Motley crew. Who else was on there, except Saxon. Billy Idol. Billy Idol wedding. Rick Springfield. What's he doing on there? I don't know. And there was some other band too. I can't. Some Swedish heavy metal band. I can't think of the name of them, but. Yeah, that's been out of print probably for decades. But yeah, the score is there, but. For the goblin guy, that's it's not the best score. I wouldn't even want it. Oh, yeah. Here's the track. Listen, Billy Idol white wedding except fast as a shark. Motley crew. Save our souls. That's a good crew song. And then Rick Springfield walking on the edge of the pretty maids. So that is. Yeah, that actually is a pretty good Springfield song too. Go west. We close our eyes. They actually did a song on some of the rocky soundtracks. That's all I know about them. The adventurers send my heart. Never heard of them. They're like a Canadian pop band or something. Yeah, that go west. The sort of Northern Irish pop band. Irish pop. And Saxon with everybody up. That's a good song. Yeah, they had an impressive sound from music soundtrack. I don't know how they got all these people to do it. Exactly. What album was that save our souls on? It is from theater of pain and it's probably the best song on there besides home sweet home, really. Okay. You know, that album is really killed by every member of Motley crew and me too. It's been their worst album. Well, it used to be their worst album. That new tattoo is worse, but we don't want to get into Motley crew bashing. We've been there done that. Been there done that. But I'm just saying that save our, it's a good song. It's probably the best song on the album. It fit the movie pretty fucking good too. The whole save our souls thing got demons and possibly the devil in a mask. Yeah. All right. Let's go over the cast here. Oh Jesus. It's like 50 people in my Italian is getting better. There's 50 people in this fucking movie. Oh, not according to this. Well, they didn't include them all because there's like a hundred in the movie theater. First off, we got Urbano Barberini as George. Natasha Hovey as Cheryl. She was like that one of the. She was the girl at the beginning. Yeah, she was sort of the heroine of the movie. Carl Zinni as Ken. Paola. Paul. I'm fucking it up. My jinxed you. Paolo. Coso as Kathy. Nicoletta Elmey as Ingrid the Usherrette. Another one of Dario's daughters as Hannah. Is she the one that ended up dying because of anorexia? I don't know. But she was the Cheryl girls friend. Okay. I didn't even realize that I don't think. Next we got Garretta. Gian Carlo as Rosemary. And he a fucking mobster. I don't know. I think so. Then we got Michelle. Sahovey as the man in the mask. The devil. And he also played the part of Jerry too. Okay. Which I think was the other movie, the lead in it. Yeah. And next we got Bobby Rhodes is Tony the pimp. Oh, good deal. He did a good job in it though, man. He was probably did the best part in the whole movie. He played a good pimp. Who played the Rick James lady? Oh. How many people watch this? Even those who Rick James is. That's the. I think it's been a good time. Yeah. But I did a shot. Gian Carlo. Honestly, we're showing our age because I bet half the people don't even know who Rick James is who's listening or watching. I'm Rick James bitch. Yeah. Rick James was a really cool funk star from the 70s. Long ass dreadlock. Yeah. He was sort of everybody's hero. Back then. Yeah. Unfortunately, he passed away. Yeah. He passed away from the 70s. Oh, yeah. And that's the cast of demons. The reported cast. Report. Yeah, there was lots of extras for sure. Yeah, there were. A lot of people in demon mask. Not blue demons. Just demons. Just demons. The blue demon would have showed up. It would have been a better movie. I've been talking about the blue demon a lot here lately. I don't know why. Too many couldn't fix that mask. Blue demons done. We could make a blue demon. It wouldn't be hard. With the metal with the broke mask. Yeah, we could just use it as a head. Yeah, we can glue it together with that silicone glue. Yeah, we could make something. All right, I guess we'll guess we'll move on to some trivia. There's not much. I didn't figure there would be. The building that they were in the theater. Is called the Metropole. Yes, I remember that. And. It's actually still there in Berlin to this day. And it's called Club Goya, and they have horror conventions there. Thanks to its appearance in the film. That's sort of cool trivia really. All right, this is sort of screwed up in Germany. It was released. Demons was released as a sequel. And the second film, the actual sequel was released as the first movie. Well, demons too was released first. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm. Isn't that crazy? Because I think they did them movies back to back. Probably, but you wouldn't know what's weird. I have demons too on DVD, but I don't have demons one. Don't I don't get it. I might have a burnt copy of it. That's puzzled me for years. Well, I have demons too, but not demons one. Maybe I hated demons one and sold it, but like two. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know. It's a mystery. Mystery of the ages. Director Lambert Obama cites this as his personal favorite of films he's ever directed. The name of the cinema Metropole can be seen as a building in the first Silent Hill video game. Well, I guess it found a home in Silent Hill. In the lobby of the theater as a poster of Argento's 1972 film Four Flies on Gray Velvet. Other posters include the 1980 concert film No Nukes, 1927's Metropolis, an AC/DC poster. Possibly the 1980 documentary Let There Be Rock. That's sort of cool. Yeah, you got some good trivia tonight. Sort of a letdown movie, but a lot of good trivia. So, a lot of good intentions with this movie. I do think. Let's see here. The blind man going to the movie was meant to be an ironic joke. No, it didn't work out so well. No. This was the final film of "Nicoletta Elmi" whoever she was. I think she was the Rick James lady. No, that wasn't her. There's something of an inside joke here from the filmmakers. The one thing that the group probably should have done was to keep watching the movie. If a movie seems to be coming to life, then watching the movie would have given the people more information about what they were up against. That is a true statement. Exactly. Aren't they digging up Nostradamus' grave or some shit? Yeah, and the other movie they were watching. The movie that I wish would have been made, yeah. Exactly, yeah. I'm getting into that here right now. Good. I'm being prophetic. You know, I was born on the same list. All right, they're not easy. They're Nostradamus. No, my birthday and Nostradamus' birthday are the same. Oh, really? That's cool. Yeah. In the movie within a movie, the tomb of Nostradamus was opened and the demonic mass was taken out of it. Nostradamus' actual grave did get moved after 1789, and there was an apocryphal story that was spread widely, that when the tomb was opened during the French Revolution, his corpse was wearing a medallion with the exact date of his, this tent, this tournament. Yes. Also, also 200 years after his death. That's true. The grave robbers were supposedly cursed and immediately shot. Historians dispute the veracity of the story, but it clearly inspired the filmmakers. I've heard that story before anything to do with this film. Oh, yeah. There's no eating popcorn here with my flash bucket. That's why I got my popcorn rag. You wouldn't see the flash? Yeah. When it came out, but Lisa put the butter on it, so I had to get my popcorn rag because my fingers are all oily. You have a special popcorn rag? Yeah. Because I put the, I usually make my popcorn in my little popcorn machine, but. Yeah, I wish I had one of them, man. I can't stand microwave popcorn. Yeah. It's gross, dude. Well, my popcorn gets real oily. Oops. I think I just hit the computer. Yeah, I like some, I like some real pop popcorn, man. I need to, I need to get a good pan. I can make it in. That's how my grandmother used to make it in a iron cast iron. As a kid, we had an old popcorn maker. It was thing weight a ton, dude. It was like six quarts and it had a little sort of like a crockpot. I had a big lid on it and shit. Yeah, I've seen those. And it had a big heat and element on the bottom. You put the oil in there and then make good popcorn. Yeah. That thing was probably from the 50s, dude. I swear to God. Are we done with trivia? Yeah, trivia is done. Now we're just rambling the fuck on. Yeah. Much more to say about this movie. Not really. Other than what's your thoughts on it? I've pretty much gave it when it started. I've never been a fan of demons. Even when I was a kid. And there were a lot of silly movies that came out in the 80s and I found this one to be one of the more silly. Yeah. I don't remember demons too offhand. I just know I own a copy of it and I don't own this one. So that tells me something. But it's just not a good movie. It's almost like a comedy parody type movie to me. I don't know. Again, I think when our gentle doesn't direct a movie, it doesn't turn out as well. Yeah. Now that church movie, which is demons three, we both enjoyed the shit out of it. Did he direct that or? No, he was just the producer. But in that case, it worked. Plus the daughter was in that one. So that made it better, I guess. Yeah. She did a good job in that. But anyway, so what are you going to give it? Dude, I can't give this movie nothing. I mean, it's got a cool motley crew song. It's got a cool billy idol song. It's actually got a decent Rick Springfield song. So I guess you can get a point five for that. Some of the special effects are okay. So I'll give it a one point five. One point five. One point five, dude. That's all I can give demons. Now, last week I get poltergas to three, so people can quit being mad at me now. Okay. Poltergas is a damn epic movie compared to demons. Not a good movie. I don't recommend it. I would not watch it. If you haven't seen it, don't. You'll regret it if you do. It sucks. All right, I don't hate this movie. I think I agree with you. It's very campy. It was campy when it came out. Yeah. There's like, remember when we did wax work? Wax work is a campy movie, but in a fun sort of way. Yeah. There's nothing fun about demons. Yeah, they tried to be a little comedic in this too. Yeah, and it just don't work. And I probably hadn't seen this since it's maybe seen it maybe 15 years ago. Well, I'm very familiar with it. Oh, I am too, but it's a cult classic. I guess they considered a cult classic actually. I don't know. But yeah, I think the first time I've seen it, like I said, I think I was at the drive-in. Who knows? You know what was not bad about the movie was the ending. I thought it had a really cool ending. Yeah. So that's where my .5 came from to get it up out for one. Very unique ending that I did not see coming. So credit to the ending of the movie. Yeah. I told you not to watch it so you'll never know what it is. And you got to watch all the credits too. You got to watch the credits. No, you don't. Don't watch this movie, folks. There's a jump scare, see, I ruined it for everybody. Don't watch it. It's not good. All right. Well, what is your rating? Well, I wasn't really finished talking, but now I can't remember. I can't remember what I was thinking now because you got me off track. You fucked me up. Well, here, Bad Bunny is here to talk to you. And he says demons is not a good movie, Brett. I actually like the special effects in it. I thought they did it. I thought they did a good job, you know. They're okay. That's what I gave it the grade I did. Sort of goofy looking demons, but they weren't weren't that bad. It wasn't terrible. The special effects aren't bad. No, that's why it got better rating. It could have got a zero if it wasn't careful. I couldn't give an Argento any kind of movie a zero though, but Argentos had some really shitty movies in his day. He's also had some fucking master movies. Yeah. Anyway, your thoughts. That's my thoughts. Good soundtrack to. Yeah. I think the songs really fit with the scenes that they were in. For sure. That fast is a shark back. Except they were all running around trying to get out of the place and shit. I'm going to give it. I got to give it a two, man. It's not that awful bad. I suggest watching it at least once. I don't. I think you just ought to watch demons too and skip this one like you were in Germany. That's why they put demons too out first because it's a better movie. That's why I came out and the other one is a sequel. But Germans knew what the fuck we were doing. Can you tell the difference in between them though? I don't think I've even seen demons too. I think in demons too, they're watching demons one on TV. Oh, really? Yeah. I think that's how it is. And then the demons come to life just like in demons one. Oh, okay. It might be better to watch two and then one. It might be kind of a cool little twist. All right. Well, maybe we'll have to review it in season eight. Yeah. Season eight. All right. Well, you got any last words, Carl. I have no other words except tomorrow. We're back in the haunted house and we got the goddamn hunt manager going to be there yelling at. She's going to bust out the whips on me here. Yeah. All right, everybody. Well, thanks for watching, listening and. Subscribing. Subscribing. Yeah, we got. Wait. We're almost up to 700 now. That's awesome. Thank you everybody so much for everybody. Subscribe. Check us out on all the social medias. We need actors still. So if you're in Fort Worth, North Texas, we need actors for. And support staff and support staff. For the week before hollow weekend before Halloween. We're going to try to pull off this shindig again. So. Weather permitting. It's going to be fine this year. Yeah, it's actually been. Cool. Below normal temperatures that which is weird as shit for. Yeah, this is the hottest time of the year in Texas. In the July in Texas for sure. I think it only got up to like 88 degrees today. It was 88 today. So. Yeah. Weird ass weather. All right, everybody. Thanks again. Last thing I got to add. Our new theme song. Oh, yeah. For sure. Got to give credit. I'm waiting credit. You give credit. You're the host of the show. Omni slim. Be in the show notes. All of his all of his info. It wasn't in the show notes last week. Yes, it was. It's the first thing. No, it wouldn't. Yes, it is. Not on YouTube. Should be because that's where I copy and paste from. I don't think so. Go back and look, bitch. You go look. Now you're going to go back and look as you go. I got you fucked up. You got me fucked up. All right, everybody. Stay. Bye. The preview you are about to watch is for a movie that is unlike any you have ever seen before. It is for a movie that goes beyond temporary fear to everlasting terror. It is a movie called Demons. Yes, the demons are coming and they're coming for you. Morning. If you have the courage to see demons sit near and exit, otherwise you might never get out. In your theater, who will survive the touch of the demons and who will not? The others. With music by Billy Idol, Muffly Crew, the adventures Rick Springfield and Saxon. This is no dream. This is happening right now. And it could be happening to you. Demons. They will make cemeteries their cathedrals. And the cities will be your tunes. Will you survive it? Demons. The End. [Music] [Music]