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Is there a chance Drake Maye is better than anticipated?

Brain Daboll's reaction during his meeting with Drake Maye should excite Pats fans, but don't put all the eggs in this basket. Fitzy and Hart discuss the rookie quarterback, what to make of the clip with Daboll, and the chances Maye is better than anticipated.

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19m
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14 Jul 2024
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Brain Daboll's reaction during his meeting with Drake Maye should excite Pats fans, but don't put all the eggs in this basket. Fitzy and Hart discuss the rookie quarterback, what to make of the clip with Daboll, and the chances Maye is better than anticipated.

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Now, in addition to just being good quality off season content, which we all need to get us through to training camp, and ultimately the season, which kicks off in, holy smokes. It's a carry the 10 for a pretty soon. So season kicks off pretty soon. September 5th, we've got Ravens at Chiefs, and then Sunday the 8th, 1 o'clock. You got the Patriots and the Bengals in the naddy, as the kids like to call it. So it's right around the corner, folks. Whether you like it or not, though, we don't want to wish away any of these precious, beautiful days of summer. So that's really fun content, number one. Number two, it shows you exactly why. So that was Brian Dayball doing a combined interview with Drake May. To me, Andy, that clip showcases, to a large degree, why there was such interest from the New York football giants in Drake May. That is so much so that it validates all the rumors we heard about them wanting to trade up from six to three and get him. You can see, and then subsequently, you see the Jaden Daniels combine interview with Brian Dayball and the Giants. That one doesn't go nearly as well. You could see-- I won't say a lust in the eyes of Brian Dayball for Drake May, but you definitely could tell he was looking at him thinking, all right, this kid is way ahead of where I thought he would be. He's very affable. Processes information quicker than I anticipated. He definitely gets our offense, which obviously has, you know, McDaniel's, Earhart, Weiss, Perkins, elements to it down there in New York as well. Now you understand why he would have wanted to trade up for him as well. And also, this should give people around here, like, Take Heart Pat's Nation. Drake May may actually understand football a lot more than people give him credit for, as people try to make him. You know, Dayball thought, I got my next Josh Allen. Maybe we do have the next Josh Allen, but he's not playing for the Giants. He could well be playing for the Patriots. So I see why that clip resonated so well, and, you know, why Dayball was so interested, and why Pat's fans should be fired up for Drake May. And why, in December, I started comparing Drake May to Josh Allen, and people told me I was stupid. It was ridiculous. It didn't make any sense. And then you said that comment. I just-- people, it was-- And then you said Jason Tatum didn't want him on Team USA. Well, no, that's a totally different thing. That's speculation. This was just observation of talent. It was not that hard to see. And, you know, I'm certainly no Brian Dayball. I haven't torn down and rebuilt Josh Allen the way he did, and had the successes that they had together. To me, it was just obvious when you looked at Drake May, the abilities he had were evident. Now, I agree with you on the part that, for those of you that are doubters, this should make you feel even better about the pick. Okay, Elliot Wolf loved him. The Patriots loved him. And oh, by the way, Brian Dayball loved him, to the point where they even checked out trading up to number two to potentially take him with the commanders. That's additional validation, I guess, I would say. This actual clip, I think might be the most overrated thing since Brian Cox hit against the Colts in 2001. I-- There's a tone center. He knocked. He'd de-cleated Pathan, bro. Yep. Yep. Biggest hit in the history of football, according to some people. This video, because he can regurgitate what Brian Dayball says, doesn't-- If he was a stumbling, bumbling fool, it would bother me. Like, there could be negatives in this video. I actually thought he was confused at the end. I think at the end when he says like, "Ah, gotcha, Rita 72." He's like, "I didn't get you, but glad you told me, and I'll agree with you because you're the coach." So I thought there was a little overrated nature to this. But the big takeaway is, Elliot Wolf, Alex Van Pelt, who's a QB guy, Ben McAdoo, Brian Dayball, all believe that Drake May is a top two to three pick in the National Football League and a future franchise quarterback. And not that they couldn't all be wrong, because it's happened before. But if I'm a Patriots fan, it just makes me feel even better about the pick and the guy I have under center soon. Yeah, I think Patriots fans-- Yeah, sure. We're probably blowing-- I won't say blowing this clip wildly out of proportions, but we might be making a mountain out of something that is a glorified molehill. Yeah, it's fun to hear all those terms and words get thrown around again. I think we used to hear a lot of Linda and Rita back in the day when Dave Bull was here in the Brady era as well. So could have been-- We used Rip and Liz in high school. Could have been some nostalgia tingles to that as well. But hey, listen, there's also another clip we're not going to play because it's a little bit longer. But there's another clip from the same episode where Joe Shane is talking to some of-- He's the GM of the New York football Giants and was there in Buffalo with Brian Deble a couple of years ago. They went together to try to fix the Giants. There's a clip where he's telling some of his assistants like, "Hey, look across the other side of the stadium. That's where the Patriots are. I'm going to go over there and have a conversation with them and let them know if they decide they want to move the third pick. Give me a call and let me know." And then subsequently we see an off-camera conversation between Elliot Wolf and Joe Shane, where Joe Shane basically tells him like, "Hey, look, if you're going to move three before you do it, give me a call so I can make an offer." Like they were hot on the trail of Drake May. Now, look, a couple of years from now we may say the Giants may be like, "Ooh, dodge that bullet. Wish we dodged the Daniel Jones one, but we didn't get Drake May or they might say, "Damn it, we should have offered the moon, the sun, and more to get up to two or one and find a way to take our guy." I think Drake May is going to be-- You've sold me. I'm in. You know, I'm not the full-blown maniac that you are at this point, but I am in on Drake May. And I love seeing that other teams that we're looking for a future franchise under center, like the Giants, we're in on him as well. Andy, I got some other stuff I want to ask you about the Patriots real quick, but at first let's get back to the phones. Our friend Tom is in Boston and wants to talk Pat's defense with us. What's up, Tom? Hey, thanks, man. I'm a big fan. Hey, appreciate you. Thanks for calling. Great to hear you, buddy. Thanks for the sound. It was you and your guy. You were throwing the ball around. You were like, "It's Tom Brady, throw it to James White. It killed me." I wish you would do that stuff again. I just wanted to say that before I talk about sports. I'll give it a shot. Thank you, brother. What's on your mind today, my guy? All right. So I think we should stop worrying about the cap since we have a limited cap space relatively to the rest of the NFL. Next year, we even have like 200 million, maybe less now that we've just signed some players. But money isn't the problem. The cap's going to go up like 20 million a year. Let's just refine all our defensive players. Go all in as a defensive veteran, defensive team, and then just build our offense and our special teams through the draft and the next two drafts just go all in on offense. I love Drake May. I think we go good at doing wide receivers. Our line is a little shaky, but that's another thing. Just keep drafting, keep adding, keep plugging. And just kind of preserve the veterans we have, because we're already so young. You know what I mean? We can take 30-year-old players. Like, I get, you know, when you're two times Super Bowl champion, and you have stars at every position, and they're all pro bowlers, and they all cost a lot, you've got to kind of budget, and you've got to, you know, spend your money wisely. You know, that makes sense. But when you're a team that's four and 13, and you have nobody, you should be able to sign everybody, and I think they should sign everybody, especially, you know, and, you know, if you're a bad team, you want to reward good players. You want there to be, you know, something to get out of being a good player, a good person, a good human being. And then my final point is, you know, we want to help out Drake May. What if we got him a defense pick up stops so that, you know, if he threw him a pick, you know, he doesn't have to, you know, cry in his pillow. He's like, you know, there's going to be another day, there's going to be another drive. My defense is going to get a stop. So, you know, I think that's just all things to think about, and, you know, I think you guys are great, and I'll let you go, and, you know, let me know what you think. Well, appreciate the call, Tom. Thanks very much, my man. And his line is open if you guys want to jump in the Pat's pool at 617-779-797-937. You know, there can be an argument made, Andy, that because the Patriots defense, I know I've been more on the side of buying in on the idea that they could be a top 10, maybe even top five, as some say, unit in the league this year. They finished seventh overall last year. Now, hopefully you get Judon coming back. Hopefully, I said you get Judon playing on this current salary, or maybe you extend him. Maybe you get a full season out of Christian Gonzalez. Hell, maybe we even get a cameo again from Marcus Jones, who missed last year. Alex Austin's improving. You got Barmore on his big four-year $92 million deal, which I think both of us believe to be money well spent. Maybe there's an argument to be made. Just continue to pay the defense that is performing at a high rate and keep throwing all your draft darts at the offense in hopes that you land elite wide receivers. You got your quarterback and you can get some of that talent that you could help make a playoff push with. Yeah, I mean, it's not a ridiculous call. You don't have endless funds. There is a salary cap. It feels like you do right now because you do have a lot of cap space now and coming in the future, but you have issues and holes. We're talking about a pass rusher who didn't play last year. You're going to give him a raise. Well, what if he doesn't pay play this year? You don't still don't have a pass rusher. You may feel great that Judon, you kept him on your roster, but if he's hurt again, which is not outside the realm of possibility for a 32-year-old who has gone down the injury road, it was a very cut and dry call. I still think you need to be smart and otherwise you look back in a year or two and say, why'd we sign Steve Pierce? Why'd we sign Chris Sale? Like sometimes in the moment, it's like, just sign him. Just sign everybody. It'll be great. And then you look back. Well, it's a super bowl hero. I mean, a world series hero. Yeah. And then you look back even with the Celtics. Like it's now is the time to sign everybody. And then you may look back and say, huh, that poor zingus. He's been nothing but injuries ever since they won that title kind of thing. And even while they were winning that title. So sometimes, you know, when you look back, the contract doesn't look quite as palatable as when you were talking yourself into, oh, we got plenty of money. Why not do it now? And then I would also say, this is a team that needs, now maybe you nail some of these in the draft, but needs a number one receiver. Well, number one receivers cost $30 million a year. Like that's a big chunk of the salary cap and needs a left tackle. Left tackles cost what, $25 million a year? So elite one, yeah. The top of the market is over 20 for sure. Right. If you're looking to sign those guys and or pay those guys somehow, some way, trade for one of those guys and pay them, you're talking about $55 million in calories, salary cap space, essentially right there. And so that's on the horizon. And then we talk about some of these other things, like a free safety. Well, you'd like a nice one of those or an actual second corner because Jonathan Jones looks like he's, you know, getting a little longer in the tooth and has dealt with some injuries in recent years and the pass rusher. So the cap space that is pretty available now, when you're talking about premium positions, like pass rusher, pass protector, pass catcher, you can eat up a lot of cap space in a hurry. Did you all have a little Freudian slip there instead of saying salary cap, say calorie sap? Because that's what you did on Awaken 180. Got it in for you. Nice. Nice. Well done. I don't even need it. And I'm already out of the house. Yep. See, there you go. You're welcome. Uh, quickly, uh, checking right now, you know, I see what Tom is saying. And the funny thing is he's actually kind of right in so much. Oh, but the problem is defense doesn't win. That's the other issue. But it keeps you in games until you can your offense. Oh, it keeps you in games. I want to win games. The offense has lost you so many games the last couple of years. It's absurd. Offense wins. And that's what we need to remember. And offense loses. We often lost them a whole lot of games last year. Oh, absolutely. It can give it then it can take it. If I think Drake May may live both sides of that coin this fall. His name is going to be his name is going to be said with the F word in various parts of his name throughout the season. Good and bad. Yes. Correct. Drake F and May is our quarterback. Yeah. And after Drake F and May what that F for you do. How many different ways can we say that? And we kept it radio friendly. Everybody don't have to turn the channel. Ah, I was listening to 15 heart and they were dropping F bombs everywhere. Plus we'd be fired when we're ready. Trust me. We'll cluster F. Oh, I'm going down in a blazer glory. That's a promise. Checking over the cap.com right now. Patriots actually have 44 million in cap space right now. Yeah, they could afford. So back to our conversation from the last break. If they wanted to, they could go hog wild and sign. Matt Judon and Steph Gilmore. Sure. Bring in Steph Gilmore to play free safety this year. Sign him to a two trade for Brandon Ayuk. All these things are doable or your boy. T Higgins out in Cincinnati. Between the two by the way, it would cost the same. I don't know. I don't care what the cost is in terms of trade value and salary. Between the two, you still prefer Higgins over Ayuk. Um, I actually think I would go Ayuk now. But I'll take you watch a little receiver, huh? What's that now? You've been watching any of that receiver show? No, but is that where that, um, Devonta Adams clip came out? Yes. With him saying how miserable he was and he can't, he hates this effing day. Yeah, I was actually getting it. I wanted to try to play that one. It's the greatest clip I've ever heard. I can't believe they put it out. Oh, he's, he's so, I'm telling you, uh, Omaha productions to have to sit here and do some ball washing for Peyton Manning or the Manning brothers in general. As a Pats fan kills me, actually, it doesn't really because Peyton Manning, in my estimation is underrated for all of his contributions to the game on the field and more, even if, you know, he played for the whiny bitch Colts. And even if he did get a shipment sent to him, I mean, excuse me, his wife, I mean him and all the other, I don't care. I, I don't care. He was a phenomenal quarterback. He helped change the game. He was part of the greatest quarterback rivalry of all time. And Omaha productions is killing it. The Manning cast is fantastic content, especially if the game is boring. As great as I think Joe Buck and Troy Echman are together in the booth. They're the number one football team hands down these days. But this last year's last summer's quarterback series was great. Receiver is even better. George Kittle. Awesome. Debo Samuel. Awesome. Justin Jefferson watching his tour, you're going through a whole season with these guys. I'm on Ross St. Brown. Dude, you are going to wish your last name was St. Brown after you watched the show, Andy. Because did you know his dad was too, was the two time Mr. Universe? Uh, yeah, I didn't know that. They are such hardos in the Brown family, but he also got a sense of humor. He's memorized his wife based on breeding. Yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's memorized the name of all, not, but we're not talking about the Brady 10 or the Brady six or whatever it is, the all the quarterbacks taken before him or whatever. It's not Chrome Artie trying to name all 11 of his kids and Tyree Kill is catching up quickly. Now that he's got a name at least 10 that we know of, uh, I'm on Ross St. Brown can read you off the name of all 16 receivers drafted before him a couple of years ago. And the guy got paid and he has a hard ass, like it's just, it's so good. It is so interesting, but you get some sneak peeks on San Francisco because they're covering Kittle and Debo and I think I actually would go for Ioke as well. But I take either right now. Oh, sure. And then the rest can fall into place and then I can be excited about Polk and Baker, but not put pressure on him and DiMario Douglas and all those guys and just let them come into their own behind the guy with the pressure. All right. We'll share that clip from the receiver show in just a couple of minutes. When we come back in our final break before we take you right up until 3 10 p.m. with the mass mutual Red Sox pregame show in anticipation of first pitch today, 4 10 p.m. big one between the royals and Red Sox from friendly Fenway Park. We'll do that plus Andy just mentioned DiMario Douglas. Could we have a pop star in the making and is there a chance that maybe he could be your next new favorite patriot? We'll discuss that in our final segment here talking Pat's Fitzy and Hart only on W E E I.