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And head coach Brian Dayball had a very special guest on the program. 72, Tundra, float, H-angle. Tundra right, 72, Tundra, float, H-angle. Yeah, so Tundra stands for what? 200s, 200s and what a float stamp. He's got the corner of the aisle and the flag. We call it a flag, so we end up saying corner flag with the flag, and the angle is an angle. You got me on that? Then you use Rita to the right, Linda to the left, it was a flip formation. Good? Rita to the right, Linda to the left. 72 five-man protection slide to the wheel. So if the strength of the formation is right, which, what formation is that again? Yeah, going off and right. Yeah, right. He's there, the wheel's over there, the line would slide there. We'd say 72 Rita. 72 Rita, gotcha. So let's say this before you go to the next one. Oh, just give me all the Rita's and all the Linda's. But you can see in this clip or here rather on the podcast as well as we broadcast live on this what if Wednesday for July 10th, 2024, you get a feel for exactly why Brian Dayball may have been so committed to wanting to trade up to third overall to acquire the talents and services of young Drake May at quarterback. This guy might have an extremely bright future as he is both affable and knowledgeable of the inner workings of the modern NFL offense, and this doesn't even get into his physical prowess on the field, which we will see just two weeks from now. But we play this clip and we share this little vignette kicking off the latest. What if Wednesday episode? What if Wednesday episode six? Because how Drake May's season goes, how the New England Patriots season goes, all ties in my mind to one particular unit on the football field, the play of the offensive line. How Drake May looks this season and when you may actually see Drake May may be in the words of Andy Hart, hinging upon this particular what if question? What if the New England Patriots offensive line is more offensive than we thought? What if the Patriots can't get their offensive line together? What if left tackle becomes the same kind of problem it has been for the last several years since we got but that one contiguous healthy season of Trent Brown back in 2018. So that's the question today on the floor on the latest, what if Wednesday here on six rings in football things? What if the Patriots got a real problem Andy on the offensive line this season? So in our first handful of these what ifs, it's been like, what if Bill Parcel stayed? What if Bill Belichick stayed? What if Tom Brady stayed these like real true what ifs? Today's feels like, what if the sun comes up tomorrow because I think there's a really good shot that the offensive line is a problem. But what if it happens? What if it comes to fruition? What if Chucky Okora for can't play left tackle? What are we going with by the way? Are we going with Chuck? Are we going with Chucky? Are we going to go with because the full name of going to be honest is that we may hear Jim Nance struggle through that. I struggle with it and I struggle every time I have to type it which is even worse. I get like red squiggly lines and then like have to figure out what vowel is missing or what I doubled up on. So yeah, that's a problem. Well, that may only be a temporary problem if he loses his job like he did last year in Pittsburgh. It won't be an issue anymore. But no, I think this could be, we talk about the term fatal flaws in football, to me this could be a fatal flaw, but not just in terms of winning football games. I think that may be secondary to you could see careers of three guys. I'll just throw three, start with three because there's more. I think the careers of Gerard Mayo, Alex van Pelt and Drake May could all be derailed if this offensive line blows and that's probably, oh Andy, you're such a freaking exaggeration. I'm glad you play Randy, oh hey, I can't believe I am here. I am, I stand, I stand this topic. I stand this take. I stand the entire idea that it all hinges upon the offensive line this year, which is so not hot take talk radio in a way because we spend so much time on, I've said it, the NFL is just about the quarterback position, football at all levels, you got to have the quarterback and I still believe that. But if the quarterback can't do his job, it all falls apart. And like Alex van Pelt, you can only scheme up so much if your offensive line can't block, if your offensive line can't give the quarterback time, if you're offensive, like a year ago, we blame Ramondre Stevenson for having a not great season a year ago. I think a lot of that was a byproduct of he had zero trust in his line, was trying to do it too much early in the year, was like looking for holes, trying to figure out how I'm going to turn this chicken, you know what, into some chicken salad for three yards. And it just go back to 2022, I mean, like this has been an issue for years. I know they tried to address it with by drafting Isaiah when years ago, like it didn't work. Trent Brown gave you a Trenton Brown. Now, Cincinnati Bengal legend Trenton Brown gave you the one good season in 2018. He leaves, they go with win. That doesn't work. Brown comes back. It's been a swinging door. It hasn't been the turnstile that it's been on a number of teams, but it's been an issue for a long time. We spent all of last season, or rather, all of last off season begging them to please address the left tackle issue and the line on the whole, we called the right tackle battle, the whole bow rumble or the bum fight. That wasn't solved until halfway through the season, they kicked Mike on wheno out there to right tackle. We don't even know if he's going to be the right tackle this year. Is it going to be Kate and Wallace will be on wheno, where's he going to play? There are way too many questions like yesterday on the podcast or rather Tuesday, should I say the most recent six rings podcast, be a fricking pro. We can knock it off. Don't timestamp it. We're actually six minutes and 55 seconds into this. So yes, it is 9.14 in the morning on Wednesday. How is everybody doing? I'll check it out. Hey, hello to our affiliates throughout New England, traffic and weather together on the 22s coming up. So it's so difficult to imagine that the offensive line doesn't determine when Drake May plays in exactly what happens this season on the offense as well. Yesterday we talked about safety, like we don't love the idea on the most recent pop. We don't love the idea that we don't know who the free safety is just yet. Okay. But that's going to probably work itself out over the course of the season and they have a lot of strength and redundancy, it's strong safety, some good corners, et cetera. The defense, no one's really worried about even our friends on Patriots unfiltered discussed your most recent column on Tuesday, July 9th. And they said, yeah, just sort of making off season talk, but we all can agree the defense is going to be good. We think they have upgraded at receiver. We think the backs are pretty solid tight end. You've got a dependable veteran and then we'll see what's going on with Hunter Henry. The receivers might actually be, oh my God, did Fitzy say this, the Homer, the Foxboro fanboy, the receiving core might actually be good. But how are you supposed to know what kind of quarterback Drake May is going to be? How are you supposed to see if remandre Stevenson is worth four years and 36 million? How are you supposed to see how this wide receiving core is going to develop? How can you see Andy? What kind of offense Alex van Pelt is going to run? And if Stevenson and Gibson can turn into Chub and Hunt 2.0, if you don't get consistent quality line play and there are, say for David Andrews at center, questions galore all over the place and most notably left tackle. So Vincent, not Brisbane or Brown, says has to be better than last year, has to be for coaching and depth reasons, has to. I don't know if that's an opinion or him trying to convince himself because both. Yeah, I don't think it has to be better. I think there's every bit the possibility it could be worse. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Like coaching? I don't know anything like Scott Peters is suddenly like Dante Skarneki at 2.0. I don't know. We'll see. I hope he's better. Well, let's also point this out, in 2022, you had, ready for this, you had, you had Matt Patricia, the former defensive coordinator in previous Detroit Lions head coach, reverse engineering the offense, while also being general manager of the team and the offensive line coach. So you think he was a little taxed in and over his head? Certainly was. And who was it? Billy Yates was his assistant line coach and he ended up having to take the line over mid-season because Matt Patricia was in over his head and the offensive was a mess and Mack Jones was pouting and oh my God, what an absolute disaster. And somehow still they finished eight and nine and should have made the playoffs last year. They bring an Adrian Klem. He's unhappy. Billy O'Brien's unhappy. Mack Jones is getting worse and regressing further than we could have imagined. Dysfunction was the new normal at Gillette Stadium and all throughout the Patriots. Klem gets health issues halfway through the season. They haven't even had a good line coach in the last couple of years, let alone the talent. Wait a minute. You just described how last season ended. You didn't describe how last season began. Last season was supposed to be better. They hated, they handed Adrian Klem more than a million dollars or whatever to be their online coach. Always. He's perfect. He has ties to Dante Scarneca. He's played in the system. He's coached in college. He's coached. Who did he coach? Moffee at the college level. He's coached some of the young guy like it was on. He's going to be working under Bill O'Brien who has been there, done that here everywhere. Like it was nothing but optimism till the wheels fell off. I am less optimistic about this year's pre-season look at the offensive line than I was a year ago. I had more optimism about the line a year ago and that's me as a Trent Brown hater. I wanted to cut Trent Brown. Vincent checks in again. It was both. He's trying to convince himself. He's trying to believe it too. I was more optimistic about the line even not liking Trent Brown a year ago than I am this year. I think this is a bad situation that could be worse than we even think it could be with Okora for who is the hand-picked Elliot Wolf. He's going to be our left tackle as he told us before the draft. He's been the left tackle in OTAs and mini camp. He lost his right tackle job in Pittsburgh a year ago. He's not a left tackle by Trent. They've had money to spend all off season. They continue to have money. Now we've got several people in our chat that are watching live via Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc. As we broadcast across the 50GFI and WEEI socials recording the latest six rings and football things. What if Wednesday episode Mark Desolio says trade Judon for picks? Maybe a contender will want him. Then maybe try to get David Bakhtiari. Vlone Kings says their idea is a quick trade idea. Again Matt Judon for Jack Conklin and a fourth round pick may as well get rid of him if we aren't planning to resign him. Would you trade Andy? If you could for sure lock up the left tackle position for at least the year, if not maybe two years, which is what we'd been hoping they would do. That's why we wanted them to pursue jets, jets, jets, left tackle play with the Cowboys. What's a tyrant Smith? Thank you. It's going to be nice. I mentioned his name. Congratulations to him and Bailey Zappi. I'm getting married recently. Good job guys. What do those two guys have in common? Neither will be on the Patriots this year. I was going to say not much sex arguing over dinner. Who knows? Come on. Yeah, that's the reason it wasn't that Tyran Smith was ultimately the answer, but I just wanted to semi-dependable or at least quality veteran to step in, and I know Tyran Smith is Mr. Tuna Games, which is someone all down the fort and then teach at rookie how to play the position. And instead now we've got a converted right tackle that was deposed of his job a year and a half ago in Pittsburgh, taking over left tackle for the Pats. I mean, all the weaponizing of the offense, the pick of Drake May, everything that Elliot Wolf has done in that very calm, cool medical demeanor this offseason could come undone if the line is a mess. You're a win. The line is a mess. You keep saying, if I know this is what if Wednesday, we might need to change it to what happens when Wednesday? What happens Wednesday? Yes. I just, there is, the desperation is clear in like the options, not conklin necessarily, but the fact that Tyran Smith, who's been nothing but injured, people want to pay him. And I was sort of in that boat. You had desperation. You kind of have to go for it. Bakhtiari, I believe, has played 13 games combined in the last three years, missing most of two of those three seasons after being healthy early in his career. We talked about it yesterday. I'm not a big believer. You get healthier and more durable and accountable and available as your career goes on when you start to trend in that direction. But that desperation, that's the desperation, like you have nothing. And you don't even really have long shots. I mean, maybe one of these guys will step up. If a Corifor is not the guy, their hand chosen guy, we've already seen Caden Wallace be moved to right tackle where he played in college. So I'm not sure they still believe he can be a left tackle, which is the narrative they tried to sell us on after the draft. Calvin Anderson, dealt with the illness. I don't know his career trajectory for even forgetting the illness. I mean, the guy seems like a borderline starter competitor. Like I'm not even sure if he seems like a backup. I don't I don't even know if he's going to be as good as half of the backup tackles the Patriots have had the last plus years, like Vadarian. I'm going to be nice and call him low and not add a B to his last name because he's he's not been good. He was super ungood last year. Super ungood is time. I mean, like he glowed. But what about our Tyrone Wheatley Jr? Is he like, did you maybe pick a name? Maybe I'd pick and I'm talking about like a lottery ticket, a scratch off ticket type name. Maybe I would pick him. And the other thing is if it were just left tackle, that'd be bad because it's the most important position. But it's not just left tackle, like the unknown of what the rest of the line will be. No disrespect. I love David Andrews. Happy birthday to him. I believe I just saw on Twitter that it's his birthday. That's great. He's enjoying some fishing and doing some things this off season. Love him. Mean it. You know, what if he gets banged up? I don't know who's playing guard. Cole Strange is hurt. That's another blown first round pick of Bella Check it looks like on the line. But but Cole Strange not playing may actually be something the Patriots line has going for them this year. Probably saves him from the fate of potential being a big name cut because I don't know if he has a long future in Foxboro. But there's other questions along the line. Like let's just say what we've seen. They had this guy, um, Leavrit, the veteran, Nick Leavrit, he's been getting reps, but then he kind of seemingly lost reps. So maybe that plan has already been derailed a little bit. There's also been this, this idea that they're just going to play their best five guys, even if they don't really fit positionally, which on the surface, I like play your best five guys, but I don't know if that leads to the best five performance in terms of zone blocking and some of the things that Alex van Pelt wants to do. So I we're fixating on left tackle as we should because that is the premier spot. That is the, um, Keystone or whatever, but the issues could go further to guard and other sports spots across the line where the other issue is the Belichick theory of sure, maybe you put your best five out there, but if they're all in the wrong position, that may not be good. Like you may have five decent athletes, three of whom are out of position who aren't really comfortable playing the position they're in. And that's not a good and the other issue is we're having this starting point. We're on what is today, July, Wednesday, July 10th, 2024. So we're having this, this question on July 10th, guys are going to get hurt. It's, it's, you know, very rare on the offensive line. You make it through without losing one or two starters along the way. Let me tell you worst case scenario. What if they lose David Andrews and Mike on went out injury? Oh, and so it could actually get worse. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It could get significantly worse. Cause I think those two guys, I feel confident will be competitive to good. If they play, no matter where they play almost, that's three other spots that are wide open. And if one or two of those guys go down, well, then Scott Peters better be not the second coming of Dante, but the second coming of God himself. All right. So let's take a look at what we think. Let's go ahead and make our predictions now for what is going to be the starting five come September 8th, 2024, one in the P out in Cincinnati out in the junk out in the nanny as we like to call it. This is grimy likes to call it. What is, what is their ballpark now? Is it sponsored? First of all, it's not a ballpark stadium. No, the, no, great American ballpark is right next to, but that's where the baseball reds play. Yes. De la Cruz. Not butter. First time all star Ellie Delacruz. Uh, so it's September 8th, one o'clock. What is the starting offensive line? This is Paul Brown stadium. Don't they still call it Paul Brown stadium? I think it actually may be and then the field might be named. It's nice. Oh, it's very nice. So it is now known as paycore stadium, P-A-Y-C-O-R, paycore, named after Jacob paycore, the inventor of the get a sandwich. That's a lie. It's paycore is like some company that handles your internal accounting. Yeah. Um, all right. So Brad zone watching live on the X platform says you have a four and wall as your tackles. So and a went to it guards David Andrews at center. I am inclined to think that that is more a lot more, more probable than not to use triggering Patriots parlance. That is more probable than not your starting offensive line. I think they want, uh, I think they really want this to work out, um, with Kate and Wallace, but that's an awful, so you, if that's the line, Andy, you have a guy who's only played like one or two snaps in the pros at left tackle. You have a rookie at right tackle. And then you're now paying Michael one of 19 million dollars not to kick out to right tackle where he's been so good two separate times in two separate seasons where they so desperately needed him out there, but you're paying him 19 million a season to go back into guard. As Brad pointed out, I do think the zone blocking transition is an issue now. To be fair, they knew they were going to be a zone blocking team when they paid and absolutely nicks right if the Celtics starting five is the best starting five in town, then Al Tatum Brown holiday and white rock solid. Thank you very much. Nick's coins. Then this that we are speaking of is the worst starting five in town. Um, but yeah, like Mike on when it was a power blocking right tackle can get by can do it. Can he be a zone blocking right tackle? And maybe that's why we already saw that transition in mini camp, him bumping into right guard and putting Wallace over at right tackle and athletic got, they think is athletic enough to play left tackle. So as an athlete at right tackle, but was he blocked from playing left tackle in college because Fashanu was just so damn good or was it because he's not fit for left tackle. I'm going to say it again. The way I said it draft night when we did this podcast, you're going to tell me who's one of my favorite follows on Instagram, by the way, I don't even know, um, what his name is, but the you're going to tell me guy that he's been doing things wrong for 40 years and he watches these videos of like life hacks, you're going to tell me that the NFL has about 13 good left tackles in the entire league, 32 cities and Penn state had two left tackles on its collegiate roster. No, I don't, I don't buy that. I believe he's a right tackle because he's a right tackle. And the other guy was a left tackle, um, had you just drafted Michael penics, then you could have kept Mike on when it would right tackle, which would have been the new left tackle and then everything would have been just fine and dandy, but that didn't work out. Did it? And then you'd have a bad quarterback in no future. At least we have a good quarterback in a future as we started, okay, you can see Brian Dayball just like licking his chops like a dog looking for the bowl to be dropped on the floor or me before a good burger and a cold beer, Andy, but my God, you're not going to get a chance to say Drake may is going to have to showcase not just his ability to process information and work, you know, adorably hand in hand with a head coach, but rather he's going to have to showcase his feet, his speed and his improvisational ability. If this line is once again, uh, the Andy Hart copyright, 2024 house of cards that you called it years ago, um, the, the other thing is this, the what if aspect of this? What if the offensive line is as bad or worse than we think it's going to be? Well, then I will guarantee you in the top 33 picks of next year's draft, the Patriots will select a left tackle and a wide receiver in some order, whether they get the left tackle at number one overall. Actually they'll probably trade down because some team will want a quarterback, but you get the point. They're going to have one, which, which I'm fine with. And by the way, just as, as a note, uh, currently taking a look at the top 10 free agents available as of early July, 2024, actually, Andy, a number of issues on the New England Patriots could potentially be addressed with the money that they have left, uh, as to how the free agent market goes. David Bakhtiari, offensive tackle. Like you said, only 13 games from 2021 to 2023 underwent knee surgery last October may not be the all-pro he was before, does have a systemic familiarity with how Elliott Wolf does things. Jamal Adams, F that guy. He sucks. Connor Williams. He's a center. Steph Gilmore, cornerback. If they're looking for a veteran cornerback, he maybe wants to play free safety Emmanuel Ogba. He's actually pretty good. Ryan Tannehill. Yeesh. Uh, Michael Thomas. Camp guard. Mike. Well, all right. Slant King, Justin Simmons, it's safety, still available. That's a surprise. Adore Jackson, a cornerback and Karl Lawson, Ed Drusher. Um, yeah, there's there, so they're going to go get a couple in camp. If this goes poorly, which it probably will on the left side, they will probably be doing what they did last year, who was it last year was Wheatley and somebody else that they acquired. They traded for that. No, they quickly saw how bad it was and as my God, I've even actually already forgotten his name. I think it was so bad. They went and got Vadarian low and then they got Tyrone Wheatley Junior like within a couple days of each other and they will do that right. Riley reef was not healthy. That was an absolute mess. They will do that again and it will also not solidify really anything because why, why, why, why, why it was all all it's because I don't know if you've noticed. If you want good offensive lineman, you either take them in the top half of the first round or you hand them somewhere in the range of 60 to $100 million, right? Like it's become a massive premium invested position. And we talked about this, you know, if you didn't fill it in the draft, you didn't fill it in free age. Like there was, you only had so many assets now, they could have spent more in free agency. They chose not to overpay. I think that's sort of a nod to this is a multi year rebuild as they see it. And that that left tackle could come early in the draft next year, a bangles like double dip here where maybe it's not Jamar Chase that makes Joe Barrow great and Drake may, maybe doesn't get the elite receiver, maybe he gets the elite offensive lineman. But I think they are looking at this as a multi year restocking of the cupboard with elite talent and not. And overpaying a premium for a offensive lineman would have just sort of been a long term regrettable move. All right, I'll put this on the scroll right here on screen. This comes from sharp football. Here are your best remaining available free agents at left tackle. If only the thing that we pay money for would actually work. Your best remaining left tackle free agents, Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, DJ Humphries, Jason Peters, Charles Leno, Billy Turner, Cameron, urban, Dwayne Brown, Riley reef and Connor McDermott. Yeah, a couple of those are former Patriots. I was going to say familiar much. There's not a lot that excites me there, obviously. I just who was the one that was who was it? Was it Jonah Williams? That was the guy that was available from the vengals, right? Jonah Williams was one of them. And who was chosen? Where is he? There was another. Finan. You could have been. He went to the Arizona Cardinals, a team that has invested consistently, by the way, in their offensive line. They've actually had quality line play. Maybe one of the reasons why Kyler Murray, though he is, you know, an absolute water bug who moves like he's got a joystick controlling him when he's on the field. But they've invested heavily in their line, helped out last year, probably going to help him out this year. Another team that's invested heavily in their line, a team that people look toward Andy maybe as a beacon of hope or a goal for the New England Patriots, 2024, the Houston Texans. Ah, we got a rookie quarterback. Ah, we got a rookie defensive minded head coach. Yeah, you know what the Houston Texans had going into last season, a really good offensive line. Yes. And you don't. And that's the difference or one of the differences in the people that hope you have the CJ Stroud plan. But again, I'm more on the Joe Barrow plan, which, yes, don't remind me, it involves a drink meeting. I don't want the injury. No, yes. At some point. Please. I mean, I agree with Pete, the animal Austin. If you said you have to go that route, like the sky is falling, Donovan Smith is the guy that I would take and just say he can play the position. I will see what level I get out of him. The injuries to Bakhtiari, I don't, I don't see that being worth it as Mark DiZoglio says. Yeah, he says, he says that, you know, the word is that Bakhtiari, yes, veteran presence wants to play with a contender. He's probably sitting out rehabbing, trying to stay in shape as well. Look, he's great on a Jumbo Tron loves to chug beers. I'm surprised the Jets didn't take a chance on him as opposed to Tyran Smith, since Tyran Smith hasn't played more than 13 games and Lord knows how long in a professional NFL season. Since Bakhtiari and Rogers get along so well, but I guess there's only so many former packers you can bring in to say the appetite of Captain Iowaska down in New Jersey. So rank for me. So we do a lot of radio more in the fall. You know, once the red Sox are done, although red Sox looking like they're trying to extend their season a little bit into our rich keep show weeks, fine by me. Will we be spending more time in November and December, okay, talking about the offensive line or the quarterback? We will spend more time. I think we'll spend more time talking about the quarterback. We will be we will be banging the drum. We will be yeah, Nick's coins, by the way, is yeah, see, we got a lot of people saying in the chat. They think Bakhtiari is totally done. Yeah, he would probably have a job here. I think he's healthy right now folks remember, like remember, okay, Nick's coins actually does instead of just saying let's go socks or sell this, we'll be talking about the quarterback. I agree because it'll either be we will be assessing the play of Drake May now that the rookie has usurped Jacobi for said and taken over as QB one of the NEP or we will be banging the drum like, come on, you can clearly see we need more athleticism out there. The kids going to have to learn trial by fire style, put them in blah, blah, blah. As opposed to come on, Wolf, we told you all off season, we needed a better left tackle. We needed a proven commodity. You are doing Alex van Pelt, Gerard Mayo and Drake May slash Jacobi presented to service with this piss poor offensive line. I think we'll be talking more quarterback at that point though, offensive line could be a backup topic. I think we're going to be talking a lot of offensive line. I think it's going to piss a lot of people off because there's going to be some stragglers of the Mack Jones club that are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. So they suck and now it's the line's fault. How come it wasn't the line's fault for Mack? And I think you're going to because I think a lot of people are going to give Drake May the benefit of the doubt they want. They still like the idea of him. He was the number three overall pick. So I think I think I think it's going to derail the season. I do. I think it's one of the fatal flaws of this team is the on the record two weeks before camp starts. And has been derailed. It is it is off the tracks. It is just laying in smoke and wreckage on the side of the forest. I told you that I'm going to pick first and 33rd. Oh my God. It's off. Yeah. See Pete, the animal Austin, he's a regular here at the old six rings party. I'm a former lineman. I'll tell you, the game is one in the trenches. You're not wrong, Pete. You ain't impression John Hannah can sit in a bar and talk about a bunch of hogs that just, you know, make, make bottles of cornitas between their fingers. I think he's not wrong. We're going to start draft talk again in November. And we're going to be talking about who are the best left tackles in college football. Is there a tackle worthy of a top five pick in college football? All right. It is my duty and or job, if you will, and I'm supposed to do it if I'm here to ask this question then. What if how long we go for is. But if a core for is actually decent, I mean, I mean, I mean, there's a chance. I'm telling you, there's a chance we can't just, we can't just live in all negativity when I just kind of. And it's awesome. And it's awesome. And we can talk about, hopefully, Drake May and Ramundri Stevenson and Alex van Pelt and assess other areas of the offense, the development, the scheme, and still say, Okora or we love you mean it, but we're still looking for a long term left tackle. We'll still draft one. But no, I think it would be a coup, a massive positive for this team because it would allow us to then put our attention elsewhere. They'll be more competitive. They'll be, you know, we can think about other things because I do think like when you say fatal flaw, it's like, you know, you watch those engineering shows and an entire building or an entire machine falls apart because of one little, you know, not to, you know, the classic examples at least. One little ring. Yeah. Yeah. That cost lives and like change the space program forever, the O-ring on the course of a lot of American history. Yeah. Right. So the O-ring on this team is the left tackle spot. Hold on a second, Nick's coins. We are not going to be talking about Tom Brady and his commentary. No one can be worse. We'll be talking about Tom Brady in a positive life. Tom Brady's going to be great. We'll talk about his statue. That's the only time I'm talking about Tom Brady. Otherwise, go F himself. Wow. Jeez. What? See, yeah. I don't know if you should take 10 day vacations because there's two, like there's two, you don't, you don't express, you don't expel all of the, yeah, you should take shorter vacations so that way you can like maintain the muscle or like, or the habit and ritual because you come back and there's just too much like Andy Hart at once, like slow roll that action. That's kind of true. It's kind of like, remember when you asked Dante about me and he was like, he's always ready to pop off about somebody or I forgot how I did exactly. When you, when you kind of hold that in for 10 days, it's just got to go. Oh, great. Thanks a lot. Now they agree with you. Jeez. Let's go. I need too many of these people. This is like, this is like the other night when I was at dinner and there was one wasp that I swatted at and then he brought back 50 friends and we had to finish dinner inside and I've had a swollen ear and what do you have against Protestants? I see where you went with that one. Yes. Son of a. All right. So anyway, there we are. This is the latest what if Wednesday here on six rings and football things. I think we can all agree that the way this season goes. Sure, you could say it's how Gerard Mayo operates as head coach. Is he ready enough to the task? I think he'll be fine. It's it kind of all almost in a lot of ways may not entirely be in his hands because they're going to put a lot of responsibility on the shoulders of Alex Van Pelt and a lot of show of responsibility in the shoulders of Demarcus Covington and Scott Peters as well, who as we've detailed today has his work cut out for him. All of the assistance, all of the coaches, all the coordinators, I think they'll be mostly just fine. Drake May, we have a lot of faith in him. Once he gets the job as well, we would like to see him sooner than later, but we don't want to get him busted up, destroyed or broken, which is what could happen if the line is an issue. Maybe a core for works out, maybe so and Moffey take a second year leap. Maybe Layden Wallace, excuse me, no, it's it's Caden Wallace, Layden Robinson. Yeah. We haven't even talked about him at all, like early fourth round pick. He's a big dude. Looks like he's got a nasty streak about him. Any shot he actually makes a positive impact. What if he gets his ass in there? Next thing you know, you got guys like him and you got so I would I would love I would love to see the biggest, baddest line possible. I don't rule him out as a starter. There's a couple issues. He is a big powerful guy and I would question again on when to win him at guard, you know, would you be too big, too heavy footed, whatever. But I know Jim Nagy talked about they drafted him. The draft pick they used on him says they see him as an early career starter like should start relatively. Top of the fourth. Yeah. Top of the fourth wreck. You already had two 350 pound guards from last year. Why'd you go get another one? They identified that's that's a wolf guy. I think there's a chance he plays sooner rather than later. I do. So I would yes, he's definitely worthy of being added to this discussion, but on the interior. Okay. So there's there's one of there's one of those like football guys to keep your eye on in the trenches is camp starts to be Johnson everybody likes a big Johnson. Well, again, like you can't cancel something that is actually just recorded of our own volition and distributed on our timeline and frame like we're not currently on the air. There was no worry about safe harbor or FCC. Yeah, just always like is what it is. That's not my bed. Oh, Brad, someone must have followed you from Patriots unfiltered. Hey, Andy, is David Andrews still playing at a high school level? Wow. No, at a high level. You added school. Wow. Freudian slipped by Fitzy. Hi. Whoops. My bad. Wow. That tells you what Fitzy thinks. Fitzy thinks Andrew sucks now. All right. He just said it. Let's grab that. Let's go ahead and scrub that. A Fitzy and a slip there. The true honesty came out. The fan boy went away. I love David Andrews started getting real. I got a host of party with him at vitamin C coming up sometime soon. Oh, that's going to be awkward when you say he plays like a high schooler. Okay. Once again, is Andrew still playing at a high level? Geez, there are. See what it was? You know what it was? I wanted to. I was so on board the whole like, Oh, here's Andy you people and you people out there. And in fact, it actually was that he's playing at a high level. Yes, I feel like he's in his 30s and has to be concerned. Absolutely. And also he's taken a bunch of it like from the lungs to a lot of caution. Yes. I think he's not at it. He's not at his heights anymore. He's not at his highest level for this line. Is he still pretty good? Yeah. You know, comparing him to the rest of the options throughout the five man unit. But he's not what he was at his peak. No. Yeah. You wrap this up. I get to get an oil changed. We are. We're okay. So he is still grumpy. I took a vacation. That's Andy Hart. And of course right here, there we go. Adjust that for everyone. I need more sleep. I am Nick Fitzy Stevens. Thank you very much for tuning into the latest six rings and football things. It's been a what if Wednesday? What if the offensive line is actually good? What if the offensive line is a problem? Which way are you guys going with this? We'll see which way the lot there are one thing I'll say there are options galore. They do have options galore. How good those options are Andy at left tackle right tackle the guard and center spots. We will soon see Brad. Thank you very much. We appreciate you tuning in. We appreciate you, Pete the animal Austin and everyone who has made six rings and football things a regular part of their Patriots programming in season off season and beyond. We'll be here for you whenever we get a chance and yes, Nick's coins, we will check out your channel. What do you mean? I don't know. I don't want to know. I'd rather actually see Pennywise the clown than perhaps the it that you may be showing off on your channel for heart for Terp for Fitzy and everyone involved in this mess. This has been the latest six rings and football things brought to you by W E I Odyssey and 24 hundred sports. Andy and I will be with you Thursday, July 11th from 2 to 6 p.m. with Christian Arcan on the afternoon program on W E E I as well as Saturday from 12 to 3 in the peak. Take care everybody. Good day. God bless. Patriots offensive line and as always go pets.
Andy "Jumbo" Hart is back to join 6 Rings podcast partner Nick "Fitzy" Stevens for another "What If Wednesday" episode. Today, we shift back to the present day to examine a unit on the team that could determine the outcome of the entire season, wondering, "What if the line is more offensive than imagined?" Both sides of how things could turn out for the O-line will be discussed with camp just two weeks out.
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