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April 25, 2024, when the New England Patriots are on the clock at the 2024 NFL Draft, they select, out of the University of North Carolina, Drake May quarterback to be the new Hope and Hype under center, hopefully for years to come in Foxboro for your New England Patriots. Drake May joins veteran Jacobi Brissette back on a one-year eight million dollar deal, having previously signed just a few weeks prior, as well as incumbent veteran third-year quarterback Bailey Zappie out of Western Kentucky, who started the final six games of the 2023 campaign and six-round Cannon Arm Joe Milton out of the University of Tennessee. All signs point to Jacobi Brissette being the starter for how many games? Well, that's up for debate and we'll figure out as camp in the season progresses, but this is Drake May's job, possibly in the now and certainly for the long-term and future. However, today, on another episode of What If Wednesday here on Six Rings and Football Things with your old pals, Nick Bitsy Stevens and Andy Jumbo Hart, we ask you this question. And if ever there was a time to play radio, the time to play radio, and have fun with havoc and hypotheticals, it's now. What if Bailey Zappie actually ends up the best quarterback coming out of 2024 Patriots training camp? Now, I know this seems far-fetched because at times Bailey Zappie has looked like the best quarterback on the roster. More often than not, it's been Jacobi Brissette, although at times as Andy Hart can attest, it's actually been Drake May as well. A recent story in the athletic, which we discussed yesterday on our podcast, said that Jacobi Brissette is the starter by default and it would take a spectacular camp for Drake May to unseat him. And yet Andy, there's that plucky little fella who also was in attendance at Tom Brady Night. I saw him there, T-shirt and jeans, beverage in hand, taking in all the goatly celebrations. Bailey Zappie has not been dismissed, he has not been traded, he has not been released or relegated, he's still on the roster. Possibly just to be a live camp arm, possibly just for any veteran savvy he could pass along to Drake May, although it seems like the kids got plenty of pluck and moxie of his own. So what if by any chance strange chance they go into camp and Bailey Zappie looks like the best quarterback? Hey, New England Patriots. What do you do? So, first of all, I want to say I think there's less than 1% chance of this happening. So you're telling me there's a chance? You've got to leave it open. As long as he's on the roster, we've seen crazier things in sports. You know, we didn't see Zappie fever and Zappie mania coming and that arrived and it disrupted the whole season and Mack Jones career and maybe mental stability for all I know. There was a lot that went into that point. Maybe that's when the that maybe that's when Zappie fever could very well be in the 30 for 30 to come years from now or the Mack Jones football life that'll never happen. It may have been Zappie fever, the parents leaving the stadium on that infamous Monday night. Wow fans chanting. It's almost like you ever go to the doctor and I've had this experience and he's like, so you got bit by a tick, huh? And you're like, excuse me? I got bit by a what? When did I get bit by a tick? And he's like, I'm just telling you your blood work says you've been bit by a tick. It's almost like Zappie bit Mack Jones, but he didn't catch something from the bite until later. And then it ruined his career and he was sick as a dog. And people are like, yeah, that it's right when Zappie took over that really ended your tenure here. But let's just pretend it's what we do here on what if Wednesday? So Bailey Zappie has played in NFL games over the course of two seasons. He's one NFL games. He's played well. He's also played poorly, which I say is just basically a younger version of Jacoby Brissette. They're both guys who are mid round picks who are thrust into the Patriots spotlight as rookies who, you know, have had some success, have had some failures that they kind of have similar career trajectories. And I think Bailey Zappie will probably get another chance somewhere. But they're not all that different. And we should he is the incumbent, you know, everybody else here is new and I know the offense is new. So that probably benefits Jacob Brissette. But Bailey Zappie has been there done that in this building most recently at Gillette Stadium. I don't think anybody in the world wants to see it personally, you know, other than maybe the family in Zappie fans don't want to see it. May Brissette don't want to see it. Mayo Elliott Wolf don't want to see it like what the F I signed a guy for eight million dollars. I drafted a guy third overall and this guy's the best quarterback on the team in July and August. So I think it's a problem and updating a discussion we had yesterday on the podcast, which you're not supposed to do. Pretend I didn't say yesterday on a recent six rings podcast updated. Well, somebody I would say that's in the know who I was in discussions with didn't rule out the home opener for Drake May's debut. And I said, oh, oh, oh, oh. But they were like, yeah, I think whenever he starts, it'll be at home. There will be a PR buzz to it. There will be a, you know, bumping tickets and whatever you want to call it. They he also enjoyed my theory of the post-9ers game that return home against the dolphins as a possibility relatively early in the season. I think that's week five coming back to Gillette. That would be six and a half propositional as to when Drake may start. So take the under is what I was told. I was sort of indicated to take the under. But whatever that aside, Bailey Zappie would be a problem. And that's why, you know, there was even member was a Burt Breer who wrote a Mayo piece kind of indicating they might even pair it down to three quarterbacks by training camp. And if so, everybody assumed I wrote the column like Drake May is the odd man. I mean, Bailey Zappie is the odd man out. Like everybody kind of knows it. Everybody got out. Oh, God. No, no, Drake may not the odd man out. Drake may the future, the phenom, the cock sure, whatever you want to call it. He is the great one. Hopefully fingers crossed, toes crossed, wherever I can cross. But if you're building a culture, which is what your odd Mayo is, right? He's building his culture, his way of doing business. I've heard we've taken down silos and we're taking a collaborative approach. That's what I've been told. Yeah. So now the corn is just laying in a pile. There's no silo to put the corn in. It's just laying in a pile. Why don't we have the corn? Why is all the grain just in a huge pot? It's got flies. People are just helping themselves. It's going to get ruddy. It's going to get ruined. It's a terrible idea. You need silos in some form. But if Bailey Zappy is, if we're all writing it, July 23rd, 24th, August 1st, like preseason, if Bailey Zappy, even the blind and the deaf, no, he's the best quarterback on the Patriots roster in July and August, don't you have to start him? Can you not start him? Like, how do you defy logic? How do you defy competition? Especially if the other option is Jacobi Bursett. Who cares which journeyman starts? And I know technically Zappy's not a journeyman. He hasn't left yet, although little known fact, journeyman, the way we use it, is not proper. It actually tells your level of skill in the trades and not that you bumped around to a bunch of teams. We've kind of changed that over the years. But if you're planning on starting Jacobi Bursett and Alex Van Pelt, Elliot Wolf, everybody sets a starter. And Bailey Zappy is the best coach. Is that me freezing? Somebody frozen. That was you freezing, yes. I think basically, I think that was such a pivotal moment. We just wanted to freeze it in time for a minute to allow the audience to ponder the point you were making. You have to start Bailey Zappy. That's how you ponder it, right? You have to start him. It's not that you do. Terrible precedent if you don't. Terrible precedent. I mean, if everybody that goes to camp from the fans to the media, and of course, all team personnel alike, and they're as heavily invested in the success of Drake May as anyone, especially and/or including the people that pay to sit their asses in the seats and buy the $8.40, 16 ounce beers at the stadium, I ask. And if it's clear as day, if it's clear as a bell, if you can see straight through all the piled up corn out of the silos, that Bailey Zappy is the best quarterback on the field in the last week of July and all throughout August. And he'll have two home exhibition games and one road exhibition game to prove that he is. Then why in the world would you feel the need to rush Drake May to pasture or start Jacobi Versett just because you paid him $8 million? It could be an $8 million mentorship of Drake May. It could just be an $8 million camp. You had so much money. And again, it's not our money, technically. Although again, we're the ones who pay for those $8.40, 16 ounce beers and make that money for the craft family and the knowing of Patriots. If it's clear as day that there is one quarterback that has head and shoulders above the other ones, why would you do? Do somebody a solid or a favor and do your team a disservice and put anyone who isn't the best quarterback out there to try to win games? Now, look, we have seen Bailey Zappy at his best in games like against Cleveland and Alex van Peltz-Browns and Jacobi Versett no less in 2022. A game that led me to write a column that the 2022 Patriots draft class was panning out wonderfully, cut to a few weeks later. And there's Andy Hart shoving it in my face like a soiled rug at the house, and I was a bad dog. 2023, Bailey Zappy is forced to come into multiple games. Mac Jones was bench, not once, not twice, not thrice, but four, four times on the season, possibly the most benchings the single starting quarterback has ever received in the NFL, finally leading Bailey Zappy to start. And at times, he's actually pretty good. Now, there were games where he was terrible. Of course, he had no offensive weapons around him, the Chargers game, the final game against the Jets in the snow, farewell Belichick. But as Jacobi Versett played a half a football in the last couple of years, as good as that first half against the Steelers back in December of 2023, where he threw three touchdown passes, Zappy also wasn't that bad against the Broncos as well on Christmas Eve. Hell, Drake may should probably go up to Bailey Zappy and say, "Hey, bro, I heard that because of the way you played at times in 2023. That's the reason why I'm here. Thank you very much." First of all, Jacobi Versett, the whole, I don't know, my guess is no, I haven't watched a lot of Jacobi Versett in recent years. In fact, pretty much stopped. Actually, I watched a little when he was still on my Colts, and that was pretty much the end of my Jacobi Versett watching era of my life. And hopefully it'll be short again, no disrespect to him, but I don't really have much desire to spin my wheels as an observer and watch him start games and play too much. Zappy looked pretty damn good versus the pack too. I will also tell you, Zappy has looked putrid this summer. I don't think he's played very well this summer. I think the realization of his lot in life that he is just kind of keeping a seat warm, holding a ramp arm, camp body. Maybe they're waiting to see if they can trade him, which that's another aspect of this. You could trade him. You could say, listen, we invested in Drake May to be the future. We know that Bailey Zappy is not the future, and if we can get a fifth round pick for him and recoup some asset that we can then turn into something else down the road, you can make that argument coming off of what we're talking about, that he had a great July and August. You could make that argument sell high because a year ago, it's the best interest though, if I may jump in. So potentially, as opposed to most people that are thinking, I want to see Joe Milton's arm. I want to see Drake May starting. Hey, we spent all this money on Percet. This should be the trio. This should be the triumvirate. Yes, I understand that, but wouldn't it then be in the Patriots best interest to showcase Bailey Zappy showing up and showing out this summer? Because quarterback, is that such a premium in the NFL, 65, 66 starters last season? To have a team say, you know what, why wouldn't we put a six rounder out there in this kid? Because he's shown that he can actually play quarterback at a reasonably competent professional level. Yeah. Now, I don't think so he was cut last year and nobody had any interest, right? There was a few teams that wandered him on the practice squad, but nobody was like, I'm going to claim Bailey Zappy because he's a good quarterback who's played in the league. Right. So there's limited interest. And I would argue, he's undersized, he's under armed, he does not have a strong arm. And a lot of people love that, you know, aspect of the quarterback game these days, but I do want to flip it around. And this is stupid. I, you know, I always love to start points and arguments with this is stupid. It lets people know what's coming up. No, there's, but then see, the thing is though, like you're setting the bar so low that there's nowhere to go but up if it's actually an intelligent or salient point. And by the way, I should point out also that you heard here first on this particular podcast, where people get most of their sources and takes that they then snake from us and mutate into their own somewhere else. I told you, I had heard actually down here on this very Cape Cod that Bill O'Brien was not in any way shape or form impressed by or interested in coordinating for Bailey Zappy last summer well before the season got underway. I think the quote was, I have no idea what the F people see in this guy. Yeah, I agree with Bill O'Brien. And I feel bad because, you know, he's again, the like Peter principle you ascend to a level upon what you fail. Like you put up great numbers in college and one of those wide open offenses at Western Kentucky or whatever the help you taught is a W can talk, bro. That's awesome. Live off that. Go back to Western Kentucky, work at a car dealership, sell car shake hands, kiss babies and be like a local phenom. That's awesome. You're not an NFL quarterback. I don't believe Bailey Zappy is an NFL quarterback. I think we've seen that exposed at times, you know, as much as we can list the good games, we can list the bad throws, the bad games, the mistakes he made. Somebody's backing up outside. I don't know if you can hear that. They're telling me your point stupid. I love L's in your driveway for what you're about to say. Right. But this is stupid. Remember 2001. There was a hundred million dollar quarterback. There was an expensive backup quarterback. And then there was this weak armed, late round quarterback who worked really hard and son of a bitch, he was the best guy in training camp, right? And he moved up the depth chart to the two slot and then an injury happened and then Tom Brady happened and we retired number 12 shortly thereafter. I will allow this only because I could see Jacobi Versett being the giraffe on stilts that was Drew Gludso at the time. And maybe getting us start the seed. Like certainly Bailey Zappy's footnote in Patriots history has already been written mostly. Right now he is again just a and an able-minded undersized adequate arms placeholder. Drake May will never be usurped by or supplanted by Bailey Zappy. That said, I could see Jacobi Versett. Now look, he's more fleet of foot in a tad more mobile, if you will, than Bludso was at that particular time in his Patriots tenure. But if, you know, listen, just because Versett's familiar with the offense, just because Jacobi Versett has worked with Alex Van Pelt before and is presumed to be the starter, it doesn't mean that it's all just going to fall. All the pieces will fall in place for him as well. Maybe Zappy will have a good camp. Maybe Bailey Zappy needs that, you know, we've been discussing what's going on over this five-week interim between the end of mandatory minicamp in June and the start of proper training camp like July 24th, I believe it is when the public is first allowed in. What's going on during that time? Maybe Bailey Zappy is using that time as a veteran to get his body and his arm and his mind right and say, "Look, obviously our future is not in Foxborough. But if we go in there and we kick ass with tanker gas and do the absolute best we can, we could land Team Zappy a spot somewhere as a backup on a team where he may get legitimate reps." Like, I don't know. Look, who does Seattle have? Freakin' Geno Smith and is Drew Locke still there? No. Oh, he left, right? Yeah. I'm trying to think who their backup is. I think they drafted somebody. I'll find out. Thank God, I have what's known as a computer in front of me with this magical thing called the internet, which... So while you do that, let me... There are other places. Maybe Freakin' what's his face. Maybe Sean Payton wants six quarterbacks that are undersized on his roster. You never have enough quarterbacks. I always say, you don't want one quarterback, you want six of them. That's the perfect way to build a corporation. Oh, my apologies. They have former Cleveland Brown and XFL star PJ Walker is their third-stringer. They traded for Sam Howell, who, if I were the New England Patriots, I would have as well because Sam Howell and Drake may supposedly are super tight and Sam Howell got done dirty by lots of dysfunction in Washington and also poor line play, no Tevene, New England Patriots. Okay, so let's break this down. Bailey Zappi is the best quarterback on the field. Everybody agrees. Fans, reporters, so we get to the end of September. Could you not, as you said, just sort of flip-flop Brissette and Zappi. You were planning on starting Brissette for one week, two weeks, four weeks, whatever the plan sort of loosely in your head was. We have this veteran journeyman, we're going to start and then it's going to go to Drake May when he's kind of ready. Couldn't you just start Bailey Zappi for those games? And Brissette is now your backup. And then if he falls on his face, it makes an easier transition to the far more talented, bigger, more athletic, bigger-armed quarterback you have in Drake May. You can even cut Bailey Zappi in week three, week four, when you go, yeah, we gave you your shot. Remember, Sudfeld, Zach Sudfeld, who was the phenom of the summer, and then he sucked when he hit regular season action and you cut him and he was gone. By week three, I want to say he was gone. Again, another one of those, and how many joining the ranks of Brian Timbs and so many other camp heroes that when they got on the field was like, yeah, not good. Couldn't you just do that? And therefore, you gave Zappi the opportunity that he earned in the summer and then you quickly said, but we're a what have you done for me lately organization. Now, you need to prove it each week. He proved he wasn't good enough to play. You cut him, you move on. Wouldn't that be simple? Or the other option here is, what if what if Zappi, well, I guess this isn't real. I mean, Zappi has stunk in the summer. I'll go back to that. He has been bad. He has been, he doesn't measure up physically, stature wise. I think he's become frustrated with his lot in life. He's resigned to the fact that nobody wants me here. I'm just a camp body. I'm out of here as soon as they find a reason or a time to get rid of me. So I guess the flip side of that is the trading him. I think that's the question. If you say he's really good, I think your two options are you start him over Brissette and you just slot him into that for a week or two, three, or you try to lure somebody into trading for him. And if he's as good as we're saying, if he's so good that everybody knows he's the best quarterback on the roster, maybe you can steal a six round pick out of somebody and say, long term interest to the organization, that six round pick is thank you for your services. Bailey Zappi, you're going to contribute to the future by will draft a guard in the six round next year that maybe can help Drake May down the road. So I think those are the two outcomes if this happens. Now, I do want to rewind real quick. I don't think there's a shot in hell this happening. I think there's a better shot in hell that he's sulky, McSulk, Sulk, and he's cut halfway through the first week of camp. Jeff Stenberg watching live now on YouTube, Bailey Zappi, more likely the next starter for the San Antonio Brahmas of the UFL than he is an NFL starter. While you were, while you were Foxboro filibustering there, Mr. Hart out of the South Coast, I was checking some other depth charts. Like the New Orleans Saints, their quarterback depth chart is Derek Carr and whatever is left of his arm and his God and his will and his way. Jake Hainer, Spencer Rattler and Tayson Hill. I don't know. You know, you never know. Uh, I thought he was one's former scouts, you know, best quarterback in the draft or whatever that guy all over Twitter who loved him was. Well, there was a time when he don't forget, I can't believe he fell to the fifth round and it wasn't it mostly due to the fact that he was part of that like weird reality series and people couldn't shake the images of him being like a jackass is kind of ridiculous. Yeah, there was like six years ago, five years ago, whatever it is, like, I mean, first of all, any of us who were the center of a reality show in our teen years probably would not look great would probably have that held against us. One of my favorites, a regular participant, whenever we do six rings and football things live across the W E E I and 50 G F Y socials, Jordan Watson, Zappy is like Bud Light. Good when it's there and somewhat gets the job done, but it's never your first choice. It's a very. Right. He's no Miller light. He needs to know narrow. I'll tell you that no narrow. Gants it. Early Sullivan, no way Bailey Zappy cracks the Brahmas vaunted QB rotation. Hey, listen, you know, actually, like if if Bailey Zappy were to catch on with it, let's say he's released, he catches on one of the other teams, a third stringer, you're still making a couple hundred grand a year to play, you know, coach or make notes on football making more than that. The minimum is like 900 K. No way for a quarterback or for a player in the NFL. Any player in the NFL, the minimum is like 900 K. Hold on. NFL's look at this. My kids, the stats and research department right now is just going on here. Are you living in a couple hundred thousand six hundreds? When I okay this year, the minimum salary for an NFL player is are you ready? 750,000 dollars. And I think that's a first year player. He'd be a third year player. So it'll be higher than that. I ain't bad. I'll go. You know what I'll gladly do? Run reps and practice all week long stretch, talk to the assistant coaches, help out the starter and hold a clipboard and you know, wait till 11 30 to find out if I'm the emergency quarterback, the backup or I'm sitting my ass down on Sunday, especially as a quarterback because you don't have to get lit up or anything. It's not like you're the jack of all trades, you know, wedge breaker. I need you on defense, get the crap kicked out of you. It's the wedge breaker even exists anymore. Now with this new kickoff and by the way, side note, that that may have to be because just as a little footnote here for the audience, going forward, the what if Wednesdays will continue all throughout the season, all throughout the off season until we actually kick off the proper football season in September, but some will be historical deep dives like we've done previously, maybe even next week when Andy's out, we'll do another historical one with my friends from the Untold Patriots stories podcast. But sometimes that sounded very specific for a maybe. Okay, there's very it's a super specific definitive maybe, which is exactly the what's at the core and the heart of this podcast. But sometimes it'll also just be like, you know, we're up we're open to suggestions as well, like, what if the new kickoff rule works? What do you do? Because they've already got that, hasn't the UFL actually gone away from their own kickoff rule, which the NFL has now adopted for this coming season? Is this where I let you know, I don't believe I watched a single down of the UFL this year? You know, the crazy thing is I love the XFL and then this year just sort of came on and the promotion was so minimal that I didn't watch very much at all. So I'm talking in the booth. He looked nice. Yeah, no, I have no idea what they're using for a kickoff rule in UFL, just going to be back to the NFL kickoff rule. So, oh, so that would be kind of funny. I actually think it's going to be tremendously chaotic and fun. And I'm guessing they're not going to stick with it because maybe it's seen as too gimmicky and big play-ish. And I don't know, but we'll see, because there's already talk of some people not even utilizing it, just taking the fair catch and taking the ball in the 30 yard line. So, okay, so right now, yeah, that sure. And there's also been talk about who was it who was saying like, oh, it was the, wasn't it the Kansas City Chiefs special teams coordinator who said, I may not even have Harrison Butker out there on kick-offs, because I want to use somebody that. He'll be in the kitchen making dinner. I'm, I'm fascinated first time that guy misses a kick this season. And he's a damn good kicker and doesn't miss very often. First time that guy misses a kick this season, make sure you head over to Twitter.com. It should be a rip. Andy, I'm checking your favorite website, POOF, Pro Football Focus, PFF.com, ranking all 32 NFL quarterbacks in anticipation of the 2022 season. Where does POOF have the New England Patriots two headed monster of Bursette in May ranked? 30 second? 26th. Okay, ahead of you. I was swayed there by, I know Chris Simms didn't even have Drake May in his top like 40 quarterbacks or 45 quarterbacks or something. Yeah, but no, if I were doing it, I think that's probably fair. You have a journeyman proven starter in Jacobi Bursette. He is what he is. He can win. He can lose. That's pretty much how the games work, Andy. And then you have Drake May. You have a guy with a lot of talent that when he plays, you're going to be hopeful and there's going to be mistakes and there's going to be plays. So who's behind them? All right. So they are in tier six, mostly because of Drake May. It's called tier six, the next generation. Anthony Richardson, 27 movie title. Tier six, the next generation. I love the fifth book too. Yeah. Just shot. Wow. Just Sean Watson. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. He's 23rd. Good God. What a mess that guy is. 20 have Alex Van Pelt. 25th, Bryce Young, 26, Jacobi Bursette, such Drake May, 27, Jaden Daniels. Then we get to, oh, and then 28 will Levis. Then we get to tier seven, the finale, the holdovers, Daniel Jones at 29, eight, no Connell slash Garden Minchu for their age, 30th, 31st, Sam Darnold slash JJ McCarthy, and 32nd, Stiddy and Bonyx and Zach Wilson in Denver. Wow. There is the potential for some. I haven't worked blue at all in this podcast yet. There is the potential for some super shitty crew back away this year. Well, I mean, in general, and a lot of it hinges or as hinged into pawn as I like to say, the rookies, if Jaden Daniels, Drake May and Bonyx can play, that all changes because you have exciting young rookie class. If they stink and they look like Bryce Young, well, and Bryce Young, your guy, you're buying Bryce Young's cards. So I told you, I told you on our previous episode of the podcast that the card, the card buyers are all speculating on Bryce Young that he's got nowhere to go. But up also another quality comment from Jeff Sandberg watching live on YouTube, 900,000 working for the Pats and another 83 K selling the Hyundai's for Ernie Buck. That's a pretty good living he'd be making if he stuck around. Indeed. Yeah. All right. So Andy, let's wrap it on this one. This has been a far more interesting and robust playful dialogue than I had originally anticipated. Just give me a, let's put it out there. So we have a number to go to look back upon whenever this goes sideways and Bailey Zappi is cut by August 3rd. Give me a percentage chance of Bailey Zappi looking like the best quarterback and stealing a start or two for the Patriots this season. Point zero zero one. Oh, I was going to say, just go with his jersey number four, four percent chance. No, that's way too high. Way too high. So yes, point zero zero one. That's, that's what I got you. Wow. 17% you're out of your mind. Greg Donahue, 17% chance. Don't you know, 17 is a haunted number in Patriots, Jersey lore. Did he forget the decimal? Is that like point one seven? Like, oh, he's yellow well. Okay. All right. He lawled himself. Okay, very good. I say four percent chance just because I'll give him for the number of starts that he's one in the NFL. I'll go with four. You say point zero zero one. Yeah, it's not going to happen. But again, we have to consider and that's part of the fun of the argumentative nature of these what if Wednesdays and the hypotheticals of the offseason? All right, Mr. Hart will be on your radio waves two more times on this particular week. And then he'll be offered a nice little fourth of July vacation. I'll be on your waves as well. I'll be manning the ship next week on the six rings and football things podcast as we get into July, which will be the first month of the proper season with training camp beginning July 24th. And once we get on the ride, we are on it well into January, February and beyond. And hopefully this year, Andy will actually be doing podcasts about the current state of the New England Patriots and not by two weeks prior to Thanksgiving saying, all right, it's time to focus on the draft. So fingers crossed, huh? No, we'll be studying wide receivers and tackles. Oh boy. All right. Mr. Mr. They could win six or they could win zero. I'd prefer. I never said they could win six. Didn't you say there's the the. All right. That's enough either or more likely six or zero. Give me the zero. It is more probable than not to use some exponent fueled with Ted Wellesley in language. All right. For heart, this is Spitzy. Thank you wise. 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